Why Buy The Wimpy Raptor When You Can Buy a Ford Diesel Super Duty For The Same Money?

( www.TFLcar.com ) Today, a new Ford Raptor can cost the same as a Ford F-250 Super Duty. But which one of these pickup trucks offers the most value? The answer may surprise you.
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[@DiegoMartinez-ou5wn]

Two very different trucks used for very different reasons. Raptor is king for off-road performance and F-250 is king for work and power.

[@donoberloh]

Wrong in both cases.

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

🍻🦾

[@GabrieLight]

@@donoberloh What's the wrong?

[@emilioortega3222]

Raptor off road F250 work 👌🏻

[@my2moneypits]

Working at a ford dealership myself, Id take the 250 any day

[@1mlb704]

I also work at a Ford dealership and I'd rather have the Raptor personally. Much more comfortable ride (Super Duties ride like they're on pogo sticks), much easier to steer, still easier to park, no nasty diesel smell, better resale value, much more off-road capable, etc. To each their own I guess

[@BlackGT1999]

I’ve worked at ford dealer and I’d choose the Raptor. But have considered the F250...

[@danh.3766]

1mlb704 diesel smell?

[@1mlb704]

@@danh.3766 you've never smelled diesel exhaust fumes before??

[@danh.3766]

1mlb704 I own this truck. There is no diesel smell.

[@DargoDog]

This is a classic case of toy vs utility.

[@afroman5531]

"But i want it! No... I NEED IT"

[@maxwell5428]

It’s more of a case of different strokes for different folks

[@mitchelllong5848]

I think I’ll stick with the Raptor, but I can see that the F-250 is a great truck

[@texaswayz2289]

You wear jordans.u dont know any better..haha

[@Who-Uhm-Cares]

TEXASWAYZ Something wrong with Jordans? You too busy wearing Vans?

[@texaswayz2289]

@@Who-Uhm-Cares nope just fukin with ya.vans?Haha Air max Jordan's Tims

@@texaswayz2289 hell yeah brother

[@mitchelllong5848]

TEXASWAYZ ???

[@JustinKingOffroad]

when can we expect to see you offroading this f250? lol!! flex that thing out on PA gulch!

[@jasonyoung6420]

F250 doesn't flex, it's more likely to force the obstacle into the ground rather than compress it's suspension.

[@marlonm396]

I like your enthusiasm and sound delivery. Solid work Mr. N!

[@YoungMoneyInvestments]

You get a raptor for the exclusivity, the look, and if you're not towing much. This is a beautiful truck but there's a reason the RAPTOR is so iconic!

[@dchawk81]

The Raptor is just a big truck with a Baja style suspension. It's not particularly iconic.

[@dchawk81]

It's also not exclusive. You just need a good income. You don't even need to be wealthy.

[@YoungMoneyInvestments]

@@dchawk81 I disagree. It is THE truck that so many other auto manufactures have tried and failed to replicate with any real success. Girls that don't even like trucks know what a Raptor is. lol I also think a $70k price tag makes it pretty exclusive IMO.

[@dchawk81]

@@YoungMoneyInvestments Nah 70k isn't even remotely exclusive. A construction foreman can afford one. An IT guy can afford one. Heck even I can afford one and I'm a truck driver. That's not exclusive. Exclusive is your Bentleys and Ferraris and on the super high end your McLarens and Veyrons etc.

[@YoungMoneyInvestments]

@@dchawk81 True, it's not six figures but you have to be making good money or not have a family to afford one. To each their own, right?

[@ryanaandre]

I'm a GM guy, but I would 100% purchase a Ford Super Duty as my second choice. I think the new styling is fantastic looking. Beautiful truck.

[@Bananahammock88]

And the cummins would kill them both

[@nasalspray1973]

Not to mention the aftermarket world is endless for the f 250

[@azargelin]

well the f-250 also has solid front and rear axles which are great for crawling

[@ninioburbuja]

It is good to see Nathan "back". Roman: Nathan needs to do more content.

[@juancortes5876]

ninioburbuja I’d rather see more vids with Nathan than Vids done by Roama’s Son

[@Timoteo3858]

Nathan, Great presentation of a fantastic truck. Your star shines most brightly and your presentations pop when you allow your passionate side step to the foremost position. It's been a little while since you have been able to run a wild. I'm in favor of more of this type of review where you lead with your heart. Great Show! Tim

[@edwu8253]

I have an old school F350 with a 7.3 just turned 416k miles

[@iDrive4fun93]

Just be careful, cause it’s not quite broken in yet.

[@randall10james47]

iDrive4fun93 Lmao

[@randall10james47]

7.3 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯💯💯

[@jakewilson5971]

mines only just reaching 170k

[@JoseRodriguez-re4rh]

I have f350 gas engine 7.5 L 202k miles great truck

[@mikec5820]

Looks great too. That smoky color combination is awesome.

[@Ornelas11B]

My boss has the 2019 F-350 FX4. It’s a beast. He uses it hard every day hauling machines. We do concrete. We also have a 2017 F-450 V10 for our work truck. That trucks a beast too. It will pull anything.

[@Ornelas11B]

Oshawott $80-90 to fill it up and no it doesn’t last long lol.

[@nateyoung6331]

I can't wait for you all to get the 2020 to test it. Patiently waiting.

[@joeschmoe6021]

I owed a 2017 F250 diesel FX4 Platinum, used it to pull a 9000 lb airstream. It was such a pleasure to drive. so much power: I could exceed the turnpike speed limit (70) while still on the on-ramp, while pulling that trailer.The Michelins are perfect tires for towing. Super smooth but able to handle the weight. You don't take an F250 offroading, its meant for pulling heavy loads down the highway. The 4x4 is for getting a lot of weight out a soft piece of ground, which I did several times with the trailer. I traded it in on an F450, platinum. Love it too, but that F250 was a nicer ride and better gear ratio for acceleration and top speed. Miss that truck.

[@EmeryJude]

you'll probably get more miles on that power stroke too

[@kadenkast392]

e luquette 😂 realllly

[@thadiusvonhammer5324]

Nope

[@brandonvaughan7477]

Back in the day

[@fordf-2505]

Oh absolutely

[@davidmccallum9383]

I’m here in Australia about to take delivery of a 2019 Ford F-350 king ranch dually , been waiting to see you in a 2019 super duty.

[@JattAnmoli]

Why are you bums wasting so much money on work trucks? Get a beater.

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@JattAnmoli How are they bums if they can afford a super expensive truck? lol

[@macbookpro57]

Damn 7.23 sec 0 to 60 a mile above sea level is pretty impressive for something that weighs 4 tons lol

[@mattreese-7]

a stock tacoma does 7’s

[@wushock92]

I agree with everything you said. I recently rented an F250 Lariat Sport gasser (long story) and loved that truck. It had the same Michelins on the ground but, curiously, the spare had a much more aggressive tread. We got as much as 19 mpg highway, and it had a payload capacity of 3640 pounds. My Galaxy S6 did not play well with the Sync 3 system, however. Once I got used to the height of the running boards from the ground, ingress and egress was not an issue for these old knees. In short, I hated returning it at the end of my 1700 mile trip.

[@calebshonk5838]

I have a story that's a testament to the current generation of F-250: I was doing support work for Operation Northern Strike 2017 at Camp Grayling in Michigan (military training exercises). Specifically, we were providing security for some of the live-fire ranges. This required us to patrol through a variety of offroad conditions, including rough dirt roads, trails, cross country, hill climbing, rock climbing, fording and driving through 3 feet deep sand tank trails. In order to do this, the Army gave us two brand new 4x4 F250s, a 2016 and a 2017, (because there weren't any available HMMWVs and because they probably wouldn't survive the tank trails anyway. Trust me on this, it was a good choice). Basically, we were getting paid by the government to go Baja racing every day for two weeks (our tax dollars at work 😂). The 2017 was extremely effective at offroading. It was even more capable than the 2016 despite both being the same trim/equipment levels (just different generations). The 2017 never got stuck. We even used it to pull the 2016 out of the exact same terrain. The 2017 just came stock with better tires, better drivetrain, more ground clearance and more horsepower than the 16. Honestly, if I could afford $70k for an offroad truck, I'd seriously consider an F250 over a Raptor. Because you're not only getting a more capable truck, you're also getting a more powerful and more robust one as well. Granted, it sucked gas like nobody's business. But that was really the only downside. TFL- If you want to properly test a truck's offroad potential, give them to a group of soldiers and tell them to have fun. 😂

[@JJMassar]

Super Duty with Carli Pin Top Kit...game over.

[@390nm]

JJM same thing I was thinking

[@cdub.91]

Real question though....2.5” or go all out with the 4.5”

[@kc2giw]

The stock superduty tire is 34” (275/65) and there’s a TON of aftermarket tire support. I put the same size on my f150 for that reason. FYI, they fit perfect on stock wheels and a level.

[@impeccable1648]

76K on my Alumaduty 2017 F250. Absolutely amazing truck and is loaded!

[@darricksanderson4359]

63 k over here and it is a joy to roll in. Just waiting for everything to get plugged up so I can rip it all out and let it breath.

[@impeccable1648]

Darrick Sanderson what are you going to put in for replacement? I live in CA and am not even sure I have an acceptable option.

[@philip600rr]

Patiently waiting for the new Ford Super Duty 7.3 gas.

[@daltonv5206]

Agreed

[@edwardkanyingi9796]

What???7.3L gas you must be rich

[@philip600rr]

@darkjedi351 I used to work with a Ford Diesel tech. Any out of warranty repairs are very expensive. Let's just say he was a very busy guy. The N/A gas motors (6.2, and v10) had really good reliability in the fleet application.

[@aaronfrench8322]

I agree!

[@cparent2012]

And the aftermarket parts to follow. :). Bolt on Roush supercharger 💪

[@dr._breens_beard]

That 7.3l is what im waiting for. should be torquey, great sounding, and reliable after the first few production years.

[@jasondavis1453]

It's sad that we have to wait a few model years for these guys to get it right, but it's true across the board

[@alextrainor2552]

You dont have to wait, thats boomer talk. Get the first year, youll be fine.

[@dr._breens_beard]

@@alextrainor2552 unlikely. At the rate the big three change drivetrains/engines, its an environment ripe for malfunctions until real world data can be analyzed. The build materials and simplistic design of the new 7.3 gasser should eliminate quite a few possibilities for issues, but most mass produced anything has initial teething problems.

[@jasondavis1453]

@@alextrainor2552 like first year 5.4 3v Or first runs of the ecoboost

[@mWf57]

Depends on why the use. They’re the same horse power (25 diff) but the super duty is built to tow. But like a Raptor I get a truck for what it’s for. If I want something that is the real deal I’d go w a 350. Not a wimpy 250🙂.

[@gadgetmantwincities]

I’m anxious to see you test the new gasser with the 10 speed!

[@joemomma7161]

I own a 2019 raptor supercrew and would never choose any truck over it. If I needed to tow, I’ll buy a f250 as well. But I got my raptor for my wife to daily and for all trips. So far, it’s been amazing.

[@icawn]

Tell me your wealth building secrets.

[@joemomma7161]

icawn no secret here. Dropped out of high school. Got my adult school, got pre read for Refistered Nursing, went to Nursing school, became an RN. Paid for my wife’s school. Now she an RN. My base pay is 115k but with OT, I hit 150-200k. I’ve already surpassed 150k so I’ll be making 200k this year. My wife only makes 100k. She new. We in Cali so that actually not a lot of money here. I honestly feel poor.

[@revistadearmas]

Remeber F250 if you arent hauling you are compensating- Henry Ford

[@jaysson1151]

revistadearmas I’ll take ‘Shit That was Never Said by Famous People” for $1000 Alex! BUT, I do however, agree with the comment.

[@alextrainor2552]

It sounds like you are the insecure one bud. People are allowed to buy whatever they want.

[@rememberussliberty1822]

My 2500hd does everything i need and more. And it didnt cost $60k

[@wushock92]

@@rememberussliberty1822 that's a very good point. If it does everything you need, you have the perfect truck.

[@josephfoster30]

You need all 3...Raptor for off-road toy, super Duty for work and towing, and half ton for trips to Home Depot family trips. One red, one white, one blue.

[@KJ-iq7fm]

Notably, the Raptor is 6 inches wider than the F250 Super Duty (which may be a pro or con). Clearly, value depends on individual need & use cases.

[@WoodLox]

Agree,. The Raptor is a multi task sport truck, the Lightning was a sport truck. If you need a work truck, a super duty is the choice. Love the taller aggressive tires on factory wheels. Sleek’

[@devildog5354]

You might be able to get the F250 with $8K off sticker price. The Raptor, maybe $1K if you are lucky...

[@JohnDiMartino]

Paul von Helger on the back side the raptor will return a much higher percentage on resale .... F250 power strokes are not holding there value like a Raptor and in most cases ppl want the 350 single wheel as the payload of an f250 CC4x4 diesel isn’t worthy of a 5th wheel Prep package IMO . F250 tags at 10000 lbs and they weigh over 8000 empty ...with 2 ppl and there gear all that’s left is between 1400-1500 lbs if that for a trailer or payload ... not much considering the monster under the hood...

[@barlowb5986]

75k... fixed running boards, halogen headlights... ugh, prices are out of control!

[@ejcheli]

Fact. Yet people keep buying them, cause the dealers keep offering longer and longer car loans... making them "affordable" lol

[@TuckTheHomiesIn390]

I was in this same predicament just about three months ago when I was truck shopping. I was between a CPO raptor, and a 2019 f250 xlt with all the goodies like the 360 camera, fx4, etc. Well after driving both it was pretty easy to see which was the better truck, and I drove home in my new f250 that night. Best decision Ive made. Coming from a lemon 2018 mustang left a bad taste in my mouth for ford, but these trucks are so much nicer than thier other vehicles.

[@CMH_1975]

I'd wait for the 2020 Super Duty. Something else more serious is coming that hasn't been announced.

[@reddog5753]

nah they just released the new super dutys in 2017, no way they would replace them 3 years later they still need to make tons more money on them before releasing their successor

[@CMH_1975]

@@reddog5753 the 2020 is a refresh. I know first-hand and seen it with my own eyes that there is new stuff coming that hasn't been announced.

[@stonecold5674]

I would take a F250 before a Raptor any day. But the price tag on both is insane. Who would have thought a couple of year back that trucks will hit this high of a price tag

[@kskeel1124]

Fully loaded F-350 over $100,000 SMFH!!!

[@AkioWasRight]

Well, they were hitting $75,000+ a couple years ago. Were you expecting prices to drop after two years?

[@390nm]

Kevin Skeel where are u seeing 350s for that much lol

[@jaysson1151]

emdec55 the thing is, $75K was a fully loaded F-450 in top level trim a few years ago. Now it only gets you a 250 in upper middle trim with a few options or packages along with the diesel and 4wd. Hell, this same truck with the gas engine is still gonna cost over $60K! A similarly trimmed and optioned F150 costs about the same.

[@reddog5753]

prices have gone up way beyond inflation and not just on vehicles. we live in a terrible time.

[@Ultratron100]

Good video and good argument. A quick search found F-250 Lariat Sport gassers for 52k. Helluva lot of truck. That's 5k less than the cheapest Raptor.

[@ShelbygtR-wo8wh]

If I had to tow I would definitely get the F 250 but since I don't and where I live in the winter it can get bad so I would get the Raptor.Have to win the lottery first though

[@jakes5530]

2016 Shelbygt350R my thoughts exactly

[@labestiaazul5428]

I completely agree with this buddy. 100%!!!

[@andybrooks4070]

yea i'd take a 250 over a raptor all day

[@ChrisKellyPrime]

You can't afford either, so 🤷‍♂️

[@Pistolpete218]

Chris Kelly 😂😂😂

[@nokoolaid]

If I had the money, I agree as the 250 doesn't have an open trunk, but a bed, but I can't afford either.

[@nokoolaid]

@ Don't want an 11 year old truck.

[@isaacsmiranda4902]

Yes it is 2019 Magnetic Ford F250 Super Duty Lariat FX4 6.7L V8 PowerStroke 450 Hp 935 Torque SuperCrew Short Bed 4wd 1,500lbs 3.55 REAR 6 Speed Automatic & A 10 Speed Automatic Transmission Panoramic SunRoof 4wd 0-60=7.23 Seconds Black-Out Grille Screen Backup Camera Mechlin Tires $75K Ulimate Heavy Duty Truck!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DanielCollins85]

Apples to oranges. Raptor is a pre-runner for baja and the F250 diesel is for mall crawlers who never go offroad.

[@sham_wow_guy]

Raptor is nowhere near a Baja truck. Doesn't have twin I beam suspension and doesn't have 4 feet of suspension travel. For less money you can build a more capable Baja truck

[@DanielCollins85]

@@sham_wow_guy Its literally been in the Baja 1000 stock and finished. My best friend is lead mechanic for a Baja team. I have 1st hand knowledge of this as well as there is video proof on KZbin. So yes, it is a Baja ready vehicle.

[@sham_wow_guy]

@@DanielCollins85 Just because it competed in Baja 1000, doesn't make it a Baja truck. Considering my dad and I build a 74 f100 baja truck, I would know what a real on is. Twin i beam front suspension, with about 4 to 5 feet of suspension travel all the way around. Raptor has neither.

[@DanielCollins85]

@@sham_wow_guy Youre not the only one to do the Baja races. Hell VW Beetles finish it. Like I said, theres videos of it doing it. Also the Rally Fight has finished it multiple times with only 21 inches of travel on rear shocks. Your 4-5 feet is overkill. You believe what you want to. I know what I know.

[@sham_wow_guy]

@@DanielCollins85 Its not overkill when the whoops are about 3 feet deep. Raptor would destroy itself going through them at 80 mph like we do.

[@Arman-kz4gg]

Raptor is a cool off-roading/daily driver. The F-250 is meant to do work. Raptor is going hold its resale better than better as well.

[@Willyd2758]

Yeah... no

[@fordf-2505]

@@Willyd2758 Yeah.... yeah

[@Willyd2758]

Turbocharged v8 diesel. Huge towing capacity. Huge payload capacity. 4 wheel drive. Inching towards 1000 ft.lbs of torque. Better fuel economy than the raptor, as well as an engine that can handle the amount of power coming out of it for more than 100,000 miles. MUCH less expensive tires. Most likely (probably) not driven as hard or beat up as much as the raptor.

[@fordf-2505]

@@Willyd2758 Oh, my mistake. I love the Raptor, but I'd rather daily a Superduty, not to add, but the Powerstroke is much easier to make serious power with

[@Willyd2758]

Yeah fords turbocharged gas v6 ecoboost engines are good ideas, but you can’t really make a whole lot more power out of them. The idea of smaller engine less fuel consumption isn’t really the case here because bigger v8 engines do better then small turbocharged v6 engines when towing (in terms of fuel economy). Gm’s 6.2 Detroit diesel didn’t have exactly the most power, but my stock one on my 1987 Chevy 3500 gets 28mpg going down the road empty. I think trucks get bad fuel economy cause of all the emissions controls and shit the EPA puts on them. Anyways, the super duty is gonna hold its value longer mostly cause of that powerstroke diesel. I see 2006 duramax trucks (4x4) going for 20-25k around here and they’re old tech that holds its value cause of the diesel.

[@marcogomez3128]

9:36 my response is i always buy used. You don't really need to get a brand new truck of the lot. Vehicles are a liability.

[@Mr.Highway]

$75,000 ???? That's insane for a car/truck!!! It is a NICE truck 👍 Buy it 3 years old at 50% off sticker and about 40,000 miles.

[@my2moneypits]

They hold their value... a 2017 with 50k miles sells for $50k

[@Mr.Highway]

@@my2moneypits that's a lot of money for a pick up... Maybe I just don't see the value in spending a year's worth of salary on a vehicle to up the Jones.. LOL 😀 I've owned Ford trucks, and will own them again,just NEVER new...

[@BugOnAChip]

bob10mm people buy these for their work. Also, have you considered some people make more money than you?

[@Mr.Highway]

@@BugOnAChip let's break down your argument . I can buy the work specs without the bling on a fleet pricing, write it off faster and then sell out right in 2 years at 70%. Don't assume (which is pure ignorant on your part) on my income bracket,silly boy. That truck is a toy truck.. please Garrett, go look at who is using what for HOTSHOTS or CONTRACTOR SPECS.. That is a truck to put in your driveway and pull your toys, that's great. Still not worth $75,000.. we can agree to disagree, I'm okay with that. I love that we ALL have choices. Don't confuse work truck specs with toy/soccer Dad trucks..

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

If i were to do it again id get a base f150 and build it up. Built will always be cooler than bought

[@michaelsullivan1703]

Two different option packages designed to accomplish two very different things

[@christophermoore3628]

I have a 19 ext cab short box F350 xl stx fx4 service truck. I work on radio transmission sites in southern oregon and northern california. Since the mountains have melted out 2 months ago I have put on 7000 miles of mixed highway/trail use. It is a gas truck but I still love it (and paid less than $40k for it). It gets close to pulling a tire in air (and does from time to time) almost daily, and has a regular diet of pumpkin size rocks. It is a pretty legit off road truck and I really love it (I think I like it more than my personal '15 tacoma). A front bumper, 2" leveling kit and 35-37" tires (maybe an arb for the front) and I would guess this thing could do 75% of the moderate trails out there. FYI the 6.2 gets about 14 highway (with regular mountain pass's that gain 3500+ feet) and about 12 when you mix in the off road sections. I did add a 1/4" steel bed plate to give it a little more rear axle weight (4000lbs front and 3600 lbs rear it was closer to 3100 lbs rear when I got it). My only real "hate it" thing would be the throttle mapping. Your right foot only seems to suggest that the engine actually do something. The engine controls sort of do what they want and that gets pretty annoying when in really steep terrain.

[@Freddy4fingers2]

For the price, you should get FREE LED headlights and a spray in bed liner. The other big 3 and Nissan gives aforementioned for free

[@Probablyshouldnthave]

John Slocum “free” hahhahhhaahhh🤣😂🤣

[@alexpuls8219]

I dont think everyone wants LED headlamps. If you break one it will cost you $2500 😂

[@carsonpatterson4576]

This model is the lariat sport. Blacked out everything and because their led headlights are internally all chrome, they went with halogens on this, with blacked out bits inside of it. Just an FYI lol My lariat 350 has the LEDs, but not the sport package

[@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering]

@@alexpuls8219 The LED package might be an expensive option, but LED bulbs are not expensive to replace.

[@cessealbeach]

Titan is JUNK!

[@thomaspetito6923]

Even though these two are built for 2 completely different purposes probably 95% people buying the Raptor will never use it for it's intended purpose which makes the F-250 a clear winner for it's capability. I would an love an F-250 diesel sport.

[@DragonKnightX12]

Not really when you consider that most people don’t even use half-tons to their full capability, a F-250 would just be a even bigger case of buying too much truck. The Raptor hits a sweet spot for the modern buyers that just want to drive a truck that moves. It’s still got good on-road performance rides and handles good, absorbs crappy American infrastructure like it’s nothing, it’s faster at 5.3-5.2 0-60, decent gas mileage at 15mpg avg with a 36 gallon tank. And it’s capable enough to do what majority do with their trucks. Plus you’ll have the most badass and unique factory truck currently made on the road.

[@matthewguarino7780]

I know you like ram but it's refreshing to know you aren't totally biased about the Ford except the interior dashboard! 😜

[@garylund5834]

Comparing a fun truck vs work truck. One hauls a horse, the other is goofing off in desert hauling beer and maybe a dirt bike

[@aparker9216]

In Texas, the F-250 is pretty much King. People can agree or disagree but I see a lot more F-250 Powerstrokes on the road compared to GM or RAM 3/4 tons. These vehicles aren't used for off-roading, more for groceries and shopping. That's just Texas.

[@anthonymonsini5635]

Wouldn’t get either. Would get something 5 years older, for half the price. Then I would mod it till I get up till 75k.

[@gamin_draven2878]

CT_Drifter55 yes, I would too

[@nickthrane4940]

Love my 2016 F-250 XLT 6.7L power stroke diesel. Last of the steel body super duties! Great Truck!

[@kylekarwowski2642]

I got 2016 350 xlt 6.7. I debated for a while weather to go with that or the 17 aluminum. Went with steel because it is a work truck. I hope it doesn't rust out in 3 years I do live in the UP of Michigan, my v10 2004 250 got so rusty I had to rip off the bed and build a flatbed on it out of treated lumber. She is still on the jobsite though and going strong at 220k.

[@nickthrane4940]

@@kylekarwowski2642 yeah had i waited one more year could have gone with the alumiduty. We will see I'll just have keep an eye on it and make sure rust doesn't spread.

[@newfoundadv1193]

Great looking truck. Practical if you tow on a regular basis. Daily driver not so much.

[@vee6411]

Says the guy who drives a Tundra, which has worse fuel economy than any full size 😂

[@newfoundadv1193]

@@vee6411 Maybe so..but It will out live any other truck out there

[@scanadaze]

I have a 2008 F350 with a 6.4 powerstroke. 96,000 miles. Only problem with it is the last owner must did a lot of idle time. Clogs up the exhaust filter. A must change for me in near future. I had to put some money in fixing as the whole heat and AC under the dash, air pump and tension pulley under the hood. New brakes and tires. Shocks in the back. All fluids changed and yet, she flys. Runs like a dream. 100% no engine modifications or exhaust. I would never sale her. Only one very big problem. She is no a small vehicle. Every city, ect is set up for small vehicles. Big parking lots I have to use two spaces. Most fast food drive threw I have to be very careful. Parking that has big parking garages I can not get into. Other then that, no matter the head winds, I'm leaving you behind. I love it.

[@Bruningable]

Great truck, great shirt!

[@atomicorang]

❤Out of all your videos you have been in I’ve never seen you happier.

[@shanewilson9250]

How would you compare this vehicle to the Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins Off Road Package and the GM versions. Please compare? (Apples and Apples/somewhat)

[@CaptainRudy4021]

I'd like to see Ford come out with an off-road oriented F-250 to compete with the Power Wagon and AT4. I'd call it the F-250 Rex.

[@halalheroes2343]

Id love to see them both on Baja trails in the dessert at 100 mph and see which one will do the best.

[@jstersmithson]

That would be bad ass

[@pacificwarrior7679]

Tommy in the rescue rover at 3:30 trying to keep up.

[@jedironin380]

"This F-250 handles well in the corners." Unlike the old RR trying to keep up! :D

[@Pistolpete218]

If you tow your race car or more, the f250 6.7 does it like there’s nothing back there bc of the massive amount of torque, wheel base, and weight. The raptor tows like you’re running through sand. So if you aren’t gonna actually off-road with it, you definitely would want to test drive the f250. It drives good not towing but drives great when towing one car.

[@gregoryjulian1333]

Glad you mentioned the shortcomings of the those Michelin tires. They look good, but are a big disappointment on winter roads and wet off road conditions. I’ve been aware of that for years, and always budget for a set of winter tires that I have installed by mid November. I feel sorry for those on a tight budget, who by these trucks and SUVs expecting the tires from the factory to perform 12 months out of the year in cold weather climates. Most factory tires are marginal at best. Thanks for the great review.

[@unsc0212able]

I would definitely get the diesel if i had choice between both. I have a F150 and it's great but would much rather be in the new F250 2020 looking to be a nice truck. Plus diesel trucks are amazing and ride really well.

[@kevlew70]

Hats off for the RUSH shirt. Nathan is like my twin

[@pezpengy9308]

yeah, but how do you turn off that metal guitar track that seems to accompany this thing wherever it goes?

[@jasonyoung6420]

more important question, why would you want to turn off the metal guitar track?

[@tedschmitt178]

Turn it off? Hell no! Turn it UP!!

[@ThaMagnaCarta]

i bought one of these in back in january, for a daily id still choose my raptor...but for high way cruising no way any one is going to cut you off in this beast of a truck. sad to note though was i had to go aftermarket for headlights and tailights considering, if you want the sport package they dont give you any of those.

[@Jacobcrane777]

Great video!

[@Rome_504]

I love my Raptor. It’s a bad ass Truck. I’ve always owned V8’s, I traded my 2018 F-150 Platinum 5.0 in for my 2018 Raptor. The 5.0 sounded real good, and was pretty quick, but the Raptor is on another level. I wanted a F250 before I bought the F-150, but I don’t tow heavy things. The 1/2 tons were perfect for me, but the resale value of the Raptor made me switch, because my Platinum’s value was dropping fast. Plus I missed having my Roush Mustang. So the Raptor gave me a toy, plus a truck, all in one.

[@atechguy923]

Great video! Where is that beautiful filming location?

[@Msalazar6sicVI]

I like how they actually put a metal oil pan instead of a plastic one like on the new F150s

[@ghostking0019]

I agree completely great review Nathan!

[@BrianBourgeois-]

I have a 18 150. But if I was spending 60k plus it would definitely be a f250 with the 7.3. The truck will fall apart around that drivetrain. When I’m spending that kind of money I want something that’s going to last. Another option is the land cruiser. Different use case though.

[@mariodesmo]

Yea, I really miss my Super Duty. I had a F250 SD a few years back and sold it because I wasn't driving it enough. Should have sold something else. They really are bad-ass trucks. Hauled my TJ to Moab and all over with it.

[@jessecooper7572]

I took out the limited F150 and a f250 6.7 platinum last week for test drive and I feel I. Love with the 6.7, such a beast! If I could trade my 18 3.5 platinum in right now for the superduty I would!

[@mini2nut67]

Great review. I had the same Raptor/F250 dilemma and ended up ordering a Raptor mainly because of the shorter length and minimal weight towing needs. It’s going to be a 6-9 month wait and most likely be a 2023. I found a dealer that’s sells at MSRP and they have 40 buyers ahead me. The dealer gets 4-5 allocations per month.

[@stephengoodin9584]

What dealer?

[@marksiegel374]

Great video.yes the Fords are badass,I sold my 2006 F350 which was a great truck too get me a new F250 probably in November.I disagree with your opinion on the interior. I think they are nice the platinum or limited are the step above But quality is good even the cloth are real comfortable. Can't wait too get mine not sure if i go diesel or the new 7.3 gas...

[@ronjon250]

I went back and forth for about six months. But we want a toy hauler soon so that was ‘end of the story’ for our family. 2020 Lariat Sport Ultimate 6.7L

[@Bananahammock88]

The raptor gets more head turns. My friends raptor gets more thumbs up than anything I've ever been in.

[@HOTRODINATOR]

If you think the diesel is impressive from factory, you should drive one that’s deleted. Completely different and better of a truck. The DPF and EGR systems just rob longevity and power from them, and you’ll never be left with a truck that won’t run because of the exhaust system failures.

[@rahulranecool]

Holy $h1t. Nathan is right. I have seen blokes pull campers as big as a house in the Canadian Rockies without breaking a bead of sweat. Absolutely magnificent

[@alexmiller1193]

And this is why i bought a 2019 Diesel Platinum

[@jeffouellette9946]

So you can pay for def. I'm not sure there will be def in the tribulations. Good luck getting around.

[@ThatDesignGuy]

I just bought this exact same truck in black over a Raptor. I’m very happy with it.

[@afroman5531]

Lol love the way you explain the grill 😂 👊x2

[@patrickburgmeier7902]

You would have to drive it a half million miles to make the up tick in engine option fuel cost per mile and DEF cost per mile. Cost per mile in the Raptor is waaaaay less. Plus the fun factor the diesel isn't even close.

[@lashbera]

I love my Superduty SRW Lariat, fifth wheel/goose neck tow rating is 20,600 lbs. I tow a 43ft fifth wheel that weighs around 16,000 lbs and it not only has great power for towing but the body, frame and suspension handle it like a dream. Way better then the truck that GM makes.

[@TheoDude333]

The last thing on my mind when getting a Raptor was how much I can tow but more how fun it would be to take at the dunes.

[@fasted5822]

+1 for Lithium Channel 34. Nathan, is that your station?

[@chriswhitesell8079]

I've got the 6.2 gas in my f250 for the cost difference and the cost of maintenance, I see no reason to buy the diesel. The gas engine makes plenty of power

[@demsakawalkinglatetermabor7ion]

Chris Whitesell When I test drive the 6.2 i was rather upset. 😞

[@adamdrury9677]

I think most would rather have the 250 for the money, but that's because it meets their needs best. The raptor is a niche truck for off roading. Yeah, super duty hauls better but could never come close to the raptor of road.

[@lordrichard8184]

I think my next truck will be a f250, probably the diesel. I’ve had great experiences driving a f350 cross country (literally New Jersey to California) several times, pulling a trailer. I also like having a proper full size truck, crew cab 8’ bed. And the truck should last for a million miles.

[@davidlusk4350]

On the next TFL truck. How andre and Nathan talked their wives into getting the f250s! That's the video I wanna see. Took a long time for my wife to be open to our HD. I gave 3 options, nissan Armada, Lexus GX, or an HD truck. She actually loved the truck the most!!! I was shocked

[@snactimusmaximus]

GX’s are trash. I had one for like 3 months before I sold it for a huge loss. Buying that thing was the worst decision I’ve ever made.

[@davidlusk4350]

@@snactimusmaximus wrote that's odd, not many complaints from people whom I've talked with. What year was yours? What were the issues?

[@snactimusmaximus]

David Lusk 2018. I can’t list everything that was “wrong” with it but I can summarize it through some examples. You had to option up to Blind Spot Monitoring, and it had no adaptive cruise _option_ in the 70k+ Premium trim. You had to option it in Lux trim. It’s more dated than even the 4 runner, or highlander. Tragedy on wheels. I got into it after my LX570 lease was up thinking it was just a downsize. It like like going back in time 20 years.

[@Uroultraboy]

Let's see how that heavy thing does in the mud. I've had to pull a couple diesels out and it sucks! So I suppose it depends on what you use your truck for. 4wheelin in Colorado I'd rather have the Raptor if I had to choose between the two trucks. Towing and city use of course I'd choose the 250.

[@Hunterwhitenewsome]

Hey Jay run the numbers! Okay well it’s can haul a bunch and can tow a boat load, plus with all this unimaginable power and torque you can’t go wrong!

[@rvboyett]

For me, the only problem with an f250 is that it won’t fit in my garage. The shortest super crew version is several inches too long. The Raptor is shorter. It’s a tight fit but it’ll it will actually fit.

[@edm9760]

I don't need all that luxury that is for sure, especially with the price tag close to that of a small house.

[@Cementgraytacoma]

edm well obviously these trucks are not for homeless people