What Makes A Great Personal Trainer In Today's Fitness Industry With Jordan Syatt | Mind Pump 2170

00:00 Intro
01:13 Mind Pump’s message of promoting the BEST trainers in the world.
03:00 His approach to health & fitness since becoming a father.
06:45 Being hyper-aware that your child is constantly downloading information.
10:35 How his business has changed, and the rise of fitness influencers.
18:32 Why access to too much information can be a bad thing.
24:07 The most important things he communicates to his clients.
30:10 Why is the fitness industry failing?
33:02 The importance of telling the TRUTH.
40:15 The welcome change of strength training in the gym.
45:37 His thoughts on companies like F45 or Orangetheory.
46:39 The difference between hating on a movement pattern vs. effort or intensity.
50:00 The prerequisites of being a great coach or trainer.
56:32 Jordan’s general guidelines around nutrition.
1:15:50 How does he feel about education with his kid?
1:20:19 Communicating the value of actively pursuing religion and spirituality.
1:38:39 His relationship and fears around money.
1:49:27 The big picture with his business.
1:54:54 A deep dive into Jordan’s business and financial streams.
2:08:13 The biggest roadblocks for people in the industry.
2:12:13 Where would he be without fitness?
2:14:37 Misconceptions that keep people out of the gym.
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[@GJK3]

Seven years of personal training under my belt. These guys have revolutionised the way I communicate with my clients. Educating them in terms they understand will yield much more credibility then sounding like you are reading directly from a medical journal

[@longho5836]

facts^

[@Mrs_wsmith88]

It’s weird how much we know about you guys through this podcast. Oddly enough, y’all feel like family!

[@mattTHEEgreat]

I love when faith was brought up, because there are actually a lot of crossovers between working out and fitness and practicing your religion . I definitely found faith again through fitness because a lot of the same principles apply. Not a lot of people make that connection. Such a great episode

[@Glenwyn]

I love how simple you guys make it. It's so hard sifting through all the bullshit that's out there. I love how real and transparent you guys are too. It's honestly so refreshing. And as someone who was formerly very influenced by the "woman" focused workouts and advertising, my mindset has very much shifted because of you guys, so thank you!

[@rosediaz3794]

This is a great one! New PT here and I’m all about learning as much as possible 🙏🏽

[@jackwright642]

I started watching for the fitness and health knowledge, but I stayed for the life knowledge. Kids, spirituality, business,, real vulnerability - you guys are fantastic, thanks for another amazing episode!

[@JakeEasley]

I always say, "You don't know what you don't know". Thanks for introducing me to Jordan!

[@Remydurroo]

Got my BS in Ex Sci, became a trainer with a goal to “heal the world of obesity”. Burnout hit & I was focused on the money over the goal. Have brought myself back to the “why” and the passion and the business follows

[@janfauzt]

To be honest, this is my first time hearing about Jordan and I love his vibe and love how mind pump is enjoying this episode. I also love his take on God. It's so refreshing to see fitness and faith in one episode. We need more episodes like this. 🙏

[@nlj4657]

I really appreciate the discussion around nutrition. I have struggled with my weight since having children. I have a history of obesity in the women of my biological family. I appreciate the discussion around CGMs! Love your channel and the trustworthy content!

[@brainharrington]

Boom! Been subbed to @jordansyatt for a few years now, love to see him here!

[@martine5716]

I'm a newbie, I've only been watching you guys for about a month, but I learnt more from you in that time than I have from anyone in the past two years. This episode was awesome and as a client I wish every trainer would take the time to watch it❤

[@janisjames7801]

I’ve never heard of Jordan but I’ll be following his content now. I just became a personal trainer so this was great timing for me. Thanks guys for all you do

[@Baggins511]

This is the podcast I have been waiting for! Jordan has been instrumental in my fitness journey for years. Mindpump and Jordan. A perfect combo! ❤

[@michaelschiller9570]

I'm excited to learn more about Jordan Syatt... I'm kinda new to lifting/fitness so thanks for bringing him on. I'm gonna look where I can find his content.

[@ChrisGatesFitness]

I'm in Jordan's coaching mentorship, and he and Mike have absolutely changed my business and my life. So glad to hear him on the pod! Loved this episode :)

[@SMarshall1125]

I’ve been watching Mind Pump for a week now and I am absolutely hooked on it!

[@undecidedstate3972]

Really interesting conversation! Speaking about money and kids, it reminds me of the lesson I took my son through when he was 6. We had been out for a 'Boys day' and I'd already spent a fair amount on movies, lunch, etc. My son saw a toy for $40 he really wanted and started to give me grief over. So I took out my phone and asked him, "If Mommy makes $20/hr, how many hours does she work to get $40? He answered 2, and I replied, that it's more than 2 as there's also tax you need to account for (13% here). So simplified, it's more like 2.5-3 hrs. I told him, "When Mommy gets home, if you ask her to turn around and go work 3 more hours for free and she says yes, I'll buy that toy for you." to which, he backed up, eyes wide and said "No way!" Ever since then, I've really worked with him to understand that every $1 represents effort + time investment to earn it. He's 11 now and saves for almost everything, and really seems to be able to control his impulse buying.

[@helenstefanovski934]

You guys are amazing !! Love your show and thank you for having Jordan on this video, he is amazing, totally love this guy 💕💕

[@kamisundstrom6277]

My two favorite podcasts combined!! Love everything about this video. 😃

[@JenniferTaylor-614]

Having all of you together is like my Superbowl! Thank you for all the life changing info!

[@monicatiano9042]

So excited for this! Long time follower of MP and Jordan. I’m always learning something new. Thank you for all you do.

[@amandalitts2830]

I searched for info on becoming a personal trainer and found you guys. After listening to this episode I am in love with you. I am even more excited now to get started. Thank you. 🎉❤

[@ddelaurier]

Just like you guys, I've only recently started following Jordan. Guess I've been living under a rock.

[@robino941]

I have followed Jordan Syatt for years, and he gives smart advice. Excellent episode! 🧠

[@revyrogue657]

Been binging your channel and going to the gym constantly for 2 months! 💪🏻

[@Jakebatz]

Great interview!! Really enjoyed it being 2 hours!! Couldn’t get enough of the wisdom!!

[@frostwolf-bi3yl]

This episode was amazing thank you guys is someone who has just started the personal trainer journey I really appreciate your content

[@mikelowrey2252]

Love the show! You always have such great guest with great knowledge,Ty 🙏🏽

[@Sweet_T316]

I'm so grateful to have people like you guys in the fitness space communicating the truth! Thank you!

[@MindPumpShow]

We're grateful for you

[@gitakp910]

I really enjoyed this episode, very informational. TY.

[@SteveK-ys2nl]

Thanks for this interview and for asking some excellent questions!

[@ItsN1key]

This was a great episode! Cheers to the team and Jordan:)

[@rkc61595]

Great episode! Definitely going to check out Jordan's content

[@leonardwimbley7948]

I worked as a trainer for 3 years. Got trainer of the year and still felt super insecure. Great episode. Plenty of good advise ad i want to get back into training and running a business.

[@claymonaro68]

Thanks for introducing us to Jordan, top bloke. Keep up the great work. Thanks for all this great content

[@melody4902]

Amazing stuff thanks guys. I reduced my volume on weekly workouts and gains just keep coming.

[@marlenaedwards364]

i don't charge anyone for my advice and even to join me for a workout. whatever knowledge i've gained thru working with personal trainers etc... i've given away. they literally ask me questions all the time, so thank you for the continuous knowledge you've blessed me with, that i can continue to add to my own knowledge and share with others

[@sarahvilmain3770]

So grateful for you guys!

[@njcruickshank6974]

Brilliant podcast!!! Really enjoyed this!! 👏👏👏

[@fortunatelebelo259]

Another mind-blowing episode!

[@collettebukucs5414]

Love to see that Jordan is a fit guy! Not an abnormal huge guy! 🙌

[@charlottesegal9166]

Thanks for the content!!

[@sunofwar]

The best podcast there is 😊

[@misaelparedes3075]

Great episode fellas I really like how you guys let everyone be open about there religious belief and also share your perspective without knocking the person down for there belief great content 👍🏽👍🏽

[@kakhead23]

I love this guy!

[@Pun28s]

Had to double back with another comment, 100% agree !..committing to health/fitness for me once iOvercame looks became more of a spiritual journey, again losing 206lbs it left me wondering what am iTruly capable of & what’s truly powering me also my perspective shifted to being grateful to pursue the best version of me & asking for forgiveness for mismanagement of my mind/body & spirit

[@myrachtn3]

As a mom of two boys, I am very deliberate in how I talk about exercise and nutrition. They've unfortunately witnessed my hubby's mom lose both of her legs above the knee a few years back because of blood clots due to smoking, poor diet, and a sedentary lifestyle. My hubby's mom is the same age as my mom (only 63) but because of her poor habits, if you saw the two of them side by side, you'd think MIL was 20 years older. My mom has her own health problems (type 2, obesity, arthritis, degenerative disc disease), so my hubby and I tell our kids that the choices we make (eating well and lifting weights) will not only affect how long we live but our quality of life when we get to our 60s-70s-80s (Lord willing).

[@wrightwoodwork]

I don't know about training people, but I do believe sometimes things get way overcomplicated.

[@Frankjustice6]

Needed this. Nice interview

[@TruthSubjective]

Thank you!!!

[@Nobodyyoucarabout]

Came for the fitness info Stayed for the fatherhood advice Im about to have some kids of my own soon, thanks for everything

[@tabithasantos9809]

Great episode!

[@Christinelsa]

Love Jordan. This is an amazing collaboration… please get together again soon!!!!❤❤

[@daylestevens50]

What a great video! The conversation around faith was interesting to listen to. I grew up in a strict religious family and currently am disinterested in organized religion. Too much preaching wrapped in guilt, shame and the wrath of god has made me want the distance. With that being said I do feel I am spiritual and feel that works for me in this season of my life. I think whatever works for you works for you and I think that is what they are saying too. For a while I felt working out WAS my religion as I feel it was getting me through a rough time in my life. There is definitely a connection. 😊

[@sunofwar]

Love you pod cast. 😊

[@your.fav.fit.dupree4943]

I'm curious what books on programming Jordan was talking about near the beginning! Loved this episode.

[@christineoboyle4597]

Pretty sure I broke the like button on this one! 😁

[@MindPumpShow]

@christineboyle4597 Winner Winner! Please email Ann [e-mail] with a screenshot of your youtube username, winning episode number, and the email address you would like the program under and we will get you hooked up!

[@gladius731971]

Love Jordan we his fan!!!!!!’

[@lanceelizondo6018]

Jordan mentioned a list of books on program design. Can we get that list in the program notes?

[@amygarbacz1]

Same question, I rewound the podcast 4 times and I couldn't get the name of the book

[@andrealouisenoon]

Hey guys! Amazing episode. I took so many good tidbits, as per usually with MP! Question.. not even sure you guys will see this but figured I'd take a shot.. I'm a new PT. I've got years of programming my own workouts but I'm new to programming clients workouts. Can you recommend any books or resources on programming? Thanks for being such an incredible source of information.

[@BadRobotXIII]

Sunday night Mind Pump!

[@miquelordinas3006]

Heyy, maybe you could dedicate one episode on college athletes, how to program, best exercises, balance sport practice with the weights for improved performance... would be great. Thanks!

[@MindPumpShow]

Thanks for the idea!

[@Gardenofme83]

Woop Woop! Wig guy trainer!!

[@MindPumpShow]

Lol

[@Maniak-e8b]

i live in montreal and am dreading picking a personal trainer out of a whim on random, you never know whether it will be a good one. will online coaching be an option? and how will it work

[@PeterJones74]

Good morning guys! 💪

[@hockeymomavalon2499]

I always reference Jordan's videos even with the Harry Potter nonsense lol

[@thereforesheis]

Awesome 🩵

[@blakwj20]

Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and Rivera - sure the Yankees have their core four, but what Mind Pump and Syatt have done for the fitness/nutrition space surpasses all those World Series championships for the Yankees.

[@MindPumpShow]

🫡

[@ItsmeStaygoldkid]

Great video as always. I have been watching a lot of your content. I do have a ? I have been on a 1,650 calorie deficit for about 5 months now. I lost I bit of weight. Went from 210lbs down 162lbs. I’m trying to reach 150lbs. Lately I have low energy and feeling hungry all the time. Should I increase my calories?

[@DustinLJ]

I would love some book recommendations on programing! Currently reading a book called "Science of stretch" then moving onto "Science of resistance training". I need more learning materials!

[@ara912]

Jordan I believe that you being a man of faith and you said it yourself God is above us all… so having the faith that he trusted you in this path and has given you what you have .. then trust and have faith that as long as you continue to have him on your side nothing can go wrong … ANY MAN THAT ISNIN BUSINESS WITH GOD HAS NO COMPETITION 😊

[@larrycallaway8835]

Jordan mentions several books to read to improve programming and keeping personal training interesting...any chance you have that list?

[@ashadrony3553]

Awesome

[@Eman123412]

I want those programmes for free 😅

[@calebyoung88]

Hey Doug, what was the website for the free mobility seminar?

[@MindPumpShow]

Mapsprimewebinar.com And Primeprowebinar.com

[@heidiverdecia965]

I really need symmetry. Been struggling here!

[@gladius731971]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤I sleep With you guys . Listening of course!😴🥰😘

[@Negrofifthpushingkg]

Thanks MINDPUMP as Trainer in LA fitness IL . I appreciate everything you do for us . I am proud to say I’m MINDPUMP trainer.

[@BadRobotXIII]

What location? I'm in IL too. I got some goals I could use some guidance on.

[@nathanielasaba5001]

50:10 - Does leaning on youtube count?

[@MrJonsworld78]

A good personal trainer is just as valuable as doctors and health insurance!!

[@michelepeterson5765]

Usually I keep my opinions to myself but I need to voice it today. I would love for you to go to a different state and look at public schools. Some of your comments where you throw all schooling together as failing society is disheartening. I am a public school teacher. I work very hard to help each child that walks through my door. I look for their gifts and try to develop them. But I also look for their struggles, and I help them with those as well. Am I perfect, heavens, no. Do I try to teach responsibility, yes. You, as a parent, may work on that at home too. That is fantastic! But the sad truth, many parents don’t. They want their children’s life to be easy and stress free. That causes them to become very lazy, complacent, and lack work ethic. Without our school system. We would have more struggles than we do now. Just a different point of view from someone that’s in the school trenches day after day.

[@ara912]

Sorry guy Kim had the big influence on BBL for butt implants surgeries spiked up.. actually the big butt trend was set by JLO when she did Selena movie .. just saying before that movie most women looked at Barbie body as the perfect body

[@The40yearoldVegan]

Our food system needs an overhaul sure I’m biased. However, I did work as an inspector and knowing what I do however anecdotal I’d say to anyone to invest time looking into what’s fed to animals including antibiotics, drugs and take a look at pathogens aka “food poisoning”. Look at how many contract them and you can get a good picture on what’s really the driver of chronic disease and illness.

[@suleiman1520]

Is this guy related in any way to Lee Syatt lol

[@MindPumpShow]

Brothers

[@jacoblogmet]

Boom

[@justingonzales4935]

He reminds me of Mighty Mouse! (Demetrious Johnson) Sounds like him, kind of resembles him

[@Eric-jk4ud]

I’m a little mad at sal for putting the idea out in the world that my macadamia nuts could possibly spike my glucose levels 😂

[@MindPumpShow]

Lol

[@Szilvia_Szilvia]

01:06:16 glycemic index is a myth, has already been proven invalid, differs from person to person, differs in the same person depending on current bodyweight, health status, and loads of other confounding factors. Still, good for you Jordan, it is your personal decision, just please don't tell people to do the same, because it's not a good thing. Any sugar spike above a VERY small personal threshold result in intermittent high blood glucose that is damaging for the human body. See previous comment. It's NOT JUST about bodyweight!

[@Szilvia_Szilvia]

01:01:30 the problem with that Adam is, that yeah you can stay fit now, what you don't know or disregard is that you don't yet see how those foods chip away from the end ofyour lifespan and also from your healthspan, and the by the time people realize that it is too late. Then they are there at older age with a chronic disease caused in most cases by chronic systemic inflammation that is caused by "eating processed food and staying fit when they were young"... and then they are even told by MDs & society that their illness is "normal and part of aging". That's total BS. But that's how they can't teach the next generation NOT to do that, even if they can stay fit... It's time we break that cycle and start making people aware of the truth NOW. Teach them about the long term effects of their daily nutritional decisions. Show the coming generations that you can age without disease and can stay fit well into old age. But in order to do that, you have to be conscious about each meal you choose. Sorry for the rant.😅

[@fluoxetinejunky]

Totally…. Paralysis by analysis

[@David-xg5uu]

These are all old talking points.They are not wrong, but I feel like I could have written the script for this episode, there was no new perspectives that I recognized.

[@MindPumpAdam]

😂

[@BrendanMichael]

Day 1,001,569 of commenting to win the workout program

[@ArseniusFitness]

You don’t need fiber in your diet , learn nutrition

[@Siegbert85]

You lost me at the religious stuff... "The universe and crystals"? Wtf are you on about? I don't find it hard not to buy into any of that unfounded nonsense... How about you provide some evidence for "god" first before making fun of me?

[@tristanmariano6736]

Another great episode you guys have! Thank you for everything that you do for the fitness community!🫶🏼

[@vljackson4181]

What books would you recommend for program design thanks in advance 🫶🏽

[@MindPumpShow]

Periodization Theory and Methodology of Training and The Muscle and Strength Pyramid: Training These are both great^

[@rawan.jahjah]

This was insanely educational, factually rich, emotionally dense 🤍 it's a life course in 2 hours