Webbing Walk | British 58 Pattern Webbing | AATV EP142

Gadge and Anvil go for a local walk wearing their British Army Pattern 58 Webbing Sets. Anvil has an airsoft milsim load in his and Gadge has a CEFO setup.
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[@Mygg_Jeager]

According to a bit of reading I've done in the matter: Putting food and snacks in the arm and chest pockets of the Smock was an intentional act, along with a secondary survival knife, survival/space/emergency blanket, map, and compass. The idea was that if wounded, or making a hasty fighting retreat, or out of ammo, or if the kit is damaged and unusable, you could shed the kit, but still have a Smock and space blanket for heat and emergency shelter, 1000 calories in sugarry snacks, and navigation equipment to find your way back to friendly lines. When I was in the army they called this school of thought: First Line, Second Line, and Third Line Kit. The Smock doubled as your emergency last line of kit.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Survive out of your pockets, fight out of your webbing, live out of your Bergen

[@oncameramastery]

Man, 58 pattern takes me straight back to my teenage years in the Army Cadets!... until I got fed up and bought my own 95pattern! :-)

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

PLCE coming next week!

[@oncameramastery]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV great! Just don't forget to put your bungie around!

[@Limabelasun]

Kidney pouches. 1 mess tin in each. One tin has hexi & blocks, brillo, tea towel 1/2. brew kit. Tin No.2 Rations. Also boot cleaning kit/housewife/spare socks & pants. 58 Bottle on the right side Resp on left side. small first aid kit in top right smock pocket. ADMIN /COMPAS in top left smock pocket. If not using Resp pouch, add a utility/water bottle pouch with a 44 or 58 bottle. Loved the 58 webbing, heavy yes, heavier when wet , Defo. Tabs & buckles did swell. But comfy, tough, Used it through Cdts & Regs and we did A.T,.C & FIBUA in it. carry 2 58 ponchos. they do fit in the bum roll. one as shelter the other as sleep system / bivvi bag. OR lose the kidney pouches and replace with utility/water bottle pouches all round then the left & right ammo pouches. Our belt order was always checked to ensure every one carried the same weight at 35 Lbs.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Awesome thanks for the list of contents. I’d carry a different load for an airsoft game. But the principles are very similar. I might work towards a living history load over time.

[@yinka.africa]

I was sat here thinking about what we used to carry in our right kidney pouche. Took a stab in the dark and googled it thinking there is pritty no chance of finding this info out. I could not remember what was in the right. Probably because as a mechanized battalion in Germany the rations were always in back of wagon. BUT YOU NAILED IT SOCKS N ALL!

[@Cruser1068]

58 Pattern? I'm "only" 53 but when I was at school in the Cadets we were issued with 37 pattern! I guess it kind of worked with the 303 Lee Enfield's we were issued with....but most of us beg, stole or borrowed enough money to buy our own "elite" 58 pattern from the local surplus store....usually 1 item at a time over a period of many months :)

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Blimey. I quite like it to be Honest. I need to do a proper weekends play in it really. Hopefully it doesn’t rain!

[@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603]

Am 53 lol and used the 37 pattern from 13army cadets till 16 and then 58 until I left the army. Training on the 303 the 7.62. 5.56.

[@adrianfrift7571]

I'm a cadet now, we get special combat vests, similar to the old ops vests, but only 2 utility pouches and 2 magazine pouches

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

In Australia in 80s we got the current issue webbing. 303 and some SLR 50/50 and had 2 Bren guns at school cadet unit. But to be fair, its not that long out of Vietnam so the Army had heaps of current issue which we used until we, like you guys, sadly went 5.56. Stupid " most combat is 50 to 100m we dont need 7.62 anymore". Said it then, we are a big flat country, to defend you need 7.62 nato and one day we will be in a desert and need it too" . Seem to have seen a lot of H&K 7.62 in Afganistan 1 per squad🤣🤣. Guess selling a the SLRs off wasnt smartest thing to do. Fek8n boffins n bean counters know shit🤣🤣

[@buddybeets]

I’m 48 and I used 58 in army cadets but paired with the good ol lee enfield

[@spoonerbooner]

ee its like being back at the cadets. we used to use bungie cords to strap down webbing so it didn't jump around when yumping about woods

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

Be interesting if you trialed a Vietnam webbing as worn by ANZAC troops there. The Kiwis wore same as us but had some 44 Brit packs. Australia didnt we just used our stuff, same belt order as Kiwis and different backpack

[@hairydave82]

Simon, a bloke in the woods is great. I love his kayaking videos, especially the one he did with his mate in Sweden.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Great series that. Really enjoyed them. Kent Survival seems to be chasing views at the moment with his content but I like some of his vids.

[@hairydave82]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV You should take a look at TA Outdoors if you like bushcraft stuff. Fandabi Dozi is also worth a watch. He's is a Scottish guy who does Jacobean bushcraft/living history.

[@jasemac5391]

What a bloody awesome idea, Webbing walks 👍🏻🇦🇺 can’t wait to see the rest of these videos 😊

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

We’ll get around to doing the PLCE one at some point. The stars haven’t aligned yet :)

[@e.j.m2154]

Brings back memories. I recall (from the 80’s LOL) the “C” in CEFO and CEMO is Combat Equipment Fighting (or Marching) Order. I still have a set and occasionally bring it out in lieu of my day pack.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I am surprised sometimes that the hiking market hasn't embraced webbing an chest rigs more. I prefer it to small packs and everything is compartmentalised better.

[@davidnorman7715]

Correct, combat equipment fighting order

[@TheInnacity]

you have chosen the coldest day of the year for a trot around the beeston weir , nice to glimpse the old world i knew in me teen years , dont get a chill now

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Was a lovely day. Least the mud had all frozen! :)

[@yinka.africa]

17:33 The DPM the 58 and the rear view of you guys walking is an imaged etched in my memory.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Hope they weren’t bad memories.

[@Dan-Dan46]

Good idea for a video, really enjoyed it, totally agree with Gadge about the resi pouch being separate from the belt, and also the ice cream tubs inside the kidney pouches, I was always unlucky and ended up with the shovel whacking the back of my legs !!

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Thanks Dan. Glad you enjoyed it. I’ll pick up a shovel next time we’re at a surplus place that has one. Be interesting to have one on for a longer walk.

[@christophermarshall5015]

i was"in", in the 1980's ever tried running what was the old "CFT? trust me your resi was on the belt only drivers and other remf's had it as a stand alone,never had kidney pouches fitted [ apart from my time at shorncliffe lol]always used water bottle pouches with trip flare boxes inside we even had our razors etc cut down,anything to cut the weight back,blocks were a pain,alway used a camping stove[saved getting that black xxxx off your tins,again never used mess tins used a tin cup,easier to get clean,despite what you might have been told most squaddies are a lazy bunch,so anything that cuts the workload down [and the drinking time up]would get a thumbs up from most guys i knew lol,never carried a shovel always went for the pick it was easier

[@Dan-Dan46]

@@christophermarshall5015 Shorncliffe? I was there in 89 ?

[@tommo9757]

Awesome idea guys. Very original. Look forward to seeing more of these

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Thanks glad you enjoyed it. Lots of fun to make too.

[@michaelpatten5362]

Ditch the kidney pouches, NBC pouch & put 2 magazine pouches plus 3 water bottle pouches on the belt & that’s how to wear the 58 pattern webbing. Almost forgot thread para cord through the bottom of each pouch to stop it from flapping about when your advancing to contact 👍👍👍👍

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Starting off as per the fitting instructions! :) will do a modified setup in the future. Thanks for the tips.

[@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603]

I carried it for years from when I was 16 till early 20s and I had no problems with it

[@philipedwards8963]

Enjoyed the video, look forward to the plce one! Good to see you boys out for a stroll 😀

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Was a lovely day. :)

[@edjones7709]

All you need now is your L1A1 bindook (no sling, of course) and your 'boingy' (Helmet Mk4) and you can really play soldiers. Then try it for a 10-day exercise. (old squaddie who is glad he doesn't have to do it all again!)

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

😂

[@BIGkami74]

Jolly good video that like. Looking forward to seeing more of these types of videos. Keep up the good work gents.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Thanks for letting us know. Lots of fun to make.

[@badgertheskinnycow]

Hi, great vid guys - just a quick couple of points - it's COMBAT Equipment Fighting Order. See Karkee Web. In the Infantry (80s) the resi pouch was always on your belt - because you never went anywhere without your webbing. And my top tip from my 1980s days as an infantry section commander is - wear your pick axe handle sideways across the top of your kidney pouches (held with a bungie etc).

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Hey thanks for the information glad you enjoyed it.

[@simposayerman]

An old infantry saying ; ‘ Fight light , Freeze at night !!

[@maxsteele20]

I'm gonna start wearing my plate carrier (With plates) when taking the dogs out methinks... I've put on almost a stone during lockdown... Nice vid..enjoyed it.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I’ve got a slick carrier with steel training plates in that I’ll probably do the same with.

[@garenkarapetian709]

Fun video! Thing is, if one is hiking over relatively large distances (national parks, public footpaths and such), carrying a 16kg load makes a lot more sense on the hips using such belt kit than carrying a backpack or rucksack. Because one's centre of gravity is lower (s)he'll be a lot more agile and better balanced in various walking movements, hence covering longer distances much more efficiently. But, that being said, if one tries to hike wearing a British army belt kit, wouldn't he be stopped by a police or get weird looks from passerbys?

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

We’ve never had an issue making these episodes. People have been interested and asked us about the kit. I suspect most public would assume that you could be reserves out training. Maybe dressing up in full kit would draw some funny looks.

[@haroldvonschwartzenstien3581]

Needs more bungees, lots and lots of bungees.

[@stevetheduck1425]

Used '58 pattern while in the RAF '76 to '86. Had a '44 pattern respirator pouch, and two L-shaped bits that looked like they were from '37 pattern as no-one knew where they went. Still had to hand it all in or pay for it, but picked up parts of '58 later at a Chatham surplus shop, long gone now. Seems some parts are selling on ebay now. Liked the belt for walking, but rarely needed more than a side pouch.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Lots on eBay. 44 is getting a bit rarer but is now also being reproduced. The supply of 58 is still plentiful and cheap though it’s creeping up in price.

[@markwebster1952]

I has the South African version of the Pattern-70 which catered for additional magazines. we would have to lug (if I recall correctly) up to 18 magazines (20 round 7.62) as well as some spare ammo for the LMG and out kit

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

That’s a heavy load

[@davidleonard1813]

Recently bought the kidney pouches. As I thought basically the same material as Australian 88 pattern. Water weight easy fix. Scotchgaurd pump has a can into each pouch. I run it on a PLCE belt. Currently it's kidney pouches. Which I've altered. I took that silly top belt attachment off. Added a tab and a D ring as older Alice but packs had. Hunting a resi pouch atm. I will do same to that. I also sewed 2 tabs 50mm on end of each kidney pouches, add a Alice clip each end more stability End game plan is Alice harness. Plce belt and belt keepers X 4 to connect harness. I'll yun resi pouch rear, 2 Australian water bottles 1 either side. And cut the 58 kidney pouch one either side as we would have for SLR mag pouches. To solve the need for containers. Run 2 British Dixies to lock food in. I tried dry bags wrong shape too much room lost. I thought about sewing a snow collar on. In the end I got some old linen had 2 trials for size. Then made the final one out of waterproof khaki material made 2 X waterproof treated cotton rectangular fracturing bags. Works perfect. Toying with the idea of a 50mm webbing strap across the top at rear and sewing some flexible thin perspex or maybe say 3 layers of ice cream containers cut up to stabalise it but still have flex.

[@user-se7es6uc8v]

Blot bang rub! Lol this webbing was okay ( but not the backpack), it just got soaked in the rain and took aeons to dry out.

[@kalliste23]

58 Pattern is fine and it can be adjusted to be very comfortable. Until it gets wet and weighs twice as much and the fasteners are stuck. With a bit of tweaking and proper waterproofing it could be really good.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I like my optimised set up I’ve currently got with 4 water bottle pouches sewn together instead of the kidney pouches and a hip pad.

[@T5Travels]

That brings back memories. I had the large pack with my set too.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I don’t have a large pack. I’ll get one for completeness. But I’ll probably never use it :)

[@nigelwright1610]

If you want to get away from Hexamine but still be period correct for the 70's-80's re-enactment. Pick yourself up a Camping Gaz Bluet burner. Still in production and only around £15-20 from Argos.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Thanks Nigel. Yeah I was just watching a video where someone was talking about a bluet stove and had one from the period. Think it was Rifleman Moore. I’ll probably stick with the jetboil for airsoft games but I’ll certainly best that in mind if I want to move more into living history or re-enactment.

[@Warcrimeenthusiast]

I am a huge fan of the 58 pattern webbing I've used it for years in the North Pennsylvania woods

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Excellent. What’s your setup?

[@Warcrimeenthusiast]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV I carry a tarp and lightweight sleeping bag in the bivi roll and typical bushcraft supplies in the kidney pouches in one kidney pouch I use the square 1950s french mess kit with various food and whatnot. In the other I have a swiss stove and fire kits with tinder. I carry 3 44 pattern canteens with a katadyn water filter in one ammo pouch with compass and other sundries in the other. 15 lbs and I've lived off it for 4 days. Oh and I go between a kukri of a sissipuukko as a knife

[@NepaAirsoft]

Liking the Beads on the vest.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Pace beads in Gadge’s smock.

[@rule3036]

Having lived in 58 pattern for 9 years in the 80s/90S I can confirm it was crap gear but thats what we had. If you want to make this realistic . Soak the webbing and wear it wet for a week, see how comfy it is then.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Done it for a weekend. Was not very entertaining 😂

[@jasonf663]

I had a set of 58 webbing, when I was in the cadets back in the early eighties. When I left, I sold it, which was definately a major mistake and I regret that decision to this day.The most intriging piece was a so call SAS escape pouch. I never foud out what was suppose to go in there and I used it for extra food. but it was just cool. (as is 68 pattern in general andI don'tcare what anyone says)

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

68 is now about to repro by what price glory in a range of sizes. I’ll be getting some

[@paladinmaid2334]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV That is bloody good news

[@combatfishairsoft3725]

I joined the army in 1994 and cos I was in the really large core we used 58 pattern webbing in basic training and got PLCE when we got to our unit after training the difference is amazing but I liked the 58 more will have to get myself a set for Airsoft not for any particular load out just because I can

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

There’s tons out there at good prices. Got to admit that I quite like it too.

[@combatfishairsoft3725]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV I have to finish a load out first I have bits of about 6 load outs I like doing interesting ones that have some truth in them I e I have seen pics from Vietnam where us seals are using mp40's and silenced sten guns at the beginning of it I rocked up in tiger stripe camo and an mp40 it gets people talking hahaha

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

There was some pretty mad stuff going on. We’re doing an Australian Army Training Team Vietnam loadout this year.

[@combatfishairsoft3725]

It would be great to see a vid of cross over kit and gun,s stuff you could get away with using in different load Outs I would definitely watch it

[@Sabre-vn7wy]

You need to bin the kidney pouches and large mess tin and beg, borrow or steel 3 or 4 water bottle pouches and a second small mess tin that's what we used to do or even bin both mess tins and just use a yank metal cup. By using thick black elastic looped around your pouches it helps to keep them snug stopping them from flapping around and rubbing the other thing some of the lads including myself used to do was ditch the belt for a roll pin belt or stitch the roll pin and some of the canvas belt to the issue belt. Basically mod it to how it suits you no one ever made do with just the issue kit, as the saying goes " any idiot can be uncomfortable" so don't worry about it being as issued for re-enactment as there is no hard fast rule. At least that is my experience having worn the stuff from leaving training in 1983 for 12 years until we were issued 95 PLCE. One final tip to make 58 look authentic is to grab some thick foam and masking tape it under the yolk shoulder straps and inside the belt to help stop it rubbing. Hope this helps cool vid

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

You’re going to love what I’ve done with my 58 since this video then! Video coming soon.

[@Sabre-vn7wy]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV Looking forward to it lol

[@jamesmckeand5607]

I would be interested to see your opinions on the '83 SA battle vest. It used to be considered Ally as fook back in the 90's

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I’ve got one. It’s on the list.

[@christophermarshall5015]

long story short it's good [i mean real good] not for europe

[@3Tool1]

For some reason this only just appeared in my recommendations. Its like Jack Hargreaves meets Dad's army lol. But I really enjoyed it. Cheers lads. I ditched the kidney pouches on my cold War airsoft kit and use 3/4 water bottle pouches. I find that Chinese takeaway plastic tubs fit in them nicely too to keep things dry and rattle free.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I’ve got 4 water bottle pouches and a roll pin belt on this now! :)

[@3Tool1]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV yeah the roll pin makes a big difference.

[@medic7698]

Interesting you were talking about rations. The first compo rations I was issued had powdered tea and coffee in paper tubes and the jam came in toothpaste type tubes as did the condensed milk. The tea was horrible so we used to take our own tea bags.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I’m a coffee snob. I take my own even when using rations.

[@medic7698]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV I have to say that I preferred tea in the field because it's a bit difficult to set up a drip machine and they never told us which pouch to put it in.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

:) have a look at an Aeropress.

[@alphadogzairsoftfamily7245]

Looks enjoyable

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Was a good stroll and chat

[@freshfrozen3035]

It looks nice

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I quite like it.

[@benwilson3423]

Would love to see a PLCE webbing walk.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Sounds like a plan to me.

[@benwilson3423]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV awesome

[@derdersoft]

Good idea for series. The West German webbing is fairly dire, while it's GDR counterpart is about as bad. Almost like cannon fodder kit.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Yeah the counter part is better suited to being bondage gear.

[@derdersoft]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV Fair point. The heavy use of black leather is making more sense now. Keep up the good work.

[@fastactionresponseteam8151]

I really enjoyed this.. are you planning on doing a pattern 95 webbing walk? Or A 95 pattern simulation loadout?

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

We will at some point. We both need to get out kit together.

[@reneblacky]

Dumb question from me regarding the respirator pouch/bag, when did these come out in DPM? Cheers in advance. Really enjoyed your video!😀

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Came with DPM PLCE Webbing. Early to mid 90s.

[@reneblacky]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV Thanks Mate from Melbourne Australia

[@stevecolson8569]

We got 35kg in our chemo kit out

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Way more than I would like carry around.

[@serverlan763]

What do the Brit arm use these days instead of pattern 58?

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Virtus as a plate carrier and light fighting belt kit. There are still versions of PLCE around. Most serious lads buy their own webbing.

[@251294Jordan]

I recently got a set of 58 pattern webbing but the belt doesn’t fit me, it’s too small. From what I’m seeing on eBay they’re a one size fits all at 100cm in length. Is this true or are there larger sizes out there?

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I think there’s two sizes of belt. As with most things surplus the larger sizes are harder to find.

[@251294Jordan]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV I was afraid you were going to say that, I love this webbing but I have to breath in when I use it lol guess I either have to use a different belt or hit the gym 😂

[@poonug]

What military experience do you guys have jw?

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Gadge did a short stint in the British army reserves. I have none whatsoever.

[@airsoftfreak11]

This was great

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Thanks.

[@Bob-dh7bv]

They used 38 webbing in MCTC early 90s or so I’m told 😉😉😉

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

ouch

[@James-C24]

Did you get any strange looks? Im thinking about using a set of discrete webbing for spreading the weight when i go hiking. Like the series so far cant wait to see what comes next!!!

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Surprisingly little actually. A couple of people were interested in what we were up. We mostly got attention from dogs.

[@James-C24]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV that's great to here. Will give it a think then!!

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

If you don’t go for camo and use solids most people won’t even see it.

[@davidbland5053]

58 Pattern webbing was heavy and got even worse when it was wet. The idea was good, but it could have been much better.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

For its time and given the design and doctrine constraints it was a pretty decent set. It didn’t really evolve over the 30 years it was in service though and was very lacking towards the end.

[@davidbland5053]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV the US webbing was miles better, which is why it is still used by US forces today even though its a improved version. Its been around since the mid 1950s and still going.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

The US don’t use M56 anymore. That went out of service in the mid 1970s. There has been many changes of basic load bearing gear since then. The US changed again to LC2 before the British Army went to PLCE and What they use now is not the same system. US doctrine for load carrying was very different to the British Army. I’m not saying 58 is good by today’s standards. I’m saying in terms of what they wanted from it in the mid 50s it met those. What’s your experience of using 58 pattern?

[@davidbland5053]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV by the late 80s and early 90s it was not fit for service. It was heavy and worse when wet, it had limited amount of space especially for the ever increasing amount of equipment being issued to put stuff, quite often supplemented with extra pouches. The god send was the Berghaus Munro 35 litre day sac.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I think we are both saying the same thing! :) my set is now heavily modified. 4 water bottle carriers stitched together instead of the kidney pouches. Two 44 water bottle carriers one with a metal mug and the two ammo pouches. Roll pin belt added as well. The 58 large pack is a total abomination so no wonder people got rid of that as soon as possible.

[@46templar]

Are you two trying to get a TV show to hairy men and there webbing walks

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

If they pay me I’m all good.

[@richardmachray191]

You need to try carrying that stuff wet....

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Yeah but no :) it’ll probably happen during a game though.

[@Rokaize]

Spray it with canvas waterproofing spray. Works for me.

[@evillabrador1]

CEFO should weigh 35 lb.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

In the webbing or including the pack?

[@evillabrador1]

@@AnvilAirsoftTV Just the webbing. Before a Combat Fitness Test (CFT) or a march and shoot competition you would get it weighed. With a pack it would be CEMO.

[@stewbacca117]

God damned overlap on military acronyms/mnemonics ... C3 used to be command control and communications... Now its a fucking Rolo 🤔😜😅 Glad Gadge's gear is also assembled with liberal swearing. It's not just for putting in gearboxes. You can use the bottom roll on the 58 pattern to secrete a bottle of badly made Vodka during school hiking expeditions, not that I ever did that with mine of course.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Chocolate Covered Caramel. No mention of commercial products please... ;) How much booze you can stash in webbing is probably a video. We might end up carrying more beer than water when lockdown restrictions ease and we’re allowed to ‘picnic’

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Don't try this in very hot weather like in the US during the Summer... It will kill you...

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

It was just above freezing when we did this. Planning another one soon with PLCE.

[@GM-pm8fy]

I cannot imagine an enviroment where this would work well. Maybe dry but not really cold nor hot and sweaty. It would nice to know what other counties did and what other people used to get around the heavy and slow dry problem during this period. I cannot see what the point of this stuff is unless you are in and out of all the pockets all day. If you fell into cold water with all that stuff, jackets and gloves all fully packed, you would be very lucky to get out.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

It worked for the British Army (with individual solder mods) in all terrains and environments for 30+ years. No where near perfect and it was getting very old fashioned when it was retired. However the principle of multiple pouches on a belt with a load carrying yoke is still being used. British soldiers don’t have the resupply logistics of US forces and some other countries so tend to carry more and be more self sufficient. Smocks are still worn, pockets are still filled. Other than the materials used the principles still hold true

[@sgtg4600]

You go out in public dressed like that?

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Yup but not very often.

[@sonrouge]

Ounces equal pounds.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Pounds equal pain!

[@ryrygilory]

sub! legends

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

More coming. Just been filming the PLCE version.

[@Rokaize]

You two are mid 40s? What? You both look like 30.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

I’m 44 Gadge is a year older I think

[@flatmoon6359]

You really have no respect for my mental health in bringing this out.Try carrying this for weeks,for 10 hours,you get to hate the water absorbing,fits nobody,heavy rubbish.With rubbish boots as well.Thanks.

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Sorry! :)