What Was Cut? | Grand Theft Auto IV - Episode 15

[@thinkeightsix]

Dwayne: "All you wanna do is play video games." Also Dwayne: "I always love games."

[@PauloHernandezXD]

Me talking to myself in a nutshell :3 It's my day off today & what am I gonna be doing? lol

[@Reichsritter]

hahaha ​@@PauloHernandezXD

[@TKsh1]

I don't know why, but hearing Niko saying "gaming" is so hilarious.

[@TheAurelianProject]

That’s probably why they removed it. Gaming doesn’t match Niko’s character.

[@SlenderMaster1509]

i love the bea pfp

[@ObamaSphere]

Geh-ming

[@dawsond4123]

Niko Gaming

[@davemegadeth4025]

niko gaming

[@ignacioledesma1030]

In another universe, people quote Roman saying "Cousin let's play videogames"

[@AlphaGarg]

@pancakeluxury23 Damn I like this alternate universe :( can we find a slipgate or something to travel to it?

[@GG_MYDAWG]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@pancakeluxury23now that I read this, that Universe might not be so cool

[@GG_MYDAWG]

@pancakeluxury23 fr ? Damn not too shabby then

[@aeternatenebrae]

@pancakeluxury23RDR2 level story?

[@randomuploaderguy]

Cousin, let's do some of the gaming

[@NkosanaMakhubele]

Backspace😊

[@chriswakefield9538]

A joke from 16 years ago, nice!

[@NkosanaMakhubele]

@@chriswakefield9538 Why are u mad sir?

[@Koptevoi]

niko stop camping thats not fair cousin

[@TriggerzConnors]

*right click on a cellphone*

[@chris_player2995]

Seeing Niko "gaming" would have been hilarious

[@TheAurelianProject]

That’s probably why they removed it. It doesn’t match the character. Edit: by the way, since people don’t seem to be agreeing with this comment based on likes, I just want you to know that it’s been literally said many times from rockstar devs that certain features were removed because it conflicted with Niko’s character. I’m not pulling this out of my butt.

[@chris_player2995]

@@TheAurelianProject i agree ..kinda I mean he can play QU3BD in the final release

[@Wojtek_Ch]

lol can image Niko rage quitting 😂

[@chris_player2995]

@@Wojtek_Ch "arghh this is fokeen bullsheet!" *throws controller*

[@alexcrawford5350]

“Hei, Rohmunn, wouldjou lyke to do some gaemink?”

[@redscarfinfinite9743]

Niko's love for gaming makes sense given Tetris was made in the soviet union around the time Niko was in his teens

[@Warcriminal-19983]

Yugoslavia was never part of the soviet union

[@internetera1523]

​@@Warcriminal-19983I would assume Yugoslav people had the most access to Soviet games.But I could be wrong

[@redscarfinfinite9743]

@@Warcriminal-19983 rockstar never said he was from Yugoslavia all they said was some country in eastern Europe

[@Warcriminal-19983]

@@redscarfinfinite9743 niko speaks serbian for christ sake

[@redscarfinfinite9743]

@@Warcriminal-19983 multilingual people exist

[@Glenni91N]

Pizza Stack employees do actually show up in the game, one scenario for the game is employees having smoke breaks outside of where they work, some of the pizza restaurants in the game still have them coded to appear, despite not being Pizza Stacks anymore.

[@HackingIsFreedom]

@@Glenni91N That's pretty cool! I've personally never seen that happen.

[@leonidas1093]

​@@HackingIsFreedom you can find them in leftwood

[@David-vd9sb]

​@@HackingIsFreedomdo you take requests

[@dr_skipwith]

Niko saying "You think you're a gamer, do you?" is one of the hardest pieces of media ever concieved.

[@RedWithTheLongYoutubeHandle]

Those drug dealer lines are reused for GTA:Chinatown Wars, and are also burned into my memory for jumpscaring me every time I interacted with them when the DS speakers were on.

[@martov1864]

Also another thing, the drug dealer sounds were used in GTA china town wars for the drug dealers in that game

[@CancerGiver69]

5:42 “Cousin let’s do some meth”

[@The_Cognoscenti]

Same with some of the police baton voice lines

[@bsideblu]

A lot of the voice lines from IV were in CTW, and I think also from LCS

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

rockstar been shitting on the opportunity to add gta 1 and 2 as arcade games in any of the gta hd universes. and its f'n possible, they just need to do it ffs

[@mrheyfuckoff1]

They should also call it "Race'N'Chase"

[@PhallicPhantom2]

Hopefully they finally do it in 6

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

@@PhallicPhantom2 They rather add GBs worth of bs like they do on gta online rather than 80 MB for GTA 1 and 344 MB for 2 😂

[@PhallicPhantom2]

@@TheRastafarianStuff honestly it would be the perfect way for anyone who's never played it to experience it for the first time. I play GTA 1 after I play GTA 2, never played London and GTA III was technically the first GTA I took seriously enough to try to beat

[@keefasmiley6945]

They kinda have gta 1 inspired arcade in gta online

[@chris_player2995]

1:09 who tf wants to hang out with Mori lol

[@labenvenci1584]

In the files, there is 2 unused haircuts for Niko planned for the cut barber. One is designed to resemble helmet-hair (which is how Niko originally appeared in 2007 pre-release footage), and the other a buzz cut, and the default hair is also under this category. Like the gloves seen in early footage, these still exist in the data and can be used with modifications.

[@tylercouture216]

There is a rare screenshot of niko with the buzz cut gloves, a track jacket with glasses holding the shotgun with the city in the background. I can not find it to save my life in existence

[@MuseBySecrecy]

If you remove Niko’s hair model, you can see he has the buzz cut hairstyle textured on his head.

[@ladripper47874]

The drug dealer voice lines were later reused in the next game gta: chinatown wars. Nikos obviously weren't, and some were shortened, but it's definetly those

[@Emidextrous]

absolutely underrated youtuber, I mean that wholeheartedly

[@itsmjq9391]

You might’ve just outdid GTASeriesVideos videos on the GTA IV Beta that has been around for years. I hope you do one on GTA V, 11 Years later and all the Beta videos touch mostly on the same shit everyone knows now. But now that the games source code is out there somewhere and revealed alot more info within the past year, you’ll have alot to work with!

[@chickenpotpieare3things]

0:56 it would have been the only suppressed weapon at the time, but Ballad of Gay Tony's P90-like sub-machine gun is suppressed as well

[@mikedawolf95]

I think they didn’t want to add the suppressor because in some early pictures, the P90 didn’t have a suppressor. Also in Armando’s weapon selling SUV, the P90 doesn’t have the foam cut out for the suppressor

[@NOOSE2008]

even though its vusialy suppressed, its purely cosmetic

[@chickenpotpieare3things]

@@NOOSE2008 Yeah true, peds still run around screaming when you shoot it

[@NOOSE2008]

@@chickenpotpieare3things there Is a script mod that allows you to silence all the GTA 4 guns, which not only changes the sound but also doesn't alert peds around the area unless you shoot it in public

[@chickenpotpieare3things]

@@NOOSE2008 Dope, should have been in the regular game imo

[@gimpscam9976]

10:56 has to be the best line from Roman.

[@HackingIsFreedom]

@@gimpscam9976 That one and the "this game is fucking boring" are some of my favourites 🤣

[@MaksymilianSwierad-tw9sv]

The short pause cracked me up

[@Chill_child]

Niko....lets go gaming

[@MEKK01]

"Rockstar Cafe... We're out of coffee"

[@Sk0p3rIII]

and the "....and bring more money!" which is especially funny when looking at the SharkCards lmao

[@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI]

We’re out of hot coffee you mean

[@Bumpercat86]

"Hey! Wanna smoke some meth?!" way to keep it on the dl

[@tom_606HQ]

13:58 "Please come back, I'm so lonely :(" Poor npc

[@martov1864]

Another certified banger, keep it up big man

[@mojadisco1812]

This channel is going to be huge in 1-3 years

[@HackingIsFreedom]

Hopefully, that would be awesome 😊 Thanks for the support!

[@jcdenton6074]

"Texture for the Glock pistol" - shows texture for a Beretta 92 - bruh

[@alucardwingates447]

a lot of things they cut.. more cars, more things to eat, drugs, more things to do...

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

they probably did it because ps3 and xbox360 weren't so strong in 2008. they might always add all that stuff in a remake or something but for some reason IV is not well seen by R* even tho it has one of the most active communities from all gtas ever. i mean it would be bigger than gta 5 if 5 didn't had online 😂

[@JGYoutube0]

The 7th gen is where the gaming industry started 'changing priorities' shall we say. From good old gameplay and fun, to chasing 'realism', graphic fidelity, and trying to appeal to Hollywood.

[@RPhillK]

@@JGKZbin0 Amen brother.

[@tacticalmattress]

​@JGKZbin0 and due to controversy with previous games. Like San Andreas. They just cut back on things severely. Even this game got a lot of flak by the media. A reason why they dialed back the physics. People back then thought it was too realistic, like the way NPC's react to being shot.

[@NicolasChiribelo]

In the TBOGT cage fighting minigame, you can hear someone cheering for Johnny. It honestly would have made much more sense for Johnny to be the one doing cage fighting instead of Luis; it fits his low-life persona much better than Luis who is constantly trying to escape from the ghetto life. Even Niko would have been a better fit for that, to show his krav-maga skills.

[@hollowinside1962]

Fully agree

[@HeySlickThatsMe]

The robin was a three wheeled police vehicle which exists IRL in NYC (Westward GO-4)

[@XOFInfantryman]

What makes you think that?

[@HeySlickThatsMe]

@@XOFInfantryman The game actually has unused sound data for Robin vehicle and it has sirens and uses caddy noises, it's been known for a long time that it was a three wheel vehicle thanks to it's handling The game code also lists Robin next to other police vehicles including the boat and helicopter, it also has working police dispatch noises like in a police car

[@XOFInfantryman]

@@HeySlickThatsMe i see Thx for elaborating Also in that case, it could have been Cushman instead of Westward too, NYPD around this time were using both with the 1st being more prevelant due to being go to pick since 80s

[@HackingIsFreedom]

@@HeySlickThatsMe Almost none of that is true.

[@HeySlickThatsMe]

@@HackingIsFreedom So what is true and how do you know what isn't

[@Twombly-n1r]

5:56 some of these lines were reused in GTA CTW for the drug dealing minigame

[@aaazz11999]

One of the barbershops in Alderney actually has collision. Interestingly enough, it seems like two different barbershops were planned on that street, as one of the pictures shown here were taken on the same street in Alderney, but in a different building.

[@NicolasChiribelo]

Alderney does have some fake interiors that are similar to what was featured later in the crappy definitive editions of the GTA trilogy with parallax technique. I think those interiors were always meant to be decorative and not a sign of a cut feature. I don't understand why there would be two barbershops next to each other lol.

[@aaazz11999]

Interesting info about the fake interiors! However, those two barbershops were most likely supposed to be enterable: one of them has collision inside (including walls etc.), there are pictures of a ped inside the other one. I wonder if they just wanted to change their position for some reason

[@tacticalmattress]

​@@NicolasChiribeloPerhaps a reference to the movie "Barbershop"

[@patjeff8207]

Yknow I had a pretty rough day but this video just made it better. Great vid 👍

[@Jacorywoohoo]

Just a few corrections in regards to the map: Middle Park was most definitely modeled by that point in the beta map, it was likely not added in because it is such a minor detail, even the pond up in Bohan isn't in that map either, because it was just unneccessary to put it on the map, that map was just to show what the games map looked like at that point in development, the only thing we dont have much evidence for however is the Airport runways, we don't exactly know if that was ever modeled at all, I'm willing to bet it wasn't but things could certainly change if we had more information about it. What I am surprised about is how the map section took up 1 minute meanwhile the voicelines took up 10, there is actually quite a lot of interesting things to say about the map besides the beta map, Middle Park and the Airport. Like how in Northeast Bohan there is a half diamond shaped road that isn't in the final version, in the retail it's just an empty parking lot but because of the more than usual traffic volume exiting the parking lot with no cars ever being parked, the removal of the road was probably late in development, if you watch some of the shows in the game, you can see that southern Bohan looked vastly different with missing buildings and even different ones, and LoD's provide some detail into changed buildings, such as the abandoned Burger Shot at Dukes having a different exterior design for the logo, and multiple building LoD's showing that they could've been restaurants but were cut, theres a lot I can go on about but yeah.

[@HackingIsFreedom]

@Jacorywoohoo The map section was shorter because like you said yourself, I could've went on and on about the little details changed from map to map but I don't find the little things all that interesting. A road added, changed or removed here and there doesn't interest me all that much personally. The voicelines was longer because I know a lot of those gaming voicelines haven't been heard before, some of those I dumped myself. I laughed at a lot of them, so I left I a lot in.

[@ImAPersonHehehehaw]

10:08 “stick to shooting people cousin” “Alright” *blasts Roman in the face*

[@YOEL_44]

4:38 The Dodo is only a water-plane in GTA V, it was a regular Cessna 152 in all the previous games, in fact its water-plane equivalent was the Skimmer.

[@SecretMagician]

It's a joke on how 95% of the time someone tried to fly it in GTA 3, they always fell underwater.

[@YOEL_44]

@SecretMagician Skill issue

[@SecretMagician]

@YOEL_44 This is the first time I've ever seen someone say skill issue that makes sense in context.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

The Empire State Building glitch is kinda like the thing from Harry Potter in the train station. And, uh, another event that happened in New York. No, not that one

[@mikedawolf95]

19:57 I wonder if they cut the ice cream vendors because GTA 4 takes place in the middle of fall?

[@zentran2690]

When you said "Good memories about playing freemode with your buddies" My GTA 4 memories and life flash before my eyes like I was about to die.

[@shanepatrick641]

True man it didn’t seem that long ago, life is flashing before my eyes 😢

[@tylerfreal6472]

5:30 damn niko could you ask for drugs any more aggressively

[@PolonezCaroAE86]

I think this want meant for buying drugs when already stoned or in meth hunger

[@Baratako0]

@@PolonezCaroAE86 It's just when Niko is angry in general. There are usually two sets of dialogue niko has: Calm and Angry

[@ArbiPesek]

✨👌🏻✨ Fine beat w bowling got me vibin 👍🏻

[@Tvboy-wp2cg]

0:49 Beretta*

[@Sotebolikurac]

This has to be a series that's gonna be big one day

[@HackingIsFreedom]

@@Sotebolikurac That's the dream! 🤣😊

[@TheFunniBaconMan]

It is so odd to hear Niko talk about gaming. It's hilarious.

[@CodyShell]

"I cannot do the gaming now, Roman"

[@Thatguy55595]

I’ve already seen all of this on other videos but I love GTA 4 so much I’ll watch it again

[@Pitbull1-bx6kr]

How do you only have 8,72k subs? U deserve much more! Im addicted to your what's cut vids haha love the vids, keep it up my guy! One Day your channel will blow up ❤

[@Slawek361]

Another great channel! What a gem!

[@nonaborhan7269]

Great work! I just discovered your channel through this video, and you quickly earned my subscription. The production quality across the board is fantastic. The video feels comprehensive while also summarizing information in a really smooth fast-paced manner. As someone who adores the hunt for cut/altered content, lost media, etc. This is a really neat series. A lot of the time you have to scroll through forums to find lesser known pieces of gaming cut content, so to have it presented here is much appreciated.

[@hibernianperspective6183]

Niko's in game model not having the fingerless gloves is a bit of a Mandela effect for me as I always remembered him wearing them even though they only appear on the artwork.

[@whatever57010]

I believe the swing set is a feature and not a glitch, there was no need to have moving parts on it and the collision map is basically 2 parts that kinda look like were designed to cause crazy collisions. the only thing I believe to have been 'not intentional' is the fact that the swing sets across the map have such a variable collision effect despite being identical

[@Puppy_Puppington]

Thank you for this video man❤

[@liiltantrum]

Bruh.. I played the game for a few hours opened YT and my feed is flooded with GTA IV content. Not complaining Im glad people still talk about it.

[@Kirkw00d]

Dwayne's anti-gaming rants remind me of my dad lmao

[@MRJAYWILSON]

"Cousin, let's snort coke"

[@FreeAimDog]

rockstar has never been a fan at letting players do drugs. only thing you can do which rockstar has became comfortable with is smoking weed in gta online, im hoping in gta 6 you can pack blunts with you to smoke and it lets you have faster sprint.

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

you already had weed and smoking it in the SP with franklin.

[@Wojtek_Ch]

Please, for the love of god, shvt the fvck vp man...

[@channe3049]

The cut dialogues and voice lines of drug dealers were eventually reused in GTA Chinatown Wars.

[@goofy69220]

I don't think the silenced pistol in ‏‪0:52‬‏ is glock tho Looks more like a m9

[@dan_loeb]

or a Taurus pt92. the slide serrations are closer to the wider style used on those. and rockstar has used the Taurus pt92 instead of the m9/92fs in the two modern day set titles it's launched since. gta v and max payne 3.

[@HackingIsFreedom]

@goofy69220 It does, yeah but it is in fact a glock

[@southernbrain691]

​@@HackingIsFreedomyou sure?

[@dan_loeb]

@@HackingIsFreedom are they just using the existing glock model and textures with a small bit of this texture sheet for the suppressor? because the weapon in the texture sheet shown is pretty clearly a pt92/92fs pistol.

[@HackingIsFreedom]

​@dan_loeb Yeah, it's the same texture from the Glock used in game but just with a silencer added to the texture.

[@bajenbilly]

12:28 ''I call this baby... Saul :)''

[@abulomania]

In the first GTA IV trailer, we can see the interior of the Grand Central Station, but sadly it was cut.

[@sausagefruit7690]

One oddity I have found a few years ago: When you see a pistol on the ground (from a cop), press 'E' to pick it up, instead of walking above it and you receive full ammunation for the pistol.

[@Joshcool124]

Hearing these characters talking about gaming is so funny cause none of them give off the vibe that they play any games 💀

[@user-ywh1y]

The Noose Boxville was used in GTA Chinatown wars as opposed to the enforcer

[@chasegrimmstone8647]

14:55 Lore accurate Rockstar Games

[@TordaiJenci-x7g]

the swing of death the nostalgia memories

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

18:38 those dummy objects i would guess are used to preload or store texture data before it's needed, it's a common tactic older games did.

[@andreibaciu7518]

Brucie ranting about Vidya is my spirit animal

[@vibesbot6690]

HE IS COOKING

[@Chad_Wick]

my first real live for modding was seeing videos of sa. the old computers i had couldn't even play that lol

[@TordaiJenci-x7g]

there was supposed to be a cut countryside called the Carraways its mentioned a few times in game up in north alderney it was based on the Hamptons

[@party4lifedude]

It's interesting the way he laughs while he says "I want to stay in the real world for the time being" like as if the voice actor found that line funny. It is funny for a video game character to say that.

[@Supercon57]

23:22 Niko was heavily designed based on the antagonist of 'Behind Enemy Lines' The character in that movie wore fingerless gloves, unfortunately that actor declined to voice act the part of Niko

[@alejandromorazan3420]

There was an option with mod tools to remove the NPC reactions of weapons so you can shoot any weapons and no NPC reacts, thats also proves that silencers were going to return. Weirdly enough in TBOGT the P90 is silenced but they didnt add the silent option

[@Noah-m7z]

Good video keep grinding bro

[@JASTERCMIX]

5:50 the drug dealer voice lines are used in game and can be heard in apartment complexes in northern algonquin, I think the one where Dwayne lived. I was doing vigilante missions earlier today and had to go in there and the NPC addicts and dealers have those lines

[@party4lifedude]

That soft plop sound at 25:39 when he hits the ground is hilarious to me.

[@MesouseUsagi]

That truck could be a sort of prototype version of the Securicar, or what we now know as the Stockade, albeit with a much lower engine bay

[@chriswakefield9538]

Really good video, man.

[@gabbydanigab]

In the oddities section, when you discuss areas where you can glitch through the map, there's one that wasn't mentioned that i know of. Maybe it wasn't mentioned because of how well known it is, but in the hospital which has an interior, you can glitch into one of the lockers by punching the one thats just slightly open, this allows you to then fall through the map and when you pop back up you enter a glitched version of the hospital where all the people are invisible

[@JangoF12b]

at 0:49, that's a cut Berretta and by the looks of it it could potentially be un-suppressed and have a suppressor. Would've been cool to see the Berretta in IV but we got it in V instead, so it's a fair trade.

[@Spendingryan]

Wonder if the cut gaming activity would involve playing a game called race'n'chase

[@spinneryourdinner]

I didn’t play much GTA IV. That can’t be said for GTA V. I find all the cut content that eventually made it to V very interesting

[@ichbinverloren31]

nice video man

[@olzhas1one755]

23:41 Oh, these modelling errors are plentiful throughout GTA 4. I have found many oversized doors, a hole in the ground in Alderney, all sorts of screwed textures. Real messy stuff all around that you never notice.

[@SunsetAssassin]

15:59 Isn't this sound used for the arm wrestling minigame in The Lost and Damned? I'm certain you can hear this whenever you go to any of the arm wrestling locations around the map.

[@yunglevistain]

i hate to be this guy, but 0:48 that isn't a glock, that seems to suggest that the glock was originally going to be a Beretta M9 or Taurus PT92 (as seen in GTA 5)

[@EthanMorissaint]

fun fact doing the swing set glitch front first in singleplayer is possible it is just very hard to do so that is why I recommend using the coquette either that or the comet those vehicles have had the best performance when I was doing the swing set glitch😊

[@Insanabiliter_In_Linea]

My guess is that texture at 1:05 was used to test normal mapped decals or possibly sprites, my money would be on decals though. It really looks like those are two different texture maps for the same asset and making a simple but high depth normal map would make it easier to tell if it's rendering properly, and the alpha mask wouldn't really make sense for a map texture or something for a model. I could be wrong though.

[@paraphax]

13:49 “ Thanks for pinging me - LOL.”

[@Xegethra]

I remember one screenshot where Niko was climbing a utility pole some time before the game came out.

[@dappermasquerade4299]

No Johns, Brucie, no Johns man.

[@justintoribio9529]

The ping is funny and the gaming thing was fire

[@MvsG18]

25:25 i discovered this glitch on my own in my ps3 like 10 years ago and i remember telling everyone but they didnt believe me at all, glad to see i wasnt the only one. I was just playing making weird movies in my head until i landed there 😂

[@GehennaQuetzalcoatl]

15:58 This was used in the Lost and Damned when you do the arm wrestling mini game.

[@elijahescobar97]

I wish they kept the gaming activities. I would love to see Niko rage quit after losing a match while yelling “F*CK THIS!!” and “MOTHERF*CKER!!!” 😭😂

[@GlitchyKittenCrew]

4:09 I'm pretty sure that was a early version of the SWAT van used in the game now. I could be wrong but it seems to make sense to me they would do something like that

[@mikedawolf95]

22:55 the binco logo still appears on Vans and Box Trucks around the city

[@Sebastian-hc8rj]

4:11 i dont think thats a Boxville Police Car i think a Firetruck is standing behind a Normal Boxville giving the Illusion that the Van has Sirens they are also slightly off Centre so that makes me Think its a Firetruck behind it too.

[@nottodaydevilshindowraithe501]

That's not a Glock, that's an M9, or potentially Taurus. I should probably state this is for the missing texture, I don't know if the M9 or Taurus is in the game, so I can see why it could've been confused. Maybe making it a cut weapon that returned in GTA V.

[@MuscleCarLover]

Ping! is a horrible idea for a fast food restaurant. Very fitting for GTA as a result Also, I also made that mistake on First Date the first time I it, going into the mini golf course and being totally dumbfounded

[@gangsterbroccoli]

Seeing the original map ideas was so cool, how did you even find that

[@Rrodfer]

great vid! new sub

[@TheBoxyBear]

Looks like I got some new stream sound effects from that gaming activity.