What to Do When Your Trust Is Betrayed

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[@ruthj38]

I feel for his ex-friend's wife - he did this just after a re-affirming of their love ceremony - what a bastard

[@sarahalderman3126]

Yeah, I really feel for her too. For him to cheat on the same day he was supposedly reaffirming his love for her is unbelievable. Why bother with the ceremony when you obviously don't love her? It makes absolutely no sense unless it was all a cover to cheat.

[@loribernardisunwell9663]

​@@sarahalderman3126its called pure and utter selfishness. He keeps his wife strung along because he doesnt want to be alone, but then tries to sleep with his best friends wife because he "wants to know what it feels like"...these are the actions of an insecure, selfish, entitled person. He doesnt deserve either woman nor his "best" friend. He deserves pure and utter lonlieness...

[@LaughingblueSu]

Excellent point. I hope she calls in as well. I bet it was not the first time he cheated.

[@KatMarie1992]

I was thinking the same thing!!! Insane

[@anthill1510]

@@sarahalderman3126 Mostly people do these reaffirming ceremonies to tell the world and themselves that everything is fine even so it isn`t.

[@aimeerebecca1]

He unfriended you on Social Media?!?! That tells me he’s fully aware of what happened and can’t cope with the truth of what that makes him. What a child. He wanted to make that move on her for a LONG time!!!

[@helena3631]

exactly he been trying to get with the finacee this is the excuse he is using

[@peterlee584]

​@@helena3631Exsctly!!

[@sds6303]

Yup, the guy is a narcissist

[@shirk_slayer]

It don't matter, someone trying to sleep with your wife is choosing to be your enemy, not your friend. Regardless it's over.

[@theresahaire9660]

Im curious if his wife knows?

[@franciehartsog1347]

It’s even worse than a family member betrays you. We are living in a world where people do not take responsibility for their actions.

[@sjordan7085]

Exactly! Society has become more and more crude and rude, when becoming more refined would be the better option!

[@adrianratlief1312]

I've worked in the ER. Everyone is sleeping with everyone & that goes for 3 different locations. I'm sorry, but his opportunities will be endless & he has shown that he doesn't have the self control needed to be there & stay married. You don't even have kids yet! He will do this again! He only changed his tune at work because you were going to rat him out. I wouldn't trust him again. Please do not have a child with this man.

[@MisterNightfish]

"If I actually asssaulted your wife, I'm sorry". The only way that apology could be better is if he played a ukulele while making it. As far as talking to the guy goes, I don't see a point. Hearing the reason for this type of stuff never makes it any better. The reasons are always so stupid that you end up only feeling more stupid yourself for having heard it.

[@SebionBion]

colleen ballinger lol

[@patriciaalbertson5183]

Ha haha... Good analogy

[@axiomaddict]

Not “if”. “I assaulted your wife and I’m really sorry.” Period.

[@almazarchetypes]

😂😂😂 The ukulele part cracked me up.

[@babettelenz7995]

"Sorry dude, I'm not gonna cut the crust off of your bread. Be an adult." LOVE IT!!!

[@Kevintendo]

Hahaha yes!!! 💯

[@loribernardisunwell9663]

Being nice to someone IS NOT flirting OR an invitation to sleep with them. That guys friend is a waste of space. He deserves no chance to speak or make excuses. Get rid of him and keep her. The end.

[@Applauseify]

When you have not been told as a child not to have any boundaries and then you are grown ass adult and your partner or best friend violates your trust multiple times. Your gut tries to warn you but you are so confused as your understanding is fucked when it comes to you. you are confused and you keep on giving benefit of doubt or misread reality knowingly because you have been told not to have standards in the name of blood, relations and sake of keeping peace

[@d.l831]

Truth!!!

[@lisafeck1537]

Sounds like you're well acquainted with narcissistic gaslighting. Finding self after... finding solid ground, the struggle is real.

[@jeanniesabol5410]

When you're not taught you have the right to establish and enforce boundaries, you let people disrespect and trample all over you. Respect yourself. Know your value. You have the right to establish and enforce boundaries. You NEVER have to be treated with disrespect.

[@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188]

Yeah been there. Took me a long time to understand this

[@mimimonster]

Bwahaha John’s comment “Nah dude… it’s like he’s following you on Legend of Zelda.” EPIC. That should be how all adults see social media. Not real life or communication.

[@Kevintendo]

I smiled so hard at the reference!!!

[@patriciaalbertson5183]

😂 so funny

[@MattTerrell-gc9vw]

I know john says its legend of zelda, not real, and "be an adult" about social media BUT unfriending someone on social takes effort. So this dude took out the time to go through and unfriend him... he knew EXACTLY what he was doing and had those thoughts for a very long time

[@shellyjohnson8491]

We have a couple that we are super close to and I can compliment the husband but he's never ever made a pass at me. He said all that to make himself feel better. He knows the truth.

[@Anthony-77]

1st call, probably not the first time his brother tried to cheat on his wife too. I’m betting there’s history. I wouldn’t use my energy to contact him. Not a friend, move on and let go. Good luck!

[@Starday723y]

Considering they're having some sort of surprise remarriage. I would bet the equity on my house you are correct.

[@vbashi]

I came here to say this. Women are playthings to him, best friend's woman included. I feel for his wife because she's been through this and other kinds of hell before.

[@simplygina7703]

This is why having boundaries between male / female relationships outside of your romantic relationship is important. ESPECIALLY when alcohol is involved. I would never disrespect my significant other by staying outside on a porch drinking with his buddy while my man is asleep inside. It just looks inappropriate to me and could be easily misconstrued. A group setting with my partner there with me is a totally different thing. To me, I’d rather be safe than sorry.

[@blueseptember2174]

Id be trying to get away "well it's getting pretty late", "oh, I better go check on Jerod", "you know I'm starting to feel kinda bad, gotta go" 😅

[@tinam761]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@peterlee584]

But, isn't that just blaming the victim?? Why doesn't he bear any responsibility for what happened?? After all, he's not only been his friend for over 20 years, he's also married and he should be mature enough to control himself. Just because a woman compliments you or puts her hand on your shoulder during an emotional moment does not give you the right to make a pass at her. Any guy who thinks that is thinking with the wrong body part!! He's also behaving like an immature frat boy!!

[@csx6910]

Precisely. Wish more people understood this.

[@simplygina7703]

@@peterlee584 it’s not blaming the victim at all. If anything, it goes to show his character too! But what I’m asking is, why would either party voluntarily put themselves in a situation where something could happen? The alcohol, the alone time…. Adds up to trouble in my opinion. Either party should’ve known that.

[@TroubleActual]

Betrayal is a knife in the gut and back. I personally wouldn't leave my woman alone with a man, but i understand the loyalty you thought was there.😢. At least you found out sooner than later. I know 20yrs is a pretty long time, i lost a bro in similar situation. Get your closure with him, say what you need to say, not sure i would even listen to his response. You got a lot more life ahead instead of letting someone keep you in the negative past. Hopefully it will hurt him more than it hurts you. Don't drink poison and wait the other to die. Best wishes

[@maryt5018]

Dr. Delony I appreciate you empowering us to set healthy boundaries with our families and create our own traditions.

[@annstewart8506]

The caller is lucky to have a fiancee who loves him enough to push away his best friends advances. Go ahead and marry her dude, you have a keeper. Off load the best friend.

[@rachelgooden9981]

Yeh so many women are silent about it

[@annstewart8506]

@@rachelgooden9981 More women should expose these fake friends their partners have in their lives.

[@peterlee584]

So true!!

[@hoops8534]

Interestingly I thought what vibes was his friend picking up that he thought he could try and kiss her.

[@loribernardisunwell9663]

​@@hoops8534right! A simple compliment IS NOT permission to try and force yourself upon someone. That "friend" is one step up from an incel ffs smh...

[@jasonmedeiros9492]

Wow What a friend! GET RID OF HIM

[@skittleiggyluv]

LIE DETECTOR. My husband lied in therapy for months. The therapist believed him. My parents believed him. When faced with a lie detection test and finally admitted to 10 years of cheating. Our therapist ended up apologizing to me for having believed him.

[@patriciaalbertson5183]

Yeah... At least he finally apologized,. But, she makes a person feel gas lit. My X was this way... A big liar

[@patriciaalbertson5183]

" IT" sure makes

[@skittleiggyluv]

@@patriciaalbertson5183I am so sorry you are going through this. It’s not right or fair. Big hugs.

[@skittleiggyluv]

@@patriciaalbertson5183and it is totally abusive gaslighting.

[@loribernardisunwell9663]

Did your parents ever apologize?!

[@CatGoldie]

To the parents with a premature baby at 26 weeks old. You are doing right by putting her life first. So many things can come up with a preemie. I had preemie twins. Issues with their health. If anyone came over, they had to be healthy, I had sanitizer all over the place. Grandparents could hold them...visitors were spread out. Everyone respected why and what we did with boundaries. Prayers all have gone well. Blessings

[@SaintTrinianz]

Sooner or later, we are all betrayed in some significant way by a significant person in our lives. I think betrayal is the ultimate test of character. It will either bring out the best or the worst in you. Betrayal can make you or break you...

[@dsmolks1]

Was it a love song to your wife… savage 💀 😂

[@sammyhoskins1359]

I feel like it was lol

[@s_gal9900]

Went through something similar. Had to cut off a friend of 10+ years because she started getting wildly inappropriate with my fiancé after we got engaged. I always knew she was like that, but foolishly thought she had a line somewhere. LOL. She was pissed when we got engaged and it really showed. Byeeeee. ✂️✂️✂️

[@d.l831]

I’ve learned to NEVER think that I am the exception to someone’s character. It just might not be my turn in line yet. I hope all’s well with you though.❤

[@s_gal9900]

@@d.l831 you’re so right. Lesson learned the hard way this time. It’s been greatness since she’s been out of my life for a while now. Definitely the right move for me I only wish I would’ve done it sooner. I wish my fiancé would’ve been more straight up with me about his level of discomfort through it all. I felt this guys pain on this call. So hard. Thank you for your kind words!!🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@cecilealexander652]

Dr. John, GREATTTT advice, EXCELLENT advice to that caller of the 20 year friendship, ..Thanks Dr. John for helping us with LIFE'S TRAUMA.

[@angietyndall7337]

The Dr. Delony Show I love how down to earth you, Dr Delony are. I also like how you understand HBSE, Psychology, Nature v. Nuture; etc. SO well and take all of that, plus being down to earth and warm personality; etc. It makes it so easy for people to speak with you, want to listen to you; etc. You have quite the gift in helping people. 😊!! You remind me of a co-worker of mime, who is the same way and an LCSW.

[@texasrodeogirl3814]

I wonder if the friend’s wife knows what happened and how she reacted. Is the friend lying to her too? She’ll have to wonder why they don’t associate with Jarod & his wife anymore.

[@ILuvMyBrwnSkin]

That's all I was thinking!

[@Anthony-77]

He’s a total cheater. She probably has an idea. The gut tells you everything. It’s what you allow.

[@lisafeck1537]

Yep, it isn't over until his wife knows both sides of the story.

[@patriciaalbertson5183]

If course, he is lying to her too! Absolutely... She needs to wake up!

[@LifeBetweenTheDash]

She figures something really bad happened since he was kicked out of the wedding.

[@TPeack21]

I have a couple of friends in my life that have done things towards me and my family that I just shut the door and never looked back. I don’t think about them very often. I also don’t really let people in very easily either. I’m happy and ok with that.

[@michelleelliott3827]

Caller #2..... he's lying.... he'll just learn how to hide his behavior better! I just went through this, and it made me feel crazy!!! Get out of that.... fast!!!

[@laurennguyen1008]

I saw you on the Minimal Mom channel and really enjoy your show. My daughter's husband cheated on her when he was at training for a career that supposedly values integrity. They were married 11 years and we all spent a lot of time together. He has handled it like this guy's friend -like a teenager, not a man. My daughter has handled it better than I have. I keep hoping for reconciliation and feel sorry for my ex-son in law but I know his problems are all self induced and I have to get over it. I'm mostly shocked and don't believe he is the person his actions and words show him to be. My husband, son, and all relatives would never welcome him back and I know I don't wish for my daughter to hope he will be faithful. I thank you because I know I have to go through mourning. On a lighter note, my son says Jane Austen is the reason I am having a hard time letting it go.

[@blueseptember2174]

I am living this too 😢. Wish your daughter and I were friends who could meet up and talk. Our scenarios are basically the same. Feels like he got to ruin my whole future.

[@kconnor2371]

I’d say a person‘s words and actions, especially actions, do show you who they are. When a person shows you who they are, believe them. it can be incredibly hard, especially if you’re like me that you constantly give more and more chances and benefits of the doubt..

[@Prometheuspredator]

You "Hoping for a reconciliation?" You have got to be kidding me. Your son in law was caught cheating and as far as your concerned it would be nice if they reconcile. You do realize this is probably not the only time he has cheated he was caught this time or he fessed up as his conscience was nagging at him. If there is a reconciliation you do realize there is a high risk he will cheat again. He knowingly and consciously made a choice to have an affair. He made the decision his affair partner did not. You son in law could have easily set a boundary, dismissed, and refuted her advances. Will you be as understanding as you said, "feeling sorry for him" and accommodating and hope they reconcile? Will your daughter be able to trust him again? Or will she be constantly worried, stressed, and obsessed about his ability to stay faithful. It sounds as if your daughter is handling it better than you are and like you said, "You have to get over it." Why are you thinking about his wellbeing and problems? It is non of your business to be concerned for his wellbeing. Who cares about how he is managing it. You primary concern needs to be focused on your daughter and supporting her. For myself i would have been angry and would have never had thoughts of a reconciliation between my daughter and her husband, but the opposite and i sure wouldn't be feeling sorry for him. He made his bed now he has to lay in it.

[@tomnohmy1273]

I saw John with Dave Ramsey daughter, Cruz taking calls, what a beautiful, smart woman, her husband is so lucky.

[@deanaburnham9571]

😊 God bless you Dr Daloney. So many with doctorates and media platforms are condescending to their guests. You are respectful and humble, competent and confident. We need godly men such as you. Thank you.

[@deanaburnham9571]

Mort Fertel has a program called Marriage Fitness It's worth checking out for safeguarding your marriage bubble and repairing your marriage through skill building which is sensible and biblical. You don't keep revisiting issues as much as doing exactly the actions that create trust, forgiveness, open discussion; all of this invites genuine intimacy.

[@ToLovelyJesus]

I’m so grateful for that last caller because I’ve been in a similar situation.

[@badabing661]

*whew* I listened to the first story and let the video keep rolling. It literally spoke to a similar shitstorm that I’m going through right now. I totally understand where Jane is coming from. 😔

[@Youdontneedtoknowmyname3-iu1vk]

Caller #2 the fact that Delony said an option to go over msgs and tracking the location is the worse advice. If ur at that point then its over u cant track a grown man/woman like a child. Its over already

[@SebionBion]

Unrelated but i like your Daria photo !

[@pimaggot]

He should be the one to allow her access so she can slowly build trust.

[@rachelgooden9981]

Exactly

[@rachelgooden9981]

She’s fully invested with all the fertility treatment though. She won’t leave. She’s gonna become angry, bitter , nagging and annoying. And it’s going to push him to do more of the crap that he’s already doing

[@show_me_your_kitties]

I know right! What a great time for fertility treatments.

[@tespese]

What is the POINT of cheating....what is the POINT of committing to someone and to say that you are that you feel that you will do something..only to violate your own words?? Why..what is the lure of this behavior...it CONFUSES me so much.....I wish that humans could be honest...I really do think that would be so much progress for our species....

[@normantheforeman9866]

That’s called sexual assault, for that first call there.

[@MrDareius91]

Dr John you are a true inspiration! Thank you so much for your work! I really appreciate how you approach these calls and in general your personality/wisdom :D Thanks!!

[@lilstkngal]

I appreciate the varieties of your interview, how you try to help the trouble caller to look at what the next step can look like to even how to face the consequences. It's educating & even entertaining as well as being especially serious. I like your format to even getting the opinion of your lady staff as she seem to add her opinion even as a non professional. I only discovered you few weeks ago as I watch many podcasters.

[@zuzu2416]

“Im not gonna cut the crust off of your bread - be an adult” Love it!

[@sandylopez1069]

Dr. D and his frat boy energy/hook, light heart demeanor, dishing out Truth. In HUMAN TERMS. Will be sharing link. With clients.

[@bethkelsey1]

I ended a twenty-year super close relationship when she interfered in my marriage. My husband and I had separated for a year. I was done. I even quit my job where we worked together. No contact. When he came to me with an epiphany and changes he had already made, wanting another chance, I gave him another chance (not for long). I found out months later, it was not an epiphany. My friend had been meeting secretly with him for months spoon feeding him everything that he needed to say to win me back.Things I had confided in her. So I lost two people I cared about and had a long history with. But, neither could be trusted. Bamboozled! I am better off.

[@Foxie635]

Why would each couple not go to bed together as a couple?

[@jasonmedeiros9492]

Cause their bodies are the same temperature

[@umiluv]

It’s totally possible to heal from infidelity. It’s hard AF but what John says is true. If you make it through the other side together, it’s the strongest love you will ever have for each other. You learn to be totally honest with each other. There’s no insecurity, just love. But BOTH sides have a lot of work to do to get there.

[@jasonmedeiros9492]

Disagree. People that Lie Lie.

[@sarahalderman3126]

I suppose... however it is EXTREMELY uncommon, especially if the cheater is older or male.

[@jedidiahross7447]

The second caller has an elephant in the room. How do you say my life is all about me, while pretending i care about my spouse. My understanding is her feeling of violation was best expressed with the, 'yeah, get it off here, blah, blah, then he turned off his location.' Lady, there's two of you here! The question for you is, Do you want a relationship with him as a man? Or another kid? If you leave kid on the table, blame yourself when he acts like one.

[@HelloNowGirl]

I would not have a conversation with the friend who hit on your fiancée. Move on and grieve. I had a 37 year friendship end over a betrayal and it still stings 4 years later.

[@evah787]

First Caller: This is very hurtful and a shocking betrayal from a long "friend". I am a mature female and a friend gossiped about me around a table of +-10 people. Mocked my "blessings", so such "came out" via other people EXCEPT 1 thing??? She never told these people that when her and her husband husband couldn't pay their rent; I listened and gave them full rent plus an extra $100 on top.... I pulled the CASH out of a draw in front of her - yet she even told this Group that I kept money in my house!!! She "slandered" me about even wonderful things in my life but NEVER mentioned my monetary gift. I walked away... when I confronted her (shock)... she denied it all!!!! Yes, you do going into a grief period.....

[@shirleycurry6482]

Hey, Dr. Delony - On Jane from Nebraska - The very 1st thing she needs to do, is STOP TAKING FERILITY TREATMENT; esp. if she is having questions about the marriage. It doesn't make any sense to go deeper in to this relationship; unless she's sure about it. Secondly, fertility treatments involve hormone injections - they're probably raging right now and will affect Jane's ability to make a sound decision about this incident. She needs all her faculties right now to determine where she stands and what will make this right by her. Finally, when a subordinate; who apparently thought it was appropriate to be involved in a sexting incident after an evening out with people that included her direct boss; decides to file a sexual harassment suit - and since she received the work discipline and not him, that's a real possibility - all the details will come tumbling out anyway. That should "encouragement" for him to own up, right up front. He might be feeling safe right now because he retained his rank and salary; but he shouldn't. Sexual Harassment suits are nasty, costly business and he just left his employer right open, in a way that they are sure NOT to appreciate.

[@rachelgooden9981]

Second caller won’t leave her husband. Especially after starting IVF and all of that. IVF can also wreak havoc on relationships.

[@sammyhoskins1359]

This. I think the fertility industry can be predatory towards some families

[@12yearssober]

Ive been the guy who makes the pass. Without exception i never made the pass at a taken woman unless i was given more than a few signs from the woman that the interest was there.

[@lifegenius763]

Very sad situation but Dr is right..close it down respectfully and move on

[@APerfectTriangle]

Duno if Dr John lost track of his question but he was asking how does he get closure, not whether it's over or not. Sounds like his friend revealed his true colours and he has to grieve the friendship he thought he had but never was. Feel for the guy, he should look into narcissism and see if he's been manipulated by him.

[@cynthiagonzales6761]

Dont believe him he is lying to you he wont stop i been told before I wont talk to her or anyone i wont do this or that it was all a lie

[@smccourt02720]

In the case of new baby, what if step dad abused mom? And everyone wants to pretend it never happened. Both mom and stepdad say it did. (Though stepdad minimizes it). This is not “it’s too weird”. This is he was emotionally and verbally abusive and mom says he continues to be manipulative, gaslighting and threatening.

[@shadowykitty5588]

As someone who lost a 20-year friendship I can attest to the fact that when they stab you in the face it is the most harsh ice water to the face feeling and it absolutely just broke me for years. She was engaged to my brother and she ended up cheating on him and leaving him for a quote unquote bad boy because my brother was the safe option and he was boring to her apparently and when her dad came back into the picture she wanted to please him so much that she joined the cult that he was a part of and completely ghosted me in my entire family. I grew up with her parents phone number on my refrigerator I have one of my earliest memories I remember feeling her kick in her mother's stomach and we have been Inseparable since birth and it just absolutely gutted me.... I mourned losing her more than I ever mourned my first marriage and my divorce to get away from my abusive ex

[@FEVERDREAM889]

Caller #1 demonstrates that you cannot trust anyone around your partner/spouse. Trust no one. Do not invite unnecessary drama into your relationship by assuming you can trust people.

[@sbdsinc8366]

Regarding the first caller, one would wonder what other issues had been going on in the friendship, as someone’s character does not change overnight. Was the caller was blind to these things? Once you are betrayed that way, do you test your friends earlier on in the relationship in the future?

[@Prometheuspredator]

2nd caller. She is not going to leave her husband. He can always get a burner phone.

[@caringforall4454]

Yes, by going to HR, she’s just forced him to get even more sneaky. They’ve probably set up aliases and more covert. He’s still cheating I bet

[@KH-nt7ej]

I would be out the door. Her husband is sketchy. And not fully honest. He is cheating and will continue to cheat. He will just be more secretive about it.

[@nikstar1313]

Oh my goodness mate, so many codependent women in this country makes me so triggered. If your spouse has cheated, it’s time to move on ..none of this bs.. oh my goodness me ..Seriously!? Being alone will not kill you! ❤

[@PatriotLadyFL]

Honestly, I never would’ve had another couple over my house drinking and gone to bed and left them alone together….. I think after the dinner and drinks are over go home or call them an Uber …..but don’t ever leave people in that situation with alcohol

[@dianamerren1317]

The lady who s husband is cheating needs to make a decision.

[@marietgagliardi]

2nd caller, dump him.

[@sarahalderman3126]

Feel awful for this woman (2nd caller). Her husband is cheating on her while trying to conceive. Classic man. Obviously he does not love her or his own children.

[@sarahalderman3126]

@@SarahConnor562 typical, usual, or a good example of…

[@srobertson422]

My girl, there is nothing typical about a dude cheating while TTC. On like, every level.

[@sarahalderman3126]

@@srobertson422 actually it is one of the MOST common times that men cheat, along with the births of children, marriage, anniversaries, any significant life changes, deaths, menopause etc.

[@srobertson422]

@@sarahalderman3126 ok, so that's the most common time for cheaters to cheat, that actually says nothing about "classic men." The vast majority of men, and all people, actually don't cheat. Extrapolating a behavior from the minority to the majority and coloring the whole majority as though they are all the same is a huge fallacy in thinking.

[@srobertson422]

@@sarahalderman3126 you are correct that big life changes are a time to cheat, or get divorced, or otherwise finally acknowledge that they aren't happy in this relationship, but that is a) not limited to men b) not limited to cheating behavior, and c) not true for moderately happy or healthy people. So, again, not classic in any way of men specifically.

[@therealsandraweise]

No mention of the betrayal to their other friend. The wife of this guy. Did they tell her????

[@Sbullo]

Dawson’s Creek! Love your analogy.

[@9384cows]

This new mother needs to stand her ground. Preemies are super susceptible to all sorts of illness that people innocently bring into your house. And if someone has a coldsore on their mouth it could possibly be herpes and they don't even realize it. I knew someone whose baby was kissed on the mouth by a realitive who had a coldsore who gave that innocent baby herpes and it killed her! When my brother was a newborn my parents were visited by well meaning relatives. Someone had the sniffles and my brother who was full term and very healthy ended up with pneumonia and had to be in NICU for over a month. You can NEVER be too safe with babies. She is yours and your rules. They will get over it and if they don't that is an indication of a very selfish adult who is not putting your baby's or your decisions first! Good Luck and !💖💖💖👍👍👍

[@erikaberrio8927]

You mentioned Dawson’s Creek more than one episode…interesting lol

[@julialopez-sb8mz]

Your wife should never be alone with another guy even if you see him as a brother, a man should always protect his lady . They shouldn't have been alone and alcohol around.

[@reneephillips7303]

He doesn't need to talk to him for closure that's stooping to his level not worth his energy

[@fine3023]

Why would you go to bed without your fiance, and why would your friend's wife go to bed without her husband?!!! What the he'll your friend and your fiance were doing?! I don't believe this guy. This is so fishy

[@PatriotLadyFL]

OK, maybe the wife is lying has anyone ever thought of that????maybe she was flirting with him? I think there’s more to the story why does everybody automatically believe a woman’s accusations? There’s always two sides to the story

[@gracehouse11]

And why are those two the only ones not going to bed? That’s odd to me….that it’s late and spouses go to sleep leaving two opposite sex alone. As a woman, I would be like “well, I better get to sleep, too! Night!”

[@ArentYoMamaD]

I dunno. I would like to know how long it took the fiancé to tell him. It should have been less than 3 minutes. 🤷‍♀️

[@jeradkiester698]

Jane needs to call it quits, the vitriol and nuclear response to make him lose his job.... can't imagine why he wants to spend time with other women. What a peach. He's still a slimeball, but it you are entirely unpleasant, your spouse will not want to stay.

[@jeradkiester698]

Going to HR to make your husband lose his job is cutting your nose off to spite your face.

[@erichchan3]

@@jeradkiester698 Yeah jane is not a very smart cookie. Her husband is a high level employee and making him lose his job means what.....shes definitely sabotaging the entire thing. Guess what when a woman feels financially insecure she will leave.

[@neededtobesaid4275]

Wonder if the fiancee decided to make the first strike. Maybe, she came on to his best friend and was rejected. Now, she has made up a story to protect herself just in case the best friend tells her fiancee! Sounds like something out of a novel but it happens. It sounds crazy but we know how easily a woman can deceive a man. How many men are raising or paying child support for a child that isn't theirs?!? The deception is real...

[@MisterNightfish]

It sounds like you're watching a little too much red pill content. Just think about it for a second. If the fiancee also wanted to cheat, she and the caller's former best friend would have just fucked and nobody would ever know. Doesn't take sherlock holmes to figure that one out, one occam's razor does the trick. Don't just write fan fiction because you want every story to fit into your worldview.

[@pennyk1943]

Great comment.👍

[@jedidiahross7447]

Yeah, nah. If that has happened, his friend should have been the one with the hard pass. So, irregardless of what she's done, the violation is between the guys.

[@ToLovelyJesus]

If that were the case then the friend’s response would’ve been different.

[@NunyaBitness-xq9ed]

@10:54 When you “finally found out”? Your wife didn’t immediately tell you about this? How did you find out about this?

[@legion7193]

You deserve better friends.

[@WatchfulHunter]

End the relationship immediately for unfidelity. If a person cannot control themselves, they should not be in a relationship. Emotional attachment is your enemy. Never fall in love with a person. People cannot be trusted. Trust in The LORD with ALL of your heart.

[@otiliamanuelajurj]

Exactly!

[@crackerjack010101]

This guy is done. He can’t admit what he’s done. He’s been wanting to do this for ages. It’s time to cut a horse loose. To do anything less is to choose him over the fiancé and he may as well find a divorce lawyer if he decides to let this guy have any chance at anything. He’s dead to you, my dude.

[@dannelle17]

Poor guy didn’t tell u he unfollowed him for a lecture, man lol we know social media is trash, empathize for a second

[@carriebell3566]

It is the husband’s burden of proof to show he didn’t cheat on her. Him not coming clean is failing to provide such proof

[@irenejankowski1238]

I think his fiance must forgive him. The fiancee should tell his wife. And ultimately he needs to acknowledge what he did. It is a group forgiveness

[@alqoshgirl]

No one asking about the wife… that poor woman having to deal with such POS of a husband

[@semosancus5506]

He fell in love with your fiance!

[@kamoore179]

I am a NICU nurse. Stick to your guns!!

[@Kevintendo]

35:56 what does Dr John say here lol or sounds like f**king

[@peterlee584]

I think it's "talking".

[@marysaltlife1427]

I think it's "stalking."

[@carriebell3566]

Nope. Do NOT trust him!

[@wonder12374]

For the first call. I could totally see his finace lying about this just to get the friend out the picture. If he starts seeing other relationships get distanced because of her he needs to leave...super quick.

[@flashthecorgi2053]

No because the guy said that the response from the friend was “I just wanted to see how it feels” which would mean he is admitting he did it!

[@wonder12374]

@flashthecorgi2053 that was not the response directly to the husband that is what the wife or finace told him his friend said to her .. This man chose not to speak to him at all sense the incident and when he did his friend apologized and said he was too drunk to remember and if it did happen he was sorry..... Sounds like a finace that wants the BF gone to me....and created the opportunity for it to happen... P.s. if my man goes to bed so do I, I'm not staying up, continuing to drink, and talk with his male friends without him....

[@flashthecorgi2053]

@@wonder12374 he said they had an initial conversation when it happened that resulted in him telling the guy to leave so it for sure could of happened in that exchange! 10:53

[@StormyMonday0896]

Yeah, the last thing my ex said was that he never cheated....well, that depends on what you call cheating 1. The hooker at your bachelor party 2. Going to strip clubs 3. Watching porn instead of sleeping with your wife 4. Tricking your wife into moving 3000 miles away to help your parents 5. Not coming to see your wife in that far away town for 1.5 years ROFL

[@MegaPlucas]

He's probably scared his wife will find out

[@rosiek649]

Why would you even think of killing a man cuz he made 2 passes at your wife? He didn’t even sleep with her! This shows you need to work on yourself your anger. You don’t even own your wife you were born a single entity and we all die single come on! We all wanna possess our spouses body isn’t that a flaw? She can choose to pursue another man any time. You don’t own her. It’s better to self-reflect cuz that’s a weakness that you’re so bothered by it. You can mourn a friendship we never own our wife! Please listen to monks and learn to let go of possessions, one of them is ownership over your wife. You’ll heal better.

[@shirk_slayer]

This is why in Muslim culture we socialize separately, women in one room and men in the other. You can't deny human nature.

[@martusia4594]

Yeah always human nature excuse. It's being an idiot ...not human nature

[@delmahnori1582]

The friend is a jerk. He is not a real friend. He has a crush on your fiance and thatbis why he wrote the song and try to kiss your fiance. This is a sign of betrayal and you should cut tie when you saw this. He is not of your feiendship because he didn't respect you. This is not a good friend and you should not talk thing over with him.

[@Mari-lv1rd]

alcohol was involved I think

[@Mszahnclass95]

It sounds like the beginning of a Dawson's Creek lol i loved that show i watched it religiously 😂 wow that second caller ,i would say the husband's bs .women have excellent internal instincts an i see a divorce iñ the near future .lets stop playing Matlock 😂

[@Clic03]

❤ that song

[@angietyndall7337]

Guest No. 2: Jury Nullification, maybe "according to Wikipedia" ...?

[@katmac5045]

Mmmm.. why would you stay up talking to another man/woman after your partner has retired Maybe if it’s a large gathering but just 2 others nah

[@TraceyThorpe-o5b]

🙌🙏

[@homesteadnewbie]

Working in the hospital around nurses is like working in a strip club

[@julialopez-sb8mz]

Your closure should be ok,, his out. He disrespect you and your lady.

[@pinkfairydust83]

I think John is great, but I can't cope with the outbursts of laughter when people talk about things in their lives that are devastating and traumatic. I get that he likes to perhaps lighten the mood but it's a little insensitive

[@Daniellapalo]

I think that it is good sometimes….. people need to be shaken out of that loop like the second caller

[@keylacmckemp1309]

Also I think he laughs to stop saying something that will get him canceled. When I hear something incredulous I also laugh because this can't be real.

[@sarahwelty-gc5jo]

I would tell his wife ....maybe