Who is the Strongest Phantom Troupe Member?

[@TheSpeep]

I feel like the Spider is perhaps the most "family" like version of the found family trope out there; they bicker, they have disagreements, they each have their own interests and dont spend every waking hour together. Yet theres clearly a deep sense of comraderie shared among the whole group, and they clearly care about one another.

[@TheSpeep]

I do feel like Nobunaga should probably be above Shizuku, at least when it comes to combat ability. Its stated in the show that Nobunaga is one of the Troupe's frontliners, so while were never actually shown him in a real fight, I do think that the suggestion that his role within the group is explicitly combat focused is a good reason to assume he ranks somewhat higher.

[@lockedin6699]

Hisoka being stronger than Chrollo has yet to be proven. The contrary however has. Best we go on what we know rather than speculation imo

[@Amandhiman6974]

Chrollo is stronger than hisoka

[@BoBnfishy]

Idk he's got both the power of rubber and gum at the same time...

[@aadipunwani6124]

I mean, outside of a setting like Heaven’s Arena, Chrollo would maybe be on par with Hisoka (this being before their fight). After their fight, it seems pretty clear that Hisoka could mop the floor with him unless he spent weeks preparing

[@indigoknives]

In what world is not getting hit and blowing your opponent into pieces “barely beating Hisoka in a close fight”? When did Hisoka have the advantage?

[@indigoknives]

That’s not even touching the fact that we don’t know if Hisoka’s “even stronger” like you claim, the only thing we’ve seen from him to date is him murder two members he’s been stronger than since chapter 1 and intimidated two of Hinrigh’s underlings

[@jesseb08]

@stephen white ya with how nen after death is explained, its only so powerful because the users desire for something was so strong that that was carried on through death to perform a certain action (pitou with just killing gon). In hisokas case he merely commanded his nen to revive him, theres no reason to assume he just got a flat power boost because he died, what he wanted accomplished with his nen after death was successful so he just be as he was prior to dying

[@Damphouse]

Not sure how Hisoka can be #1 if he lost to #2. Chrollo's ability to steal others' abilities is exactly what makes him stronger. I don't think that takes away from his power, if anything it's exactly what justifies it. Not to mention he's just as quick of a thinker and likely a better strategist than Hisoka. Not to mention Chrollo's nen may be even stronger after what happened to Shalnark and Kortopi.

[@utnis]

Hisoka isn't dead. He is stronger. Chrollo put up his last stand already so he can't beat the better Hisoka now

[@Damphouse]

@@utnis He may very well be stronger but it's not certain he's unbeatable. After all, Gon was able to beat Pitou even though she seemed to have the advantage. The right conditions and resolve can sway the fight in anyone's favor

[@takatotakasui8307]

Chrollo probably had outside help when he won against Hisoka, aside from just borrowing their abilities. Chrollo also got to pick the arena so he had every strategic advantage

[@Damphouse]

@@takatotakasui8307 I do agree that if he had help that's a chink in his armor. I still think it could go either way in a 1v1 but Chrollo would definitely have a harder time

[@torahibiki]

Chrollo with prep time is by far, way stronger than hisoka.

[@nicrules77]

do yall realize chrollo doesn’t have the same abilities he did when he fought hisoka at first since he killed those members. plus hisoka got a zenkai boost after the fight, its a no brainer

[@mandelaominesensei1906]

He still has Sun and Moon

[@Kazanarism]

Didn't expect it to be just a band of thieves, but it's more interesting & in-depth than the best selling manga of all time kk

[@D00MTR33]

I agree with all except Kalluto. The 2 below him don't really have offensive abilities (none that we've seen) so him being ranked as the lowest offensive user seems fair. Where would you have him? Below Kortopi and Paku?

[@entertainmentcapybara2220]

aaaaaa pls put a spoiler alert for non manga reader

[@lazaruce2204]

y illumi listed as troupe?

[@wumbojet]

Manga

[@lazaruce2204]

@@wumbojet illumi was "hired" to hunt hisoka with them . hisoka himself used texture surprise to infiltrate troupe . that's all in the manga to, aye?

[@benakinnusi2518]

Shizuku over nobunaga.. clicking off now

[@takatotakasui8307]

No problem with Hisoka taking the top spot, but Nobunaga seems like more of a speed type and probably a transmuter with his sword. He should be higher, he can probably kill members of the Troupe like Feitan and Phinx

[@essie3779]

😄 *promosm*

[@rylace]

kalluto too high, shalnark too high, franklin too low, nobunaga waaaaay too fucking low. machi probably too high too even tho i actually want to be wrong about that.

[@BlackBurrito9073]

"it took chrollo to steal all the nen ability of every troupe members to fight Hisoka"? did you watched the same fight as we did? Chrollo only took 2 abilities from his comrades... Black Voice from Shalnark and Gallery Fake from Kortopi, which are the members that Hisoka killed afterwards. the other 3 abilities that he used during that fight were "Sun and Moon", "Order Stamp" and "Convert Hands" which none of them belongs to any of the remaining Troupe Members. if we had to make a comparison i would say that chrollo is like Batman, he can beat pretty much anyone if you give him enough time to plan and prepare. and that it's just an assumption because we don't actually know how deadly Chrollo is when he's fighting at 100% and on the go (without making preparations), the closest we've gotten to seeing that was in his fight agaisnt the Zoldycks which ended with Zeno stating that chrollo could potentially beat him in a one-on-one (let's remember that Zeno is an Ultimate level Nen User, demonstrated by the new Nen chart Togashi created for a Art Gallery).

[@joselacen4534]

I has to stop wacth the video when you put Shizuku, Franklin, Shalnark and Machi 😂 above Nobunaga, i mean they can figth but is pretty obvios that they are not more strong and elite than Nobunaga! The only can be above Nobunaga are Bonolenov, Hisoka, Uvogin, Phinks, Feitan, Ilumi and obviously Chrollo.

[@ItsShaz1]

Interesting

[@takatotakasui8307]

I agree

[@LethalPlayers]

Nobu at #12 and Hisoka at #1. Cmon now

[@vondas1480]

Teppu tier list?