What's the deal with the Baby Metroid?

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The Orpheon

The Orpheon

7 жыл бұрын

One of the most infamous moments from Metroid Other M has to be Samus's obsession with the Baby Metroid, but is there a bigger reason to this behavior we haven't noticed?
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@gmaster2647
@gmaster2647 6 жыл бұрын
Samus sees herself in the Metroid while she sees her as its Ridley...that's actually a nice bit of symbolism.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
And it makes me a sad, that if this was true in the story (the developers thought the same), it didn't get to fully be explored. I think would be a great twist/reflection on Samus's actions ?
@spark9189
@spark9189 5 жыл бұрын
But then she has ptsd from ridely
@skravats
@skravats 5 жыл бұрын
gmaster2647 yah it is
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 5 жыл бұрын
Deep
@anthonycrosby2887
@anthonycrosby2887 5 жыл бұрын
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@frescopino7866
@frescopino7866 6 жыл бұрын
"What? Projecting herself on the baby? That's just ridi-" *has flashbacks to the manga, realizes how Samus is the Ridley of the Metroids* "Holy Chozo Spirits you're right..."
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
glad to see someone had the same thought process I did haha
@zacharymabb4873
@zacharymabb4873 6 жыл бұрын
Yea im sittin here like "bullshi...HOLY FUCK...Hes right!"
@krsynx
@krsynx 6 жыл бұрын
Frescopino Oh no... Ohhh noooo.... *sobbing*
@SanvelloSerapiega
@SanvelloSerapiega 5 жыл бұрын
Still inconsistent with the original games that showed her maternal relationship was symbolic. Remember how she turned it in to be a lab rat as a mercy in the original story
@anonamusguy3404
@anonamusguy3404 5 жыл бұрын
Frescopino pop yeah...
@timhaldane7588
@timhaldane7588 7 жыл бұрын
I think they both recognized something similar in each other - they BOTH saw family. Samus may have seen her lost innocence and a chance to recapture hope in this new life, but I think Samus hesitated mostly because the baby regarded her as a mother figure rather than either prey or a predator. It didn't see her as food. It also wasn't frightened of her. It saw a kind of kinship. Why? I think this revealed to Samus a deep similarity between herself and Metroids. It's easy to think of Metroids as nothing but ravenous killing machines. But to the Metroids, Samus is the ruthless, heartless killer. This innocent creature didn't know this, though, and its actions suddenly put the Metroids' behavior in a very different light: they're not mindless killers, they're intelligent beings, defending themselves from an invader. By mistaking Samus for a Metroid, the baby's actions essentially pointed out that Samus had become just as cold and murderous as the Metroids - a quality the baby innocently thought of as being a capable defender and parent rather than a threat. Given her childhood, this is a revelation that would have struck home very hard. Her parents died defending her. Now she had a chance to be something her parents could never be for her. That's why this moment was so powerful for her.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, I hope you enjoyed the video
@shinysamurott613
@shinysamurott613 7 жыл бұрын
Timothy Haldane That gives a whole new meaning to Metroid Fusion where Samus's life is saved by the DNA of the infant Metroid and the SA-X is created She regards the SA-X as a mindless killing machine which it is but she is part metroid now It's like the SA-X to Samus is what she was to the metroids
@6powersofM
@6powersofM 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of dialoge in Fusion, and puts it into a new perspective. "The X hunger for form, knowledge, and power. They mimic these perfectly. But they cannot copy the soul. They're single-minded, instinctively seeking to increase in number. They're a plague, and the Federation underestimates their threat." This explains why Samus refused to kill off the metroids to extinction, but had no hesitation to do the same to the X. She had realised that metroids (if they are not telepathically controlled by Mother Brain) are capable of having feelings, but the X on the other hand are not.
@DawnOfLightX
@DawnOfLightX 6 жыл бұрын
Shiny Samurott that figuratavely (maybe literally...?) Means that even though the infant Metroid is dead, it's still with her and it's still protecting her. Just in the form of DNA...it sounds comforting putting it like that.
@LyfSukz
@LyfSukz 6 жыл бұрын
Why did it see a kinship? Maybe because the shape of Samus's helmet vaguely resembles the form of a Metroid. Closely enough for a newborn anyway.
@elliotlevy8610
@elliotlevy8610 7 жыл бұрын
Other M's biggest mistake story-wise was trying to do too much in one game. In attempting to explore BOTH her mourning of the Baby and her history with Adam, the result was the Metroid got too little attention for us to relate to Samus while her relationship with Adam felt too out of place with the rest of the story. The Metroid is the key to the entire character development of Samus. Without it the game falls short.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, I would have given the Baby a much bigger focus since its the key to Samus current mood and holds a overall big impact in the overall story of the games (can't have a Metroid game without Metroid?) The other thing that had a bit disappointed was that before the games release it was sold to us with showing Samus backstory, so its really a shame we didn't get any of that outside of Adam (growing up with the Chozo, relations to Mother Brain or Ridley, etc)
@TallFry2
@TallFry2 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can see your point pretty well. I think she had a serious crisis of confidence, and that was something Adam caught onto, hence stupid choices. But yeah, I agree that if they had kept it simpler, it would have gone over a lot better.
@SandWhich24
@SandWhich24 6 жыл бұрын
Elliot Levy not only that but they didn't develope on Samus's and Adam's relationship. like yeah we know he's her commanding officer but that's it? we never actually get cutscenes where they were actually bonding or talking about something they both remember. like they pretty much had a communication device to talk with one another and that completely went down to drain to Adam mostly just barking orders and nothing else. The fact that they didn't do something like "oh hey Adam how's everything been since I last saw you" type conversation really made their relationship seem stale. and of course Samus just looking like a complete fool projecting her feelings on to him. The Baby really should have been the primary focus.
@Erika-gn1tv
@Erika-gn1tv 5 жыл бұрын
They could have linked the themes together by making Adam be mad at Samus for not killing the Metroid Infant. It fits with a lot of the other stuff like Adam not trusting Samus with her gear and the stuff with his little brother. He doesn't trust Samus to do the right thing and she has to explain her actions a little more to gain his trust again. He should also talk things out with her and _not shoot her in the back_ as he did. And in the end he trust her to finish things after he dies, Samus accepts his sacrifice and everybody has some character development in the end. Huzzah.
@generaljimmies3429
@generaljimmies3429 5 жыл бұрын
One of the things the devs could have done to flesh out her history with Adam and the Federation would be this: Have you noticed as you travel through all those hallways and corridors it's always...quiet. Why not have some radio chatter between Samus and her squad mates as she's traveling from place to place, reminiscing about the "good ol' days".
@IRNStudios
@IRNStudios 7 жыл бұрын
If only Other M's story was that good
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will learn from the mistakes from Other M's story for the next game
@nahor88
@nahor88 6 жыл бұрын
But... we're getting a Metroid Prime 4... does that mean that game is already non-canon???
@mematic9058
@mematic9058 5 жыл бұрын
Metroid other m was good
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer to say, it wasn't so bad. :)
@matt4193
@matt4193 5 жыл бұрын
*"METROID: OTHER PRIME"* CONFIRMED
@black97_0
@black97_0 6 жыл бұрын
You know, why don't they just make a game based on the manga? Chapter 1 of manga (Samus as kid) can be an intro cutscene, her training as teen could be training in game with basic ability And second part (volume 2) could be the actual game For pit sake Nintendo
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 жыл бұрын
Nintendo: Whaaaat? and make a GOOD metroid game? nah
@shubhdashukla7692
@shubhdashukla7692 4 жыл бұрын
Volume 2 ends with the battle against Mother Brain in the first game, so an extended version of Zero Mission?
@dusty0896
@dusty0896 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghoulbuster1 I'm Pretty Sure All The Mainline Metroid Games And The Metroid Prime Games Are Good.
@pawpenggaga
@pawpenggaga 2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't work
@black97_0
@black97_0 2 жыл бұрын
@@pawpenggaga okay, but why do? They tried story based game, but it failed because the story was shit Metroid manga has a good story
@TheBestWanderbug
@TheBestWanderbug 5 жыл бұрын
Sr-338 Sreeb Let’s call it. Sreeb. Also: “their extinction was a wise choice” *metroid fusion* Nearly killed samus, had an entire ship infected, had her own suit infected. *’wise choice’*
@thebiolibrary5572
@thebiolibrary5572 5 жыл бұрын
Ramen Boodles W. X. I. X parasites. S. Murderous blobs of possesive death E.
@DeadSpaceWing
@DeadSpaceWing 4 жыл бұрын
"Prepare for Unforseen Consequences."
@joeygamer5387
@joeygamer5387 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Metroid: SREEEEEEBBB!!
@goryn9660
@goryn9660 4 жыл бұрын
Well *Xcuse* me Saamusssss
@syweb2
@syweb2 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhat wise, given their limited knowledge. Not necessarily as wise as blockading the planet or otherwise restricting access without destroying them, given that they might be useful later, but it still made it much more difficult for the Pirates to obtain Metroids than before.
@riolukid1080
@riolukid1080 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely, when I first playthrough Other M I've realize that Samus is acting like any mother who has just witness their child get kill. In a way she has relate so much to the baby since if the baby was born a couple of moments before Samus destroy the queen, it would've witness the same sight of it mother being taken away from her and when it sacrifice itself to save samus for the mother brain fight she questions what if I did that to save my parents. The baby I think is the greatest character in the Metroid series right alongside Samus.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Its definitely one of the greatest because it changes our perspective on the species as a hole. All of a sudden (and perhaps to late for that matter) we realized that Metroids aren't just predators/mindless creatures
@Hyper_Drud
@Hyper_Drud 6 жыл бұрын
I believe the Baby Metroid being one of the greatest characters. In Metroid Fusion, its DNA was used to create a vaccine to the X inside Samus’s body. Even in death it’s still able to help Samus.
@DRUMCANJONES22
@DRUMCANJONES22 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hyper_Drud yep
@ecleckner72
@ecleckner72 6 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you for being one of the first metroid youtubers I've watched that doesn't blindly criticize Other M, and actually examines Samus' character arc up to that point to understand her actions in that story. You're doing the fanbase a solid
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Since there were already plenty of people doing videos on the subject I did not want to just jump into the fire myself, and maybe focus on something else regarding the story and such (I for one enjoyed Other M)
@ecleckner72
@ecleckner72 6 жыл бұрын
The Orpheon yeah I gotcha. I don't think Other M is an awful game either, it accomplished what it set out to do pretty well, but it had more potential. I've still completed it 100% twice so that's also saying something. But seriously though you've got good content, keep doing what you're doing, I subscribed just yesterday after watching your timeline vid simply because you didn't omit Other M lmao
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, I also didn't omit Federation Force, since they are both Metroid games, regardless of what other people might think. Hope you enjoy my future content
@mikealquezada8586
@mikealquezada8586 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheOrpheon oh yes I enjoyed it to
@user-gm9wl1xw1u
@user-gm9wl1xw1u 7 ай бұрын
I don’t get why people flat-out hate Other M. LIKE WHY DO PEOPLE HATE IT IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME!
@yorbasfett
@yorbasfett 7 жыл бұрын
T H E B A B Y
@will_of_europa
@will_of_europa 6 жыл бұрын
OtterCorp DEH BEHEBEH
@zacharymabb4873
@zacharymabb4873 6 жыл бұрын
THHHEEEEEEEEEE BAAAAAAAABYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!
@marc6109
@marc6109 6 жыл бұрын
The baby C R Y I N G
@zacharymabb4873
@zacharymabb4873 6 жыл бұрын
Oh hi There THEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABY!!!!
@shimigen5994
@shimigen5994 5 жыл бұрын
*a b a b y ' s c r y*
@jetstreamwinds6072
@jetstreamwinds6072 7 жыл бұрын
this really got my attention and is a VERY good explanation of other m with the baby mourning samus
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Its been a theory I have had in my mind since I first played the game. It felt as if the developers wanted to convey a connection between Samus and The Baby, but never got around to do it
@demi-fiendoftime3825
@demi-fiendoftime3825 6 жыл бұрын
If you recently played Samus returns you might be a bit more attached to squishy now too
@DawnOfLightX
@DawnOfLightX 6 жыл бұрын
Demi-Fiend of Time "I shall call him Squishy! :D"
@imanoahhunter3530
@imanoahhunter3530 5 жыл бұрын
@@DawnOfLightX how do you know its a he?
@joychapman9228
@joychapman9228 4 жыл бұрын
squishy boi
@Yokokazuo
@Yokokazuo 7 жыл бұрын
I've recently been in a Metroid mood lately so I was looking for a timeline video that included Federation Force and found yours. I enjoyed it and ended up watching several of your videos. Your content is really great and I think you deserve more subscribers and viewers!
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Im really happy to hear you have enjoyed my content. More videos are in production at the moment and I hope they keep you entertained! Sharing the videos is also greatly appreciated. Thank you
@MrQueen8488
@MrQueen8488 7 жыл бұрын
横山和夫 same with me ive been binging the games for a while and even read the manga which by the way, gives samus way more character and development than you would think
@notoknotok
@notoknotok 6 жыл бұрын
I've been in a Metroid mood since last weekend when I bought Super Metroid on Virtual Console on the 3DS.
@d00g07
@d00g07 6 жыл бұрын
There is like water coming out of my eyes right now. What is happening to me?
@isaacdenley1922
@isaacdenley1922 5 жыл бұрын
MARCELO761 I Play Everything dude You rubbed your eyes to much and now there leaking
@AnjnShan
@AnjnShan 7 жыл бұрын
This theory is actually in some way, remotely accurate, not directly or officially said to be canon, but it might explain a plot point that's overlooked, or expected to be understood immediately in the games. ... also it could justify the 'Baby Metroid' crap in other M(just not all of it.)
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
I feel that this (and many other of) Other M's plot lines where severely overlooked because of them trying to focus on one topic to many (The baby/Adam/Samus Past/Ridley/Madeline and Melissa/etc) If the game had one or two things to focus it could have been a different outcome. And with this video, I wanted to propose what could have been the initial mentality behind the writing of the game... that we never got to see
@AnjnShan
@AnjnShan 7 жыл бұрын
I can see that fairly well, your theory makes sense. They could've also brought the Chozo, and important details.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Orpheon, are you happy with how Samus Returns portrayed Samus relationship with the baby Metroid? Personally, I loved everything about it. How Samus charged her ice beam immediately to shoot, only to hesitate when she realized that the baby was harmless. How the baby floats happily around her. How you need the baby to collect some items, which is a great way to bond with your new Metroid. And finally, that last boss battle! Were you satisfied to see this development between Samus and the baby Metroid? I think that it spoke great volumes into Samus and her mind set towards the baby, a great characterization told through cutscenes and game play without words. I loved it! :D And to be fair, the baby Metroid was insanely cute!
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I am pretty happy how Samus Returns handled the way Samus reacts to the baby metroid, especially without requiring any dialogue or exposition. I thought that the way the baby was implemented as a power up of sorts makes a great bond between the baby and the player which makes its sacrifice in Super Metroid all the more heartbreaking. Hats off to Mercury Steam
@johnleonard9102
@johnleonard9102 2 жыл бұрын
Samus went full mama-bear mode when Ridley showed up and tried to take the baby.
@KillerSmile559
@KillerSmile559 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you make Ghor saying "Just in time." a meme. So good.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 5 жыл бұрын
Its all about timing in the edit... if you may
@laurierhebert-jodoin5716
@laurierhebert-jodoin5716 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought Motherly instinct was also part of what explained this, but yeah the fact she was basically Ridley to this Metroid also always explained why she adopted the baby to me. I guess remorse at commiting near-genocide and the desire to avoid turning the baby into a killing machine like the Chozo had done to her might be part of why she chose to give the baby....that or maybe galactic law lol. Also I just discovered your channel and I love it, which is why I'm commenting on a year old video lol.
@SaphireSystrine
@SaphireSystrine 6 жыл бұрын
THAT is why I like Other M, because it is accurate to how she would feel. To be honest, I understood all of this from the get-go. Being one to suffer trauma like that, I understand how Samus would feel, and I imagine its hard for others who have not felt this to understand.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
It was a nice way to give her a more human side, makes her look all the stronger when you realize she is a regular person in a power armor (with some Chozo DNA) I hope if there is sequel take to this character exploration, that it takes place outside of the main series to allow the character to grow outside the established storyline
@themastuhkbm
@themastuhkbm 7 жыл бұрын
Legit, you seriously deserve more views and subs. I subbed to you. Hope to see more quality posts like this.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support, really means a lot. Rest assured I will always try my best to give you the best viewing experience in future videos, hope you look forward to them
@therubbermeep7456
@therubbermeep7456 7 жыл бұрын
seriously this sounds way better than other ms reasoning
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if Other M's story was a bit more focused on one point, be it Adam/Baby Metroid/Ridley/Mother Brains/etc the developers would have been able to tell a better story
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
I'm also happy to hear I was able to get my thoughts across
@GayLPer
@GayLPer 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, you said it sounded ridiculous a lot throughout the video, but it made perfect sense. Actually, I thought Samus had an emotional attachment to the hatchling long before Other M took it and beat us to death with it. Other M had so much potential, so much it could've done right. But even the *US commercial* for it does a better job of telling a story than the game itself does.
@calebhessing7593
@calebhessing7593 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks the scientist shaking Samus’ hand in the beginning of Super Metroid looks like some weird, undead monster skeleton dude?
@44bigfreeze
@44bigfreeze 6 жыл бұрын
I can't unsee that now
@jorgeantoniodiazmartinez1890
@jorgeantoniodiazmartinez1890 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, it makes complete sense that Samus saw herself projected in the baby metroid, cool and subtle story arc.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I always had a small thought lingering in my mind of why the dev team would go to such lengths to introduce the Baby as a mayor focus for the story this time around, and this were my thoughts on the matter
@BrandDude24
@BrandDude24 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! This explains perfectly why she's always mentioning the baby in Other M. My favorite out of your vids so far. Amazing explanation!
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment, I'm very happy to hear you throughly enjoyed it. This has been an idea that has been sitting in the back of my mind ever since I played Other M, hopefully Samus Returns might expand a little on her connection with the Baby
@jimbolic0809
@jimbolic0809 6 жыл бұрын
This was a beautifully written video. Thank you for humanizing Samus so well here.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video
@iipoctoi_mexahik9872
@iipoctoi_mexahik9872 4 жыл бұрын
“And like I stated the Wiimote REALLY limited a lot a game could offer” Prime Trilogy on Wii: *laughs in nunchak*
@SchAlternate
@SchAlternate 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe Other M's plot wouldn't be so hated if it at least *showed* us her traumatic childhood, or at least explained what happened then, instead of giving us a PTSD scene with no context whatsoever and the only way to understand it is to "read the manga lol". Like seriously, what are you doing basing some of the more important plot elements on a Japanese only manga that came out 6 years before the game??
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, the lack of focus held it back from developing anything properly, and it alienated lot of its audience by not showing the basis of some of its plot points
@silv2309
@silv2309 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me being a writer in my free time, I often come up with things and forget to explain them because I forget that ppl don’t have every piece of info that I do lol
@baez1301
@baez1301 6 жыл бұрын
Me at the end of the video: I am not crying... I am not crying... FUCK!
@paragonplays6919
@paragonplays6919 4 жыл бұрын
Well put. I've been playing the games since forever and I always picked up on this (even without reading the manga) so the whole thing with Other M never confused me. I remember being.. ten or eleven years old and beating Super for the first time and just -sobbing- over it. So thanks for this. It kinda means a lot to me.
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 5 жыл бұрын
1:40 Absolutely. When I finally found him at the end of Samus Returns I was all "I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine! >w
@virtualpellot933
@virtualpellot933 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you used a few musical themes from one of my favorate Bomberman games on this video!
@stanstanstan2597
@stanstanstan2597 2 жыл бұрын
I think it might also be some sort of a motherly love kind of thing. The Baby Metroid imprinted upon her as its mother. She watched it affectionately float around her, as it helped her explore and escape the planet. She is definitely a very stoic woman, but she is still a woman. Maybe in some small way, she imprinted on the Metroid too, possibly having been lonely after never really having been part of normal human society since the age of three. Yes, she lived with the Chozo, and yes, she had a brief stint in the Federation, but i'm sure it was difficult or impossible for her to reintegrate perfectly with the rest of them. I dunno. Of course, this can definitely be taken too far as well, as seen in Other M, but female characters actually maving feminine or motherly traits would be nice to see, especially in the era of woke corporations and Mary Sues overruning media. Nintendo never bowed to them as of yet, but I think if they explored this side of Samus' personality more, it might be a nice, albeit relatively small, counter-depiction of women in games.
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 Жыл бұрын
Dude I was thinking about this today, it really makes sense. Great video man
@jonasnelson3051
@jonasnelson3051 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I just noticed this video was uploaded on my b-day! That’s funny, this my favorite video on this channel, I guess it was like a birthday gift, anyways you did very well explaining this. I wanted to know why she didn’t kill it besides it being just plain adorable, and I always put this as my personal canon for the story.
@shadow_man_exe4727
@shadow_man_exe4727 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, for just the trigger, it could be just because she witnessed the hatching of one. Shes in the presence of a baby, that's now orphaned, that she saw hatch with her own eyes, that she created being an orphan. If you have a good heart and If you killed a mama duck for food, survival, or as an accident, and saw it had an egg that just happen to hatch, there's a chance sympathy will kick in and you might wanna protect it, guilt and grief plus protecting innocence and seeing potential are great potential motivators. Ultimately, I don't think its anything more that that, she just sympathized.
@murasakibebeby3127
@murasakibebeby3127 6 жыл бұрын
Im glad there are in fact others who have realized this as well.
@TCT2023
@TCT2023 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap... that song at the end. I remember when I first %100-ed Other M and heard that song on the title screen, I nearly cried.
@Lanz_1986
@Lanz_1986 6 жыл бұрын
You could call SR388 “Metroidia”. It’s the metroid home planet, soooo... makes sense?
@JOEDIES-ng1kd
@JOEDIES-ng1kd 6 жыл бұрын
I would call it Arzenbulud
@darkdogzstudioz
@darkdogzstudioz 6 жыл бұрын
Id call it bob.
@StilvurBee
@StilvurBee 6 жыл бұрын
yeah it should be called bob
@thebiolibrary5572
@thebiolibrary5572 5 жыл бұрын
Steakee Bob is the name of a totally sexy rag man. (He’s actually a hobo, Bob was pointing a gun to my head.)
@Regunes
@Regunes 5 жыл бұрын
or Planet X?
@ashlewis9567
@ashlewis9567 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Super thoughtful connection!
@bigboibreadstick
@bigboibreadstick 6 жыл бұрын
I pretty much just found this channel today, and i'm already loving it, one reason being with all of the Metroid-related content Anyway, the video DOES explain quite a bit about Samus's whole deal with the baby and all Now that I've said all that, I'd like to go ahead and say you deserve a LOT more subs than what you have right now
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, if you enjoy my content, could I please ask your o consider sharing my video/channel with others? the extra exposure would be of great help.
@definitelynotpaul9209
@definitelynotpaul9209 6 жыл бұрын
Any chance we could get a full sized version of Samus hugging the Metroid on the thumbnail? It's gotta be one of the cutest things I've seen on the internet.
@940351579
@940351579 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to your channel and have seen around 10 of your videos, and I gotta tell you - I don't know why "Just in time" is as funny as it is, but goddamn if it doesn't get me every time.
@EphemeralMemory
@EphemeralMemory 6 жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful video. Thank you for the analysis. Liked and (very) tempted to subscribe.
@baronessax2114
@baronessax2114 6 жыл бұрын
I played Metroid fusion and zero mission as a kid (around 14 years old) and am currently playing Metroid on 3DS (Metroid, Samus returns). I really love these games, the storyline and gameplay is amazing...but being at the end of the game of Samus Returns, I wanted some clarification on things (hey, I am trying my best not to spoil it). Thanks so much for the video! I really love how you highlighted my favourite games and the dash of humour made it very entertaining! :)
@gamerofgamers1417
@gamerofgamers1417 2 жыл бұрын
This makes the baby's death during the final battle against Mother Brain even more emotional.
@BootlegBird
@BootlegBird 6 жыл бұрын
This makes a surprising amount of sense!
@pubcle
@pubcle 2 жыл бұрын
I am still, to this day, upset we never got Metroid - Samus buddy-cop adventures at the end of Super Metroid.
@harryguidotti3815
@harryguidotti3815 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who actually enjoyed Other M, I thank you for not going off saying that it was terrible, and acknowledging that it had some positive points.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
I also enjoyed Other M, and while it might have not been perfect (and I can't defend some of its writing) I think it did a lot of things right that I can appreciate. Was happy to see the developers still experimenting with the formula and trying new things
@paragonplays6919
@paragonplays6919 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@toaarania2392
@toaarania2392 6 жыл бұрын
The scene with the baby at the end of Samus Returns really helps this theory
@pengie-gw2lu
@pengie-gw2lu 5 жыл бұрын
I love how Samus Returns adds a certain event right before the end of the game that emphasizes the forming of the relationship between Samus and the baby metroid
@josean6287
@josean6287 2 жыл бұрын
Dude... thanks for the video! I always thought it was quite obvious her trauma and the way she saw it different was due to him being the first she ever saw hatch and you can see the innocence and joy he had after watching her thinking it was his mother... so many things could come through her mind at that moment *including guilt* that the least she could do was let him stay alive for research but even that was a mistake because it leads to him dying sacrificing for her later on... how can that not be traumatic after everything she went through... the only thing that purely cared for her gone like that.
@wanderingcalamity360
@wanderingcalamity360 2 жыл бұрын
You know, post-Dread, this all makes a lot of sense.
@mikeyy2s
@mikeyy2s 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the bomberman music in the back
@nilotech3
@nilotech3 7 жыл бұрын
Impressive! Makes a lot of sense! Perhaps this may be explored a bit in Metroid: Samus Returns... Keep up the great videos.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
I do hope so! Nakamoto said he wanted to explore more in the story from Metroid 2 (or at least tell us more about it) Don't worry more videos will be on the way
@nilotech3
@nilotech3 7 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks!
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
I should thank you for taking of your time to watch my videos and commenting, really makes all the difference.
@LL-cuh
@LL-cuh 2 жыл бұрын
as a kid, I payed more attention to detail about that particular metroid and the way it was around Samus. I am glad I was not the only one who thought the same thing between the both of them.
@goldengamemaster6133
@goldengamemaster6133 3 жыл бұрын
I think that a BIG reason that Samus froze was that Ridley wasn't just screeching at her. He was TALKING to her. My best guess is that he was saying stuff along the lines of, "Did you REALLY think I was gone for good?", "YOU helped me make my return possible! ", "All these years you've tried to be the hero, and yet the sad truth is, YOU'RE JUST LIKE ME!"
@louisbraille2796
@louisbraille2796 6 жыл бұрын
so so happy y realize the baby was samus in herself
@hyper5157
@hyper5157 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Metroid: *exists Samus: *DONT TOUCH DA CHILD*
@jamieg8627
@jamieg8627 6 жыл бұрын
Good to know I wasn't the only one who noticed that detail in other m.
@grantimations7577
@grantimations7577 5 жыл бұрын
It makes perfect sense Samus had never witnessed metroid emotion and when she did she couldn't kill it because she releized this was wrong and saw herself in the metroids place
@wenzler3052
@wenzler3052 5 жыл бұрын
By the laws of bird magic this actually makes a lot of sense. Also, the music at the end made me sad. Samus, I'm sorry for your loss. REST IN PEACE SQUISHY!!! END OF LINE_
@JasonBoyce
@JasonBoyce 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Sakomoto really listened to the backlash and finally understood what it was about her character that the fans loved
@GamingWithCalvin1
@GamingWithCalvin1 4 жыл бұрын
RIP BABY WE NEED IT TO COME BACK
@stupidbaby217
@stupidbaby217 7 жыл бұрын
This one got deep. P.S. I've recently become a fan of the Metroid Series and your content is amazing!
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, happy to hear you enjoy my content and I hope you look forward to more videos in the future.
@thetoondevil
@thetoondevil 5 жыл бұрын
These thumbnails are just the cutest :3
@vergames4139
@vergames4139 6 жыл бұрын
Wow j-just wow... Kudos really you created a great theory on why Samus had a strong connection to the baby Metroid this is going into my head canon great job The Orpheon
@DTSephiroth
@DTSephiroth 6 жыл бұрын
1:42 Love the Samus graphic on the "It's adorable!" scene. So Chibi.
@thegoon3840
@thegoon3840 5 жыл бұрын
R.I.P baby Metroid aka: Squishy
@hscar-no8oz
@hscar-no8oz 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo! You got me with her, seeing herself as Ridley. I wasn't expecting that. I did know of the ties with the chozo. You're my favorite Metroid KZbinr, bro.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
It only felt logical to me she would make the parallel as Ridley after what she did/went through, I always thought there had to be a deeper reason to the connection than just filling pity/empathy over the last Metroid. Also I feel honored you would consider me your favorite Metroid KZbinr.
@VictoryReviews
@VictoryReviews 3 жыл бұрын
If other M just allowed for a nunchuck it'd feel so much better to play
@jswizzle6536
@jswizzle6536 2 жыл бұрын
I love how other M says PLEASE press 2, like it’s begging you to give it even half a chance
@enderborn6860
@enderborn6860 5 жыл бұрын
samus see her kid self in the metroid and her current self as ridley honestly as i read the title before clicking i kinda figured that but its good hearing some on put it into more understandable words
@MARSHTMP
@MARSHTMP 4 жыл бұрын
6:07 the manga. I know enough about Metroid to know that samus sees herself as Ridley and the Metroid as herself. I haven’t watched past that point yet.
@grannest5050
@grannest5050 3 жыл бұрын
8:05 After all, the mission reminded on the game over screen is "find the Metroid Larva" so ...
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the thumbnail is so adorable and wholesome
@TornadoADV
@TornadoADV 5 жыл бұрын
This is explored a lot more in the remake of the second title for the 3DS.
@raymondrufa971
@raymondrufa971 3 жыл бұрын
I was aware Nintendo Power's comic dug into Samus's past but some of the details here I never knew. Thank you! :)
@WandererEris
@WandererEris 6 жыл бұрын
I really like Other M. It's a fun game with a meh story. Honestly, all the backlash is kind've a shame because it means we won't see another game in the same engine, most likely. I'd have loved another game with the same gameplay mechanics.
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, so much so that I made a video in the past on how the mechanic could be enhance (its titled: "Metroid on Switch" if you are curious, its obviously made months before Prime 4's reveal) My issue with the story was that it tried focusing on one theme to many (baby/adam/ridley/MB/Deleter/etc) that nothing got the chance to fully flesh out
@nikorasupo3
@nikorasupo3 6 жыл бұрын
That couldn't have been said better! Of course, for a bit, I didn't quite know where you were headed with the whole explanation, but then it clicked with me before you even said it! What helps support this "theory" (I actually think it is the real reason, and should be the canon explanation) is the fact that at the end of the metroid 2 remake, the baby metroid and samus work together to fight ridley. It actually makes it all the sadder now when the baby metroid dies in Super Metroid...
@daviddavila8816
@daviddavila8816 5 жыл бұрын
I cried when i played the game. That dying baby metroid broke my heart
@northwardchaser2823
@northwardchaser2823 6 жыл бұрын
Samus Returns does also expand a bit on Samus' history with the baby metroid a bit too. I still think they may have focused on it a bit much in the story for what little explanation they gave. But I'd be happy to even have had it rationalized like this. I had always figured that maybe she saw the baby metroid as a lone shred of hope in a galaxy filled with space pirates, sentient planets, space dragons, organic supercomputers that destroyed her home planet.
@firebrand723
@firebrand723 2 жыл бұрын
Other m is just a hallucination that samus had on the way back from a crazy space bender
@sfj1pilotchannel490
@sfj1pilotchannel490 2 жыл бұрын
Technically Metroid other m isn't Canon now?
@maaoruzketo
@maaoruzketo 2 жыл бұрын
That wonderful Star Force music
@TJthercGuy
@TJthercGuy 4 жыл бұрын
The Metroid imprinted on Samus when it hatched in Metroid 2 Samus returns! Samus is a lone bounty Hunter and the Metroid was the last 1 at that point. When it hatched and didn't attack. She seen the Metroids are not evil. She also kept the baby to research! She even tried to save it in super Metroid. The baby when grown up even says want sounds like momma after attacking and almost killing her! After all that I can see why she would have had feelings for the Metroid much like any people there pet! 😄
@louisbraille2796
@louisbraille2796 6 жыл бұрын
thank y for destroying my soul! because now I appreciate samus more until I die
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
I have a lot more theories/details like this if you want more
@louisbraille2796
@louisbraille2796 6 жыл бұрын
OK it doesn't matter because baby is gone
@Strikerenno
@Strikerenno 6 жыл бұрын
Right in the feels
@artifexvigen551
@artifexvigen551 3 жыл бұрын
my question is why in the pre-rendered cutscenes at the beginning and end of the game show samus with a small mole below her lip on the left side of her face, her in-game cutscene model and her gameplay model, as well as merchandise, her smash bros model, and her depiction as her YOUNGER SELF in the model used in pre-rendered cutscenes and her design in the manga dont have it??? where did this mole come from and where did it disappear to??? where did you come from??? where did you go??? where did you come from pre-rendered mole???
@Keara113
@Keara113 5 жыл бұрын
Not just a family member but maybe also . . . a child.
@generalstory9938
@generalstory9938 2 жыл бұрын
For what little I know about Metroid, It seems to be forwards the beginning where whoever it was giving orders too her....sounded familiar to Order 66 in a way and DEFINITELY sounded something like Chiefs retrieval of HALO 5 With Fireteam Oris And when you first said that Samus saw herself in Baby Metroid the first time...... again not knowing anything really about Metroid, That made a whole lot of sense too me.... mainly because I've seen that situation countless times .... But here, I want to know what she saw, and why
@_autumnshot_
@_autumnshot_ 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry her family is still in her heart and soul. Probably literally.
@KBXband
@KBXband 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... that is pretty frickin rad. I hadn't made that connection.
@xavierbean5218
@xavierbean5218 5 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace, my sadness
@rudolphdouglas6765
@rudolphdouglas6765 2 күн бұрын
Bring back the Baby! Metroid Aran!
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 Жыл бұрын
Side note, I had no idea they had already come up with the X Parasite so far back as these original manga! Cool stuff
@miniaturejayhawk8702
@miniaturejayhawk8702 11 ай бұрын
Dababy helped samus turn into a convertible
@sf9310
@sf9310 6 жыл бұрын
why do i laugh every time he plays the just in time clip
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Its contagious?
@creaturefeet3036
@creaturefeet3036 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen such an adorable version of Samas!
@ChizuMcCheems
@ChizuMcCheems 6 жыл бұрын
subbed! I love your vids!
@TheOrpheon
@TheOrpheon 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, the extra support means so much to me. I hope you look forward to my future content
@drrockstar4040
@drrockstar4040 3 жыл бұрын
Her connection was basically she didnt want to kill something that wouldnt kill her back
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