What is Goku's Win/Loss Ratio in Dragon Ball Z?

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Lonk's Takes

Lonk's Takes

20 күн бұрын

#dragonball #anime #goku #naruto #bleach #onepiece
Goku vs Vegeta, Goku vs Cell, and Goku vs Frieza are all some of the best battles in anime but, Goku did not win all of them. Compared to other anime protagonists, like Naruto, Luffy and Ichigo does Goku win a lot of his fights or not? Let's find out!

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@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
He's called Goku and not Golu because he doesnt take Ls
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople 18 күн бұрын
lol
@nstar6412
@nstar6412 18 күн бұрын
As a kid at least tho haha
@therealcbblover
@therealcbblover 18 күн бұрын
Sorta off topic, but lf namek goku from dbl is peak thumbnail.
@dragonballgacha
@dragonballgacha 18 күн бұрын
10:00 your grammar temporarily took an L
@BrandonScott-mi5pz
@BrandonScott-mi5pz 18 күн бұрын
GREAT LONK'S TAKES DRAGON BALL Z GOKU WIN AND LOSS RATIO VIDEO.
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot 18 күн бұрын
Kid Goku was a menace and OP as f_ck
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
Yessir
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 18 күн бұрын
He was extremely Savage too
@a-buttonace
@a-buttonace 18 күн бұрын
Cold blooded killer.
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 16 күн бұрын
Actually weird to think 21st Tenkaichi Goku was strogner than all of OG DB,cuz he had a PL of 86 and turned into an Ozaru with a PL of 860 while the strongest OG DB Character besides him is Piccolo Je with 400.
@TDG386
@TDG386 16 күн бұрын
Saiyan genes carrying him, but that only lasts until Raditz arrives.
@christopher_silver
@christopher_silver 18 күн бұрын
I find it funny how anime fans say that Goku has "the most plot armor" even tho his W percentage in Z is lower than the other protagonists
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
Plot armor is when a mechanic established in the story is used as described 🙄
@Ryan-uq7kj
@Ryan-uq7kj 18 күн бұрын
But even when he does lose he's always given an excuse. For example having a heart virus.
@muozcraft
@muozcraft 18 күн бұрын
@@Ryan-uq7kj yeah, most of the time the excuse is "he's not strong enough to win"
@littleaqua32
@littleaqua32 18 күн бұрын
You can’t exactly fault Goku for that. The man would rather face opponents way above him instead of beneath him like I’d expect Vegeta would do.
@alexrobinet7576
@alexrobinet7576 18 күн бұрын
​@@lonkstakeslol
@danielendless
@danielendless 18 күн бұрын
So Goku peaked as a kid, he just like me fr😔
@Tazreale
@Tazreale 18 күн бұрын
OG Dragon Ball was more of a training wheels. Earth didn't have super strong characters if you look towards when the Z Saga hit with all the various 'godly alien' races threatening Earth started to arrive. General Tao, Master Shen and Master Roshi were considered peak at that time with Tao being stronger than the two of them according to Power Levels(his was 210 and Roshi/Shen is listed in 100s) and all three can easily be swatted by anything Z related. Sure, some of the other Z fighters(Picollo and Tien) got well over 200 range, but that was at the very end of Dragon Ball Saga and going into Z Raditz Saga when Tao was already considered OP prior to those events. You also have to remember Goku is a cheat character(Sayian race) who are known to get stronger through intense training, fights, and defeats. Quoting from a wiki. 'Through tough training, Saiyans are able to reach new levels of power, and the more intense training and fights they go through, the stronger they become. If a Saiyan survives a near-death experience through extreme injury to the body, then, when the body recuperates, the Saiyan grows much stronger than they were previously, their body adapting to compensate for the damage dealt, essentially evolving their power, the more they fight. The duration of recovery does not seem to hinder this ability as Saiyans have healed through natural, technological and mystical means and still gained substantial increases in physical strength.'
@Avarage_White_Bryan
@Avarage_White_Bryan 16 күн бұрын
​@@TazrealeI really had to copy and paste your comment on chat gpt and tell it to rewrite a shorter version
@siegfriedc2332
@siegfriedc2332 14 күн бұрын
His record in Frieza saga is still pretty solid. I think it's more that Cell saga and Buu saga focussed more on passing the torch to Gohan, and highlighting a newer generation, respectively. Thus, there wasn't as much focus on Goku.
@Tazreale
@Tazreale 14 күн бұрын
@@siegfriedc2332 Actually, that was the original concept I read somewhere. When Gohan beat Cell, he was suppose to be the new MC. Like Goku was done, but that never happened. "Akira Toriyama always meant for Gohan to be the main character of Dragon Ball Z but he ended up feeling Gohan wasn't suited for the part. Goku symbolically passed the torch to Gohan during the Cell Games, and again tried to hand the fate of the Earth to the next generation during the Buu Saga."
@siegfriedc2332
@siegfriedc2332 14 күн бұрын
@@Tazreale Yeah, I heard that too. But he got pressured or something into giving Goku the spotlight again by the end of the Buu saga.
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 17 күн бұрын
5:20 he didnt give Gohan his Ki,he is only there in spirit giving him confidence
@tanman624
@tanman624 17 күн бұрын
YES SIRRRRR
@potatosalad3655
@potatosalad3655 12 күн бұрын
Hype man Goku
@bigpapan.g3245
@bigpapan.g3245 4 күн бұрын
*Teen Gohan gained power from Goku* - “Cell returns to Earth with power beyond his Perfect z form, a power equal to or even greater than that possessed by Gohan” (191, Dragon Ball Z Dragon Box Z Volume 5). Gohan would need to get a power up to beat someone stronger than him. Especially with additional statement claiming Super Cell to had returned equal or above Gohan before he lost use of his arm and was injured. -> _(I admit the Super Cell, Teen Gohan, and Dabura evidence is really debatable to gauge them across each other due to consistent evidence from additional material giving supporting evidence of superiority for each of these 3. I have no intentions to debate this specifically and if you disagree for prioritizing alternative evidence then I completely understand the disagreement.)_ - “Goku’s spirit gives the last of his power to Gohan” (vol. 35 / Chp. 415. Episode Guide) - “It contests with Cell’s final Kamehameha. Gohan had injured one of his arms, but borrowing power from Goku in the afterlife, it vanquishes Cell” (vol. 35 / Chp 415. Episode Guide) - “Gohan was also able to perform a Kamehameha with only his right arm to defeat Cell with support of Goku sensing his power from beyond” (p415) _I need to re-source where this directly is from_ - “the greatest and most powerful Kamehameha, produced from the power of Gohan’s anger and the power of Goku, who had died and gone to the afterlife” (Daizenshuu 2: Story Guide) *Confidence = Power* This is founded from how Ki works. - Toriyama explained that Ki includes 3 vital parts: Genki, Yuki, and Shoki (vigorous, courage,and right-mindedness).
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 4 күн бұрын
@@bigpapan.g3245 Tbh even at the end we do know Confidence played the biggest factor and there's also the fact Goku power being Ssj is Anime Only,in Manga he was in Base so it would literally be like helping someone lift a car with your finger,he also has no way of transfering his power as that can only done by Genkidama like techniques,the power he gave is most likely supposed to be representative not literal, it's also inconsistent to say Cell was stronger than Gohan and perhaps not even as strong as one has got to remember that Gohan showed that he could deal with Cell FP better than Goku and he actually didn't wanna fight wich is the reason he got stomped at first as he lacked both confidence or even intention so it's most likely worst case he is an equal and most likely superior and that would remain when they both go into their 2nd Forms, it's also consistent with how he compares with Dabura later on when he's lost condition who is directly compared to Cell and Goku says he might be even stronger though from context you can infer perhaps he was talking about his magic and this Gohan was weaker than the Gohan that fought Cell
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 4 күн бұрын
@@bigpapan.g3245 Like if he did give him his power that would have been over 100 times weaker than his FP and probably barely enough to restore Gohan to use his Full Energy.
@Zsuper.mp4
@Zsuper.mp4 18 күн бұрын
Random shade: yamcha getting his women stolen is worth like 10 loses
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
The fact that you brought this up over the time that he exploded
@sptflcrw8583
@sptflcrw8583 18 күн бұрын
​@@lonkstakesit's way worse. Getting killed in battle is way more honorable than getting cucked by the man who caused it.
@GOC7153
@GOC7153 18 күн бұрын
Wadd'ya mean? Yamaha never exploded. Closest thing to that is him getting touched by a green cabbage head and him getting fisted by an old man-bot
@XD_ist
@XD_ist 18 күн бұрын
Yamcha was the first person to beat Goku
@myduckisonqauck7227
@myduckisonqauck7227 17 күн бұрын
They were already broken up
@RancorSnp
@RancorSnp 18 күн бұрын
"Do you think Goku has a high win rate?" "Oh yeah, very up there" "The very first fight, against Radditz" "Ah... we're excluding OG, well that wil ltank the stats"
@tobin2.0
@tobin2.0 17 күн бұрын
Goku is the way he is because of Original Dragon ball, but since nobody ever watched it they make assumptions about his character
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 16 күн бұрын
Gotta save the good stuff for the end, lol
@hope14359
@hope14359 18 күн бұрын
7:23 YES! Thank you finaly someone with braincells
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
You're welcome
@mrmaxmarvel1762
@mrmaxmarvel1762 18 күн бұрын
I have a question. If a boxer says that he doesn't wanna fight and The other guy knocka him out, was it a draw?
@hope14359
@hope14359 18 күн бұрын
@@mrmaxmarvel1762 idk cuz there's no rules book or a referee out here so meh
@crimsondragon2711
@crimsondragon2711 18 күн бұрын
​@@mrmaxmarvel1762 No,but if both parties agree to end to end the match only for one of them to sneak at hit in at the end,would you consider that a win?
@hope14359
@hope14359 18 күн бұрын
@@mrmaxmarvel1762 also vegeta wanted a fight with goku using his full power but then he took desire from his own hands after attacking goku off guard so is vegeta contradicting himself right here ?
@TheSuperOtaku
@TheSuperOtaku 18 күн бұрын
That ain't Master Roshi, that's Jackie Chun
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 18 күн бұрын
Somehow I always forget how many fights he CRUSHED in OG DB.
@kevinsaga3525
@kevinsaga3525 18 күн бұрын
Yeah we definitely need super as well to round out Goku's record and we all NEED to study Vegeta's win rate
@johnwhite5212
@johnwhite5212 18 күн бұрын
You make a lot of good content. This one is just excellent, man. The way you've got it all laid out, the drop at the end. It's a classic.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@keyhaddock8909
@keyhaddock8909 18 күн бұрын
Im low-key interested to see what the percentage would be after super
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
Might be a future video!
@JoshuaGuevara7
@JoshuaGuevara7 14 күн бұрын
Pretty bad without tournament of power
@KLightning18
@KLightning18 14 күн бұрын
If we take the minor characters as wins, especially stuff like the red ribbon army, goku would just be insane 💀
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople 18 күн бұрын
What is Goku's Win/Loss Ratio in Dragon Ball Z?
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
That is indeed the title of the video
@Zsuper.mp4
@Zsuper.mp4 18 күн бұрын
Goku loses: Goku vs vegeta Goku vs raditz Goku vs ginyu Goku vs android 19 Goku vs cell Goku vs majin vegeta (thats if you count that as a win since vegeta snuck him)
@bobbob-ww6od
@bobbob-ww6od 18 күн бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@Zsuper.mp4
@Zsuper.mp4 18 күн бұрын
​@@bobbob-ww6od I listed it then I watched it
@bobbob-ww6od
@bobbob-ww6od 18 күн бұрын
@@Zsuper.mp4 not you meant the guy who made the first comment
@rodthedigger2902
@rodthedigger2902 18 күн бұрын
Great video!
@phromkatv
@phromkatv 18 күн бұрын
Of course he has less win in DBZ, bro literally died at the beggining of Z and most of the time he's either dead or somehow absent. That's made me question why the hell USA shown DBZ first, where the first thing they saw was their protagonist take an L and never seen again until the very end, at least in the rest of the world they started with OG Dragon Ball
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
It’s very odd infeed
@truewwechampion7831
@truewwechampion7831 18 күн бұрын
It was because og dragon ball was received very poorly when it first aired and they decided DBZ would be much more popular and successful which it was
@Alecations
@Alecations 17 күн бұрын
To be fair, kids seeing blood violence and the main protagonist immediately die was raw af
@skarloey1214
@skarloey1214 18 күн бұрын
Great video. 👍 I think doing the same for super and/or other Characters would be fun.
@thenerdywave2007
@thenerdywave2007 18 күн бұрын
Great Video! 👍
@Billyblue98
@Billyblue98 18 күн бұрын
I think you should have actually summarized the fights in og Dragon Ball Or maybe made that a part 2 prequel video I guess But yeah this sounds about right, lol
@KLightning18
@KLightning18 14 күн бұрын
1:36 Accurate comparison of sibling’s strength
@isaaccuevas1717
@isaaccuevas1717 18 күн бұрын
After vegeta feel back to earth after the kk4 Kamehameha,if he fought goku right there he would have killed him,
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
He did fight immediately after and if Gohan and Krillin hadnt returned it would have been over
@isaaccuevas1717
@isaaccuevas1717 18 күн бұрын
@@lonkstakes the great ape win more of a hindrance then anything l,he just became easier to dodge and gave goku time
@Zeno1781
@Zeno1781 18 күн бұрын
​@isaaccuevas1717 Yea. It also greatly reduced his battle power because of the spirit ball. Had vegeta not gotten so worked up, goku wouldn't have had time to charge his spirit bomb and krillin and gohan would have been too late to save him.
@guipa__
@guipa__ 18 күн бұрын
So while I do like the way you set the part about the Original DB up, I do wish you’d taken it into account when doing this since originally the manga was Dragon Ball from start to finish, and the Original DB and Z distinction came later
@feckboygurry832
@feckboygurry832 18 күн бұрын
For real, I would love a series around this, like a full version of og dragon ball, a gt version, super version, movie version, cause this is awesome
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 18 күн бұрын
No matter how many times Goku gets knocked down, he’ll get right back up and *EAT THAT HORSE! COME EAT THAT HORSE WITH ME PERSON READING THIS COMMENT!*
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
I will not
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 18 күн бұрын
@@lonkstakesaw crap baskets…
@ultra-instinctgoku3131
@ultra-instinctgoku3131 18 күн бұрын
​@@lonkstakesif you won't do it then i will because if i don't do it, then who will?
@Zeno1781
@Zeno1781 18 күн бұрын
HE WOULD GET UP AND EAT THAT HORSE. WHO'S WITH GOKU??
@julianvelarde464
@julianvelarde464 18 күн бұрын
I would like to see more videos like this
@neo84401
@neo84401 18 күн бұрын
Can i get a link to that big 3 video?
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 17 күн бұрын
Go for it for all the characters because that would be really cool on my opinion.
@NYGiantsfan1029
@NYGiantsfan1029 16 күн бұрын
In the sayain saga You can even say that had Vegeta’s pride not thrown him into a rage and cause him to use the Great Ape Transformation Vegeta kills them all. Vegeta says creating the fake moon causes his power to drop. A cooler head and without the fake moon. He could still easily overpower Goku and Gohan doesn’t transform
@Best_hater_ever
@Best_hater_ever 15 күн бұрын
I think it would be cool if you made a video on how the Generation of Miracles would preform in the NBA
@BraydenGallan
@BraydenGallan 18 күн бұрын
Can you make a goku vs all can he beat goku though characters
@208jdog
@208jdog 15 күн бұрын
I knew that OG dragon ball reference was coming in at the end. Its so obvious that it was around the corner
@JohnAlcott238
@JohnAlcott238 18 күн бұрын
You should do the other series
@MyNameIsPaulo54
@MyNameIsPaulo54 18 күн бұрын
I have a suggestion for a future episode in this series, I figure it’s gonna be down the line since The next couple videos are obvious. Goku in super, Z vegeta. Maybe a whole franchise gohan episode. But after all that. A fusion episode would be cool. See who takes more L’s gogeta or vegito (toss in gotenks for fun)
@jameshurricane3169
@jameshurricane3169 16 күн бұрын
Imagine the win rate with GT and Super added to it.
@No_Zzzom
@No_Zzzom 18 күн бұрын
Good stuff at the end. Was gonna say he literally ran the world circuit as a child lol
@charliebann5605
@charliebann5605 18 күн бұрын
I knew something was up when you didnt mention OG for most of the video lol
@chunkysaurus785
@chunkysaurus785 15 күн бұрын
Do Vegeta next!
@BlackHawke21
@BlackHawke21 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely would love to see his win rate in Super and GT. maybe even as a comparison, to see which Goku took home more dubs?
@novagod9893
@novagod9893 13 күн бұрын
fun fact. Vageta was ment to lose and die in the beam struggle in their first fight, but he had a massive fan base big enough that toriyama decided to take the storyline we have now.
@Unknown-bt5lk
@Unknown-bt5lk 15 күн бұрын
There’s a website I seen that had win/loss records for all the dbz characters cant remember what the websites called tho
@Ryan_Evans1
@Ryan_Evans1 11 күн бұрын
His world isn’t saved because he wins. His world is saved because he’s there.
@Georg3e
@Georg3e 17 күн бұрын
Ill watch the next one when you include EVERY goku fight throughout the canon of the dragonball franchise starting with dragon ball because MAN I'm telling you kid goku was ruthless when he was younger.
@coolboy9979
@coolboy9979 18 күн бұрын
Tbf wouldnt be surprised if it was 40% The whole series is about overcomming your limits and becomming stronger. Would be weird if he would have a 80% win rate in DBZ
@user-ct7ix8nz1w
@user-ct7ix8nz1w 14 күн бұрын
Tbf if he used Super, then his wr would be less, than 40%
@cr0wguitar
@cr0wguitar 15 күн бұрын
Vegito fight should have counted. Fusions are described as both parties existing simultaneously but represented as one. Whenever Vegito speaks, it's Vegeta and Goku speaking as one mind. But both would have memory as being the one to have said it. They're both having the experience and Fusions are so powerful because it closes gaps for both fighters involved. A simple example of this is that Vegeta is a tactician, and Goku is not. And inversely, Goku has more raw power than Vegeta. So you end up with a power-riddled, battle-hardened, (think both fighter's experience also fusing), tactician. And I would go as far to say that fusing leaves a permanent imprint, even after separating. Both fighters would remember what they had tapped into and use it later. Kinda like how Vegeta could still go SSJ2 after becoming Majin - since he got to experience what it felt like, he knew how to get there again. Goku seemingly becomes a much smarter fighter after fusing with Vegeta. He took Majin Buu seriously and it's the only fight in Z that he doesn't hold back from killing him. Which is why I found it surprising in Super that Whis had to reteach him to not hold back. But then again, Dragon Ball Goku was relentless and killed anyone. Maybe it's ChiChi's fault? XD
@pinkdmehn
@pinkdmehn 18 күн бұрын
Ive always wanted to know exactly this for goku since he isnt present in most fights. Would you be interested in doing one of these for invinvible? I think it would be kinda funny tbh
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
That might be hilarious actually
@pinkdmehn
@pinkdmehn 18 күн бұрын
@@lonkstakes imagine the invincible writer, who claims his character beats superman, saw this. Bro would be in tears
@theparkourmastergaming6392
@theparkourmastergaming6392 18 күн бұрын
I just finished watching OG Dragon Ball and I must say, I'm not disappointed. I think anyone who hasn't watched it should. It was a whole ton of fun watching Little Kid Goku go on adventures with his friends 😁👍 It's crazy different from what we see now. Like how it was actually a hunt, race, and adventure to find all the Dragon Balls. Like how climbing Korin Tower was actually a process and needed to climb and not just something you could fly up. The lookout looks so mysterious back then from now. Back then when Yamcha wasn't always made a joke out of. Back then when Launch was more utilized. I got a laugh everytime Launch sneezed. I had TONS of fun with the World Torunaments too. Ki blast spamming, punches and kicks spamming, but not in OG Dragon Ball. It's more raw Martial Arts, and skill.
@markusmitchell8585
@markusmitchell8585 18 күн бұрын
Goku dies heres a W lol wtf
@jg5004
@jg5004 3 күн бұрын
Goku may not have won all of his fights but he won our hearts and at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
@jextern7961
@jextern7961 17 күн бұрын
What’s funny is the Bigs 3s W/L ratio isn’t even accurate
@ViperineHero
@ViperineHero 18 күн бұрын
if i had a dollar for every win/lost series that came out recently for popular series i'd have 2 dollars excited to see where this goes
@Sinjuxt1
@Sinjuxt1 18 күн бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet, but I've thought about this recently, and I know in all of the Z portion of the story (excluding movies & filler) the only fights he wins with zero assistance from anyone else are vs Nappa, vs Recoome, vs Burter & Jeice, and vs Yakon (almost forgot that one). It's crazy.
@dire2293
@dire2293 16 күн бұрын
crazy as fuck to say that the fight leans in gokus favor when vegeta literally knocked him out, doesnt matter if he wasnt using full power, wouldnt matter if he tripped and knocked himself out, wins a win
@john-olivierlukama1548
@john-olivierlukama1548 15 күн бұрын
But the fight was over right? How can you call it a win when you hit someone AFTER the ending of the fight
@ThePhantomTomo
@ThePhantomTomo 15 күн бұрын
Yo fam hit us up with that Super, GT, movie and even Heroes W/L ratios if you've got it in you. And hell I wanna see Gohan's, Vegeta's, and Piccolo's too. I have to disagree about losing to Vegeta though. Blasting Vegeta away with the Kamehameha counts as a decisive victory to me, when Vegeta comes back and transforms that's a separate encounter. Both sides had a long stop to the action and formed new strategies and preparations that you don't get when there's just a short break. The fight would have gone very differently if it kept going from Vegeta's losing the beam struggle, and I'm not even just talking about the Great Ape transformation, the course of the fight changes drastically if Goku keeps up the pressure and attacks Vegeta while he's recovering from the blast. 100% agree with the decision about their rematch though. It's a draw because they totally agreed to stop fighting before Vegeta hit him from behind.
@mihaicovaciu6634
@mihaicovaciu6634 18 күн бұрын
Most enemies that Goku faced where allways stronger than him while Naruto was born Kage level, he was already the strongest of his village while Goku wasnt near strong like Freeza or even majin buu at the start of the series.
@JustSomeDudeOnTheInternet838
@JustSomeDudeOnTheInternet838 18 күн бұрын
Naruto was nowhere near the strongest in his village for a long time.
@account-pb2df
@account-pb2df 18 күн бұрын
He wasn't THE strongest in the village but Narutos hax get out of jail free card, made him at least jonin level any time he was about to lose a fight
@cole4939
@cole4939 18 күн бұрын
Do this for Yamcha for both DB and DBZ
@superlombax1561
@superlombax1561 16 күн бұрын
Tallying these up myself, I thought that Goku would've had 6 wins and 4 losses since I didn't count and forgot about Goku's solo encounter with Raditz as well as forgot about the Cell Jr. he fought. But yeah, I'd say this tally is pretty fair.
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 17 күн бұрын
So you didnt count Vegeta k.o ing him as the fight was inconclusive or a draw but Majin Buu inconclusive fight you put as a win?
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 17 күн бұрын
Yeah
@superlombax1561
@superlombax1561 16 күн бұрын
You mean the fight with Kid Buu? Cause Goku clearly killed him with the Spirit Bomb.
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 16 күн бұрын
@@superlombax1561 No fatty buu.
@superlombax1561
@superlombax1561 16 күн бұрын
@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 He didn't count that as a win towards the tally.
@obione51499
@obione51499 14 күн бұрын
Do it again please.
@EvelynWyd
@EvelynWyd 18 күн бұрын
Why not hop off Goku's tip! and say he lost to Cell, Vegeta, and Kid Buu. GAVE UP against Cell, then died later. Had his face literally in the dirt after Vegeta. And if it wasn't for Vegeta, Mr. Satan, and Earth, he would've lost to Kid Buu
@Arteaga4K
@Arteaga4K 18 күн бұрын
Shoulda woulda coulda. A win is a win, you probably count Majin Vegeta’s knockout as a win too
@ickle1790
@ickle1790 17 күн бұрын
id love a video like this for super ngl
@lightgivemepower6425
@lightgivemepower6425 16 күн бұрын
9:00 this is probably why goku has a nearly equal amount of L's and W's in Z, because the way he was Winning in OG Dragon Ball was kinda ridiculous and would probably bore the audience/readers if he won all the time in Z
@user-nk6mw9yw5n
@user-nk6mw9yw5n 16 күн бұрын
Please do Vegeta or super Goku
@Idkitzjushdc
@Idkitzjushdc 15 күн бұрын
Honestly, even if you count the wins/losses in OG Ball, you’d have to look at GT and Super as well and count the wins/losses he had there too. If you were, Goku might be sitting at a percentage of around 75%. Still higher than the “big 3”
@thirdworldrenegade
@thirdworldrenegade 14 күн бұрын
Some of this is subjective due to how one interprets a fight. I feel like anyone stepping in is the equivalent of throwing in the towel. Goku vs. Raditz, Round 1 Raditz one-shots Goku. I almost don't wanna call this a fight, but we've seen Dragon Ball tournament fights with similar outcomes, so Raditz gets the win. 0-1-0 Goku vs. Raditz, Round 2 While Piccolo was charging the Special Beam Cannon, Goku tried to hold off Raditz. Like before, he was outmatched. Although, he put up a better fight this time around. 0-2-0 Goku vs. Nappa This one's a bit tricky. Both are evenly matched. Vegeta, out of frustration decides to fight Goku. It isn't until Nappa sets his sights on Gohan and Krillin does Goku actually inflict serious damage on him, after their fight is over. You could say Goku won since Nappa backed out. 1-2-0 Goku vs. Vegeta Vegeta essentially had Goku dead to rights. Gohan and Krillin interfered, which no longer made it a one-on-one encounter, so Vegeta gets the win here. 1-3-0 Goku vs. Recoome What I think is Goku's first outright win in DBZ, no asterisk. He wiped the floor with Recoome. 2-3-0 Goku vs. Burter and Jeice Another easy win for Goku. 3-3-0 Goku vs. Captain Ginyu A fight that Goku could've won, but he decided to give Ginyu the benefit of the doubt, and the Captain took advantage by stealing his body. 3-4-0 Goku vs. Frieza, Round 1 I'm breaking this fight up into rounds. There was a big enough gap between each section of the fight to justify this. I'm giving Round 1 to Frieza because of Piccolo's interference. Goku was already on the back foot prior to Piccolo jumping in. Gohan and Krillin also attack Frieza while Goku's charging the Spirit Bomb. 3-5-0 Goku vs. Frieza, Round 2 Goku becomes a Super Saiyan and eventually overpowers Frieza. 4-5-0 Goku vs. Android 19 The heart virus affects Goku to the point where he's unable to fight. Vegeta interferes. If not for that, Goku would've most likely died. 4-6-0 Goku vs. Cell Goku gives up. Easy enough. 4-7-0 Goku vs. Yakon Blows up Yakon with his Super Saiyan energy. 5-7-0 Goku vs. Majin Vegeta This one's a draw. They agree to stop fighting and work together against Majin Buu. Vegeta knocks Goku out after. 5-7-1 Goku vs. Majin Buu Goku decides to leave. Whereas, Majin Buu wanted to keep fighting. This one's a forfeit on Goku's end, even if he had the upper hand. 5-8-1 Goku vs. Kid Buu While Goku does kill Kid Buu using the Super Spirit Bomb, in terms of the actual one-on-one fight, he doesn't fare too well. Goku's unable to fight at full power, so Vegeta steps in. Then, Fat Buu fights Kid Buu. Vegeta fights again after. It's difficult to give Goku the nod when he does very little fighting. 5-9-1 Goku vs. Beerus, Round 1 Beerus won with very little effort. 5-10-1 Goku vs. Beerus, Round 2 Even as a Super Saiyan God, Goku was no match for Beerus, but he left a lasting impression. 5-11-1 Goku vs. Frieza Goku had the upper hand against Frieza and then Sorbet struck him down with a laser. Goku wins due to interference. 6-11-1 Goku vs. Uub No one's feet hit the floor and Goku flew off with Uub on his back, or on Nimbus if referring to the Kanzenban ending. This one could safely be considered a draw. 6-11-2 W: 35.29% L: 64.70% Feel free to share your thoughts.
@Joshua_Rogers
@Joshua_Rogers 10 күн бұрын
To be fair, DBZ was originally not going to be about Goku. It was suppose to be Gohan'a story, which it largly still is. But Goku has many of the bigger fights and is considered the protagonist. Dragon Ball is Goku's story, which is why he has more fights and wins.
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap 17 күн бұрын
farming w's til the space aliens showed up hey, ain't that happened to boruto's dad?
@derpdude728
@derpdude728 15 күн бұрын
It does make sense cause master roshi teach goku about humility and it’s fine to lose cause it’ll help him train and get stronger
@MAJJASTAK
@MAJJASTAK 18 күн бұрын
Wait, we're not counting Goku fighting Uub ? Like, it IS part of Dragon Ball Z and not GT if i'm not wrong, but feel free to correct me if it's not the case.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
It’s part of Z. And you could count it as a win, but again it ultimately barely makes a difference…
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 17 күн бұрын
@@lonkstakes Wouldn't the W there make his Z-alone rating climb to 60%?.
@stevorito
@stevorito 18 күн бұрын
But Goku never give ki to Gohan in Father-son Kamehameha against Cell, he did do is he basically emotional supported and guided him during the beam struggle
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
It’s stated he did
@stevorito
@stevorito 18 күн бұрын
@@lonkstakes I double checked and no he didn't I might be wrong but if u tell me what moment goku give ki to gohan?
@crawdad1903
@crawdad1903 18 күн бұрын
W vid
@AbdullahIbnAbdullah-pk1kf
@AbdullahIbnAbdullah-pk1kf 16 күн бұрын
How do you start from Z and skip over all them loses in the Og Db
@Ne0S0ft
@Ne0S0ft 15 күн бұрын
Not only that but kid Goku literally comes back and defeats the enemies that beat him beforehand, not even after that long of a time span!
@ImTheStrongest
@ImTheStrongest 18 күн бұрын
I don't know. I wouldn't consider a win for the Z fighter a win for Goku unless Goku was the one to finish the job. First round Raditz. Goku lost. Second round Raditz. Goku didn't actually beat Raditz nor did Raditz beat Goku so I don't count that round. Goku beat Nappa. Goku wasn't the one who beat Vegeta and it was a clear lost to Goku where Goku was unable to fight back. Goku beat Raccoon. Goku beat Burter. Goku beat Jaice. Goku lost to Ginyu. Goku beat Frieza. Goku lost to 19. Goku lost to Cell. Goku lost to Cell Jr. Goku didn't give his energy to Gohan, only advice and encouragement. This one doesn't count. Goku defeat Yakon. Goku lost to Vegeta. Doesn't matter if it was done with a cheap shot. A win is still a win. Just like if a fight is rigged and your opponent wins because the fight is rigged. It's still considered a win for him even if the fight is rigged. Goku beat Fat Buu. Goku beat Kid Buu. So I count W-8 L-7
@artizzy2k2k
@artizzy2k2k 17 күн бұрын
People love to say Goku beats everybody even though the people he does beat are people way out of his league and he immediately gets humbled by the main threat. Which most of og Dragon Ball consist of people out of his league, and as seen with Z he lost more than he won at the end.
@ndiaz1982
@ndiaz1982 18 күн бұрын
I didn't watch the whole video yet, but if your going off the dragonball manga, why did you start with raditz?
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
To make the narrative of the video more interesting
@ndiaz1982
@ndiaz1982 18 күн бұрын
I'm leaving this comment up because it's my way of taking accountability
@omargarrido25
@omargarrido25 17 күн бұрын
You also forgot to count the w on the otherworld when he participated on the grand Kai tournament.
@ELChapoFG
@ELChapoFG 18 күн бұрын
Goku is such a great character! Truly a legend
@phloriaernas2149
@phloriaernas2149 18 күн бұрын
Kid Goku most of the time just straight up kills his enemies and get things done, thats why he has high win ratio. On the other hand Adult Goku wants to be a martial artist master. He wants to fully master his abilities and learn more. To do this, he intentionally let enemies do their tricks so that he could learn from them. But testing your enemy's best move could easily backfired, thats why Adult Goku doesn't have as high win ratio as his kid self.
@ssj4ssbgogeta957
@ssj4ssbgogeta957 18 күн бұрын
I would say Goku wasn’t given enough credit for what happened against Ginyu post body change. He didn’t just jump in front of Ginyu and saved Vegeta from having his body stolen once he did it again when he threw that Frog to intercept the second body Ginyu aimed at Vegeta ultimately saving everyone from taking the L and reducing Ginyu’s danger level to zero by making him a Frog.
@voiceunderthecovers
@voiceunderthecovers 18 күн бұрын
Why skip OG Dragon Ball? Thats a part of the “DBZ” manga.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
Watch the whole video
@BrolyTheLegendaryoriginalSSJ
@BrolyTheLegendaryoriginalSSJ 14 күн бұрын
Bro im telling you Z goku’s Prime is the namek saga bro
@TheGangBanger
@TheGangBanger 18 күн бұрын
👍
@avantgarde_interactive
@avantgarde_interactive 5 күн бұрын
Not only does kid Goku win a lot, but he kills a lot too. Who does adult Goku kill? Yakon and Pure Boo. Am I missing anyone?
@afroman6725
@afroman6725 4 күн бұрын
they brought gowasu into super just to remind everyone of the W
@burnum
@burnum 15 күн бұрын
A video about Vegito's winrate would be %0 since he doesn't actually win any of them.
@ObliCold
@ObliCold 14 күн бұрын
Imagine making a Goku win rate without including OG Dragon Ball
@ryanpatambang8858
@ryanpatambang8858 15 күн бұрын
Kid Goku literally destroyed an entire army, several demons and send a rabbit to the moon.
@goldengenesis6429
@goldengenesis6429 18 күн бұрын
you need to do it from dragon ball- dragon ball super
@mcfuddyrox
@mcfuddyrox 12 күн бұрын
We all know goku vs the big 3 goku wins… but what if we take peak big 3 and figure out at what point would goku lose to each of them. Sure ssjb goku DESTROYS gear 5 luffy. But what about ssj1 goku, or piccolo arc, or episode 1. I think this would be cool and no one is talking about it yet
@bobec2999
@bobec2999 18 күн бұрын
in goku vs majin vegeta I think it was pretty fair considering goku had the advantage of a dead body and vegeta with his babidi power up
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 18 күн бұрын
Angel body is objectively a worse boost than Majin
@baggelissonic
@baggelissonic 13 күн бұрын
Ah yes the good old "Dragon Ball Z" manga. The original work that Akira Toriyama wrote and was never originally published with that name :)
@cjizzle1001
@cjizzle1001 13 күн бұрын
Sorry anyway you slice it, I believe Goku took a loss in both Raditz battles. He couldn't defeat his brother after Gohan's blitz, got worked 90% of the fight and had to sacrifice his life while having Piccolo clean shop with his Ultimate. He assisted in saving the world yes, but he got dragged tbh. L for Goku
@SeiLa-zf1sf
@SeiLa-zf1sf 12 күн бұрын
Goku's win percentage in Dragon Ball OG should be 70-80%
@mitshah9869
@mitshah9869 14 күн бұрын
Quite frankly luffy from 1 piece can’t be counted as a part of Big 3 Instead Saitama should be given that honor
@paoloconti1999
@paoloconti1999 18 күн бұрын
To me goku win/loss rateo in z makes very sense, from the start to the end of the cell saga the story is paving the way for Gohan to take the mantle of Goku, even in the buu saga there is a bit of confusion on who is supposed to lead the fight against the enemy
@SinistralEpoch
@SinistralEpoch 18 күн бұрын
5:20 - Brother, it's good "conscience" not good consciousness.
@Auron1Roxas2
@Auron1Roxas2 16 күн бұрын
It's not a W for goku because he didn't defeat Raditz, that was piccolo. Saying they couldn't of won without goku is the same as saying they couldn't of won without piccolo since he's the one who killed raditz. So that one isn't a W. He also never beats kid buu, he very much needed help so no win there. DB doesn't matter since this list is about goku in Z so counting his fights as a kid when a lot of them were against very weak henchmen doesn't really matter.
@Hiper_F64
@Hiper_F64 18 күн бұрын
The reason why Goku won so often in OG Dragon Ball is because he was a Big Fish in a Small Pond, he was a kid Sayian against a lot of humans, most of them just soldiers who used only guns, tanks and other weapons. But the second fighters his level arrived, he stared taking L's
@j2sketchy
@j2sketchy 18 күн бұрын
Do Vegeta now
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