What About Coffee, Tea, and Caffeine on a Keto/Carnivore Diet?

[@SteakmanTexas]

Dr Chaffee’s encouragement to get rid of 100% of plants is a great idea. I’m 61 and I get up every day this week and run 10 miles and eat only beef and eggs. I quit coffee9 months ago. I feel great.

[@SteakmanTexas]

@trevorsmith7753 carnivore diet is the fountain of youth

[@denisedecker7330]

I was off coffee two years and went back. Hate it but am having a difficult time kicking again while working. Don't cheat! Congratulations.

[@SteakmanTexas]

@@denisedecker7330 I know the feeling. Sometimes I would like to go back to coffee. I’ve just decided that I’m not going to be addicted to anything. I like my freedom. I don’t have to work and plan for my daily fix.

[@denisedecker7330]

@@SteakmanTexas good way to think of it IMO. One of the best feelings I had was when I could be more spontaneous with my life because I had quit smoking cigarettes. I lived a few houses from a park, but I couldn't go from playing in the yard with the kids to walking down to the park without making sure I had a pack of cigarettes with me. Love the freedom and knowing that during a zombie apocalypse I won't die from not having a certain substance.

[@SteakmanTexas]

@@denisedecker7330 zombies are afraid of carnivores 🥩

[@alexjaljl]

So refreshing to hear a keto carnivore advocate saying get rid of coffee I was puzzled as to why so many keto gurus are caffeine addicts 😊

[@Realogn]

Still craving something sweet 😂

[@Neutron311]

keto gurus are also calorie counter thats the reason

[@QuickSticks8771]

You said it cos they’re addicts

[@Deanriley]

I listened to this again as podcast during my workout this morning; I’m a Harvard grad and I’ve never bought the Harvard Health/Walter Willet craziness. I was sad to hear the whole university/alums dismissed as closed minded; granted I’m a senior citizen of an earlier era, but I learned to be open minded in college. Btw, after a lifetime of drinking coffee, decaf since 1990, I’ve given up coffee for the next 30 days to see how it affects my soreness after workout and golf.

[@laaradee]

Darn ! Coffee was/is my last item ….I figured out carbs gave me crippling pain….coffee too ! I’m going to do hot water in a dark brown cup……pain is a great motivator !

[@anthonychaffeemd]

Yes it is! Haha hot water and a brown cup sounds like a great idea! You can also try homemade beef broth as well with no additives and that can be a nice warming liquid which can be quite soothing as a replacement

[@laaradee]

@@anthonychaffeemd this is such a traumatic change- my entire kitchen is now a threat- I’m throwing out and giving away stuff- though that seems criminal….I’m afraid I was one of those ….’live to eat ‘ people…..now to become an ‘eat to live’ person…..GET OUTTA THE KITCHEN…..NOW !

[@cynicist8114]

Homemade bone broth from beef or chicken bones can be a good hot substitute.

[@cdub1210]

😂

[@lynnmcdonald3401]

@@anthonychaffeemdthat is a fantastic idea thank you!!!!

[@tinawoodell1957]

I stopped it all a week ago. Finally I can turn over in bed and walk down my steps without chronic pain. Coffee, caffeine, sugar, carbs, and alcohol. Done with it all!!

[@chuckrogers5567]

Bold move.

[@Sammyboy2598]

Carbs are good but you just need the right type

[@YO-gn5ib]

What is your age? I am 43 and am having just that ... need to cut the rest which is hard

[@tinawoodell1957]

@@YO-gn5ib 67

[@DyIanJZ]

It's carb addiction most people struggle with. People build high tolerance and want more and more and more. ​@@Sammyboy2598

[@gonenh2]

I stopped drinking coffee a half year ago, and my health improved a lot; my triglyceride was still over 100 when I was drinking coffee and doing Keto carnivore, and when I stopped with the coffee, it went down to under 80, my digestive track improved significantly, I was suffering from inner hemorrhoids with bleeding & ulcer colitis, and it resolved with 95% carnivore, a little bit Kimchi, kefir, Berries, and No Coffee!!!

[@eatdafat7101]

I see the same response with coffee and trig levels. If I drink coffee up to a blood draw they come in at 180+, but if I’m off coffee they come back at 90. I’m off coffee now.

[@Damudean]

I stopped for 2 months about 4 months ago. I don’t know why I started back. But every day I always wanted a coffee

[@Doridoesthings]

Wow. It's amazing how different people are. I've drank coffee my whole life (I'm 41) and my triglycerides are at 70

[@gonenh2]

@@Doridoesthings I first heard about it on Dave Feldman's website; they said 25% of people will have elevated triglycerides from coffee. I tried a few times on, off, on, off, and my triglycerides around doubled with coffee, but a few years ago, it was not a problem.

[@johnny7808]

though its a known fact that across the population an increase triglycerides from say 80 to 120 is an increase in risk, it is not a known fact that among healthy people who have the same trig increase due to nothing but coffee intake, that such an increase represents an increase in risk. Its never been studied. Trigs are generally a marker for metabolic health, which decreased in the first group but not the second group.

[@awakenyogavt]

So glad I listened to this. I just gave up coffee this week and I’m already noticing that I can’t seem to get sore from being very physical. It’s crazy! Inflammation in my tummy is decreasing fast and once the headaches were gone after the first 2 days I’m noticing I feel really amazing! Moods are great too!

[@cwilliam2994]

There is hope for me ;) thx for sharing

[@kubasniak]

And the sleep is deeper and satisfying too.

[@lifeonthesloop]

Any updates after three months?😃

[@Adventure5619]

I quit all caffeine a year ago. Improvements. No more headaches! No more groggy feeling in the morning. Not heading to the bathroom every hour. Sleep improved I am hybrid carnivore as I do use cheeses with less lactose / garlic powder and white pepper. Time to time hot sauce for chicken wings. Lost 50 lbs in a year maintaining a healthy weight. Just started the gym this Feb to try and tight loose skin already seeing muscle def. I have had 0 cheat days for caffeine or carbs in the past year. Wish I would of tried carnivore a long long time ago!! 6’2 181 lbs right now trying to get to my college weight of 175lbs. I am 44.

[@pirkkarannali]

I used to think that coffee is good and gives me more energy. I felt the right energy only when I started carnivore and stopped coffee.

[@heatherclark8668]

I need to watch videos like this every day to keep me on the straight and narrow

[@CarnivoreNerd]

Just when I thought Dr. Chaffee couldn't get any better, he quotes Thomas Sowell and his parents' love of critical thinking. I'm hooked!

[@Cyclone546]

Damn you’re good looking! Are you doing carnivore?

[@paulwooton4390]

Sowell, yes!

[@devaapurna608]

Also Chaffee quotes Marcus Aurelius.💖

[@Christinesobsevations]

I love the way st Chaffee says *you can just stop drinking it * That shows the mental strength attitude & fortitude . Yes , it’s truly that simple , but NOT easy . I quit smoking in. July 2019 & all I did was just STOP . It was hard for the first few days . 4.5 yrs later …I haven’t lit a single cigarette . I clung harder to my coffee as I also quit sugar , junk food , bad habits , night snacking , so I lie to myself and say this is all I have left it’s my mind lying to me . I’m currently on half caff strictly before noon only . Been on coffe since my aunt used to take me to work at Dunkin’ Donuts back when they wore skirts & had glass mugs . I unknowingly started my caffeine addiction at age 9 but started *needing it* in my 20s.

[@Oakleylaurie]

I stopped coffee in the beginning because I was tired of being addicted. Such freedom in this WOE.

[@ketoman4057]

Simon asking the right questions and Anthony giving the right answers, love this format. This one is a real eye opener and I have finally decided to drop the decaf coffee and decaf tea. Tomorrow is meat + salt + water ONLY day! Dr. Chaffey keep up the great work, you have a great way of communicating and sharing your experiences. One of the best, if not the best, Carnivore mentors out there.

[@PureTruth]

Dr Chaffee is so thoroughly intelligent and, more importantly, knows how I feel. It is no exaggeration to type that he may have saved my life with his content

[@Mhel2023]

59f, stopped drinking and drugs 21 years ago, stopped cigs 18 years ago I'm not on any medications, don't take any vitamins, weight train and cardio 5-6x a week I'm on carnivore, I drink a big cup of coffee with heavy cream every morning Damn, that's all I have left Dr.... please, let me live!! ☕😂😭😬🤣 ☕ Love your channel btw keep up the great work

[@shasa8223]

LIve your life girl! Congrats on the huge life accomplishments!!

[@jennieeklov]

Stopped drunking coffee christmas 2021, I feel so much better, together with the carnivore diet its a powerful health change. So many things have improved, stamina,no depression and anxiety. Decision making so much better, also feeling more calm and at ease..30kg gone on the carnivore diet. It gave my life back.

[@RV-there-Yet]

Amazing wins Jenny🎈🤸‍*I love the calmness & clarity~ depression & anxiety have gone for me as well. I'm so grateful to feel this good!

[@AnnabellaRedwood]

I think drinking tea is much better than coffee. Tea seems more gentle than coffee. I don't drink tea every day. I've never been a coffee drinker. I just love my steak, I love my keto carnivore life. I've just been able to go off of blood pressure medication. Woo! I had to go to the hospital as I've had low blood pressure. It's shocking that six weeks of eating 700 grams to 1 kg of steak has enabled me to get off of my medication. The doctor I saw was very impressed with my blood sugar levels. I'm in thy way to reversing diabetes. I'm so excited. ❤😁💪🥩❤

[@LifeIsWonderful675]

I am trying these different diets to stop seizures started through a head injury in 2005. For 2 month I have stopped dairy, fruit, veg's, coffee & tea along with stopping alcohol 8 months ago as the low carb diet I was on for 3 months at the end of 2022 did not help. My hair has been falling badly over the last 2 months but I have only been eating red meat, lamb, seafood, bacon & eggs. I have heard other Drs saying not everyone like Dr Chaffee can stay on carnivore forever. I have been advised to add avocado, cheese & yogurt, especially if you do not want to loose weight like most who are doing this diet. What do you have with your steaks regarding keto?

[@joeberrouard3743]

@@LifeIsWonderful675 have you tried a typical keto diet? I know for seizures related to epilepsy the key is being in ketosis which the carnivore diet doesn’t focus on and most likely will not have you in as deep of a state of ketosis

[@LifeIsWonderful675]

@@joeberrouard3743 I did start a low carb diet for 3 months & stopped in Dec 22 because it was not working, a Naturopath had me on meat, lots of veg's, a high protein shake a day with almond milk plus I was still drinking tea daily & coffee with Almond milk. Bart Kay told me Almond milk & the shake were poison so I stopped, I started a consultation with him as I thought he could help me with the exact diet but I have never finished the consult as he seems too busy. I thought of Dr Chaffee because of the seizures but he is strict Carnivore & I don't know if its sustainable for everyone. I have only just done testing with the urine strips the last few days but someone said blood test is best, not sure why they make the urine test if it doesn't work. Someone said Dr Berry's wife's diet is more Keto where as he seems more Carnivore.

[@joeberrouard3743]

@@LifeIsWonderful675 Dr.Berry’s wife seems good or maybe Kelly Hogan. I’m not sure what your low carb diet consisted of but I would try a diet with typical keto foods like meat, butter, eggs, avocado, & olive oil shooting for 150-200g of fat 60-80g of protein and 20g or less of carbs. If this is similar to what you tried then never mind and I hope you find something that works!

[@tracyd2598]

Beware of the oxalates in tea...

[@silvamaney8897]

I quit coffee 2 weeks ago after listening to you and others. Greetings from Malaysia and God bless you. I hope you will do podcast for strict carnivores yet blood sugars in 110.

[@patrycja2696]

I had that problem until I decided to try high fat. Now my morning glucose is around 70,80! Maybe for where I'm metabolically I needed to lower protein intake. I eat 20% kcal from protein, rest fat. Ones my HOMA IR goes down from current 1.6 to around 1, my a1c from current 5.4, 5.5 to 5.2 or less I might go up with protein because I exercise a lot and want to build muscle mass. (Female 43yo, athletic slim)

[@Yunchiyunchi]

@@patrycja2696 May I please ask what your typical day of eating looks like? I really dont like eating butter and I cant see how to otherwise get so much fat in when doing high fat carnivore.

[@patrycja2696]

@@Yunchiyunchi 176 cm, 60 kg, I need around 2000 kcal. 20% protein 400 kcal is 100 grams of protein. I calculate that in meats I eat. Top it up with "broth" which is hot water over beef fat. First week I had runns but ones bacteria adjusted I'm fine. No shits whatsoever,smoothe poop. I eat fatty cuts of beef, steaks burgers mince- 20% fat, stricky bacon, sausages, pork, chicken,lamb, cod, salmon, mackerel, other meats. Occasional liver, mussels, wgga

[@daveben3573]

About 95% carnivore but love my coffee. A pleasure that I have no intention of giving up and especially enjoy the social side of meeting for coffees with friends etc. On occasions due to travelling etc I go without it with no issues. Also can enjoy it late at night and sleep like a baby. We all have different detox abilities for different toxins and the modern world exposes us daily to many most of which are much less enjoyable and potentially more harmful. We all have to live our lives and make choices on these issues and keep some perspective. My 3 coffee a day habit probably less significant to my health than my days as a carb guzzling low fat junkie! Other prominent carnivores in the community such as Ken Berry and Amber O'Hearn also enjoy their coffee - there is room for all of us.

[@shar7508]

I think Ken berry just quit coffee

[@unknown-vo3di]

I struggle to sleep at night with a coffee in the morning. However had to lower caffeine dose. Using it mainly for fat loss. (Yes even on carnivore diet) I can eat a lot of meat and stall

[@karenohanlon4183]

If there is no adverse effects surely 2 wee baby cups of coffee are ok?

[@Victoria2K]

Refreshing! I am the same.

[@oletimer5853]

Me too !!!

[@livinglifeleona]

I took the plunge and cut it out. It’s not as bad as I thought. Bone broth in the morning gives me the same “high” just a little less intense. I can live with it.

[@annegajerski-cauley8324]

7 weeks since I have given up tea ( for the oxalates and tannins) and switched to decaf coffee. Will try to get off decaf soon!

[@metal7core]

Watching this while sipping a cup of coffee 😂I never experience any of those problems. I train heavy and, tough I do feel some soreness after, it's so mild.. kinda I like it even, if ever becomes a problem I will dich it but so far so good. Note: Im 41, keto/carnivore for the last 5 years, best condition of my life.

[@metal7core]

@@gamingtemplar9893 oh yeah? So you are the author of the carnivore enciclopedia? Ok cool bro.. Im doing a new diet, is called "carnivore + coffee" TM

[@dawnstrohm6982]

@@metal7core you touched a nerve in the "Carnivore Police Squad"! Some of these people are real nut jobs!

[@akbananachucker2441]

@@metal7core the point is that it's messing up your progress. Your body knows it's a poison and it takes energy and resources that it could use for muscle building ect. So you are already passed 40 and it's been proven that anything passed 30 makes it harder to gain muscles like before so your progress. Sin e when is it great to take poisons and build muscle? You are stuck in the mind set that one coffee is good for you but in fact none of it is good for you. And you are missing gains. Time is ticking and you don't have much time left before you get no gains 😂

[@mp7925]

@@gamingtemplar9893 Technically this is true about carnivore still sugar and carbs are light years from coffee & tea "problem". I'm Carnivore+coffee+tea :-) for past 3 and half years. However still trying to decrease coffee (and tea) as my stomach is not at top with. And yes, from time to time love taste of coconut oil, olive oil, .... which I have mostly replaced with lard.

[@OrthodoxBeards]

@@mp7925 I mean, how dare you not be a purist? Don't you know that this is all about labels and not what actually works for you? If you want to be in the super special club, you have to do the exact same thing as everyone else 🤣🤣🙄🙄 You can pry my coffee and heavy cream, my last vice, out of my cold dead hands... as someone who gave up smoking and drinking and if that means I don't get to be a carnivore, so be it.

[@matthewsumner1925]

Have to agree. I eat a 95% carnivore diet (minus a little avocado and berries here and there). I haven’t given up caffeine yet, but coffee causes me a ton of digestive distress yet I still go back to it like a drug addict. It doesn’t even make me feel good anymore. I’m trying to stop so hopefully it will happen soon

[@Christinesobsevations]

My stomach loathes coffee . The addiction wins . I’m so over it already . I’ve got to stop

[@Sam_splatter]

Here’s how I did it. Every week decrease the amount you have. I went from 12 oz cup every morning to 10 oz to 8 oz and so on. After a few weeks you can just stop

[@jenniferibarra7737]

I work at a coffee shop it’s the hardest thing to do . But I tell my self “ I don’t drink coffee “ and it makes me strict

[@missmjl2468]

Oh no. Since Jan 1st 2023, I have given up alcohol, dairy sugar, and all grains. As of yesterday i am kicking the plants, but coffee too 😮 i drink a fair bit of black coffee and never thought that would play a part in my chronic pain levels. Now that is very motivating!

[@TerriblePerfection]

I never understand why some people, including Dr. Chaffee, insist that coffee tastes bad! I easily gave up caffeinated coffee because I drink it for the flavor, not the caffeine. I've also given up the decaf many times just to see how I feel. No change...so decaf, with a big spoonful of butter, is remaining part of my morning routine for now.

[@anthonychaffeemd]

Of course taste is subjective, and some people enjoy the taste of coffee certainly. It's usually an acquired taste though, as it's generally quite bitter, which most people don't like at first. But if you like it and don't feel a difference in your health and by all means go for it!

[@j.p.8305]

I still drink decaf coffee as well, I tend to lean toward the most full-bodied coffees at that. I wonder if I quit and came back if I'd still enjoy it. I used to drink alcohol pretty regularly in my 20s and would have to do beer tastings for work and pick out the different notes and after not drinking for 4 years I can't stand the taste of it and I think they all taste the same. 🤔

[@TerriblePerfection]

@@j.p.8305 Tastes do change. Sometimes I wonder if it's more psychological than physiological. When I was vegetarian, I made elaborate salads that tasted delicious to me, pairing salty with sweet, making homemade dressing and croutons, etc. Now I'm mostly carnivore and don't even miss them, but only because I believe they aren't healthy. If new evidence proved that to be false, I would undoubtedly enjoy them again. But no more kale. Those spiky, tough leaves are truly inedible!

[@gribbler1695]

It's great in the form of chocolate coated coffee beans, otherwise it's foul, like beer.

[@sweetgrl4JC]

@@TerriblePerfection I agree! When I ate salads I would do the same thing! All the different flavor tones I liked. But because of the research that it is not good for you, and also how I felt after eating most vegetables was the change for me.

[@pkjm2616]

I've about had enough of eczema that I started scouring youtube and searched "natural ways to heal eczema" and the videos that intrigued me were from your channel, as well as Dr. Shawn Baker, Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Paul Saladino, and Judy Cho. Coffee is the only thing I haven't given up. Today will be day 1 of no coffee :(. Coffee is something I've had daily for years and I haven't been ready til today. Day 13 of carnivore and day 6 of no medication (rinvoq), but itchiness and eczema remain on hands and also itchiness on face. Hoping giving up the coffee will improve those areas.

[@anthonychaffeemd]

I hope so as well! Be as close to red meat and water as possible for best results, and the hands down best moisturizer for your skin is animal fats such as tallow or emu/ostrich oil. Good luck with it!

[@lifeonthesloop]

Can we get an update since you quit coffee?😃

[@jorambler]

I’ve been following the carnivore diet for about a month and I used to have severe scalp itchiness. I would also get random rashes all over my body. Since being carnivore, the scalp itchiness has reduced so much and dandruff is not as bad! I’m going to try to go for another 2 months.

[@RosellaHomecare]

pkjm2616, Have you removed other toxins from your home like mould, cooking pots & pans, skin, toxic people, stress, bedlinen, clothes, air, water, are you on any medication, are you getting pasture raised cheap cuts of meat?, any childhood trauma etc,..

[@chandlerarmstrong7003]

@@RosellaHomecareVery important topics that aren’t commonly discussed these days as far as optimizing health goes.

[@FEARISLIAR]

I truly enjoyed this video..I have to stop with the tea and I really enjoy my loose tea leaves however, I know I have to get caffeine out of my system. I’m much older than these guys I can’t even imagine but I know it will be much better for me in the long run and in the short run!

[@anthonychaffeemd]

Well thank you very much I'm glad you enjoyed it! Yeah it's worth coming off at least for a month or so and just see the difference it makes. I have found it's quite significant myself, and most others do as well.

[@magichappenswithyou]

WOW! I had no idea that caffeine would bring back aches and pains in the body. So much we are not told about the harmful effects of caffeine and the so-called 'healthy foods'. Thank you gentlemen for an enlightening conversation.

[@1Hope4All]

Has that happened to you? Have you eliminated the caffeine and then brought it back only to bring you aches and pains on your body? Because if you have not experienced that, it might not happen to you. Everybody's different. What happens to Dr. Anthony Chaffee might not happen to you.

[@notofthisworld5998]

I don't think it's the caffeine. Probably some of the thousands of compounds in the plant itself

[@shasa8223]

I cannot say enough how glad I am to have found you. Thank you a million times over.

[@mrcvsmth9515]

Shout out for Thomas Sowell! You will learn more about how to think in one book of Sowell's than four years at college.

[@shaynaboyce68]

I gave up caffeine and I'm never looking back - feel great!

[@vonitaesse4307]

Yesterday was my first day without coffee. Is this madness? I produce extreme amounts of histamine when under stress, and very little is needed to set me off. Under my calm demeanour a storm is always brewing. Will I be able today to handle the coffee smell in the house this morning and from my husband’s cup? As I lay still half asleep I contemplate the beginning of this day with very little hope and a cringe on my face. What else can I do to heal my histamine intolerance? I have tried everything I can think of without much success. Even eating a carnivore diet was such a challenge but I can proudly say that at least I conquered that hurdle and I have no more sweet cravings. Let’s hope I can manage the coffee as well.

[@emilianozapata175]

Hoping your husband survives the withdrawal 😉😜

[@stayfree6115]

More sex helps

[@n.a.garciafamily]

Perhaps look at no plants gaps diet ❤ it focuses on gut healing ❤

[@ketoman4057]

Side note. I can say in my experience that caffeine is nasty because it stresses your adrenals more than you realise and overworks the kidney. Since the kidney plays a role in metabolizing insulin dropping caffeine will help lower high blood sugar...

[@jenniferibarra7737]

I can attest It gives me a crazy peeing problem and the kidneys connect to bladder.

[@ketoman4057]

@@jenniferibarra7737 Yes that is my experience too. Zero coffee is best but if you have it, try to limit it as much as possible and try half a dose instead of a full dose, and only one early morning coffee, then drink plenty of water the rest of the day.

[@cw1617]

Fascinating! Thanks for this input. This well summarizes what I’ve been seeing lately.

[@ManuelDP95]

I've been listening to you for months now Dr. Chaffee and I've come to think of eliminating the plant based food is akin to unlocking the full power and capabilities of our genetic code, as opposed to perma-nerffing ourselves via plant consumption. It's as we literally level up.

[@Choosenamelater]

I like your thinking!

[@maricamaas2326]

Also have been considering to employ carnivore for possible healing benefits, yet still not able to give up all of my favourite plant foods, which I believe, are also keeping the microbes satisfied 😅 The concept - clearly established through Weston Price's research - of 'NOT ONE DIET FOR ALL', also makes good sense... Some really do better when consuming more animal products. Others though, do better on a predominantly plant based diet, while there also are those of us who thrive on a mixed, balanced diet. Also, in principle: Would it not be best for one to become metabolically flexible, with the ability to fluctuate between burning ketones and glucose for energy?

[@hugoanderkivi]

​@@maricamaas2326 No evidence for what you are saying. Carnivore is compatible with our physiology; veganism, vegetarianism, and omnivorism is not. It's rather simple.

[@e-money.]

Been on carnivore for a year and a half I didn't take in any caffeine for the past 390 days. Randomly decided to just have a cup of green tea matcha. Had the exact same thing happen to me. Just woke up and my entire body is stiff/sore and my energy is even worse than before, not worth it.

[@PhoenixTTD]

Good information and thoughts. I watched this while eating a skillet of 1.25 lbs. of beef heart with some butter.

[@janbeck7989]

I've just taken the carnivore challenge mainly for weight loss. Thank you for answering these questions. Thank you for reminding me of the "end game". Coffee and herbal teas are my last vice. I'll pry that cup out of my hand soon.

[@Christinesobsevations]

Same here and I had many vices I gave up . Too many . I remember the day I gave up sugar free gum . It didn’t affect me at all . Cigarettes, sugar , grain , snacks , all gone . I’m down to meat & water & coffee

[@LivelyEliza]

Right there with you, buddy. I'm trying to reverse aging and fix loose skin with green tea, but if it's in my way, or just a roundabout method, I'll drop it.

[@MrCEO-1]

Herbal tea shouldn’t be an issue at all.. green tea has caffeine, black tea has caffeine, coffee obvious, but herbal tea is purely good for you

[@lisagayhart2482]

I stopped tea and only drink it at moms. Every time I visit my shoulder hurts. Makes sense now

[@nursetammy6470]

The ads on your videos (for me) are for WakeMed Hospital bypass weight-loss surgery! I have NEVER researched this surgery. As an RN, I have taken care of those pts post-op and its not pretty. I'd rather stay fat if surgery was my only option. KZbin algorithms are crazy. I'm a couple months carnivore and feel great. The chain on the scale is broken and it stays in the bathroom linen closet. I think we quit "listening " to our body's signals and rely too much on numbers no matter which diagnostic data it comes from. It is a new sense of freedom to eat when we are hungry and drink when we are thirsty. I recently found your channel and appreciate the knowledge you share. Thank you!

[@steveglobaltraveler3480]

Excellent discussion. Much more valuable info beyond just the coffee subject. Thanks again!

[@rachelwalters2775]

I loved this episode- very helpful hearing about burning energy and exercise as well. I love you “pure” message every time. Thank you.

[@hardlogic3046]

I had cut out all caffeine starting this week but out of curiosity I did the experiment and had some caffeinated beverage yesterday (friday). I am now sore AF (saturday morning) despite working out on monday, tuesday, thursday and friday. Caffeine indeed is a pesticide, and pure caffeine tastes so bitter it's disgusting. Not to mention that without it, my energy levels are good enough not to mention consistent throughout the day so I don't need a boost or a pick me up to help me get through a day's work.

[@Mukasa1964]

I have had 1 sip of Coffee in the last 50 days. Once you get off then it's not as hard as it seems. I thought that I would never be able to say that.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

except when you smell it from other ppl brewing coffee around it's always about eradicating chances and temptation from your living environment not everybody can leave it easily especially when removing so many other things defined as pleasure in life

[@drirene57]

If you do drink decaf coffee, make sure you get water-decaffeinated; regular decaf uses chemicals to decaffeinate the coffee.

[@TempleoftheDarkPartsoftheMind]

I'm not a heavy coffee drinker so I really don't rely on it to get me through the day. I've not noticed any stiffness or soreness whether I am drinking it or not. As far as bitter? Well that really depends on the type of coffee and how you make it. I had a great cup in Portland and talked to the shop owner about their process which allowed me to dial in my process where it's never bitter. It's all a personal choice. If coffee makes you feel bad then don't drink it. That being said I've taken some time off from my morning coffee to see how it affects my next blood panel so maybe that will make me rethink how much I drink. Now giving up alcohol really made an impact on how I feel in general so staying away from that is very noticeable.

[@brandi6591]

I’ve been trying to quit coffee for months because I know it isn’t good for me, I can feel it. Dr Chaffee and Dr Baker are really helping me see.

[@JB-gq3or]

This topic is very needed. Some people have been experiencing palpitations, heavy chest syndrome, anxiety, teeth grinding still while being on Carnivore. Once they eliminate the caffeine their symptoms go away.

[@MoTMarine]

I love this video. I am so glad that he mentioned the caffeine pills and that it’s a better option than drinking the coffee. I personally stopped drinking coffee and started taking caffeine pills and was curious as to which one was better. Thank you Doctor Chaffee

[@dennisbauer3315]

Hi Anthony, coffee would not let me become fat adapted, Gall Bladder taken out approx 12 years ago, and again, was vegan vegetarian since the mid 80's, since April 2017 first low carb, for 3 years, then keto, then since June 21 therapeutic keto, cancer, refuse standard of care, until I can find the right oncologist been carnivore for 15 months with slight digression of some Macadamia nuts., It took a while to find out, with testing, coffee would not let me fat adapt, any fat would turn to water, T7 and coffee causes severe leg cramps, I would stop coffee for a few weeks, the fat adaption was slow, but the cramps went within the third day of thereabouts of stopping coffee, Now without coffee I can eat pure fat, pork, lamb, beef, on its own, without diarrhoea. Although the stomach still has issues. I had butter this morning in hope of moving bowels, : ) before I get too constipated, and it hurts, so we have a bit of seesawing going on, but learning how to regulate it. Also sent a $thanks hope it shows up when video starts. I also put this in chat, no sure if it will show up there either.

[@jimj1889]

Dennis I enjoyed reading your post; I've been of regular coffee, but occasionally have a small decaf kind of a social thing at a coffee shop, anyway your comment on leg cramps caught my attention, I used to get them terrible but never connected it with coffee, I have been cramp free for awhile now, however I was out of town yesterday and stopped at a coffee shop to kill time and I had a large decaf, this morning I had a leg cramp, I thought my electrolytes were off, but now I think it was the large decaf. Thanks for sharing I really learned something.

[@garnettasmith1717]

@@jimj1889, this is helpful. I have leg cramps most nights and thought it was an electrolyte imbalance. I’ve stopped drinking coffee past noon, but it may be time to totally eliminate it!

[@Damudean]

I had the trouble with the bowel movements for 5 months never constipation thou I did have 5 -7 days of no movement but those times it was normal or diarrhea. I found I needed to reduce my hit fat intake and have most cold if needed

[@akbananachucker2441]

What does he mean it turned into water?

[@mp7925]

Thanks for posting experience. Despite carnivore works miracles indeed, one have to accept some damage to stomach lining (like mine heavily scarred, confirmed by biopsy), damaged colon thanks to heavy load of "healthy" fiber over decades), .... is permanent. But can still improve. Staying carnivore for the rest of my life.

[@thugblaster303]

I quit caffeine and alcohol 4 months ago. Initially had bad headaches from the caffeine withdrawal. I wasn’t a heavy alcohol drinker so that wasn’t much of an issue. I find it harder to go to sleep now since I stopped the caffeine. Think my body was used to the caffeine crash to go to sleep everyday. I do find that when I wake up in the mornings now I’m just up instantly. I don’t feel tired in the mornings and I feel more energy throughout the day.

[@davem4193]

I quit coffee 6 years ago with the same results as you. I was addicted to coffee and had 5 days of headaches when I quit. It feels weird to be able to easily get out of bed and fully awake when I wake up.

[@1timbarrett]

Apparently it’s quite possible to experience insomnia once we eliminate coffee. Not inevitable, but there will be some individuals like myself who take 2-3 weeks to reset sleep.😮

[@sophiasleprechaun500]

I quit coffee a couple days ago and am having insomnia. Thanks for the 2-3 weeks reset info! I was wondering if I made a mistake.

[@bambilynn3124]

So glad I turned this video on because I have been feeling great but had a few cups of coffee this morning and now I have knee and leg inflammation. I’m gonna miss coffee, but not the aches and pains.

[@SolidNate99]

Coffee is such a part of me. Very sad this diet doesn't allow it. In the past, I've cut it out but didn't notice anything positive from cutting it out

[@CarschA]

It's not the diet that doesn't allow it. It's your choice. I've done the carnivore and always drank coffee. No problems whatsoever. This guy is simply expressing his opinions, thinking that his opinions are the real thing here.

[@trxe420]

That was probably the most shocking thing for me, the lack of soreness. I am a former competitive powerlifter and used to being sore all the time when I train. Recently I decided I wanted to focus more on hypertrophy and developed a crazy meso-cycle that I literally couldn't even complete the first week because it had me lifting muscle groups 2x a week and the volume was just too high to recover. I started carnivore about a week ago and decided to restart my cycle and to my amazement I was recovering literally twice as fast. Still had DOMS, but it was nowhere near what I had on a low carb (plant/fruit) keto diet. That's after just one week lol, the best thing is though now I can get my calories in without eating all day and it tastes so much better and is faster to cook. My protein intake is so high now I am actually able to skip protein supplements. I admit, giving up coffee is going to be hard for me as I was raised on it (from Seattle and it was the original pre-workout), but I am willing to do so if I don't need it.

[@allainaheve]

That's amazing about the squats!!! I have always drank coffee and had muscle fatigue during workouts. But I've also fasted a lot and have done a similar experiment. For 2 months I ate normal/drank coffee and did 100 squats a day. I could do two sets of 50 comfortably before fatigue. Then I did a dry fast (no food or water) and kept doing the squats. Same results on day 1 and 2 but after day 3 (72 hours) I was able to do 444 squats IN A ROW without fatigue. I actually just stopped at 444 not because I was sore but because I was laughing so hard. Ok so now I'm 10 days into strict carnivore 0 carbs and I'm a bit weak from keto flu maybe? I feel better everyday but still haven't gone to the gym. Well I was still drinking coffee this whole 10 days too but today was my last cup. Now I'm curious to see if it really is keto flu or the nasty coffee and if I'll be at the gym soon cuz I miss working out!! I was only drinking it to go to the bathroom. I'll increase fats and see if that does it.

[@wasode20]

You guys riff of each other so easily ,and you both bring so much to the table.

[@Ares1775usmc]

I’ve been looking for a video covering this exact topic. Thank you!

[@TBoneTheCarnivore]

Great talk, thank you. Gonna have to quit the coffee once and for all!

[@chetcohron4254]

I can enjoy a couple cups of DeCaf Coffee, but Caffeine just tears me up in the restroom. So I went DeCaf with the Swiss Decaf Method and it gives me a good regular coffee taste.

[@tamhlam]

Wow, right on time. I was planning to cut out coffee starting tomorrow just as an experiment 🙃

[@thegram9207]

"It is perfectly possible for two people to intelligently come to different conclusions" (or something like that) Yes , absolutely . That is why we cannot censor open debate or otherwise corrupt it. An other argument for DECENTRALISATION. Ban central authorities. More voices equals greater chance of truth being the result. Always question everything - frequently.

[@timothybierl2746]

I quir coffee and tea for 30 days and did not notice any difference. My energy has been even throughout the day with coffee and without. Since i enjoy coffee, i have added it back in and have not noticed anything going back to it. If i could identify something that came from coffee, i will remove it. Otherwise, i will continue to enjoy it.

[@bouldo2451]

Still no timestamps... Its a must in 2023 man

[@luthergirl106]

I am seriously thinking about giving up all coffee.. I only have one cup in the morning anyway. My biggest benefit to coffee is that I can perfectly plan my “potty” time consistently every morning (10 mins after my last sip of coffee). Sounds silly, but I am worried if I give up coffee, I will have to go to the bathroom “unplanned” during my busy day 🤷🏼‍♀️ I will definitely have to experiment!!

[@jab3323]

I think enough fat in the diet and maybe a decent electrolyte supplement and good sleep will create a situation where after your first meal will be the time to go

[@Yunchiyunchi]

Laughed when I read this comment because this was 100% my concern as well. I don't even care about the flavor or nice feeling of coffee, can easily be without it. Just the "unplanned" bathroom visit freaks me out. Feels too wild to randomly enter a mall mid day and use public restroom for no2.

[@ericdalton8609]

😂😂

[@Yasharahla7]

​@@jab3323how does that work?

[@leopard7425]

On day 9 now, almost gave up Yesterday as it is HARD!! After weighing this morning feel a bit more motivated again. I lost 12.2 lbs in 8 days!! Unfortunately I won't be able to drop off coffee as well, at least for now. I will consider it in the future

[@rhondabritt3086]

Best one ever on how to think all about perceptions

[@anthonychaffeemd]

Thank you very much I appreciate it!

[@louisewildfire2630]

Coming from Australia NSW I used to be keto omad I’ve just stared carnivore & having one black coffee a day & drinking water for the rest I’m at omad eating rump bacon eggs or beef snags I do eat sheep yogurt. Atm healing a dislocated knee Great podcast thank you.

[@RV-there-Yet]

Just curious Louise~ Are "snags" sausages by chance? By "rump" do you mean beef rump roast? My experience w/coffee has been interesting as I've been a coffee drinker~ 2-4 a day~ for decades. I'm finding that has decreased to now just one coffee w/creamin the morning, & often I don't finish it. It has begun to make me feel anxious/sketchy, & is no longer appealing or desired. Time to simply give it up, in my case. Only water besides that, meat-based for 2 yrs, low carb for several more prior. Also, never cared for eggs at all, & now I enjoy them several times a week. Interesting how the palate shifts. The longer I eat meat, (& animal products) the more I want only meat. The longer I drink only water, the more I want only water. *Also quit a 30 yr diet soda habit, which was at least 2 a day ...all that time~ errgghh. I feel pretty awful about what I fed my precious body all those years, thinking I was healthy w/all the low fat/high fiber/lean protein.

[@user-lv7su4ij3b]

@@RV-there-Yet I’m guessing Louise being Aussie that she means sausages when using the slang term snags. Also having a rump is a rump steak in Australia ( & NZ & UK ) and is the same as a Sirloin Steak in the USA

[@RV-there-Yet]

@@user-lv7su4ij3b Thanks D =)

[@weberswonderland]

Something very interesting!!! My local coffee shop ferments the coffee beans for 2 days. I wonder if this helps with the negative effects? I live in Guatemala and coffee is huge here with about 3-4 coffee shops in each block. Yesterday I tried a new place and I told the owner wow your coffee is very different than any coffee I've tried in my life. He explained to me he ferments the beans for 2 days. I 100% know coffee is holding me back from the full benefits of carnivore but there might be some positives from fermenting the coffee beans just like fermenting in other foods. I just found it extremely interesting that this is actually a possibility. My goal (even though more expensive) is to slowly bring my 4 cups of coffee down to 1 at his cafe. Great video Dr Chaffee.

[@fractuslav]

i have an emotional thing for coffee because i'm colombian and i always saw it with sm love, but i just love to smell it - i rarely ever drank it, so i don't mind giving it up. it feels insane to me how normalized it is to actually nEED it to get through the day, and it's not even just a cup for many.

[@aliaasheha675]

I have the same experience with coffee love to smell it and I love how it looks! But I know I do not need it.

[@geraldmead7845]

This video convinced me to get rid of my coffee habit. Thanks

[@karimlours]

😅 I am on stage 4 of quitting coffee ☕️ sorry I failed miserably though a few months ago, I was able to stop for about three good months

[@jaredtestermantesterman899]

It's really not the physical stuff I like about this it's the mental clarity. I do things I struggled with with ease. Would not change anything

[@Damudean]

I don’t even get a boost I just feel more relaxed while drinking it. I do get the down later or I should say I get tired. Mostly though it upsets my stomach eventually and now I get aches and pains after a couple of days and then to top it off the headaches. Every time I note this down or say this I wonder why I drink coffee. I’ve managed to only drink 1 so far this week

[@sharonloves]

I just subscribed. I love your perspective on perception and I totally agree. Additionally, I am one week ketovore and just realized how cramped my legs feel after my coffee. I thought organic coffee would be ok but tomorrow I will skip the coffee and compare. Thanks so much for all the information, which will help me as as I heal my body and mind ❤.

[@LivelyEliza]

Strangely even though i come from a sedentary background I am a performance junky like Anthony. Despite being a 5'9" woman who used to be 315lbs and never played a sport in my life, once I started feeling the effects of eating clean on keto and how it affected my workouts, I fell in love with optimizing my performance. I am currently drinking the cleanest green tea I can find, but this video is making me rethink things. If I would function better on just pure Carnivore, I want to just do that. Way more cost effective and I do want to feel good.

[@dimpsthealien333]

I drink my homemade chicken and beef bone broths in place of coffee. Haven't had coffee for about 2 months and tea in a lot longer.

[@cyndimanka]

My 88 year old Mom has been drinking tea her whole life. Even as a child. Coffee her entire adult like. She’s very healthy other than some heart issues. Her damage was years of eating sugar and flour. She was 160# at 85. I got a hold of her diet after her husband passed. Now she’s 134. No arthritis. No autoimmune.

[@jab3323]

The question to ask which you'll never know the answer to is how would she be without coffee? Vegans tell me all the time they are perfectly healthy on plants and therefore plants aren't harmful. But have they experienced life without plants? No. Coffee won't kill you but that's not proof it's better than not having it at all

[@TheCuratorIsHere]

Coffee is cancer.

[@denisedecker7330]

I just lost my mother at the age of 93. She also had no signs of heart disease, and was still pretty physically active... She would go out and garden, etc. She ate The standard American diet and got a blockage from eating too much fiber. They had to go in to remove the blockage and at that time septis got into her whole body and she died. So fiber is deadly.

[@foxywhitetip7387]

Wow sorry to hear this

[@mjm_artistry]

There are smokers and drinkers that live to 88 years old. Does that make those things healthy?

[@crism7684]

So, what is it in coffee that is bad for me besides perhaps a little caffeine? Does it have Lectins, phytates? Sally K. Norton says coffee has very low oxalate levels. You mention the other '150' things it contains. What are they? What am i missing?

[@1Hope4All]

You could either switch to an organic decaf where the beans are grown in the shade and uses water to decaffeinate. Or just keep drinking what you're drinking. Is your coffee organic?

[@crism7684]

Thanks for your response. Not drinking dedaf, but I have switched to organic, and have never had more than a small cup a day. I go to bed nights thinking about that morning joe. Coffee is the one thing I was hoping I would not have to give up to dispel this pain caused by polymyalgia rheumatica. @@1Hope4All

[@SandrinaN]

I don’t feel good on coffee. Finally stopped. Still yearn for something warm in the morning.

[@jeanrobinson7126]

I drink warm,almost hot water,put collagen in,and daily minerals,electrolytes! Butter and salt! So good 👍 Just a idea

[@foxyauragems6146]

Have you tried Yerba mate ? It’s low oxalate I love it with cream !

[@anab0lic]

try cocoa + cream

[@annettestephens5337]

Hot drinks are essential to me in winter so I drink hot water with a pinch of mineral salts. I enjoy cupping my hands around the mug - can’t give that up!

[@peterwebb8732]

Bone Broth!

[@Lorrieonline]

Thank you so much for recording with ample audio - I normally struggle to hear podcasts. Enjoying your channel!

[@GladwinAbrio]

would love to know your go to shops in Perth Dr Anthony as I am based here too 🙂

[@chrisarnold2118]

I stopped coffee because of this man, and wow he is spot on, body aches and soreness reduced drastically

[@davidjohnston4240]

Visiting my mother in the UK right now. I just sat down with a nice cup of tea to watch this video.

[@scottsnitzer9733]

I've been carnivore four months and last week I tried green tea and the caffeine and other plant toxins caused a bad Crohns flareup. After stopping the tea it took a couple of days for my system to quiet down.

[@someguyusa]

I wonder if the cause of the muscle soreness after drinking coffee is due to the loss of water and electrolytes it causes which results in depletion or imbalance. If I drink a bottle of water mixed with Redmond ReLyte after a cup of coffee, then the soreness and cramping will subside; it also just doesn't happen at all if I drink it just before a cup or just after a cup of coffee.

[@roseharland3435]

Very professional - keep up the validated scientific evidence

[@maricamaas2326]

Ingesting limited quantities of bitter substances (including bitter coffee) is one way to stimulate the Vagus nerve, and in time upregulate Vagal tone, towards better balance between sympathetic- and parasympathetic nervous system function (as is discussed by Tony Grandov on YT). There also are many other methods towards achieving this (including Cold Exposure accompanied by Deep Breathing, and doing Coffee Enemas). CE is also a helpful tool to use to rectify chronic constipation, and can be employed to inhibit pain. It stimulates liver function in general - including increased Glutathione production, and can assist in removing intrahepatic biliary gallstones from the liver and gallbladder. CE is a component included in Gerson therapy, as well as the Kelley&Gonzales protocol; for upregulation of detoxification from broken-down cancer tissue. CE was in fact included as healing modality in the Merck Manual until the 70's.

[@zenith622]

I can’t tolerate coffee that much anymore, I still struggle with energy drinks every once in a while . Besides that carnivore has helped me a lot with my gut issues. Now I crave meat all the time, which I enjoy very much.

[@Christinesobsevations]

I see a lot of drs specialists and physical therapists . I always take notes their mental sharpness and body type.because if they take care of themselves they can take care of me ❤❤❤❤

[@jamescboyd]

I’m 20 days in to carnivore, no coffee. Just meat, butter, eggs, and salt. I’m sore from jiujitsu training a couple days ago.

[@texanboiii562]

What about Yerba mate? Any opinion or info on that product?

[@EDBOXER1]

What about taking caffeine pills ?

[@armanzbahrani291]

Great interview Doc! And so intriguing. Do you feel the lack of soreness post-exercise on a "lion's diet" iteration of carnivory a universal thing? I recall Steak & Butter Gal's (Bella's) husband who trains with Shawn Baker saying that he is sore after training with Dr Baker and that "Dr Baker's training is so intense that you'll be sore no matter what diet you're on"... Any thoughts?

[@jen6662]

Interesting - Bella also recently said her husband still drinks coffee

[@sweetgrl4JC]

Bella also has a video explaining that her bf or husband stoped eating carnivore.

[@asuranrocks]

After 2 weeks of no coffee, i suddenly noticed that i had not been having a stuffed nose for some time! So it was the coffee after all.....but i missed coffee too much and added it back in anyway 😵

[@anthonychaffeemd]

Haha that's ok, at least you tried it and know the difference. Good for you for giving it a shot!

[@asuranrocks]

@@anthonychaffeemd thank you so much dr!!

[@anthonychaffeemd]

@@asuranrocks no problem!

[@ilc07]

Dr. Chaffee, Question: What is your take on protein drinks. I'm 3 days into carnivore, and i take 2 scopes of protein between meals, after a workout.

[@justsayin8893]

I have been on carnivore for 3 weeks now... i had a gastric bypass 12 years ago and a colisystecomy too.. i take bile salts and digestive supplements but every time i eat its stomach cramps and multiple trips to the Loo... what am i doing wrong?

[@wyrrlynmyrrlyn]

People also get mad when they say “feel the burn” and then I tell them there is no “burn” when you don’t have all the carb metabolites in the system.

[@masteryoda1258]

Can you do a video on hair loss/male pattern baldness?

[@EarmuffHugger]

Drank coffee for 25 years and it does not work for me now in fact it messes up my whole digestive system...so 👎 for coffee in my opinion.

[@1timbarrett]

Same here- coffee keeps me sprinting to the bathroom. For those who can tolerate coffee however, have at it!😅

[@abc33944]

Same at 48 and years of coffee/tea I’m experiencing some crazy waterworks

[@godsdozer]

Dr. chaffe, Im 58, never been obese ect (but mesiobuccally unhealthy), never been a drinker, smoker or coffee drinker, but drank diet cokes like water for 30+ years but went cold turkey with carbs/sugars and diet cokes. Decided to drink A coffee with my wife in the morning and one in the evening, it was our, what's up for today, and, at the end of the day, how did your day go today time together? Started carnivore (99.5%) in August 2022. Was talking to my wife about all of the benefits of eating this way a few weeks ago......... and I made the comment to her my fingers would slightly swell when I drank coffee........................ funny you mentioned the inflammation part in this video. Will I quit drinking coffee and negate our new ritual together, not sure? but what you say is spot on. Thank you so much for what you do.

[@tracyd2598]

You can always have a glass of water, and share your day.