Were Sims 3 packs actually better than Sims 4?

[@lizjenkin7170]

Sims 3 EPs: Here are new things to do. Sims 4 EPs: Here are new ways to do things you can already do.

[@itsmariaa18]

I feel the only new thing S4 added new is an actual proper funeral and will system, that's it.

[@BunE22]

​@@itsmariaa18They did add infants, but I find them annoying. 😂

[@inesATTACK]

@@itsmariaa18 its literally the same podium as the politician career, with different reactions from sims using existing moodlet reactions. I loved the world and cas though - but i think the grim career was the highlight in terms of new gameplay

[@rixannah928]

new woohoo location.. yey😢

[@OdeeOz]

Short answer to Video Tile Question... YES, Sims 3 is definitely far better as an OPEN WORLD LIFE SIM game, vs the CLOSED WORLD Sims-4 flop.

[@nakseli]

One thing I really miss from Sims 3 is the quests you got based on your job or skills, like "deliver this important document to the town hall to get a raise in work performance" or "fix this person's shower and earn some money". They even had you deliver a dead family member's tombstone to the science lab to try to revive them, which led to you getting the ghost added to your household. Man I really miss these small details and all the crazy stuff that could happen!

[@LihapullaPeni22]

Kato suomalaine

[@shisht_1234]

but that’s still there with the pop-ups, which increase or decrease your work performance, so i don’t really get your point

[@shisht_1234]

especially with get famous, you can gain or lose fame and money with those popups, which are arguably more in depth than the sims 3 popups

[@nakseli]

@shisht_1234 have you played Sims 3? I'm not talking about the popups

[@AeridisArt]

@shisht_1234if you had played TS3, you would know they were talking about Opportunity quests.

[@maenor]

I remember during TS3 era there were already some discussions that certain TS3 packs were shallow and empty. Oh boy, we did not see what was coming next. 🤣

[@NopWorks]

I miss the time when the biggest cashgrabby thing to worry about is a phoned-in celebrity endorsement pack with objects some people find to be gaudy. 😂

[@TheChocoDoll]

I remember that!! The constant disappointment because it was compared to ts2 often and had become so cashgrabby. If we indeed had known about the future of s4 back then 😂

[@DistortedMelodies_]

This kinda proves that we don't value what we have until it's gone

[@tonichan89]

And the TS3 Store upping prices over the years, I remember that being a contention as well. They'd be really skeevy about the advertising of the worlds as well; I remember the Aurora Skies world really heavily advertised a balloon, the pictures making it look like you could actually fly above the neighbourhood. It seemed plausible since they had made horses work, and underwater swimming, etc... But when I bought it, turned out you could NOT fly over the neighbourhood. The balloon would be attached to a rope, and it would hover a pretty lame distance above the ground, stuck in place. You could stand in it and drink champagne. But honestly? I remember a lot of the expansion packs exceeding my expectations a number of times because there would be so much to do in each of them. When I saw the leaked cover of the pets expansion, I thought it was fake simply because it had horses on it, and I didn't believe for a second we'd get HORSES. But then we did! And wildlife too! The expansions grew a *little* more shallow in the later years, probably because they invested more in the TS3 store's content? Although I really enjoyed the Future-themed expansion even if it didn't have *as much* depth... in retrospect, it feels a step closer to what Sims 4 expansions are like. Still better, but... you know.

[@theroyalebunny8239]

That means sims 5 is about to be HELL if it ever gets made

[@khedoneko]

At this point, I want to see "My First Disappointment Pack" from Sims 4

[@lekiwix520]

This pack is actually included in the base game

[@khedoneko]

@@lekiwix520 EA was generous for once 🤣

[@thesimslover82884]

Journey to Batuu and My First Pet Stuff. It's already been here.

[@Dao_Tui]

They'd have to pay me to even own it and I'd still be disappointed XD

[@estcharlesten]

Maybe they’ll make it a kit… 😂😭

[@maybellinelover]

The real reason Sims 3 is superior is because when I sit down to play for an hour or two, I end up playing for days. When I sit down to play Sims 4 for an hour or two, I end up playing for like ten minutes.

[@suzannev12]

After going through cas for hours LOL yes, then the actual gameplay is about 10 minutes...

[@adrianblake8876]

Sims3 has insane loading times (it takes a full half hour from desktop to gameplay), so ofc you have to maximize gameplay time to make it worth. Though it helps that you only have to load once (unless you vacation in a subworld, if you have WA, UL, or ITF) as the game is open world...

[@lovmi2byz91]

I mostly play sims 4 to build

[@islandkuya7224]

Maybe the reason we had just all grown-up 😭😭

[@mihailoveselinovic7151]

​@@adrianblake8876Get an ssd. I load a save from desktop in 5 minutes. Sims 2 loads in 30 seconds.

[@N1A2T3TTT]

I play Sims 3 with one expansion pack, Island Paradise, right now. I'm having way more fun with just one pack than when I played Sims 4 with every single pack installed.

[@tiawashington3339]

I agreed but I’m playing with generations in s3 . I honestly like it better than s4

[@moon-in-capricorn]

Island paradise, when working, is one of my absolute favorite packs, tied with late night. I think the only pack in 3 that I thought was lacking was showtime, but that pack still has so much to do, it’s just not my cup of tea

[@nonymouswisp8176]

For me its Pets and Seasons, I need that sweet atmosphere that weather and seasons add

[@musicalnerdkay]

@@tiawashington3339same! generations is all i need and i’m SET

[@YgorCortes]

​@@moon-in-capricorn Island Paradise and Late Night are my favourite too alongside Seasons, but I absolutely LOVE Showtime also (maybe because I'm a singer myself, but still) 😭

[@keit99]

I think the main difference is that sims 1 2 and 3 were life simulation games whereas sims 4 is a dollhouse simulator. Also I disagree hard on create a style. Create a style actually allowed for all pieces of furniture to in a room to have e.g. the same wood texture and you could copy the texture and colour settings over.

[@eemie_]

same on cas and i also feel like i'm the only person in the world who prefers sims 3 graphics to sims 4. like i've actually had arguments irl about this, but sims 4 is just way too cartoonish and plastic-y for me. idk how to explain it but they all look like clay sculptures and it puts me off. overall i think the sims game with the best graphics was sims medieval.

[@CasualGamerGirl77]

Yep CaS tool was the best thing ever. Never got the slightly off color or slightly off texture things Sims 4 craps out. Right before I went to Sims 4 I was downloading my own textures and putting them in the game. I have no idea how I did it but it was fun putting personal drawings my kids did on my sims clothes or even couches, beds, curtains etc.

[@YgorCortes]

​@@eemie_Sims Medieval was AWESOME and it had fantastic graphics indeed!

[@eemie_]

@@YgorCortes I legit think I played sims medieval more than sims 3, it was so fun, they shouldn't have discontinued it

[@Demonlovesangel]

I remember that with TS3 I played legacies I NEVER ran out of things to do, ever. It was so fun, I even had a notebook with each generation's goals because it was a little hard to keep track of everything. I always play legacies, and with TS4 I get bored on the 2nd or 3rd heir 😢

[@drradon]

Because every family ends up playing the same because whatever of the many things to do is just the same collection of chores.

[@HappilyCarnivore]

@@Demonlovesangel How do you play legacies?

[@pieteroosthuizen1265]

I do the same. TS3 you can really invent amazing legacy stories. I actually recently had the initial heir (the Sim that started the family tree) be revived by one of his great great grandkids who is a witch (she is like the 6th generation down). And he now married one of his great great cousins or something. And every generation has like some very interesting game play twist, i.e one generation were only inventors trying to make as many servos as possible, one is a farmer naking money out of horse riding and now owns a unicorn, one was two vampires who was part of a band, while living as an actor and musician in the big city. It is very easy to be creative in TS3. Love it!

[@kiarak4071]

@@HappilyCarnivore You basically play the same family for multiple generations, hence why it's called a legacy playthrough. But because TS4 is so mind-numbingly boring, it's very difficult to actually enjoy it.

[@blameitondanny]

4:26 This, I agree so much. Sims 4 likes to add so much but at the same time none of it goes together so it felt overwhelming.

[@Anonymous-mp5mt]

With previous titles like the Sims 3 and 2 expansions actually came with whole new objects not repeats of the same swing,doll house,drinks trays, drawing tables and so much more. When’s the last time we got a new game play object in a pack that’s not a repeat or repeats the same interactions or animations?

[@RKon1995]

The Sims4 is pretty packaging with little substance. Nice for CAS and BB, but quite weak on gameplay.

[@yageshabazz3456]

I hate how sims 4 packs basically use items we already have to pad their build/buy and CAS items. It’s so lazy!

[@arleccio]

How new do you need them to be? Almost everything about infants was new. New life stage, new objects, new animations, etc. The woohoo picnic blanket and the massage bed were both new. The haunted houses, bucket list and rebirth are new. The alarm clock actually working is new.

[@suzannev12]

@@arleccio haunted house, bucket list and alarm clock..how does this add gameplay?

[@moon-in-capricorn]

@@RKon1995even with build mode, it’s severely lacking. I can’t fill all of the rooms in my houses with activity items, there’s not that many. Meanwhile the sims 3 has so many that you never get bored. I can’t play 4 on live mode for more than like 20 minutes without being painfully bored.

[@sergioferreira7989]

TS3: The real evolution of life simulators TS4: Could Never ✨️

[@arisun8572]

i personally like (and want to have back) the create-a-style tool a whole lot

[@WaterAce168]

I loved Create a Style! I made some crazy rooms, like an all metal bedroom for a sim I hated. Maybe it was a bit too extensive (especially at the time). I feel like there is a happy medium there, like just a colour wheel or limited textures

[@BunE22]

I think that if there isn't a technical issue regarding the color wheel, they don't implement it in 4 because players might not buy kits and packs for new CAS and build/buy options.

[@Henrique96Alves]

One thing that bothers me A LOT is that even if we gather some sims 4 packs into a single one that is equivalent to a sims 3 expansion will still seem to have less gameplay. For example, merging all occults game and compare do Supernatural... I think Supernatural still wins, especially because the base game sctructure makes a huge difference

[@Zack_Wester]

add in as each sims3 expansion was a full scale expansion. meaning if you bought a pack you could make a full house whit just that pack. meanwhile the sims4 warewolf pack want to make a full house using only warewolf DLC.. to bad. (not sure if you can make a full house whit warewolf I just took that as a example).

[@ember9361]

@@Zack_Wester and if the pack came with a town, (most of them) you could make a full *town* with that pack! Every rabbit hole was also made custom to fit said town. Love the attention to detail in that game

[@augusto7681]

@@Zack_Wester Worewolf is a game pack not an expansion. Even then I dont think the amount of BB or CAS justify the quality of a pack, its a game, it need to have gameplay. I never played sims 3 supernatural pack, but people often say the sims 4 worewolfs are the most complete occult in the sims series.

[@cecil4616]

@@augusto7681 they called the S4 werewolf pack a pack you word policing psycho, also imagine doing that in a comment thread about S3 packs comapred to S4 packs when you've never even played that S3 pack. Correction people say S4 weres are hte most complete occult pack FOR SIMS 4 not the sims series.

[@Raphaeltheslayer]

@@Zack_Westermy wedding stories, seasons, parenthood, cats and dogs, horse ranch

[@reeceyb505]

You can tell nearly all of the people who made the previous sims games don't work for EA anymore, hence why TS4 is so different...

[@moon-in-capricorn]

This is a really good observation, and it makes total sense. It almost feels like the pack now are not made by people who grew up playing or actively play the sims.

[@RabbitKirby]

On another note, World Adventures could have just been its own spinoff game, change my mind. Everytime i reinstall the sims 3 i always just want to play freaking tomb raider and collect everything for my private museum.

[@Affenzunge]

Yes, it's my favourite pack!

[@NopWorks]

Oh yes, the private museum! I also missed hoarding up those fun shower-in-a-can, fortune cookie machines, and other gadgets that can only be bought from the travel world.

[@bryciewiseman3204]

I think what separates sims 3 bugs from sims 4 bugs is the sims 3 was buggy bc it had so many features and was too ambitious. The sims 4 is just bad

[@Zack_Wester]

also more of the sims3 bug was you playing the game for ingame years. Sims4 I install basegame+[this Expansion]. im going to try out this expansion gamething. create a sims go to the new expansion... it bugs out in 3 diffrent way.. the savefile is less then 15 min old. meanwhile most sims3 bugs(if it was not a memory bug) took hours upon hours on the savefile before they showed up.

[@bryciewiseman3204]

@ exactly! I played the sims 4 with no mods and all expansions installed and it was so buggy and laggy the mods actually somehow made it less

[@deedeelun]

Sims 4 "gameplay": Here lads, you got a few new pop-ups, enjoy!

[@NopWorks]

Don't remind me of Sims 4 team hyping up textboxes 😭😭😭

[@Noel.Chmielowiec]

They just want to trick kids to read more 😂

[@meganlister3084]

I get so angry when I think about it too much. 😢

[@keit99]

Actually island paradise can work with other houseboats but you need to disable the ability to move them for NPCs

[@Zack_Wester]

wasn´t the problem that one of the houseboats was not properly docked. Like the game think its docked. the sims think its docked and when they try and pathfind it just breaks and then the game have to brute force up a solution causing lag. if you move the boat out into the water it works fine as now the boat is properly flagged by the system and pathfinder that's it out in the water. if you move it to a dock its properly classed as docked and the pathfinder works fine.

[@RKon1995]

I read the title and instantly went yes. You just got so much more content and gameplay for your money with the Sims3 packs.

[@georgiemac1784]

Even sims 2 are FAR better than sims 4 ones. Remember sims 2 h+m??? I was obsessed. Sims 4 starwars genuinely broke a part of my soul 😢 im a huge star wars fan

[@moon-in-capricorn]

H&M and IKEA!!!!! The IKEA pack is so iconic!

[@MsInterestedParty]

Open of business!! Changed my gameplay in the best way

[@lunaredelvour2972]

sims 3 and its packs feels like a knitted or crocheted project. it feels like one big thing threaded together that's so interlocked and so connected that, with some exceptions, feels seamless. sims 4 feels like a puzzle. the pieces come together with rigid jagged lines and you can see clearly where one expansion ends and another starts and you can take one piece out without affecting everything else

[@lenblake4752]

I completely agree with this, I often have to look up where features come from. The big exception imo would be Into the Future, where you have to go to a whole different realm to play most of the features. Maybe it's not a coincidence that this was the last pack, as it is more Sims 4 style (but with much more content).

[@ebraden09]

I just spent like $18 and got 4 packs for TS3 through Instant Gaming. I’m having a blast. I well over 4 packs for TS4 and I still get bored after 30 minutes.

[@Otherccono]

Sure Sims 3 Create a Style wasn't the most seamless but I get annoyed at some players saying it *never* needs to come back instead of coming back with better performance and efficiency. Seems to be what EA wants people to think so they can sell recolours in different packs. The Sims 4 swatches are better than Sims 3 swatches, but CASt still was brilliant as an option.

[@BunE22]

You can add swatches in 3

[@xnrosaigaming]

This is not a debate, TS3 is the better game overall.

[@OdeeOz]

Hellelujah AMEN to that! 👍👍💖🌟

[@pamelaryerson6107]

Another thing you could do in TS3 World Adventures: if your visa level was high enough, you could build/buy vacation homes in the worlds and own multiple properties. TS3 also allows you to buy and/or invest in businesses in your world; you could then customize and make money off them. This gave your Sim something to do with their money and added a whole other level of gameplay. As you say so often, Satch, The Sims 4 could never!

[@IzzyandShadow]

Sims 3 is the GOAT tbh

[@afairyist9981]

2 and 3 are amazing! Sims 4 is such a disappointment, I desperatly wanted to like it...

[@IzzyandShadow]

@@afairyist9981 yeah I agree the sims 4 is good but only with mods without it imo it’s almost unplayable

[@afairyist9981]

@@IzzyandShadow Yeah I managed to play it for a while modded, but then I went back to Sims 3. I very recently started playing Sims 2 and I'm loving it as well. Also love your profile pic! Are they your bunnies? ❤

[@IzzyandShadow]

@@afairyist9981 I can’t get the sims 3 to work with any cc it’s driving me mad and no one has an answer as to why, so I tend to play sims 4 more just because I can customise it more because I can use mods and cc and thank you 🥰 yes they’re my free roam rescue buns

[@afairyist9981]

@@IzzyandShadow That's unfortunate, I got Nraas to work after a long time trying (I'm not good at that stuff 😅) but I've never tried CC. Is the problem with the game not starting/performance or the CC not showing up in game? That makes sense, the modding community for 4 is incredible, I really missed it at first when I switched back to 3 Omg I have two free roam bunnies as well! One (the one in my profile pic) is a rescue, my other bun I got at 15 unfortunatly bought him from someone not great. They're adorable! What are their names? ❤

[@cydneyd6368]

Sims 3 Generations is my favorite game of all time. I used to play sims everyday after school😢

[@biancalawrence3178]

I loved World Adventures so much. I really hoped that they would release further adventure worlds with tombs etc but they never did.

[@moon-in-capricorn]

@@biancalawrence3178 same, I think it would make the most sense if they had released them on the ts3 store. I totally would’ve bought them too!

[@KevinVeroneau]

I have the same feelings about Jungle Adventures after playing World Adventures. I tried to like the similar pack in The Sims 4, but nothing can really beat having 3 destinations based on real world places, which are both fun to explore, and has much better puzzle mechanics. The "puzzles" in The Sims 4 packs have so much to be desired, and don't get me started on the load screens in 4... With World Adventures, you load the open world, and on modern PCs, it barely takes that long, then once you are at your destination, you can do all your activities without needing to worry about another load screen until you are ready to go back to your home world. Load screens really takes away from the immersion for me, especially when I'm thinking of various things I want to do during my vacation, only to forget what I was doing because of a long load screen.

[@atemple08]

I thought we've discussed this, yes.

[@lydiayeonnie]

Short answer: yes

[@tbeezygames]

Since the update fixing the issue not being able to play Sims 3 on new intel processors.... well I have been obsessed with the Sims 3 once again. So much more engaging gameplay I’m so happy!!!

[@funnylittlecactus4672]

I haven’t had time to play with TS3 since the patch, but Saturday I finally got to sit down and play. I played that game for like 12 hours! There were so many things I wanted to do. Unfortunately I can’t play TS4 for more than an hour and a half before I get bored.

[@July-nj5sn]

Sims 3 didn't worked on W11 before the update for some people?😳 It worked for me, I didn't knew that this was a thing and was totally annoyed by the update, because it made all my mods absolutely unusable.

[@jotoho]

@@July-nj5sn The update only changed one thing: It fixed the issues with newer Intel CPUs, making the Alder Lake fix mod obsolete. As far as I know, it broke no mods. Core mods may cause a warning to appear on startup until updated, but you should be able to just click "Continue" and ignore that, since the important bits of the code are the same as before. (According to the NRaas forums - I play on Steam and am not affected.)

[@July-nj5sn]

@@jotoho I had to completely empty my mods folder to even be able to start my game. Before that my game just showed a black screen.☹️ The only mods I have in my game a are a few NRaas mods, the worlds from the shop and a bit horse-stuff. Maybe the worlds are the problem.🤔

[@jotoho]

@July-nj5sn when the warning appears, the main window stays black while waiting for your response and can cover the warning alert. It's one of those windows that dont appear in the task bar. If you had minimized the game window, you might have found the warning prompt, to either quit or continue, behind it.

[@EmilyBlueJaye]

Totally agree with your analysis. Gameplay in TS4 requires so much more imagination than previous games. B/B and CAS are worlds ahead. Let's get the gameplay of TS2, open world and color wheel from TS3 and graphics (B/B & CAS) from TS4. THAT would be my perfect game.

[@synthellaart1587]

Before even watching the video - even the Sims 2 Packs were better, hell even the Sims 1 Packs were much better

[@estcharlesten]

The Sims 3 Packs, Worlds, Color Wheel, and Create a Style >>>>>>>>>> Sims 4

[@Pixieroses]

Sims 3 will always reign supreme over 4, 4 has absolutely no depth I’ve been so bored lately I spend a few hours making new families and then don’t even play 😂

[@RabbitKirby]

If im being honest sims 3 expansion packs may have been expensive for the time but i feel like with as much content as it really gave you they were worth the money. Even the majority of stuff packs were really good with very few flops. With the sims 4 the packs are cheaper. I dont even spend money on these packs anymore and still feel ripped off sometimes. Like what is and is not a gamepack vs. an expansion? Is For Rent an expansion? Is horse ranch an expansion? If Horse Ranch is an expansion, why isn't Realm of Magic an Expansion? Does anyone? remember that eco lifestyle is, in fact, an expansion? Because I don't.

[@JosephsCloud]

No sims 4 is def more expensive. Yea there are kits now which are cheaper but we are getting less content In packs then sims 3 packs. Sims 3 has quantity and quality.

[@isabellelouise7274]

the sims 4 is just extremely one dimensional. visually they look great. but in practice, you get through all of the elements that the packs come with, in less than a few hours. there isn't enough, and what is within the packs are lacklustre and don't do enough. the sims 3, was better in that respect. but the sims 4, visually looks better and is somewhat simpler to use.

[@A.C.T1997]

Sims 3 in general was better than the Sims 4.

[@MischievousMischief]

You make a good point with the Sims 4 not adding new gameplay but rather game mechanics. Sims 3 is about life, Sims 4 is about looks.

[@HappilyCarnivore]

I own all of the Sims 3 expansion packs and a good bit of the stuff packs and I have always played with them all enabled at the same time with little issue. But to be fair it's probably been three or four years since I've played it.

[@cecil4616]

same i ignored the only plays with a couple and had them all active at once.

[@Starberry_Wafflez]

I play this way now and don’t have any issues so you’d likely still be fine as well

[@StrangledWires]

I agree with most points here but Create-a-Style, even though it's laggy, it's worth it. In both Sims 2 and 4, if you want a color themed house -- like maybe you're making a pastel baby blue & pink house or a goth black & red house, you have to use VERY specific objects. So, if there's an object you particularly like but it doesn't have the right color swatch? You can't use it and you'll have to go for something you like less to get the right color. Whereas in The Sims 3, if there's a bed you really want for your home yet it lacks the Swatch, you can just color it to anything you want! It beats having to download multiple CC recolors imo.

[@mistyvaughn6356]

Idk, I spent A LOT of time on 3 building. Before my game stopped working abt 7 yrs ago I was building a whole steampunk town complete with old cars from the industrial era. The amount of time I put in 😅

[@ArmelleK]

I feel that in the Sims3 I know where I'm going, I just need to choose a goal to achieve but in the Sims4, which is more beautiful, I sometimes don't really know what to do, of course I can pet a dog or a cat, take care of a horse, go for a walk, with lots a Packs I can do lot of things but where's my goal ? Where am I going ? There's nothing to achieve really a part from Strangeville, I killed the plant mother about 3 or 4 times, improve Evergreen Habor again... and when those little achievements are done, I just don't know what to do ! In the Sims3 to achieve something it takes a long time and when it's done you just have another things to achieve and goes on and never stop ! You always have something to do in the Sims3 and I regret so much the time when it was working properly and didn't bug so much.

[@flies_of_fire]

Yes. Next question

[@nellythecat2137]

Hi Satch! If I were to give you constructive criticism, I feel like I've seen this video on your channel many times. Don't get me wrong, EA capitalistic pack system needs to be exposed, but sometimes I feel like you are repeting yourself many times. Maybe comparison of sims 2 stuff pack vs sims 3 store vs sims 4 kits would be nice? (Sims 2 stuff packs were items only, no gameplay and I think they were more expensive than kits now and it was 20-15 years ago so the value of money was way different). I think it would be so fun to compare those in terms of how many items we get for given price.

[@misokagigachad67]

I didnt even really fully completed the dlcs i have after 17394947292939403 hours building my youth on it. I play itagain now and i explore new things. Not just exploring but it makes me excited and surprise me, sims feel more like they have their own personalities and lifes, maybe because of the open world. But isn't that the main aim?

[@AlexJones-qf7rw]

I managed to get the firefighter career to work. It did require some tinkering. First off, I needed a mod, simler90's gameplay mod, which fixes the firefighter career. It's not entirely compatible with Nraas mods so you need to remove some and tune others. Then I had to replace the firetruck. It looks to have been placed with moveObjects which means it's in an invalid spot. I also have the Smooth Patch installed. But with those modifikations it worked.

[@plantlady42069]

I wish simler90 would separate the fixed firefighters part of the mod. I dont want to remove my NRass mods, I just want to be able to play the career.

[@ember9361]

also the reason island paradise was so buggy was that it was one of the last in development before sims 4 release, and as we all know now, all efforts of EAxis at the time were going to making project olympus an offline only game

[@Bluerocket94]

Yes I agree with you. Sims 4 expansion are great in that they went deeper into more of a supernatural, more of a certain life state, etc. than the Sims 3. However, I still say Sims 3 is the best and I still play it to this day. Yes, playing Sims 3 without mods just doesn't make for lasting gameplay. However, I have the mods in my game (like NRAAS) to help with the townes and ensure the town involves. Love Late Night, specifically Bridgeport really. I have modified it so much that it now has the showtime buildings and some future skyscrapers. Sims 3 just feels alive and just a great experience. Sure they have their Sims 3 issues but still would take it over Sims 4 ANY DAY.

[@CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETOLIE]

Me instantly after reading the title: YES.

[@the14thmoonofuranus]

I particularly love the dystopian Oasis Landing. Have you ever played the Sims 3 world Cronor Satch? It's AMAZING! I love all the grungy post apocalyptic stuff

[@Carcassbits11]

A rereleas would give everyone what they want

[@MarrisaPlays]

As the firefighter career is still my favorite what i found out is never have a long queue at the start of work set them to repair the alarm and the truck then eat or what ever and let them have nothing you need to cancel and do short tasks or let them auto around. then when the fire starts you will beable to click to respond and they will drop all auto tasks and run.

[@tjg813]

I think CAS and build/buy are the only things sims 4 does better than the sims 3. Game play is very lacking in comparison. Not only is it shallow but they constantly reskin old objects and pretend they are new game play items. But it’s not. They even reuse the animations. Some things are very unbalanced too, like building robots or making candles. I just don’t do it because it takes so long and it’s not worth it.

[@BiaaWilczyca-yh2nl]

Yes! I loved ts 3 as a kid (i still love it but I would love to see some new mechanics etc)

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

My theory is that EA started there descent into cashgrabification towards the end of Sims 3. There's no other reason for later packs starting to break the game as a whole. QA had to have been greatly minimalized well before Sims 4.

[@Trikovakru]

Ths 3 is sooo much better! I played it for the last few month and of course, i miss the multitasking, random Outfitchanges per day and some other little Feature from TS4, but: Its better anyway - and that without much mods! I never played TS4 without mods, because its so boring. By the way: I think it is difficult to compare the CAS, because the "style" of 2009 was simply different than it is now. You could see, that the later upcoming packs like Diesel already included much more modern clothing. But I agree with you here - when it comes to CAS and Buildbuy, Sims 4 is better. But honestly: I don't play the game for the building aspects, there are much better games for that (like Planet Zoo), but for the gameplay and TS4 still sucks in that perspective.

[@annareifer2249]

I remember a very very VERY annoying bug in sims 3, where you CANT save, and sometimes, trying to save your game, just deletet your game instead. the reason behind this bug was this annoying memorie system, every single sim had in your save file, this was horrible. sims 4, I only have problems with big builds I made Also in terms of "best build simulator" Umm Planet Coster and Planet Zoo are way more better. You can just build everything you want.

[@BunE22]

You can turn off memories in settings. It did bloat save files.

[@jordangrigorov]

7:54 Humiliation fetish 😂 That’s it

[@kiarak4071]

I will say, one of the things I liked better about TS3 occults is that, despite not having a skill tree, your occult sims always felt much more fleshed out as people. It was about balancing life as an occult (feeding and staying out of the sun as a vampire, for example) with the already in-depth everyday life that they had, like an added challenge to make things even more interesting. In TS4 it's basically just speed running leveling up because it's not that hard, then being bored and deleting your game because your grand master is basically maxing every skill and career until the end of time. The only occult thing I like better is that every vampire will have unique powers.

[@Saeshmea]

I loved the sims 3. I've played every sim game since I was a pre-teen, but the sims 3, I guess because of how old I was by then too, was the one I invested more hours in, had more expansions for and made the more complicated builds. I don't dislike the Sims 4, they deffinetly improved the building experience, but it's taken me a long time to love it, because it took them a long time to catch up to what we could already do in TS3.

[@Lindsey34343]

It’s the lore that I crave. I just finished playing an in-depth Werewolves family and there is just so much that the other packs don’t have in terms of lore. I don’t particularly love peeing on the floor though.

[@Kualinar]

My last crash : A baby just aged up to infant. Hit the Randomiser to give him his infant trait. The location where the trait should appears goes blank. The check mark remains greyed out. Waited some 20 minutes with nothing happening. Had to kill the game. Regarding active careers. In the police/detective career, in order to get a promotion, you need to resolve cases. You can ONLY resolve cases when you follow your Sim at his job. In the scientist career, you need to make break through. You can do those at home, but, you need to follow your Sim to get the fun stuff, like the Simray, the satellite antenna and the cloning machine. Go to a festival, place the antenna somewhere, have everyone have a bladder failure. Have an event where you need to have several Sims dancing ? Place the antenna and influence the neighbourhood to «Dance Night». Don't even need to have any music playing. I suspect that the reason that in The Sims4 we still don't have spiral stairways is that we can have various wall heights and platforms. Higher wall height mean that the spiral need to rotate more. A platform can mean that the spiral need to rotate less. The minimum and recommended specifications are for the base game only. If you have half of the DLCs, the minimum specifications requirement is now the recommended, and the recommended is now 16Gb of RAM. If you have all DLCs, then, you need at least 12Gb of RAM, and the recommended increase to some 32Gb of RAM.

[@davimachaado]

I might have 5k hours on Sims 3 and I always learn something new every time I open that game

[@alkynyulo8204]

I always have biases when it comes to some particular packs for the Sims 4 but Sims 3 has the best overall experience. I remember when I was on my teenage years how one expansion could literally change the whole gameplay experience in the game. Now expansion nowadays feels like you need another pack to complete the experience.

[@CosmicHero3]

I simple thing I want back: I really want color swatches and patterns back...

[@Sp3ctralI]

Sims 3 was mostly quantity AND quality Sims 4 dropped the quantity for the most part, and the standards for quality in the workplace seemed to have dropped.

[@astrologym1939]

I play for hours. never crashed. I have 90% of the packs. My game also doesn´t bug other than the sims frozing because I have been playing for many hours. but i save the game and come back 30 minutes later, and its all good

[@tonichan89]

Tip for a mod to play: Castaways Bamboo Challenge by Serinion. It's behind a patreon paywall, but it's only 3.5 USD which you only need to pay once, download, then cancel.

[@anniex7]

I had a lot of saving error issues or general crashing issues with the Sims 3 back then but now I dont, so I dont know what changed xD maybe nraas mods are now saving me

[@JennyLoveTV1]

Spot on comparison review! I agree!

[@SteamyPMcGee]

I stopped getting these packs when it became clear that they only added more clutter to the UI and pop up text boxes, and that the actual sims and their environments had completely stagnated and did nothing new. Somewhere around Dream Home Decorator, when they resold us the build-buy mode with awkward limitations!!

[@Aerie925]

Sims 3 is probably my favorite sims game. I really miss the open world feature.

[@mrmarvel9309]

One other plus I will give Sims 4 packs over Sims 3 packs is the worlds. In the sense that in Sims 4 you can experience every single world a pack has to offer in a single game. Whereas Sims 3 you're locked into playing that world for that entire save (except for a few like the Future and the Travel destinations)

[@iamnotjack.whydidichange]

I agree that none was perfect at all. Both had a lot of bugs and sims 3 made my pc crash even more than the sims4. Sims 3 overall had better gameplay and felt much more complete but I HATED the way it looked. That is why I still say Sims2 was the best one. I feel like sims3 was when th problems started and everyone ignored it because it was open world.

[@topazcoyote5482]

Hey, since EA must be scraping the bottom of the barrel, looking for new ideas for packs, I got one: DMV Pack! Where your sims still don't have cars but they can still wait for an entire day in line for service. New items include: the ticket system, which will break every once in a while. Sometimes your sims will T pose, and then seemingly forget what they're there for. Sometimes the cashier won't show up, or will decide to continuously make and drink coffee and talk to people in line. Aside from that and maybe a new TV screen we got some familiar looking furniture that we already have or wish we already had. Or it's so weird that we just won't talk about it. The clothing much the same, but maybe one thing vaguely masculine.

[@Elioououou]

Is it too much to ask to have a game that has sims 4 create a sim and building, gameplay mechanics of sims 3 and attention to detail of sims 2?

[@Didosa123]

I know that was just a small aspect of this video, but I also feel like being in a love-hate-relationship with the create a style tool in TS3. I feel like it would´ve been perfect if it was a bit easier to handle, or maybe my pc was just too bad to actually run the game, cause I always had to wait a while for the patterns and colors to load. However, the sheer frustration of not being able to just match chairs and tables in TS4 because you always have to use the pieces that came together in one pack, or they didn´t even bother to put in matching chairs and tables.... I can´t - I want my style tool back. Eventually, I´d prefer to have less bed objects but possibilities to match them, instead of tons of beds from different packs that only work with a very limited amount of objects from other packs... + who the hell needs a new tread mill in each new pack??

[@macp1111]

bang on about the new packs... truth be told the eps were never that great but i just hate the direction of the most recent ones that just surface level expand base game features while not actually adding anything new to play the game. hate them

[@itsmariaa18]

Haven't watched the video, the answer is: YES. Always. So much more things to do for the same amount of money

[@MalcolmBerglund]

That’s why I’m wary to buy so many new packs. I’ve sort of given up cause I don’t want my game to crash

[@chatsnoirblamo]

Since inzoi is licensing their technology, why do they have to update? They can just collect that check when it comes out.

[@kissing_yoo_ohmylove]

the day ts4 has a fulfilling pack is the day i can rest

[@IzzyandShadow]

Best pack they’ve brought it imo is life and death

[@georgiemac1784]

Seasons is probably the best pack for how much it adds? The holiday events, the clothings etc. That's my fave I'd say 😅

[@Choppete]

Is the sims a build simulator or a life simulator?

[@micklayne5076]

LOVESTRUCK is basically a gamepack pftttt

[@baby28girl]

I've been playing the Sims 3 again since last year, and im still not bored😅 And it's working surprisingly well. I have 2 saves, and im enjoying myself. With the sims 4, I have almost 6 and can't play without mods. BUT ... I still like the sims 4

[@picco3230]

Sims 3 and all of its packs just needs to be remastered and updated

[@tonichan89]

They're kinda adding more and more UI and 'code' systems (for the lack of a better term?) rather than gameplay items with animations. I imagine all those systems clogging the game only makes it a lot buggier in the long run, right? Gameplay items tend to interfere less with one another, if at all; for example, a guitar doesn't affect the stability of the science table, or a workout machine. But new systems? Imagine keeping track of their code not interfering or conflicting with one another, and that list of systems only getting longer and longer. It just seems like a recipe for the situation we've had for years now, and yet they keep adding more systems. It's likely because this takes less time than creating new gameplay items such as a ballet barre; it means making numerous new animations, and I'm guessing EA doesn't want to invest money in that, especially when they know they make money just fine doing things the way they are now. I also believe, much like large part of the Gaming Community ™, they don't respect or view The Sims as a "real game". They treat it more like a cozy-game that's good enough for people who want to keep playing on laptops and other consoles. They're aware "cozy gamers" won't expect much. Thus EA doesn't don't find it worth treating the Sims like a "real game", because that would mean having it exclusively played on PC's again (like the main series originally was a PC game up until Sims 4), and having it also... heaven forbid... live up to the quality standard of a PC game. And by quality standard, I'm not talking about graphics, I'm talking about content. Sims 3 open world may have been too demanding for the PC's of the time, but I don't believe that's true anymore. A new up to date Sims game with open world, I think that would run fine... if it was made for PC. But the current cozy status quo they've made is just more convenient and cheap for them. My opinion is that as long as The Sims continues to be a cozy game made for laptops and consoles, it's never going to improve. (Edit: To add to that, the Sims doesn't need to be a franchise exclusive to PC either; they *could* go back to their old ways of having a separate version of the Sims made for console. That seemed to work fine?) Also EA are assholes, lol. They could invest more in the franchise to give us more gameplay with new animations, and fix the broken packs people paid for, but they don't care to. And ultimately, they don't have to either. Unfortunately.

[@TheChocoDoll]

Ts3 was/is definitely really great game from a gameplay perspective and the word create + cast was fantastic! But the sims in it are SO UGLY! So, sooooo UGLY🤢 The freaky smiling and clapping of a happy sim still haunts my memories to this day. And the flash of the blackish glowing eyes when outdoors😰

[@jiminjams52]

tbh sims 4 is my fave (even though I got sims 3) because it's aesthetically pleasing, has better graphics, my pc doesnt try to explode and crash the game (tried both on a pc and Macbook ts4 miles better) every 5min then proceed to DELETE my stuff like sims 3. im a build and cas person overall and gameplay last. although if all this wouldn't happen to my sims 3 game I would happily ditch sims 4 and get lots of cc but I already spent so much on sims 4

[@albertl5444]

I still don't get why they remove cars..

[@NopWorks]

To be more eco-friendly I guess 😅

[@albertl5444]

@@NopWorks they add jet skis though...

[@karenmorris5837]

You hit the nail on the head with this one... I can tell how worse off the Sims 4 is from the Sims 3 just based on the amount of times I've played it and how I'm not buying any new packs. For Instance, when I play w/ Sims 3, I play in HOURS like 4 - 8 hours at a time and owned every pack. Sims 4 I can only play at maximum 3 hours at a time before I get bored and I haven't bought any new pack since For Rent... don't get me wrong there's several that I want, but I've just decided that I'm never paying the full price ever again, now that they've made the base free to play and anything new added to the game needs to be patched almost immediately. I'll buy packs when they go on sale after they've been debugged.

[@enhypenobsessed4332]

if the sims 3 had the Sims 4 graphics, CAS and build and buy, i swear it would be the best

[@cecil4616]

I could forgive the lack of cas and build stuff and the bugs in sims 3 because it actually had gameplay unlike sims 4, i was more than happy to spend money on S3 packs because they were worth and I never even thought of downloading cc. S4 for me has $1939 worth of dlc doesn't have the same amount of content as S3 and their idea of gameplay is my sims phone spamming calls and messages at me every 5 seconds and bugs that shouldn't be a thing on top of having to download a lot of mods to get rid of annoying "gameplay" like random push ups and to get basic stuff like a spiral staircase.

[@MySwitchup]

What is your fave sims pack ever-ever (across all franchises)?

[@the14thmoonofuranus]

I naively thought that The Sims 4 would be the best of the Sims 1, 2, and 3 put together. I was very disappointed 🙄 How wonderful it could have been ✨

[@caramelsmiles12]

Sims 1 + 2 packs still gave more content and experiences than Sims 4 packs. Crazy how the predecessors gave more.

[@ArlongSun]

Been awhile since I played the Sims 3, but positives were the open world, World Adventures, and a lot more unpredictable (think robbers and such). The townies just felt more alive. My characters did what they were told and didn't lag out all the time. Yes, I liked the store because I could customize what I bought oppose to kits which I may like only a few items out of the bunch. I like being able to buy new world without buying a expansion pack. Negative were always the loading (I'd leave it on in the background to avoid the start up LOL. Positives for the Sims 4 is definite building. Though I did build a lot in Sims 3. Builder always find a way. New expansion world are lazy- why did they stop putting collectables in later worlds? Why does San Musuno seeming not have any residence? Game play is very boring- Earning money is not hard. Character interaction is really pointless- every character feels the same. Hate the constant interruption of "should I go out with X phone calls". I wish there was a way to set up character routines for basic thing (wake up time, going to work, eating so you don't have to micromanage everything). I find play more that 2 character overwhelming because the AI can't have people go to the bathroom by itself. Other Sims being idiots goes from being entertaining to boring real quick. Sims 3 AI just seemed better thought out. I always wish I could just turn ghost off in game lol. Paranormal Sims make no sense to me when they don't have an impact on "normal" characters. I was excited to play an alien for the first time until nothing happened being out of disguise. Also everyone starting with 0 skills and able to level up every skill to 10 if they "try". Nothing is a challenge, just a tedious routine.