Why Do We Glamorize Serial Killers?

[@thijsbakker9799]

I'm seriously shocked. Dressing up as the victims is honestly so fucked up.

[@shrekandfionasdivorcefiles1762]

omg kyle pfp slay

[@waitwhat959]

It’s quite offensive too in my opinion. Imagine being the parent of the victim and u see fans of the person who killed your child. I would hate that

[@taylermuilenburg5029]

WHAT? Why would people do that?

[@monkeydluffy1695]

@@waitwhat959 Truly, how can you react to something like that?

[@yeehawheartz]

my jaw is on the FLOOR because OH MY GOD ?? WHAT THE HELL ??

[@Kelly-ju7nx]

“I can fix him 😩🤚” Girlie, that mortician is gonna fix you if you keep fucking with these serial killers 💀☠️

[@lucyhill9125]

lmaooo-- underrated comment

[@nobitches9828]

Stealing this quote 😭😭

[@lifeispeachy_]

@@lucyhill9125 _very_ underrated

[@_..jolene.._]

These comment needs more likes like omg

[@Kelly-ju7nx]

@Coracias Bird oh my 😳 hello fellow HC fan! finding one of us is equivalent to finding a unicorn LOL

[@Kelly-ju7nx]

Somebody once called me a “moral puritan” because I said stanning actual serial killers is bad 💀

[@Anusha-fv8tz]

these days they'll call that anyone who has morals 💀

[@liyahliyah694]

Wow ....genuinely have no words what?😂

[@daniboy4153]

Well.. Stanning serial killers and school shooters is now a personality trait

[@nithi9638]

Shouldn't we all be moral puritans tho? Like as opposed to what Katie? Not having morals??

[@daniboy4153]

@@nithi9638 Yes it's basic humanity to have morals, but I guess not having morals is the new weird now.

[@grenadine-sunshine6147]

why be attracted to serial killers when u can simply be attracted to every single character that Emily plays-

[@kowsik9989]

Love this comment ❤️🙂

[@bannedmann4469]

Close enough...

[@nerdy_.rockstar8254]

even the serial killer one

[@ilovesushi6100]

I'm just attracted to Emily she's so beautiful 😍

[@the_day_you_try388]

*coff* wut not me just a simple man huh…

[@t.h.e.weasel1337]

"You don't have to be so judgmental..." "I'm literally a Judge." LMAO!

[@adov323]

KILLED ME

[@bangchanshairfollicle]

and also the YASS KING LMAOOOO

[@ddjsoyenby]

"ok so i k1ll3d 12 women in my basement, who did i hurt" "the women you k1ll3d you psycho"

[@sirsnakespeare]

A judge, a lawyer and an excecutioner!

[@faerie3873]

​@@bangchanshairfollicleLMFAO

[@caspercascade4623]

love that "tcc" can either stand for "teacher crush community" or "true crime community" and oh boy both are super concerning

[@snakes7303]

EXACTLY. Being into law and studying cases, normal. This stuff?? NOT NORMAL.

[@peppito8408]

Not all the tcc comunity are weirdos who fetishized actual murderers, i think it’s interesting to study those type of person for the psycological aspect of it

[@caspercascade4623]

@@peppito8408 oh yeah I understand that side of it, it can be super interesting, it's just when it turns into a "fandom" yaknow

[@coralline1984]

I mean, having a crush on your teacher is actually normal. Acting upon it however is weird, and creepy.

[@snakes7303]

@@coralline1984 yes, thank you. when people act on it, then it becomes strange

[@jublinn]

whoever showed up to Ted Bundy's court trial dressed as his VICTIMS is absolutely disgusting. like, what were they thinking? not only is it disgusting but it's insanely disrespectful to the victim and their family. i just want to know what went through their minds as they got their "costume" together.

[@taylermuilenburg5029]

I know?

[@juicypoet]

it's messed up beyond belief 😭 and he was already narcissistic enough without these ppl literally worshipping him

[@kelleyreeves965]

Wtf? Makes me wonder if they hope Bundy will find them attractive or something. Maybe they think he killed women he was attracted to (because he would put makeup on their bodies and engage in necrophilic acts). Those women are so delusional

[@everything5066]

Ikrr it makes me want to scream

[@mielipuolisiili7240]

I knew already that serial killers have fans (I used to be one back when I was young and edgy) but that one shocked me a bit too. Sounds just so wrong on so many ways.

[@agatahighstein]

it is actually horrendous that anybody could be so out of it that they could become a fan of a serial killer. And the disrespect of those girls who went to Bundy‘s trial dressed like his victims. Imagine how awful it would be for the family members of the victim to see, at the trial of the person who literally murdered your family member, people showing up and cheering for him and literally dressing as your dead family member. That is so awful I did not even know that existed like how on earth are people that twisted. It’s horrifying.

[@itscherylplayz8925]

That's messed up

[@sashhhaa4874]

ikr how were they not scared to be in his presence

[@latayesha]

@@sashhhaa4874 they're sick

[@veeya9188]

Doesn’t Ted Bundy **** his victims? I don’t get the logic within these people.

[@ya_done]

@@sashhhaa4874 They are similiar.👀

[@awaywiththefaeries9464]

“You know, apparently stabbing a lot of people is a real chick magnet.” Quote of the year right here.

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@TheGalacticCat]

and the year just started

[@ddjsoyenby]

when they do it's s3xy, but when i d..........on't do it i have never done it, AND YOU CAN'T PROVE IT!

[@serena841]

@@ddjsoyenby 👮👮👮

[@faerie3873]

real

[@Julia-xl7hj]

“You’re right, we should go with Scarlet Johansson.” SCREAMING

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@teumeato]

💀💀

[@glitterwizard4265]

Fr

[@jellyfishlotusdream]

@@teumeato omg hello fellow teume! 🥲

[@teumeato]

@@jellyfishlotusdream hey there ✨✨

[@lolobug5976]

i just wanted to put this out there. richard ramirez, never brushed his teeth. they were literally rotting out of his mouth. so not only is it disrespectful to the victims and their families to "crush'" on serial killers but its disgusting. DONT SIMP OVER SERIAL KILLERS

[@human9460]

That´s all I can think about during this video 😭

[@wherethehellispaula]

Yeah, not only that. He also used a nailfile to make his teeth sharp, to look scary

[@wapaloosie9512]

One thing that I hate about Richard Ramirez is the cool name the media gave him. "Night Stalker" is way too cool of a name for a serial killer. We shouldn't be glorifying murderers by giving them cool ass names. I only ever refer to him as "bad breath boy"

[@apexyl5135]

That’s actually how they almost caught Ramirez. They found a receipt to a dental office in a car he had stolen, but because of particular issues, when Richard showed back up to get some really painful tooth issue fixed, the alarm that the police had set up for the dentist malfunctioned and he got away for a long time later.

[@Maria_745]

The way the stans chose to post the mugshot pics with his mouth closed 💀

[@gloomy_shroom]

The person is like, “how am I meant to find a boyfriend when all I think of is Richard” bro you need to find therapy…

[@clartblart3266]

I mean, it's a good thing that she isn't looking for a boyfriend... otherwise that poor guy might end up murdered himself

[@joshuacoleman8000]

@@clartblart3266 That's one way of looking at it.

[@jovietheelf3356]

I feel like people don’t get that these were real lives that were taken. It’s different if it’s someone completely fictional that killed people in a TV show but these are actual people with actual victims.

[@Milonification]

In that case it's still kinda disturbing if you stan them

[@ANABeachGirl]

@@Milonification I think it depends on whether they like them as a character or as a person. I like some characters that are twisted but they add to the overall story or act interesting, but I don’t typically like them as a person nor do I agree with what they do. Some fans of those characters actually like them as a person and end up excusing or sympathizing their horrid deeds which is where it gets a bit problematic.

[@ANABeachGirl]

@@Milonification A good character doesn’t necessarily mean they’re a good person. For example, liking the villains of some stories. They’re seen as cool characters but not as good people. Someone thinking that they were a good person when they killed innocent people is when gets disturbing.

[@jovietheelf3356]

@@ANABeachGirl exactly. This is what I meant I just didn’t know how to explain it that well!

[@dmtrv.m]

@@Milonification nah man. i enjoy watching violence and disturbing shit (with some exceptions, i can’t take everything) BUT ONLY WHEN IT’S FICTIONAL. you can catch me rooting for the bad guy in a movie, because none of what happens there is real and no one is actually being hurt. but ppl who glamorize real serial killers, who have taken so many innocent people’s lives and all? they don’t even deserve me spitting on them. this is a call for help, they need serious psychological help.

[@sun-hi111]

I just wanna know why they gave RR a cool nickname, like "the night stalker" is a freaking cool name couldn't they just call him stinky breath or smtn

[@clartblart3266]

Why? Cause he didn't brush his teeth and they were rotting?

[@overthinker5805]

@@clartblart3266 nah it’s just more lame lol

[@rheam9391]

Rotten toothed richie?

[@clartblart3266]

@@overthinker5805 No, but he legitimately didn't brush his teeth lol

[@sun-hi111]

@@clartblart3266 yeah lol and he got caught because of it

[@selectedshipper8282]

I really appreciate the trigger warning for both killers and cereal

[@It_is_Okay_to_be_Sad]

I smell an underrated comment... 🤣

[@missdemeanor608]

@ ?

[@missdemeanor608]

@ yes I know that and thank God its ajoke cuz like what psychopath would put their fish in cehrrios

[@_..jolene.._]

@ I put mine in a box of cheerios and it flew away! Me and you just have bad luck with fish and cheerios. :0

[@selectedshipper8282]

“You don’t have to be judgemental” “I’m literally a judge” I’m dead

[@luigitho9560]

The irony lol

[@jazleen8253]

“you don’t have to be so judgmental😒” “i’m literally a judge” HELP ME IMAO

[@yuyanchung1918]

Someone needs to find a way to get rid of the 60% water in the human body and replace it with holy water, specifically for these types of people who glamorize serial killers and other bad people.

[@sashhhaa4874]

THIS 😭

[@KingOfNothingLR]

There is also a lot of feces in holy water

[@xthalieee]

"as far as who's gonna be playing me in my biopic, I'm thinking Lucy Liu or Grace Park--" "I'm sorry-- are you insane?!" "You're right, we should go with Scarlett Johansson" PLEAAASE THIS HAD ME CACKLING

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@cottoncandytommy454]

Scarlett Joh Han Son unnie 💀💀💀

[@mirrorball_12]

This really helped, I am having the worst panic attack and your hilarious humour really helped, thanks Emily❤️ but I think these people really need help😶

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@phyzarel1845]

I hope you feel better asap, ik how bad panic attacks can be 💖

[@maddiemoon73]

hope you’re feeling better!!

[@miesha.b8740]

Awww I hope you’re ok now love 🙏🏾❤️

[@abhipsha5166]

Hey how’re you holding up?

[@smhemily]

I was friends with someone who joined the serial killer "fandom". As I look back on it, I think she only signed up for 3 reasons: 1) she thought thought the killers were attractive 2) she was depressed 3) she didn't get attention from attractive boys in real life and murder fell into the "any attention is good attention". I wish I had said more at the time as she was obviously going through some stuff, but she was *too* deep into it by the time I found out when I was 13.

[@jj6148]

That's depressing.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Do you know if she got out?

[@pineddew]

Depressed got nothin to do w it bestie. Either this girlie was lying about being depressed like every tumblr girl, or she had something else which wasn’t depression. Take it from me , I used to struggle with depression as bad as my period cramps on my 3rd day, I NOT ONCE a thought it would be fun and cute to even THINK about dating a serial killer. Nah bro get those crusty smelly blood stained fingers away from me at all times

[@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376]

@@pineddew Nice try. You can't speak for a group of millions of people.

[@demonknight5617]

@@pineddew I'm not trying to justify their ex-friend for crushing on serial killers, but you do know that everybody has different experiences with depression? Some people with depression would fall into the rabbit hole of serial killers because the op just gave the reasons in their comment: no romantic attention from people, and bad attention at least equals attention. This isn't to say that their ex-friend isn't crazy though for crushing on serial killers. Just everyone goes through different experiences when having depression.

[@nah649]

4:59 - This is why i rlly appreciated when Jacinda Ardern the Prime Minister of New Zealand tried her absolute best to ensure no one knew the name of the murderer in Christ Church. She put more emphasis on sympathising with the victims and the close relatives of those victims whose lives were taken in a disastrous event. Thats why its better to not romanticize murderers, disgusting.

[@rheam9391]

They should also stop giving them stylish names? Midnight killer...shit like that? Just name them something embarrassing like rottenteeth richard !

[@enciclopedic4]

@@rheam9391 HAHAHAHHAAHHA like old west characters

[@toomessy]

I definitely agree with doing this, but I have to wonder...if he ends up being released early, or maybe for "good behavior" or for some other bullshit like that, wouldn't it be safer to let others know his name to potentially make sure everyone stays far away? Or is New Zealand better at keeping their serial killers locked up forever and always?

[@bannedmann4469]

Sure, but you just called him the Christ Church shooter. Can't really be avoided, just minimized.

[@IATEALLTHECHEESE]

As a New Zealander who did an assignment on discrimination last year, his name is on Wikipedia though.

[@emitheorbit1118]

The weirdest part for me is that those killers are not even that handsome as they make it out to be, they’re just conventionally attractive.

[@Blindinglights25]

Most of them are even under that

[@kingayy9267]

They're better looking than the others. Eg: Gary Ridgway, Dennis Rader, etc.

[@poopoo8475]

ted bundy looks like my schools IT guy

[@adrianj6795]

Most are downright ugly lol

[@clartblart3266]

They're not even attractive and even if they were...how can someone be attracted to a murderer???

[@orangesky8864]

I have a lot of problems with the current state of true crime, even outside these strange murderer stans... Imagine going through a horrible tragedy only for people on the internet to be openly speculating "who did it", acting like they understand your life and circumstances from a documentary and perhaps even going so far as to harass you in real life.

[@ANABeachGirl]

I agree wholeheartedly! I LOVE mystery stories and games since I was kid with magic tree house and Nancy Drew, but I could never get into “true crime”. I tried watching one documentary and it just creeped me out like- these are REAL PEOPLE! And they are just casually describing them being brutally murdered like they were reading a story and not a real life tragedy. I was horrified by how many people were casually theorizing about that one vloggers death a few months ago like it was a fun piece of entertainment and not someone who died less than a week ago… I feel for these people’s families…

[@ANABeachGirl]

NOT TO MENTION! That these true crime internet “documentaries” probably don’t ask the victim’s family for permission. Like, imagine financially profiting off of people’s tragedies without asking the family for consent.

[@AlottaBoulchit]

That's a problem folks had with the recent Gabby Petito case. Folks were yammering on about it like it was a true crime game or something and it was upsetting lots of folks.

[@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376]

Idk about you, but I'd want people to speculate about my dead family member. The worst thing that could happen in my eyes is having their name forgotten. Being forgotten is a second death and it's not fair to the victims who never got to finish their story.

[@sloanelaker1130]

@@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376 I replied to ur comment in another post, dude u keep defending these serial killers in the pretense of supporting and remembering the victims as if that is even done anyways right now, most people know f*** ALL about the victims.... I mean ffs u are here watching a video primarily about these killers not their victims that should show u enough about who is really being remembered, and to make it worse its one about them being glorified sex symbols while the victims are rarely mentioned other than to extend these killers stories, all the attention goes to one person and u are here with chest, pretending like it doesnt its really upsetting. And what are u on about being forgotten, if I got raped, cut into pieces, eaten and etc I would rather the person who did that shit to me not get the satisfaction of ever being given coverage cause that's what they want, to get attention from my pain and torture, and you lot give them that shit while pretending to uphold the victims, it's sucks, stop pretending to care about the victims when u clearly don't. Besides, no one wants to be remembered like that, as a part of a story of some sick f***, a piece of his puzzle, we would all want to be remembered for the person we were before this bullshit, and by the people that actually loved and cared about us, the ones who will genuinely carry the memories of our TRUE self forever, not some randoms on the internet who ocassionally use our pain as a bed time story when they are having insomnia, or as a topic of discussion about gruesome events over lunch with their buddies, or by people who use our pain as a base of entertainment for greedy companies to make money and capitalist consumers to be entertained when there is nothing else to watch on Netflix, and at the end, they pour out some brittle sympathy for us and move on with their lives. If that's what remembering is, forget me! I will be remembered by the ones who mattered the most anyway. Especially since most people/shows/etc's "remembering" highlights the criminal more than all the people who he/she caused so much pain? Smh F that, FORGET ME! And again as I said in the other post, erasure of murders doesn't mean erasure of victims, u can go WITHOUT GIVING attention to killers and still keep the victims alive.

[@phyzarel1845]

So I’m not crazy for thinking Tate is extremely scary, creepy, and the biggest red flag in the universe, good to know.

[@_..jolene.._]

I’ve never seen the show, but didn’t he like sh00t up a school?

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

@@_..jolene.._ Yes, he did.

[@nyx8633]

Evan Peters is really hot tho Tate Langdon aside. couldn’t they just stan him as the boy from coven or kit in asylum 😭

[@kulturalkontrariankomedy]

Same for Jordan Peterson

[@lionbone.s]

i love evan peters so much

[@gordiithefrog036]

"hot people stan richard ramirez" no, hot people have morals and know that killing people isn't a silly quirky trick

[@Monk3yheheh]

Yeah only people who need therapy have crush on serial killers

[@mickey040404]

a side note: im so happy to see how much you've grown after grinding youtube for a while! it took way too long for people to catch on, but your audience has grown so much- very deserved (: ✨✨

[@derboe_thebeast6869]

I was watching her old vids and then she started being active which shook me because i want ed to binge the entire channel 😳

[@foxprincess6025]

The number of likes on this coment is literally perfect

[@canyounotlookhere]

she deserves atleast a million subs, youtube, do your thing 😔

[@pinkcat1847]

This comment made me realise that I'm not subscribed for some reason, likeee wtf me

[@moonknight5743]

Yes i just found her a week ago i agree with almost all of what she says in her videos

[@kseniav586]

Oh my god YES, no publicity for serial killers please. In Ancient Rome there was a punishment called -damnatio memorae-. The name of a person would be erased from every source imaginable and never mentioned again. I think it's a proper thing to do with criminals like this - never mention their names again. Museums often do this when vandalism happens and they're right.

[@charles-elizabethniang1553]

We should do that again for all murderers, terrorists...

[@riddlesangerissues3127]

What crime would a person commit to receive that kind of erasure?

[@kseniav586]

@@riddlesangerissues3127 it's difficult to say with any certainty, because if the punishment was successful, the accounts would be gone as well. there were no explicit law on damnatio memorae. far as we know, the senate and later emperor could use this in exceptional circumstances.

[@ireevent4299]

@@riddlesangerissues3127 Thats a scary thaught, knowing that there will be no trace of your esistense once the last person who knows you dies

[@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376]

Honestly, I think that's stupid. By erasing the killer's, you are also erasing their victims.

[@bethanybrookes8479]

From my brief forays into true crime, I have come to the understanding that fame creates imitators. Serial killers who become famous creates waves that lead to people doing all kinds of stuff. One of the few youtube videos I watched was about a kid who wanted to go out like the guys from columbine so he shot up the supermarket he worked at then killed himself. He did all sorts of things, like video documenting his plans and such. And it was shocking that he went so long without anyone picking up on it, he had a KZbin channel where he did an animated series about dead teenagers doing stuff, and another that he stopped posting on after he killed off his characters brutally. And he was on a columbine fan group, which was the final kicker. If his parents weren't doing anything, the surely somewhere in the government a department must have flagged him up as a threat, if not to others lives, then his own. Or at least closed down the fangroup. It shocks me, seeing as he goy most of his ideas from the fan group, that the government isn't doing more to shut these kinds of things down.

[@vero2522]

This has nothing to do with the topic but I just got terrible dejavu reading your comment. Like I would swear I've read this before

[@lanadelreysalways]

ohh i saw this case too

[@noahbartlett1296]

“There are fictional killer women I find attractive” Same Emily, same.

[@ddjsoyenby]

me three.

[@Spider-Man_234]

me four

[@randomlyswatching9481]

Well there was Victorian lady who would sell some "elixir" to women who were stuck in abusive relationships to serve the hubby because divorce was a no-go. In a way I stan her. In those days a teen would marry some 50.

[@jayqwellin3800]

No its literally disrespectful to the victims and their families its not quirky or daddy issues its trash and the girls that do that fr need help

[@heywhat6676]

so truee

[@_..jolene.._]

Right like people LITERALLY died. Their family will be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Some kids lost their parents and some parents lost their kids. There’s nothing romantic about a psycho killing innocent people.

[@AurikSarker]

There was a woman who was so obsessed with Ramirez that she sent him 75 letters and even married him while he was incarcerated. It was only 20 years later, after one more victim of his was revealed (a nine-year-old girl) that she "cut off ties"

[@lemin0u]

bruh that's sad

[@Sarixis]

Hybristophilia (attraction to criminals) is one of the most terrifying things to see and how delusional it makes people. The fact it's often tied to the "I can change him" fantasy makes my skin crawl because there's a separate set of issues involved with that. It also ignores the mask off reality that many serial killers aren't misunderstood with grandiose plans and are in fact very petty, short-sighted, and vile to the core with nothing redeeming about them or any sympathetic motivation.

[@wingknight7132]

U seem to be under the impression that these women are misguided angels They aren't these women know exactly what these men are and they love these men for it

[@Sarixis]

@@wingknight7132 Not sure how you got that when my point was these types of fandoms always try to soften awful people in order to justify their attraction. There's nothing about being a misguided angel in that, just denying reality because horny. And how the reality of such criminals is nothing like grandiose fictional motivations that said fandoms attribute to them because humans crave a satisfying narrative.

[@wingknight7132]

@@Sarixis lol the fuc u saying? Women who are attracted to these men are just as evil as these men are Tell me why do women grape fantasies? Women say grape is bad yet they have these fantasies why? It's like Hyde and Jekyll in the story Jekyll wanted to live a life where he could commit heinous acts but he didn't want to ruin his reputation because of it so he created hyde In a way women do the same they love what these men are doing but they can't do it themselves because they don't want to be seen as bad people so they live their lives through these men With makeup women are the most beautiful creatures on earth but when u take that off they are just as ugly as men are There are also several other reasons why women are attracted to these men

[@lemin0u]

@@wingknight7132 what 💀

[@wingknight7132]

@Sarixis I have no idea wtf u saying? What am saying women love these criminals cause deep down they know they are just evil as these men are

[@chivi-]

The fact that people are so desperate for recognition or attention on any basis that they’d claim to do something as sick as take someone’s life for funsies… WHY

[@britachii8359]

“First AND second degree murder…he’s so versatile 😮‍💨😫” “I do have the range” LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@tobennaokoli4450]

Everyone stanning serial killers til they meet one.

[@deek7471]

First the media should stop giving them cool names like 'The dark knight shooter'. Just give a name like 'Small Dick Rick' and there won't be another killer

[@kowsik9989]

You are funny but right... 😂👍

[@marcusminingplushbros3121]

Or Billy the Kid.

[@chaolinfantas]

Richard didn’t even have a nice bone structure he was missing teeth. Y’all like poor hygiene too?!

[@leapinggrotto4926]

He got gang beat by a mob and had to have the cops rescue him. 🤣. I don't see the appeal at all. I swear, these Hybristophiliacs are crazy

[@Asmanidoesnotexist2]

He didn’t even brush his teeth💀💀

[@sina3602]

Yes!! I remember when they announced the show You and a lot of people called them out because they were worried about it glorifying stalkers/serial killers. Well fast forward and ppl on twt are like "Joe is kinda right 🤪" "girl from the first season deserved it because she was kinda annoying". I was hoping that they would at least show how Insane and gross this behavior is but somehow they just turned it into a fun lil show about a serial killer doing his thing 🥺 I hate it

[@signoracarter7024]

Oh my yes I felt so uncomfortable watching You because it glamorized Joe's crazy behavior.

[@serena841]

I hate it when people completely miss the point of a piece of media. What these groupies don't know is that they would act exactly like the first girl because she was normal. She was a human who had flaws and whom obviously was rightfully freaked out about Joe's behaviour. They would all be Guinevere Becks.

[@wayfairer5086]

It's attitudes like these that promote toxic and problematic behavior in people. When toxicity is worshipped and seen as attractive, why would people make the effort to be nice?

[@jolaii27]

I was once come across a Columbine shooters stan account on twitter and oh boy, I was horrified of the stuff that they are saying.

[@christianv-h3278]

These are the kinds of people who would be swayed by a young & handsome Tom Riddle, just because he is young & handsome. And then they would, A. either turn a blind eye to his murders, or B. end up murdered themselves. Or both.

[@voldemortthenoselessfreak2126]

Not only he was young and handsome. but his biggest trait was his almost Charles Manson charisma, high intelligence, and being a great manipulator. he's basically Wizarding World's Ted Bundy (with a little bit of Hitler).

[@christianv-h3278]

@@voldemortthenoselessfreak2126 with a _lot_ of Hitler, I'd say. Especially during his later years, once he actually comes to power

[@ame7726]

@@christianv-h3278 Riddle the hitler of the wizarding world with how much he LOVESSSS the pureblood supremacy💀

[@helianthus2130]

I’m really glad you gave that trigger warning for cereal, as I have had a fear of cereal for a while now and if you hadn’t given that warning I wouldn’t have been prepared. Thx for caring ❤️❤️❤️🥣

[@cassiecasserolie2654]

“you’re right, we should go with scarlett johansson” absolutely SENT ME

[@makaylalashe4730]

I I love this video and your content and I think this topic is so important to talk about, but I do have one thing to add! Ted Bundy was played by Zac Efron in the Netflix movie Extremely Wicked Shockingly Evil and Vile because he would use his charm to trick his victims and the story was also kind of being told from Liz’s perspective which is why he’s portrayed by Zac Efron because he’s so publicly loved, but also because he used that to his advantage to kill and not get caught. He wasn’t portrayed by Zac Efron to romanticize him or make him look like a better person, he was played by Zac Efron because he so beloved, was very charming and charismatic, and very cute and that’s kind of how Ted Bundy was and why he had so many fans. also can we talk about the fact that ted bundy isn’t even cute ???? idk what was wrong with his fans😭

[@flowersforyouu]

Right he looks like a retired history teacher

[@Starburst514]

YES THANK YOU. That movie gets a lot of unnecessary flack. It's made from Liz's point of view because it's BASED ON HER BOOK she and her daughter were on set giving thier input, Lily Collins talked to her about how she felt about how she was portraying her, what she thought she should do or change, etc Zac Efron took a 99% pay cut to make sure the movie got all the money it did to being made The guy who made it isn't only also behind the Bundy Tapes Documentary, BUT he also made the documentaries that led to the West Memphis 3 having their case be made national and eventually released. This director walks the walk Infact he said he casted Zac Efron because as OP said he had his charm. Because to a whole generation he has a face that sets people at ease cause they think Disney, he has a trustworthy face, much like how Bundy did at the time. It was to highlight how these killers can manipulate you into trusting them

[@lilakaz]

"we should go with Scarlett Johansson" LMAO that was a good one

[@georgieh7351]

What sucks is that shows like You in particular are made to shine a light on the ridiculousness of this stan behaviour and how men being attractive causes a major halo effect. I seem to recall the same sort of point being made about casting Zac as Ted Bundy, like it was very intentional. A discussion can definitely be had here as to whether showing something means you're endorsing it. I personally don't think that a show focusing on a terrible person is inherently sympathetic to them, but it's also naive of writers and show runners to think that people will be able to critically consume media. (some media can glorify however, and the distinction is important to understand).

[@Milonification]

Also, they choose wildly handsome people for the role and beauty is associated with attraction and goodness. So theres something up tho

[@me-me1980]

I mean, I came back from Bundy's biopic with Efron to actually horrify me. You sympathize with him for a bit, but in the end, I never got the idea from it of "Bundy so sexy, I stan". But that might be my own bias as someone who came into the movie hating Bundy, so idk if someone else who was into Bundy in that way would get the same message.

[@voldemortthenoselessfreak2126]

Y'all aware that the film is based on the biography of Bundy's ex gf Lisa? so that's why he seems quite romanticize in half of it because the story is in Lisa's perspective. and I am honestly not bothered about Zac being casted, as apparently Bundy is considered attractive by some people in his time, especially I even remember that interview of one of his almost victim, although she was quite traumatized by the incident she still described Bundy as charming and "very attractive" and that shît says a lot.

[@Anna-oi7yg]

also the fact that serial killers get cool nicknames like "The Night Stalker" and "Jack the Ripper" and other stuff like "the beast of ..." or "the butcher of..." add to the drama but also glamourize them and focuses on the murderer rather than their victims

[@R4ewwm]

I love the fact that your videos are like informative lectures mixed with witty skits. The skits bring me back to the old KZbin days.

[@SageK253]

"You're right, we should go with Scarlett Johansson" made me spit out my water.

[@nah649]

Our favourite asian woman 😮‍💨

[@xandiehoward4588]

This is such a good video. I actually did a paper and presentation of how the mass media coverage of school shootings has started literal fan groups and copycat shootings

[@toomessy]

Thirsting over serial killers is so common, that there's a NAME for it. Do you know how sad and concerning that is?

[@_..jolene.._]

it was normalized. People will literally be like “OmG i LoVe hIm” about a serial killer and most people won’t say a thing. And the fact that there’s a name for it??? Like what?!?! People need to see that there is an issue with this.

[@youneversawme.5151]

remember when there was a funding campaign for Yuka Takaoka the "real life yandere" and they wanted to get her out of jail because she was "cute" ? Yeah.... :|

[@cheeryrozetea]

“Oh my gosh! A real life Yandere that’s so hot!!!” How about get therapy and find a girl who wouldn’t kill your dog for your attention?

[@IsaMa-dz5gu]

The yandere trope confuses me deeply because they are almost always women, despite the fact that you'd be a thousand times liker to find that kind of behavior in real life in a man.

[@LordOfElysium]

@@IsaMa-dz5gu So true- 😭

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

As far as who can play Emily in a biopic? There is a show called “Orphan Black” where the actress plays a bunch of clones, all with vastly different personalities. Only she can play Emily.

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

You mean Tatiana Maslany?

[@lllwing0]

I do agree crime is highly empowered by the media portraying it in the various ways. I must admit though I have always been fascinated with the character Dr Hannibal Lector.

[@slashercat8649]

his fanbase from the NBC tv show is so funny because they stan him but also will make fun of him too.

[@midget420]

Being fascinated isn’t wrong. I’m fascinated with how their mind works. Big difference with idolizing them.

[@_kenn]

“Mass Murder = Fame” is basically the viewpoint of Kurt Kunkle from Spree

[@saltysaeran2134]

thank you for the trigger warning Emily. I am absolutely TERRIFIED of cereal and can’t stand even looking at it you are a life saver

[@bl6973]

I’ve been into analog horror recently and now I need background noise to keep myself from panicking that I’ll get killed by something supernatural, so thanks for the v enjoyable content

[@Jelly006]

I was watching the new documentary about jeffery dahmer and his victims and people are romanticizing him!??? Like WHY he killed 17 *innocent* People!! It just makes me so so mad that these chronically online weirdos can just do that, it’s insane.

[@taylormiller3017]

“So I just decided to become a serial killer” I lost it 😭😭😭

[@snitchmaster_3000]

“You’re right, we should go with Scarlet Johansson.” IM CRYING

[@zoesaraiah6041]

Serial killer: commits murder *happens to be good looking* People: that was him just being silly and quirky 🤪🥰😚

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@hhhftvgjnnb3090]

Good looking serial killer*

[@keyarrma]

the scarlett johanson joke ALWAYS hits i cackled when you came out with the line that she should play you

[@vanessameow1902]

Its frightening how people can let u get away with potentially anything if you have a pretty face.

[@dontknowagoodname9860]

Vietnam flashback to my high school classmate having Richard Ramirez as her background on her laptop 😬😬

[@nixpixl442]

LMAO WHAT-

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@imaanimuthoni5646]

oh hell no💀

[@nattyism]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

[@JordanS-ww4eu]

Who’s Richard Ramirez?

[@flowerstar47]

This gives of early KZbin vibes with how it's filmed. really like the realness of it and of course the little skits!

[@Saje3D]

This creeps me out to no end. I can’t even watch the fictional stuff anymore. It just got too weird.

[@saoirseh3770]

It’s especially disgusting to me how women will fantasize about or romanticize serial killers that have committed heinous CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN

[@KirstenElise]

The scarjo reference will never not be funny I can’t💀💀💀💀

[@YogurtNight_]

“You don’t have to judge” “I’m literally a judge” Help I’m crying 🥲

[@oikawascursedplushie9912]

This whole situation is just so.... Dystopian... It makes me scared about the power dynamics of the future...

[@graciemclin4999]

U are ON TOP OF IT, sis.. I just took up a psychology of serial killers class haha

[@irenifilms]

The way this is still happening and is getting bigger rn

[@joshbishop7134]

I used to watch you yonks ago, vine days etc. I found ur channel again through the recommendations and im so happy I did. Its like rekindling an old friend ship where we’re all matured and the best versions of ourselves. Btw radiating slay babes xoxo

[@LightninghomeDaphii]

could you maybe make a video talking about “the bad boys” in movies or the presentation of “popular people” in movies vs how it actually is? love your vids

[@merabooo]

this is a really good idea

[@trinaq]

Even Penn Badgley thinks that people are romancising Joe's actions, despite the narrative making it clear that they're SERIOUSLY problematic. It doesn't help that Joe's narration justifies his killing spree, to the point where even Millie Bobby Brown thought he was a decent guy, before retracting her comments later on.

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc Yes.. fax

[@ameera.abubakr]

You could have been a good show but society was not ready

[@tuesdaywithjisoo8395]

Not technically a serial killer but a MASS GENOCIDE COMMITTING DICTATOR. My ex-friend used to write Hitler fanfiction. There's a good reason why she's an ex friend.

[@averypark2644]

Your acting gets better and better! Definitely fell in love with the serial killer version of you!

[@maxblanchard5258]

I was literally just having a binge of your videos and then I see this new one!

[@lol_why_am_i_here]

There is a difference between being curious about how these people’s minds work because they seem to lack any empathy that could have been there,but to OBSESS over them? That is screwed up

[@Celalec]

The halo effect is real and has to be one of the most disturbing parts of human psychology I have ever learned about.

[@mparker123]

1:31 This post just reminds me of that meme: “Thoughts?” “And prayers girl, I don’t know what you want.”

[@ket.jpg_]

i love how you mix your commentary and skits. its just so funny

[@robarazzistanaccount2138]

2:10 I don’t know how on god greens earth ted bundy pulled so many woman. he literally looks like he auditioned to be danny tanner from full house and didn’t get the role. anyways love ur vids queen they always make me laugh

[@John_Krone]

Love your bloopers at the end. Must be fun watching you film this!

[@kowsik9989]

Yes I agree ❤️💕

[@Nekarion_n]

y'all there are hot people out there who HAVEN'T done horrendous things. please. choose them.😭😭

[@slsthewriter1299]

There is something to be said about finding an interest in these people because they are fascinating on a psychological level. But interesting doesn't mean good. It just means there's a point where we want to investigate what makes them tick. The people who glamorize serial killers are not interested in them. They're interested in playing out a fantasy of their own, which is often from a place of delusion. On one hand, they're like the fat, oiled pigs laying themselves out on a platter with an apple already in their mouths. They make themselves the perfect target for most of the killers. Or, they're the kind that would 100% fall into a cult mentality, which is how you have people like Manson running around with people following him. There's a line between finding someone interesting enough to research them and glamorizing someone, and that line is _not_ a fine one.

[@stevieramo]

I agree with you 100% and the media treatment of the " Idaho killer" is a perfect example of what not to do.

[@boutainamahi387]

IM SO HAPPY THAT I CAME ACROSS UR CHANNEL!! ur so funny please continue making amazing content

[@anromeow]

not only are you making a great point but those skits are absolutely hilarious 😭

[@katherinegriffin]

emily you have been my favorite part of my morning routine lately and i will be watching this tomorrow thank you and goodnight

[@robertaperazzo6205]

THANK YOU for giving this topic the attention that it deserves. I was drawn to this topic as well when I was a teenager, I guess because I was a nihilistic and just wanted the end of the world and didn't care much for people, so... But I see now how this is completely wrong and those ppl should be silenced or/and not get portrayed as some rockstar or something

[@Lacey305]

Honestly, one of the few seriel killer docuseries I like, is Gacy: Devil in Disguise. Because when talking about the murders, and John Wayne Gacy himself. They focus a lot on the victims, and I feel like the seriel killer should be an after thought, the main focus should be the lives they ruined, and how these families will be changed. Forever.

[@jungshookjiminie1176]

I also remember reading a case about a girl who murdered her boyfriend where what the public had to say in the end was: "Oh what a pretty girl" Like, did you just ignore the fact that she murdered her boyfriend with a smile on her face and acted like nothing happened????😭😭

[@krishactpatel]

this was literally posted at the perfect time: both on a stressful day and in the middle of my third run through criminal minds

[@mitram15]

the"I'm literally a judge" killed me

[@miyadonelly8286]

the scarlett johanssen part though

[@aerchii8643]

"I'm thinking Lucy Lu or Grace Park-" "Are you insane!?" "You're right, we should go with Scarlett Johansson." LMAO THIS REFERENCE WAS SO FUNNY 💀💀💀

[@jinxstales9307]

Watching this just reminds me of my creepypasta phase, so I'm kind of glad I came out OK! There were literally people fantasising about being kidnapped or being with certain creepypasta characters. I never admired any of these characters, but I always felt bad for them. BTW, you are doing awesome!!! Keep up the amazing work and don't be afraid to take breaks! You deserve everything coming your way *unless they're bad thing, you don't deserve those*

[@Billibab]

6:47 THIS BIT KILLED ME... and also like.... could be a Black Mirror episode