WestCreek Racer: How On Earth Is this Guitar So Cheap?

[@LonelyRocker]

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[@loudguitarist]

Nice review and channel. Any chance you could tell me if it has any neck dive at all? I've never played a SG style guitar without it and have shoulder issues that make it a deal breaker if it dives...THANKS

[@oldcrackadated]

Just received Sheeran + from Sweetwater can wait to try it

[@tomwegman7459]

I bought one of these. Your review is spot-on. Amazing bargain.

[@LonelyRocker]

Sweet! Enjoy it!

[@finaljesus]

i was checking this guitar out on amazon today i want one love the one your playing the racer thank you for the review

[@LonelyRocker]

Hope you enjoy it! And my pleasure!

[@antico.2757]

I bought one, not at all expecting to fall in love. I just thought it would look cool hanging on the wall. $170 is a low price to pay for art. Now I own 3 Racers and one Helios. Other than having to file down the nut on all of them and tighten all the loose nuts, and just a most basic setup, Westcreek guitars are amazing!! I should add - the pickups are rather microphonic. But for the weirdness I tend to make, that is a plus. I've made one of them my dedicated beater, and so far, it can really take a beating. Can't wait to see what they come up with next!

[@LonelyRocker]

Exact reason I got mine! That's funny. If things go as they should you will be seeing more models on this channel...

[@peskypesky]

Awesome demo! Your playing is great, and now you have me wanting a Racer.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much!!! Great guitar for the money. Glad you enjoyed this!!

[@GE0-1971]

They're on Sale. Prime Day. 20% off. $175 (US). I may buy another one.

[@crazyellis]

I bought mine just recently. Purple. Very detailed.

[@LonelyRocker]

Nice colour. How does yours play?

[@crazyellis]

@LonelyRocker still learning but my friend says it's nice.

[@bluwng]

How is the playability at higher registers? Body looks big how does it feel.

[@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist]

Purple you say ?? You have any links ?

[@TheMixClub]

Hats off to company for doing the right thing. Like you guitar demo nice and relaxed. Enjoyed

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you kindly! Glad you liked it...definitely a great option for a beginner or for an extra inexpensive option....

[@rockygrazny]

I've been looking at this same model and color (Steelers fan). And I love the offset SG shape. Glad I watched this video. It's now high on my list.

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome!!! Hope you grab one!!

[@taz3672]

The verify if the nut is bone or plastic. Just take a sowing needle and heat it it till it is red. Then try and poke into the side. If the needle sinks into the nut, it is plastic. If not, it is either bone or some kind of hard material like graphite or or a hybrid material with graphite in it.

[@LonelyRocker]

T.hanks for the great tip!

[@islandmadecatapults7614]

Great review! I have a number of “high end” guitars (mostly telecasters) I recently picked up a westcreek DC (les Paul Jr.) and I’m blown away by it. I’ve played it live a few times now and get more compliments from it then any of my other customs shops that cost 25 times the price.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks!! I almost got the DC but chose this one instead because it's a bit different. But I'd jam a pink DC for sure!

[@lilymae4131]

I have the Westcreek DC in pink and I expected it to be an okay guitar, but it exceeded my expectations and I was impressed by the finish and feel. I have thought of getting the one in this review because I like the yellow and and so happy with the one I have. Kudos to Westcreek for building a budget guitar that exceeds expectations.

[@LonelyRocker]

Really good budget guitars for sure. I almost bought the DC but got this instead. I may end up grabbing one...you be seeing others here soon ;)

[@georgemobley5913]

Just saw your channel today and sir your playing is immaculate. Cool channel. Thanks.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thank you so much!! That means a lot! Hope to hear from you again on other videos. Cheers!

[@georgemobley5913]

@@LonelyRocker Definitely and thanks for the reply sir.

[@Krullmatic]

The headstock inlay is mother of pearl. I bought their Revenge, and it's just regular mop. It doesn't have all the colors in it.

[@AllanGildea]

That's a hot rod beauty. Love your studio as well. Cheers, great demo and review.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed this. Cheers!

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I really like the yellow color! Looks pretty cool

[@LonelyRocker]

It's definitely yellow! ;)

[@ginopini6484]

69 Camaro

[@revtimewest]

Great guitar made by people who enjoy what they do. They take great pride in the product they make and it shows.

[@LonelyRocker]

Lots of guitar for the money.

[@peterpellerin1374]

Yeah, I really like my DC Junior style w/p90. Baby blue. It's just great. I never tried a p90 guitar before, so, I figured for $180, (now, I've seen even lower prices), it's worth a try. And I am amazed! Just like your Racer, fit and finish is great. Playable right out of the box. So, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play it right now. Thanks. 😄

[@LonelyRocker]

I actually wanted to get the DC before I chose this one but didn't because I already have a Junior style guitar with P90s...I didn't have an SG. I'd still like to try one though....

[@thelolguy007]

Love it. Looks amazing. I’d love that finish on a Strat 🙌🤤

[@LonelyRocker]

That would be cool!!!

[@ANGELICHUMANANGEL]

BUYING ONE ASAP ....MATE YOU PLAY AWSOME GUITAR 🎸 AND THIS GUITAR REALLY SUITS YOU !...THANKS FOR THIS REVIEW 🎉...SUBBED ....REGARDS CAEN

[@LonelyRocker]

Awesome!! So glad to have you here!!

[@theshadowoftruth7561]

I have The Red Version. It is an amazing Guitar for the price. I bought it because I had a set of lonely humbucker sized P90s. I was so pleasantly Surprise at the quality of the guitar when I got it. I did put in the P90s but the humbuckers were serviceable.

[@LonelyRocker]

Totally agree. I think you made a good move swapping out the pickups. With a good setup it’s a great guitar!

[@mykhedelic6471]

None more yellow. Your tune was unexpected and kinda cool. I got one of these for $190, and I consider it a total steal. Yours is the only other one that I've seen that came with a pickup selector poker chip. I also got the matte purple one (actually got that first, it was immaculate and is one of the clearest, purest, most playable guitars I've played-- pretty damn shocking.) Nice playing.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. And I agree...very surprising for the money. Enjoy yours!

[@cactusfeo2066]

i just bought a westcreek cerberus, it was really cheap so i thought it was a good deal for a first guitar. it ships in in like a week so hopefully its good

[@LonelyRocker]

Sweeeet! Enjoy it!

[@timmackenzie8145]

Good day sir, I’m a fellow canadian guitarist who collects budget guitars because I can’t afford Gibsons. My most expensive is an Epiphone Firebird I bought at Long and McQuade for $1022 after tax. I have another Epiphone, this one much cheaper, a Les Paul Special. My only guitar that I have only one of is a Westcreek DC (double cut), their version of if a dbl cut Gibson Melody Maker had an encounter with a telecaster. Single P90 style pickup, it’s very reminiscent of Joan Jett’s main guitar, also a Gibson Melody Maker. In about 10 days, I’m driving to PEI to buy 6 more Westcreek guitars, so I’m looking forward to that. Meantime I’m having some work done on a few of my 6 Firefly guitars. All of them FFSP (Les Paul styled), 5 Elite “Bats” and a Classic. Of the 6 Westcreek’s I’m getting on the first is the yellow Racer just like yours. I like the offset body, kind of like the LTD, except the accented horn on theirs is on the top. With the bottom horn accentuated on the Racer it almost reminds me a bit of a Mosrite like Johnny Ramone played. Super cool. I’ll getting another white DC and then I’m getting 2 Revenges and 2 Cerebus 3’s.

[@LonelyRocker]

Hey fellow Canadian. That’s a lot of budget guitars!!! 😎🎸🤟🏼

[@timmackenzie8145]

@@LonelyRocker Yeah, it is. Aside from the Epiphone Les Paul Special, which I picked up in ‘22, the rest of them have been bought in the last year. I got the Firebird in September of last year, got the WestCreek DC and the Firefly yellow bat FFSP in October and those really started a buying frenzy that hasn’t seemed to have stopped yet. I’m really looking forward to the ride to the island. I haven’t been over the bridge yet, last time I went there you still needed to take the ferry. I’m looking forward to getting those guitars because I have a lot of LP styled guitars so I’m finally getting a couple of Explorer/Destroyer models and a couple of V’s. Plus the Racer and another DC, I’ll be a happy camper.

[@LonelyRocker]

Are you going for volume? You could pool the budgets of a bunch of those together and get a really good guitar!! :)

[@timmackenzie8145]

@@LonelyRocker Yeah that is true. But I’m paying so little for them I’m paying less for 6 guitars than I did for my Epiphone Firebird. Plus right now I’m inundated with lp style guitars (6 out of 11) and I wanted to pick up a coupla V’s or Explorer types and in this pile I’m getting 2 of each of those plus one of their offset sg types and my 2nd of their DC (Gibson dbl cut melody maker type). I really liked my first DC, although it’s in the shop getting a pickup upgrade (I hope). But no, I’m not going for volume it’s just worked out that way over the last year and with finding this guy on the island who just wound up with a pallet of WestCreek overstock I’m getting quite a good deal on them. I’m still going to be looking for all kinds of guitars that I’ve wanted forever so this isn’t stopping anytime soon.

[@LonelyRocker]

Have fun!

[@Wejohnsn]

i got one. purple because its my girls fav color. feels nice sounds good, the neck bends tho. i wish the frets were bigger. medium frets that seem smaller than other med jumbo frets, almost flat. the packaging is great. im keeping the box and packing because its so good. dont like the neck dive. the neck measured 25 not 25.5 or 24.75

[@LonelyRocker]

It's not perfect but can't complain for the money....

[@illyareid66]

I've wanted one since I first saw it,like the slight off shape of SG

[@LonelyRocker]

Great value for sure!

[@jms_rocker_8868]

I'm thinking about purchasing this guitar as well. because I unfortunately had to sell my 2010 Gibson SG faded Special to Guitar Center to pay some bills, so I kinda regret selling it

[@Eric-r6r]

That piece of plastic over the neck joint is called a tenon cover it's typical for SG style guitars it hides the neck tenon that joins the neck and the body

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks for the tip! Rookie SG guy here 😎

[@Raymond-rr5iv]

I heard that's the West Creek guitar that you had been playing actually has split coils. That's what they showed in another review and I wonder why you didn't mention it.

[@LonelyRocker]

I will have to go check that!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Upon further review I DO NOT see any split coil option...not in the stock config anyways....

[@yepitszochy]

I got the black and silver one. It’s an amazing instrument, but mine has microphonic pickups. I’m already planning on changing the pickups on my epiphones so this isn’t a big problem but it kinda sucks since I play this guitar live.

[@LonelyRocker]

I’ve been thinking of swapping out the pickups and mine seem fine. Good pickups in that guitar could really make it worthy.

[@yepitszochy]

@@LonelyRocker I’m thinking of a DiMarzio super distortion in the bridge and a Tone Zone in the neck

[@LonelyRocker]

Sounds like it could rip!

[@Krystof.Veritae]

Cool Looking axe ....any neck dive while standing ? .....just curious most SG guitars have a neck heavy thing going

[@LonelyRocker]

Funny...I never tried it with a strap until I read this comment. So I tried it. Yes, it seems to pull a but but I have a textured strap that doesn't slip so that seemed to combat that. I generally play sitting down in my studio so rarely notice these things ;)

[@Krystof.Veritae]

@@LonelyRocker thank you mate ….. yeah I only play upright standing 99% time either with the band or shows or tracking that’s how I learned to play lol can’t play sitting down just awkward to me haha but thanks sir

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure!! I used to only play standing up too but since I became a studio rat sitting down became a necessity! ;)

[@KT-Buf69]

First time here. Curious if you've tried Harley Benton

[@LonelyRocker]

Welcome!!! I actually never have. But I would like to try them.

[@snuffman5497]

i payed 160 on ebay for this guitar. wish it would have been red and black thats my only complaint or possibly natural wood finish

[@LonelyRocker]

Great deal!!

[@ascw1991]

What is the weight on these like? I really love light guitars (6-7 lbs) and want to know of this is that light I dont mind neck dive at all either

[@LonelyRocker]

I don’t have it in front of me but it’s probably around there. Certainly not super heavy.

[@westie2222]

Love mine!!!!!

[@LonelyRocker]

Sweeet!

[@JesseWhite-h5l]

Has anyone found a good hard case for this? I recently acquired this ax, and it's kind of my new favorite!

[@LonelyRocker]

Any case that would suit an SG will work for this...as long as it's not a custom molded one...

[@GE0-1971]

Great video review of the Racer. I have 2 Racers and one 333. Does anyone kmow if the Racers definitely have Alnico pickups and if so Alnico 2 or 5's. I have No idea how to tell the differences. It sounds Warmer than my Ceramic pickup guitars. But, I'm half deaf and would like to know form someone who has better ears. Thanks in Advance.

[@LonelyRocker]

Thanks!! I have no information whatsoever on the pickups. Westcreek's details are not clear. I'm working on a video for another Westcreek guitar right now and there just aren't enough details available...

[@GE0-1971]

Gotcha. Thanks for the reply. If I figure it out, I'll put it on here somewhere. Just ordered another Bumble Bee Racer (you vid convinced me) for me this time. Last one my daughter took. Prime Day sale $175 (USA). I have the Matte Black Racer (thinner neck) and the 333. Wanted the Helios, but not avail now. My 1st guitar was a 70's Gibson SG. Probably why I like the Racers so much. And, I can be more aggressive with them. Don't wanna beat the hell outta my Gibson. Again thanks and I'm looking forward to the next vid. Have a Good One.

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

I just noticed they have a model called Double Trouble. Double neck 12/6 string. $339 😮

[@LonelyRocker]

Yep!! Stay tuned to this channel :)

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

@@LonelyRocker I might have to get one just for the Alex Lifeson angle. Can’t wait. 👍

[@LonelyRocker]

My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂

[@peterloy8904]

So does Apple and evert tv etc..

[@williamduckworth305]

I kinna like it

[@LonelyRocker]

Yes, it kind of grows on you ;)))

[@jordimateubartroli951]

An SG and a Mosrite had a son.

[@LonelyRocker]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jordimateubartroli951]

@@LonelyRocker Hey, I like its shape more than the ESP Viper.

[@LonelyRocker]

Yes! Kind of!

[@johnp.johnson1541]

With that 3 x 3, Does that G string stay in tune for long?

[@LonelyRocker]

The angle is not as severe as a Gibson. Tuning stability will be possibly affected by a few potential things on a budget guitar. Watching this video back I noticed my tuning got a little dodgey in a couple of places. But so far it’s been pretty good.

[@johnp.johnson1541]

Thanks for the reply and your time, @@LonelyRocker

[@LonelyRocker]

My pleasure!!!

[@-processdrone-]

I am so glad they don't make them in red or purple, if they did I'd end up buying it just because it's such a great body shape... I have enough guitars.

[@LonelyRocker]

I believe they do come in red and purple ;) Red for sure. I've seen matte black and blue too....

[@ROOKTABULA]

​@@LonelyRockerCan't find any red ones I can get my hands on. Luckily.

[@eertje01]

Does it neck dive?

[@LonelyRocker]

Just tested it. With a strap that grips a little not at all. With a smooth strap it does a little but it's not bad...Sitting down, as I play it, none at all ;)))))))

[@eertje01]

Thanks for your reply! Im seriously thinking a out buying this one. I have a coronet which is a little neck divey, as long as it's manageable it's ok 😊

[@LonelyRocker]

@eertje01 my pleasure! If you get it let me know what you think!

[@wagonet]

Is the scale length 24.75?

[@LonelyRocker]

Yes, I believe so....

[@Streamertail]

Well. This bonehead bird bought one while the price was still lowered further by a certificate. My WestCreek Helios. (Riff-Raff as I call her) she is a perfect modding platform. I thought. Well. If it looks like a mix of a Epi Prophecy and more odd ESP design. So a new set of knobs, a new bridge, and certainly new pups. I see the bones on her being epic. But a little time tinkering will make her roar (To be honest. Isn't this why we guitarists get into modding in the first place. These Amazon Guitars are what we called the 'Pick n Pull' ideals. We found something that has good bones. But a little wrench time can make these "Sleepers" shine)

[@LonelyRocker]

It's a long game...the odd over spending will happen....as long as the main structure of these guitars are solid, they are definitely great mod guitars....

[@Streamertail]

(update) Im surprised at Wilkinson. Or really. Most musiclily parts. Tho ill likely be using their pups to replace the ones on my WestCreek Helios

[@walllo3965]

Where i can find it?!

[@LonelyRocker]

Search for it on Amazon. But I don’t know what country you are in. It may not be available everywhere. Ive also seen some on Reverb.

[@walllo3965]

@@LonelyRocker i live in mexico! Maybe you can tell me the name of the model pls?

[@LonelyRocker]

I said it in the video. WestCreek Racer.

[@anthonydavella8350]

My guess? Slave wages. Great playing!

[@LonelyRocker]

Ha maybe 😂. Thanks!!!

[@anthonydavella8350]

@@LonelyRocker hope not

[@LonelyRocker]

Me too ;) Guitar would have to go....

[@the_panos]

Funny you should say that, there's a photo making the rounds right now from a Fender worker showing that the factory they work at (in the US) is offering less for a head guitar technician and luthier position than the Panda express near the factory is offering for a base server. And Panda Express don't pay above the average.

[@anthonydavella8350]

@@the_panos isnt the min wage 15/hr in California?

[@bluwng]

Why do we all say name brand as if it matters. What if it did have a Name a Name with no noteriety or quality control, would it be better?

[@LonelyRocker]

Name brand implies a guitar you know for reference. It doesn't mean necessarily better...

[@GreatPlanet-c7o]

A guitar as nice as that is all most Boomers actually need. If you play at home, it's perfect.

[@LonelyRocker]

It does the job! :)

[@alexcorona]

It’s just cost of labor, they can pay them basically nothing overseas. While here they have to pay at least minimum wage, which is 8 times what they make in Asian countries.

[@hartlee1160]

You don't need a band to rock and roll

[@LonelyRocker]

Amen!!!!!!

[@BeeRumblin13]

Those pickups sound terrible

[@LonelyRocker]

The guitar is under 300 bucks...hard to be too critical...but this guitar would certainly improve with new pickups...

[@ROOKTABULA]

Hate to be a buzzkill but sadly, this price _has_ to be subsidized by near-slave-labour wages and conditions for the workers.

[@LonelyRocker]

I didn’t want to say anything 😷😷😷

[@bluwng]

How would you know? Did you visit the factory?

[@brianpark492]

Ìts called a cnc machine .No slave Labour.

[@bluwng]

@@brianpark492 good answer.

[@russellcrotts5881]

There is always one of these comments or person on every video! It’s very annoying!! Who cares I’m not having to pay for what they put them through! It’s not on my shoulders so shut the up

[@bluwng]

You are so suspicious.

[@LonelyRocker]

How so?

[@bluwng]

@LonelyRocker you assume to many negative things concerning design aspects and manufacturabilty of the product. I know these things and can easily tell you don't. Don't speculate then broadcast and opinion you can hurt a companies reputation unwittingly. It's not you the internet is uncontrolled and given free license for people to speak freely about things they don't understand without thinking about others or the repercussions.