Why 2JZ blow up in Formula D, how to solve that.

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Lone Star Drift

Lone Star Drift

2 жыл бұрын

In this video we ask @raddandrift what makes his Supra reliable, and why do other Formula D 2JZ blow up?! The 2JZ is known for being stupid reliable, but there are also teams within Formula Drift that have blown half a dozen motors within a few months inside the series. I thought it would be super neat to cover the subject. We at some point in this series talk about the best place to stop for useable horse power, which he thinks is SPOILER ALERT, somewhere around 800 to have a useable fun power band. We talk about oiling systems for the JZ motors, stroker motors, why the 3.0 is better than the 3.4 and 3.6 displacements, and all kins of stuff. It isn't every day that you get to get inside the head of someone that has so much experience within the automotive industry, so I really appreciate dan taking the time to share things with us! Check out his KZbin channel at @RADIndustries and tell him hi in the comments!!!

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@joshc9846
@joshc9846 2 жыл бұрын
This video really opened my eyes on Rad Dan. He's very humble and knowledgable
@jetsetdnb
@jetsetdnb 2 жыл бұрын
i'm so happy Aaron is doing these with him, i don't think he gets anywhere close to the respect he deserves
@Thee1Muffin
@Thee1Muffin 2 жыл бұрын
If you get a chance to go to a fd engine, talk to him in the pits. He’s a awesome guy.
@filipkarlsson6945
@filipkarlsson6945 2 жыл бұрын
could not have said it better!
@scottsopko7220
@scottsopko7220 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is one of the few people that you see on KZbin that is exactly the same way in front of your face. He’s always willing to engage with fans and to the level you choose when you open your mouth.
@vvs6777
@vvs6777 2 жыл бұрын
the peoples champ
@1jzhardbody545
@1jzhardbody545 2 жыл бұрын
So true! Same with Mike essa! Mike legit sat there fir like 45 minutes talking bmws and drifting with me
@filsilva7213
@filsilva7213 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do like 13 more videos with Dan. I don't think i would ever own a 2jz but it's so fun to listen to him talk about them.
@fjm9898
@fjm9898 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Dan's Channel
@LoneStarDrift
@LoneStarDrift 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah check out Dan's channel!
@filsilva7213
@filsilva7213 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneStarDrift i follow his channel as well, but your interviews are great, you usually ask the hard questions and pull out the behind the scenes stuff like what you asked in this video "who blew up engines and why"
@shaun54
@shaun54 2 жыл бұрын
Cant beat the jz, but believe it or not around 70% of the cars in D1NZ are RB powered & you almost never see an engine fail during competition 👍
@zerohourdrift
@zerohourdrift 2 жыл бұрын
The whole “rb’s are unreliable” stipulation is honestly due to people here in the states cheating out on parts and just lack of knowledge. Down under they’ve got a much better amount of parts and knowledge. Look at Jake drift squid. His s13 had a near stock neo in it for years and he never blew it
@lw1878
@lw1878 2 жыл бұрын
@@zerohourdrift To be fair literally everyone around the world had access to RBs and RBs parts a decade or more before the US got them.
@Inweezy
@Inweezy 2 жыл бұрын
@@lw1878 I was about to say that , literally rbs are a little complicated to us bc we don’t have that much experience with them compared to the rest of the world
@Boostlifelex
@Boostlifelex 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because the drift RB’s have mechanical pumps and dry sumps …these dudes are slapping turbo kits on and hitting the top level of competitors
@zerohourdrift
@zerohourdrift 2 жыл бұрын
@@Boostlifelex yeahhhhhh....name one jz car in pro drifting that’s just a “turbo kit” lmao rb or jz, they’re all built ass expensive engines
@kelvinturner2747
@kelvinturner2747 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, first Rad Dan interview I’ve watched before. I am blown away how knowledgeable yet humble Dan is. Goals.
@Baksteen_Express
@Baksteen_Express 2 жыл бұрын
Some way he gives off a more janky vibe. But this definitely guy knows his stuff
@diamaangueye7939
@diamaangueye7939 2 жыл бұрын
This has been my favorite interview on the channel so far, so much information packed in that time, didn’t even feel like 17min. I wanted it to be longer. Rad Dan is Rad. I wonder what his thoughts are on the SR lol
@LoneStarDrift
@LoneStarDrift 2 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of Rad Dan videos in the channel, and at least one or two I filmed that I still need to release. Thanks for watching! And thanks to Dan for taking the time to chat with us!
@JohnnyWooh
@JohnnyWooh 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, i could listen to him for hours and not get bored. Such a chill dude.
@jhxzzy863
@jhxzzy863 2 жыл бұрын
Basically oil starvation and revving it too high.
@adriane7841
@adriane7841 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the cliff notes
@Kinganytime
@Kinganytime 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this more than I thought I would.
@Beezy_Builds
@Beezy_Builds 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@dubbleA100
@dubbleA100 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Gary watching KZbin like us 😎💪🏿
@sunnyblumen3807
@sunnyblumen3807 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly him comparing the 7M to the RB made my year. I am building a 12:1 7MGE Supra Mk3 for drifting. I already know the fun oil and HG issues, but 7M's are starting to become popular again and I prefer to have pure-bred Supra Mk3 as well.
@jayveethreefive5214
@jayveethreefive5214 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone I’ve seen thrash a 7M has blown a head gasket! Is that due to oiling or something else?
@LoneStarDrift
@LoneStarDrift 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayveethreefive5214 They learned a lot of lessons on the 7M and used those to build the 2JZ, which solved pretty much everything you would need to fix about the 7M.
@sunnyblumen3807
@sunnyblumen3807 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayveethreefive5214 it’s due to wrong torque spec on head bolts from factory and shitty gaskets. Also the oil pump does need a couple upgrades to be efficient. Once you add upgraded oil pressure relief spring, less restrictive oil line, MLS head gasket and ARP head studs you’re pretty solid.
@gkinghsmith9352
@gkinghsmith9352 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! Great talk guys.
@jt.124
@jt.124 2 жыл бұрын
such an amazing talk w dan. so insightful
@MrOnemorerene
@MrOnemorerene 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, thank you both for the great content! I never thought of drysupm vs back or front one in this way. Great I do have e36 with back one :)
@astonmarjo
@astonmarjo 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is Power.... Thanks Rad industries glad I found this video.💯🏁🏁🏁👍
@freedomlifemake2579
@freedomlifemake2579 2 жыл бұрын
its always great to listen to someone that has so much knowledge about something
@cujarrett
@cujarrett Жыл бұрын
Just found this, super cool video. Thanks for putting it together.
@alistairhennessey886
@alistairhennessey886 2 жыл бұрын
I love how happy Dan was thinking about possibly exploding a block. 🤘
@undertreemechanic
@undertreemechanic 2 жыл бұрын
By far my favourite episode! That immense knowledge. Love him, wish he has more skills tho, hope he gets some podiums.
@SunBitSynergy
@SunBitSynergy 2 жыл бұрын
It's not negative if it's helpful to others, They lived through the experience the least we can do is learn from that.
@merkantelismo
@merkantelismo 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota had help from a motorcycle engine manufacturer. And motorcycle engines are known to live happily in the high rpms reliably. Much like what honda has done for their engines.
@clonecaptian
@clonecaptian 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha didn't help with the 2jz only the 1jz
@aftrnoon_ac
@aftrnoon_ac 2 жыл бұрын
@@clonecaptian They did with the 2J as well
@mr2_mike
@mr2_mike 2 жыл бұрын
@@clonecaptian also the 3S-GTE head design.
@timelessdave
@timelessdave 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Rad Dan you the man! Thank you!
@raphaelad123
@raphaelad123 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this I learned a lots of things
@rickvang7313
@rickvang7313 2 жыл бұрын
Rad Dan is one of the most underrated in FD. Jack of all trades being a owner operator and driver. I meet him at Vegas Drift one time. Humble dude.
@resteasy3941
@resteasy3941 2 жыл бұрын
love the tech talks
@Zekesaxman
@Zekesaxman 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, bringing some light to the massive flow of car fans making the market go crazy!
@crc_fab2372
@crc_fab2372 2 жыл бұрын
You know someone knows their shit when they use complex hand movements. 10/10
@WillCouch
@WillCouch 2 жыл бұрын
so rad thanks for making this
@blaznmax8877
@blaznmax8877 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved rad Dan. Under the radar legend
@SethDavis96
@SethDavis96 2 жыл бұрын
More please !!!
@Skatinsince1997
@Skatinsince1997 2 жыл бұрын
James Deane said you don't need a oil catch can if your 2JZ is built right.
@tomfnyep6929
@tomfnyep6929 2 жыл бұрын
Rad Dan is such a awesome dude. He knows the JZ motors inside and out
@Yernaritsbarry
@Yernaritsbarry 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan T had machine issues , they had line bored the main caps off. Also having the cars strung out that far i doubt many teams have engine protection enabled like hard or soft cut to save the engine
@SKOMPAS
@SKOMPAS 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure this is mentioned somewhere in the video and I just missed it but Rad Dan doesn’t just rev his engines lower but also he used to not run VVT so even if the rev limit was high it makes no power up there so would never be banging off the rev limiter
@patricklaporte180sx
@patricklaporte180sx 2 жыл бұрын
Very intesrting can you doo a video for SR20DET problème what too doo witch part we need or not etc ?
@patrickbevacqua7660
@patrickbevacqua7660 2 жыл бұрын
LZ Grenada’s like 4 or 5 last year and melted a piston this year. Also in prospec Ricky Hoffmann blew a piston out the block this year, which was strange
@timkramer4008
@timkramer4008 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved a built high reving 3.0 2JZ. Obviously better power with 3.4 but nowhere near as good sound wise as the stock 3.0.
@bigbothoee8617
@bigbothoee8617 2 жыл бұрын
2.09 lol I've got experience in that using old oil coolers again you can do it but needs to be stripped back thermostats removed
@traderryan713
@traderryan713 2 жыл бұрын
That was cool as hell. Its a good ? if some stuff is engineered and has full understanding prior of how good or bad it will be. So much goes into that, but a little luck for sure.
@shawnroxby3257
@shawnroxby3257 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why my turbo sc300 felt so solid rear sump jz ftw!
@karolk7044
@karolk7044 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated engine M104 Make the same power with stock pistons
@SAPOJETSBMX
@SAPOJETSBMX 2 жыл бұрын
So regarding the front oil sump swaps like the Cressida and 240 and others chassis that require a front oil sump at what horse power would you recommend adding extra oil if we don’t run an external oil pump?
@dilsher12
@dilsher12 2 жыл бұрын
Extra oil and a good baffle system in the sump go a long way
@mtanski1
@mtanski1 2 жыл бұрын
The filming and production quality on these last few videos is a huge step-up. What did you guys do?
@blarge1513
@blarge1513 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is rad, I wish he could more seat time.
@lw1878
@lw1878 2 жыл бұрын
It may just be car setup. Kyle Mohan was looking like why are you running for 5 years+ until they changed something in his setup and he finally became competitive.
@ryanlowe3588
@ryanlowe3588 2 жыл бұрын
Gas racing in Australia exploded a block, took 70psi to do it…I had a r32 GTR, the RB was a pain… once you get around 600hp you start having drama… even the blocks can crack at 6-800hp… they suffer from key walk and need the crack modded and heaps of other stuff… I did cam, turbo and fuel mine made 700whp on a 6466 on my 2j
@nvz1026
@nvz1026 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Danel back at it again with the 2jz 🛼
@jetsetdnb
@jetsetdnb 2 жыл бұрын
Dan being SO NICE about the RBs that face lmfao
@supraculture
@supraculture 2 жыл бұрын
Rad Dan & 2JZ FTW!
@DxWhoopingCrane
@DxWhoopingCrane 2 жыл бұрын
More than half the D1gp field run 2JZ strokers, 3.6 liter on huge turbo etc crazy setups. I dont think I recall a single one blowing up all season. Its all about sticking to engines you know.
@schassis_eddi
@schassis_eddi 2 жыл бұрын
Inspirational, I’m not even a JZ guy but love hearing his perspective on his approach!
@Daniel-RunToRoyal
@Daniel-RunToRoyal 2 жыл бұрын
7M=RB! 😂😂😂 Love it!!! Also, so the 2JZGTE takes 5.3 quarts of oil, will adding 6 even quarts hurt anything?
@FaworDrifts
@FaworDrifts 2 жыл бұрын
I literraly wanted to say near very end, that you should ask about Adam's engines :D And boom. Adam was iron block 3,4 with wet sump and as I good remember he was not revving very high, but fast Dan's answer with front sump explains a lot....and overall, Worthouse engines in Peter's car were not so reliable as many think ;)
@eddy00006
@eddy00006 6 ай бұрын
hey what turbo ist good for drift and what AR on turbo is good? (0,84ar oder 1,00 ar?) grats from germany
@sn95roots21
@sn95roots21 2 жыл бұрын
That can be applied to all vehicles/motors.
@williamguldager
@williamguldager 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy has a 2JZ driftcar with all stock 2jzgte with single turbo conversion, E85. Has ran for 10 years now xD
@MattShulman
@MattShulman 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love jz's
@jeremykion5244
@jeremykion5244 2 жыл бұрын
im convinced rad dan is the reason my rb hasn't knocked yet. rear sump, external head drain, conservative tune.
@Tailored_Creations
@Tailored_Creations Жыл бұрын
Lol when he compared the RB to a 7M 😂😂
@felixbb1445
@felixbb1445 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan literal punching the air right now
@aftrnoon_ac
@aftrnoon_ac 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Cuz Literal is an RB guy? and he wants to try a different inline six?
@supraculture
@supraculture 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂
@felixbb1445
@felixbb1445 2 жыл бұрын
@@aftrnoon_ac I am a rb/Nissan fan (fav motor ca18det), but if u ever seen a Ryan insta post or whatever, he will fight til his death if u say that a jz is better then a rb lol.
@ferdis7
@ferdis7 2 жыл бұрын
more dan content :)
@driftcrash2286
@driftcrash2286 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Deane, James’ brother is responsible for the reliability. I’d very much put that down the the families rallying history.
@zxKrookedxz
@zxKrookedxz 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on sr or ka
@michaelarnel2083
@michaelarnel2083 2 жыл бұрын
Make a ls version of this video, would be helpful!!!!!
@mrkouki180sx
@mrkouki180sx 2 жыл бұрын
LOL ive done the gear oil trick once just to get me home from the track back in 2011
@scottchelmford7136
@scottchelmford7136 2 жыл бұрын
The 2jz is modeled off the 7m..the 7m had teething issues but with the right mods it can be rreliable
@leastanworth5501
@leastanworth5501 2 жыл бұрын
Rad Dan is the best!
@XxXixixiXxX
@XxXixixiXxX 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if an aftermarket oil pan baffle will help the possible starvation on front sump oil pans? Or are they a gimmick?
@festa289
@festa289 2 жыл бұрын
A well designed gated / baffled sump will help 100%. It may keep oil at the pickup just long enough to save the engine
@OhThatsHilarious
@OhThatsHilarious 2 жыл бұрын
Do the sr20 next!
@evanrummel4717
@evanrummel4717 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know if a stroker can be run to higher rpms if it’s in a billet block?
@exvils
@exvils 2 жыл бұрын
10:38 do you have shimless buckets from hilux?
@Charlie-Charlot
@Charlie-Charlot 2 жыл бұрын
An interview with Kyle Mohan on why he still runs a 3rotor would be interesting too
@LoneStarDrift
@LoneStarDrift 2 жыл бұрын
I already have it in the channel! Search for rotary or Kyle Mohan in here
@snoopysmx5257
@snoopysmx5257 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so interesting hearing about how formula D cars a built
@amarnewen6267
@amarnewen6267 2 жыл бұрын
What year did Ryan blow 3 motors at Irwindale
@hdoglesby
@hdoglesby 2 жыл бұрын
First time I've heard the RB compared to a 7M 😂
@lw1878
@lw1878 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is indeed rad.
@RHBTurbochargers
@RHBTurbochargers 2 жыл бұрын
dry sump is always the answer
@alexanderberg9588
@alexanderberg9588 2 жыл бұрын
Almost at 100k!!!! Wahoo! Praise the Lord!!
@jensledel6659
@jensledel6659 2 жыл бұрын
Soo uhm, what about 1Js? As someone who is in the midst of building theirs Id love some of this deep info to know if theres anything I could do different while Im tearing at it
@robvanderkroft6515
@robvanderkroft6515 2 жыл бұрын
James deanes brother built the workhouse engines and all of James motors and he very rarely has motor issues
@TurbineResearch
@TurbineResearch 2 жыл бұрын
Let's juice this down. Bottom line when you spend money on a big boi car dont cheap out. Just get a dry sump.
@despizedicon
@despizedicon 2 жыл бұрын
Common Sense goes a long way. This is why Dan is Rad.
@joshc9846
@joshc9846 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning boys Hope y'all have a good one!
@ethandonohoe
@ethandonohoe 2 жыл бұрын
Dans the man.
@streetstylez96
@streetstylez96 2 жыл бұрын
my rb20 lasted 10 years drifting at 400 hp. did 8-12 events a year
@LoneStarDrift
@LoneStarDrift 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get an RB20 over 400 WHP? I don't think I have ever seen anyone do that in person, but I have heard about it online, sounds interesting!
@gary9721
@gary9721 2 жыл бұрын
The only 2jz master is Jay from Real Street Performance
@madkas14
@madkas14 2 жыл бұрын
Jay the 2jz god🔥
@cookierageracing7052
@cookierageracing7052 2 жыл бұрын
The myth the man the legend and god of the 2j.
@madkas14
@madkas14 2 жыл бұрын
Jay from Real St. Is the 2j god imo.
@cookierageracing7052
@cookierageracing7052 2 жыл бұрын
@@madkas14 I agree I also watch all his stuff and learn from him they are gods of the 2j.
@AestheticsKartel
@AestheticsKartel 2 жыл бұрын
Then there is guys like Taylor ray who just splash on the dry sump right away and don’t really have any issues at all
@mrreplay4355
@mrreplay4355 2 жыл бұрын
U forgot to ask him about TJ's RB. :)
@shamalreddy685
@shamalreddy685 2 жыл бұрын
Tuerk feels exposed lol
@SunBitSynergy
@SunBitSynergy 2 жыл бұрын
I fit 7.5Q in my 1uz
@dean9316
@dean9316 2 жыл бұрын
Big sook litteral enters the chat...
@icedoutshef
@icedoutshef 2 жыл бұрын
Barra is king
@quonscott5108
@quonscott5108 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do rb next please
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 2 жыл бұрын
He'd never lol
@LoneStarDrift
@LoneStarDrift 2 жыл бұрын
@@clutchkickpj693 I already have a bunch of RB videos in the channel, I did them with Drift Squid and Kevin Lawrence. Just search Lone Star Drift and RB or something.
@WardinGames
@WardinGames 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think they really engineered all that much. You can swap so much from the bottom end on a 1j and 2j the similarities end with a taller deck height. Mostly the head work changed
@TheMiddleAmerican
@TheMiddleAmerican 2 жыл бұрын
Am I wrong or did Yamaha create the 2J? Honest question.
@slideways2004
@slideways2004 2 жыл бұрын
They did not create it. They only helped with the head design on the 1jz. Which Toyota used the same recipe for the 2jz.
@scottchelmford7136
@scottchelmford7136 2 жыл бұрын
They designed the head on the 3stge i believe
@StayFoul
@StayFoul 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is a mullet rocking goon, but he's actually a logical guy and thats cool as fuck.
@jyaj007
@jyaj007 Жыл бұрын
"If you don't know, now you know"
@elijahherman
@elijahherman 2 жыл бұрын
Let's goooOoO
@danhealy1153
@danhealy1153 2 жыл бұрын
James deanes brother Mike built the 2jz engines. And both the fd cars have the same engine as when built. In a video in his channel you can see the internals were mint after much abuse. James deanes first proper competition car his rx7 won championships all over the world with the factory rotary still in her today. You should come to Ireland for drift masters round 1. Plenty of videos to be made there for you
@DaleChapmanCornwall
@DaleChapmanCornwall 2 жыл бұрын
Rad Dan’s awfully rad
@davidmitchell8971
@davidmitchell8971 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video, Dan mentions that he knows the motor isn't the best in the series, but it's the motor that came in his car and he really likes to keep it pure bred. Is he referring to his motor not being the best of the JZ series of motors because he uses the Non VVTi 2JZ-GTE that came in the supra vs a VVTi 2JZ-GTE out of an Arristo or is he saying the 2JZ isn't the best motor in FD and there other motors that are better like an LS?
@DxWhoopingCrane
@DxWhoopingCrane 2 жыл бұрын
From the context it sounds like hes talking within the JZ line, because the interviewer asked if hes making any changes to his JZ setup specifically in the question. Could be wrong though
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