It’s amazing how many of the Olympia champs had 4 pacs compared to 6 pacs.
@greengoblin956710 ай бұрын
I don’t like Sergio Olivia’s midsection because he has no abs. It is one of the worst.
@michaelmayers362210 ай бұрын
One its genetics so u cant jusge it to hard 2 the 4 pac guys are more complete
@jamesw341310 ай бұрын
@@greengoblin9567 I'd take a small waist over an 8 pack literally anyday. It just looks so much cleaner to me
@Jesse-df9fz10 ай бұрын
That is interesting, lot of great guy that didn't have the best separated abs or perfect 6 pack also ended up having great lats/torso in general. It's interesting
@Nagy.Patrik10 ай бұрын
@@greengoblin9567 Nick Walker vs. Sergio Oliva midsection. What you choose?
@umyrongains487910 ай бұрын
Pecs to waist ratio is an underrated contributor to aesthetics
@bitraz52810 ай бұрын
True, a tiny waist with a wide back and big arms is the perfect aesthetics
@yussefcheaitou10 ай бұрын
wtf is pecs to waist
@umyrongains487910 ай бұрын
@@yussefcheaitou When the pecs are full and wide in proportion to the waist. That is why Arnold has an aesthetic front double bicep despite having a wide waist. Thats why Larry scott's front double doesn't look as good as Arnold's.
@gameurai570110 ай бұрын
I agree, especially as a straight guy.
@benzina79 ай бұрын
Abdominals and pecs......
@Supersetman10 ай бұрын
Love seeing you step up with your editing skills. This channel will become unstoppable. Can't wait to see you featured by the big industry players.
@smitabhmoitra572610 ай бұрын
This comment would be equally fitting if you, sir, were looking in a mirror
@BoilerBrett10 ай бұрын
Dexter Jackson
@sbdman10 ай бұрын
Dexters placing was a crime
@Srbenda12610 ай бұрын
small torso, high lats, turtle shell abs... mediocre torso
@dj_m1910 ай бұрын
no it's not, you're just not looking into it enough. He doesn't have a wide waist and doesn't have distention which at 1st look makes him look pretty aesthetic from afar and in a line up. Until you take a closer look at start to break it down, that is. Just like the other person pointed out
@sbdman9 ай бұрын
What about the symmetry, detail, small waist compared to some of those above him. Although he has high lats, they ain’t that high to where it’s the biggest problem. I’m not saying he’s top 5 but I just thought he was placed way lower than deserved. In my opinion
@ImYourHuckleberry_297 ай бұрын
Haney is my pick. Wasp waist. Cobra shaped lats. Thickest chest out of everyone. Extremely low lat insertions. Vascular. TotaLee awesome.
@ma-t694910 ай бұрын
Haneys back was incredible. I still believe he is the greatest physique of all time
@Jesse-df9fz10 ай бұрын
Samir probably has the physique I'd want most out of the mr Olympias
@hombreleon10 ай бұрын
Arnold’s front double looks like a King Cobra 🐍 Haney’s front double would’ve been perfect if not for that big gap in his abs. Still top 3 to me.
@gameurai570110 ай бұрын
Another fun video. Personally, my favorite torsos in the FBD are Oliva, Lunsford (minus the lat injections), Ramy and Samir - basically all over the place.FLS I kinda agree with Marx. Curry, Dorian, Samir and Dexter for the Ab&Thigh. I think the back shots are not really representative without the shoulders, so I ignored them. It's interesting to see that most of us are like that too: Comparing mass monsters, classic physiques, aesthetic bodybuilders and 90s directly and competitively with each other, but part of it is scaling, and part of it is aesthetics. It's basically a lat to waist competition with the most aesthetic abs and pecs.
@pacchisdinmepaisadouble10 ай бұрын
Pls change the video title to best torso in mr Olympia history... BTW great video
@alicecooperrocks288510 ай бұрын
LOVE these kinda videos!! I got my popcorn and protein shake ready
@taklampan65010 ай бұрын
I love these historical and speculative vids Mark!
@btwentwo10 ай бұрын
Bob Paris!
@mojaperspektiva10 ай бұрын
It is a shame that Brian Buchanan could not be in the discussion since he has not won a Olympia. But i think he would do damage 😁
@DurinDaemonenmetzler9 ай бұрын
Definitely! Perhaps Nr.1.
@cruxclimber2mt10 ай бұрын
Lumpsford making top 3 kinda blows my mind.
@Jsizzle680910 ай бұрын
Hell yea! My boy Dorian takes it
@taklampan65010 ай бұрын
Franco should be way higher on abs & thighs. For me he is in the conversation of winning that pose
@grayadam10 ай бұрын
True. His back, chest, and abs were his best features. His chest was deep and thick, and his lats were wide and thick. His belly was flat, and his abs were deeply etched. His limbs sucked.
@cvetkovicorama10 ай бұрын
Again you putting so much work in your vids...and it worked 😍
@noaha618510 ай бұрын
Easily Yates no one else even comes close.
@interfc61610 ай бұрын
I stopped watching when I saw Dorian 2 place and Jay Cutler 11th place. Dorian is known as one of the ugliest abs but still for you can make it 2 place same for Ronnie Coleman 8th place or Phil? 😂
@KateWandless10 ай бұрын
Excellent work, great concept
@igotfiveonit79036 ай бұрын
Dexter Jackson's midsection is so pretty underrated, it's perfect from the front
@ethangilworth789110 ай бұрын
This editing is amazing!
@dougb385410 ай бұрын
Haney just catches the eye
@benzina79 ай бұрын
Samir deserves much more from the front just for the low lats insertions and the compact midsection always under control.
@El_Superhombre_Blanco9 ай бұрын
Derek Lumplats
@josephohrablo486610 ай бұрын
Phil’s chest in the front lat spread was insane
@dave-oz1ni10 ай бұрын
Havent watched the vid yet but y show 2 of the worst mid sections on thumbnail
@JayasuryaYadavOfficial9 ай бұрын
Now this is an amazing content ❤
@mariosp79839 ай бұрын
Yes guys with the worst abs are 1-2😅
@leroydavis-vz2ir8 ай бұрын
Dude, torso heaps 😂🤣🤣
@FrankId10 ай бұрын
Mohammed Makkawy had an incredible torso
@samuelbaird422510 ай бұрын
Chris Bumsteads torso heap would give a lot of these guys a run for their money. I’d love to see a Dorian/ Chris comparison. Chris Front Lat Spread is of similar nature to Dorian’s.
@dj_m1910 ай бұрын
Bumstead is a classic physique competitor... and that comparison was already made by Marx, unless you mean a torso specific comparison
@samuelbaird422510 ай бұрын
I was thinking a torso specific comparison. I get it that CBUM is classic physique but objectively he would be in the top 3 for a few if not all of these shots. (Torso alone) Excluding back lat spread.
@samuelbaird422510 ай бұрын
@@dj_m19 I guess my main point is it would’ve been cool to see Chris in this video!
@tdawg687710 ай бұрын
@@samuelbaird4225i agree. Lat spread he isn’t big enough to hang on top 6, rear double mayyybe the same issue but less so. Other poses he’s likely too three. Unless his lats are smaller than I remember from the front. But abs and thigh top three, front double and front lay spread top 6 I would wager.
@natepolidoro456510 ай бұрын
How is Dexter so low??
@doublem1975x10 ай бұрын
Small ribcage, poor v-taper
@ABD56679 ай бұрын
All champions and not easy to put one above another. All good in their own rights
@smileyzz252310 ай бұрын
- Marx, how long should your next video be? - Yes
@Wheytoobuff9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the torso heaps research MMM for doing the important work!
@anthonyrahn78710 ай бұрын
Great video
@JustinHSV1710 ай бұрын
Great one!
@claesikerentheman464310 ай бұрын
Lee Haney defintely took the win 🏆 in the back!! MOST INSANE LAT INSERTIONS EVER!!!
@DurinDaemonenmetzler9 ай бұрын
Before this comparison i would have said so, too. but his BLS lacks too much definition. But he should be higher nonetheless.
@calvinc.233310 ай бұрын
Brandon Curry’s torso is pretty insane. Look at him in the front lag spread
@TJay9610 ай бұрын
Man Arnold really does have the goat genetics… His torso looks like a fucking king cobra
@marcoscabo97849 ай бұрын
In my opinion Samir's torso is insane. He is indeed short, but look at those pecs and lats, my god.
@paulcox24479 ай бұрын
same here. The overall torso proportions are exceptional.
@angnguyenkhoa509310 ай бұрын
Love your work Marx, keep it up
@cncaliguy0910 ай бұрын
Marx, Problem is the metric you are using is 90s 2000s era judging criteria. If you subjective look guys like Kevin Levrone, Flex Wheeler, Dexter have the best torsos because they dont have many weakeness in side chest, abs, rear or front poses. Ronnie was a mess up front some years with preggo tummy. Dorian one year came in soft and from front looks average minus lats.
@chefmastershake5 ай бұрын
Where's Brian Buchanan? He should definitely be in the conversation. Not a Mr. Olympia but frankly the best torso shouldn't be limited to those.
@yussefcheaitou10 ай бұрын
that BDB was hella hard to judge for the first ~10 places
@briani509 ай бұрын
It’s absurd how curry’s lats are sooo huge from the front
@oldspicey600110 ай бұрын
Australian watching this: "there are heaps torso heaps in this video"
@joebananas108810 ай бұрын
Before I watch this video I say this: It’s all about broad rib cage. But to broad rib cage is not optimal in bodybuilding becouse then in the front lat spread pose the lats are almost invisible. Best example for this problem was Victor Martínez.
@DurinDaemonenmetzler9 ай бұрын
Great comparison! But it's a bit of a shame that you only included the Mr. Olympia winners. Instead of Larry Scott and many others, it would have made sense to include Andrew Jacked, as well as Andrea Presti (!) and Brian Buchanan (!!) ! In my opinion, each of them belongs to the top 10 and would have easily defeated Jay Cutler. Brian Buchanan may be Nr.1.
@jayfosm39 ай бұрын
My vote: Lee Priest & Flex Wheeler
@stephenr8010 ай бұрын
Zane ❤ underrated in that dept.
@JayasuryaYadavOfficial9 ай бұрын
Franco columbo deserves top 3 or top 5 atleast, in the back lat spread and abs pose
@Free_speech_is_dead9 ай бұрын
Andrew Jacked has such a beautiful physique. He has it all.
@muscl3beard10 ай бұрын
LFG FIRST BABYYYYYYYYY
@benzina79 ай бұрын
There are muscles in that oil. No, wait, not what I meant......
@michaelmayers362210 ай бұрын
Aperantly when u look up torso it includes. Shoulder,chest,lower adomen, back and buttocks
@davidward522510 ай бұрын
The “balls” in Lunford’s lats are unsightly.
@xaviervega4689 ай бұрын
Haney wins hands down. Small waist, big chest, big lats, unparalleled v-taper.
@MarkLane-r5n8 ай бұрын
Love Coleman and cutler, but….the 70,s guys were different
@spensatron10 ай бұрын
Please keep the impressions coming!!!!!
@oldspicey600110 ай бұрын
11:00 Ab etching procedures look like Haddi here.
@thinkforyourself210921 күн бұрын
Bob Paris had a good torso. So did Brian Buchanan - better in my estimate that anyone listed above.
@michaelsloan136010 ай бұрын
I thought it wud be Dex,Shaun,Curry and Derek battleing for the win,nvr dreamed Dorian wud win, as a fellow Colemanite i am repauled 😂
@pamdespam854Ай бұрын
I think Coleman is over-rated. He came into the inception of the mass monster and won a few on size alone. Yes, his back is unmistakably one of the best ever, but the proportions are sometimes all over the place and his front torso was lacking hard.
@theotherchannel20289 ай бұрын
markus ruhl, but not in the fdb pose
@joebananas108810 ай бұрын
In the front double Samir Bannout No1 💯 Samir Bannout is also No1 💯 in the rear double
@franciscoeukalyptus653710 ай бұрын
Yeah And as hot ss can be !!!
@rickycain681410 ай бұрын
Ronnie had those merciless stabilizer muscles under his chest help his claim Fame.
@trapps759 ай бұрын
Derek has a ball in each lat he injected something common sense
@michaelmayers362210 ай бұрын
Jacked got the arms of of a smaller man
@paulcox24479 ай бұрын
Derek's long torso isn't ideal Biggest "torso" shot is the front doube bi and rear double bi. Short Torso proportions are better than long Torso's for bb'ing. Something a liitte lost in this video. You want a short torso and low lat insertions. Arnie, Ronnie and Haney, that's the real top 3. We all know what real life looks like between a 5'6 man and a 5'11 man. That's also not shown in these torso pics. If you want a short guy with a great torso, he MASSIVELY underrated Samir Bannout. For my money, it's about as good as it gets. His waist could be a little smaller, but it does give him a sense of power as his waist certainly isn't big. That along with his square shaped abs, pecs and shoulder girdle makes for a strong looking overall presentation. His back double is equally or more amazing. His tere's muscles have that nice round hourglass shape. Much like Ronnie and Haney. Arnold lacked this, as did Dorian for that matter.
@joewolf3810 ай бұрын
Andrew the best🙂
@Majkels10 ай бұрын
I dont get why you ranked the front double like this Why is the 2nd smoothest olympian 1st place? Just because of the tiny waist? I thought it was size>conditioning>proportions not the other way around
@sahan699610 ай бұрын
best torso Andrew Jacked 🎉
@Jsizzle68099 ай бұрын
From the front maybe but not when you factor in the back
@donyellmcgee823610 ай бұрын
The Blade should've been in the top 3 for best abs and thighs or #1!!!
@AndrewBelmont-9 ай бұрын
I know it definitely wasn't Phil Heath, despite what his ego might believe.
@dontreadmyname439610 ай бұрын
Lee priest had the best abs hands down no doubt
@spotos515410 ай бұрын
I think the best abs and thigh pose however was from Chris Cormier 1999 Mr o
@lautaroriveiro16910 ай бұрын
@@spotos5154 when you take a look in the general view of the torso shawn ray is the best
@joebananas108810 ай бұрын
No man... Lee is No2, No1 is Shawn Ray. Shawn is ~5% better overall in the abs & thighs imo.
@dontreadmyname439610 ай бұрын
@@joebananas1088 both are amazing
@dontreadmyname439610 ай бұрын
@@spotos5154 i disagree
@jordanhickey978510 ай бұрын
Legs next
@stevenczf10 ай бұрын
derek wons
@stevenczf10 ай бұрын
I don't have proves, but doubts neither
@Williameg279 ай бұрын
Prediction: Haney
@alpratt388110 ай бұрын
Andrew Jacked!!!
@minecraftavatarofhunterbiden10 ай бұрын
Marx please tell me. Are you about to draw every mandatory pose with every best part of all the Olympia champions? If you do that after these series it would be incredible. I cant even type it up it’s so complicated and unique. I CANT even explain what you potentially could do. 10/10 content. Love your KZbin Marx! Make shirts so we can gym with it.
@goldenera4ever10 ай бұрын
Frank Zane. 2nd to me would be ANYBODY over Yates and on.
@seankinsellasean9 ай бұрын
For me Big Lenny
@fghgffgvbghАй бұрын
I knew dorain was going to win since no biceps was involved...
@SiG-Popart10 ай бұрын
Yates is from the Midlands not Yorkshire lol
@MrRudy-vk7xx9 ай бұрын
Great video, odd results.
@mandyperez508010 ай бұрын
Derrick and hadi best torso front view
@trapps759 ай бұрын
Rear double samir and phil
@tonynilsson376510 ай бұрын
Dorian I feel that allso🎉 nr1
@petrtsoy32 ай бұрын
brandon Curry is on top 6 rear double
@Horrorfreak869 ай бұрын
I will give big Lenny the win
@davidanderson36849 ай бұрын
Naw serge nubret upper body alone in that debate!
@Jesse-df9fz10 ай бұрын
Am i crazy or is there no 13th place?
@Gnybr10 ай бұрын
Dorian Yates is the greatest bodybuilder of all time so I am despucting that