What NO ONE Tells You About Linen Clothing (Hot Weather Style)

[@RealMenRealStyle]

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[@nielevans2947]

@RealMenRealStyle What are your thoughts on buying a linen blend like a cotton linen blend? Doesn't the blend make it easier to care for, softer, and less wrinkly?

[@justsomerandomnesss604]

How long will this deal last? I'm very tempted to pick something up but I usually wait a few days before ordering (or at least I tell myself that to make me feel good)

[@ryandaverayla4910]

Here in the Philippines, Linen used to be the fabric of choice for most people. These days, not so much. It is great to see someone talk about the qualities of this fabric to illustrate to people that it is best worn in tropical climates. We are currently experiencing a heat wave, linen should be making a major comeback here.

[@silverjohn6037]

If I remember correctly flax, where linen fibers come from, doesn't do too well in very hot climates. Is it grown locally or does it have to be imported? That might have an impact.

[@thatoneguy7047]

I was just debating on whether to buy some linen clothing here in the US or wait until we land in Cebu next week. I'm going to do my shopping before our trip. Thanks for sharing!

[@carluyabut1461]

Literally just bought a couple of linen pieces cuz I couldn’t breathe in anything these days. Pang survival na talaga ngayon sa init 🔥🔥🔥

[@ryandaverayla4910]

@@silverjohn6037 I'm not sure if imported or grown locally. there are a variety of fabrics coming from locally grown cotton and other materials.

[@ryandaverayla4910]

@@carluyabut1461 indeed po. napakainit na

[@mnk9073]

Linen is THE god-tier fabric for any place that surpasses 20 degrees. I own tweed for November to April and linen for Mai to October. Nothing more satisfactory than showing up to a signing in a linen suit all cool and comfortable while the guy making thrice my wage being all redfaced, drippin (in a bad way) and close to a heat stroke in his 2k wool twill. But it's less formal I hear you say, I take "less formal" over contracts with sweat stains all day every day, thank you very much.

[@kitefan1]

There is a wool that is better for the heat than others. Tropical worsted. Wool also breathes when wet.

[@Honeybadger_525]

I discovered the benefits of linen the first time I wore historically accurate period clothing at a renaissance fair. Despite having on 3 layers of fabric (a linen shirt and linen and wool doublet) once I started sweating I stayed comfortable the rest of the afternoon despite the temperatures being in the upper 80’s low 90’s. The fact that linen dries so quickly meant I could take advantage of a breeze and get natural AC

[@TyrianHaze]

It's basically an evaporative cooler right on your skin.

[@mph7282]

Living in the South, linen is your best friend. Trousers, shorts, shirts, jackets, suits, caps...trust me...just wear the linen.

[@ungrateful-66]

Yeah, but I have all kinds of Linen clothes though rarely bother wearing them because regardless of the kind of linen, unlike Mulberry silk which just "flows" especially while I'm out jogging every morning or evening, linen has that "stiff" quality to it which not even regular (stinky) cotton does. So linen does always "look great" (I agree-of course), but is always a stiff type of fabric.

[@ungrateful-66]

What I love about linen the most is that it doesn't look messy to wear even if having a few slight wrinkles.

[@emmanuel9546]

@@ungrateful-66 Do you know that have many kind weights of linen? So, you just need to find a thin soft fabric. Unfortunately, where I lived, online store not always informs that. I have more heavy linen, and other more light. But the stiff ones, usually are the cheapest...

[@ABC-rh7zc]

Some linens are paper thin and low quality but cheap. Many people may try those and be disappointed. High quality Irish linen is what you should go for, Even if a linen is thicker and heavier it still breathes will and keeps you cool, but the thicker fabric will be more durable and strong and will wrinkle less.

[@silverjohn6037]

Funny you call it paper thin as linen fibers is what paper money used to be made of before countries went to synthetic bills.

[@Elgringo2180]

Egyptian linen is the best in the world mate 🤌

[@ABC-rh7zc]

@@Elgringo2180 You are probably thinking of Egyptian cotton, not linen

[@vr2crossquake705]

@@ABC-rh7zc he isn’t wrong

[@overbuiltlimited]

Guess I've never had the "right" linen then. The guy mentioned practicality. Well, to me it's not very practical to spend 30 minutes ironing a shirt. Linen wrinkles horribly. By the time you get to wherever you're going you look like you slept on a park bench in the shirt.

[@Shreadington]

All my linen is about 25+ years old from Banana Republic. Button up shirts and shorts. Bought it in my early 20s. It's soft and still looks good. Even on sale it wasn't cheap but it's been great quality stuff I've worn every summer since.

[@cristinelgheorghiu5294]

Banana Republic are no longer what they used to be in terms of quality fabric. You're lucky to keep them and care them for such a long time.

[@Shreadington]

@@cristinelgheorghiu5294 most definitely. the only thing that wore out was the crouch of the draw string pants I had. After a while I had to throw them away. Everything else is still in good shape.

[@Yoknapataphaw]

So true I still have my old banana cloth but he newer stuff it’s eh.

[@CalebBaker500]

Same here. I have a 10 year old banana Republic shirt that still looks amazing. But a more recent shirt I purchased shrank immediately and is pilling up after barely a year.

[@raptortown]

Linen is must for those SUPER hot days in the summer. Wear it for the first time last year and it now a must for those crazy hot days or even just regular hot days

[@TheRikyaguilar]

I wish i could share in here a picture of myself a few years ago wearing loafers, linen trousers, a linen Henley, and a Panama hat. It was a backyard shindig at a friend's house at the end of July. I was really comfortable and easily the best dressed man in that yard. Whenever i visit family in Arizona when it's hot (when isn't it hot in Arizona?!), I break out the loafers and the linen! I get looks from people since most don't wear linen in the Phoenix area, but I've just learned to embrace the looks. I may not be sexy, but I'm stylish and I know it!

[@cameronvallejo4157]

How stylish ! I’d like to get similar outfit or sometimes daydreaming of some beige suit from breathable fabric like linen toppled with a sleek Panama hat. I must admit summer is my most challenging season to find my own style and comfort

[@gintongaparador999]

I had a dream where I first experienced wearing linen clothing despite never hearing of it before because most my clothes were cotton. I remember the texture and look of it in my dream and when I wore it, I felt so amazing.

[@macho7308-L]

Greetings from Greece. Linen is one of the greatest fabrics. Here in Greece especially in the summertime is a must.

[@johnshields3658]

I live in Zambia, and linen makes up about 90% of my wardrobe, and even more in terms of what I actually wear day to day.

[@naderelshafei]

Very proud that you mentioned us !! we are the masters of Egyptian linen ,,,much respect & love to you from Cairo)

[@meyr1992]

you acting like you invented space rockets (Love from egypt too)

[@robinthegrape]

Egypt holds way more wisdom than people wanna recognize

[@chadsmith3722]

I own 2 linen suits and multiple long and short sleeved linen shirts. They are great in the Aussie Summers.

[@jacobnoergaard]

I've bought linen shirts for years. We live in Denmark which is pretty cold but we frequently travel to hot destinations and a linen shirt is just a bit more cool and classy than a t-shirt.

[@starwarfan8342]

As a Floridian who has not yet watched the video, I agree with everything you said. Linen ftw

[@RannPatterson]

Hello! I’m sliding in to make a comment. I just purchased my first 100% linen blouses and I’m hooked! I live in the deep south where it’s hot and humid 10/12 months. I’ve always been a cotton person but the linen is so soft, comfortable and breathable, now I’m spoiled. They weren’t cheap so thank you for the informative review about the durability of 100% linen. Now that I know that I’ll buy several more. I think your color suggestions for guys was spot-on, I think a man looks really good in pink/pastels and the sage color you had on would look good on just about anyone and useful year-round. I just left a review for mine and I’m having a serious linen-crush . This has to be the holy grail of fabrics. Thanks for your enjoyable and informative videos.

[@TheBlackToedOne]

LOOOVE my linen shirts. So incredibly comfortable. It feels and looks so much classier than all the other materials. Walk in to a gathering or just some place in public like a restaurant or a lounge or - anything - and you are already at least a full level above everyone else. It's like it gives its wearer a completely different mindset.

[@LifeAndFaithTogether]

Well said. I’ve lived most of my life in the heat of south Texas and the humidity of east Texas. Looking back through the years, my favorite and most durable shirts and sport coats were 100% linen. To maintain the linen sport coat, I bought a midsized steamer. The steamer also works great tool with wool suits.

[@Rogue.Warrior]

Interestingly too is that Texas has its own native flax.

[@Bettencourt_]

Wore a few linen pants and clothes last summer for the first time. That was a game changer.

[@PatternRecognitionMusic]

I love my linen shirts. Last year, I found a white linen shirt that was perfect in every way, so I went back and bought a whole stack of them. I've also got some linen pants and jackets, and even a white linen suit for certain occasions.

[@EllLeslie]

If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy your linen shirts from?

[@PatternRecognitionMusic]

@@EllLeslie I found them at Macy's. I'm glad I stocked up, I don't see them this year.

[@PaulProsperInvestments]

I retired from the military and relocated back home to Jamaica. Slowly changing out my entire wardrobe to linen. I don't wear my cotton polos and shorts anymore. Linen is it!

[@mishmohd]

this fella taught me how to dress for work when no one would 15 years ago.

[@gamerghost3710]

I second that 👍

[@effervescentrelief]

I needed this video. I've been struggling for some time with clothing options as I live in the desert southwest, and what a life saver this video is. Thank you.

[@Roberto-tu5re]

I love linen in summer and trust me it is hot here in Southern Spain. It is the best fabric for the heat and to look good, plus the creases suit my boho vibe image thing. Great video as always.

[@crawfordkmcdonald7313]

I have linen sheets on my bed, the feelinf of laying down after a hot day is amazing

[@ManwithScents]

Linen is a wonderful fabric! One of my favorites, and I don’t mind the extra ironing!🙌

[@RealMenRealStyle]

Me too!

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Linen is the only fabric I can wear on hot days, it makes a huge difference in staying cool and dry. This year I finally completed my whole summer capsule in 100% linen, nearly everything else is put away until November. (I left out a few very light cotton sweaters and leggings for cool mornings). I love linen jersey, too, in addition to the classic woven linen fabrics. It’s slightly warmer than woven versions, but still very cool, it stretches and doesn’t need ironing. Ironing linen is very hot work, which is why I have so many items in it: I wash them as needed, then will iron everything thoroughly when the weather cools down. My little laundry room doesn’t cool down below the mid-80s for the whole summer, I just can’t iron then, even with my big fan (my ironing board can’t be moved easily and it’s not that much cooler in my other rooms anyway). My tip for washing linen is to use the machine’s gentle cycle to reduce wrinkling. The linen items will come out sopping wet because of the slow spin cycle, but I just hang dry them, they can drip onto a towel or pan (a brand-new kitty litter box is perfect for this, and cheap). Linen dries quickly, doesn’t shrink and is eco-friendly. Flax, the plant from which linen fiber is derived, needs neither irrigation, nor chemicals, if grown where it thrives naturally, Europe and similar-climate parts of Asia.

[@ilmizarnanda]

As a man who lives in bengkalis island,indonesia my wardrobe full of linen😂.here so hot especially when summer kick in(well,summer is just the only season we have here)😂.

[@NickRossi]

I am seriously happy you are sponsored by John Henric. I've never heard of/been to their website, but the clothes are just awesome! Classic and timeless looks that won't break the bank.

[@Alarcahu]

Easily my favourite fabric. Best thing for an Aussie summer… and spring and autumn

[@TruthWillSetYouFree832]

Came here because my husband was gifted a linen blend shirt and I need to get creases out and generally want to know more about it. I love the way you explain everything you do about linen and now I'm excited to possibly add more to his wardrobe. I like your style (pun intended)!

[@williamsugden5159]

Thank you for the tips. Very thorough.

[@persieprince9345]

Linen is great fabric the last summer i had great experience wearing linen pants very comfortable and stylish

[@Magic_monkey_man]

Even regardless of style, linen is one of the best options for an outdoor base layer. Way better than any synthetic. But there's more profit in selling stretchy plastic clothes so we don't have many linen options

[@ak5659]

Linen is pretty indestructible. I've only ever had to toss linen when the color has faded in too blotchy a manner to dye. My daughter inherited linen bedsheets from her great grandmother. She wove them by hand in the early 1920's. They still look brand new.

[@thatoneguy7047]

Perfect timing! I'm heading to the Philippines next week and it's going to be hot and humid as hell. Time to go shopping. Great video, as always! TFPU!

[@dustincatacutan9015]

My staple shirts for quite some time now - around 6 years. I get mine from uniqlo and h&m. Best paired with chinos, jeans and cotton shorts. It also goes well with loafers and minimalist white sneakers. Im from the philippines

[@kevinorr6880]

I grew up in O’side. Now do an episode on quality seersucker

[@Zaegel74]

Thanks for the video. Just bought a new mattress and washed my linen bed skirt for the first time (after years living with dogs). It not only survived but looks great. Your advice is gold! TK again

[@appalachiangunman9589]

I have a couple of 100% linen shirts, and one that is 55/45 linen/cotton. Those are the coolest shirts I’ve ever owned. Many people assume that polyester polos, tees, etc being thin and lightweight will be cool but is actually quite the opposite. Synthetic fibers do not breathe good and will cause you to sweat a lot more.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

As a woman, and a long-term stylist, I suggest trying that mint or pink shown on the quick glance at the website as an extra color, especially for those with cool-toned coloring, we ladies love men in light colors. (Of, course, after your basic white, pale blue and stripe as suggested in the video). For those men with warm-toned skin, khaki green or a warm beige is great, too. A navy or beige linen suit (with breathable lining) is a great option for summer informal meetings, dates or casual weddings or other events. You’ll wear it more than you think because it’s so cool and comfy.

[@blakewineinger9176]

I'm planning on sewing my own linen shirt for summer work. It should help a lot with our summer humidity.

[@vincidicaprio298]

Recently purchased a Sauce Origin pair of jeans with 13% linen and they feel so great, feels like they will last a lifetime!

[@a24-45]

One thing I like about 100% linen is that it has this weird quality I call "bounce". What I mean is that linen fabric doesn't like to squash flat; unlike some more loose-weave 100% cottons, which can crumple and collapse like a dishrag. Linen may crinkle, yet paradoxically it has innate shape. So it always tends to hang well, even if creased. This is why tailored pants and even an unlined jacket of linen can look dressy. So linen is just perfect for the summers where I live which are very high in humidity. I love how linen doesn't cling to sweaty skin, (the bounce makes the fabric sit slightly away from the body and therefore feel cooler than cotton). Always give any linen garment you are thinking of buying the "crush" test, by crushing a portion in your closed fist -- it should want to bounce back into shape when you open your fist, not lie there limply like a used tissue. TIP: cheap linens do feel rough at first, but soften nicely with washing as the video says. Top quality linens do not feel rough at all, even at the beginning. NB do not get cotton/linen blends ], they are too droopy and clingy and lack enough bounce. They are good for teatowels though.

[@kyproset]

Thank you, sir, for the additional valuable info on linen. I love it as here where I live, it gets hot in the summer. It's a wonderful material and it looks classy as well.

[@Nick.Brough]

2 years ago I bought a linen shirt from my favourite shirtmaker for a trip to Egypt. Now own 5 more, bought off-season to get the best deals. Paired up with linen blazers and chinos you really can't go wrong.

[@BaptistJoshua]

I got a pair of linen pants and put them on and instantly felt super great. No idea why. Just felt wonderful. Later I learned that their frequency is 5,000, which is SUPER good for health, so long as you do not also wear wool. Wool is also 5,000 in frequency, but in the opposite direction, so they cancel each other out.

[@iroseland]

Ah! Linen i always have same shirts and dress pants around. It makes summer more comfortable. Also, i really miss the kinds of stuff i was able to get back in the mid 90s. I had a couple of pairs of really nice linen silk blend dress pants imported from Italy. They fit wonderfully, had really good drape, were heavy enough for year round.

[@thechappist]

If ironing is the Achilles heel, you can always use a steamer. I think I steamed four of my shirts yesterday in half or less than half the time it would take to iron; and it looked great.

[@ChronicAndIronic]

I bought a white linen shirt from my brother’s company that he worked for at the time, didn’t know it was linen and ended up loving it. I’m stationed in hawaii it works wonder here

[@williamkazak469]

I agree that white linen can be a wonderful staple in the summer. I have two of them. Also colors! Light blue, coral, dark blue and yellow/gold.

[@benjaminwoodard4523]

Love your videos. This one is especially relevant to my wardrobe. I was inspired by the opening scene in 2006 Casino Royal. Since then I have become well acquainted with linen and its virtues. You mentioned a lot of great tips and I would like to add a few tips that I have picked up along the way. You mentioned that linen should fit on the looser side. This is true for the added benefits of maximizing the breathablity. It is also important because linen will separate at seams that are stressed. The back of the arm seam and the seat of the trousers can tear/separate if too tight. Linen also can stretch through wear, in my experience. Linen blends seem to not wrinkle as much. Linen can give a you sophisticated look while being incredibly comfortable. Linen is a long fiber, so it is twice as strong as cotton,or so I’m told. This also makes linen more stain resistant, in my experience. I avoid washing linen with other fabrics, like towels.

[@yannynao]

I come from a generation who wore pure linen/cotton all through childhood and teens. Then came terricoat(tricot), We would wear terricoat shirts at special occasions. During that time linen was not that respected. But I am happy it got back the respect it deserved.

[@elisaquinzi2021]

just bought a muted sunshine yellow linen shirt that looks great with a light tan linen blazer.

[@thisiskjsworld]

Right on time. I’m looking into my first linen breathable shirts, because wearing tank tops and beaters all summer will only get me so far in occasions lol

[@shawn576]

Interesting. I'm searching yt for summer work clothing to stay cool and it seems like I have the same concerns as people who wear suits. Thanks for the info!

[@johnp3971]

I love the videos that use your music intro, it gets me pumped up to look good!

[@jtlegionnaire6310]

This is so perfect, I'm getting married this Summer and am planning me and my groomsmen attire to be linen. Thanks!

[@ChasingMyLiberty]

I live in Odessa Texas now and this is a must. Also, I see why you left West Texas Antonio.

[@Banzai431]

I have a ton of linen in my wardrobe. Then again, I live in the tropics, so it's light cotton and linen unless you like dripping in sweat after only 10 minutes outdoors.

[@BEAMChannel]

I sew and right now I have 10 yards of white linen sitting on my table about to become shirts. As soon as a good sale happens I will order more

[@alexmarques2398]

Those colours look good on you, even if you have dark hair. Simple and classy. 😎👍

[@kletts42]

I discovered linen a couple years ago. It is very good for a St. Louis summer.

[@LunesLunacy]

Finally. I can stay cool in style without looking like I am naked. Thank you for making this. I usually see men here wear little to nothing.

[@robertbiermann4666]

I hope you know that new quick dry breathable fabrics are available. Even for dress wear.

[@ungrateful-66]

Thanks, for reminder for me to add a few new casual outfits to my wardrobe for summer that are linen based. Unfortunately, there are really never any exciting patterns or other aesthetic designs to linen clothing except for solid plain boringness. I'm not sure about the "blending phenomenon," myself.

[@AdLusk1]

Bought my first pair of linen pants very recently. Love them.

[@laingyn]

thanks mate, appreciate all the information about linen, I've learn more about linen in this than others

[@J-Dawg_G4-7]

I bought a blue with white stripe linen shirt from uniqlo's premium line as a more affordable option and am going to buy a navy wide stripe linen spread collar shirt from Drake's on my next payday. Obviously they sound almost identical, but the Drake's shirt's spacing and sizing of the stripes are immaculately designed and placed. Don't think I've ever looked forward to buying a shirt before.

[@ryanwolfe8578]

I bought linen trousers last year. Originally I bought them to wear dress casual with a sport coat/searsucker. They weren't double walled and were too transparent. I wear them casually and are comfortable with a untucked collar shirt. MAKE SURE any linen you want to wear more dressed up is DOUBLE WALLED

[@Zloty_Nauczyciel]

Love your content Antonio. These vids are so informative and relaxing at the same time. Keep up the good work.

[@dannytetreault]

That John Henric site was awesome. Good prices too! Even at Canadian CAD dollars!

[@LamboWhale]

Are you wearing an undershirt with the white linen? Some shirts are a bit to see through in my experience.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

For linen suiting, make sure the lining fabric is a breathable one like cotton, lyocell or rayon/viscose. They cost a little more than polyester but are essential. There’s just no point in wearing linen if there’s a layer of plastic between it and the skin and body! It’s much harder to find breathable linings, but a few brands do have them, try the Premium High Street level rather than mass-market brands.

[@redol__]

Nice to see videos on such an unpopular topic

[@mikereese15]

Great info. I had a linen shirt and these tips would have helped me back then especially with the ironing and acceptable wrinkles.

[@RealMenRealStyle]

Maybe it's time to wear linen again!

[@lilcwa]

Well said, Antonio! A very solid video…

[@anydugen]

One challenge that I have living in a humid environment, is that the sweat is quickly absorbed my the linen and changes the color so much, that, from a long way away, all you can see are sweat stains. It takes forever for those stains to evaporate, and by then, I've got new ones. Any advice/suggestions? Obviously, white and other very light colors would be one answer.

[@zithnaja]

In Sweden there is a saying "När ull blir till mull, blir lin till gull", which roughly translates to "when wool gets old, linen turns to gold"

[@BrianRakowski-c7x]

I just ordered 2 linen shirts from John Henrich. Beige and Olive Green

[@Champagnelifeiam]

I toured Italy last year, it was experiencing a heatwave, the airline lost my luggage, so I had to buy clothing, I purchased a lot of linen clothes, and I must say, that's when I fell in love with linen. I was stylish, cool and dry, the other people that was on this tour was sweating and needed to change clothes often. Matter of fact, having my luggage lost worked out for the best, because I would have been in the same predicament as the other. They even acknowledged that I wasn't sweating and you could see the breeze flowing freely on my clothing. Linen is for heatwave climates. I'll be wearing them in Egypt 2025.

[@Heyhey2545]

More importantly. Linen is a healing fabric

[@007-bourne]

Please explain

[@marklane870]

Frequency is 5000, cotton 70, organic cotton 100,

[@stringlarson1247]

While I don't have to dress well much these days, my old linen stuff is great. That said, I have hemp and some bamboo clothing that are great for year-round use in the upper Midwest. Everything else is cotton and/or wool with some cashmere for winter. Just need to air-dry to keep shrinking to a minimum. I really hate synthetics.

[@KeithFeickert]

Flax production has been on the decline since WWII, I sincerely hope it's fiber production can be promoted because Linen is at risk of fading away. Thank you for making this video to raise awareness of at least the fiber!

[@yfelwulf]

Always informative I have a few Cotton Canvas shirts from over 10 years ago still in great condition and softening with age.

[@JongaLife]

John Henric is not that affordable, but love the style.

[@mariaborgvall7350]

I wish you had gone into the difference between flax linnen and remie linnen. Pros and cons of each, and how to tell them apart. I know some, but I feel there is much more for me to learn. And many consumers aren't even aware that more fibers than those of flax are sold under the umbrella term linnen.

[@thespacesbetweenstudio3346]

My linen shirts are slightly see through. Not sure if I should consider an undershirt sometimes but then it won't be as breathable

[@davidmendivil7432]

So we can wear linen, wool, cotton and silk all together with out cancelling out the 5000 frequency?

[@natachagrant8]

Thank you!❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@spade2you]

I like to "cheat" with wrinkle release spray before wearing. An 8th of the time compared to ironing. Completely unrelated: I just got a cashmere sweater. WOW.

[@LaitoChen]

The wolverine comic though!!!!!

[@msalazar413]

@2:50 that’s actually BLUE with WHITE STRIPES. Everyone can see that.

[@davedixon2167]

I love linen in the summertime - but I have a hard time finding pieces these days! I'm short and husky, so fit is difficult (I have to get most things altered) - and frankly, I got a little too paunchy for my last couple pairs of linen pants.

[@RtoipKa]

When its really hot I am sweating I linen and stains are appearing. So I wear t shirt underneath it. This is no longer breathing that good but at lest looks good 😂

[@iflyfa18s]

I love my linen shirts. I have white, light blue and light green.

[@Apopjak]

9:55 this is so funny :D :D great video btw!

[@jonatrhankarski2696]

Gonna design my own brand for both summer casual wear and for gym. I get it. Tons of people branding gym wear. Still going to do. Can never have too many options. However, im a fan of linen but makes me wonder why they dont have zippers on linen pants. They tend to be lose usually

[@bethmccall9254]

What about silk? (versus linen)

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Do iron your linen items well after washing, then forget about the creases while wearing it. They will not only look better, but feel much smoother and softer if ironed after washing.