What if the Civil War Never Happened?

The Civil War changed, basically all of America. But the events leading up to the Civil War altered it even more.
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[@captainimpaler5388]

The civil war wasn't about protecting slavery. It was about protecting states rights. To have slavery.

[@jerm70]

Regardless it still was an "at the time controversial" idea that the federal government could interfere with state governments that far. So yes. It was an infringement on the state's right to make laws especially regarding slavery. Both framing is the same and correct. Even if you disagree with that framing. Ultimately the federal government was not in charge of deciding what was and wasn't property. If left to their own devices the "radical republicans" would inevitably pass an anti-slavery bill that could of threaten to upend the political system because it would be challenged in the Supreme Court and regardless of the results the system would become delegitimized.

[@thundark3736]

So slavery? Lmao semantics

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

The core states seceded over slavery, one of the bigger complaints was the Fugutive Slave Act simply because the south preferred no interference even in the face of seemingly beneficial federal law over the issue. After the battle of Fort Sumpter, which happened because Lincoln Reenforced the fort after the secessionists agreed that he could send food as long as he didn't send troops, the north declared war, in which case the rest of the states joined the now confederacy model because it pissed them all off that the fed would declare war. Then you have all of lincolns "fuck the south" rhetoric all the way back to when he first started participating in politics and its a giant cluster fuck of both sides were aasholes but fir some reason we are compelled to pick a side for any reason other than "oh, gggpa fought on this side so that's good enough for me"

[@erickennedy8534]

@@jerm70 Somebody had to step in , because slavery is against humanity. It would been a problem if Bucainion did not ignore the situation.

[@__-td8rq]

​@Eric Kennedy I would argue that's a naive view. Do we think the north was truly morally superior. They shipped in "slaves" called the Irish to work in factories that had harsher conditions then what most slaves had to deal with, with no Healthcare housing or food provided. Slaves often joked if they had a cruel master they were being treated like Irishmen. To call slavery anti human when factory work was often crueler seems lopsided

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

This took far too long

[@RayRaven]

Just like the Civil War.

[@randomname5083]

Indeed

[@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access]

It was worth it

[@NotoriousTOAD]

I concur

[@silvergames6784]

AlternateHistoryHub Oof

[@some_dude1596]

"And yes the south seceded to protect slavery. They even say so... here and here..." I love how you he shuts down that argument lol.

[@Raycloud]

The key is how they justified it and why the North went to war. The justification was the accusation that the federal government was going to overstep its bounds and the reason the North went to war was to keep the federal government's dominion over the South, or to preserve the Union you might say. Another important question is why did the South want to protect slavery? The answers are complicated and uncomfortable.

[@MarmaladeINFP]

And what many people conveniently forget is this. It was the South that attacked the federal government. The invasion of the Northern army into the South only followed after that direct attack on the government. Southerners wanted war, but it wasn't a rational and wise choice to attack the federal government. If they had peacefully seceded, the federal government would have been helpless to do anything about it. Most Americans would never have supported an unprovoked attack on the South. Yet once the South attacked the government, most Americans were in favor of a military response. The South sealed their own doom before the war even began. They did that because, in their own minds, this was what they thought was the best way to protect slavery.

[@Raycloud]

@@MarmaladeINFP That's true but it is also naive to think that the Federal government wasn't trying to reinforce its garrison at Fort Sumnter. The fed wanted the war too.

[@MarmaladeINFP]

@@Raycloud - I doubt president Lincoln was seeking to provoke war. Fort Sumter was a military base. The US government to this day regularly reinforces military bases without any assumption that it will provoke a civil war. There was no particular reason anyone would have predicted the American Civil War before it happened. Attacking a military base is not a normal response.

[@Raycloud]

@@MarmaladeINFP You think the federal government was going to let half of its territory drift away and form a rival nation? That was not going to be allowed. Ever. Lincoln never even recognized the secession as legal so how could he do anything but hope for a quick and fast war? Many at the time thought a war would be over quickly, one way or the other. Lincoln needed a pretext and the Confederates gave him one.

[@Phoenix27272]

What if Alexander the Great lived another 20 years? He was only 32 when he died. I'm curious how far his empire might have evolved and how it might have consolidated its power if he had lived.

[@thedemonhater7748]

Brian Jordan living to the age of 82 in the 300 BC’s was a very rare thing- though if anyone would be able to live that long, it would’ve definitely been Alexander. Edit- changed the number. Serious mistake on my part.

[@tyler8253]

@@thedemonhater7748 Not at all true. Honestly if you lived past childhood you had a good chance of living to be an old man. Granted "old" tended to be more 60s than 70s or 80s like today, but there are records of ancient greeks even living till their 90s.

[@thedemonhater7748]

tyler2114 shit, you’re totally right. I don’t know why I typed in 32, but I had initially meant to say 82. Yeah, I’m aware. Infant and child mortality really brings down the average, but yeah, that’s totally right. There were still sporadic cases of people making it into their 100’s in the 16th and 19th century, so it was very possible- but also very rare- to live to old age.

[@tyler8253]

@@thedemonhater7748 No worries, man! We all make mistakes

[@Hadahuda]

Its good that he died

[@EmperorTigerstar]

*picks random deep war quote* “What’s so civil about war, anyway?” - Guns N Roses Does that count? Do I win?

[@iainhansen1047]

EmperorTigerstar yes you win

[@al-uc7cb]

armchair history plays roblox!!

[@crsmith6226]

You and Cody are my OTP

[@potatoman7604]

401st :)

[@josephtaylor2085]

Man I love how you comment on videos, you are hilarious. I also love your channel

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

Well the avengers would have been a lot more prepared for than- wait wrong civil war

[@bremcurt9514]

Oh for gods sake, they might have been able to stop him... I never thought of the civil war having that big of an effect on how the whole Thanos thing turned out...

[@l.warner3951]

Like the DCU?

[@frankie2time298]

You are everywhere!

[@marcosdiaz8391]

😂😂 Greatest comment of all time!

[@tovrobi5097]

Yeah. If Makhno would do... wait. That's also wrong civil war.

[@shononoyeetus8866]

"why is it called civil?" "may I kill you please?" "sure!" - That one song from Horrible Histories about the English Civil War

[@poissonpoison3090]

OH, MY CHILDHOOD

[@mitchellfenton3982]

It was civil because the weapons at the beginning were poor enough that you would have to get close to kill your enemy. You still needed to look them in the eye. Or hope they died from disease.

[@BELCAN57]

The "Cotton Gin" removed the seeds from already picked cotton. Slavers were still needed to pick it, it was just a lot easier to process with the gin (short for engine).

[@robertbaillie3201]

I was going to have to say the same thing. I was searching through the comments and couldn't believe that no one had picked that up.

[@coopergoodnight4331]

Same

[@beeaggro2593]

It's still crazy time consuming, that's the point.

[@camerahead3118]

Well, not really. Slavers wouldn't be needed because without the ability to mass produce cotton, it wouldn't be profitable.

[@trinwheeler4639]

Slaves were NOT needed to pick it, it was just cheaper. Any system will be boosted by an influx of cheap or free labor, that's why we're working to build robots.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Then Vampires would be a dying species. Courtesy of our still alive President, Abraham Lincoln.

[@mildly_miffed_man1414]

@Chuck Freaking Norris holy heck chuck norris!!!1!!11!! marry me please!!!1!!!!111!!!

[@A.Mortem]

I don't care what anyone says, that was a great movie

[@Bolter024]

😂

[@Bolter024]

@@A.Mortem Agreed

[@veryconcernedjesus2584]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache Fuck off we don’t need you spammers on this channel

[@thebiss1846]

It's amazing how the smallest of things(the cotton gin) can change so much. It's rather terrifying when you think about it.

[@famousramus2288]

It really is, just like when you wait too long to talk to your crush and thus a wasted opportunity to possibly have new experiences with that person.

[@TXkid124]

something something butterfly effect

[@stluke4655]

@#1crackfiend he did a video on it

[@godsgift1549]

Not really a little thing in this case but I understand

[@twice8091]

“The smallest things”.... the american civil war to end slavery???? Small????

[@nickwalker4936]

5:54 now I can’t stop imagining Robert E. Lee as Thanos “Fun isn’t something I’d consider when protectin’ my home Virginia... but this does put a smile on my face.” “When I’m finish, half of these here states will become a confederacy. The rest will still belong to the United States. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.”

[@icyr0bin-794]

correction “fun isn’t something id consider when protectin’ slavery***”

[@forestfilms472]

United States United States: Age of Mexico United States: Civil War United States: reconstruction

[@camerahead3118]

@@forestfilms472 I'd watch it

[@lordoftitans7636]

@@icyr0bin-794 well yes but no, Lee fought for the CSA because he was more loyal to his home state of Virginia than the united states. When Virginia left so too did Lee. IIRC Lee didn't give two shits about slavery

[@charleswarden291]

*Thanos E. Lee sits on horse, horse breaks* "Why does this keep happening?" Obviously, Iron Man would star as General Grant....Dr. Strange as Lincoln...which is ironic because Cumberbachian reasons... Oh...This could be fun....

[@domino_201]

The fact that the North and European powers benefited from slave labor with cotton, it immediately made me think of a book I read called “The Bitter Side of Sweet” which was a peek into the slave work done by children in the Ivory Coast to provide cocoa for major chocolate companies to make chocolate. It’s very intriguing to think about these things.

[@SuperemeLeaderJ]

Yum

[@comradesniper7507]

“No Civil War= less world intervention” *Vietnam wants to know your location

[@GenJeFT]

China and Russia would change dramatically as well. Without cheap southern cotton the industry of England does not get as big and without the massive scale of industry Karl Marx never writes his damned book. No Karl Marx and no Communism. Russia would probably still have its Czars and China would probably still have an emperor.

[@derorje2035]

@@GenJeFT China had a major civil war in the early 20th century. They weren´t only the republicans, communists and the emperor. In China fought several clans against eachother. They wouldn´t have the one empreror.

[@pieceofschmidtgames6389]

@@GenJeFT The west would still make a mockery of the qing, but the Kuomintang would not be overthrown by the communists.

[@memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724]

Every third world country wants to know that.

[@borntorice]

@@pieceofschmidtgames6389 kmt would not overthrown by commies(Mao), yes, but without commies(Lenin and Stalin), kmt would only 1 of many warlords in China. In real history, kmt had Soviet aid in 1920s, then Chiang exile and executed commies inside kmt for his fascism regime. Without Commies raised in Russia, both Commie and Fascism would be gone, Chiang would have no other political ideology for his dictatorship, just a warlord ruling Canton. Without Soviet aid for kmt, they wouldn't had more resources to defeat the ROC in Beijing and Northern warlords.

[@dnrx01]

Then Tony wouldn’t have hesitated to call Ste.... wait

[@Mostspecialusername]

What makes me happy is to know that there was ever ONE civil war. That is why we all know which civil war the title refers to.

[@sergeantsonso3490]

until the second one happens, which is inevitable in big nations like the US

[@ahmadtarek7763]

ARE YOU SURE THAT?

[@KingDerpy13]

@@ahmadtarek7763 Yes. All nations have an experation date. The British Empire turned into the UK, the French Empire turned into just simply France. The Russian Empire was killed and turned into the Soviet Union, and then that was killed and turned into the Russian Federation. All things will die, even the nations we know and "love". America only survived the first Civil War because the South didn't want to take the North over, they just wanted to be independent instead of being apart of a Union. Unlike the Russian Civil War or the Spanish Civil War, either side winning wouldn't have dismantled the "United States of America", it would've just been either less states(and there would've been a Confederate States of America) or its our timeline. Sooner or later, someone will come along in America, either through a political revolt(like the Commies during the Russian Civil War), or someone takes over that no one wanted and states start seceding again. But America's streak of luck will have to end one day.

[@ahmadtarek7763]

@@KingDerpy13 holy moly, i was responding to the original comment, if he was sure there was only going to be one civil war, as in I think there might be a second, I don't know why you assumed otherwise.

[@inigobantok1579]

@@KingDerpy13 even if they end their foreign policy and intervention and became fully isolationist in their policies like those before Pearl Harbour happened they still be OP asf they still have the largest economy by nominal gdp the largest wealth share 15th in HDI 7th in GDP per capita and still have the most equipped and advanced military in the world

[@StagnantBean956]

Blud really put a cinematic masterpiece at the end of one of his best videos and thought we wouldn’t notice 💀💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥

[@JustinY.]

An upload? We must be on the best alternate timeline.

[@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access]

Early on a Justin Y comment I must be in the best timeline

[@nkyouax6128]

Oh hello there young child want some candy?

[@daaave_]

Justin Y. Dude we have exactly the same interests, gaming and history! (Assuming your a real person like u have said)

[@user-uh7cb3vy4v]

no go away

[@SubZeroSnow05]

I call it the best Worldline

[@Monosekist]

Please do If Woodrow Wilson was never President.

[@humansvd3269]

US imperialism amd interventionism wouldn't be much of a thing.

[@januaryborn8976]

That would be good.

[@mrsammyg3125]

An interesting scenario would be Roosevelt winning in 1912

[@lilzoot77]

Time to rough ride over the Kaiser.

[@breakingbacon658]

Do we get a president that immediately declares war on Germany after the sinking of Lusitania? Now that would be a fun.

[@tealablu3759]

I’m watching this as I’m sewing cotton masks to donate. Really puts it into perspective.

[@thedaraf9979]

The atlantropa articals ad, is your equivilant of "WHAT?! You haven't played Tuber Simulator?"

[@GamersHolyArmy]

PFFT

[@abandonedchannel72929]

Lol

[@KingDerpy13]

Or now, "WHAT?! You haven't played Raid: Shadow Legends?! What are you doing with your life?!"

[@moonshinei]

There’s only one point of divergence possible: *artillery only*

[@cherryslat5702]

Bit late

[@freyrds8870]

@That’s where you’re wrong Kiddo Once upon a time, there was a great warrior known as ISP who dared challenge the world by marching to war with only artillery. His legend still lives on today, and some honour him by spamming his sacred words.

[@drpedopuk9705]

and eu3

[@wilsthelimit]

Hide your women, hide your men, Isorrow’s back in town again!

[@drpedopuk9705]

no until he do eu3

[@Falkirion]

So basically in this timeline the USA is in a very similar position to Russia at the turn of the 1900s pre industrialization. Just minus the whole monarchy. Interesting concept, I would like to see a follow up on how WW1 and 2 play out in this case.

[@TXkid124]

probably not very good for western europe. Unless you like communism

[@avinashreji60]

Kevin Dunn Not our problem

[@avinashreji60]

DylanDino2017דילן What the hell does that have do about being “American”

[@acvmnt2656]

@@TXkid124 Without the US, it would probably be some super-powered Germany as the primary western power (assuming that the USSR even still comes about). Which would probably make it even harder for the USSR to spread communism in eastern Europe.

[@glasswhisperer]

Without Woodrow Wilson there wouldn't be a WWII.

[@nathans5898]

“They sold Briddain their coddon.”

[@NoMereRanger73]

Southern Cessation: “I am...inevitable...”

[@Nil-pb7sf]

What if Australia won the Emu War?

[@triquans6714]

none21 impossible

[@Sovietube]

that is immposible

[@Victor-Baxter]

This is alt history, not stories and myths

[@greenbueller]

Australia is not real, smh

[@jonathanthomas1422]

THE INFEOR AUSTRALIANS WILL NEVER BEAT THE EMU'S. IF THEY DID THE EMU WILL BECAME ANGRY AND KILL MORE HUMANS AND RULE OVER AUSTRALIA AND THE WHOLE GALAXY AND THEN DESTROY THE YEET PLANET AND FIGHT THE SKIRT ALLIENS.

[@AgglomeratiProduzioni]

*What if the British Isles never existed?* No, Ireland, no Great Britain, just water. Not a place to inhabit, not a place to conquer, not a place that would have conquered a quarter of the world.

[@himlingpatrice]

During centuries, England and France had the same politics. Try to become the leading nation in Europe avoiding any other had that position. In the same time, Spanish were in war to become the leading power. Without England, there are 2 solutions : - Europe become a French or Spanish Empire ; - An other third country would had the english role of balancing the powers and avoid the empire born. Probably Netherlands or Sweden.

[@AgglomeratiProduzioni]

@@himlingpatrice Good scenario, but now I remembered that the emperor Constantinus started his political career in Britannia. Without that island, we can't really say what would have happen to the Roman Empire, which would have changed a lot of history.

[@impulzivity1665]

He's done a video similar to that! :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/apq7qWxsebt7jpo

[@emcdermott875]

What if Ireland is united Oh wait it is 🇮🇪🇮🇪👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@AeneasGemini]

Well that's easy: Hong Kong wouldn't be one of the wealthiest cities in the world, India wouldn't have the infrastructure that catapulted it into an economic powerhouse (and likely be ruled by an islamic theocracy), South Africa would be dirt poor and politically unstable (like the rest of the continent), Europe would probably controlled by France or one of the Nordic countries (who incidentally would've also built their own global empire) and all the world's most popular sports wouldn't exist.

[@0ld_Scratch]

Then we‘d all be gay, cause Johnny never left.

[@DocLL]

True

[@machida58]

Johnny?

[@Ludwig_Perpenhente]

@@machida58 "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" The American Civil War song of The North Here's the verse of the joke: "And We'll all feel gay when Johnny Comes Marching Home"

[@machida58]

@@Ludwig_Perpenhente Being gay is awesome!

[@jonme225]

@@machida58 yo i gotta ask what the fuck is a pro male revoultionary

[@baneblade__]

The civil war was about states rights... ...but states rights to do what exactly?

[@AaronEllisOfficial]

If civil war never happened, the Avengers would have been more prepared against Thanos

[@traveller4583]

thanos was inevitable

[@LuisSierra42]

True

[@mannyplayzzz1019]

@@LuisSierra42 this does put a smile on my face

[@utopia2134]

Lmao my laid back teacher made a joke like this while teaching

[@rjabrogar3492]

Lol

[@johnbagel2560]

The funny thing is that the whole slave or free thing isn’t what changes most drastically, as many believe. It would rather be the political and economic implications. America being split on this basis would completely redefine world powers and global politics during the 20th century. “America” would still be powerful but European powers would probably remain dominant.

[@barrybend7189]

It was actually the "infringement" of states rights of the action of the abolition of slaves.

[@barrybend7189]

@Aspiring Marauder who are you referring to with that remark?

[@johnbagel2560]

Yeah but what it boiled down to was really them wanting to keep their slaves (Which they believed to be constitutionally supported)

[@bnuuyes]

@@barrybend7189 what about the infringement on the northern states rights with the compromise of 1850?

[@barrybend7189]

@@bnuuyes the south was more volatile to the change.

[@krisreddish3066]

Alternate Prehistory Hub: What if cyanobacteria never evolved? :P

[@debbieg6952]

i ruined your very nice number of likes

[@krisreddish3066]

@Eros Matthew Montallana Not 100% true, just it would have gone down much different but what would have gone down is very much a mystery. The logic you take assumes only chloroplasts could have created multi-celled life by releasing O2. I have a doubt and it would a very hard and unusual topic to cover. What humans did in the past and how they would have changed history is nothing compared to how the microorganism's past changes would have affected history.

[@vitaliiyakovlev2264]

Evolution ain’t true

[@krisreddish3066]

@@vitaliiyakovlev2264 That is a convincing argument, but I think my rebuttal will be, "is too".

[@michealdrake3421]

I thought you might enjoy this. So, some friends and me were working on an alternate history story together. The core idea is "world War 2, but with airships" Our initial POD is the American Civil War, where the confederacy won, forcing the union to recognize it as a sovereign nation. As separate countries, both elected not to get involved in WWI, turning the crushing defeat of the central powers into a slow decline as both sides gradually run out of money and willpower to continue the war effort. Because the central powers weren't smashed the way they were irl, monarchies remain politically relevant. Germany keeps the Kaiser, the British monarch keeps more power for himself. Tsar Nicholas is a wiser man in our alt and only mobilizes his army in a defensive capacity, openly declaring neutrality, knowing that Russia has a lot of modernizing to do before it can hold its own in a European war. No war involvement means no trade embargo with the ottomans, no famine to fuel resentment of the Tsar, which means no support for the communists. Actually, the Russian monarchy is held in high esteem by the Russian people overall. As they see how the rest of Europe ripped itself apart, they largely feel that the Tsar made a wise and intelligent choice. So during that time Russia instead focuses on updating its military, industrial base, and agriculture. The death of the zeppelin was twofold. In WWI, zeppelins were practically indestructible until the British developed incendiary ammunition. So we had them invent it earlier, giving the central powers time to develop better construction methods, armor, and fire suppression systems. These advances keep airships viable military options for decades. In the civilian sector, the Hindenburg incident was the first major televised disaster and the shock of it killed the public's trust in them. So instead, our first major televised disaster was an urban train derailment, robbing railroads of the public's trust instead. The spark for the second world war itself had to do with lingering resentment from the first as countries on both sides are angry and frustrated at having sacrificed so much, and gained nothing. Though we haven't decided yet who actually fired the first shots

[@TheRedKing247]

The problem with that is that without a diplomatically active Russia, World War I will not occur, both on the direct and the macro scale. Literally (one of) the direct reason that World War I happened irl was the system of alliances that was triggered by Austria-Hungary trying to force the Serbians into submission. The Russians were allied to the Serbians and the Germans were allied to the Austro-hungarians, and so the Russians called in their French allies to help fight Germany. This lead to Germany attempting to attack through Belgium to get to France, which caused the UK to join the war against the Germans because Belgium was the UK's ally. Without that system of alliances, hinging upon Russia as the first chain in the link, it'd literally just be Austria-Hungary beating up on Serbia and nobody would care enough to go to war - at best there might be some diplomatic protests but neither France nor the UK would care enough about Serbia to spark a war. "Ah, but what about the growing militarization and sense of nationalism? There'd be a war sparked eventually, right?" Wrong. While Militarization and Nationalism certainly were certainly the background of World War I and could be considered as indirect causes, without a direct diplomatic cause there would be no war, and so without a diplomatically active Russia, there would never be a cause for war. The French and the UK were really only allies of circumstance, and before World War I their relations were really rather tepid at best. Without a strong ally of either the UK or Russia, France would never attempt an attack on the central powers as it'd be far too risky, and no other nation would have a reason to attack the central powers, or defend from them. Simply put, without Russia, World War I would never have happened. That's not to say Russia was the cause of the war, but a neutral Russia would remove one of the pieces of the puzzle that lead to World War I.

[@michealdrake3421]

@@TheRedKing247 That's a fair point. One argument I would make though is that there weren't just treaties to consider, but also the underlying politics and military doctrine. As much as I'd love to type up a wall of text explaining it, extra credits has a great series of videos titled The Seminal Tragedy that explains it all far better than I could. I'd have to think about it, but I'm sure I could engineer some motivations for WWI. Ultimately though all of this is only relevant to the extent that it sets the stage for WWII. But that's the war our story is actually about, with changes made to WWI and the prewar period to generate the particular political and technological circumstances that will let us tell the best story.

[@intergalactic92]

@@michealdrake3421 I’m going to second what the other guy says by pointing out that the war was sparked essentially by a disagreement between Russia and Austria. Austria wanted war with Serbia which, due to Russian interests in the region prompted them to get involved, prompting Germany, France and Britain to join in. Unless you completely change the event that sparks the war Russia simply must take an active part, they are the ones that started it. Other than that I quite like the premise of what you are going with. I think an alternative way of looking at the Russia thing could be to have Tsar Nicholas II die in the middle of the war, before he has the opportunity to ruin things by dismissing the competent generals and attempting to lead the army instead, the new Tsar can be a more sensible character who decides to pull out of the war and take on a more democratic tone with the central powers, which saves the monarchy.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

That sounds kinda dope.

[@Szgerle]

sounds like cringe shit

[@BloodRider1914]

It's quite nice to think that, because you made some wooden thing that spun cotton, you were responsible for the entire sociopolitical order of today

[@pierreodendaal6519]

Thanks Ellai Whitney

[@qertysef-1957]

@@busimagen he was focusing on how a simple intention effected so much

[@qertysef-1957]

@@busimagen The point of it was a simple invention as the subject and was exaggerating to make it seem less mechanically advanced to illustrate his point. It was just a simple hyperbole. If he would instead put a"wood or stone device that removed the seeds from cotton" instead of "some wooden thing", it wouldn't get his point across as effectively.

[@kevinrenamoran9262]

A great example of the butterfly effect

[@Mr-__-Sy]

where's the rome part 3?

[@username88094]

What’s that spaghetti western theme you used when you talked about the cotton gin? Such a banger

[@Xman34washere]

One single invention, just being nonexistent, could literally alter the timeline and universe. Our multiverse is a crazy one

[@gernandthegreat8839]

No civil war means no harry turtledove southern victory series and that's a would I can't live in

[@CrimsonPhantom88]

The alternate history books would just be "What if there had been a civil war?"

[@obi0914]

Ah a gentleman of class.

[@misterjei]

@@CrimsonPhantom88 And Harry Turtledove's other novel The United States of America.

[@s.w.4333]

Instead of. "The Guns of The South" We may have, "The Cotton Gins of The South"

[@evaristegalois6282]

Summary of the civil war: _The Confederate States did an oopsie_

[@ted_is_gaming]

Brittain did an oopsie

[@ted_is_gaming]

Napoleon did an oopsie

[@addison727be]

Gloria Borger needs to start a history channel

[@GamersHolyArmy]

Evolution did an oopsie

[@elgringo5137]

Evariste Galois because when I think oopsie, I think defending the rights of states. The Union did an oopsie by exploiting the south

[@professionalamatuer8064]

The epilogue of this video is deeply moving and important to hear

[@gabesteinberg6244]

It’s easier to understand the Civil War if you recognize that “slavery” entailed an entire economic system, and so for the abolition of slavery would be viewed like calls for instituting communism in America or for dissolving the USSR. It’s easy to condemn things in hindsight, but history is not anything close to the clean narrative often presented.

[@nathanclark2424]

So, slavery still bad, but the scope of the problem is so massive that in order to fix it, there would have to be large societal changes to even begin repairing it?

[@jaidenbrink]

@@nathanclark2424 exactly

[@jaidenbrink]

@@Aurelian369_ nobody said it wasn’t

[@acephantom903]

@@jaidenbrink I think more than half of the population of the South was uncomfortable with slavery at the time of the Civil War but they weren't willing to give up their way of life -- even though really the main ones benefiting were the plantation owners. They saw it as an attack on their way of life and the points of view literally split families. At the end the general consensus was that the war should never happen again. I don't know if the feelings about slavery changed too much because of the war.

[@thunderbird1921]

Here's my problem with that view: Would it not have been theoretically possible to hire American citizens to work the cotton fields? Surely, some could have come from the North to do it if needed (heck, so could have Irish and German immigrants of the era for that matter). To me, it seems like the plantation owners just didn't want to have to pay fair wages for labor so that THEY THEMSELVES would have more wealth and power. This is a side to slavery hurting America that few ever talk about, it kept TENS OF THOUSANDS of jobs (probably many more than that) away from ordinary free Americans.

[@afinoxi]

"Everybody will be free and equal." *_The guy that wrote this down as the constitution had 100 slaves of his own._*

[@ZoanBlade90]

Don't you just love human hypocrisy?

[@Flyingclam]

Thomas jefferson also criticized slavery while owning slaves. Like even his opposition made fun of him for it

[@jordanetherington1922]

Because those aren't *humans* /s

[@two-face1041]

Honest M'aiq supposedly he even had slave kid i’m not one of those “I’m going to rape a slave” kids...like a legit “I am in love with you let’s have a kid” kid

[@Szolrykor]

Maybe when he wrote "for ourselves and our posterity" he really did mean "ourselves and our posterity"? Lincoln himself didn't believe in former slaves being equal either even though he's the one that freed them. Makes you think.

[@commandercritic9036]

You know, I look back at a lot of these historical videos, and can't help but see a pattern, which goes something like this "If this didn't happen at this time, then this thing that happened at this time, wouldn't happen either, meaning THIS thing that happened at THIS time, ALSO becomes irrelevant..." and on and on it goes, The Black Death, struck Europe at JUST the right time, to create Renaissance Europe. Imagine, if it had struck earlier than it did in our timeline, it could have ended a large number of European nations, and left the subcontinent empty, for the Muslims to take over and colonize it. Of course, as Kody discussed in his video about the Black Death, it was the Mongols reopening of trade routes that caused it to spread. And he mentioned in that same video that taking out the Mongols, would have a MASSIVE butterfly effect on the rest of the world Then there's Napoleon, another massive butterfly effect if the timing is adjusted by even a small amount to either side, or just straight up, doesn't happen Stalin vs Trotsky, the Roman Empire clinging to existence, America's war of independence you know what... here's a video idea for you Kody 'All History is Connected' with the premise being a broad look at key historical events that lead into one another, a long line of dominoes that lead into the modern world So many documentaries that I've watched seem to treat certain events as separate from each other, but after watching your videos for so long, I don't believe that is the case. Everything is connected, even before global trade routes became a thing, if something didn't happen in one part of the world, then it causes a knock on effect for the rest of the world too just something to think about

[@_Cato_]

Commander Critic Genuinely not trying to be rude here but of course events are all connected. Every action and variable impacts an infinite probability of other variables and potential reactions. One Roman senator stumbling home drunk two seconds later than he did in our timeline in 57 BCE could have erased the ascent of Napoleon, or prevented the rise of the Song Dynasty in China. Everything is so intricately connected that it's almost absurd to contemplate.

[@mrbpg]

Commander Critic my AP US History teacher would always say “History is linear, one even always causes another. It’s always been connected and it always will. “

[@bradmiller2329]

@@_Cato_ I think not "everything is so intricately connected". A lot of things have, for lack of a better word, inertia behind them. Minor changes can be made without effecting major changes. Other things are much more pivotal, and even a minor change causes huge ripples. For example -- the Wright brothers fail at Kittyhawk. There were half a dozen other inventors, in at least 4 countries (Sweden, France, Germany, Brasil) that would have had heavier-than-air craft within a couple of years. How do we know this? Because they did in our timeline. The DETAIL of who did it first is less important (in this case) than that it got done. Now, if Otto Lilienthal hadn't been killed when he was, heavier-than-air craft would have been a thing in the 1890's, giving air power a chance to develop for 20 years BEFORE the Great War. The consequences of that minor change would have had HUGE consequences, as both sides would have known of the effectiveness of (at least!) aerial reconaissance.

[@alexworld257]

@@_Cato_ So right. I think the same way too ; heck, everything could be calculated if we had the data to do it instead of infinite(?) possibilities

[@tealablu3759]

Commander Critic that video exists. It’s called the history of the entire earth I guess. And it’s BEAUTIFUL. (Ok so maybe it’s not exactly that, but it pours through all of the history of earth, starting with the universe forming, going through earth’s formation, evolution, humans.... all of humans....)

[@wyndam71]

I hear you saying "codden" and it drives me crazy D:

[@newton21989]

Say "cot." "Cot" Now say "cotton." "CODDEN"

[@BELCAN57]

AAAAHHHHHHH!

[@bearcatben4762]

If you care so much don't watch American channels

[@newton21989]

@@bearcatben4762 I assume, by your reply, you believe "coddon" is the American pronunciation of "cotton." Most Americans, myself included, replace the T's with a glottal stop and omit the second O altogether. The final pronunciation sounds like "co'n." I know the purpose of language is to convey meaning and as long as you can understand what the other person is saying, then they were successful in their use of language, but communication works best when language gets out of the way. Using words, pronunciations, sentence structures, etc. that aren't generally accepted increases the potential for distraction. Your listener may start paying less attention to what you are saying and focus more on how you are saying it.

[@davidp.7620]

Yeah different dialects pronouncing things differently. How dare they?

[@plarteey1316]

@@newton21989 Can confirm, I dont even pronounce anything between the o's in cotton. Co'n ... it does sound like that. but I do seem to use the d's when I slow down

[@pignebula123]

How about “what if southern reconstruction was completed?”. I think that would a cool idea.

[@lukedetering4490]

Agreed

[@AHappyCub]

What is "Southern Reconstruction" ?

[@Delgen1951]

@@AHappyCub It is were the north colonies the south to make it more north like, it failed for reasons like the north went eick and did not want to finish its job, and left the south broken, also it was easier to steal what they could and not fix what was left in the south, so southers black and white were left to suffer and did. The south is still the redheaded stepchild of the nation today, mocked and cursed. As for as rasim have you looked in a mirror lately?

[@anakinskywalker7289]

Delgen1951 exactly this. It’s often isn’t talked about until High School. But imo is one of the most interesting time periods in the 19th Century American History.

[@aarongreen27yearsago96]

@That’s where you’re wrong Kiddo I assume you're not from the South, are you?

[@gregoryb3793]

What if AlternateHistoryHub loaded more often?

[@RedLeader327]

Whaddup Bullsith?

[@gregoryb3793]

@Uncle Sam lol, its all good. I know Red Leader from another channel. If you like Star Wars you should check it out, it's called Thor Skywalker.

[@gregoryb3793]

@@RedLeader327 not much! How are you?

[@dfwai7589]

Then he'd be like the infographics channel

[@alexzandate5807]

I'm not gonna lie, that Texas split into 5 states scenario almost gave me a heart attack lmao.

[@dgill441]

What is all states were re-drawn to have the same square mile area?? 🤯

[@somethinguncreative4475]

@@dgill441 in alaska 1/300 of the population would have a 1/5 of the senate

[@RealWarnerus]

I couldn't even imagine that! Not to mention it would look so weird on a map.

[@janaeoakman2312]

Who else didn't realize the American anthem was playing in the background until near the end of the video🇺🇸

[@gavinsinkula5345]

What if Britain made slavery illegal when the us was still a colony

[@januaryborn8976]

Gavin Sinkula That’s a more realistic scenario than what Cody presents.

[@patsflysfan2]

Gavin Sinkula I’m no historian, but I’m going to guess that the American colonies would have rebelled much earlier.

[@calebelliott147]

The British wouldn't have done that because the southern economy still was based on slavery. Britain made slavery illegal because they thought it was wrong, having much the same beliefs of the Northern states. The reason it was easy for Britain to outlaw slavery was because their national economy was not based on it, like America's was for half of the 17 century

[@Tylermac221]

@@januaryborn8976 no it isn't, Britain needed cheap labor for new crops in the new world, they were never going to not have slaves in the new world

[@christiandauz3742]

@Britannic hayyomatt The British banned slavery in 1835 One of the reasons why Texas seceded from Mexico is because slavery is illegal in Mexico

[@aleppo2k168]

0:11 when your gf breaks up with you but says you can still be siblings

[@Zoooooooooooo]

I approve

[@sueb7496]

or cousins!

[@ColonizerChan]

Aleppo2k16 kek

[@onyxi.x5777]

Or your mother

[@paymo14]

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@pablogetalife]

I think this is my favorite video from you. Lot of work and thought went into it and its a very interesting timeline just having changed one invention

[@sauliusltcool6902]

Like how much research do you need to do to make these videos, predict something, explain everithing? Awesome work. This channel is awesome.

[@dank4383]

I didn't know there was an alternate history where the south could be poorer

[@horrible1397]

Dan K , no civil war no war reperations.

[@codybailey855]

Yeah, because Detroit, Newark, etc. are such great bastions of wealth. Oh, and West Virginia belongs to the North as well. The bastard state of the Union lol!

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

That is basically the consensus amongst the AH community if the South really did manage to pull off independence. Had the CSA gained independence, they would have to face the reality that they will be second or third fiddle to the USA in Great Britain's eye and may be poorer due to the Doylist hubris of the Southern leadership to adopt industrialization. In our timeline, the First Brazilian Republic (a strictly agrarian country with an export economy) rapidly collapsed following the GReat Depression precisely because of that dependence...

[@ab5olut3zero95]

I don't see any Southerners moving up north, but I see plenty of yankees movin' into my State of SC for work and to get the hell away from the leftist hellholes that are Massachusetts, NY, and California.

[@capitancuba8962]

@@ab5olut3zero95 you i hate the leftists

[@kaiserwilhelmii674]

Nice to see you, my friend. It's been too long.

[@Joshua_23]

Oi emperor Wilhelm it’s be Bismarck and you suck!

[@skittybug6937]

One like = One Great War Victory

[@KayinDreemurr]

That beginning part where you state it so plainly why they seceeded is just beautiful~

[@elicllewellyn5619]

This is a superior presentation! It elucidates our connectivity very well and is a good example how terrible, bloody, traumatic, events can lead to something far better. In context, it is profound, and interesting, a real eye opener on how we grow spiritually through time, chaos, and suffering. We are literally a better, more compassionate people from having gone through that "baptism through fire".

[@jarrettblanchard3689]

*random comment saying southern secession was due to economic reasons without posting sources* but in technicality it can be argued that it was for economic reasons, after all the southern economy and much of the northern economies were dependent on the southern plantations and the slaves they held. before secession the Missouri compromise was what they held as the saving grace before the civil war, that was at least, until the Mexican-American war where the Missouri compromise would've tilted the political power to the north, which in turn would lead to abolition of slavery and the destruction of southern economies. things only made matters worse when a northern republican: Abraham Lincoln was elected to power, the south saw this as a threat to slavery, and thus their economy, and thus the first secession wave occurred. not defending slavery, or the south, just saying the economic reason for secession does technically have some standing ground... it just so happens that standing ground is based entirely on slavery.

[@H.J.Fleischmann]

I feel no shame in saying, I love you for this Greywolfe. I would just like to add, that the Missouri Compromise was not necessarily the problem, but rather the part where they did not uphold it. The Missouri Compromise would have seen New Mexico, Arizona, Clark County (Nevada, but it would have gone to another state), and southern California entered as slave states when they were entered. The replacement compromise, the one which brought about the popular vote on whether to be a slave or free state, is what was the problem. It led to Bleeding Kansas, and only served to intensify partisanship and distrust.

[@prestigegamer9316]

I thought this was obvious but it’s surprising how many would disagree with this point.

[@lilgr1ng0]

>adds Union soldier with his own book >shameless plug

[@FtechJack]

Cody! I love your videos, my dude! Honestly they've taken the monotony out of my day.

[@miguelantonioacostadomingu9376]

Absolutly amazing, like we say in Venezuela: “theres no harm that doesn’t come for good “ ❤️

[@MrPro897]

Why Spanish male names include feminine names like Anne and Maria?

[@pastormiguel5296]

What if I lost my virginity Edit: No I won’t do any Alabama things either

[@tornadowatcher]

We don't think about the impossible

[@johnblunt6693]

Good question.. to bad we won't ever find an awnser

[@thatonecountrythateveryone1658]

Tornado Watcher Damn man you didn’t have to do him like that.

[@tornadowatcher]

@@thatonecountrythateveryone1658 I'm in the same boat though

[@viciousdavey6872]

You won't

[@sdhubbard]

You know what I like? I like how he explains actual historical events in their proper context (like comparing cotton to the oil industry today)

[@domino_201]

The places that cotton went around the world from the South is a real eye-opener. It really makes you think about everyday products and where they come from. I read a book a while ago called "The Bitter Side of Sweet," by Tara Sullivan, a fictional story of 2 or 3 children (I don't really remember) that were forced to work on Cocoa farms in Cote d'Ivoire.

[@braedenmartin8596]

Watching these videos make me realize everything happens for a reason

[@concept5631]

What is that reason?

[@parkertinsley7329]

The worst part about the alternate timeline is Texas getting split up

[@BadWebDiver]

Very easy for certain regions to become intrisically loyal though... I dare say Texas has it's regional parochialism as exists everywhere. I live in the biggest state in my country, and the difference between the north and the south part is quite extensive; let alone the idea sometimes suggested of our state seceding from the rest of the nation.

[@Jay_76]

But, think of the football rivalries within a divided Texas.

[@DaveMiller6042]

That and African Americans are probably treated absolutely horribly and not at all treated like humans with rights.

[@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access]

*Gotta feed those sheep.*

[@ivandinsmore6217]

One of your best ever videos. Fascinating. Well done.

[@zanderzephyrlistens]

"And in part, the modern world wouldn't exist at all." -Caleb, master salesman of alt hist

[@SuperZombieBros]

I love that version of the anthem at the end of the video. It made me remember that our anthem doesn’t suck, it’s just most modern renditions are garbage.

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

What if Rhodesia won the bush war?

[@darcyrobbs6866]

The wars not over. For Rhodesians never die.

[@christianweibrecht6555]

Answer eventually the white supremacist government would be forced to grant equal rights to blacks in order regain access to the international market like south Africa did or collapse due to bankruptcy

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

@@christianweibrecht6555 even though the black supremacist took over and oppressed the whites like South Africa does today.

[@BifronsCandle]

They would have withered away, eventually.

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

@@BifronsCandle that a what they said about America when we got our independence.

[@waterbird2686]

America would've annexed more of northern mexico where rebellions were happening the major reasons they didn't was because of the free state slave state problem

[@Canada1994]

I love the 8-bit version of "The yellow rose of Texas" used in the video

[@rambunctiousbearguy]

I really hate how you made Virginia and West Virginia separate even though they wouldn’t be in this scenario!

[@mwm1724]

If you mean how half of it is red and half isn't, then I think that's just illustrating the differences in the parts of the state that caused it to separate during the civil war; the agrarian east and the mining dominated west.

[@rambunctiousbearguy]

yeah but then why not draw a line like that for every states cultural differences and you could bring up the fact that there is a bigger split for Virginia but then if you're only going to do this to Virginia then why even do it at all

[@justanormalsimpleguy]

What if Rome Never Existed? Part III, please

[@rodneylim6188]

Do you mean Rome the place or the Roman Empire?

[@justanormalsimpleguy]

@@rodneylim6188 Roman empire, Kody made video about if Rome never existed, he made 2 parts and told that there are some parts he didn't mentioned and he will discuss on part 3, check it out if you haven't seen it, it's really good scenario

[@Adam-mo6zt]

You are absolutely amazing, from the way you describe things and to how amazing you are at predicting things and coming up with these alternate timelines. You are truly great.

[@bekahbuggy9688]

What if Napoleon wasn’t stopped at Waterloo? What if Napoleon won Waterloo? What would he have done when he won? Napoleon is my favorite historical character so I just really need to know. Thank you!

[@twinzzlers]

It's generally considered that he would still be overthrown. His goal at Waterloo was for everyone to say "Fine" and let him stay.

[@coloneljjhawkins926]

How about “What if England won the 100 years war”

[@FCGroningen1987]

Considering how many descendants of the Valois line were still alive, it was only a matter of time France would have become independent again. The War of the Roses would have been the perfect moment to become independent again.

[@hollowhoagie6441]

@@FCGroningen1987 even still, this would be a fun scenario to look at

[@dingermcgee3871]

FCGroningen1987 actually the war of the roses happened because of the loss of English lands in France to France, so we don’t know

[@Smile4theKillCam456]

"an inevitable world war" "if one even happened at all" ex-excuse me, wot m8?

[@christines8529]

Very thought provoking. Thank you.

[@dabarworshipcenter]

Great job Cody!!!

[@gunsbeersmemes]

What if cotton was pronounced as "cott-un", not "coddin" lol

[@yarpen26]

Then slavery would have prevailed until now and there's Nobama.

[@travisrowe7697]

Also it’s apparently bridden, not Britain

[@jamesr7997]

That was pissing me off the entire time!

[@ewchil]

In an alternate universe there could be more hard Ts.

[@MrEelwentworth]

I'll see your "coddin" and raise you a "kawdin"

[@kaylaazz_m]

Cody, you’re perhaps one of the best youtubers I’ve ever watched. You got me interested in history, and got me into my favorite subject. Hell, I even love your book! Love ya dude! ❤️

[@Roflrawr]

I found you in a comment on a video I was watching. So i looked at your channel and subscribed

[@momulatto7544]

This is a great video

[@mrshadowextraz8270]

What if Roosevelt won in 1912?

[@moradator]

A channel called whatifalthist did a video on that. He does alternate history videos too so go check him out!

[@vlad-ns6yt]

@T_ C I wouldn't say that. I enjoy his videos, and if you don't, don't tell other people to not watch him.

[@someguy6422]

If he got assassinated shortly after winning then back in the ussa

[@toasterofdoom9629]

@@vlad-ns6yt To be fair it's kind of like saying "don't watch that show/movie it's bad" it's a completely reasonable statement.

[@jaredweber9407]

These remain consistently the most well written and well informed history videos on KZbin. You continue to surprise me with how well done these videos always are.

[@shadowmane55]

here from vlogging through history. great vid

[@user-gm5lp1ny9w]

Im not American but I have a great interest in American 19th century history and Love alternative history. Great video

[@angelmartinezrivera6825]

That warhammer 40k edit made my day

[@agesicki7404]

I would love to see "What if Al Gore won the 2000 Election?"

[@retnavybrat]

Especially to see how he would've handled 9-11.

[@tedioussugar384]

Then we wouldn’t be able to learn about and prevent ManBearPig. This isn’t a joke, I’m being totally cereal.

[@one_with_kevrything9825]

2 words: Lock box.

[@m4rs12]

911 wouldn't happened...

[@TheTruthfulAsshole]

Hahaha. Same. America is a duopoly so like Obama, nothing fundamentally changes.

[@patiencesinclair7116]

the 8 bit yellow rose of texas was a nice touch cody :)

[@Gigas0101]

keep pluggin' that book Cody.

[@ReaverLordTonus]

I want an alternate scenario where the the thirteen colonies united as one state with only the federal government as the only government. Without state governments, how would the country have evolved?

[@princebackup2496]

TonesTheGeek that’s an actually really cool concept !

[@ab5olut3zero95]

In short, it wouldn't. That's exactly what they were rebelling against. Trying that would have simply been them staying under the Crown. Why bother with the change?

[@ReaverLordTonus]

Torrence Yarborough the thirteen colonies basically wanted to be thirteen independent nations with their own interests and the biggest problem the continental congress had at the time was that the individual states were not willing to contribute equally to the war effort because they had their own governments to refuse. They were so obsessed with holding onto their own power and claiming territory under their influence that they nearly jeopardized the entire country's foundation. Even after independence was won, the state's insisted on making their own rules without any regards for the federal government's authority. Slavery was on its way out globally, other nations with single state governments abolished the practice without having a civil war. Jim Crow laws and segregation was in clear violation of both federal law and the constitution, governors used their authority to essentially commit acts of treason (Eisenhower vs Governor Faubus and Kennedy vs Governor Wallace) requiring the federal government to use military force against someone who is supposed to answer to a higher authority without question. Today the cost of living and the minimum wage is not standardized since each state can decide how much it gets to be at the whim of local industries who can pay for cheap labor in one state and sell their goods at an inflated price in another. The electoral college generates misleading election results as states are defined by only one political party and those not part of that party are all but forgotten (like say your a democrat in a red state, makes your vote seem pointless doesn't it). I want to see what the country would be like if it was just one state, one law, and one government.

[@adamparris8353]

Interesting concept, but in the time between the colonization and the revolution, the colonies had grown so much as separate colonies, they would've had such differing opinions that they would have had to form separate state governments.

[@ihateyankees3655]

@@ab5olut3zero95 It could have happened if scheming bastards like Hamilton had gotten more influence. But it's important to remember that each colony had its own Governor and government which existed independent of the others, even if they were all subservient to the British crown.

[@davidp.7620]

Finally someone speaks about the Spanish Civil War. Oh! What a disappointment!

[@MDW1101]

What's stopping you from doing it?

[@dankesteevee1937]

Which one? Aren't you a lot like France where if nothing's going on ya just fight eachother as something to do?.

[@naimmiralles2903]

Yo spanish right? Because i'm and i like the idea of the video but cody should study a lot.

[@madisonhasson8981]

The cotton seeds are not used for cloth. The seeds are like grass spurs stuck in a wad of fiber. It is difficult to remove the seeds, and each cotton wad contains several seeds. Once the seeds are removed the fluff can be spun into thread, then woven into fabric, etc...If you miss any seeds, when you spin the fiber, the seeds make a huge bulge/weak point in the thread.

[@Harkness197]

Love your channel bro, what do you use to create your characters? They remind me of Rimworld :)

[@markushaahr9194]

Ironic how one invention managed to change the entire course of history. Wonder if AirPods will have the same kind of effect.

[@homerun443]

These "what if" reasonings with large chains of events, while entertaining , are based on a long line of improbable assumptions. For them to work, it must be assumed that no other actions are taken to replace the one's that never happened. Like another solution being found to get cotton efficiently etc.

[@funeraloak7422]

A new technology that could possibly change the course of history is coming! Oh no... He has AirPods on, he can't hear us.

[@iamnumber4ization]

Markus Haahr idk if you’re being serious or sarcastic but no idiot AirPods arnt important to that level

[@markushaahr9194]

Jean what are you talking about? I’m being dead serious! What if China would launch a full on invasion of the USA but nobody in the US would even notice because they would all have AirPods and wouldn’t hear.

[@funeraloak7422]

@@markushaahr9194 The US can fight a war half way across the world and the general public doesnt feel a thing. We wouldnt notice even if we didnt have airpods. Plus China doesnt have the capacity to project force across the world, only the US.

[@ritz_o7]

Alternate History Hub> Pornhub

[@andy56duky]

Alternative Porn hub

[@IRTG2006]

0 I would watch that.

[@nickanzohrevand7547]

No man pornhub will always be the best

[@thecosmic8248]

Richard Mingerhaufer Alternate History Hub On PornHub

[@eternal_disciple3899]

What if Pornhub never existed?

[@kanakattack4408]

5:03 I didn't even notice there was another guy there

[@mosathome]

That was great good job