White Women for Trump? What’s The Cash Value of Racism in America?

[@rahaki5445]

Colorblindness, without first solving racism, is racism.

[@RexKing-b1j]

Color blindness is saying racism doesn’t exist because I don’t want to see it, so go ahead and be racist, cause I’ll cover for you. If racism didn’t exist, we would see color as a spice of life, not as something to deny exists.

[@SK-ql3yf]

That's the most racist thing to say to POC. They know racism exists, but they are gaslighting POC for their own preservation.

[@tonytomahawk5160]

Only two cultures believe in the race thing. The people who made it up and the only people foolish enough to embrace it. Every other culture rejected it. They don't identify as the pink people decided because doing so will only empower the concept of whiteness. Whiteness would be empty if people weren't foolish enough to call themselves black. This should be obvious by now.

[@muadhnate]

That's been my whole issue - they lie. They lie to their children, they lie to strangers, they lie to themselves and they lie to their god.

[@saturdayschild8535]

The lying to themselves is the most damaging. It fuels all the other lies.

[@Hsquared1000]

🎯

[@andrinabroussard1972]

@@saturdayschild8535 in the end …… the lying to their God is the most damaging…… that affects their integrity, moral compass and karma …..God don’t like ugly, period!

[@kirbyaugustine761]

Some people have been privileged for so long that equality feels like oppression.’

[@beachlover9705]

People that never had to do anything for themselves don't know what oppression is so they think equal rights will take from them

[@HenryEwald-c5g]

This it's like entitlement eventhough we re the lifted ones.

[@lilarain9310]

Oh my gosh you are SO right. I already saw it dealing with men in patriarchal religion. My ex could see only hierarchy. I was asking for equality, then he spits out " You hate men. You'd only be happy if women are in charge!" I told him, That would not work over time either! I'm talking about equality (Tho honestly, as badly as white males keep fing things up, I think we could use at least 100 years of Black Women being in charge to heal everything.

[@acc4465]

racism doesn’t exist in 2024. what you call racism in 2024 is a anonymous post on x that says the n-word. that’s not racism. that’s name calling. when something doesn’t go your way - it’s not racism.

[@ronaldvantine4488]

Yes, it's based on class, not race or ethnic origin.

[@1961burn]

Our whole country is that neighborhood in the 50s or 60s that filled their brand new gorgeous public pool with concrete rather than share it. PS YES please, let's start calling a thing a thing ("it's the racism, it's always been the racism). The gaslighting makes me nuts and the inhumanity breaks my soul 😢

[@gigiinspired780]

Facts 💯

[@peaceangel4192]

You said a whole word!

[@manueldavidson1398]

Absolute hard facts!

[@Contextualiser16-tn8nd]

It's because the predominantly white media is deathly afraid of introspection

[@Zan823]

Perfect analogy

[@greerjones9791]

Very interesting interview. Tracie said the Trump supporter part out loud. "If Trump gets back into office, everyone will be hurt..." Let that sink in

[@phanatic215]

I see those sentiments a lot. "I can't wait to see liberals cry." "Take our country back from the woke." All those comments scream that there are mediocre people who don't want to be better, so the only other option is to tear others down

[@pointfrogg]

It'd be like watching 3 Brexits in a row.

[@MyCatsChannel841]

Trump 🎉

[@TheVuduYuDu]

@@MyCatsChannel841 ah the very mediocre person others were talking about. Have you figured out yet that there were wars under Trump?

[@ruffinc1783]

You would think it, but many will disregard it 😢

[@Mr.J_the_Educator]

I don’t see color = denial

[@auldthymer]

I'm starting to think the response should be "No? What DO you see?"

[@marquisbrown9264]

🎯

[@JackieLastrada]

I think they see their own reflection..which aint pretty

[@reginaldreynolds3066]

Every one sees Color

[@SK-ql3yf]

More like gaslighting themselves and POC for their own preservation = POS

[@airving]

Karen you spit out Gems. Thank you.

[@Chris-kh4rq]

Karen called it!! White women again voted against their own interest.

[@MeganLaw-t4z]

Hi Karen , you are so spot on in this episode. I’m a white woman, a democrat and will be voting for Kamala Harris. One of my biggest frustrations is that so many white women support Trump. I first learned about racism in junior high when our school did a segment on the civil rights movement and I learned about the murder of Emmitt Till. But I didn’t understand about the structural racism that continues to exist in our country until I went to Law school and then got my MSW. I believe we should be educating children on these issues as early as kindergarten and continue through their education. I benefited from gong to diverse schools and have had the privilege of working with and for many black women and men- most of whom are still my close friends. I owe it to them to continue to fight against white supremacy and racism and to work to dismantle the oppressive system that benefits white peoples to the exclusion of people of color. I just wanted you to know that I am a fan of your show. Keep up the good fight. With 💙 from your melanin challenged sister in arms!

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

It's your very sentiment that teaching about racism and structural racism is getting banned from schools. It's a concerted effort to maintain white supremacy.

[@eg3186]

I have zero expectations of YT people

[@Bluejacket4life2]

SAY IT WITH UR CHEST...I FEEL THE SAME WAY

[@treyparker3775]

They never disappoint. History has shown us that

[@EffDinero8]

#ZERO

[@chayo4537]

Be careful. They're here. Watching

[@greymatters7039]

EVERYONE is on the chopping block if Trump gets elected. Say bye-bye to Social Security and Medicare. Say bye pensions and TANF. We know who mostly receives TANF.

[@Zan823]

But you see none of that matters as long they can burn 🔥 ish down and be kings and Queens of the ashes. The black Trumpers believe they are that "exceptional negro" Mr Candy talks about.

[@muadhnate]

Sadopopulism. That's the point. He'll punish them and blame someone else. And they'll believe it because they refuse to accept that someone would break the code of whiteness. They believe they are just as important as robber barons.

[@rosalynbeatty8310]

By to state department of education

[@Maliki777]

They not getting rid of social security, that's illogical

[@jeanettacrear9621]

​@@Maliki777About as logical as 45 giving additional tax breaks to the 1 - 3% of the US population.

[@JW-25]

Why is it that they "never have no idea" about racism? You know.

[@mykdebradley3586]

... because they are protected from iT, it's called white privilege.

[@marquisbrown9264]

🎯

[@chayo4537]

All __ ⚪️people say that

[@chayo4537]

All white people say that. Especially white women. They never know what's going on in the world or with their own communities 😂 but they know everything that's going on with you because they're interlopers and agents

[@rodb66]

Hello Professor Hunter and commenters. You're really turning these videos out and I'm here for them. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@BigNak364]

These are the same women that blame their daughters being abused by men, I will never understand that self hate!!!!

[@henrim9348]

White pastors say that all the time. Pastors... Yeah Pastors.

[@WilmaNorth]

Maga women.

[@JacquelineThompson-sc1os]

Preserving whiteness, preserving whiteness, preserving whiteness. There would not be a Trump without Obama.

[@cookie2727]

That’s trump short comings

[@nealmike5490]

Exactly

[@derrickshair]

And there wouldn’t have been an Obama without a Bush…

[@winnigriff8989]

Is it because he made some people angry?

[@lindachampion1273]

I concur 8 years of Obama they're still salty. Actually John Edwards was the front runner until his scandal 😊

[@ClubhouseCrime]

Soooo many white folk learned about the Tulsa massacre from The Watchmen. That's so crazy.

[@saturdayschild8535]

And then they promptly canceled the show. Too much truth makes their ears bleed.

[@markwilson5967]

White fragility.

[@chayo4537]

Lies. Who are all of these white people in america connected to? They cant all be immigrants 😂😊

[@ying_Ram0824]

Also probably didn’t believe it was true, it was fiction to them. 😢

[@markwilson5967]

@@saturdayschild8535 💯💯💯💯💯

[@CraigMcfly1985]

Well Karen these people made their choice for a Klansman over a black prosecutor.

[@KarenHunterShow]

yup.

[@neatab9372]

Can Tracie McMillan come back on your show to talk about what happened with the election?

[@mikeskew01]

Good point, blame others for their lack of success instead of getting a degree or upgrading their skills.

[@kirbyaugustine761]

It’s not about education per se; it’s about being ill-equipped when the playing field is actually level.

[@mikeskew01]

@@kirbyaugustine761 or just unwilling to step up their game to be better able to compete.

[@kirbyaugustine761]

@@mikeskew01 why do you think black people need affirmative action in the first place? It wasn’t due to a lack of education or unwillingness to work; it was due to unfair hiring practices when black applicants were properly educated and willing to work. It’s funny how black people are monolithic but white poeple are viewed as individuals. Racist media propaganda has done an outstanding job demonizing an entire race of people.

[@ronaldvantine4488]

There are numerous jobs in the trades that require no formal education where you are trained on the job.

[@mikeskew01]

@@ronaldvantine4488 yes but there are many that do and are important. We need doctors, engineers, teachers, scientists, climatologists and such.

[@hendrsb33]

Sorry to say, many of us don't learn until we suffer the consequences.

[@kdaddy100]

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. - LBJ

[@ronaldwaters8736]

I hope these women show up and vote blue. When abortion rights are taken they are out protesting. When voting rights are on the block these women are no where to be found. Sisters always save this country.

[@manueldavidson1398]

There is definitely a very huge cash value for racism in America.

[@ridge7524]

True Pathetic shi.smh Harris/walz24

[@patricksullivan7140]

Yep. Ask Reverend Al Sharpton.

[@midnightbluecitrus2687]

That's how AMERIKKKA was built!!🫴🏾

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

​@@patricksullivan7140 lmao 🤣😂😆 ask native Americans, ask slaves, ask Jim Crow, ask Red lining 🤣😜😉. The lies and propaganda you clowns tell constantly and consistently is like you all went to a school for liars 😂😂😂

[@lillieharris1371]

Thank you. Enlightening conversation.

[@jasonharris8099]

Does she know that Sesame Street was a depiction of harlem?

[@HoodMayorNyc]

I show people episodes of Sesame Street all the time. Especially The Golden An. 👍🏿

[@batgirlp5561]

She doesn't know a lot.

[@michellew157]

As a Michigander….she is absolutely correct!!! Graduate high school and go work for General Motors was the way to have a nice middle class life in the 70’s 80’s!!!

[@tonyjones1560]

There was also Bethlehem Steel, Sparrows Point, here in Baltimore. I’ve met a few guys who got jobs down there and dropped out of high school. They lived well enough to buy houses, nice cars and put their children through college… Today, Sparrows Point is an Amazon complex. Very few of the people working there are making that kind of money.

[@GrannysBabies642]

White supremacy is not just that. it's also misogynistic.

[@akumasdeception]

This is why I always stress class. A poor/middle class white person has more in common with a poor/middle class minority than an upper class white person. But people let their prejudices confuse them.

[@tonyjones1560]

I once heard an old white guy say, if white people ever figure out who’s actually screwing them, America might change for the better for everybody…

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

Poem of the forest and the Axe.

[@liamwhit1]

This should be an awakening moment for even white people who don't known the real history of this country like she said looking g at just the 20th century .

[@SoniT]

I don't trust them either.

[@billyford7853]

She talking about her grandfather being able to cruise through life working in a factory. It was the republicans starting when raygun was in office and pushed through by the 1st bush that casued all the heartache.

[@DoLikeLorenaBobbit]

Trickle down was swallowed hook, line and sinker by christians

[@seanharvey883]

Before Reagan, Nixon had the Southern Strategy.

[@TheVuduYuDu]

@@seanharvey883 True. But it was Reagan who enacted SOCIO-ECONOMIC POLICIES that deep sixed many protections and programs that built up the middle class in the first place and supported the vulnerable populations to get into that middle class. An excellent example is the Regean era policy that closed down state run institutions such as jails and state run mental health services creating with the first the prison industrial complex that is now being fed by this insane mental health/addiction cum homelessness crisis.

[@larryford6839]

Karen, I am Dr. Larry James Ford and I wrote a book, C is for Colored, which chronicles the fight for school integration in the 50s and 60s just below the Mason-Dixon Line. Your conversation reminded me of the difficulty in getting a few right thinking White people to do the right thing on school integration in the early and mid 1960s. The lack of shame in some, and the duplicitous, mendacious gaslighting and historical revision in the time, makes it worse and more dangerous than anything I saw growing up. Half of the country is in a mental crisis with a short memory.

[@KarenHunterShow]

Dr. Ford, thank you for this comment. We should definitely connect beyond this space.

[@larryford6839]

@ My feelings, exactly. Can I PMessage you? I have an interview on The Casual Author with Dan Kenner, episode 121. I think it will interest you. Or, Google Dr. Larry James Ford or C is for Colored.

[@db2796]

Loved the segment!

[@MichaelHibbleralanjwid]

Yes...thank you Karen!❤

[@michellemorse9585]

Professor Hunter: I’m a regular listener to your show, but missed this interview. Thank you for posting it here in its entirety. It was riveting and much too short. I know it could have easily been the focus of an entire show. I also appreciated the candor and respect of this conversation between you and Tracie McMillan. We can always count on Urban View to bring topics like these to us in a straight up way. Thank you.🙏🏽

[@KarenHunterShow]

thank you.

[@Mr.J_the_Educator]

This was a GREAT conversation!!

[@ridge7524]

💯

[@ridge7524]

Yes Harris/Walz24

[@Stephanie-bz1ou]

The "white flight".

[@malaikasmith3949]

You hit the nail on the head early in this interview: addressing capitalism would be a key way to address some of our racism problem in america. But Americans can I wrap their heads around getting rid of capitalism and its abuses. Until they do that, we're going to continue to spiral into destruction. And maybe, that's what needs to happen.

[@markobanion8652]

how a woman of ANY color could vote for Trump is mind blowing. I do not understand how or why they could do that.

[@ghostrider1827]

that "I wish I had better news for you" hits alot harder today doesn't it. SMH. Get ready for the pain.

[@MonicaG_]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@nataschawilson8982]

I grew up in Michigan and I didn’t know about the KKK blowing up the buses. But for reference Howell, MI was known for a large KKK community. I lived in Flint.

[@barbarabeckley8732]

And they call other people vermines and salvages who has done the most evil deeds in this country.

[@Contextualiser16-tn8nd]

@barbarabeckley8732- not enough people hold a mirror up to them and call them out for such projection

[@MorganMingo70]

God! What she said about the relationship with her father resonated so much! I am the same way… I’d learned how to deal with people in and outside of my family who lacked self awareness, but no matter how softball I delivered truth, they made me the black sheep. I was always okay with hashing out the problems in order to move on, but everyone else wants to sweep things to the closet & pretend it never happened. When I decided I wasn’t holding anyone else’s stuff (projections they want so badly to belong to me), it was so freeing… felt supper light!❤

[@saturdayschild8535]

This is typical in the dysfunctional family system dynamic. Often many in these families are extremely narcissistic and emotionally immature. They hate the truth teller. We always have to leave for peace of mind. This country is like an abusive relationship. Minorities, especially Black people, are the scapegoats for everything - constantly telling those inconvenient truths the system would prefer to ignore while continuing the behaviors. As in most abusive dynamics, peace comes when we separate from the system. Of course doing so brings accusations of “self segregation” instead of understanding social/emotional safety and peace of mind.

[@gregorybarnes5271]

Great Discussion Karen! This is the heart of America’s problem.

[@MichaelHibbleralanjwid]

Yes.....thank you Karen! Bring up truth!🎉😂❤

[@JesseJohnson-m4t]

Great interview

[@barbarabeckley8732]

I love how Maga say our country. REALLY. What happen to the American Indians. And they were called salvages. Blacks are taxpayers too.

[@MichaelHibbleralanjwid]

Yes...tell the truth ❤😂🎉

[@ying_Ram0824]

The more I listen and reflect on the current situation in this country. It’s becoming more and more apparent that racism is a symptom of the problem. The root is greed, the hoarding of resources, in the USA. The greedy we become as a nation the less we see humanity in one another. 💔 There really is enough for everyone or we would not have BILLIONAIRES.

[@karlculpepper]

Deep conversations

[@tawanasmith2794]

Very good interview. I appreciate Tracie's honesty and reflection. Keep up the work.

[@judithmccrea2601]

Don’t underestimate how Reagan and the neo-conservative media told people that government can’t be trusted. It’s part of it, too. In addition to what you’ve said in this conversation.

[@SaveThatMoney411]

The benefit is psychological.

[@BekkaPoo]

Reparations

[@valeriegrey8795]

Omg 😂 “Tracy I don’t y’all! “I don’t trust y’all! “ Wow I love your directness Professor 😊❤

[@Dee14you]

Your bring the facts 💯 👍🏾

[@LoisMann-g4u]

First of all you two young ladies are taking me back you're talking to each other thats what my caucasian friends and I did back in the day considering what's going on in the country now y'all gave me a gift thank you I was born the year of Brown vs the Board of Education

[@bherrin67]

This is a brilliant conversation, it’s tragic and sad, but true so it’s urgently important

[@twilobaby6118]

Tracie, thank you for providing insight into some of the intersections of thoughts and actions that happen on the subject of race from the "white" experience. It is in those places where understanding begins to take shape and presents more productive opportunities for better framing and for people to heal, learn and grow. When I hear the basis of thought behind the ignorance, I hear SO much. What a life!

[@almondsantos8531]

If you do not know your history you will repeat your history!

[@solerevyval4788]

I saw a clip of you on another show, and decided to click on this for my very first viewing. Excellent show, excellent dialogue. This is a spot on conversation. Every White woman I know willing to have this conversation echoes that sentiment of the that fear. However, I appreciate the context provided, which definitely makes me now want to buy and read the book. New channel to watch + new book to read = win! 💙🇺🇸🙌🏾

[@iansmith4270]

So what about white dudes for kamala Harris and white women for kamala Harris?

[@Mac-fts]

Thank you for your pour support, but unfortunately, you're were the exception and not the rule!

[@JosephChandler-vd1cs]

Yeah, what about them? Hahaha

[@sdboykin1]

.. . .great interview. . . . these are the hard conversations . . . that all human beings in the United States of America need to have . . . Great interview.... Courageous Women.

[@drj7572]

8:35 THIS is what critical race theory is about. Public policies/laws were discriminatory and created the duality of worlds.

[@vlove888]

“I don’t trust y’all! I don’t trust y’all!” 😂😂😂😂😂 I ain’t gonna lie, I’m a black man and that hurt my feelings!😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JosephChandler-vd1cs]

Why? The proof is in the voting.

[@sheliamayes8171]

I will take a look at the author's info and her book. I have never read a book written by a white person, which critiques racism and white people. I am not sure what " research" she has done that she could find such new information in 2024. I will keep a semi open mind but can't imagine that anything she writes would enlighten me. Interesting interview.

[@KarenHunterShow]

white fragility...and anything by Tim Wise.

[@sheliamayes8171]

@@KarenHunterShow I appreciate the suggestion. The language around white people is often very demure. White dysfunction could be a better name for the book. Please consider discussing the last 30 minutes of The Barn on audiobook. I was rocking with him until then. I would very much like to hear your thoughts. Much love ❤️

[@megavideopowermegavideopow8657]

Is there a part 2 to this conversation?

[@Angela-pi6zc]

Thank you for the insight

[@cherylbrown9456]

Excellent. Thanks.

[@angelabrown1104]

I have to admit I went through a spectrum of emotions during the first few minutes of Mrs. McMillan explanation. Starting with her grandfather and his experience, likely a huge swath of his generation, of "accomplishing" something through means of his existence beyond racial restriction... Then to have that in your mind as you see the country around you changing, diverging from what seemed to work just fine for them and is getting harder... Then to have someone like a Trump help you point your anger and dislike for the way things have changed and gotten more difficult due to this "other. "... Now...I am listening from a space of experience where we, as black people, were always told we couldn't blame anyone around us for our situations - even if the proof of it was blatant - and that it was up to you to do better... Having that in mind when she mentioned that folks in the Rustbelt didn't take it too kindly that they should look to do something different, I could my irritation willing up. But the moment it did, something clicked. And it actually makes the MAGA movement that much more shallow self-centered.

[@AJ-id2qf]

Very true what was said about hypocrisy!

[@miltonthegreat6520]

As a black Canadian, who knows we don't have it perfect either, I feel incredibly grateful to living in Canada. The stories heard from my southern cousins sounds so foreign and so frightening to live in. Your country should love you as much as you love your country. Canada celebrates it's multiculturalism and bilingualism, where we can.

[@Stephanie-bz1ou]

We are all working on it my brother and Canada has plenty of work to do herself. Peace to us all.

[@JR-mm5xz]

Karen: "I don't trust yall." 11.6.24: Nailed it 👏🏽

[@mauricerobertson8211]

🌍🗣🔊 LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! / 🏳️‍🌈🔵🇺🇸 Pennsylvania

[@Ayesha_Michelle]

This was informative ❤

[@tonyafrica7085]

Thanks for sharing

[@lyn2569akaLynette]

So glad they’ve proven themselves to us. They’ve never been about family values or fiscal responsibility, in fact I’ll scream if I ever hear that again. Vote blue ffs💙✌️

[@johndozier38]

They aren’t trying to fix it out of fear of losing power and position in this country. Which is understandable, I just don’t agree. If you treat people right, most will reciprocate!! And it goes with mistreating people!

[@femlite07]

Love this exchange. Just a caution. White women thankfully are not a monolith. Nor are black women. I shake my head thinking about my bi racial niece who thinks 45 is a genius and voted for him in 2016. his con game is strong. Her black mom is heavily anti gay and Ive never asked but I think she likes 45 too.

[@callmecanolli322]

This was a good interview. I am trying to brace myself.

[@jayreal2417]

This was a real smart video and a prelude to the reality!!!

[@MrCvjalexander]

What she said about those on the fence really not wanting to say they won’t vote Dem resonates.

[@hmalone9951]

Great informative interview.

[@reginaldpeterson3952]

good stuff

[@rebeccaalexander128]

What she said about an abusive dad, 💯

[@andreawilliams1509]

I'm a Black American. When I was in high school I decided to do a term paper on the removal of Japanese Americans into internment camps. ONLY then did I begin to get very curious about what I was experiencing and began reading more history. It made me realize the American history sold in classes was watered down so students would not question the good life. I grew up to be an education librarian at a university and saw first hand what kind of books were checked out. History books that encouraged a watered down version (for juveniles) got traction. Books that demanded so to speak that older children/young adults know that the world was more complicated and less sing songy rarely were checked out. Frequently I felt that the faculty in education did NOT demand/encourage students exposure to more complicated works. I have no answers but I know what we present to children as 'natural' and ok becomes the notion of the American story. Sorry that the post is longish. This discussion I'm hearing hits a nerve.

[@richardjohnson6628]

Very good interview 👍. Really dissects the reality of Apartheid America mentality.

[@brendataylor-jackson8511]

Now I want to see the two of you debrief

[@comicrobb]

I didn't know that about Sesame street

[@Mr.GwithaG]

PROJECT APARTIED 2025... That is the bottom line period

[@deehalb1446]

Embarrassed by their racism. That means they know just how wrong that is. We have a mental health issue.

[@JLW26_]

People think it’s a zero sum game

[@OriginalBernieBro]

I voted to keep Trump from NOT being held accountable‼️

[@thadiusventricle6752]

Lucy with the football !!!

[@GailDrewesBeaman]

63% of white men, 55% of Hispanic men, 20% of black men, 37% of other brown men add up to a bunch of folks that we can't beat it we are divided.

[@Moore_cookies51]

DON'T TRY and pull the rug over a pile of dirt. Some one may see just how dirty , I AM.

[@tesmith47]

the real discussion should be about how CAPITALISM created this to secure cheap labor

[@lue4724]

I used to hear White women say- "as long as they are put above Blacks- their struggles wouldn't be- in vain"! 😮😢

[@HBrowe]

Yep I am with yu on the white women support

[@cdoug9238]

They can’t help themselves

[@CarinaMichael-p2i]

Yes, they can, they dont want too😮😮😮

[@chasefasten4120]

Smaller government means the same money spent on government contracts to select companies owned by non-minorities.

[@chasefasten4120]

If they cut government services, they are cutting off the war machine as well. Citizens will not tolerate the exponential defense spending with no return on their investment.

[@anonmitty8250]

But they didnt want to live next to them so they picked up and left their thriving community to go to a not so good one