What is Technical Death Metal?

[@whatsinameme5258]

Songs Used: Stabwound by Necrophagist. Fathom Infinite Depth by Archspire. Veil of Maya by Cynic. Jealousy by Death. Thou Begone by Deicide. Earthborn Evolution by Beyond Creation. Accelerated Evolution by The Faceless. Knee Deep by and Sun of Nihility by Job For A Cowboy. Prison Song by System of a Down. Psuedo-Horizon by Wormed. Skin Coffin by Psycroptic. Behold (God I Am) by Allegaeon. The Anti-Cosmic Overload by Obscura. Black Hole Infinity by Bloodshot Dawn. Senseless Massacre by Rings of Saturn. Molecular Reconfiguration by Abiotic. Xenichrist by The Faceless. The Inevitable Degradation of Flesh by Nile. Colors by Between the Buried and Me (titles too long going by memory here) Phantasmagoria by Annihilator. The Zenith Passage. Hymn of Sanity by The Faceless. All Hail Science by Allegaeon. Bill Nye Theme Song. And Careless Whisper, I guess too. Faces Imploding by Rings of Saturn.

[@itsdokko2990]

i simply cannot get enough of cat-sounding fretless bass.

[@sgropiz455]

same bro, it's just so mesmerizing

[@stnkgtlrd]

meuuuu meooooow muuuuhhhh ooooooommmnnggghhh

[@MooseWilliams]

I heard a tech band the other day where the fretless bass sounded like Peter griffin’s laugh. I was going to comment it on the album, but decided not to just in case the bassist saw the comment and was unable to unhear it

[@guitarpro34]

​@@MooseWilliamsFor the love of God please tell me the name of the song

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

Name?

[@thekivster]

I think the difference between Prog death and tech death is that prog blends classic progressive rock and death metal with more light and shade. Tech death is more like regular death metal taken to the extreme.

[@mathgrindnoise]

I prefer the term sci-fi cosmic alien metal thank you very much

[@Eichro]

missed opportunity to say "some deathcore hybrid tech death bands are Abiotic and Xenobiotic"

[@MessofRed7]

babe wake up new Occulturation

[@Kriegter]

I think a good way to distinguish between prog and tech for anything is to differentiate complexity in songwriting/song structure vs complexity in riffs respectively. Overly simplified, prog is the brains while tech is the hands.

[@obscurecreation2166]

Glad that Lucid Collective is being shown the love it deserves. One of my favorite tech death records.

[@do_yohomework]

Stabwound is the perfect song to explain tech death to someone. If anything else played I woulda been upset lol

[@SunDragun]

It's always a good day when Occlunternation uploads!

[@ethankroll1801]

I am surprised to see that Deeds of Flesh is not on the video as they do pertain into the cosmic horrors somewhat as a subject in their later albums like the Nucleus album and Portals to Canaan. That would be a wonderful addition to the video itself. I feel like that Deeds of Flesh, Decrepit Birth, and other similar bands helped bring Tech Death into the very same light and mixing some of those classic examples of NY Brutal Death Metal (Suffocation) and Floridian Death Metal (Death, Obituary).

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

Origin should definitely been mentioned as the other kings right beside Necrophagist.

[@l2cherry854]

Fathom infinite depths is a song everyone should listen too.

[@morgothbauglir906]

For a band that's a bit more, optimistic so to speak, as well as having some really tasty composition, check out First Fragment.

[@JeffDbury]

first fragment is the premier tech death band.

[@Flugmorph]

fantastic video, subbed!

[@LordEarthWolf]

The Faceless’s Autotheism album is the biggest fedora tip in music form…

[@JN-xb6pq]

Highly accurate video, I like the nuanced distinction between prog death and tech death

[@BigBl0ck-r9y]

They all sound the same to me old school death sound more unique

[@toksic424]

Now I can't unhear the meowing bass.

[@FischerDefilementory]

Wormed doesn’t use inhales. You’re thinking of pig squeels, which are generally not inhaled. The only band I think uses inhales succesfully is Archspire

[@whatsinameme5258]

Guess I should've said inhales/pig squeals. My mistake.

[@happymonkeyfish]

Yayyy i was so excited to see this upload. Any of yall who havent heard of the band 'Inferi' should check them out, particularly "The Path of Apotheosis" their lyrics are less cringe science and more violent cosmos

[@LeGrandPleb]

Hi, hello, don't mind me. I'm just some guy to give the prerequisite comment asking "where's x band?" as though it's a personal slight that they weren't included despite the fact multiple other bands I like were mentioned, so anyways... Where's Soreption and Spawn of Possession?

[@particlejim]

Brutal Death Metal, Slam or Caveman Death Metal next pleeeeaaase :)

[@Mr.greenbutterfish]

Next you should do atomspheric black metal

[@toksic424]

Personally I'm not the biggest tech death fan but I absolutely adore Cryptopsy and Nile.

[@TheCalico]

Bro I just found your channel. Love the absolutely WIDE range of topics you cover lmao, keep it up!

[@zinAab79]

I think that the main difference between techdeath and progdeath is that techdeath can be convenctional in its presentation and more predictable sounding, if it has only harsh vocals, sci-fi transhumanism or alien album covers, complex and fast guitar parts with weird scales or neoclassical passages, relentless drumming and some deathcoreish touches is techdeath. Progdeath on the other side is much more varied and different, with a lot of clean vocal presence, stronger keyboards and external influence, things that you don't see in techdeath unless is proggy.

[@mmmmm4986]

First video were i heard of all the songs

[@Jackadiah]

As soon as I see an new Occulturation video, I play it No exceptions

[@metalmichew2]

It makes sense that Cynic and death fall under the prog death umbrella, but its weird that i enjoy both them AND necrophagist, but i fall asleep (literally, its not a joke) on any other tech death band

[@kevyn1016]

I personally like the older stuff better because alot of the new techdeath feels kinda overproduced and sterile

[@quochuynguyen764]

when I think of tech death I think of stuff like Demilich, Monstrosity, Cryptopsy, Suffocation, Immolation or Deicide's Legion, latest releases of Defeated Sanity and Anal Stabwound are also great but more on the brutal side, I guess I'm not a fan of the neoclassical, cosmic-sounding, Necrophagist inspired bands, like, they are metal, and technical but the music doesn't really feel "death" like older bands and some new bands

[@whatsinameme5258]

To me, those bands are more brutal death, or at least brutal/tech hybrids. I guess those would be more "death metal".

[@bitffald]

​@@whatsinameme5258 I think it's because some tech death bands have more neoclassical influence than others

[@Donald18838]

@@whatsinameme5258IMO suffocation is more tech death band with some brutal elements. Those songs are a mission to learn and play all the way through no matter the instrument lol.

[@geoundead9268]

Very analysis...can you do one about Brutal Death Metal?

[@DarkMetalGortex]

I always lean more towards the cosmic horror spectrum myself

[@dillanjohnson6797]

Do deathgrind next.

[@whatsinameme5258]

I like Deathgrind, but haven't listen to a lot. Got any recommendations?

[@ChooRoo]

OooOoh. My favourite genre...

[@nondesuwu]

i love these videos

[@childintime6453]

There were plenty of other tech death bands before necrophagist right? Even if you don't want to count Death or Atheist there still are Cryptopsy, Gorguts, Suffocation, Demilich and countless other more obscure bands

[@BrackenwoodVtuber]

Ouchie wouchie no reference to Origin?

[@deas3016]

necrophagist imo is not first tech death but the most inspired by other band.

[@srfproductions05]

You should see archspires lyrics now

[@BagofSchmidt]

Not be that guy but tech death existed before necrophagist

[@mylerwilson4879]

atheist and nocturnus were the originaters of the genre

[@kukquakk4716]

Yeah but they are basically responsible for the modern Tech Death scene being a thing

[@gregangelmusic]

I prefer to call the fretless bass sound "farty bass".

[@lebarak69]

My fave genre! Only bad thing is that it ruins slower metal for me like some deathcore and doom

[@danibeto]

Please Stoner Rock and Grindcore

[@failuretolaunchdrums]

Yesssss bois

[@Owlr4ider]

I wonder where you put a band like Opeth on this spectrum. Most people call Opeth either just a prog band, prog death or a whole host of other sub-genres, which is fitting considering their very diverse discography. Of course their last 4 albums completely abandoned the death part of their music but before those they were very much a death metal band in some way, shape, or form, though obviously not classic death nor melo-death. To me just calling Opeth a prog metal band, ala Dream Theater, misses a lot of what Opeth is about. Prog death seems like a much more natural label, though tech death may have some merits too considering how close these 2 sub-sub-genres are, hence my wonder, considering how well known and influential Opeth are.

[@FLAMETHROWER299]

Technical death metal parent genres: Death metal Heavy metal Progressive metal Extreme metal Jazz Fusion

[@bloodscribecreations]

Thank you for calling out the cringe soymetal that plagues the genre.

[@mylerwilson4879]

Metalheads when a nerdy sub genre of metal is infact, nerdy : *incomprehensible caveman noises*

[@mbmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmb]

Most of the “inhaling” you described is just exhaling. Otherwise fantastic video.

[@IGPalata69]

finally somebody knows what he is talking abt

[@80memes]

Some of the only tech death I’ve been able to actually get into is gojira’s tech death stuff, for some reason it’s just stuck with me more. They feel technical, but like, in a different way that I just prefer more then normal tech death

[@BigBl0ck-r9y]

They are not performing thicknikol master basion

[@statiic_hydra8678]

Tech death is cool and all, but I think I prefer a tech deck

[@Ellanvannin03]

Is brutal death metal like the middle ground between Death metal and technical death metal then?

[@whatsinameme5258]

Sort of. I think of Brutal Death as a mix of all the death metals.

[@Ellanvannin03]

@@whatsinameme5258 yeah to me brutal death metal bands like dying fetus, suffocation and crytopsy are the perfect mix of technical wankery and unga bunga caveman riffs

[@autistichades5552]

@@whatsinameme5258as someone who listens to a lot of Brutal Death Metal, I definitely don’t think it’s a hybrid of any sorts. Brutal Death is kind of predecessor to Tech Death, focusing on more experimental abrasive vocal styles and complex rhythms, but what separates Brutal from Tech is that Brutal Death focuses on abrasive production techniques resulting in a lack of timbre(basically meaning the entire band is playing a percussive role). The entire band adds to the “heaviness” of the track, all playing together to create a wall of textured noise that is unrelenting and uncompromising. I know that it technically isn’t that, but it’s the only way I can describe it. Brutal Death Metal is more underground, and typically adopts the rebellious, unappealing elements in their lyrical themes, titles, album art, etc. Some examples of more underground Brutal Death are bands like Disgorge(California), Condemned, Despondency and Stabbing. Other bands that are of note are Defeated Sanity(who are a mix of Brutal, Tech, and Prog), Italy’s Putridity(my personal favourite, an underrated band that takes every element of Brutal Death to its logical conclusion, some could argue being tech death too) and Anal Stabwound(a one-man project by Nikhil T., and started off as a more traditional Brutal band, before taking the Defeated Sanity route). Disentomb is another band I really like, mixing Brutal Death, Tech Death, and Deathcore, at least with their album Misery. If you want more examples, I recommend checking out the record labels Permeated Records and New Standard Elite.

[@jakk3957]

I LOVE THE FACELESS I LOVE THE FACELESS I LOVE THE FACELESS I LOVE THE FACELESS ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@fallen119]

You will love The Zenith Passage. It’s the same members as The Faceless. The continuation.

[@funtimewithhuskyman5601]

Prog/tech death is the ultimate no bitches genre

[@antares4975]

pig squeels are not inhales. especially not the examples of jawb fo' a cowboah

[@whatsinameme5258]

I think there are different types of pig squeals, but I could be wrong

[@antares4975]

@@whatsinameme5258 yeah it can be inhales, but as a serious death vocalist in that day inhales were seen as cheating :D you hear the difference to serjs inhale. It sound way more phase-y-ish than proper grindy death squeels.

[@Jaixaa]

grindcore video?

[@theinversion4269]

lmao didn't knew Allaegon had some cringe ass lyrical content. It might be in top 3 most soy lyrics, alongside with Brutal Truth and Cattle Decapitation.

[@lebarak69]

Enough to ruin the music for me 😂

[@fallen119]

Lyrics make me like them even more now!😃

[@schezo8678]

play puyo puyo

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

So you talk about Tech Death and forgetvto mention the other half of the coin that features Necrophagist on the one side? Where is the almighty Origin?! You pretty much have all Origin album covers as the background (the nebula)

[@brain288]

No deeds of flesh or origin-esp original for their space themed lyrics, idk about this guy

[@whatsinameme5258]

I've listened to a bit of Origin here and there. It's just that the "Bro Tech Death" like Archspire and Rings of Saturn was intro to the genre and I have a soft spot for it.

[@brain288]

@@whatsinameme5258 I get that, im just messing around, I do like some Archspire! I found the genre from the bands i mentioned lol so same thing

[@Kriegter]

If spacethrash is a techthrash subgenre then there should be sciencedeath

[@BigBl0ck-r9y]

Masterb3stion and boring same old school teck death was tecnical but still sounded raw and was not just as fast as posible all the time

[@BigSmoke-dn1ef]

pivo

[@FTCRW]

vsm?

[@FTCRW]

6:08 never listened to the band, but isn't that supposed to be satire? Isn't that an attempt to ridicule the masses for thinking pop-science is actual science? Basically lyrics on Dunning-Kruger effect or smth

[@whatsinameme5258]

I mean, it could be. But it doesn't really come off that way.

[@FTCRW]

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[@mylerwilson4879]

I read the lyrics and it read more like a prayer chant than anything. It’s not really liking these fools, it’s just worshipping as if science is a religion

[@moko9hoko]

Death metal thats trying to be technical. There saved y'all 8 minutes

[@quochuynguyen764]

Tech deaf doesn't really sound like death metal that is technical (deicide's legion, demilich, immolation, monstrosity,...)

[@moko9hoko]

@@quochuynguyen764 ok