What Does Shogun Japan Actually Allow You to Do? - Hoi4

[@BubblesZest]

I heard something about this path being alright in mp, so I decided to see what it's like in sp. Two different gamemods I know, so let's say your results may vary. Anyway, this was another video where it's production was a rollercoaster. But in the end, it's here. So I can rest easy with that.

[@barderail1184]

Bad question probably but what mp and sp means

[@marteduard4833]

@@barderail1184 multiplayer and singleplayer

[@barderail1184]

@@marteduard4833 thx

[@Spiterman488]

Please rank all the french paths next

[@koperekhabsburdzki43]

Ah yes, my favorite "Shogunate" with emperor as head of Govarment

[@animeXcaso]

Japan needs some rework

[@b0tty18]

I mean even with historical wasn’t Tojo running the country with the Emperor as figurehead or something

[@Shiny49GER]

@@thebuttonman9901 Yeah, but in the Shogunate Era, the Emperor was more like a powerless figurehead. Would be cool if "Modern Shogunate" gives you a Shogun as leader and Hirohito as national modifier for stability (+60%) like the democratic path does.

[@sto1238]

There’s some mods that rework that path and let’s you put the Tokugawa family back in charge

[@sto1238]

@@thebuttonman9901more like emperor under shogun

[@colBoh]

Here's an interesting idea: Divide the Shogunate and Emperor Showa focuses into their own separate sub-branches. Maybe "Modern Shogunate" could be similar to Ethiopia's "Federal Empire" focus, dividing Japan into puppet states that develop on their own faster than they would united, and "Emperor Showa" simply gives Hirohito new traits for extra PP, extra daily Compliance gain, or to remove the debuffs from the Army/Navy balancing mechanic.

[@bltsevdallarfanclub641]

Ngl dope idea. The only thing that could go worse is dockyard output. Because you gave your dockyards to puppets it would be impossible to make a navy to rival USA. If you code so it does not give dockyards to puppets it could be awsome.

[@muhteremhayalett]

@@bltsevdallarfanclub641 Maybe special puppet type for Japanese Shogunate? You can't use their factories (or maybe half of them) but you can use their dockyards manually. When a war happens, which will only be triggered by a major nation declares war on us, we can use their armies without them commanding.

[@danielgloyd4529]

You ignored the main benefit of going this path. Getting the wargoal on China without the Marco polo debufs. You can steamroll Mao and China. Then turn your focus on the Soviets. They will still have tons of debufs. Mongolia and Tanu Tuva will have supply depots so you connect it to your rail road and then push to cut the 1 main soviet railroad and all there troops in the western half will be on low supply. You can mop up that whole side and just push along the railway until you get to Stalingrad.

[@BubblesZest]

Fair enough, didn't think of the Marco Polo stuff. Tho those provocation wargoals can appear with any path so they aren't a benefit unique to this tree.

[@seanm241]

Fighting in Siberia is still fighting in Siberia

[@SmashingCapital]

Yeah but the chinese united front doesnt form

[@Aviationlord7742]

“Mine furhur, Warsaw has fallen!” “excellent was it our tanks that took it?” “Ah actually…..” Somewhere in Berlin 1939

[@aidenbooksmith2351]

I feel like each nation should have a unique bit, and Japan having a free Total Mobilization is definitely important, and not even enough to make Japan stand out among majors. If you factor in bicycle battalions, sure.

[@austria-hungary7680]

Japanese focus "The Zero" allows you to produce the plane without it being researched.

[@krasnamerah1926]

The thing about Militarist Japan easily having Total Mob and Spiritual Mob really reflects IRL Japan. Should've added a Shogun tho', Sadao Araki would suffice. I like Showa Restoration path more.

[@AdmiraHax]

Yeah, Araki as the leader of the Kodoha faction would be the perfect choice, even though he clearly wanted power for the Emperor, not himself.

[@krasnamerah1926]

​@@AdmiraHax, Hagakure is a real good mod to properly represent Imperial Japan, IMO. They even have several Shogun options depending on which part of the military who are dominating.

[@sto1238]

I just want a Tokugawa larp path with modern samurai lol

[@maozedong69420]

The dude who wrote JoJo?

[@vault6242]

​@@maozedong69420He's been around for a long time, drinking blood has its benefits!

[@michaelmutranowski123]

the way to fix this branch is to lock it behind Japan's Inter-Service Rivalry decisions. The Imperial Army wanted to attack the USSR while the Imperial Navy wanted to attack the USA and European possession in Southeast Asia so picking the Prioritize Steel For Guns Decision should send you down this branch. This branch should have big buffs for the Army while having massive debuffs for the Navy and should lead to the Navy starting a civil war if you start loosing against the USSR or don't beat the USSR in a certain amount of time. There should also be an option to peace-out with the USSR if you take specific provinces and hold them for a set amount of time. Or, you should switch over to this branch if you win the Test The Soviets Decision border conflict.

[@MaxHammerleaf]

Japan: Occupies a large part of China. Zest: Is surprised China isn't happy.

[@BubblesZest]

I mean atleast you understood the joke, so I must be making progress.

[@shashwatsinha2704]

Manchuria is not Han Chinese

[@maozedong69420]

​@@shashwatsinha2704And Pakistan isn't Indian

[@thatonedudenextdoor7840]

​@@shashwatsinha2704 Not Han Chinese but Manchu Chinese. Its still Chinese 😊

[@shashwatsinha2704]

@@thatonedudenextdoor7840 Well, thanks to the Chinese, Manchu language and culture is dead.

[@dystop_]

I wasn't aware of the declare war decision for shogun Japan but unless they've patched it you should also be able to use the coordinated strike mission to get around the NAPs

[@SmashingCapital]

What does nap mean

[@dystop_]

@@SmashingCapital non-aggression pact

[@romulusnuma116]

So much of this path is so weird like how you don't get a Shogun or that you don't go after China and instead Russia

[@Shiny49GER]

But won't come China after Japan anyways because China as well as Communist China get a "go to war with Japan" focus which the AI will do anyways?

[@sto1238]

Yea especially since Hideyoshi’s dream was to conquer China and become the new heavenly emperor. Maybe a larpy japan-China empire formable? We already have Byzantines and Rome why not a cursed Sino-Japanese empire lol

[@mappingshaman5280]

​@sto1238 that would be too powerful. You'd have all the benefits of being china, whilst also having the japanese military and research slots and wouldn't face any resistance.

[@sto1238]

@@mappingshaman5280 yea that’s kind of the point lol

[@fabianustertius6460]

@@mappingshaman5280 just do collab 100 whit china as japan, you get 2million manpower, the resources, japan puts the navy, there you go

[@DarthFhenix55]

Honestly, all the Japanese paths except communism are fun in a way. But they really need more focuses.

[@theCharmoftheSeer]

I usually pick this path over the historical one. It gives you 3 things you want more of as Japan, PP, research and civs. You still get China and you can get a good piece of the ussr (best I've done is as far west as the line Astrakhan/Kaukasus) before going to war with allies. The only downside is not getting french indochina.

[@yaldabraxas]

The only good thing about the japanese focuses is getting a Zero production variant: you get a free (well, you exchange a lot of time for it) Improved Small Carrier Airframe with tier-3 engine. It's 1940-s tech that you can get really early. Also you can easily convert it to CAS, lol.

[@Das_war_Kenny]

The japanese focustree needs a rework just like italy got. with balance of power system between Navy and Army. This system would be also nice in the german tree, between SS and Wehrmacht.

[@maozedong69420]

Hoi4 player when their parent commit domestic abuse (it just like Hoi4 balance of power between their dad and mom)

[@pc_suffering6941]

It makes no f-ing sense not just because of the Shogunate being led by an emperor, but also because Kodoha didn't like the idea of Shogunate AND were much, much more Nazi than Toseiha.

[@Teal182]

10:37 honestly its pretty easy, as belgium i once capped both france and the uk without using paratroopers for france (i didnt set them up correctly, i did paradrop britain tho) before germany capped poland

[@carltonleboss]

Japan could really do with the Balance of Power mechanics, since the Army and Navy had a serious rivalry.

[@FogoPQ]

I think they should remake the Japanese focus tree

[@disasterratio1388]

Could you try to make a video where you do the russian focus tree to become a puppet of japan and beat them? Like a war for Independence challenge

[@holyflink3764]

I believe modern shogon focus changes militerism national spirit

[@erwinrommel2972]

Can you do a Italian guide. Love these videos

[@christiaanstrydom2051]

I played this path recently. Used the provocation to invade China without marco debuffs which meant I was done by late 38. Only then joined the axis so all my troops and navy were in position to invade UK as soon as Danzig or War fires. Dealt with the allies. Invaded the Soviets was pretty easy. Waited around for US to declare war since I can invade from Canada but it was mid 42 and they still hadn't declared so I called it there. Although I share the sentiment that this path really needs to be expanded. The entire Japanese focus tree needs a rework in my opinion. After By Blood Alone they now have the worst focus tree of the major powers in my opinion.

[@Spiterman488]

Please rank all the french paths next

[@lukas54cz71]

I understand Showa Restoration, Hirohito was pacifist, that is why the war support debuff.

[@7rashbag785]

can you rank every french path?

[@hiddensmith1]

Shogun japan mor like shotgun japan

[@leosharman8630]

have you stopped making videos? I hope not.

[@xendos3446]

Why do I hear tf2 music?😭

[@tagus100]

You sound so zesty when you say ‘zest’

[@avrgbritishguy]

Yoooo I was the exactly 1000th person to like the video

[@jackgamz4512]

japan focus tree needs a rework uk whats the point: decolinization if you are not going communist poland whats the point: fascist poland and doing the beck-Ribbentrop pact and for communist poland, surrendering the east and being a puppet of russia

[@BlackManLover]

Play as yugoslavia😊

[@rjagad]

First.

[@big_slurp4603]

cringe

[@gregorgerzson1767]

So, you smashed the whole Allies in 1939, but the Leauge of Nation ended with Stalin attacked Finnland :DDD

[@royale7620]

Too bad the Showa path gives you a new country name plus new color plus flag 😢.

[@tenanaciouz]

the japanese tree is in desperate need of a rework. It's the most poorly aged major now that italy was reworked