Why Afterbirth+ Was A Disappointment

[@vinnysuperg123]

To everyone coming to rewatch this video, there will be a Repentance video out within the next month or so. Am in the early process of taking notes and scriptwriting. If you are interested stick around and sub for it.

[@sasquatch.8]

Ok

[@MeedasGuy]

Nice

[@GhostIsAYandere]

already done that man,cant wait to see it!

[@fishingrod2253]

Lets gooooo

[@paweave9562]

*instant subscribe*

[@Luckydeath973]

I know nothing about Isaac, but i'd like to point out that i thought Isaac was a super easy game because i was playing it on a full potato and everything was literally slowed down to 0.75x the normal speed of the game and it made it not only easier to dodge but also shoot, which made the game boring to me, then i watched an actual play through and was like " that's weird, i didn't remember that boss to be hard " and then played it again on a new computer to realise i was actually absolutely terrible at the game and the lag carried me 200%. I don't know if it's fixed but it was quite unfortunate.

[@pengmaeda9908]

I have at least 800 hours

[@corinth9140]

@@pengmaeda9908 unrelated?

[@pengmaeda9908]

@@corinth9140 The M in your Pfp is unrelated.

[@corinth9140]

@@pengmaeda9908 that was unrelated

[@pengmaeda9908]

@@corinth9140 MHpfpfHAaaha.... .... My life is unrelated.

[@somethingfierce8859]

Afterbirth+ at launch was kinda shitty but after the booster packs and mods not disabling progress anymore, made it awesome. Greedier mode is still shit though.

[@JP-mr1hn]

It's not awesome, just not the terrible mess it was at launch imo

[@deryberrytwo7219]

I found out repetence disables mods on a regular save file so say if i wanted mods on a regular save file i have to have it only for mods and i wont be able to unlock anything

[@devthegoogleuser6198]

@@deryberrytwo7219 I know this is five months ago, but mods only disable achievements till you defeat Mom, and if that doesn't work for some reason, till you defeat Mom's Heart.

[@devthegoogleuser6198]

@BangBob I'm pretty sure it always works. Also it was five months ago at the time I replied to that comment

[@mrhappygoluckyjock]

You missed a tinted rock you.... sorry wrong channel

[@kanekieatsthatetopussybett2121]

He had a med kit too.

[@captaingeneric8530]

hutts! You watch him to?

[@chewiedog1]

Ayeverybody

[@Tremere]

mrhappygoluckyjock Scumegg

[@periachi4961]

Hutts and egghead

[@SoftTehCustomer]

Fun fact: During the development of TBOI Afterbirth+, Edmund McMillien wasn't around for most of the development due to personal life and other projects, meaning Nicalis had to develop it in house. Yeah that was pretty obvious

[@beefchopstick]

Funny how one person can change the impact of something, even if it is a game.

[@_obb_]

"Go play antibirth" Repentance: ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF

[@MikoOhneHose]

7 months later and it still hasn't been released yet

[@exetone]

@@MikoOhneHose I think afterbirth plus is a perfect example of why pushing a game out quickly isn't a good thing. Be patient

[@negatvecreep]

@@MikoOhneHose march 31

[@MikoOhneHose]

@@negatvecreep do we habe March 31st? Please first think then write

[@slickSkeptic]

@@MikoOhneHose Look on the steam page for the dlc.

[@majofps]

This video really resonates with me, I've been working on a large mod with a team for MONTHS-- since Afterbirth+ came out. The modding tools leave so much to be desired, the API is not good. Our mod's been in development hell due to this and other factors, and it's a shame because what we should have been able to complete months ago has taken ages, and on top of all of that, a lot of what we want to do isn't even possible.

[@vinnysuperg123]

majofps A lot of people have been commenting on this video "But it doesn't matter cause we still got a lot of good mods." The point of what I said is that we could have SO MUCH MORE if the tools actually fucking worked. It's a shame to hear about your mod, and if Nicalis got their heads out of their asses you coulda gotten it to work.

[@majofps]

Yeah, it really is too bad. In the past month or so we just resumed work on it, so that's good. Our previews to the mod gained a lot of traction nearly a year ago and we have a big Discord (so there is still interest), but we will be releasing the mod in a time where it seems Isaac modding is seemingly very slowed down. Great video btw, looking forward to seeing more content from you in the future.

[@allison3650]

'Ello 😅

[@TheKstrider]

majofps As long as a playable Guppy mod exists (in which it does), I think the mod tools are 11/10. My standards are very low when there's an adorable character involved.

[@sparkbag_]

The Binding of Isaac: Repentance DLC is coming this year and it's putting in the game content from Antibirth, fixing some issues, rebalancing Greedier mode, expanding the lore, and much, much more.

[@als_pals]

I haven't played in years, hoping to get back into the game when it comes out

[@baaadger]

I'm starting to get back into this game, and damn I just want Repentance for the balancing. Afterbirth+ stuff is killing me after having played with only Afterbirth for the longest time.

[@rainbowtheory8082]

I havent bought afterbirth+ on xbox because i dont want it to get on the way of my platinum god lmao

[@zyzdzy]

@Ananasowy Vlog so close...

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

@@baaadger repentance is antibirth + alt character forms. But it makes the game even harder then afterbirth+ so beware

[@hamsterman7895]

"Why Afterbirth plus was a complete dissapointment" * Antibirth's music playing in the background *

[@navivan768]

FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES THAT DELERIUM IS A GOOD BOSS Also the dark room allows you to do a re run Edit: this was 2 years ago I don’t really agree with delirium being really good. ngl the difficulty has very little to with skill and instead with being able to stop moving clockwise and instead moving counterclockwise. If mega satan had more health and boss armor then they would definitely be a better boss than deli And you can do a rerun as long as you get a win

[@John__Olive]

@@TheRealBatabii 1. delirium crumbles the unlock post it note and unlocks items depending on which character you do it with 2. once you finish 4 victory laps, you'll unlock the option to do it in front of the continue button without the dark room

[@SleepyMook]

NAVIVAN He’s a really good boss, the problem a lot of players have with him is how buggy he can be sometimes.

[@bamshablam5977]

@@John__Olive 3. after you unlock that shit theres nothing else to do there.

[@Pnwrat]

@@TheRealBatabii they do unlock shit. You have to play certain characters and beat him to unlock new stuff. Like Eden.

[@NewsofPE]

@@TheRealBatabii stfu, no one cares if he's "late", he has the right to answer whatever whenever

[@vinnysuperg123]

Wow, this fucko has ONLY 600 hours in Isaac? I have 3000 hours in Minecraft ALONE. AND DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON MY TERRARIA HOURS

[@RayanTheModder]

THE FIRST TIME I WATCH ANY OF YOUR VIDEOS AND I'M NOW A SUBSCRIBER Your full of creativity and sweet SWEET comedy

[@Zeckle11]

dad I have over 6k hours on isaac put up your fists (love ur vids btw, cannot agree more on this :/)

[@shade-akuma2734]

Its funny cause I do have more hours then that in terraria

[@Zeckle11]

that's so very sad

[@kmesh9]

vinnysuperg123 So true I want to kms

[@anrandomissachasappeared328]

Should have played it 6 more hours before realeasing the video, so close...

[@marcoscba2459]

who is wrong? im confused

[@Xiaolruc]

MarcosCBA 660 hours. Add six hours. Six hundred sixty-six.

[@sanstheskeleton4547]

It make 666

[@sasquatch.8]

Yes

[@newmoisturizer5054]

Finally, something that doesn't call AB+ bad by only bashing at Delirium, but by providing actual reasons.

[@vinnysuperg123]

New Moisturizer It's funny because like I said in the video, I actually think Delirium is a fun fight. My issues stem from how uninteresting and tedious the void is.

[@kingdoge1278]

Afterbirth + its not my fav dlc. but if its more content. i suppose i could still enjoy it

[@CaboosePootis]

can this stop appearing in my recommended i dont even olay minecrafyt htnak you

[@Kklag0]

Caboose Pootis same xdd I as in I want to die

[@Ian-tp1gq]

Kill me

[@josiahkey4929]

...

[@susanlyon6683]

R/ihadastroke

[@duke2]

Green Lamps r/ihavereddit

[@benjaminnewell5214]

yeah but letting modders get their item ideas official put into the game with the booster packs was cool

[@thevision3150]

But it's handled so poorly as well.

[@KyKiske97]

Originally promissed to release those once per month, yeah. Hell, I remember hearing that we were supposed to get another booster pack before the end of 2017, but nope.

[@benjaminnewell5214]

can we at least agree that it's a good concept just executed poorly?

[@leodonaghey9143]

It went to "monthly" to "bi-monthly-ish" to "only 5 are coming in total and it's taken them over a year." Apparently there's only 1 guy working on them, so I guess we should cut him some slack.

[@hoodedman6579]

+Leo Donaghey Cut him some slack, but don't cut Nicalis.

[@shork3168]

Although I thoroughly enjoyed every expansion including Afterbirth Plus, you made some interesting points which caught my attention and allowed me to see it from your point of view. I may disagree with your stance, but I understand why you hold it and I wish you the best of luck on your channel as a whole.

[@nahlies2382]

Same! although Ill have to agree with him on certain changes being made. Nerfing the hourglass and making greedier mode more of a "in the point of view of bum" than a "SOOOO MANY COINS" was stupid. plenty of other changes could've been made. like taking away restock or adding in items like piggybank or even fucking both. Love afterbirth+ overall and think that the void character is very fun and I love how he unlocks the trinket smelter for you!

[@lordvgames]

At least with steam you can disable afterbirth+ so it isn't there when playing.

[@jaredhampton7419]

When you click on the game in your library you should be able to see an area titled dlc on the right side of the screen that lets you activate or deactivate any dlc that you own.

[@Jacksaur_]

Your save with each DLC is also stored seperately. So you'll go back to whatever progress you'd made when you were playing on regular Afterbirth (or rebirth if you didn't have either DLC). That's either a good thing or bad thing for you.

[@Dogman_35]

Not if you want mod support...

[@katsuishima275]

Dogman_35 You do know that there were mods before AB+ right? and massive ones at that, like godmode and the binding of Pokemon and such, massive overhauls and such, check out ThemoddingofIsaac site and you'll see some of the massive ones that were around for Afterbirth alone

[@Dogman_35]

+Katsui Shima "Massive." They were huge for what was possible, but mods couldn't even do basic shit like adding new items without being insanely buggy. It's not comparable to _official support and tools_ for modding.

[@depressedkermit3752]

Theres one problem tho... DETAILED HUD.

[@tazoolnynx3947]

For a small KZbinr, you put out pretty good content, so I'll subscribe.

[@Claymenageries]

Rewatching this video just makes me apreciate how good of an update repentance is even more

[@AlphaSquadZero]

These small channels never fail to amaze me with the level of quality they bring, hopefully you manage to make it in this industry.

[@vinnysuperg123]

I gotta say, it is really motivating to see all these people appreciate these videos. I do put a lot of time in them, and its just amazing seeing it pay off with all this support. I may not be a "big channel" or anything, but you gotta start somewhere. And all these complements and shit is really flattering.

[@brandonwilliams7895]

vinnysuperg123 i agreee, VERY well put together, the way things transitioned was very pleasing to the eyes

[@mjgloria]

Actually, the void is supposed to resemble hallucinations and the challenge is killing every single boss on the floor so you can defeat delirium more easily. There's actually a way of finding out if delirium is the boss of the room or not

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

how does killing every single boss make killing delirium more easy

[@moogcity_2]

@@cheekybananaboy3361 more items

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

@@moogcity_2 but the items are usually garbage

[@moogcity_2]

@@cheekybananaboy3361 good point

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Very nice video, succinct and dense. You've got some good talent. Okay now I'm going to be "that guy": I NEED the song you used for the card for Part 3 at 5:38 , mind sharing?

[@vinnysuperg123]

Antibirth OST The Thief (Cathedral)

[@FredrikKnudsen]

You glorious person, you. You've made another person very happy this day.

[@liliacarbajal9518]

@@FredrikKnudsen Antibirth OST Machine in the walls (Mausoleum)

[@half-death8095]

@@liliacarbajal9518 its the thief dude from antibirth

[@eltiolavara9]

thankfully most of the things were fixed, but the void and portals are still lazy copypaste

[@Supware]

All he had to do was blend the colour like with champions

[@eltiolavara9]

Sup blend the colors?

[@Supware]

Something like red instead of purple, as it appears on the floor/boss transitions

[@eltiolavara9]

ohhh yeah that would have been way better

[@bamshablam5977]

not to mention delrium figth is shit

[@augustvonmackensen7273]

I was disappointed. Remember he did say he would release content every month for a year. Then it was a 3 monthly thing and now I don't think he has anything at all to do with BOI.

[@mmcrm117]

yeah, the thing is pretty much over by now.

[@eggin17]

Repentance?

[@lukaszboczar2441]

I think ab+ was disappointing because of antibirth

[@TMOSP1]

When I played Afterbirth+, I challenged myself to listen to Ocean Man by Ween until I got 1000000%. Most of the time was spent running Lost up to Delirium, and hoping that he didn't teleport on my face twice. Like, DOZENS of hours of Ocean Man and Delirium teleporting on me and killing me. Greedier Mode sucks. Delirium is my least favourite boss in the game. I beat Ultra Hard on my... 3rd try? I think. I just got Brimstone and won. Everything else was boring, and I don't play Isaac anymore because the game doesn't entertain me anymore.

[@Kokonutzlz]

That sounds great man, not much of a challenge with that music playing.

[@TheClanGODS]

Like Austin from the NLSS crew did while waiting for Afterbirth + to come out

[@Kokonutzlz]

Jorge Montessoro I remember NL talking about listening to Ocean Man for like 6 hours straight

[@leaffen9616]

TMOSP Just assuming you have memorized the lyrics.

[@CitrusPeppercorn]

I listened to oceanman for 109 hours.

[@plosonen]

I've probably watched this video like 20 times but it just keeps popping up in my recommendations. Good timing too, was just talking with a friend and he asked if he should buy Afterbirth plus and I showed him this. I personally like it because I think the Void is fucking cool but I can definitely understand the gripes of the fans about this expansion. Great video

[@Shamanish]

You said it, there is a lot of lost potential in this dlc. The best thing that's gonna come out of ab+ are the mods, even if the tools make it extremely hard on Devs.

[@Shamanish]

Check out this mod teaser thingo, it's coming soon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYOtoKWejLh5rrc

[@Coreagrus]

Yeah, that one is quite promising.

[@jameslee3508]

I expected monthly content update, like booster packs and Greed Daily. But the Devs fucking lied.

[@BulletBarry]

This was a really good video, I may make a video on this as well actually

[@dynamine203]

@regular youtube account screw you

[@harrisonsowa298]

@regular youtube account lol it was a good video crybaby

[@MaxiGoGo1717]

Here's some weird fact Afterbirth+ was supposed to come out on ps4 last year on march 4th Guess what It never came

[@BanisherDarkness]

It actually did, but it's the most mind blowingly stupid thing to find and download. It was placed under "Extras" in the store. A tab that doesn't actually exist on the PS4 store, so you have to go to the PC version of the Playstation Store, login and buy it on there, then click a button that tells your PS4 to download it.

[@sculltex391]

Doctor Fuze it also never released on Xbox, because idk why, they won’t say. Guess they felt like it or something

[@MaxiGoGo1717]

MadMachinist that's fucking stupid

[@fjert3729]

wtf, for me it was stupidly easy to download

[@shauns28]

It is on ps4

[@vinnysuperg123]

Thanks to 100k of you watching my dumbass. Next video should be out before the end of the week, so if you want more garbage stay tuned.

[@Zeckle11]

Neat

[@moldingthegalaxy]

Would you ever do a video talking about how great Antibirth was?

[@vinnysuperg123]

At some point I do wanna do a video on Antibirth, but I'm gonna wait a little. I have so many ideas for videos, and Antibirth is closer to the bottom of the list. Like I said tho, It probably will happen at some point.

[@woler6533]

Crybaby

[@sarahmclean8632]

😅😊😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@itsmeok6205]

Did you just say you like delirium? We are now sworn enemies

[@vinnysuperg123]

Watch my Repentance video. I shit all over the boss dont worry. I have matured and learned my ways

[@itsmeok6205]

@@vinnysuperg123 just finished it and you are now forgiven

[@4nderson600]

You being an small channel and having this level of quality brings me back hopes for KZbin and their next generations You have my subscription and likes brotha

[@inaccurateprophecy8971]

The main confounding thing about Afterbith is that the new additions feel specifically like the creator itself is telling the fans that they’re not having fun correctly. Unnecessary and unfun items being the main thing.

[@NE0N0W0]

This video just hit the 3 year mark. WOOO

[@vinnysuperg123]

Jesus fucking christ you're right. That is insane.

[@NikolaiAvilov4446]

@@vinnysuperg123 are you gonna make a video about repetitance if it fails?

[@birb7548]

@@NikolaiAvilov4446in my opnion repentance is a sucess

[@BotBoy-un3pz]

Delirium is just the peak of lazy design. I’m glad to hear they’re finally fixing this godawful boss in the new dlc.

[@sirtetris]

yeah, about that...

[@AltumDolor]

Hey, I know it's been 3 years but a new expansion is coming out. Might want to make a vid about that when it comes out, I'll be waiting

[@Charziken]

the two reasons i enjoy AB+ are easily downloaded mods (not making, but downloading and removing them is incredibly easy) and the delirium boss fight (not the floor, only the fight) and I feel I have enough hours to give a decent opinion (1400+)

[@None-Up]

That transition talking about the lost and the keeper in the ultra hard challenge where the audio overlapped seemed L A Z Y.

[@Coreagrus]

I'm with you on all this Vinny, but Delirium is awful. Yes, the concept itself is fitting for a finale, but gameplay wise it's just random unpredictable chaos, made up of all the other bosses of the game. I find Delirium to be the worst of random often unfair attack patterns, like Mama Gurdy, any boss that uses those random light beams, Daddy Long Lengs and the like. Otherwise, great video. By the way, happy new year!

[@vinnysuperg123]

I think I'm just kinda a softie for any boss that does something unique. Like look at OG Ultra Greed, I love him because of how he is so unique.

[@eduarduliczai7105]

this is why we have ANTIBIRTH :D

[@andrewstephengames1260]

honestly Delirium and a few other endgame bosses are designed to be unpredictable to fit the player's amount of power at that late stage in the game

[@rakkatytam]

Beating it with the lost and keeper was a fucking unnecessary bitch

[@tmck4138]

Couldn’t agree any more. I understand he concept of delirium. Isaac is confused and seeing all different kinds of bosses at once. But I can’t think of a way to improve on this boss battle. It feels unnecessary and I wished we good a completely different floor along with different bosses

[@TheRealDismantler]

I probably should’ve said this sooner but you really can’t compare Afterbirth + to Antibirth. One was in development for years and the other was rushed in a few months.

[@swolby9230]

I gave been trying to get all the Greedier stamps and I have to break the game or get a consistant flow of good items (plus bomb immunity) to actually win. Also, getting Holy Mantle on the Lost is a bitch (870 coins in the Greedier machine, I'm at 860)

[@alfredmoen6504]

0:48 You should talk to Northernlion.

[@darkboy19O7]

I probably should have held out for the PC version. Antibirth seems awesome

[@vinnysuperg123]

Darkboy Heads up that like 70% of the music in this video is from Antibirth

[@freshlymemed5680]

Sadly Afterbirth + cant get it to work properly

[@darkboy19O7]

Freshly Memed Well, that sucks

[@freshlymemed5680]

Darkboy Edmund and the Antibirth dev tried but its too broken

[@darkboy19O7]

Freshly Memed I can't really argue with that. Sometimes when I quit to the main menu, everything locks as if it was a fresh save, and then the game crashes a few moments later. Thankfully it's never actually done anything to my save, Though it can make trying to reset a bad run a pain in the ass

[@ThistleBlue]

"The most frustrating and tedious part of the game" That the point though. You either need godlike skills or exploit certain aspects of items.

[@TempestTemple]

I'm surprised you never mentioned The Marathon. Fuck The Marathon. It's not even hard but the fact that you can only attempt once per day and it takes at least 5 days just means it's a waiting game. Waiting for the next run and a good one. Not to mention it was broken at launch due to achivements being turned off in dailies.

[@Mary_J1998]

TempestTemple i got the daily achivements as soon as i could. Started the day it wad launched and got it like i was supposed to nothing was broken on my end

[@TempestTemple]

The Mary Jane Alien The month of daily runs one worked from launch, did you get the perfect 5 day streak as soon as the game came out? There was a glitch were winning the run wouldn't add to the counter because it was accidentally turned off. It was fixed relatively soon.

[@hoodedman6579]

Fuck everything related to dailies.

[@BlondeMcGuinn]

I just discovered you today through your Lethal League Blaze video and I’m hooked. You are funny as hell and blunt and intelligent and eclectic. You’ve earned a sub man.

[@poyodarkz]

The Booster packs have added some new content, it's pretty good now. But I do have to agree with the most you've said.

[@lordducke]

Here we are 3 years later and Repentance kicks ass.

[@grugmann]

greedier mode still fucking sucks though lol

[@jx4219]

I think that the void as collection of all other floors is actually a cool idea and not lazy. This has a deeper meaning probably. How would you design a floor that is called the void? Black?

[@qlitch]

>calls 660 hours a “lot of time spent on a game” My god, I have no life.

[@als_pals]

"The Binding of Isaac: Repentance"

[@metroided34]

Number 5: Came out after Antibirth.

[@GalileoAV]

I was worried it was just me who thought this, I agree completely.

[@hellbach8879]

Lmao the entire community thinks ab+ sucks, you're not special

[@MrNexis3]

I am SO HAPPY that I was able to get mom's knife as my first item in ultra hard and to not actually choke the challenge. Same goes for SPEED, but I got pyromaniac which was a life-saver.

[@nurmanurmanurr2946]

Afterbirth+ definitely should've been a bit cheaper. Hopefully this isn't the end the TBOI:R expansions. Antibirth + afterbirth would be amazing.

[@zurenea]

We're just getting booster packs from now on, I'm sure.

[@grados3060]

*Booster Pack But there's hope, check bindingofisaac.com

[@coolboysupermega7455]

The Binding of Isaac repentence

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

Let's be honest, most of the curses are already bullshit without combining them. They don't add to the difficulty, they merely inconvenience you. And not in a way that requires better execution or a higher skill level. They're just a test of your patience.

[@theshiberealm9022]

“this is the most hours i have in a game ever” me with 3000+ hours in tf2 : *_pathetic_*

[@bamb2150]

I think we can all agree on the greedier

[@maw9406]

660 hours? *R O O K I E N U M B E R S*

[@Daryom]

I think that the void could be upgraded with details like: - Make all the enemies a reskin to match the delirium theme and make them super fast and with extra health - Make the effect of the remote control everytime you enter a room (or maybe a new room to not abuse of that) - Add a filter to the level, maybe the filter of the easter egg that makes you see the game like an old tv - Make the textures glitchy, the void is about Isaac's last minutes of life, asphyxiating on his chest, so it would be so cool to see everything messed up, and ACTUALLY thas the reason why every room is a different floor layer, but they decided to make that effect the worst and cheapest way. - Every boss on the floor gets replaced with his respective delirium contrapart, also every boss gets extra life, and go on a irregular patern (moving really fast and then slowing down, or teleporting, i dont know), just to make them at least a bit different, its so retarded that you enter a boss room with a pin and it just gets destroyed at 1 second. - Messing with the musice, sometimes it gets slower, sometimes faster, or even the whole music dissapears to leave into static noise, or just emptyness, with some hard breaths that you barely can hear. And the most important - Making the exit appear at the end of every run and not before (except after you defeat delirium), so you can go everytime, why this would be an improvement? because the void should be a hard level, a level that you could only go if you are strong enough (or have advanced experience with the game), making the void a real challenge, so now it has a purpose to go on it, not just for completing the game. it would be an extra challenge for the hardcore players.

[@lislex11]

Ok I know it’s your opinion but can I just say this Afterbirth+ is an expansion pack that adds on to Rebirth unless we’re talking about the Switch anyways it just adds more mechanics to the original game that Edmund thought it needed I respect your opinion entirely but since I’m still a scrub at the game I’m just enjoying it at my own pace. And I was playing Afterbirth And your right it is VERY VERY Recommendable

[@RedRage2697]

One of the most annoying things they added in the booster pack is the cross grimace. It's VERY hard to learn and get down because not only does it shoot in 4 directions, but it alternates from diagonal shots to horizontal/vertical shots, and at a fast pace. And on top of that there's usually more than 1 in a room making it even more confusing, sometimes up to 4. And they still didn't think having 4 of those stupid things in a room was enough, they put enemies in those rooms too! Like WTF!? How am I supposed to keep track of all those enemies and the already annoying attack pattern of the stone grimace?? I usually am happy to get out of those rooms with only a few hits. They really need to stop it from rotating or just remove it entirely from the game because it alone makes me not want to play the game sometimes

[@spookyghost2796]

Someone gets it, SOMEONE GETS HOW GOOD ISAAC IS!

[@ande567b]

5:16 No, its not.... especially not with the lost or Keeper. Then it is a nightmare filled with unavoidable damage, that can kill you due to bad luck rather than lack of skill.

[@iirolaakso8958]

if bad luck is problem for you. Maybe you should not play roguelikes.

[@richardwatson1254]

Binding of Isaac Rebirth is truly amazing. I mean, you make one of the best games of all time. Then you make one of the most enjoyed dlcs of all time. And then make single handedly one of the worst dlcs purchasable to date. You gotta admire Edmund for that. Also, when the fuck is the next booster pack coming?

[@Supershadow301]

Soon, I guess? They're working on 🅱️umbo, so it may take time...

[@sablonanime650]

Play the revelations mod because holy shit its antibirth 2.0

[@ActualDavis]

Edmund stated that this expansion released in the state that it did due to his involvement and motivation being at an all-time low. It's not an excuse but the subsequent booster-packs and free updates to AB+ helped make it a lot more worth-while. That being said even after Repentance The Void has yet to receive a re-work and Greedier mode lacks any new content aside from item-pool changes. Mods do exist to improve upon these issues but that shouldn't be the standard. AB+ originally set out to provide the community with the necessary tools to keep isaac going forever, that's not a bad mentality but when your console releases don't give those players the ability to install mods you've essentially failed a LARGE majority of your playerbase. I love Isaac, and I love looking back on AB+ for what it was, despite Repentance's release making the game a lot better there's still a lot of work that needs to be done.

[@ogdred4667]

That's a LOT of damage!

[@TheLanCave]

So... I got the platinum for Rebirth on Vita, and since then, I've put several more hundred hours into the game on switch. However, this means that I never got to experience afterbirth without AB+. As I've worked on growing my own channel, I really appreciate comments to tell me how people found me. Yours showed up after I started looking up different Transformations that I have not seen so that I could try to collect them all.

[@litsoul6427]

Why Afterbirth+ was a disappointment? Because Antibirth was better.

[@Supershadow301]

Gotta agree... Having such a magnificient community-made free expansion right before the shitstorm of afterbirth+... One of the Antibirth devs kind of lost their shit too, if I remember well...

[@thesupermonkey7983]

But antibirth final boss is fucking easy

[@Nebulighl]

the bomb pennys that fall from the sky is the easiest to dodge in the greedier mode fight

[@FuzzyImages]

Oh man, I am looking forward to a video about repentance's nerfaggedon

[@johnathan_maximiliam]

At least it were items that needed it. And they buffed alot of stuff. Glass cannon went from piece of sh*t to really good

[@FuzzyImages]

@@johnathan_maximiliam Nothing "Needed" a nerf, this is a single player game, not league of legends, and as far as the buffs, hardly anything had a tangible buff as far as I've seen aside from maybe holy water (Still crap) and the keeper.

[@DrZaiusDrZaius-xp5fw]

@@FuzzyImages If removing the ability to dismantle the game after grabbing a single treasure/devil room item seems unnecessary to you because Isaac's merely a "single player game", then you'd honestly have more fun using the console to spawn in whatever items you want at the start of every run.

[@paulakroy2635]

@@FuzzyImages Broken Modem is good. Bob’s brain deals double damage. The lost got the eneternal D6, all familiars got a damage or tear up, kidney stone now no longer gives a you a tears down, soy milk has less knockback

[@hanging4176]

“Ultra Greed Phase 2 is the worst boss” -Flashbacks to all the times Delirium has telefragged me and moved so fast I literally couldn’t react because of the speed. At least I can hope for Pyromaniac or Host Hat against Phase 2 Ultra Greed. Against Delirium? I just pray he doesn’t telefrag me to death or pray for Gnawed Leaf with an auto attacking familiar. Even at 3,000,000% I think Delirium is still the worst designed boss in Issac.

[@minecraftermad]

calls 600 hours in a game alot... amateur

[@Jamal-jr8ke]

Void X Gamer r/whoooosh

[@hannes8978]

@@voidx7349 it's not a meme, it's a subreddit

[@kkodama1858]

Void X Gamer that’s not a joke in any situation

[@slippy5849]

@@dunkus5357 Honestly r/whoosh has just become awful due to the amount of people you see doing it. I'm sick of it now because of how overused it is.

[@etherraichu]

The other good thing about the Void floor is the music. That floor's track is really nice.

[@quickchuckle1471]

- looks at title - And why do you say that? - watches the entire video - OK I GET IT

[@klairy2437]

We dont complain about these......

[@hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm6671]

I agree that the modding tool is buggy but I disagree with the rest especially the ultra hard challenge. Because if you're really a striving player you'll spend hours maybe days completing that excruciating shit and after winning, the satisfaction is 👌. And besides that's not even the hardest achievement I know, there's an achievement in Max Payne where you have to finish the entire game without taking a single damage. (Top That!)

[@core_file374]

FUCKING GODHEAD ACHIEVEMENT

[@Davi_Dash]

They noticed the antibirth is better then afterbirth +, and fuses the mod to the game , i hope this bad design options, are fixed in the new dlc, thanks for the video man ,now i understand why this dlc is not like the others .

[@lukaszboczar2441]

It also had antibirth to compete with

[@thegamer9302]

Sorry to bug ya 5 months later about this but I can't get antibirth to work because I can't get rebirth to work (on its own). Do you have any idea or am I barking up the wrong tree?

[@bonbon5000]

In my opinion, I think the MAIN reason everybody hated AB+ so much, was because it wasn't as impressive as Antibirth, and that's honestly kinda sad... But then again, I have to agree on Ultra Hard. Seriously, fuck that challenge.

[@vinnysuperg123]

Honestly, Antibirth just made it look even more embarrassing for the team. I dont think it not existing would make me hate it any less though.

[@Butterz2021]

Who's hyped for repentance though?

[@drippeeboye607]

You are so right about other roguelites. For me, it’s because each of them are so different that I end up getting attached to how one plays and then dismissing the rest

[@DinaterX]

Definitely agree that Afterbirth + was a disappointment. You should do a showcase of antibirth, since it blows this DLC out of the water.

[@BasementDweller_]

Still my favorite dlc, it introduced the Forgotten.

[@nbd9321]

Forgotten wasn't in the game before this video. Booster packs did a good job.

[@Hyperion5566]

I wanna puke

[@flaco3462]

Thanks for explaining all the problems in this, I feel like Isaac has had a consistent problem with always giving more risk and less reward, and less creative new things of course, which so many other mods do so much better. i hope isaac gets better soon what with that new new (final but probably not) update which implies edmund sees mods that're ruling over his official updates oh yeah and could u tell me what tracks you used in the video

[@Apterygidae]

I personally just like afterbirth + so I can mod my game with ease

[@KanonHara]

did u watch the video... he criticizes the mod tools as well

[@Apterygidae]

TheKanonHara I am not saying that the mod creating system works well, It’s terrible, but the Steam Workshop is what I’m interested in

[@Catslug]

I only got afterbirth+ for mods, which drastically enhance the gameplay. There are so many mods that improve upon and even completely rewrite the mechanics of the vanilla version. Even mods that could fix or remove afterbirth+ fuckups

[@coltpoke2]

Song at 2:17?

[@WuddesGD]

coltpoke2 The Thief - Antibirth OST

[@h7n38]

Thanks man :)

[@StormerSage]

"Go play Antibirth instead" Hoooo did you predict the future.

[@Maurice040684]

Original Isaac this the best game, because it was the only game of the series where skill > item luck. Yes, Rebirth was "more fun", but it was way less balanced then the old Isaac. Beside that: The Soundtrack of the old Isaac was sooooo much better than in Rebirth!

[@PremierMilenkov]

I second your opinion on the soundtrack...most of the Rebirth music is trash, I actually had to find a mod that replaces it with the original's, that's how much I thought it sucked.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Only that if you had a rather powerful pc the game sped up to SPEEED! Challenge levels while also demanding of you do no damage the womb and the catacombs for platinum god wich is bullshit and the game knows it

[@Blessourdonuts]

Just found your channel out of nowhere. Keep up the good work and good luck on this journey :)

[@d3nss119]

I wanna see the video for repentance

[@captainswag9324]

Clicked this video planning on defending AB+ into the ground. Then Part One began. Welp 😐 Edit: Aaaaaand... can't argure Part 2 either. I have no mod tools on Switch. But that's to be expected. Yeah I can't defend Ultra Hard, either. ...literally everything you said is fair and warranted. Quality 👍🏻

[@iggymcshiggy8533]

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[@dakotakade3547]

My main complaint was when I got every single item unlocked but it needed me to do it two more times...

[@adolfom.4552]

You videos are super cool how do you have such a low amount of subs?

[@AshenSpark]

Probably a low quantity of videos :P He just needs more videos of this same great quality.

[@WaaveLvl0]

You really articulated everything I felt about AB+ that my puny ape brain couldn't put into words. You definitely deserve more subscribers, this is a tremendous amount of talent and effort.