Where Are My White On White Crimes?! | Castle Super Beast 246 Clips

[@thelegalsystem]

Woolie: slight change of tone Pat: "What fresh hell is this"

[@ConsueloHigdon]

That’s how you know they are best friends

[@armchairmaster]

"Pat." "You used my government name, what the fuck is happening."

[@jorgamund07]

@@armchairmasterWoolie saying Pat's name is like your mom using your full name at you.

[@KaroSword]

no because "are you aware?" is exactly how bullshit starts coming out of someones mouth lmaooo

[@UltimateStarky]

Woolie: Hey Pat... Pat: What sort of psychological torment are you going to inflict on me now?

[@Mutraex923]

Who'da thunk that a lot of black and Hispanic people would live in a place that's literally right by the carribean?

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

Pretty sure my hispanic co workers that moved their listed the same reason as my jamaiacan co worker. (They hate all this damn snow and cold weather that place is like home and it's easy to avoid people you don't want to interact with).

[@jaysteelsun]

WHAT?! 🤯

[@Egalia_1]

Woolie has the ability to activate Pat’s bit sense with a single word

[@toddvogel8887]

You don't understand, those black people in the trailer weren't just standing there, they were standing there... Menacingly!

[@Kango234]

I can't believe that SpongeBob bit from over 20 years ago is still funny to me.

[@toddvogel8887]

@@Kango234 Old SpongeBob is just too quoteable.

[@qnybucks]

ゴゴゴゴ

[@JCdental]

Melanincingly

[@Tsunamidusher]

Man, the first five and a half minutes of this were gold XD

[@doobeedogooder9342]

Being a Floridaian, and hearing Woolie describe Florida men, and a "Florida Event" is the best thing I've ever heard

[@TheRogueWolf]

We need a chart to measure Florida Events. "People, we are at METHCON 1!"

[@birdoven5754]

"Sir, this is a Florida-level threat"

[@castform57]

There needs to be a proper FBC just for florida, so they can deal with and record the happening florida events.

[@1upclock]

Florida (derogatory)

[@KaizarNike]

A florida event: Something the SCP Foundation is completely unable to deal with, they are forced to rely on the US justice system

[@ispaceghost]

Woolie: I'm out of my head when you're not around. Pat: SHUT UP!

[@TheNobleShade]

He's out of touch?

[@AFortunateJinx]

​@@TheNobleShade He's out of time!

[@Zexx4]

People upset by this is going to be REALLY UPSET when they find out about San Andreas

[@DriscolDevil]

I was thinking the same thing. If SA came out now, they would be throwing such a massive fit about how "woke" it is.

[@derpstick5467]

I’m just wondering if Pat is gonna like gta 6 or think it’ll be mid, probably the latter because of his takes on past R* games.

[@DriscolDevil]

@@derpstick5467 he doesn't seem to be a fan of the Rockstar stuff. I like it, but it does get annoying and I hate how much of their games feels like a grind. Then I try to play saints row again and I remember why I appreciate gta.

[@nahuel3433]

Or a third of GTA5

[@derpstick5467]

@DriscolDevil just finished watching the clip and yeah Pat once again brings up how garbage the movement feels, I can see where he’s coming from and also the lack of freedom you get in the missions which will probably happen in gta 6 so yeah odds are he’ll probably stream it once and never play it again because it’ll probably have all the things he hates about modern R* games and i feel like he’s painting a bad picture of the modern stuff to Woolie, though I doubt Woolie cares, if he ever gets around to playing RDR2 or whatever, he might agree but maybe he will have a different take on them.

[@LiggyMustard]

I read a comment on another video that said "Racism is Woolie's catnip" That is all, thank you for your time

[@garristhemont1586]

That's my favorite comment I've seen on a CSB video it's such a fitting metaphor

[@Rikuo86]

Florida Man but it uses the Majima Everywhere System.

[@donniebell7887]

Sounds horrifying

[@iller3]

@@donniebell7887 ...and then people wonder why 'Murica has more guns than it has people...

[@Kaarl_Mills]

Now that LaD is going to the US it can happen for real "Gotcha now Kiryu-Chan!" *METHHEAD MAJIMA* *PATRIARCH OF THE TRAILER PARK CLAN*

[@kricku]

The Florida Man Everywhere System

[@breaksystembse]

@@kricku That's terrifying

[@kahlt_]

The funniest thing about GTA's weird weighty movement bullshit is that they legitimately just make it play normally when you're in first person. Movement becomes properly omnidirectional and crisp and you don't even have to mash to sprint, just hold the button. They legitimately just do it properly but ONLY WHEN YOU'RE FIRST PERSON WHICH IS INSANE.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

It's so fucking frustrating.

[@CaptainDemo779]

My favorite parts about the “It’s all so tiresome” tweet: 1) The pictures are all of black folks having a good time, even the gangsters and the twerking lady 2) THERE’S A BUNCH OF WHITE PEOPLE IN THAT BEACH SHOT 3) The last image in the bottom right corner of the collage is just a social worker talking to the Latina protagonist. She looks harmless. The opposite of threatening. It must be hard living in a world as a person who thinks anything that isn’t white, straight, and male is a threat to you.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

It's fascism at work, the very existence of non white people is an existential threat to them

[@FeenieVonKarma]

those are the people calling others snowflakes too, still can't get over that irony lol

[@yellow242]

Shit like the marvels, barbie and snow white are easy examples as too why some people feel that way. Ain't right, but it's easy to see why.

[@GabeSweetMan]

Any ideologically motivated filter wraps back around to being self parody when turned up to 11. In the same way a tiny minority of race obsessed weirdos flipped out over the lack of black/brown people in Kingdom Come Deliverance, a historical northern European setting that would absolutely be as pasty as Pat's backside, complaining about the inclusion of black people in what might be the MOST diverse location in the most ethnically mixed country in the world is so completely detached from reality it just makes me laugh at the absurdity. Clowns, all of them.

[@r15835]

​@@yellow242bro, you feel your social well-being is threatened by Barbies, Snow White, and a comic hero shows?

[@darkdestiny661]

".....Pat?..." *Sounds of Royal Guard being spammed*

[@purpleisthesneakiest]

Pat asking if Florida Man is the dingo of his ecosystem is really funny because it implies that Florida Man eats babies.

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

Not that he wouldn't though

[@arthurgomes5188]

I mean..... There was a dude a few years ago high on drugs that chewed another guy's face off.

[@Rhaethyn]

Are you implying it doesn't?

[@adams3627]

Well, yeah. He probably would.

[@gonzoGnostalgic]

Nah. That's Sacramento Man.

[@wumbojet]

Woolie is forgetting that those seemingly peaceful black people in the beach might have been commiting the most dangerous crime of all! Loitering!

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

Ah yes, loitering, Schrödingers crime. Standing is both legal and not until the officer decides what mood they're in.

[@Dabednego]

It’s funny because it’s true

[@Dabednego]

Woolie is right; the reason why we get so many “Florida Man” stories is because Florida’s press laws are extremely lenient wrt reporting information from the criminal justice system. So yeah, once the meter is full (someone gets booked for an offense) a new florida man is born

[@wumbojet]

@@Dabednego you can't forget that the average Floridian is legitimately insane

[@wardy4903]

@@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong loitering is always illegal. whether a cop feels like calling you on it at any given moment is a different story. Since even small tasks like traffic signalling take more importance. Never trick yourself into thinking stealing penny candy is legal just because nobody cared enough to call the cops.

[@pocketlint60]

I am in the ground. I am in the air. I am all: I live in the hearts of men. - Florida Man according to Woolie

[@tatoy2]

Florida Man was Shivers all along

[@chimeratheo1855]

I AM ALL OF ME

[@leithaziz2716]

All Hail Shadow?

[@Akaritomi]

I AM THOU AND THOU ART I... - Florida Man 2023

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

I am one, And I am all, And I am also _you._

[@drhaxx7425]

Hispanics in Florida? Next you'll tell me that there may be Italians in New York

[@AuspexAO]

Fugitaboutit!

[@MidgarMerc]

Nazis don't mind Italians cause they can just squint and pretend they're white

[@johnrivers3813]

Don't even dare imply there's Chinese in San Fransisco

[@malikoniousjoe]

What the fuck are you buncha racists on about? There are no foreigners here, only my god blessed fellow Americans, long may they prosper! I’d hate to even consider that someone within our glorious nation has familial heritage outside of our centuries old country. The least American thing you can be is non American after all. Goddamn I love my truck and gun and my fellow Americans and our flag which has three distinct colors on it. I’m sure my American-American neighbors and our other American-American neighbors can all agree those colors are quite appeallingly arranged on that wonderful, god blessed flag.

[@BigFingerRo]

I suspect the people who have trouble with those demographics have less of an issue with italians and more with the people who make babkas and eat kosher. That's been their big one for some time now, after all.

[@leithaziz2716]

14:00 I appreciate the Sleeping Dogs compliment. That game was fantastic.

[@briochepanda]

Wei Shen MF.

[@DemonicDevilDiran]

I try and sell my friends on it every now and again, alas to no avail. Wonder if the hype-ass zombies from Streets of L.A. will do it for them.

[@michaelpalacios8951]

Where's my shoplifting from high end boutiques minigame? My immersion will be destroyed if I can't fill out the forms for a fraudulent 501.3c or call in a fake domestic abuse report on my neighbor that won't remove the pink flamingos from his lawn.

[@Zangelin]

All the reasons why Pat hates modern GTA is also the same reasons he loves Virtua Fighter

[@krodmandoon3479]

Only one playable black person in it?

[@SciontheDark]

​@@krodmandoon3479well, only one that mattered. Franklin felt like a third wheel in a game with 2 too many playable characters.

[@DriscolDevil]

@@SciontheDark I could not disagree more. Franklin was basically the main protagonist, even down to the ending. I have a ton of issues with gta 5, but pretending Franklin was a third wheel makes me question if you even played the game. If anything, Trevor feels way more out of place, most of his story is disconnected from the other two characters.

[@TheShockVox]

@@SciontheDarksuper disagree. Felt like Franklin was the main character, and Michael as well. Felt like Trevor was the one who shouldn’t have been playable and more of an NPC antagonist.

[@ItsDigidyDan]

@@DriscolDevil how did Franklin contribute to the story beyond being Michael's sidekick?

[@ShiningSpecks]

As a former Floridian, you can escape Florida but the spirit of Florida Man will forever stay in your soul.

[@Vaksharules1999]

You can take the man out of Florida, but you can't take the Florida out of the Florida Man.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

Pat simultaneously has Crazy Talk hanging around and can detect the most minute shift in Woolie's tone in .2 seconds. What the hell.

[@violetshadowstone5250]

What did crazy talk even detect? That it was wrong?

[@sanninjiraiya]

Take mass wealth inequality, a large proportion of the population living with decent weather (minus the humidity) but with little to do, massive influxes of people from a variety of backgrounds, chronically underfunded social services, a weirdly resilient/risk taking centered culture (living with huge annual hurricanes does a lot to ones outlook), and a political culture skewed into overdrive: and you have the ingredients to get Florida type shenanigans. It's a perfect GTA setting.

[@shadowrobot7708]

I think the best way to describe it is that they don't want you to cancel any animations. So if you start to take a step but you need to move backwards becomes you were about to walk off a cliff. Rock-star controls will make you walk off that cliff but most other games would let you change directions.

[@RedStar_N7]

I'm very surprised Pat seemed to have no complaints about that with the RE4 Remake. Original Leon could start and stop his run on a dime and could even do full 90 degree turns by snapping his aim to either direction. Remake Leon is heavy. All his movements carry so much momentum that sudden turns will trigger a short sliding animation where his legs bend to shift his weight away and the delay is just long enough that an enemy can hit you during that. I was so hoping Woolie would catch him on that and call him out

[@malikoniousjoe]

@@RedStar_N7I don’t think you realize that context changes when heavy controls and control locking up adds to rather than detracts from game feel. In a survival horror game, sluggish controls can add gravity and tension, like a Silent Hill or old school tank control RE. In Mecha games, sluggish controls can emphasize the weight and size of your craft. GTA is a stupid run and gun shooter that controls like shit a lot of the time, despite seemingly having its design centered in arcade style fun which tends to rely on snappier, twitchy gameplay. Driving is great, but my character on foot feels heavier and dumber than a semi truck, and it’s not that hard to grasp why that can be a turn off to some players.

[@night1952]

@@RedStar_N7 There's a difference between a character feeling heavy to move and feeling bad and unwieldy. Leon feels responsive, GTA characters don't, and don't get me started on that jump.

[@ItsDigidyDan]

@@malikoniousjoe So basically, complaints about rockstar controls boil down to "I refuse to learn how the game works and will just complain that it's not what I'm used to" Purposeful weight in characters movements is not the same as bad controls

[@ItsDigidyDan]

@@night1952 I really don't understand the problems people have with rockstar games nowadays. The controls aren't broken or jank, you just don't want to learn how the game is played and instead, expect the game to adhere to you. A.K.A, a bad workman blaming his tools

[@rasendori20]

Oh no the b-b-b-blacks are in Florida!!!!

[@CompagnonDeMisere25]

Florida has gone WOKE!!!

[@Vaksharules1999]

The Green's UV powers will destroy us all!

[@themightymander_extra]

9:03 makes sense that any joke that is a song reference would go over the head of someone who *just* discovered Spotify

[@artdog0100]

Pat had iTunes, Limewire, and Napster as a kid. Pat chose to not give a damn about music.

[@hibiki8473]

Simce florida man was asked again. The real reason behind florida man is that pretty much every arreast is released to the public thats why there is all the Florida man articles

[@TheTolnoc]

Florida Man is an involuntary Devil Trigger. It is KH 2 Rage Form.

[@lordentropy460]

4:30 - 4:50 I love how when Pat starts really losing it with laughter his current mic just cuts him off above a certain pitch. Iconic.

[@XShrike0]

Vice City's greatest strength was it's god tier soundtrack. No matter what station the radio was on, it was something good.

[@L0st_Sensei]

I think the best part of gta being in florida, is we can see all kinds of bugs and glitches and wouldnt know the difference because "yep, thats florida"

[@SaberRexZealot]

GTA players complaining about black people in their game is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. The games have had black protagonists since San Andreas. Absolute heresy.

[@MrFox-ox2ze]

They must have been spermazoids and missed how CJ made all of us sheltered white kids feel what it was like to be black. But he made it feel awesome

[@combatwomb1]

As soon as I saw all this going down on Twitter, I immediately thought “Woolie and Pat are gonna have a great bit on this.”

[@mediadetective6104]

*Black person just existing in the trailer to a game that takes place in Miami* *Synthetic Man proceeds to seethe and hide in his goblin cave screaming the word “woke”*

[@wumbojet]

I'm so excited for all new big games having trans women of color as protagonists so those pathetic manchildren can cry about "fucking pronouns" and culture war garbage and make their lives miserable

[@leithaziz2716]

Synthetic Man might be the most garbage content creator I've been exposed to in recent times when it comes to basic human standards.

[@mediadetective6104]

@@NocturneJester Exactly. I’d highly recommend the podcast EFAP’s coverage of his GoW Ragnarok stuff if you want to see how genuinely insane and shitty he is. The guy in charge edited a whole video combining his videos on GoW Ragnarok as well as his streams, and his streams are quite revealing about what he’s actually like.

[@iller3]

yeah, sounds pretty Fake to me. ...it's almost like saying this one asshat _"Represents a whole group of people"_ would be the same kind of flawed rhetoric that asshat himself would employ

[@jman2856]

@@mediadetective6104Love to break it to you but EFAP are also grifters who complain about “woke” shit all the time.

[@thedualitysystem]

I think Pat is onto something with saying that walking in GTA feels like driving a car. Since I'm pretty sure the engine that they're currently using for GTA was originally made for a racing game Midnight Club Los Angeles or something.

[@VelvetAura]

The funniest thing to me is how you can tell these outraged people have never been to a Florida beach before, or if they have it's been like the northern super rich white beaches or like the Keys or something. The ones all the snowbirds go to. Pat also has a very good point, I am white and grew up in Tampa Bay, and I can guarantee you I got waaay waaaaay whiter after having moved to the Midwest. That, and I got to see firsthand how weird it was to have barely any other races be present. I'm still not used to it and it makes me feel uncomfortable to be honest, but being in a place like this reminds me that there are plenty of white people who just aren't exposed to other races of people much, and those have to be the ones that are somehow angry about GTA6. Of course you got cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, and Detroit, but other than that it's majority Caucasian out here. Must have thought Florida was White Land like wherever they're from is. Still, the ignorance and mask off racism is baffling and hilarious at the same time

[@ButcherGod]

Well it's colored people who are triggered about GTA. Only Whites that would be upset, would be liberal women. You honestly think Conservatives give a F about GTA?! 🤣

[@Bobbytries]

Pat’s description of the Director hand slapping you for trying something creative makes me think of every not Spider-Man part of the Spider-Man games.

[@leithaziz2716]

You do need variety in the gameplay to shake things up and not get repetitive (you can see what happens in FF16's case when you don't do that). However the way they do it in the Insomniac Spider-Man games is unfortunately very intrusive. What I think they could have done is put more emphasis on Stealth and the Puzzles (no Bioshock pipe puzzles pls) and those would be enough to keep things fresh. The Arkham games usually struck this balance pretty well, untill Arkham Knight came out and had the worst pacing in the series for several reasons.

[@fluidthought42]

​@@leithaziz2716 "ALL RIGHT DARK KNIGHT, PROVE YOU'RE SMARTER THAN ME BY RIDING YOUR CAR VERY FUCKING FAST"

[@fien111]

Modern GTA movement controls feel like suggestions to a slightly-to-moderately drunk man via satellite delay.

[@TheTolnoc]

If people don't realize there's been dark complexions in the game since San Andreas, I get the feeling they don't actually play GTA.

[@MaLcH10R]

Vice city and gta 3 had black people lol.

[@ultimamage3]

The very first GTA had women as playable characters

[@ItsDigidyDan]

@@ultimamage3 outrageous

[@starwars90001]

Woolie gained too much power this stream.

[@todd8398]

Florida Men are basically JJBA characters where all the Stands have gone wrong somehow.

[@Carlos-Mora]

Stone Ocean is indistinguishable from normal Florida from an outsider perspective

[@abyssGazerTV]

5:01 Pat says that as a joke but political influencer Tim Pool literally said that he didn't like GTA 6's female protagonist because, and I quote, "Women are physically incapable of harming men."

[@supremacistdawn]

Tim is sad and angry because unlike Pat, he hasn't accepted and come to terms with his baldness

[@SilencedBTM]

Somehow Woolie and his love of racism doesn't seem to understand that being pissed off at black people for just existing somewhere is the most Florida thing of all.

[@TheRogueWolf]

Complaining about black people and Hispanics existing in Miami, complaining about women who aren't "perfect 10s"... it's one long whiny cry of "why does it even exist if I dont't like it?!".

[@iller3]

And how many people are actually saying this?? Do you have an accurate count or do you just blindly trust the progressive twitter echo chamber?

[@Valzahd]

​@@iller3Sounds like you're one of these people since you're getting awfully defensive with multiple comments here.

[@Hodd_Toward_69]

@@Valzahd Lmao bro is a known quantity in Woolie's comment section at this point. Every time there's a clip related to politics you can bet your ass he turns up to post multiple dramatic comments defending rightwingers or trying to shift the blame.

[@johnrivers3813]

You know when someone is complaining that women aren't as beautiful as they expect has a porn addiction. Bruh, those women spend $100s if not $1,000 of dollars on cosmetic work in a month, we all can't or just don't want to invest that much in our looks. And the only reason they do it is because it's an investment in future porn work.

[@Shadowlily1112]

​@@johnrivers3813porn addicts have been running rampant as of late

[@wadespencer3623]

Trevor from Five was basically already Florida Man

[@adams3627]

"Canada Man"

[@wadespencer3623]

Yeah but he's a very Floridan flavor of crazy. Has that meth look, dresses right, probably would fuck a crocodile.

[@johnrivers3813]

I thought I saw him in the 6 trailer

[@yuggoth777]

When Woolie puts the h in hwhite, you know he's having fun!

[@Wixvhen]

As somebody who lives in Florida, I am in fact as white as Pat. That said, you would never find me on a beach. Also, speaking of the state-wide 'Florida Man Event', it's a culmination of five things. 1. Almost every kind of drug tends to come into the United States through Florida's waters. Access has a heightened chance to trigger FM Madness. (For context, there were kids in my middle school selling and using). 2. The general heat of Florida causes mass dehydration, heat stroke, etc... which is, again, another chance increase of FM Madness. 3. Inability to communicate with a notable percentage of our own population. A wildly higher fraction than you'd expect of the people in Florida (specifically in my area) do not speak English or have such a bare minimum understanding that communication is nigh impossible. This combined with certain politics leaves that section prone to wrratic behavior and disassosciation with people outside of their cliques. And no, it isn't just Spanish. I have in fact come across asian and haitian cliques as well, and that number grows as you get closer to the beaches. Again, another FM Madness increase. 4. Politics: It is a 'swing state'. In other words this week we're Republican. Next week we're Democrat. Both sides radically change things back and forth whenever they can causing instability on a societal level. One more chance raiser. 5. Disproportionate Wealth and Government Assistance. This is, by a wide margin, the worst one. You got people in yachts. You got the 5 huts next to a farm where 'immigrants' live 4 months a year and buy fifths from the local 7/11 and Circle K like it's rations. I know the location of a literal castle in ny city. And I have seen the portables less than 5 miles down the road in the other direction, with dirt roads. I am a security officer paid less than 15$ an hour. The people who live where I work bought me and my coworkers an 8 person snack platter for christmas that would cost me a paycheck because they figured why not. The disparity in this state is so wild you can't drive more than 10 miles without entering another dimension of 'is this even the same city?' Between all of this, and the fact that unlike most of the U.S. all criminal acts can be shared publicly without consent... Yeah, Florida is a shitshow publicly, while being only 'kinda' a shitshow sometimes, and usually only certain places. Usually the South side of any given popular city (Orlando gets that the worst).

[@thecaptain6520]

It's not a swing state anymore

[@heartlesshealer]

Like Woolie says, Florida is the peninsula of power for grinding

[@-inputoutput]

gamers have always been like this, but it's so much more cosmetically defensible because of the bastardization of the word 'woke' now, they have a word they can use as a shield: we hate """""""""""""""""""""""""""WOKE"""""""""""""""""""""""ness! and they repeat it ad nauseam because if they didn't have that word, the *OTHER* words they would say....... let's just say that those words are impolite in mixed company

[@MrRivech]

Woolie: They're mad because black people are just existing Woolie after being on 4chan: You know according to FBI crime statistics...

[@SpardasTechReviews]

Complaining that not just Florida, but a city that's a parody of fuckin Miami has mostly black people and Hispanics is wild. Lol

[@BTM8109]

As you gain more Insight, you start to see the true Florida beneath, you cannot know its true form while staying sane

[@Dat1AsianGuy]

At this point it has to be trolling/baiting 😂

[@Malikuntold]

The shift to realism from that arcade feel with gta 4 was refreshing. Saints row was still “videogame” like. Modern GTA shifted to the hyper realism. I do understand the “it feels like shit”

[@ravensflockmate]

He's stupid you're stupid

[@derpstick5467]

I get where Pat is coming from, but meh i still enjoy the games, really hope Woolie plays one of the modern games one of these days, I want to see if he disagrees or agrees with Pat.

[@nukeninmgt1504]

I really have no clue what Pat meant when he said cooking has more depth than shooting in RDR2. He's entitled to his opinion and all, but it's like he and I played two different games entirely.

[@Malikuntold]

@@nukeninmgt1504 to be fair… the shooting hasn’t really improved since Max Payne 3 with rockstar. Ever since it’s just been different iterations of that. It’s been 10 years. I hope we don’t get a gta 5 pt 2. I would hope for another gta4 type jump in mechanics

[@derpstick5467]

@Malikuntold they tried to mix it up with rdr2 and you needing to cock (pull the trigger again to cycle a gun) the gun if it wasn’t an automatic but lol Pat thought that was clunky, so R* can’t fucking win with this guy and anyone else who hated that aspect of the gunplay.

[@StardustSynchron]

Dying at the first 30 seconds, the change of tone was like a warning alarm 😆

[@LockMatch]

3:02 "We got arrested for bein' black on a Friday night." moment

[@willywitchdoctor]

It's best to just avoid Daka Daka. He just does alt right bait posts and reposts opinions from 4chan. He's a tryhard bot with no real thoughts of his own

[@LuLuTheBard]

As a Floridian, the meter is accurate. We are almost full….

[@rougetitan0413]

That's my biggest fear with gta 6 is rockstar going to hard on realism like red dead 2, which is funny because have more immersion in a game feels less immerse cause of thinking of all the game mechanics all the time

[@trashman1605]

Are you trying to tell me that GTA (the video game franchise known for criticizing American culture and politics) is actually WOKE!!!!!????.

[@Sercotani]

@@NocturneJester what...was politics in that one? Is it the power armour wearing BoS just walking menacingly? Or the nuclear bombs hitting the ground? Was it the badass gunslinger ghoul? ...Or maybe it was the "wöman" character, simply by existing. Shrug. I hope the show's good, just to spite them.

[@iller3]

@@NocturneJester Are you SURE it's that, or is it possible that it's looking a bit like the most recent SaintsRow Cringe ...you shouldn't speak For those people if you're not in the habit of speaking to those sorts of people

[@trashman1605]

​@@NocturneJesterthey're attempting to sugarcoat racism/sexism but everyone sees through their bullshit.

[@gwen9939]

@@iller3 this is the guy who in another comment said he wanted escapism... From GTA, the game that's literally a parody of modern america and always has been. This is exactly kind of low media literacy that's wrong with this whole discourse. It's like weaponized ignorance. "I don't understand how large studios will cannibalize their own IPs to keep shareholder interest in the short term so I'm gonna assume diversity hires who weren't hired on the basis of their writing skills(because then they'd hired the best straight white man for the job, we all know this) but to fill a quota wrote some garbage and that's how we got the new Saints Row.". You're mad at capitalism. Just stop it.

[@gwen9939]

@@Sercotani I've unironically heard people saying that they don't want ghouls to suddenly become some kind of metaphor for systemic racism. That the games are all about surviving in a wasteland and dealing with the literal fallout of nuclear war and that's it. Like that's the whole thing, they looked at the box art and was like "this is all this is about and nothing else. That, and then all the caesar's legion political philosophy I find oddly compelling for some reason". Like, these people can not be real, I swear they only live in my walls at night.

[@LockMatch]

All that molding get extra hilarious when you remember GTA SA being one of the most popular GTA games

[@leithaziz2716]

I played GTA SA. It wasn't really that much sluggish or too rail-roady from my experience compared to later games. The "mash A to sprint" mechanic was a real annoyance that unfortunately continued onwards though.

[@DJVevyVevs]

@@leithaziz2716 I think the malding comment is about the people complaining about black people in Florida

[@Akimbo411]

It’s about WHERE they are, not what

[@Hillthugsta]

I guess Black People are only allowed to exist in 'The Hood' it seems...or Africa.* *RE5 was an interesting case...

[@toddvogel8887]

Love the fact that Pat is out here spitting straight FACTS about Rockstar games and how their controls are Garbage and Saints Row (the old ones at least, haven't played the remake) felt a lot better.

[@aledantih6524]

Nah Saints Row felt floaty and cheap in comparison Pat is just coping

[@toddvogel8887]

@@aledantih6524 That is just completely wrong. Go back and replay Saints Row 3 start to finish, then start GTA4 and feel how AWFUL that game was and then you can come back and reply that you were wrong.

[@AceRevero]

​@toddvogel8887 seconded that. But I personally prefer SR2. It is a much lively open world compared to SR3, plus more activities like the popular FUZZ.

[@aledantih6524]

@@toddvogel8887 I mean is there any more proof than that comment that it's just cope? Also Saints Row 3 is just trash all the way through, you could've at least said 2

[@ColdNorth0628]

​@@aledantih65243 aint even that bad. Dull yes, bad? Nah. That goes to new saints row.

[@dmoneylulz]

It feels good for someone to speak out my own frustrations with modern GTA games

[@EmptyDisc1]

A Florida Event will occur - Woolie, Head of the Federal Bureau of Control

[@Legacy0901]

To be generous, Rockstar enemies do have some absolutely amazing hit reactions; if you shoot someone in the leg in RDR2 they will go through an extremely believable process of stumbling, losing their balance and falling - all completely unscripted. But that being said, that's pretty much ALL the combat in those games has going for it. The enemy AI doesn't engage with the player in any meaningful way outside of heavily scripted events, almost every encounter boils down to shooting galleries that are only differentiated by the context they take place in, there is virtually no enemy variety despite there being clear avenues of opportunity via visually distinct gangs and factions, and none of the player's guns are every different from any other gun in the same class of weapon. It's pretty wild how underbaked the combat in a Rockstar game is when you think about how much fucking time the average player will spend fighting enemies in any given playthrough.

[@ascendedsleeper7820]

Oh man you can tell this one's gonna be GOOD just from the thumbnail. Also I've been informed that Florida has a much faster release turnaround for police records and a disproportionate number of tabloids based in the state, so they get a lot more reports of weird shit compared to anywhere else.

[@jordanetherington1922]

Also much looser laws around journalists getting access to police records

[@IstasPumaNevada]

I just started playing RDR2 for the first time, and my most prominent initial thought so far is "I hate the way my character moves". It is actively and constantly distracting me from enjoying and getting lost in the game/world.

[@rain_magearchives4089]

Florida is a Special Zone on the America Map. It's where young people for the extra EXP events, and where old people go to unlock New Game +

[@adams3627]

Is a hurricane just what happens when the Florida Gauge fills completely?

[@krewl1252]

nobody tell the people complain about African Americans tell them the best GTA had CJ in it and he was the only protag

[@ShayneRawls]

Pat not getting Woolie's song refrence is on brand

[@deathtrap5000]

Being from Miami, I can tell you they got everything from Hialeah to Miami Beach at 3 AM right. They already got a Flannigans. Bet there will be a Publix, too.

[@night1952]

What GTA fan is complaining about black people? The best GTA was about black people and one of the three playable characters in 5 was a black dude.

[@bej4987]

I hope the female character is the crazy psycho ex we all wish we were

[@johnrivers3813]

I just saw a video today of a woman trying to attack a judge in the middle of a court room. Her boyfriend was requesting for a restraining order against her. Point made

[@punishedfist]

List of games that are more responsive and smooth than modern GTA/RDR: Saints Row Sleeping Dogs Days Gone Dead Island Horizon Zero Dawn Ghost of Tsushima Hitman... If you've been out of the GTA loop for a while, you might assume that GTA games would control something like Sleeping Dogs at least, but they really do not. To compare something like Ghost of Tsushima to RDR: in GoT, when you get on your horse, you are already controlling the horse during the mounting animation, you're free to keep moving because it's a video game. In RDR, you are waiting for every canned animation to end before you can affect anything as the player. As Pat mentions, the turning circle of characters on foot feels so long like you are driving a vehicle, but also your acceleration feels sluggish... The reason for it is presumably to stop animation chopping and flitting movements, but from an interactive perspective, it's a big hinderance if you value snappy controls.

[@msbkaioken136]

It baffles me how people are pretending like they know anything about animation or game development and are just using excuses to basically say they're impatient, or they'd just be objectively wrong, which is also very likely.

[@ItsDigidyDan]

In RDR 2 you can start controlling your horse as soon as you start to mount it just like Ghost of Tsushima. You are objectively wrong about that. This really feels like "hipsters" just hating on the big game cause it's the big game

[@punishedfist]

I just reinstalled RDR2 to check this. You are not in control as as soon as you press mount. Anybody is free to try this. There is delay. I'm not sure what the misunderstanding is. People are allowed to like RDR2 despite this....

[@ItsDigidyDan]

@@punishedfist as soon as your foot is in a stirrup you can control the horse, which is the same as Ghost of Tsushima

[@Hamun002]

The devs at Rockstar have pointed these gameplay issues out in the past, even I think coming out of GTA IV, but those two bastards that own the thing, I forget their names, have stopped it to focus exactly on the the cinematic shit. Its not like the people there don't know, they're not allowed to fuck with it.

[@AverageBananas12]

Pat's issues with GTA's gameplay and controls being "too restricting to maintain realism" reminds me a lot of the issues the new Mortal Kombat has.

[@randominternetsurfersurfin7595]

With MK11? I can see that complaint, but MK1(2) has much more wackiness and expression with the Kameo system. If you're talking about the animations... They didn't have that going for them since day 1.

[@diegomedina9637]

I can see it in Mortal Kombat... But not in GTA.

[@SamuelCatsy]

The funny thing is Red Dead Online plays way better than the campaign because they loosened the "realism". Well up until the point a hacker teleports you to the top of a mountain.

[@binuxuser]

Pat's gripe about the controls in modern Rockstar games is spot on. It's the main thing, besides the stupid GTA tone, that stops me from enjoying most of their games. Worst thing is, the token first-person mode is actually nauseating with how it keeps jerking your camera around because of animation frames instead of making like every decent first person game and leaving it alone doing nothing. It took effort to make these games control as bad as they do.

[@purplecyanblack3805]

Bro I don’t even consider myself a Transformers fan and this is the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. When I saw Kicked Jones, I popped off hard (I haven’t watched Energon since I was 12 okay leave me alone), and then the Bayformers too?! Like bro I’m so glad they went THAT hard.

[@AndrewTraver]

I'm so mad that the audio canceled out those laughs XD

[@MarlonMacielBrando]

Did those people ever heard of San Andreas

[@TealWolf26]

Rockstar are the kings of slow-time events.

[@ToozdaysChild]

I want to go ahead an point this out: When Woolie said "Black people just... existing" and Pat joked "The TRUEST crime" To the kind of person that gets upset about this shit? That IS the crime. That's literally the thing they're angry about. Whatever bullshit smokescreen they try to throw up about "wokeness" or "forced representation", it's all a distraction. They are mad that certain types of people exist. They want them to not exist. That is the point of the outrage. There's no nuance or 'other side.' They really are just bigots.

[@jordanetherington1922]

The fucked up thing is that this hate/fear isn't "natural". People aren't generally aware of race (which is a social construct) around like 3 years old. Something MADE them this way.

[@ItsDigidyDan]

Just to put an argument forward, I do get annoyed at what some people call "woke garbage" The biggest example I can think of is the MCU. Grew up watching the MCU, always had good and bad movies, but nowadays there seems to be a real push for replacing all white men with either females, minorities or female minorities. I don't consider myself racist or sexist, I just think the diversity is so forced and the movies suffer due to their focus being on inclusiveness instead of the actual script. Just wanted to put that out there.

[@Malamite]

Odd that they never seem to get angry about other races like Asians "just existing". Wonder why.

[@Dabednego]

Anyone can steal your car- Patrick Jean-Baptiste Antoîne Boivin

[@warzone822]

4:09 the look on woolies face when he realized where they can go with this

[@ricardomiles2957]

I don't mind the gameplay at all, well except the lack of fun cheats, in any GTA but the story on the other hand. Like 5 seems like a parody of GTA that takes itself seriously, i didn't bothered finishing the story back on the ps3 version and focused on GTA online

[@StatueBreaker]

I gotta agree with Pat. I've never played a game where it feels more like the character is actively trying to fight against your controls than GTA5 or RDR2. ESPECIALLY when you fall down or get knocked over and try to get back up. Also the horse controls in RDR2 are just the worst.

[@ItsDigidyDan]

I think you confuse "slow" with "bad"

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

4 was worse.

[@MrJans3n]

7:09 this is the best description of Florida I've ever heard

[@Wisehowlgames]

"Florida event soon Stalker!"

[@kruxdewdrop1220]

I hard agree with Pat about gta v controls. I bought it on a steam sale, excited to get up to some silly shenanigans, only to go "oh these controls are garbage, I'm never playimg this again."

[@baciu14]

It would be really cool if you could have a co op campaign in this game. I also wonder the level of customization we are going to have.

[@chasethecringewolf2195]

One thing that absolutely AMAZES me about GTA is how much it can actively piss off everyone. All parties and groups. Its a cultural touchstone of making even red pilled alpha males cringe and weep.

[@thecaptain6520]

GTA > South Park

[@chasethecringewolf2195]

@@thecaptain6520 I don’t think those are really comparable fully but ok.

[@mydrillasanjay5397]

​@@thecaptain6520both suck

[@Santoryu90]

The people who are upset about this I guess weren’t or wouldn’t be a fan of San Andreas then.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

To play devil's advocate for a bit; It's like how no one cares that Ripley from Alien was a woman, but now any time they see a female lead in a movie they can make the prediction that the movie us going to suck with like a 90% or more accuracy rating. It's diagnosing a symptom, the movie doesn't suck because it has a female lead, but the same thought processes that made the movie suck also made them make the lead female.

[@zombyjano]

Who was in San Andreas?

[@Santoryu90]

@@RipOffProductionsLLC Some of that’s debatable, and I’m pretty sure there's a difference between not liking a badly written diverse character than getting mad at none white people existing in movies, games and such.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

@@Santoryu90 hence "devil's advocate", are you not familiar with the phrase?

[@corwinchapman4565]

Florida is Yharnam, except instead of tentacles and gnashing teeth it's joker tattoos and ICP.

[@MoltandMigrate]

I wonder how fast Florida Urge fills up.

[@Carlos-Mora]

It's like the spirit of the Wendigo, you summon it by your actions

[@b_l_a_c_k-l_i_t_e]

8:48 woolie proving his title hilariously 😂 within the sentence, with almost no audience member noticing including pat. Gotta love it. EDIT I thought he said outta tongue.

[@finalflash98]

woolie be morphing his form in between these clips

[@megahellreaper]

I don't get what people are complaining about. The best game in the series is the first 3D one to have a black protagonist.

[@Xarx3s]

GTA has gone on far too long that the next generation have missed the entire point. It's a deeply satirical game that is highly critical of American culture and criminality. All this talk about representation, if there's any series that you wouldn't want to be represented in it would be GTA.