Carmakers' Stupid Mistake on EV Tax Credits

Why are automakers urging Trump to keep EV tax credits, and boost self-driving cars. A group representing major automakers including General Motors are urging President-elect Donald Trump to retain key tax credits for electric vehicle purchases and take steps to speed deployment of self-driving cars. Why would car brands want to continue to take a loss? That makes no sense.
The Alliance for Automotive Innovation (AAI) in a previously unreported November 12th letter to Trump also raised concerns about vehicle emissions rules saying QUOTE "federal and state emissions regulations particularly in California and affiliated states... are out-of-step with current auto market realities and increase costs for consumers."
The automakers did not specify how they want the rules revised but said they support "reasonable and achievable" emissions regulations. The Trump transition team did not immediately comment.
The letter, signed by AAI's CEO John Bozzella, said automakers face unfair competition "from heavily subsidized electric vehicles and technologies exported from China" and also noted that China was implementing a regulatory framework to support deployment of self-driving vehicles.
The group also asked Trump to reconsider rules finalized in April requiring nearly all new cars and trucks by 2029 to have advanced automatic emergency braking systems. The group previously commented that the rules are "practically impossible with available technologies."
Last week, Reuters reported that Trump's transition team wants to kill the $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric-vehicle purchases - a move that would likely slow an already stalling U.S. EV transition.
This week, Reuters reported the Trump transition team plans to target federal regulations heralded by President Biden's administration that aim to make automobiles more fuel-efficient and incentivize a shift toward EVs.
The move appears aimed at satisfying a Trump campaign promise to "end the EV mandate," and would mirror a similar move during the first Trump administration to rollback Obama-era vehicle-efficiency rules.
Although no such "EV mandate" exists, the Biden administration regulations would effectively require automakers to shift at least 35% of production to EVs in order to meet 2032 requirements, and encourage a gradual phase-out of the production of vehicles that run on fossil fuels.
Many automakers want to keep EV rules or extend them due to their already massive investments. Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis want to ask Trump to adjust the EV rules and reduce penalties - other brands want it to go away including Tesla.
Jose Muñoz, who was just tapped as the next global CEO of Hyundai Motor Co., says it is time for the South Korean carmaker to lean hard into hybrids to stay flexible for uncertain times. Hyundai will start making the shift in the second half of 2025, Muñoz said, and begin producing a NEW wave of gasoline-electric hybrids in 2026 at the $12.6 billion factory in Georgia that it calls “Metaplant.” Muñoz forecasted that by the end of the decade, hybrids will comprise the largest share of the company’s U.S. powertrain mix - between 30 percent and 40 percent.
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[@Sidewinderguy]

The government tried that mandatory EVs here in Canada. We are still not buying them and have no interest. We just bought a diesel Yukon and our family loves it!!

[@waynek805]

EVs particularly don't make sense in Canada until and unless they can come up with a battery that isn't affected so much by low temperatures. But this is unlikely since all electrochemical reactions are very temperature dependent.

[@patbarr1351]

@@waynek805 That's true, but using technology like a built-in heat pump, batteries do much better in cold temps.

[@waynek805]

@@patbarr1351 And the energy for the heat pump comes from??? The battery itself I assume, thus further reducing its range🤣🤣🤣

[@patbarr1351]

@@waynek805 Yeah, dude, real funny? Anyways, here's what I've found: A UK channel's test showed a 12% drop in range on Kia EV 9 (-9 C) A US channel creator saw a 20% range drop with the Chevrolet Equinox (18F) A Canadian Equinox driver reported 30% loss in -24C weather

[@waynek805]

@@patbarr1351 And how much energy does the AC (and battery cooling unit) use when it is 100 deg F?

[@Grumpyin]

The dealership lots around the Detroit Metro area are full of EV's sitting on their lots. No one is buying them.

[@Noah_E]

Same in central VA. I drive through a stretch with over a dozen different brands on the way from my house to cabin and they are all the same. They won't budge on the prices, even with 2025s having been out for several months and rows and rows of 2024s collecting dust. Everyone got greedy during COVID and they refuse to allow the market to return to normal. EV or ICE, a compact CUV shouldn't cost $40k and a basic family hauler shouldn't be $60k.

[@brownro214]

Tesla sold almost 1.3 million cars EVs in the first nine months of 2024. No one is buying them?

[@darrylhowe1465]

Tesla has showrooms, not dealerships. The new Tesla cars, at the Tesla showroom lots, only arrive after someone has bought them.

[@williamwelling4872]

Car manufacturers should stand on their own not on the backs of the taxpayers

[@HBrown-pu2hb]

Yes , why are we paying Billions of taxpayer money for the failed EV market ? , so Jennifer Granholm can get rich ?

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

Failed EV market? Come to California. For all the crap that comes out of California, EV adoption rates isn't one of them.

[@trstrean]

You clearly don't understand how a credit works. The buyer gets their tax liability reduced. It's one of the few ways that the poor and middle class can pay closer to the nearly zero taxes paid by millionaires and billionaires. Instead of focusing on a credit that helps the poor..go focus on getting rich people to pay their fair share and it will more than pay for the credit you have decided to complain against.

[@antontsau]

​@@terrancecloverfield6791It is one of the biggest and stinkiest kommifornia crap

[@Give-a-foot]

Is that what you think China is doing?

[@na2305]

I'm glad Trump wants to cut back on EV's. Customers should determine the direction of products, not government.

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

EvS have been around for over 100 years. They failed everytime. The market already decided they don't want them

[@trstrean]

@@na2305 I agree, legacy auto should be allowed to fail without a bailout when Chinese EVs crush them. The global economy has made its decision and it isn't ICE. Everywhere China has exported to has had overwhelming sales that allow them economies of scale to set prices incredibly low for what you get. US auto has already lost and you think it matters that you want an ICE. It is a dead technology and failure to see that is what ultimately killed US leadership in the sector. Only now have US auto CEOs woken up to the reality of how far behind they are. Elon is trying to speed up its demise because Tesla will survive. If legacy auto has a chance at survival it is through an immediate pivot to EVs at a scale to make them affordable and competitive with China. Anything else and they will go bankrupt or be forced to merge like Honda and Nissan are.

[@waynek805]

@@trstrean Chinese troll!

[@garyszewc3339]

​@@trstreanvery few idiots in the US want to drive EVs. If they want to, pay full price. Taxes should not be used to support idiots with EVs.

[@deansapp4635]

Zero tax credits for EVs

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

Agreed the same for wind and solar. They are far worse for the environment

[@ccrider77]

The free market needs to guide consumer sales. Not government subsidies... When EV's become competitive enough to stand alone, that's fine. But taxpayers shouldn't be shouldering the burden of private industry...

[@CIAG4PNP]

Stop corporate welfare! Our government should not be giving taxpayers money to any company! Get Government out of the car business

[@waynek805]

Stop making the car companies conform to ridiculous CAFE numbers at the same time!! Roll them back to 1995 levels.

[@JKadison]

As someone who has spent his life working in the automotive industry, governments around the world have no business in the automotive business! Get rid of the EPA and taxpayer-funded rebates!

[@LehighValleyRailroad]

Governments around the world are only doing what the WEF & UN are telling then to do, it's all a scam.

[@northdakotaham1752]

​@@LehighValleyRailroadthe U.S. needs to tell the WEF and UN to go to hell.

[@marcscott4181]

I work in the biggest one in the UK ..Sunderland Nissan the japs depend on government funding to bail them out

[@waynek805]

EPA is a legitimate organization to ensure that actual pollution is controlled. BUT CO2 is not a pollutant (but rather an essential component of plant growth) and the EPA has no business controlling it!!

[@FlatPlaneCranky]

I’m tired of paying for other people’s shit.

[@trstrean]

Please enlighten us on how a credit works that you think you are paying for it. It reduces the buyer's tax liability.. it's similar to how millionaires and billionaires avoid paying any tax except in this case it is designed for poor people.

[@oliverheaviside2539]

@@trstrean it reduces the buyers’s tax liability. So they pay less tax. So, for govt revenue to break even, someone else has to pay more tax. Got it?

[@trstrean]

@oliverheaviside2539 nobody else pays more taxes because of the poor and middle class taking advantage of a credit that reduces their tax liability. Got it? If you are so worried about people not paying their fair share, why not focus on the people paying no taxes or far less as a percentage of their income. Get a single billionaire to pay the same percentage as the majority of Americans and it would fund the credit on its own. If you don't want the credit, don't apply for it. Personally, I think every tax break for the rich should be focused on before things that help the poor and middle class that haven't kept income pace with the oligarchy in this country...I mean CEOs and executives since in a capitalist country we don't call them oligarchs.

[@garyszewc3339]

​@@oliverheaviside2539if you want to drive a piece of shit EV, pay the cost.

[@joycepino5346]

Who made the standard? Can it be reversed? No government mandates on anything.

[@michaeljohnson4947]

Obama made them...he made them to only kick in when he's long gone. Democrats doubled down on them with "The Inflation Reduction Act"

[@waynek805]

CAFE standards are regulated by DOT’s National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA). This unelected body of the US federal government (along with the insidious California CARB group) has gone rogue and needs to be reigned in by the federal elected officials. Trump promises to do so, but time will tell........

[@FoxRob93]

No tax credit or self driving cars. Tax credits mean all tax payers are paying for them, I have no desire to own a EV I should not be paying for them in any fashion.

[@Veterans-e2c]

Amen 🙏

[@darrylhowe1465]

I agree with you on the "No Tax Credit"; however, the "self driving" can be a good thing. As a professional auto tech, I have experience with "self driving" cars and the technology (which is not perfect) is very good and keeps getting better. This means that our streets are getting safer thanks to this technology.

[@FoxRob93]

@darrylhowe1465 29 years I've been a Chrysler tech I see ADAS systems failing all the time. Let alone some of the aftermarket shops repairing them after a n accident.

[@doccalvin]

Eliminate all subsidies for all industries. Ultra MEGA MAGA is here!!

[@michaeljohnson4947]

Nooooo these regulations, and kickbacks are ruining the nation's finances.

[@WhittyPics]

Screw the corporate welfare to EV companies and the rich. Hybrids make a lot more sense though they can be damn expensive to repair when they get old

[@steven4315]

Unlike most tax credits, the EV credit ends in Dec, 2032. Automakers invested billions on that promise. How about we end the ethanol requirement?

[@orionbetelgeuse1937]

some of the automakers have ceo's which are woke and their goal is to end the cars (like the ceo of harley davidson) like mr tavares was on his way to close up stellantis

[@brianjosey8113]

I HATE self driving cars, it is the dumbest thing ever, if you do not know how to drive you do not belong on the road PERIOD!!!!, Its the same as getting rid of all police and mounting machine guns on poles every were and give control of those guns to AI and expect they will only shoot criminals, TOTAL B.S., I will never own or ride in a self driving car.

[@northdakotaham1752]

Self driving vehicles are a threat to public transportation and pedestrian traffic.

[@darksideblues135]

And kangaroos. Don't forget kangaroos.

[@patbarr1351]

" if you do not know how to drive you do not belong on the road PERIOD!!!!" So true. And yet we have drunk drivers every day, street takeovers many nights, and people falling asleep at the wheel of tractor-trailers. We shouldn't fear tech that may improve our lives.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@patbarr1351 ever hear of LAW ENFORCEMENT? Forget about defunding them and hire more of them. Simple solution. Also....build more prisons and mental institutions. Crime and mental illness are at record highs.

[@user-fq3uh7bt1t]

​@patbarr1351 But we should fear tech that controls our lives.

[@kengoetz4567]

Hopefully SCOTUS puts an end to CARB.

[@northdakotaham1752]

That would be HUGE!!

[@louismartinez592]

I think all car enthusiasts would love it!!!

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

CARB was supposed to be disbanded in 2020, but as usual the domestic terrorist left doesn't want to give up power.

[@oliverheaviside2539]

SCOTUS has no enforcement power. And several states have repeatedly passed laws in direct opposition to SCOTUS rulings, so CARB is unlike to be stopped.

[@Noah_E]

There is far too much greed in the auto industry currently. They looked around during COVID and realized people were willing to pay $10k more out of desperation so they added that much to every model. And dealers refusing to allow their cut to return to normal are making it even worse. People need to stop buying new cars for a year or two to remind them who holds the purse strings. Let lots fill with unsellable models and demand a return to rational prices and better quality. Even traditionally good brands like Honda and Toyota are turning to crap due to cost cutting that isn't passed along to the consumer. We're still paying top dollar for bottom of the barrel products.

[@northdakotaham1752]

Sounds nice....but when they fail financially the end result will be there will be no new vehicles at all and the prices on whatever is left will skyrocket. It's all about supply and demand. Fewer cars, higher prices.

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

Covid ruin the used car market

[@geraldscott4302]

EVs should be banned. Period. Manufacturing of EV batteries should also be banned. Not only are they extremely dangerous, but they are extremely damaging to the environment, from completed batteries to mining for the materials to make them. This EV nightmare needs to end now, and laws need to be passed to prevent it from ever happening again.

[@robertscott305]

The autonomous car is very easy. They're going to have a taxpayer, buy their vehicles through the government, and then they're going to charge you to ride in them. All you have to do, let's look at the solar panels in the wind farms that the taxpayers are paying for they're charging us a hundred percent for that power

[@johnandersonjjr]

Scrap the EV mandates and (gas guzzling stratospheric)emissions requirements Clyde

[@billbry]

My 2003 4x4 Chevy Duramax quad cab long box land ark with 340k on it keeps chugging along at 20.5 MPG like day one and I see no problems with it.. The 99-2006 days of engines are boss...

[@christophercharles3169]

They probably want to keep the subsidies so they can sell their current inventory and be done with EVs for good. It's been a nightmare for them.

[@globaleye8]

It's difficult to conceive anything more ridiculous than self driving cars - if you don't want to drive use public transport and stop wasting all this time and money pursuing a flawed technology...

[@flysinsoup]

Paying a membership to use a feature is dumb

[@northdakotaham1752]

Self driving vehicles are a catastrophic accident waiting to happen, very literally. It could be compared to somebody somewhat talented walking through a busy shopping mall with a jar of nitro glycerin balancing on top of their head. Will they make it....maybe. Or maybe not. Other shoppers lives are needlessly put at risk for a stupid stunt.

[@TeslaDo_d]

LOL! What little you know…LOL! My Tesla Model Y was in FSD and came to a nice complete stop at a red light a full 4 seconds before a distracted human driver hit me from behind on Saturday. Human drivers will soon be forced into extinction by insurance rates.

[@darksideblues135]

But your Tesla would hit a kangaroo in the road at full speed.

[@TeslaDo_d]

@@darksideblues135 I seriously doubt it. They're not much of a problem in upstate NY.

[@MidRiseDenseMixedUseWalkable]

Indeed EV tax credits have often disproportionately benefited higher-income households who can afford new electric cars. Us Urbanists propose redirecting some of these subsidies to expand transit systems , making them more affordable and accessible. Also letting city/town zoning maps build higher percentage mixed use for the freedom to not have to drive.

[@oliverheaviside2539]

You urbanites should pay for your own transit systems and not expect the rest of the population who will never use it to pay for it.

[@johnoberle9750]

The worse thing going is CAFE standards. They force automakers to build larger cars. Going by the wheel base foot print for the standard in MPG. You can’t buy a simple cheap compact pickup with a standard transmission anymore. We had better choices for efficiency in the 1980s . Safety standards I am for, but the rest let the industry build it as they see fit.

[@northdakotaham1752]

I agree except I think the 90s were the pinnacle of efficiency. The small trucks you mention all disappeared after 2000.

[@liberty0758]

They force automakers to build cars with a number of new safety features and requirements that nobody asked for. And to design such a car and put all that stuff in requires a bigger chasis.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@liberty0758 adding a few safety features like seat belts, shoulder restraints, air bags....is one thing. Now they want to monitor your travel, add cut off switches....they have gone too far.

[@liberty0758]

@@northdakotaham1752 oh absolutely. I was just pointing out why are cars getting bigger.

[@thomaslthomas1506]

Allow KEI trucks. And loosen BS safety requirements on certain classes of cars.

[@northdakotaham1752]

What is a KEI truck?

[@dawnrevestel4396]

Dump the subsidies, the rich don't need welfare.

[@oliverheaviside2539]

It’s not about corporate welfare, it’s about social engineering.

[@allin4once]

This is government warse. There never should have been a EV credit unless the government had a surplus, LMAO, and that is unlikely, and even if they got one, paying debt back would be a far wiser investment.

[@1man2many]

I still have not heard a satisfactory answer to the question: If a self driving car causes an accident, who is responsible? ie who PAYS? Maybe a viewer has the answer? Will this increase everyone's insurance premiums- probably. How do you prove the OTHER CAR had a transient malfunction of sensor, camera or whatever? As for EVs, let the rich folk buy them on their own. As for hybrids- why? Duplicate systems are generally a poor substitute for reliability from an engineering standpoint. END the WEF meddling, that what is driving all of this, pun intended.

[@ChasingDifferentAdventures]

There are 2 cases where if 1 small dent that probably was there from previous owner. Will cost $60,000 ( Canadian Dollars) or $44,000 US Dollars, to replace the Battery 🔋 Packs after 1st Service. Hyundai, and all other Electric Vehicle's. Replace the whole battery 🔋 Packs, and not portions of it like a Tesla service Technicians. With Hyundai Ionic they don't honor warranty if damaged occurs, and Insurance totals it. In YT there was UBER drivers who replaced the Tesla's within 2 year's. Just before 100,000 miles. They regret the 3rd year of ownership and still making payments on it, for 2 extra years. With possible replacement of $25,000 battery cost $8,900 & tech labour's is always 90% of the cost. 2 battery replacement means waste, damaging the Environment including Water Resources 💧. There were 4 Recycling ♻️ Centers in the United States. Note none are in California, due to Environmental Impact. Now only 1 is in operation. This year 2 burned down in March Phoenix Arizona, November Missouri, with 202p Illinois facilities burned twice. Hard to believe 1 Electric Vehicle is more Toxic to the Environment than all V8's ever made combined. Don't believe me look up : " Missouri Lithium Recycling Plant Explosion - Analysis " it shows dead Fish 🐟. Reasons : Reasons Fire crews dousing water in to fire's to maintain area cool as Lithium burned out. For 10 days the crews Sprayed the Granulated Minerals into Creeks, Rivers, and Lakes . Environmental assessment dead fish 🐟, and well and Faucet Tap Water was Polluted to where boiling won't purify the Water. I would say that cleaning air, has been to the best it will ever get. China is still the dirtiest air industrial country blowing across Pacific Ocean. Like Sahara sand blowing to Florida. I remember 1980's, in El Monte California you couldn't see the Mountains. Now they are very clear though, obscured by Dreaging Quarry in Irwindale, Duarte, area from 10 on 605 to 210 freeways. I live in the area and had a black Mustang. 10 minutes after washing, it was full of dust. . The EPA measures the Carbon in the Air and blame cars. They have to Add China and the 69 Volcanoes 🌋 all over the spewing Magma and Smoke Ash, Sulfur as well. They can't take away my much cleaner reliable V8, Mustang. It has 113,000 miles with no Leaks . V8's Forever! 🇺🇸👦👍🏎🏁🚩

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

They also ignore that 1 wildfire creates more pollution than all the cars in the US combined states like California with poets only measure the pollution from cargo ships when they are 10 miles or less off shore. California imports 90% of the oil they us for fuel manufacturing despite have one of the largest oil reserves in the country. Its all a scam.

[@professionalelectronics3158]

They're only saying that to get their ESG scores up and loans down.

[@Gadfly2025]

15 years of double stimulus to EVs is enough. They sell carbon credits and large IC makers have to buy and they pass this to buyers . STOP 🛑 DOUBLE HIDDEN TAX on autos

[@leepowell6754]

Tax credits, subsidies and mandates have taken EVs from a mildly entertaining joke to a real annoyance. Really don't care if someone wants to feed their smug with a - *snort* - "zero emissions" vehicle. Just do it on your own dime.

[@rcclitherow6707]

Taxpayer subsidized toys are not the taxpayer's responsibility! It is far more efficient to do away with the EPA!!

[@aliendroneservices6621]

4:07 4:10 4:11 Comprise. Will *_comprise._* (Not "compromise".)

[@pascalouellette8516]

EV are either better to buy or not, the consumers should decide, not our tax money via the useless government

[@deansapp4635]

If you can t or won t drive, Take mass transit

[@donp.8172]

What a mess, keep on voting Democrat (and swamp) fascism out of power, that's what needs to happen.

[@flysinsoup]

Let’s vote for the rich who still won’t do sh!t. Yea that is smart.

[@michaeljohnson4947]

The Democrats did this, as a way of jamming back door communism down our throats.

[@Aaron50412]

These automakers are pissing in the wind with Trump. They either make what consumers want or they won't be around much longer. Trump may also do away with green credits in the US since he doesn't care what other countries do. He'll drive these foreign automakers to become US companies.

[@richardnwilson]

At the end of November Cox Automotive recorded a 13.6% increase year over year for Ev sales. Not as high rate of growth as expected but certainly very strong demand. Way better than ice vehicles.

[@opencarry3860]

BEVs suck!

[@HassanNerida]

I really appreciate your efforts! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

[@seymorefact4333]

😂Laura ... tell the people.... it's called American subsides... good ole American GOVT subsides. EV will sell if it's sub $30k. The VW buzz at $80k and 200 mile range.. is an example of why EVs don't sell.

[@northdakotaham1752]

They won't sell at any price if they don't work or fail to compare with ICE performance, endurance.

[@seymorefact4333]

@@northdakotaham1752 EVs already have more torque and better 0-60 time! ICE v12s can't do 0-60 in 3secs. EVs can! We sanction Chinese evs...and they have 8 min., 0 to 100% charging and superior charging infrastructure. ITS out there...BUT, AMERICA is sooo BROKE, corrupt, and backwards.

[@patbarr1351]

@@northdakotaham1752 EVs typically outperform gasoline cars & need less maintenance.

[@northdakotaham1752]

@@patbarr1351 ENDURANCE...is a component of PERFORMANCE. EVs SEVERELY lack endurance. So much so that nearly nobody can sell one in today's car market.

[@patbarr1351]

@@northdakotaham1752 I'm not sure why you say that. I see 10-year-old Nissan Leafs frequently (they are cheap to buy & still have enough range for city commuting) here in So Cal. There are many YT posts from Tesla owners with over 100k miles that have 90% of battery range.

[@williamearnshaw3030]

This is costly the auto industry did a stupid thing and listen to Biden!! A pick-up truck is 60-80 grand i don't feel sorry for them 😮

[@stream1entertainment]

What auto manufacturers and corporate owners want, is different than what the American people want.

[@Rich102252]

THANK YOU THANK YOU for telling everyone there's no such thing a Fossil Fuels. FINALLY people can wake up to reality. *!!!!*

[@learninghowtodothis8062]

It seems that every time that new technology is added to these vehicles, the reliability goes down and the expense to repair them goes up.

[@cool2180]

Who the heck wants self driving cars. No thanks

[@user-fq3uh7bt1t]

Apparently driving is hard 🙄

[@LuisUrbieta]

We should move from cars to bikes, scooters, or walking. We should let those automakers make more bikes, scooters, or skateboards to transport ourselves. Plz replay.

[@Shakerhood69]

Zero chance of people trying to drive scooters or bikes in the winter or rain, especially older people, or people with children.

[@paveldrechsler2620]

Yeah, that would work really well Minnesota, Montana, Wyoming... and elderly people everywhere, you get my drift

[@thomaslthomas1506]

That'd work great in Vermont. Only 30% of the roads are even paved. And it gets -35f below here.

[@DHW256]

LOL! The government push for EVs is a ruse for mass transit, otherwise remanding the masses to bikes, scooters, or walking. How 'bout getting rid of all the government force-pleasing, fomenting doom at the behest of contextual frauds like "climate change"?

[@DennisKrok-s6p]

You clearly do not have a family and Uber eats can't take your kids to a hockey practice.

[@antontsau]

They invested huge money to project to make cars for govt, not to consumers, and now everything crashes? Aaaaaaaa we are bancrupts!

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

If the product was in our best interest, it would sell itself on a level playing field.

[@boostedmaniac]

I just want a simple car. Don’t want or need auto braking, don’t want an EV, don’t want self driving, don’t want a tiny turbo engine to satisfy some ridiculous mpg standard, and don’t want auto start stop. Make cars simple and affordable again.

[@chrissmith2114]

EV are just a 'remote emission vehicle'

[@mikelyon5595]

Mush! End EV mandates!

[@ddyeo503]

If they get rid of mandates to end gas and diesel cars by 2030-2035, that is much more important than the argument about incentives to buy EV's. But they should get rid of both of them,,,,,,,,,,

[@northdakotaham1752]

Fossil fuels are a national security issue.

[@peterf.4268]

They want the EV tax credit because without it, people won't buy those cars.

[@bobdavis3357]

628th thumbs-up!!! Trump needs to remove the mandates, every mandate. ASAP

[@kevinc-727]

we should follow Norway's success and encourage EV's, HV's, PHEV's, so more oil can be exported for help trade imbalance, instead of consumed.

[@hphillips7425]

Car manufacturers should not get anymore of my tax dollars

[@jimyoung-h3z]

No tax credits for anything, free markets don't need give aways

[@bobriemersma]

How about we raise the requirements for a driver's license and skip the costly automation and "assistance" entirely?

[@garyolafson8303]

Yes, Hybrid's make more sense than BEV's especially in very cold climates like Minneapolis & St Paul MN; with detached garages (& maybe also old apartment blog's with (1) underground open parking garage)

[@northdakotaham1752]

They still have lithium batteries and spontaneously combust creating a fire hazard. Somebody has to develop a battery that is more safe. Meanwhile, keep driving your ICE.

[@michaeljohnson4947]

People only want hybrids, because they're not quite as bad a battery electric. The;re still overly complex, unreliable junk.

[@darksideblues135]

No. Hybrids are junk. Let's compare two super cars. The C8 corvette is naturally aspirated and has a v8 with 495 horsepower. Goes from zero to sixty in about 2.8 seconds. The Lamborghini Temerario is a hybrid, with twin turbo v8 producing about 960 horsepower. It can go from zero to sixty in 2.8 seconds. So, due to the extra weight of the battery and motors for the electric part, the car needs to almost double the horsepower to get the same performance that a simple na v8 can do. Hybrids are junk.

[@patbarr1351]

@@northdakotaham1752 That "spontaneously combust" idea is somewhat of a myth. It's rare in EVs and certainly not unheard of in gasoline powered cars, some of which have been recalled for this problem. (NHTSA 2023: "Owners of the approximately 1.64 million select Hyundai and Genesis vehicles listed below should park their vehicles outside and away from homes until their vehicles have been repaired, due to a new recall for the risk of fire.")

[@jamesclapp6940]

AS A LONG TIME ice OPERATOR I disagree that ev owners should NOT recieve a tax credit!

[@MrHotrodder1964]

EV's suck

[@B49nope]

NO more "tax credits"!!!

[@lesklower7281]

There are many car companies in trouble because the investment in EVs and they are not selling well and people don't want to be forced into buying EVs

[@MrDaveaccord]

Let the consumers and the marketplace decide what manufacturers build not politicians, bureaucrats in Washington, and especially the President. It's called free market capitalism.

[@Piecenotwar]

Oil companies are some of the most subsidised companies on earth, diverting some of those subsidies to EV manufacturers and help them compete with China because they are going to need it if you want jobs and manufacturing outside of China.

[@Veterans-e2c]

Just got a 2025 type R at msrp! Oh yea the FEPA, FCARB!

[@jamietoro8373]

Why should tax payers subsidize any car company. Can't survive go out of business.

[@chrissmith2114]

GM just pulled out of self driving cars....

[@terrymoorecnc2500]

The car company's aren't taking a loss. The rolling data collection, software defined vehicles they are producing, generate more revenue than the manufacturing process produces.

[@dwaynenewton1]

Impose tariffs on foreign automakers and use that to incentivize new car sales for cars made in america. No special incentives for electric.

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

The people have spoken. We don't want or need ev's

[@Gadfly2025]

Let’s make all cars $7,500 stimulus. Taxpayers deserve some too

[@patbarr1351]

erm... taxpayers pay for the subsidies.

[@Gadfly2025]

@ and IC cars have to pay hidden CO2 tax passed to buyers . Why v6 v8 cars get big price bump $$

[@V8MUSCLE666]

Electric cars are gay

[@darrylhowe1465]

To be "fair", President Trump and Congress should take a page from the Democrat play book. They should give financial support to Tesla ONLY. This in response to the previous federal funding given to everyone EXCEPT Tesla.

[@keepmovin1320]

I hope Trump eliminates the EV tax credits along with the EV mandates and get rid of emissions standards and CARB

[@justinjones6810]

The tax credits need to go there are 2 ways manufacturers can make ev's and get around not needing tax credits first way is to make affordable ev's first then reinvest the money they make into other more expensive models of the lineup and the 2nd way is to have two auto makers cocreate ev vehicles and split the research and development costs between the two manufacturers therefore they are able to sell to the customer at a cheaper price

[@northdakotaham1752]

Nobody wants the EVs....they already wasted enough money on that failed experiment.

[@ronsilva516]

Who wants an electric ? Now as for the company who wants self driving cars and and auto autonomous breaking the reason why he sent a letter because he’s getting a fat paycheck and he don’t want to lose that fat paycheck. That’s all that’s about. It’s not about China.

[@jimfarmer7811]

With musk pulling the strings I suspect that trump will reverse course and keep the tax credit.

[@zzzoo2]

Just get the government out of the business world. That will also get business out of government.

[@nomore9004]

How?

[@drdetroitwheels]

Again I'm not trying to buy a $100,000 electric car that can not do what a 50,000 engine car can do as we call people call them ice motors which stands for internal combustion meet I plan to buy the the new Plymouth barracuda turn of a Plymouth product in 25 years and my friend is going to be the CEO heading up that division I will not give you his name it'll come out in due time but I've known the man for over 25 years

[@brettloo7588]

Good technology will have buyers w/o being supported by free money! EVs in cold environments are STUPID with the current technology.

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

4:10 I wish we wouldn't treat EVs like a tribal issue..... diversity in our power train is a good thing. I agree that mandates are bad but the tax credit directly puts money in our own economy.

[@DHW256]

It's rentseeking.

[@terryschnereger8531]

Obiden spoiled them for so many years, no wonder why.

[@RENRAW111]

I have watched you for many years now. I always enjoy the things you say. But saying those truths about so called fossil fuels, makes me like you all the more. So Thank you for that. P.S. Half my Family is from your neck of the woods. Buffalo, if I remember correctly? Thank you again!

[@us1fedvet]

Uh, no. Let customer demand drive this, not the gubmint

[@jamesocker5235]

useless credits do nothing but line manufactures with tax dollars they don't deserve, they build crap cars in general and credits reward them for building crap EVs. Ev's are a failure anyway so they don't need any more money

[@strikeryachts]

Corporate Welfare

[@mongo64071]

Why are self driving cars only EVs? Why can’t gas cars be autonomous? I don’t understand why it’s mutually exclusive based on powertrain.

[@iand654456]

We have diesel cars that get 100mpg why are pushing hybrids that get half that. Make it make sense.

[@matthewhirons7756]

EV’s are toys.

[@ctclardy]

I'm all for EVs being part of the power mix in automobiles and trucks. However, I believe market forces and not government mandates need to be the deciding factor on the percentage mix. Toyota made the smart move going hybrids first and allowing a market shake-out before going all-in on EVs. A dominant EV market probably won't be a reality until around 2050, if ever.

[@leepowell6754]

Toyota's smart move was not giving people a gas version of the Prius to compare to. Honda made it easy, Civic hybrid vs Civic gas only. Not such a great deal. An issue of the Reading (PA) Eagle had a column by one their staff who *loved* her Civic hybrid except she was angry the tire store put the wrong tires on it & she lost 10 mpg. Emailed telling her she should be angry she paid 4 or 5 grand for a set of special tires 'cause now she was getting the same mpg as the gas only car😆. Didn't hear back.

[@northdakotaham1752]

If hybrids are the future, somebody is going to have to create a new battery that .1) Doesn't require hundreds of tons of material refines to obtain a few pounds of needed metal .2) invent a battery that does not self ignite by spontaneous combustion. Those two requirements don't currently exist and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them bc there's this little issue of physics involved, properties of known elements etc.

[@jordancambridge4106]

The oldest electric car still on the road has had its engine replaced 14 times and has had 37 battery replacements and it was made in 2012. Its 12 years old and its had its engine replaced 14 times and its battery replaced 37 times. Electric vehicles haven't gotten any better well not much. You basically get 4 to 8 months per battery and 8 to 14 months per electric engine. Lets talk about if it was a gas vehicle. Imagine having to replace the gas tank every 4 to 8 months and replacing the entire engine and everything under the hood of a car every year. Moronic right? lets look at gas vehicles for example. Gas cars made in 1800s have never had to replace vital parts of a car like the engine. In a gas vehicle replacing the engine means the entire vehicle is classified as toddled. Replacing a gas tank is not ever done ever in gas vehicles. Imagine telling someone oh you see that vital part of the vehicle that never needs replacing and we don't make replacement parts for it because making a replacement part like that means blatantly that the vehicle is dead and you should get a new one yea we are making these disposable. There are 3 main parts of a vehicle: 1: The engine and every thing under the hood, 2: the gas tank and everything under the body, 3: the body of the car including wheels. Now imagine someone tells you 2 of the 3 most vital parts of the vehicle are disposable items that you need to change like how you change a coffee filter when making a cup of coffee. How stupid does someone have to be to think this shit is good at all? Hell also here is a stupid fact. The electric vehicle engine is 98% plastic made from gasoline, 93% of the battery is made of plastic made from gasoline. Frames of electric vehicles don't have metal roofs because making a metal roof would put too much weight on the room and cause these unbalanced big go carts to flip over which the weight is mostly in the battery which would kill the person inside the vehicle. So turns out Electric vehicles are extremely dangerous and they have 0% chance of living if they flip at all.

[@kevinKILLJOY-qx2lx]

👍👍👍

[@DianeDansereau]

What will happened if you put your exhaust directly in your car and close all windows ? What that's means, ICE vehicule polute the air that we breath. Cut the $ 7,500. YES, Add a special tax for ICE vehicule because they polute and cut all credit to Oil Cies; that alone will make fuel price were it should be and VE will be the obvious thing to buy.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Purity test. Any vehicle with tires and/or paint also directly emits air pollution. Name anyone killed by the exhaust emitted from *_any_* Toyota Hybrid.

[@DianeDansereau]

@@aliendroneservices6621 realy, you are serious...????

[@polska905]

Esg

[@Echo4Sierra4160]

Self driving cars might be here in the next century