Why Kakashi Was The Worst Teacher But The Best Shinobi In Konoha

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Жыл бұрын

Kakashi is the leader of Team 7, so he too is fated to carry burdens in that sense. Kakashi Hatake has always been my favorite character in Naruto on many levels so I wanted to take this opportunity to explain why he's a great character. A lot of people think he's just a jobber but he's actually very cool. Comment "copier" if you're reading this, I'm curious. A surprising number of people commented copier honestly
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@ice1032
@ice1032 Жыл бұрын
I dunno they learnt pretty gd
@edwardsuou
@edwardsuou Жыл бұрын
Kakashi didn’t really teach them that much though, just the group to walk on threes and Sasuke’s chidori. Which wasn’t that smart of a move considering Sasuke wasn’t emotionally ready to have that much power and as expected he used it wrong several times. Although to be fair Sasuke needed that to beat Gaara and Kakashi thought he would’ve used it as wisely as he does. Naruto’s training was almost completely done under Jiraya and his master first and Killer Be second while Kakashi only taught him some basic rules and gave him a very good hint to how to train himself. Also Kakashi wasn’t very present and all of his students lacked his support at some point of the story especially Sasuke. That’s true, he’s not a good teacher in every sense. There are a few invaluable things Kakashi taught his team better than anyone else though. What it means to be a ninja and to take that seriously including Obito’s rule. And also what it means to guide and protect your teammates when you are working with them. Also he used the bell test better than anyone who used it before.
@addictedtoair1351
@addictedtoair1351 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to 3 sannins
@shinozaddy5939
@shinozaddy5939 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardsuou the fact that you didn’t mention sakura is hilarious too. I don’t think she learned a thing from kakashi. All pf her training was from tsunade.
@tellmesomething2412
@tellmesomething2412 Жыл бұрын
@@shinozaddy5939 Genjutsu released is all she learned outside of the tree training. Which if you remember, she mastered immediately.
@305Independent
@305Independent Жыл бұрын
@@edwardsuou Kakashi helped Naruto understand chakra natures and develop the rasenshuriken
@uchiharainy
@uchiharainy Жыл бұрын
I used to never understand why sasuke went to orochimaru, I always thought kakashi could have trained him just as well but looking at it from sasukes pov it makes so much sense. He had just learned an s rank jutsu from the strongest Jonin in konoha and still got folded by transformed gaara, meanwhile naruto had like a month of training with a sannin and he beat gaara. Then itachi comes to the village and leaves him and his sensei hospitalized. Not only did he get embarrassed by itachi but so did the guy that’s supposed to prepare him for killing itachi. Then he finds out itachi was “scared off” by jiraiya who’s relative to orochimaru. The same orochimaru that came to the village and killed the pinnacle of strength that the village had to offer. Putting all this together it makes perfect sense why he thought Oro could prepare him better.
@meetthemoo225
@meetthemoo225 Жыл бұрын
In all fairness raikiri is actually only an A rank jutsu.
@uchiharainy
@uchiharainy Жыл бұрын
@@meetthemoo225 I think chidori is actually A rank, raikiri was the S rank one
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 Жыл бұрын
Plus Sasuke didn't really care if he lived for a long time, as long as it got him closer to his goal. Thus he took everything Orochimaru had to offer and when his teacher had nothing more to offer? He consumed him whole with his immense willpower. Sure, his eyes had a lot to do with it, but his drive and obsession is both his greatest strength and weakness. Which I think is the reason he chose not to receive a replacement arm, as a constant reminder that he had almost crossed the line and had to be pulled all the way back by someone far more stubborn.
@heavenlyarianator6335
@heavenlyarianator6335 Жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to develop the curse mark power too... But yeah i agree w you
@VersusThem
@VersusThem Жыл бұрын
And, I mean, that's a correct assesment, we didn't get to see what happened in the time skip but he came back much stronger and ready to kill Orochimaru, which not even Naruto was even close to at that point, you could argue that it was because he was an Uchiha (and the show certainly wants to portray it that way), but regular Uchihas weren't that OP, so, yeah, Orochimaru may be a dick but was a good teacher to Sasuke
@rezhaadriantanuharja3389
@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 Жыл бұрын
Weird that nobody mentioned Asuma. His team was the only team with solid teamwork and formation in the Chuunin exam arc. He was the only teacher who guided all three of his pupils all the way to his death. He also had personal bond with all three, despite all of them including Asuma being only side characters, which in Kishimoto’s world is quite rare
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 Жыл бұрын
Y, Asuma is cool guy. But to be honest, he did put his team at great risk on the chunin exams, they the less prepared team of all. Sound Ninja or Team guy could easily take their scroll/lives, but they didnt for the plot.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 Жыл бұрын
Probably because his team already had the foundation of teamwork from their clans.
@Williamjacob7789
@Williamjacob7789 10 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736They all could’ve lost their lives. They could’ve ran into Gaara. I think the whole point of the Chunin Exams were I’ve prepared them enough. This is their sink or swim moment.
@xavierthomas5835
@xavierthomas5835 4 ай бұрын
​@@Williamjacob7789the only teams I could even possibly see that being true for is team kurenai and team guy. Guy because of their individual strengths, not because of any teamwork they displayed, because they didn't. Kurenai because of what little teamwork they did display, though them much less than Guy's team. Hinata at the start of the series was a weak link, if only in her mentality.
@michaelb5998
@michaelb5998 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi always was like "Sakura has best chakra control" "Sakura is Genjutsu type ninja" and never taught her anything besides how to climb a tree...
@xvingar6318
@xvingar6318 Жыл бұрын
If you think about it Kakashi has nothing to teach to her. He copied all of his jutsu with the sharingan except for chidori he made himself stated by Guy
@mfshro0m
@mfshro0m Жыл бұрын
@@xvingar6318 yeah and even tho he had a sharingan I can’t remember him ever using genjutsu
@SlugSage
@SlugSage Жыл бұрын
@@mfshro0m He put Sakura in a genjutus during the Bell Test.
@dancarli8639
@dancarli8639 Жыл бұрын
@@xvingar6318 I think ppl were saying Sakura has a earth and water chakra nature he could have thought her some
@amandahuang4850
@amandahuang4850 Жыл бұрын
Technically they were the most similar too. Like small reserves but great control and he still decided to not teach her anything-
@geoforce6228
@geoforce6228 Жыл бұрын
A genius is usually a bad teacher. Things come to naturally for them, it's hard to relate to others.
@rustyshackle8000
@rustyshackle8000 Жыл бұрын
I always saw Kakashi as the most grounded Naruto character. More than maybe anyone else, Kakashi KNOWS how brutal and unfair the world is. How good intentions don't mean you'll survive, and will is often not enough. But he isn't a nihilist. He still sees value in love and friendship and caring for others. But this means that if something threatens those he cares about, Kakashi doesn't hold back. Kakashi doesn't fight fair. He sees a target, and he eliminates them. There and then. Because he sees it as his job to get his hands dirty, to take all the burdens on himself, so that the next generation can stay clean and finally end the cycle of hatred.
@code.c.
@code.c. Жыл бұрын
Because of Kakashi's reservedness during the main series, it can be easy to assume that the most critical points of his character development are in the past and that he's more or less static during his time as the leader of Team 7. But the things he goes through as a teacher teach him much more than the things he went through as a student if you look carefully enough. Such an amazing analysis of his character based entirely on part 1 material is proof of that.
@397llederson6
@397llederson6 Жыл бұрын
Something to point out is that Sasuke has a few interesting moments for example instead of going after Itachi when he arrives in Konoha Sasuke instead tries to save Jiraiya and Naruto
@hish33p32
@hish33p32 Жыл бұрын
didn't realize that myself
@kleatise52
@kleatise52 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and he was willing to die for Naruto at least 3 times before.
@IIIISai
@IIIISai Жыл бұрын
Sasuke a real G
@GearlessJoe0
@GearlessJoe0 Жыл бұрын
Well it’s the same thing because he knew itachi was going to capture naruto so by going to where naruto was he got a two off one special
@hish33p32
@hish33p32 Жыл бұрын
@@GearlessJoe0 true
@Otaku155
@Otaku155 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, Kakashi was probably the most vulnerable to the Sexy no Jutsu lol
@J99___
@J99___ Жыл бұрын
I feel kakashi actually got through to sasuke when he chained him up and gave him the “We still have friends” speech. Kakashi basically told sasuke his origin and how it is similar sasuke’s own, but left out crucial details. However the point got across to sasuke and sasuke actually understood what kakashi meant. Sasuke even saw naruto and Sakura on his shoulders in that moment. So, kakashi left sasuke to make his decision. The sad irony is that kakashi was TOO EARLY for once. After kakashi left sasuke to interpret his own vulnerability and goals, orochimaru’s influence came through as the curse mark squad. They grabbed sasuke’s heart as it was in a crucial development stage and coddled it with ill intention. Kakashi was too early. If he spoke to sasuke after the curse mark squad came, sasuke may have developed better and let go of revenge easier or at the very least would stick with the leaf to accomplish his goal. Kakashi may have opened up more about his own life and helped sasuke through his. Kakashi is a great teacher who truly cares for his students, but his own self doubt and grief held him back from doing more. With sasuke he just couldn’t keep up with sasuke’s thirst for revenge and couldn’t fully open his heart about his own past. With naruto, kakashi struggled to bond with him for a long time due to them not having much in common initially and the fact naruto is minato’s son (a very touchy subject for kakashi and a literal shard of the past). With Sakura, she reminded kakashi of rin which made it hard for him to bond with her like naruto and also struggled with her main goal: love. Kakashi struggled with love in his own heart for a very very long time and had no idea how to confront that truly. He didn’t really know how to teach Sakura in a goal oriented way so he just tried doing what he could by posting out her strengths and desires. It wasn’t kakashi’s fault this occurred and he did try his best. It’s a sad tale for kakashi. However that sadness does bloom into happiness born from struggle.
@ShadowHokageAJ
@ShadowHokageAJ Жыл бұрын
My only problem with Kakashi is that he completely ignores Sakura. She reminds him of Rin but doesn’t train her so that what happens to her doesn’t happen to Sakura. The minute he see Sakura’s obsession with Sasuke, he should have quickly knocked sense into her. She literally only became a ninja to get sasuke attention and he could have told her that it’s gonna get her killed.
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi: Teaches Sasuke Chidori, Gai Style Taijutsu, + Imparts on him the value of teamwork Kakashi: Teaches Naruto chakra form and nature, Teaches Naruto Rasenshuriken, Teaches Naruto how to train effectively using Shadow Clones, Teaches Naruto about the Will of Fire. Kakashi: Teaches Sakura about Genjutsu resistance, Teaches Sakura about the brutality of battle, Teaches Sakura basic chakra control that allowed her to begin medical training. Y'all: "He didn't train Sakura or Naruto." What???? He trained all his students
@rydercdaniels4475
@rydercdaniels4475 Жыл бұрын
@@prolastmedia6171 Sakura already had the natural talent for chakra control and with or without Kakashi she Would have mastered medicalninjutsu with tsunade tegardless and as for genjutsu resistance that how often has that actually helped in actual combat?? Very rarely did Sakura have to dispel genjutsu when most shinobi use ninjutsu and taijutsu. Kakashi failed Sakura. She had so much potential and Kakashi did nothing for her that she had to actively seek out a Sanin to help her get stronger
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
@@rydercdaniels4475 All Kakashis students had talents -- you dont teach talents. Kakashi taught them what I outlined above. Specifically in terms of chakra control, Kakashi revealed Sakuras talents for chakra control in the first place as seen in Land of Waves Arc & taught Sakura to detect, resist, and break Genjutsu by controlling her chakra as seen during the Bell Test and later in Konoha Crush Arc. Without Kakashis instruction, Sakura would never have had the foundation that allowed her to become Tsunades disciple.
@ShadowHokageAJ
@ShadowHokageAJ Жыл бұрын
@@prolastmedia6171 so he taught her genjutsu resistance, when have we seen Sakura actually using that throughout the entire series? Also everything you pointed out for Naruto and Sasuke only proves my point on how he ignores her. He taught Naruto and Sasuke what are S or A rank jutsus but what does Sakura have. Her taijutsu and ninjutsu were terrible. She was pointed out as a genjutsu type but doesn’t have her own genjutsu specifically made by her. During the Wave Arc, after seeing that she got tree walking on her first try he could have taught her something else but dismissed her for the rest of the day. He could have trained her better in taijutsu while the boys were still trying but did nothing
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowHokageAJ Kakashis chakra control lessons were a major plot point in the Konoha Crush Arc for Sakura, did you miss those chapters? She was the only genin besides Shikamaru who withstood the Genjutsu -- so clearly pretty important. Also, Sakura began dedicated training with her Master before either Naruto or Sasuke, it was her decision to use the chakra control Kakashi taught her in the field of medical ninjutsu and, in case you forgot -- Kakashi isn't a medical ninja. You're being disingenuous. I get it's a funny meme, but you're just wrong. Before Sakura began her discipline under Tsunade there are several moments in the manga that show Kakashi teaching her as well as the fruits of that labor, again of all the genin only her and Shikamaru, who graduated to chunin that day, could release the Genjutsu by controlling their chakra
@chavonjames8941
@chavonjames8941 Жыл бұрын
6:10 the reason his way of thinking not due to Minato, but how he had a naive teammate that changed his way of thinking on a mission ultimately lead to Kakashi witnessing the death of said comrade. If it weren’t for Obito, Kakashi would still be stuck in his way of thinking and young Kakashi didn’t understand the path his father took until meeting him in the afterlife momentarily (which was so sad cuz his father had A LOT to explain, incl his suixide 😪)
@-UnknownHero
@-UnknownHero Жыл бұрын
One of the things I really love about Naruto is that everyone realizes different things, and when they point them out, I wonder how I missed it. Like that Guy is in sometimes a bad teacher, or that Sasuke also must have questioned Kakakshi, after his no. 1 Jutsu did not help Sasuke that much (btw. props and thanks for pointing that out)
@jasonmoukala8909
@jasonmoukala8909 Жыл бұрын
His number 1 jutsu helped Sasuke a lot
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
Lightning blade didn't help Sasuke? That's why he still uses it til this day right? That's why he trained to make Chidori variations right?
@SlugSage
@SlugSage Жыл бұрын
Imagine Sasuke without Chidori.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 Жыл бұрын
Guy and Kurenai are worst teachers. Guy worked hard only with Lee, and made him to use suicidal jutsu without planning ahead...Kurenai...well, Naruto does teach her students.
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
@@alexzero3736 Kurenai literally didn't teach her students sht
@Lavernes
@Lavernes Жыл бұрын
"In the ninja world, those who break the rules are scum, that's true, but those who abandon their friends are worse than scum." - Obito
@PlayerJay425
@PlayerJay425 Жыл бұрын
This is actually very common. Having someone be the best at something almost always means they can’t teach/coach it. You look at sports (modern era) and all the best players make at best average coaches and if they have sons that play their sport they are always worst than their fathers when the father was like an all time great. Then all the players that were like career backups somehow end up becoming some of the best coaches of their era.
@KFordmusic
@KFordmusic Жыл бұрын
I wonder why that is? Is it just a talent thing? Someone that’s not as talented has to fully master the fundamentals of what it is they’re doing to keep up with natural talent. Even Steve Nash just had a tough time coaching, he was a 2x MVP player. He was probably like just go win 😂😂
@syt3189
@syt3189 Жыл бұрын
Zidane would like to have a word
@PlayerJay425
@PlayerJay425 Жыл бұрын
@@syt3189 is he considered the best ever like a Micheal Jordan or Tom Brady?
@xvingar6318
@xvingar6318 Жыл бұрын
@@KFordmusic it’s a skill thing
@billalzerouali4472
@billalzerouali4472 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayerJay425 top 10 easily
@rafaelcomfsemph
@rafaelcomfsemph Жыл бұрын
A subject that i think is fun to talk about in naruto is teaching, Naruto had a bunch of learning impariments, Iruke used a more humane approache, which kept naruto engaged, Kakashi simply wasnt capable of teaching naruto, Jiraya could teach more because of his overwhelming knoledge and having a similar profile than naruto, he knew some tricks in dealing with passionate but unfocused kids but the best teacher in the whole naruto series was..... Naruto himself! he teach Konohamaru with ease kage bunshing nojutsu, and the rasegan, some A-Rank techniches the reason to this i think is that internalized so much the failure of his teachers approaches that he build a bunch of personalized learning methods
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Naruto taught Konohamaru his most effective technique, Sexy Jutsu
@ieatpotatosalad535
@ieatpotatosalad535 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it’s subjective. I think Kakashi was still young and inexperienced as a sansei he like everyone would learned and got better along the way but by the time he grew to truly get it they were all relative to him. Idk I liked Kakashi and seeing his growth was good. Plus he’s still one of the coolest characters even if he’s not my personal favorite
@ieatpotatosalad535
@ieatpotatosalad535 Жыл бұрын
@Robbie A yeah for sure. Without that they’d be as basic as everyone else lol
@jakestone_
@jakestone_ Жыл бұрын
Bro wtf I’m watching this while high and I’m fck tripping 🔥
@pessimisticplantain8636
@pessimisticplantain8636 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke's faith in his ability to protect was actually destroyed by Naruto when he fought Gaara. The fact that Naruto could protect Sakura while he couldn't hurt him deeply. I don't really know what Kakashi could've done to restore that.
@gamerookie09
@gamerookie09 Жыл бұрын
I like how he discussed Kakashi teaching Sasuke the Chidori. But, let's be honest, Sasuke learned the Chidori because Kakashi knew that was the only jutsu that can break Gaara's defenses. What do ya'll think?
@takatotakasui8307
@takatotakasui8307 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi should have plenty of lightning style jutsu honestly, any of them should work against Gaara's Earth style
@gamerookie09
@gamerookie09 Жыл бұрын
@@takatotakasui8307 At that point in the series, I wasn’t aware of any other Lightning release Jutsu that Kakashi can use.
@ooKn1GhToo
@ooKn1GhToo Жыл бұрын
@@gamerookie09 I doubt the man who copied a thousand jutsu didn't manage to copy a single lightning style one. Always hated how overboard the went with that title and then only showed him using a few basic jutsu of each style, that someone of his skill level could have probably learned without the sharingan anyway.
@chriscollins3225
@chriscollins3225 Жыл бұрын
Nah he taught him that to persuade him away from the curse mark
@ryanbenedict2754
@ryanbenedict2754 Жыл бұрын
@@gamerookie09 Kakashi has over 1000 jutsu, aint no way theres no lightning release that he copied, imagine how awesome it is if kakashi has unli chakra then kakashi shadow cloned and every clone used a different jutsu
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I was thinking about Kakashi as a sensei the other day, more specifically I was thinking about what it would look like if you switched Kakashi and Master Roshi at the start of their respective mentorships. If you look at the fanfic interpretation of Kakashi's tutelage of team 7 you find a general opinion that he takes them on missions, lectures them on teamwork and otherwise ignores them. However if you actually stop to think about it (in the context of the genuine article) his hands off approach their technical skills actually makes sense, because he doesn't need to teach them how to use chakra or shuriken or taijutsu. Why? Because they've already been trained in that for several years. What they haven't learned is unit cohesion and group combat tactics. Which is exactly what he teaches them, plus tips and admonitions to help them get their minds and approach to situations right. Flashbacks in the anime also show that he did genuinely care about his students' wellbeing outside of work, like the one of him coming through Naruto's window with groceries. Kakashi is awesome.
@cliff402ful
@cliff402ful Жыл бұрын
The village system is messed up and honestly should’ve been destroyed.
@filipgasic2642
@filipgasic2642 Жыл бұрын
True. Wish Pain didn't backtrack so the Leaf could've learned a lesson
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 Жыл бұрын
As messed up as it was, there needed to be system in place to stop the warring states era. True wars became worse afterwards but it was the best possible solution Hashirama could come up with. It’s just not everyone was as compassionate and idealistic as Hashirama.
@cliff402ful
@cliff402ful Жыл бұрын
@@Vietmac1993 I agree that a solution was needed and no once could've had the foresight to see how things would play out. Personally I've always felt a united world government would be better for the Naruto world. Everyone being on the same side and no more divisions between countries since everyone would be on the same side.
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 Жыл бұрын
@@cliff402ful I agree. But it takes time for the world to be United. Problem was countries are too heavily driven by self interests for them to work together. It’s like the real world. There’s too much division in our world.
@cliff402ful
@cliff402ful Жыл бұрын
@@Vietmac1993 Yeah, it would definitely decades to centuries to get that to happen. I have the world government from One Piece in mind and I imagine when they first started it took decades to get order around the whole world.
@charmygreen665
@charmygreen665 Жыл бұрын
I love naruto so much. People that overlook it as a story really are missing something wonderful. Same for kato, yall never miss 🤘
@wesleylloyd3403
@wesleylloyd3403 Жыл бұрын
You put an amazing parallel into play when you said that kakashi failed, and realized he is simply a part of the human experience.
@stephj505
@stephj505 8 ай бұрын
"All of them are only thinking about themselves." Though to be fair, Naruto's goal is probably the most understandable because not only does he want the village's respect since he ostracized because he's the jinchuuriki but he's an underdog and that's why he's extremely motivated to be the Hokage.
@williambreeze2659
@williambreeze2659 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, this was pretty good!
@duckyh9712
@duckyh9712 Жыл бұрын
This was deep. Great vid. I didn’t expect this
@dengmandang
@dengmandang 11 ай бұрын
If Naruto ever got into trouble, like arrested or something crazy and he needed someone to come help him or bail him out and they gave him 1 phone call. Naruto is using the phone call to call Kakashi. He’s knows Kakashi quick, diligent, and he could definitely trust him with his whole life. Naruto wouldn’t call Jiraiya or Iruka
@nel9800
@nel9800 Жыл бұрын
so glad ur on my recommended i subbed
@FrffyVsBoredom
@FrffyVsBoredom Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. You two must be working like crazy to get all these videos out. I admire your efforts
@LingYao9001
@LingYao9001 Жыл бұрын
While he may not have been the "best teacher" I certainly don't think he was the worst either. The plot progression threw a lot of chaos his way and at least he never gave up on them. Hell he was the only other ninja left awake after the infinite tsukuyomi hit. That's something. I kinda recall him saving their naive asses a few times. At least he never shirked his failures either. I can respect that.
@Prilliyo
@Prilliyo Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that Kakashi discovers the best way to train Naruto but basically ignores Naruto during all part 1 even before finding out about Jiraiya
@palinanavitskaya6133
@palinanavitskaya6133 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Sasuke was a more pressing issue
@Prilliyo
@Prilliyo Жыл бұрын
@@palinanavitskaya6133 Naruto did have the Akstsuki after him more pressing than a hickey
@hiddenleif6854
@hiddenleif6854 Жыл бұрын
such a good video bro. Your insights about this series are some of the best out of all the anime youtubers.
@3-dreticle826
@3-dreticle826 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular Opinion: Orochimaru is an EXCELLENT teacher. He turned Sasuke form upper level genin to Kage level Shinobi in 2.5 years. 🐐
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
Idk, I wouldn't want my teacher to be scheming on my body... literally or figuratively for that matter
@3-dreticle826
@3-dreticle826 Жыл бұрын
@@KatoBeyond Without Orochimaru Sasuke would be fodder. They showed in a filler time line what he would be if Itachi and Shisui trained him. Orochimaru put full effort into molding Sasuke regardless of his intentions.
@moe5177
@moe5177 Жыл бұрын
@@3-dreticle826 bro, that’s filler. It literally doesn’t matter what’s in filler. It’s not indicative of what would happen if x changes. They do random shit without thinking to pad the anime. And mate, if he was taught by ITACHI (who makes Orochimaru his bitch with just a fucking glance) he would be far stronger.
@xci_radio2211
@xci_radio2211 Жыл бұрын
Great teacher kinda Molester vibes though
@palinanavitskaya6133
@palinanavitskaya6133 Жыл бұрын
@@3-dreticle826 I don't know about that. Given Sasuke's immense desire for power, I feel like he would have continued trying if Orochimaru didn't get him anywhere. Given that and his talents, I think Sasuke would've become very powerful regardless.
@robfromdowntown4117
@robfromdowntown4117 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi was the anime version of quite quitting
@michaelb2948
@michaelb2948 Жыл бұрын
The real question is why does itachi lead sasuke down such a dark path when he is on the cusp of finding happiness in konoha, if his true goal was for sasuke to let go of his hatred.
@r.a.panimefan2109
@r.a.panimefan2109 Жыл бұрын
It's cuase itachi being good is a pretty big retcon
@r.a.panimefan2109
@r.a.panimefan2109 Жыл бұрын
A good retcon. It gave more depth. But it's blatant
@filipgasic2642
@filipgasic2642 Жыл бұрын
Well Sasuke still had to kill him at that point. I guess Itachi wanted 2 things that are opposites of eachother for Sasuke
@IIIISai
@IIIISai Жыл бұрын
Because itachi was brain dead for anything regarding sasuke
@laurence_lookmyr
@laurence_lookmyr Жыл бұрын
To put it as straightforward as possible, he needed sasuke to grow in power one way or another. Whether that was him knowingly (which I doubt) or unknowingly sending him down a dark road. Itachi knew that as soon as he died Danzo, Orochimaru, and Madara were coming for sasuke at the bare minimum. If he even let sasuke believe he was close to reaching him, or to lose the spark all uchiha draw power from, he’d be as good as dead. People love to shout retcon without giving it a second thought but this seems to be the case. He didn’t even kill any of the shinobi who got in his way despite being capable to whenever he wanted. If he was intended to just be straight up evil Asuma, Kurenai, gai, and jiraya would all have died, that isn’t what happened though. Evidence: the series and the fact that that’s what actually happened, but sasuke was prepared and strong enough to deal with at least two of the three.
@theodorsebastian4272
@theodorsebastian4272 Жыл бұрын
I still salty that Kakashi not stronger,He should have enough potential to get to Tobimaru level.
@hokagesama3394
@hokagesama3394 Жыл бұрын
Dayuuum i find myself agreeing with you all the time even though I didn't have the smarts to realize all these points myself. Very well done again.
@onlyoneverde
@onlyoneverde Жыл бұрын
The more I get older and understand I'm finding more KZbinrs to watch ❤️🙌🏿
@mohammadalfattal2902
@mohammadalfattal2902 Жыл бұрын
what a beautiful analysis
@sicilianmammalian
@sicilianmammalian Жыл бұрын
Kakashi wasn’t the worst teacher he was actually pretty progressive about keeping them within the zone of proximal development
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi: Teaches Sasuke Chidori, Gai Style Taijutsu, + Imparts on him the value of teamwork Kakashi: Teaches Naruto chakra form and nature, Teaches Naruto Rasenshuriken, Teaches Naruto how to train effectively using Shadow Clones, Teaches Naruto about the Will of Fire. Kakashi: Teaches Sakura about Genjutsu resistance, Teaches Sakura about the brutality of battle, Teaches Sakura basic chakra control that allowed her to begin medical training. I honestly think calling Kakashi a bad teacher is really really stupid. Especially when comparingwhat he taught Team 7 to what tv's other jonin taught there teams as far as we know. Gai taught Lee gates but Neji learned gentle fist from his family and ten ten doesn't know anything, Kurenai is a Genjutsu specialist yet none of her students know any genjutsu. Azuma helped his students a lot but he died lmao. So what makes kakashi a bad teacher? Its a dumb point to try and make
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the academy curriculum is a joke. Seriously compare the education system to other shows. To graduate the ninja academy, students need to master a simple clone jutsu, plus basic ninja skills. Really? Look at Harry Potter. At least Wizards were trained in a variety of areas. The academy should not be letting 12 year olds go out into a world where they risk their lives with little to no skills. At least have them graduate at 16. They needed more time to develop actual skills. Chakra control exercises like tree walking and water walking could have been easily done in the academy. Also, train students in their respective elements. The academy could have offered more elective courses like genjutsu, medical ninjutsu, Fuinjutsu, and using weapons like swords, staffs, nunchucks. That way ninjas could be better prepared for the real world.
@rydercdaniels4475
@rydercdaniels4475 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Something that should be required for all the academy students to know before graduation should that they should know at least one basic element chakra nature & chakra control at least before graduating
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 Жыл бұрын
@@rydercdaniels4475 I honestly question how Tobirama or Hashirama designed the curriculum. There are fanfictions that stated how civilian councils made the academy so easy civilians can pass them. I am pretty sure those two would at least make it difficult so ninjas can be prepared for war.
@u140550
@u140550 Жыл бұрын
Ok now I see your point, good thoughts; and great video.
@ShadaOfAllThings
@ShadaOfAllThings Жыл бұрын
Hey, hey, even if you don't wanna fully count it as on him, Kakashi also failed to get Sakura to anything close to the level he should have were he mediocre. She basically gets ignored by him until she goes and finds someone to teach her
@jasonmoukala8909
@jasonmoukala8909 Жыл бұрын
She showed basically no potential in the original series
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
I'll play Devil's Advocate here. Not every ninja grows up to be a jonin, some are even lifelong genin in canon. With that in mind I think that her growth in part one isn't too bad. Kakashi did show Sakura her strong points as a shinobi, which were her studious nature and her chakra control. He also knew about her desire to be close to Sasuke and protect him, and used that to encourage her. Those traits are instrumental in her becoming a medical ninja and ultimately succeeding Tsunade.
@ShadaOfAllThings
@ShadaOfAllThings Жыл бұрын
@@KatoBeyond I'm gonna be honest, if I was Kakashi's student in Sakura's shoes, I'd feel like I was cheated out of a proper education and feel relieved someone was willing to pick up the slack. Edit 25 seconds later: Actually no, I've actually been in that situation, with teachers who wanted to make me a teacher's pet no less. Its shitty to feel abandoned by authority figures that you will straight up be told are supposed to help you shape the rest of your life. Anyone who's been through that and didn't fall for the bullshit teacher worship knows that and is likely still bitter over the affects it has had on their life. I can't imagine how it would be different in a situation where your life is being shaped for facing life and death situations on a regular basis.
@oneofgodschildren8361
@oneofgodschildren8361 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi taught Naruto how to use his shadow clones to learn much more and faster
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 Жыл бұрын
He could have taught him that much sooner instead of waiting 3 years
@notyourdaddude1957
@notyourdaddude1957 Жыл бұрын
@@Vietmac1993 Yeah i don't really understand why he didn't taught him that sooner though, Kakashi pretty much ignored Naruto in the first series probably because he didn't expected too much of him, so maybe it was because he didn't thought Naruto will ever reach such a high level in order to learn a powerful technique? i don't know lol.
@kiratwo4u
@kiratwo4u 4 ай бұрын
blame the writer not the drawing you doofos
@titansshallreturn5894
@titansshallreturn5894 3 ай бұрын
Teaching and telling is different thing
@jogostradicionais553
@jogostradicionais553 Жыл бұрын
nice video
@Reality-Distortion
@Reality-Distortion Жыл бұрын
11:20 Kishimoto in databook said that the Exams Sasuke is Gaara's strongest opponent yet. Forgive my well achktually
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
All is forgiven, Sasuke is definitely stronger than Lee by the end of the Chunin Exams
@arkaan.zomei2023
@arkaan.zomei2023 9 ай бұрын
He's an extremely efficient sensei just look at it sasuke got whooped by lee but with kakashi's training he literally made gaara bleed something lee failed to do
@IIIISai
@IIIISai Жыл бұрын
Jiraya was a better teacher to Naruto than kakashi, if only kakashi connected like that to sasuke
@ITRiBUTEI
@ITRiBUTEI Жыл бұрын
You have to look at the whole story in context. His character as a kid, his ideology, and everything he was trained to do until right before becoming a teacher. He was an assassin still in his young age with a pretty negative outlook on the world. Where as compared to Jiraiya, basically summarizing it with, he was offered the role of hokage, who had also trained the 4th Hokage. He was on another level. Kakashi kind of grew with his own students in a way. He matured through Naruto and Sasuke as apposed to being the father figure like Jiraya
@IIIISai
@IIIISai Жыл бұрын
@@ITRiBUTEI nice analysis
@Dreamer-tp8le
@Dreamer-tp8le Жыл бұрын
Kakashi is a genius and a good ninja but everyone can't be a teacher . I think he is not a teacher type person he spent most of his time in Anbu .he teach team 7 because it was destined to otherwise he would reject them like other kids if he can .he is even less attached to team 7 like kurenai know about Akamarus ( dog of kiba) behaviour and hinanta, guy is a father to lee and Asuma is great but Kakashi spend most of the time reading pervy books.
@RizAniki
@RizAniki 2 ай бұрын
Sasuke looks like a Slim Thug and Pimp C
@amandahuang4850
@amandahuang4850 Жыл бұрын
Omg I’ve been saying this! Kakashi is a great character but such a bad teacher. He lacked the emotional stability/maturity and teaching methods which make sense considering he went frm Anbu captain to three 12 year olds.
@Redpoppy80
@Redpoppy80 Жыл бұрын
I think another problem is that he really was a prodigy but this also left him scratching his head for ways to teach people without his ridiculous acumen. Naruto is quite comparable to a child with Aspergers or some other named developmental disorder which really requires abstract and yet direct methods of teaching. Sakura was not a gifted ninja and frankly didn't think of ninjas as anything more then getting laid. And failed Sasuke the most because he was the one most like Kakashi. Kakashi wanted Sasuke to see that revenge was just destructive to those who pursue it but failed to understand that revenge was the ONLY thing keeping Sasuke going, so giving that up would mean that he didn't have a reason to live anymore and also that Itachi was also a threat to the people that Kakashi wanted Sasuke to serve but just ignore that part. Yeah, no. Kakashi was traumatized by the Ninja world itself, but Sasuke was traumatized by a single person that was still a threat to come after him and his loved ones again.
@Darkkent83
@Darkkent83 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the premise and title, but great video nonetheless. Subscribed!
@dylanwheeler284
@dylanwheeler284 Жыл бұрын
I really thought that Kakashi had gotten through to Sasuke when he talked about everyone he loved already being dead but then he just ignores that fact and ditches anyway TnT
@blurryperson2685
@blurryperson2685 Жыл бұрын
I gotta agree. Kakashi was barely there for Naruto. Jiraiya picked up the slack there
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi: Teaches Sasuke Chidori, Gai Style Taijutsu, + Imparts on him the value of teamwork Kakashi: Teaches Naruto chakra form and nature, Teaches Naruto Rasenshuriken, Teaches Naruto how to train effectively using Shadow Clones, Teaches Naruto about the Will of Fire. Kakashi: Teaches Sakura about Genjutsu resistance, Teaches Sakura about the brutality of battle, Teaches Sakura basic chakra control that allowed her to begin medical training. Barely there for Naruto? Are you crazy?
@MrSkullkid09
@MrSkullkid09 Жыл бұрын
@@prolastmedia6171 none of that was helpful compared to the stuff Guy taught his team
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSkullkid09 Lol youre right, he taught Neji how to not dodge wood, he taught Tenten to be the most useless Kunoichi in Konoha, and he taught Lee how to be weaker than Sasuke even w his gates. Nice Nice
@notyourdaddude1957
@notyourdaddude1957 Жыл бұрын
@@prolastmedia6171 Uhh, he didn't taught Naruto Rasenshuriken, that was a technique developed by Naruto himself when he trained, Kakashi only taught him what chakra nature he had, how to control it and how to use clone jutsu to train faster to learn a powerful technique, and that was AFTER 3 years have passed and we talking about the original series here. In the original series, Kakashi didn't taught him anything, Jiraiya was the one who took care of Naruto's training instead because Jiraiya asked that since Naruto was a special case for being a jinchuriki so it was harder to teach him something.
@chrisblanc663
@chrisblanc663 Жыл бұрын
Naruto reminds me of 100 years of solitude, where each generation makes similar mistakes to the generation before it.
@anonakkor9503
@anonakkor9503 Жыл бұрын
couldn`t agree more with the titel of this video!!!
@doujinloverXD
@doujinloverXD Жыл бұрын
I don't care if he didn't teach Sakura anything, because I don't like Sakura, but this post is not about hate its about practicality Asuka didn't teach Ino anything besides teamwork and neither did Kurenai. The fact is Salura's talents weren't applicable to anything he could 6each as a kunoichi usually has other skills and talents that must be honed on their own or by another kunoichi. My point is Sakura's destiny was NEVER genjutsu it was medical techniques and taijutsu(modified by medical enhancements), that's what she became good at and honestly Kakashi knows nothing about medical techniques. Even if she had a slight aptitude for genjutsu she likely would have just been mid tier at best and would never outshine Ino a Yamanaka at that so don't even try.
@444tuneski
@444tuneski Жыл бұрын
copier! love ur content kato
@provocateur140p5
@provocateur140p5 2 ай бұрын
This is a good video yes
@infamouscha
@infamouscha Жыл бұрын
Opened me to some new ideas.
@joeygula581
@joeygula581 Жыл бұрын
to be perfectly honest most of the strong story in this series are not good teachers minato's teacher is not good Naruto's teacher suck that doesn't mean you're weak just means they can't teach Naruto basically did everything himself the only thing he learned from the sage was his birthright
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi: Teaches Sasuke Chidori, Gai Style Taijutsu, + Imparts on him the value of teamwork Kakashi: Teaches Naruto chakra form and nature, Teaches Naruto Rasenshuriken, Teaches Naruto how to train effectively using Shadow Clones, Teaches Naruto about the Will of Fire. Kakashi: Teaches Sakura about Genjutsu resistance, Teaches Sakura about the brutality of battle, Teaches Sakura basic chakra control that allowed her to begin medical training. Kato: "Kakashi is a terrible teacher" LMAO WHAT?
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
@@sarveshnathan7559 you can't read?
@prolastmedia6171
@prolastmedia6171 Жыл бұрын
@@sarveshnathan7559 Lol well you're objectively wrong so there's no point in arguing, go bother someone else
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
He's not actually a bad teacher, he just had the least success in part one. He's basically fated to fail to protect Sasuke from the dark side( Orochimaru)
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
Tbf Sakura learned a lot in the Academy that she didn't actually internalize/know until Kakashi allowed her to experience it in a safe environment
@blackopspro6455
@blackopspro6455 Жыл бұрын
In defense of Kakashi, he prioritized Sasuke’s training because of the immediate threat of Orochimaru. Sakura doesn’t make it out of the prelims so Sasuke is further prioritized for his fight against Gaara. Kakashi realizes Naruto also needs training as he made it to the finals as well and Jiraiya is an even better teacher than he is so perfect . Literally right after the exams end Kakashi is put into a coma by Itachi so not much he can do there. They get Tsunade back and Sasuke immediately leaves the village. Kakashi really didn’t have the time to teach all of them during part 1
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
It's true, Kakashi thought he had more than a year to teach the three of them lol. Kakashi also knew that Naruto would be able to surpass Sasuke if he just perfected his fundamentals, so he gave him up to Ebisu. The fact that he was willing to let Naruto and Sakura train under the Sannin should be seen as a positive, not a negative. Kakashi realized he needed to get as strong as the past generation to lead the next one
@GearlessJoe0
@GearlessJoe0 Жыл бұрын
Why did you have to end the video by saying it was dumb? Now you make me feel dumb for thinking it was actually genius 😭
@guythat779
@guythat779 Жыл бұрын
kishimoto is no bad writer but he does fall in some areas since his goals are quite simple and not entirely fixated on the story his message is about people generally and his story is big amazing battles the exact details may get repeated every now and then, retconned, or may not be the most consistent or logical given the world it's based in and that's why for its flaws i still love naruto
@cheeher3212
@cheeher3212 Жыл бұрын
As bad as he Kakashi was, his one teaching for Naruto about Chakra nature would lead Naruto to learn more than Jira did in two years. Face the facts, 2 years with Jira did nothing. Only with Killer Bee was Naruto able to learn how to manifest his 9 Tails Chakra.
@3mKay
@3mKay Жыл бұрын
i dont think its necessary his fault, I doubt other ninja could have kept Team 7, we have a jinchurki and a Uchiha that is crazy about being powerful and revenge, basically the worst team any teacher could have gotten. After Naruto met Jiraiya, Sasuke surely need to find someone at that level in order to surpass Naruto and defeat Itachi, and Sakura need someone similar to catch up, its sort of Kakashi's misfortune to get this combo. Besides, he did lay the groundwork for Team 7 to remember that friends are the most important, which subtlety affect Naruto and Sasuke's behavior. and he manage to prevent tons of academy graduates that didnt understand that to become genin, saving a lot of lives. Its unfair to compare him to Asuma as they already have the 3 clan combo early on, solving their teamwork issue even before they form the genin team, while Team 7 are totally incompatible right from the start, and Kakashi doesnt have long to teach them either before he is knock out by Itachi and then Sasuke left with Sound 4
@kharirichards
@kharirichards Жыл бұрын
You said it perfectly! Many think Kakashi was playing favorites with Sasuke, and he neglected Naruto & Sakura.
@Sg190th
@Sg190th Жыл бұрын
I'd say Kakashi learned more as a sensei. I believe his team healed him slowly. Look at him now. No more depression, self-hatred, etc. I agree with no Kakashi slander but you should say that to all character slander. I don't like the Naruto fandom much due to their monkey brains.
@joeygula581
@joeygula581 Жыл бұрын
actually kakashi never cope with it he just kind of moves forward through days it wasn't until like Naruto showed up and it's like he found a reason for living he just kind of existed before that it's actually not a good representation of a loyal Shinobi he's loyal because he doesn't know how not to be in a way Sasuke was very grown up about leaving I have no intention of putting the village above myself say what you want at least it's honest
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 Жыл бұрын
He never honored Minato's dying wish by taking care of Naruto. Neither did Tsunade or Jiraiya.
@laquasiasheppard6084
@laquasiasheppard6084 Жыл бұрын
Tsunade is the one that taught sakura, jiraiya is the one that taught naruto. Kakashi tried to teach sasuke but we all know how that went.
@so_h_am
@so_h_am 8 ай бұрын
Jiraya ain't taught sh!t to Naruto.
@ItsShaz1
@ItsShaz1 Жыл бұрын
Ayyy
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Жыл бұрын
Bee and Jiraiya were better teachers lol and thats just for one characters lets not talk about the other shit
@Seasonal-Shadow_4674
@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Жыл бұрын
I want Rob from RTTV to react to this
@aanthonyy_
@aanthonyy_ Ай бұрын
Kakashi is just my all time GOAT when it comes to this manga, he's the coolest, dopest jutsus, nicest nickname, always one of the strongest in the verse no matter what part of the manga (except boruto maybe i wouldn't know, fuck boruto) and he has the most charisma 🔥
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Ай бұрын
Facts
@FallenFrosty
@FallenFrosty Жыл бұрын
Kakashi is one of the best teachers in the verse with the exception of maybe hiruzen and minato
@zarz3049
@zarz3049 6 ай бұрын
L take
@joeygula581
@joeygula581 Жыл бұрын
he's actually not a good teacher though he totally picked favorites now I know that he didn't actually pick favorites but when you train one of them and show them techniques and then completely ignore the other I'm sorry you're not a good teacher he's almost a good teacher
@alex52043
@alex52043 11 ай бұрын
Naruto's power doesn't come from the will to protect, he's got a demon in his stomach!
@sir_tfc
@sir_tfc Жыл бұрын
Great take and everything and not to be rude just trying to be helpful, try some more enthusiasm just a little so its not like completely monotone the whole video, but great video love the reasoning
@tehemail.7062
@tehemail.7062 Жыл бұрын
Nah, Minato is the worst teacher. His complete neglect for all of his students is essentially the cause of the 4th great ninja war.
@KFordmusic
@KFordmusic Жыл бұрын
11:35 you mean he didn’t have the 9 tails 😂
@jasonpower6578
@jasonpower6578 Жыл бұрын
what do you mean when you say "sometimes the traits that made people open up to us become a cause of resentment."
@KatoBeyond
@KatoBeyond Жыл бұрын
In this case, it's Naruto's strength which made Sasuke recognize him and later made him resent him.
@obezy8705
@obezy8705 Жыл бұрын
"Each member of team 7 has important goal" Meanwhile Sakura: "My dream is to marry Sasuke"
@winglessmecha
@winglessmecha Жыл бұрын
Kakashi mastered 1000 jutsus and he couldn't teach a single one to Sakura or Naruto. Everyone calls her useless but refuse to acknowledge the fact she was failed by her shitty teacher.
@thomasflorez6602
@thomasflorez6602 Жыл бұрын
If Kakashi would have got them to talk to each other he would have been a better teacher, In the Valley of the end fight Naruto calls Sasuke his brother the second time they fight there and Sasuke Ignores it because Orochimaru was in his head and Naruto was ignored by Sasuke until their final fight because Kakashi was more worried about getting them stronger than getting the bond between each teammate strongeryou can't change my mind BTW no hate to Kakashi but if he would have been more focused on teamwork exercises Sasuke probably wouldn't have left until he was a teenager and more proficient with the Rikiri
@kylemonkiewicz2803
@kylemonkiewicz2803 Жыл бұрын
it was kakashi idea to use clone to help naruto perfect the resangan
@holly-hobbiest3141
@holly-hobbiest3141 Жыл бұрын
@kato tha k you for saying kakashi is the worst teacher
@takatotakasui8307
@takatotakasui8307 4 ай бұрын
2:52 😂
@Dacky1989
@Dacky1989 Жыл бұрын
Uchihas are Haïtians I have been convinced of this.
@marig9236
@marig9236 Жыл бұрын
I love KaKashi
@SKVLE
@SKVLE 3 ай бұрын
As always in life, it is not due to one pivotal flaw or mishap. Kakashi was 26-27 during the first era of Naruto. He was still learning how to convey his ideals and most importantly, how to interpret his student’s downsides. A lot of unfortunate events unraveled during Team 7’s development which led to Sasuke leaving the village. Ultimately, I think there is no denying that Kakashi also made mistakes but the situation every member of that team faced didn’t contribute to finding the right path. I would love to see your opinions on this.
@CJ-111
@CJ-111 Жыл бұрын
One of the best characters in all of Naruto
@RubyAPBT
@RubyAPBT Жыл бұрын
I think this was more a Hiruzen problem. Because Kakashi social skill is as good as a bull flying. He got 3 problematic children and had no idea how help them. But in shippuden he get better, he bond a lot more with Naruto and still try to help Sasuke, I guess only Sakura was not that close to him.
@goldgate0076
@goldgate0076 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi prolly one of the best teachers cause all his students got over their initial weakness. Lee never learned to beat neji
@darudesandstorm072
@darudesandstorm072 Жыл бұрын
I mean you're wrong, this is definitely clickbait because in any great team the leader CANNOT be awful. He can be average but the worst leader? I disagree. It's also unlikely he's an average leader, instead I'd say he developed with the rest of the team but then every good teacher develops with their students.
@kylemonkiewicz2803
@kylemonkiewicz2803 Жыл бұрын
kakashi was an extremly intellgient teacher
@apfly6964
@apfly6964 Жыл бұрын
Kakashi is honestly the best written character
@Corncake1337
@Corncake1337 Жыл бұрын
W
@MrSkullkid09
@MrSkullkid09 Жыл бұрын
Can we all agree kakashi is not a better teacher than Guy.
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