When Are Free Testosterone Levels Too High?

Dr Jordan Grant and Gil T answer the question: When are (free) testosterone levels too high?
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[@malekmalek9064]

Good video guys

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Always like your comments, good friend!

[@steel1911]

Going on 11 months now TRT. Learned so much since starting and feel like I’m really dialed in last few months. My total T looks high 1000-1400 but SHBG is 50ish so free is only 25ish. I really didn’t feel good until I hit this point not worried at all feel the best I’ve felt for years no negative side affects here. I creep up to around 1900-2000 mark I get water retention, headaches and acne. Back back down and go with the dose that works best no sides.

[@blackmarketarmy]

What units is your free t in? And what's the reference range on your blood work? my blood work is clearly listed differently so I'm trying to figure out how to convert it to what they are talking about

[@steveazusa]

Yeah when i got up to 1900ng/dl my pulse rate was irregular when i would lay down it felt weird had to cut back

[@WJHandyDad]

I agree that there is definitely a limit above which most guys are going to start having bad symptoms and I agree with Gil T that it's ironic that things like insulin are readily available even though potentially deadly whereas things like T are so heavily regulated

[@billdriscoll2795]

Just started transdermal testosterone 6 weeks ago. Went from sub 300 to 1300 . Starting to feel better in several areas. My primary care physician says those levels are too high for my age. I’m 63 . What do you think.

[@paulanderson5409]

steven, can u do a video discussing options on how to safely increase dosage of weekly TRT ammount if T level was a little low on the “trough day” bloodwork

[@hurlentropy6866]

Just got my blood work results. I'm 31 years old....not on TRT. Total T: 778 ng/dl Free T: 154.8 pg/ml (40-155 pg/ml) I'm very calm at these levels. I do take full spectrum cbd every night. Love it....helps me sleep like a baby. I can pack on mass quite fast.....still can't grow a beard though.

[@jimmynava5644]

Have you tried minoxidil/dermarolling for your beard growth?

[@hurlentropy6866]

@@jimmynava5644 Yes, it didn't do much

[@jimmynava5644]

@hurlentropy6866 damn. I've been using it for 8 months and have seen a small difference (from nothing) but nowhere near where I wanna be. I thought it was bc of low T but I'm within normal range too. Guess it's just genetics 🤷‍♂️

[@hurlentropy6866]

@@jimmynava5644 Probably. Sensitivity to testosterone is very important. I can't grow bears bc my hair follicles have weak sensitivity. My muscles have strong sensitivity I packed on 40 lbs in 3 months one time and a lot of the fat converted to lean mass within 6 to 8 months. I still maintained a six pack. The men on my Dad's side were very muscular....wrestlers, lumberjacks, etc. I don't really care that much though. I get annoyed when I get compliments about my body. I care more about the process and the work or health aspect than looking good.

[@superiorsounds1637]

Sleep quality definitely plunges on higher doses…

[@HoltistheGOAT]

In the beginning. Once your body gets acclimated to it, it's a thing of the past

[@chaystafari3228]

I like to go 200mg/week for 2 months then 400mg/ week for 3 months and keep rotating . And 2iu HGH year round . Up it to 3iu on my 400test months .

[@pjfields2382]

I had my protocol changed to 100mg a week My total test level is 975.... My free test which the range says 46.0 thru 224....mine is 307.6 pg/ml My Bio available is high also at 659.3....should I lower my dosage...that free and bio seem way high and I am only on 100mg per week...any info appreciated...also my shbg is 10.0 nmol/l

[@gregnettles3677]

Hey guy I just started pellet therapy when I went in my total testosterone was 68 after my first 6 weeks check up.my total testosterone is 1100 and my free is 300.00 pg/ml is this to high I’m 52 years old and I don’t work out

[@jeffbrund]

I’m weird….I get only 80 (.4) of TRT a week which is really low compared to most people and my total is 702. Before TRT my total was 89 😮. Dr says my free is too high at 179.5 (range is 35.0-155.0 pg/ml) He wants to drop my dose from 80 to 75. Anyone out there ever had their dose lowered for this and did it work? I know this is an older post but thought I’d ask anyway.

[@brianpulley8652]

Got my free testosterone test back it said I was 16.1 NG/DL and total was 454...lab said my free test was high....smh I've felt like 💩 for the past 4 years and I'm 51.

[@DeRock401]

My levels after being on trt is 679ng/dl total and 199 pg/ml and my dr said it’s too high lol. He only has me on 80mg a week! Like I wish more doctors would treat the patient and not the number

[@infinow]

Can someone tell what is ideal free T for 25 year old healthy male. And overall also.

[@Waltonslots]

Had gyno gland removal 10 weeks ago. The surgeon left a little bit of gland behind for blood supply. I am back on hrt 40 mg eod. My nipples are enflamed. Will this go away? If so how long . Ige already been on hrt now for 7 weeks. So when will things settle down. Makes we wanna jump on an ai

[@GunsAndFishingU.S.A.]

What is a good number for free testosterone pg/ml ?

[@mikemumper8564]

I got a test from lab Corp a week ago. My Free t was 83.1 pg/ml. Range says 43-190 pg/ml. Converted to NG/dl that would be 8.3 . Which is wayyyy lower than what they are recommending right 25-50 am i understanding this right. Why would lab corp range be so far off so basically there high end would be extremely low based off what they are recommending….

[@APR702]

I’m pretty sure they mean The 25-50 is in ng/dl . As in yours is at 8.3ng/dl. But going over 30ng/dL at your trough (when your being tested) isn’t necessary cause too high can cause symptoms too

[@Kurio71]

1:53 45? Which unit?

[@matthewkirkendall9998]

Are these numbers anything to be concerned of: Total T- 1047 Free T- 175.8 Estradiol- 41 Hematocrit- 51.3

[@79boricuarage]

Depends how you feel. Hematocrit is creeping up a bit.

[@ModifiedAmerican]

How high of total testosterone is to high when trying to bring up free testosterone levels.

[@spurs5677]

This is an answer I want to look forward to

[@Eddie-mx8vf]

My Free has come back as 266.87 pg/ml where range should be 19.1 to 89pg/ml for my age. Seems way too high any advice.

[@NickSayMuscle]

It won't be too high . Is around 26ng dl . Which is over slightly over 25 . Most ppl on TRT is advised to achieve min 25

[@VoIPPortland]

Mine is 70 Free T. Bummer. Done everything to ramp in up naturally. 378 otherwise. Doing lots of compound exercises, squats, eating right. 60 years old. Lost 75 lbs in two years.

[@reb03lb7]

That’s 7 - in relation to the numbers being used here

[@richfit9789]

I just got my blood work back. Says my total testosterone is 5377h and 1726 free testosterone?! Is this accurate?! 😬

[@spurs5677]

Fuck yeah yolo

[@robsolo4024]

My free test is 382 pg/ml And my total testosterone is 1171 my doctor wants me to lower it but I still do not have any sex drive whatsoever and I am constantly tired all the time I need help

[@johnmoore1495]

How well do you sleep? Have you been tested for sleep apnea? It is way underdiagnosed, even if you’re young and thin.

[@robsolo4024]

@@johnmoore1495 Actually yes I think I do have a sleep apnea

[@vapeking466]

My free test is 220 pg/ml and my total test is 789. I do have sleep apnea. My body is now producing too many red blood cells so we are lowering my testosterone dose. I also have low sex drive but I am 49 so I suspect that's somewhat normal. As far as being tired all the time had that since before trt never has went away.

[@maj_mobilidade]

hello, how do i control my DHT level? if my testosterone level is 900 I already have a lot of acne.

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

I would not recommend blocking DHT. Why don't you treat the acne? Like with local or systemic antibiotics, or topical tretinoin, adapalene, or systemic isotretinoin?

[@LoveFactorySweatShop]

Try to raise your SHBG with keto, since it has a higher binding affinity with dht.

[@v4_ash273]

Ok so I’ve been lowering my dose I’m on 100 mg a week . And my test is still high I’m in uk so we measure it different it’s 36 with 30 being top of range so I’m guessing it’s 1,300 me estrogen is 196. Top of the range 150 in uk , And my free test is double at 1.25 nmol. And it says should be between 0.4 and 0.6 . I’m shgb is also low at 10 . And I have never felt great . Do I keep lowering il try 75mg but 0.15 twice a week in a insulin ??

[@lip91688]

i’m in same boat. any luck ?

[@whoknew7864]

Just started trt. My level was super low 232 overall and 59 free test.44 years old just took my 4th shot and doc pulled blood .test level went to 612 but free test is 162 which is super high on the scale range..Not sure if to continue?

[@chewybacchus5918]

Do feel good? Just keep an eye on your blood pressure

[@whoknew7864]

Yea i Feel good blood pressure is good so far..

[@chewybacchus5918]

@@whoknew7864 awesome. Well you could drop a bit and find a sweet spot. Depends what your goals are

[@marcusaurelius5576]

Just received results. 1035 total T 225 free T. Taking 160 weekly Cypionate broken up to two shots twice a week. Is that free T something to worry about?

[@Brian_Life]

No. I have 850 T and 275 free T on 160mg/week. SHBG is only 7. My doc said don't worry, don't chase SHBG numbers. Lipids and other numbers for me are great, except iron/ferritin I just discovered are low so I will work on that. Focus on how you feel.

[@GunsAndFishingU.S.A.]

​@@Brian_Lifehow is your free tests tested? Pg/ml ?

[@DawgFL]

Does he mean 25-50 ng/dl for free t? Can you guys help me convert 823 pmol/l free test into ng/dl? It's what we use in canada but I cannot find how to convert it. I used 3 different calculators online and they all gave me different results. Thank you!

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Use this convertor, I use it too. hcp.nebido.com/hcp/tools/testosterone-unit-conversion

[@DawgFL]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization hi! Ive seen this one unfortunately it does not convert from pmol/l :(

[@pedrolibra6069]

I know alot of guys who keep it at 1200 to 1500 total T. Is that relative to 3000 total t side effects? Thanks

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[@TheRabbit91476]

The answer below is the same answer to every question

[@rickgoulding2295]

Testosterone 189 nmol/L Free Testosterone 6621 pmol/L SHBG 31 nmol/L Oestradiol 281 pmol/L Thoughts?

[@RJP18]

189 nmol/L is 5446.7 ng/dL are you sure those are right units?

[@panchotheplug295]

Just got my blood work my free t is at 494.6 H

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Pancho The Plug Thank you for sharing!

[@panchotheplug295]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization no prob. My reg T was 1059 H and free 496.6 H. But I still feel tired because I guess cuz I have sleep apnea

[@hasanagic96]

What if my testosterone levels is 1300 ng/dl, naturally at 27 yo. I feel like complete shit. I thought i needed trt for feeling so low n anxious n mood swingy. Then i test n get this result. Wtf. Is this healthy ot normal for someone that doesn't do trt?

[@yassingurhan6204]

Most of it is bounded up bro. You need at least 2% of your total testosterone manifesting itself in free test. You’d most likely need 26ng/dl of free test to feel amazing. Even less actually so get that tested as well. Eat foods high in magnesium(quinoa), zinc(oysters canned in water, never eat more than 70-80 grams daily). Eat an ounce of beef liver with the oyster and have some beef on the side so protein aids the absorption of zinc which is a mineral that could potentially almost quadruple your T levels if consumed regularly for months.

[@unknown-vo3di]

My total t is between 1000 and 1300 depending on when i test. I feel great all the time. I do get bad nights of sleep here and there. But i always have been a worryer and i sometimes worry and lose sleep at night however i dont believe its from testosterone.

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

@unknown-vo3di Thank you for sharing! 1000-1300 nd/dl is still high normal, don't you agree?

[@unknown-vo3di]

​@TRTandHormoneOptimization high normal? Yes I think it is high normal most labs don't want u above 1000

[@planetphatness]

I just got tested and I'm at 1333, I feel great/normal though.

[@unknown-vo3di]

@@planetphatness I bumped my dose up to put me in that range also I haven't tested again but feel good

[@planetphatness]

@@unknown-vo3di yea free T and ESTRADIOL is elevated too (in the high zone) but as far as I feel, I feel like I should, no side effects either. I'll see what the doc says during my next visit. I'm currently taking 400mg, 350 felt too low. Maybe 375 is the sweet spot.

[@chadgriffith5819]

My total is 1500 and free 500 backing down from 800 a month. Do t feel well.

[@steveazusa]

Mine was 1900ng/dl my pulse rate was irregular when i would lay down felt weird i would feel it in my chest no pain but my pulse would slow down then go to normal then slow down only when i would lay down . Working out doing cardio etc I was normal felt great Idk i cut back my injections

[@ahmedmiad82]

​@steveazusa bro what did you do to get that 1900 ng/dl? That's crazy high Respect

[@Waltonslots]

Do i have to take hcg? I had a vasectomy so i dont care about sperm productuon

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[@thephoenixcycle8854]

My Free Testosterone was just measured at 243.. my doctor wants to have a chat. He better not take me off trt

[@danzdog]

he wont, but probably reduce dosage, and micro dose

[@danjones9489]

Go to a endocrinologist

[@blackmarketarmy]

Jordan said optimal free t for most guys is 25-50, what units is that in? I'm trying to convert because I just had my first blood test and im 266 pg/ml

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[@blackmarketarmy]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization thank you, I'll take a look. Just wondering real quick if you knew what units he was talking about?

[@jezu-ufam-tobie]

266 pg/ml equals to 26.6 ng/dl..so you are in the 25-50 range. My free was last week 566 so 56 ng/dl taking 180ml test/week..kind of high for such low amount of testo..feeling great but little dizzy, must be blood pressure

[@blackmarketarmy]

@@jezu-ufam-tobie thank you. How did you get it so high? And what's your total t?

[@mikemumper8564]

Just got my levels checked. Total T -430.NG/dl-- range(264-916) Free T- 83.1.pg/ml range (42.3-190). Converted Free T is 8.31NG/DL. This is wayyy lower than what they are recommending (25-50). However the test is showing within normal range. How come they are saying range should be 25-50 NG/DL when mine is 8 and within normal range???? Am i understanding this right?

[@lovelooslivideos]

My free T was 299 pg/ml is that extremely high?

[@himboslice_]

mine was 370 at trough on only 160mg a week lol apparently, marek health wants patients to be between 200-300.

[@ludobmw540i]

@@himboslice_ Thanks for sharing, mine is 301 with 180mg per week (total 950)

[@ShallowedOutGolf]

On 100mg/week my free T is 310 pg/ml. I’m hyper responding to test and my gym gains are awesome! Total is about 800-1000 ng/dl. E2 at 33. I’m more worried about LH and neurosteroids: might need hCG at some point.

[@baronwolfgang9368]

My PCP keeps lowering my dosage because my RBC, hemoglobin and hematocrit are at the top of labcorps range. My new dosage for the last 3 months is 100 mg per week and I definitely noticed a difference coming from 120 mg per week. No more morning wood and energy is down a bit. My wife even asked me about my lack of sexual interest yesterday. Do you have any suggestions? Or am I just screwed?

[@BrandoTheMando87]

Find a new PCP...

[@joerapo]

How frequently are you doing injections?

[@baronwolfgang9368]

@@joerapo I inject every other day. Sub Q.

[@joerapo]

@@baronwolfgang9368 Okay I was gonna say if you're doing weekly shots 100mg certainly isn't enough. I'm having good results with 100, but I'm doing daily sub q.

[@TheRabbit91476]

If you hematocrit is above normal. It can be a problem. I can understand where your doctor is coming from. You can always donate blood if 100mg a week doesn’t make you feel normal.

[@lpdc5911]

Gil always seems angry 😂

[@chainsong9546]

he lost a bet and had to wear that stupid fucking hat

[@blackmarketarmy]

@@chainsong9546 what was the bet?

[@boxerboss5284]

Mine is 24.2 and my doctor wants me at 18-21 free T

[@terminator9099]

total test over 1500ng/dL and free test is exactly 850ng/dL at only 125mg test C, is it normal ?

[@andjelkovicjasmin2954]

Stop taking testosterone. Your total testosterone level is good and high and above average, but your free testosterone is low, you don't have 850 ng/dl of free testosterone, your free testosterone level is 8.5 ng/dl, that's extremely low. Your free testosterone level must be at least 30 ng/dl. The NATURALLY highest possible free testosterone level that we men can achieve is I think 50 NG/DL.

[@terminator9099]

@@andjelkovicjasmin2954 No there are no mistakes on my datas, I have 8.5ng/mL, which is 850ng/dL. I never said I was natural. I am on TRT at 125mg test C didnt you read.

[@vedranbacic4337]

I am 35. My total T is 480 nmol and my free T is 2.85 nmol which converts into 82 ng dl. I think its to high cause my libido and sustaining erections are not good to say the least. But other then that energy and muscle mass and endurance are high. I think free t is to high. I am not on trt.

[@vedranbacic4337]

I am lean, skinny guy with bigger muscle to bone ratio.

[@vedranbacic4337]

Ldl kolesterol is high.. total colesterol is on the boarder line..

[@xx1francisxx]

My total is 435ng/dl but my free T is 196pg/ml

[@Kurio71]

WOW, what SHBG?

[@aamit6211]

my total is 542 free is 18 pg/ml, (yes no kidding), shbg 26. I’m super super worried about walking this planet with such low free T as a male.

[@abztraktt6403]

FREE TEST OVER 40?! 100?!?! I'm at 26 and thought it hit the top level

[@masoncedwards]

This is what I’m thinking. Mine is at 38 right now and considered ‘too high’ at 20 years old. Reading some of these comments have me concerned…

[@LuLu_World]

damn u guys wear tight shirts 😂

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[@Dahblackrussian]

Insecure

[@andjelkovicjasmin2954]

I think a good free testosterone level is 30 to 40 ng/dl, I think a free testosterone level higher than that is harmful.

[@dakotahsteier5481]

mines 57.. yikes

[@LetsPlayBrick]

@@dakotahsteier5481 Mine 46 and I just panicked cause my left nip is kinda sore, and my idiot doctors probably won't help prescribe me an AI. How worried should I be? I've already adjusted dosage.

[@ARI-wc6xd]

Andjelkovic Jasmin, I'm not on TRT, my total T is 450 and free T is 53.6 Max normal is said to be 23

[@whoknew7864]

Just started trt. My level was super low 232 overall and 59 free test.44 years old just took my 4th shot and doc pulled blood .test level went to 612 but free test is 162 which is super high on the scale range..Not sure if to continue?

[@vedranbacic4337]

Just to mention I dont have any exercise routine besides zone 1 training. Lots of walks and hiking

[@aaronoconnor8862]

Started t IM in December 2022 160mg broken into 80mg 2x week Free t was 58 now it’s 621!!! Total t was 308 now it’s 1927 Hmmmmm cholesterol down Normal - always normal Bp 120/80 Kidney liver normal Hemoglobin 16.5 Hematocrit 52 Watching ^ Feel very good Sex drive high I also take cialis 5mg daily Speaking w/ docs next week

[@DeRock401]

Are you getting your trough levels? Like the day before your next dose? That does seem really high