What’s the Difference Between Sloth and Rest?

Ask Pastor John
Episode: 1672
Transcript: www.desiringgod.org/interview...

[@anthonyjamesu.esteban8346]

"It is the grace of God that takes away the effects of the fall, pushing back anxiety and makes labor meaningful and sweet and gives true restfulness." - Ptr. John Piper

[@t.scottmajor1316]

"So there remains a Shabbat rest for the people of God. For the one who has entered God’s rest has also ceased from his own work, just as God did from His. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one may fall through the same pattern of disobedience." - Hebrews 4:9-11

[@chadcampbell7576]

So we are suppose to obey the Sabbath day? It almost sounds like that is what this verse is saying:)

[@t.scottmajor1316]

@@chadcampbell7576 I never really saw this verse before in that light, but I now read it to mean that yes we should guard the Sabbath day and keep it holy (set apart) as God did in creation.

[@chadcampbell7576]

@@t.scottmajor1316 Awesome! A brother in arms. I guard the commandments as well. Keep the faith.

[@t.scottmajor1316]

@@chadcampbell7576 Shalom to you too. May we all uphold the Torah of YHVH. For our good and His glory!

[@noc9472]

God bless you brothers. I have a different interpretation, doesn't hebrews 4:3 say that we are already resting because we believe in Christ?, (I also believe that the 4th commandment should not be ignored)

[@HearGodsWord]

Thank you for the helpful answer Pastor John. Rest is right, sothfulness is wrong so you have helped to discern between the two.

[@itspikachutime5624]

glad i listened to this tonight.

[@elisabethtrotter4564]

Jesus Christ went to the cross and now lives to set sinful you free from death and hell. Repent and turn your heart to Him before it’s too late. Say yes!

[@jenniferdean8916]

Motivating! Praise Jesus

[@atypicalmom]

As the mother of 4 boys I would love a little bit of rest....

[@Womenswell022]

Please get some rest...

[@jessicamilson9392]

I know how you feel! 😅 two under four and 31 weeks pregnant with my third!

[@atypicalmom]

@@jessicamilson9392 , I've been there!!! God bless 🥰

[@christophersedlak1147]

thanks

[@mikhailkraev5644]

Thank you

[@Flooofster]

Wow thanks!!

[@jordanpryor4771]

It’s hard for me to be active for the Lord when I have lost my job. I just lay around all day. What else am I supposed to do? I literally have nothing going for me at this point. I don’t know if I’m being a sloth, or if I am resting.

[@arev2485]

Same here with me. I have been applying for jobs ever since i have been laid off. Im a music teacher and many schools arent accepting currently.

[@jordanpryor4771]

@@arev2485 I’m sorry about that! I try to volunteer, but that’s about all I can do to stay sane.

[@Wishwater2]

I was in the same boat and not sure how to work for Gods Kingdom in lockdown, I started a small garden that is slowly expanding and flourishing with Gods Grace. I am using my time and ability to grow food and donate to food shelters and kitchens. May GOD bless and guide you towards His plan for your life.

[@MetanoiaOfferMastery]

Volunteer at your church.

[@jordanpryor4771]

@@MetanoiaOfferMastery I don’t have a church home at this point.

[@stephenmichaels6682]

Under our apostle paul’s ministry,today we are only saved by BELIEVING The Gospel of Jesus Christ,1st Corinthians Chapter 15 verse 1-4.Jesus Christ died on the cross,was buried,and rose again on the third day.Jesus Christ Shed Blood is what saves you when you believe this plan of salvation with your heart.

[@abeezydestroyer9476]

Amen

[@elkyelkyelky]

Finished

[@Tre492]

So what about people with health problems, fatigue, tiredness, etc.

[@Womenswell022]

These are exceptions...

[@MetanoiaOfferMastery]

Rest and eat well. Volunteer at your church. Consider doing keto.

[@cmullenmusic]

Amen 💜✞🕊

[@ledahoffman4036]

I hadn't realized I was listening to pastor Piper, just pastor John, wondering who pastor John is. I did get a good message here but I am still having trouble hearing what you have to say about sin when I remember you putting abortion as a secondary consideration in the last election, especially now when we see what this new presidency has done, is doing opposing life. I always wonder if pastors ever see their wrong choices and repent of them. Thats not my business but you may consider how that choice is received on judgment day especially considering your position and how that must have influenced others. Regardless of the personality and immaturity of that new Christian in the White House he stood against the taking of the unborn. So my question. How do you feel about your stance now?

[@rainephachoumphone9175]

Whats the difference between liars and people who speak?

[@deandre7905]

Is it a sin to kill bugs Cuz what I learned is no Cuz bugs can kill us becuz of poison or other things like sickness it's just have respect after killing the bug... (So should I kill bugs or not?)

[@KingCalb]

You should bestow grace and mercy on bugs as your father does for you. You have power and dominion over them. So you shouldn't kill them every time. There is a time for peace and a time for war.

[@deandre7905]

@@KingCalb i only kill bugs if they bother me or just need to be get rid of but ok I won't kill bugs on purpose

[@KingCalb]

@@deandre7905 If they are in your home or space. 🕷🔨 If it's a unique outside bug known to be outdoors try to release it back outdoors.

[@deandre7905]

@@KingCalb Oh ok thanks

[@bossmonl.a2035]

🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

Wait until you discover that Hebrew Cosmology is true.

[@HearGodsWord]

How does that help with the question?

[@t.scottmajor1316]

"Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as YHVH your God has commanded you. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to YHVH your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns, so that your male and female servants may rest, as you do." - Deuteronomy 5:12-14

[@Desman228]

I pray that none of your family members get sick or need any major surgery on that day because... And I also pray you don't work 24 hours of the day 6 days of the week I hope you REST in between. Amen 🙏

[@t.scottmajor1316]

@@Desman228 Are you speaking to God or me? He wrote that, I didn't.

[@Desman228]

@@t.scottmajor1316 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[@t.scottmajor1316]

@@Desman228 What does that verse mean to you?

[@Pslamist]

690k subscribers? Nice.

[@KingCalb]

I will be the first to admit that since 2019 and the plandemic I've have become more sluggish. This wicked system based off vanity is not appeasing to me in the slightest. I haven't given up on my relationship with Christ. But physically working for paper money have become so grievous and vanity. I would rather till the land than stand at another assembly line

[@CalderaFinance]

Amos 8:4-6

[@KingCalb]

@@CalderaFinance that's exactly what they do to us.

[@richbandicoot]

*plandemic. lmaooo don’t bring that type of stuff in videos related to christ. keep your nonsense to yourself

[@KingCalb]

@@richbandicoot Pray to the Lord to give you discerment. Pray to the Lord that you might see who and what runs the world. Pray to the Lord that you have eyes to see and ears to hear. Without it you will stay in your state of folly, ignorance and arrogance.

[@ricklamb772]

Rest is recuperating, sloth,is laziness.with rest ,once it is completed,you become active again to become constructive again ,to become useful again,sloth is finding any excuse you can to get out of work,when you get up at night and hide your own work boots.ha ha,also known as a lazy bum.

[@AGirlNamedVan]

I lol same as a cheat day and falling off the diet wagon

[@crazycatman5928]

Rest comes after work.

[@lydiatheglimmermaid]

This is ridiculous. There are lots of reasons why a person may not be motivated by said reason. They could be struggling with depression, burn out, anxiety, perfectionism, unresolved trauma. To say that anyone who doesn't feel motivated by said reasons to work is slothful is really damaging and misleading.

[@itspikachutime5624]

that's probably not what he was saying though. like ... there has to be a level of ... whats the word im looking for? benefit of the doubt doesn't sound right but close enough? there has to be a certain level of benefit of the doubt you give people. say a benefit of the doubt that in this case Piper is talking about just regular functioning individuals not people suffering burn out, anxiety, trauma, depression, etc. these are all perfectly good reasons someone may struggle to work, but unless he said something like "this stupid depression burn out nonsense is just some modern day myth by this generation back in my day that wasn't a thing we just worked, this stuff isn't a thing they're being LAZY" or whatever ... yea sure I'm all for what your saying. but he didn't say anything even close to that, so I think it would be fair to assume until stated otherwise that this is probably aimed more at normal functional individuals who just want to work and not the types you listed.

[@rogerwalters6443]

Not in California, John Piper. The laziness of the sluggerds is rewarded and the diligent do not get their rest and they are having harder times paying for things. But there is going to come a day when I can rest from my work. THE GLORIOUS DAY OF CHRIST YOU SHALL NOT ROB ME OF MY PEACE, JOHN PIPER.

[@youbetyourwrasse]

Rest? So woman cannot make meals or labor over the needs of chidlren on one day a week?

[@AustinTerryFilms]

Have you read the gospels? The Pharisees used the argument that you just commented to try and outsmart Jesus. The point is, Jesus told us the sabbath, a rest day, is for YOUR good, for YOUR restfulness. At the same time, you can use your common sense to tend to absolutely necessary things on sabbath day. Are you taking a nice stroll on sabbath and see somebody drowning near a pond shore? Well the Pharisees would argue that you let them drown, because you must rest on sabbath. Jesus said that you indeed should use your common sense specifically on Sabbath to do the things necessary in front of you. Save the drowning person on Sabbath. Basically, make food for your kids on Sabbath.

[@thedrizzlefactory8600]

Is this a serious question?

[@roch7]

What's the problem ?

[@thedrizzlefactory8600]

@@roch7 the answer is just so blatantly obvious I can’t believe someone actually needs helps with it. It’s borderline laughable.

[@roch7]

There are brothers and sisters actually dealing with depression, and they don't know how to deal with this question..Don't be too harsh bro. Maybe this question has been asked by a new believer, who knows... There are also believers Which have been in legalistic churches and they dont how to rest/how to be (really) active for the Lord.

[@roch7]

Sorry if I have made mistakes speaking, I'm not an english native speaker.

[@helenas7605]

@@thedrizzlefactory8600 so you think helping other Christians with their questions and insecurities is laughable? Get off your high horse and please think a bit more before commenting. Not everybody has the same standards and knowledge as you. Different people have different problems and questions. No need to be so judgemental