Why does God Allow Natural Disasters?

Giving some answers to the problem of natural disasters.

[@selinasaunders]

Really enjoy all of these peoples questions and Tureks responses to them. I enjoy the different ministries of apologetics. It really does glorify GOD, and I like Tureks patience with the people's questions and humbleness. He does respond gently. I imagine he gets the same questions over and over, but is ready to teach them over and over. I appreciate how he is gentle with the kids in college, because whether they realize it or not, they are being indoctrinated by their professors or influenced to some extent by them, but he can get a little more bold when dealing with other professors in some of the debate clips. It's a good balance I definitely noticed. Keep it up! Finish the Race.

[@DerGuteHut]

I like the peoples patience with him dodging questions or giving inconsistent answers.

[@kaizze8777]

@@DerGuteHut I might like to add, that as a former athiest, no amount of logical debate answer ever was enough for me. if you gave me concrete evidence on a sheet of paper I would still not of believed. why? because it is GRACE. GRACE is the work of unmerited favour in my life that allowed me to come with a tiny little bit of curiosity to the Bible. I cannot remember the exact point in my life that happened but when it did. it consumed me like a fire and I became a believer in Christs full payment of my sins on the tree. Atheists wont ever be satisfied is my point. its more of a self puffing up of ego. God confounds the wise and reveals truths to babes.

[@Wise_Son]

​@@kaizze8777I can see and understand that. A certain level of rebelliousness, an unteachable spirit. I am happy for you that you had that curiosity though. May God bless you.

[@gloryboundkev]

Good answer. This world is temporary. Sometimes the righteous are taken to spare them from evil. Isaiah 57:1 Sometimes calamities come as judgment. Deuteronomy 28:24 Sometimes hardship comes as discipline. Hebrews 12:7 Sometimes hardship comes as a test such as in the book of Job. Circumstances can build your character. Your character is more important than your circumstances because lasting joy, peace, hope, and love are not dependent on temporary circumstances. They are the fruit of a godly character. Everyone faces difficulties and seasons of struggles, but the difference is that the godly trust in Christ, turn to Jesus, receive miracles, and demonstrate love, eternal hope, and peace in crisis.

[@WilliamsWorldView]

No it's not.... The ripple effect? So... A baby dying to day could lead to the life of person who saves millions of people 500 years from now... Try telling that to 6 million Jews. God did see that event coming? Weren't they his chosen people?

[@gloryboundkev]

@@WilliamsWorldView Every decision you make today affects what happens in your life tomorrow. God intervenes or the human race would have wiped itself out already.

[@WilliamsWorldView]

@@gloryboundkev Your avoiding the point I raised. How is God going to account for willingly allowing 6 million of his favoured people being slaughtered and world wide another 20 million being killed. (There's a catch here, in this proposition)

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

@@WilliamsWorldView If God is the giver of all life (assuming you believe in God) then wouldn't He be correct in taking life as He so pleases? Thus truly making Him God?

[@AtamMardes]

What kind of almighty powerful God is your God that allows over 100s of thousands of newly born infants die? Maybe God is just figment of your imagination.

[@hewhositsuponfroggychair5722]

Well, one of the punishments after Eden was that the world would be out to get man.

[@ertfgghhhh]

Ripple effect: Saul did not kill everyone like he was supposed to. The queen got away. The descendant of her baby she carried with the man in Babylon that persecuted and tried to kill all of the jews. Esther saved them.

[@jackdupwny93crew40]

Frank is the man. Truly the reason I have pushed my spiritual gifts to the next level. He inspired me to join a ministry and create videos as when. Thanks Frank for all you do to defend the faith.

[@actingfan11]

“What kind of world would this be if everyone was indestructible until you’re 80” never thought about that. That’s a really good response!

[@brainblox5629]

A ... better one?

[@MartTLS]

Brainblox Nah much better to have cancer in childhood .

[@andrewoliver8930]

People used to live until 900 years...

[@brainblox5629]

@@andrewoliver8930 thats just some Jewish fairy tale

[@MartTLS]

Until the bumps killed them .

[@MetalGearDavid57]

Now that raises a whole 'nother question is why do Christians pray when there is a natural disaster? If God already set these things into motion, why would you ask him to change course? Do you just pray to feel comfort? If that's so, then that makes sense, but I really can't understand why people actually believe praying for something to happen or something not to happen will work.

[@francismausley7239]

Excellent theme... Not always, but perhaps too often: "...when man breaks his promise to God, in other words when he “violates the Covenant,” the effect is physical, and calamities appear.” ~ Daily Lessons Received at Akká, Bahá’í Faith Publishing Trust

[@ashleyelizabeth1173]

God is infinite and we're finite... Legit truth!

[@robertlewis9132]

Legit nonsense!

[@minorityslang]

@@robertlewis9132 how?

[@thebottomline9250]

It's funny how he doesn't use tragedies like 9/11 as an example of a bad thing leading to something good. He knows people would be offended.

[@danmarley2886]

The disciples told Jesus that he offended the Jews, and Jesus replied, Every plant my father did not plant shall be pulled up by the roots. Grace and Peace.

[@one_with_kevrything9825]

What good came from 9/11?

[@elsainnamorato2231]

It is important to thank appreciate and give credit to God for those wonderful and moments and miracles, he blesses us with. In order to understand and cope with natural disasters is a good place to start is man fallen nature and the consequences of our sins.Jesus is with us from the very start to the very end. Everyday we must strengthen our faith. He will bring you clarity and peace of mind and understanding to these very difficult questions. also don't underestimate the power off prayer because I think this is the only thing that is holding this world together. God bless you

[@muhammadsiddiqmuhiddinov1590]

So all the good is gods doing but all the bad is our own fault for the consequences our sins?

[@leahcimmmm]

@@muhammadsiddiqmuhiddinov1590 God is good. Man is not.

[@terrycrosslin7866]

@@leahcimmmm You have it backwards

[@Conquest...]

@@terrycrosslin7866you can’t be serious the majority of people can’t go ten minutes of conversation without lying 💀💀 “According to research,about 60% of people 18 and older are incapable of having a conversation without lying once every ten minutes.”

[@Samuel-lf3yq]

Something like Butterfly effect

[@mineandshot]

Ask these questions to God Himself, only he knows the answer.

[@davidpower7874]

I would but I can't find her anywhere, she's constantly playing hide and seek, or maybe, just maybe, there is no god to ask questions.

[@mineandshot]

@@davidpower7874 she? anyways this comment was a year ago. get over it.

[@davidpower7874]

@@mineandshot .. What makes you so sure it's a "He"?.

[@neoneherefrom5836]

@@mineandshot lmao @ get over it. Has your non answer changed to an actual one after a year? Lol

[@davidpower7874]

@Asmore Who cares what a old book written in the bronze age says, the Hindu Vedas are older than the bible and they have FEMALE gods, so what makes yours right and theirs wrong?.

[@larrywilliams5490]

I wonder if people say,as long as it happens to someone else I’m good……..?

[@jnixa1010]

I love how she starts out with the premise of natural disaster being “ bad”. She’s prescribing a value on the event, which proves we had a creator

[@DanUtley]

jnixa1010 as C. S. Lewis says, he realized that the things he used to prove there wasn’t a creator (unjust universe) necessitates there be a creator for him to judge the universe as “unjust” in the first place.

[@andyashworth7750]

This is the most incredibly fallacious leap of logic from premise to conclusion I have ever heard. And no, I don’t mean the girl you’re talking about.

[@jnixa1010]

andy ashworth why does it matter?

[@chrisgagnon5768]

Ronan O'Neill Allah?

[@Kaymen1980]

jnixa1010 It’s bad because you are logically fallacious. Claiming that her ability to prescribe value to something proves the existence of your god is a clear non sequitur, which is bad because that means what you are saying is useless, the opposite of what we are trying to achieve through logic - “finding truths”. Well unless you are want to believe that which is untrue, in which case a fallacious argument would be good to you, which speaks to my position that morality is relative.

[@nothanks7475]

Why were we sent/born into a fallen world?

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

this is a test for the next life

[@haitaelpastor976]

​@@marcellofunhouse1234Then why the most wicked are never tested and even get the most handsome rewards.

[@paulrock4816]

I am amazed by how people think God owes them an answer. How did he answer JOB? where were you when I laid the foundations of the world.? He offers Grace for Salvation without a reason, jump on it. What's in it for him? what's in it for you. He gets to forgive you & cleanse you, you get eternal life. Wow...that's fair. I get to live forever, & he gets,.....me???? hmmmmm.

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

We can't see the ripple but what if replace the R with and N?

God see's it all.... not like we do but on a infinitely higher level.

[@AtamMardes]

Are you sure you are not delusional?

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

@@AtamMardes Why would he/she be delusional? Why can God not be a reasonable belief?

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

@ I agree. If people think we got here by chance than that is just plain silly. I was simply bringing up the point that I believe God is a reasonable belief and should not be quickly dismissed as some people see it.

[@ericmago4110]

@ Why does there have to be a meaning to life? Yes, we are here by chance. Religion was made EXACTLY for people like you, who can't fathom that there is no meaning, besides the meaning to YOU, yourself give it. I would by the way love to see some evidence supporting your Creationism point of view.

[@jogriffin9347]

hendrix3081 Which god there is 300 million gods

[@sonofyahgabe]

Wish there was a more spiritual response behind the answer. Using the example of Christ rebuking the storm. Jesus won’t rebuke something of God because He’d be going against Himself ( kingdom divided won’t stand Matt 12:25). Also gotta look at the wickedness of that certain land because it can also be judgement God allows

[@MrJimMajor]

His answer to why God causes bad things is "I don't know". At least that is fair. But imagine you are God and have the abilities to make a planet with any environment possible with the nature and characteristics of those inhabitants up to your discretion. The earth would be tranquil and beautiful. If you were God would there be hatred, disease, hurricanes? Not if you are merciful because you can exclude those from existing. If you think life needs to be a test, well I can think of no reason for that, either. Do you think you would become bored if there were no starvation, diseases or hurricanes to worry about? If you are God there is no emotion of boredom because you never concocted it. Does disease and hatred exist in the human concept of heaven? Usually not and no one worries about becoming bored.

[@Kaymen1980]

Shannon85 Yeah, why does a god need a spaceship 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@judithallen4630]

Ok so one misconception that a lot of people forget about the message of the gospel is the idea of our redemption and the redemption of the whole of the earth and material and nature because of all of the corruption. Right? So God is going to destroy evil and redeem it all. But the one thing people forget is that God couldn’t ever get rid of evil WITHOUT GETTING RID OF US HUMANS. We are the reason for the evil. Humans = evil. Jesus taught that the heart of man is evil and what he really means is that we were totally opposite to Gods character. We are selfish, unloving, prideful creatures. God can never just get rid of evil because it would involve our destruction and he doesn’t want to do that because he loves us! The only way for God to solve the problem of evil was and is to provide redemption now (spiritual rebirth, direct redemption of communication and relationship with God) and once the time comes based on Gods judgment, a new heaven and earth will be created without evil.

[@MrJimMajor]

+Judith Allen You are operating under the assumption that God has to follow the same rational guidelines humans do. I am going under the assumption that God is all-powerful and can make, or reject any and all of the rules. I don't think humans = evil was determined _for_ God. I think humans = evil, if that is even true, was optional for God because God is all-powerful. I think God, if such a being exists, did not have to concoct evil, or disease, or hatred. Yet he decided to make those very things.

[@Firestorm12345678910]

Jesus taught that the heart of man is evil Human animal thinks with it's BRAIN not with it's heart (if you wanted to get nitty gritty with it's entire body). We are selfish, unloving, prideful creatures. Nothing out of the ordinary that is if you look at it from an evolution point of view. Us humans are both good and bad like the ying yang symbol. The brain must compare things in order to have an understanding (meaning on a deeper level) of things. Other then that it's just reflexes and DNA inbuilt basic behavior patterns. The only way for God to solve the problem of evil was and is to provide redemption now (spiritual rebirth, direct redemption of communication and relationship with God) and once the time comes based on Gods judgment, a new heaven and earth will be created without evil. Don't you think that by god doing all these sorts of things that god is unnecessarily complicating it. Why not just create other gods to live with...the "GOD" in heaven? ...a new heaven and earth will be created without evil. Riiiight...so god can't do this the first time..for what reason? Ok so we got a god that is still in god school or something? Lucky us.

[@jesussavessinner1315]

Revelation 12:12 (KJV) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. The devil is to blame not The Holy LORD. The Bible gives an answer to every question pertaining to good and evil . This is one reason that The Lord Jesus Christ commands us to diligently search the scriptures

[@sonburst7]

I find a better answer simply in "We live in a fallen world," as you stated. Going beyond that you enter into an intellectual argument, which may be useful to some people, but the apostle Paul answers this nicely in Romans 8:19-22 saying, "The eager expectation of the creation waits for the appearance of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but by the will of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now." We see hear the things of creation, although not partakers of sin, became cursed along with man. So, creation "groans and travails" even now until our Lord returns and all things are set right again. This is why we have natural disasters. Like everything else, it goes back to the original sin.

[@declan.mclean3857]

Also sin is the reason crazy disasters happen. When a country Sins badly and Does so much evil they will reap what they sow. God doesn’t do anything, it’s actually the people who are the victims of A hurricane that sow it and bring the curse unto themselves. Just like in sodom and Gomorrah, but God is so gracious that even if One man out of of those sinful people is righteous he Would spare the town. But As today Most people are Evil and phew are righteous so this is why you see Hurricane attacks, volcano explosions...floods, deceases happen to certain people out of nowhere, its simply a Reaping of what all the evil people hath sowed on this earth. And there are obviously different answers to this.

[@rgawt1870]

What else can we expect from God if we people have given our backs to Him. We have totally forgotten about Him

[@epicmikey1393]

Animals don’t have any sin why does God allow animals to die in natural disasters?

[@abategameryt8553]

Oh yeah i forgot when Chile was so sinful that they got as retribution like 500 earthquakes a minute

[@anthonymitchell9793]

Why do I continually get sucked into watching Turek not actually answer questions, make baseless assertions, and spew word salad? Seriously you have to completely let critical thinking die in you to be impressed with this guy.

[@iamhewhospeaks]

I think this all sounds like an abused wife trying to explain why her bruises mean her husband loves her. I hardly think that living in a world of “what if’s” hardly counts as a good response. the fact is, god has the power to stop, has the power to speak (out loud, directly, not through humans, a gust of wind, or scripture), has the ability to literally change everything and appear in real form in front of us, and does NONE of that. And We’re supposed to be satisfied with a response like “what would it look like if you couldn’t die until 80?” Well, in my opinion, that’d be a pretty good outlook! too many die young if you ask me, and NOT dying sound a lot like what we’re trying to achieve anyway. I feel like asking people to be ok with why god “allowed” you to get raped over and over by your uncle in order for him to “show you” just how good gods salvation is, sound a bit sick to me. either your a good responsible god, or you are none of that. And any attempt to explain and justify that required a world of hypotheticals is literally taking a step in the opposite direction of providing tangible evidence of the way things are: it teaches you to shush your curiosity. And the better they are at hushing your curiosity, the longer it takes for any of us to actually search for a REAL response, such as, “there is no body up making it rain in Japan so Vietnam can have a tsunami for their girlie boys. It’s caused by temperature changes and fluctuations of atmospheric pressure together with the process of condensation that triggers condensation and results in rail fall, magnified by the distance between locations and plate tectonics that create waves the size of The Eiffel Tower. Furthermore, we can stop these tsunamis by planting mangroves near the coastlines.” Now THAT, is a response that takes all the wind out of a persistent and erroneous belief system that INSISTS it’s all for “some purpose in the far distant future some how and we have no idea how to stop it except for getting on our knees and singing hallelujah.” Please stop believing these things people. The world and humanity needs us to grow out of religion for the sake of our continual survival and improvement.

[@adarwinterdror7245]

Even Turek, one of the most compelling apologetics, reveals the biggest issue with religion in this answer. We all have fail and success standards for every single thing in our lives. every experience we go through, every product we test, every person we meet - everything has a fail and success standards for it. we judge everything we go through according to our own personal standards to test if it is good for us or bad - if it fails according to our standards or if it "passes". this is how we decide how to live - if we try a new food - is it healthy or tasty enough or not? if it doesnt pass our standards than we dont eat it. if it's a new teacher - is he smart enough or not? is he interesting enough or not? if it's a new friend - is he loyal enough or not? is he funny or interesting enough or not? We jugde EVERYTHING in our lives to know what to keep and what to abandon. everything. there isnt a single decision in life we dont judge in order to know if it's good or bad. sometimes the way we judge isnt good enough, but we judge. we have standards to test if it failed or succeeded (test for ourselves according to our own subjective standards. but we have them). it's the process of selection that keeps us alive, otherwise we would just accept all actions as equally valid even if they were harmful. Every single theist has standards according to which he judges every single thing in the world.... everything except god. God, to a theist, has absolutely no fail standard. you ask a theist, even a well versed like turek, how would you know if god failed, made a mistake or simply tried to harm us and his answer would be "that isnt possible". he is a theist therefore he has absolutely no failed standard for god. Even in the face of the greatest disaster for humanity, a theist will never be able to judge the act. he will always consider it good and wont be able to come up with any form of judgement to know if god failed, or simply didnt care about us. So does Turek in his example - if something horrible happens, like an earthquake, that causes incredible sorrow on thousands of people, turek doesnt have the cognitive ability to judge it. he will simply say "It has some benefit down the line". Guess what, Turek - EVERYTHING has benefits down the line!! and you wanna know what else? EVERYTHING has downsides down the line as well!! A friend of my wife has re-married after a drunk driver ran over her former husband, leaving her alone with her kid. because of that she has fallen into a great depression and her child will never have his true father back, but guess what - because of that accident she met someone else. would a theist believe the drunk driver if he claimed it was his "plan" to get the woman to meet her next husband because he could see the future?! surely not. even a theist with the least amount of critical thinking, would be able to judge a man. But if Turek claims it wasnt the plan of the man, it was God's plan to re-marry her - then he would believe. Is it the best plan to get a woman to remarry? obviously not. there could have been far better ways to get that to happen without causing death and sorrow and an orphan child, but a thrist wouldnt dare to work his critical thinking to judge god, because, for a theist, there is no fail standard for god. the concept of judging god is none existent. so a perfectly reasonable person works his reason to judge everything in his reality to know how to live, will still do the unreasonable and not judge own god. I wish I was there to ask Turek - God claims himself to be all-knowing, all powerful and all loving. If he wasn't, would you know?! could you even judge?! Of course not. that's faith for you. the poorest way of making decisions in life. so poor, in fact, even most theists dont apply it on anything.... except god. .

[@mystictomato9466]

Forgive me for being rude but your argument is retarded. Theists believe God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omnitranscended and omnibenevolent. Such a god (if real) simply cannot make a mistake or do a misdeed. What you think is the biggest problem of religion isn’t really the biggest problem of religion but your own failed, illogical thinking. Your argument assumes a finite god and theists believe in an infinite god, so in order to make further arguments you must first create an argument against their version of god and not your version of god. If a god was powerful enough to create such an amazing universe out of nothing then I’m pretty sure he isn’t inclined to making mistakes.

[@adarwinterdror7245]

​@@mystictomato9466 I get what you're saying, but I go against two things in my argument: 1. Theists claim that god is all knowing all smart, all good, all everything. This is their axiom due to which it can not make mistakes. However, this claim\axiom is nonsensical because its unsubstantiated and falsifiable. in order to claim something is all smart than we need standards to what smart is and under what point it isnt considered smart. saying its all good or all loving we need to define at what point the god is NOT good or NOT loving. /etc. etc. So the theist cant start at the assumption god is all loving, for example, if you can't define what a NOT-so-loving god would behave like or what a Not-so-good God will behave like. 2. One quality of God doesn't necessarily demand another. A god that created the universe from nothing (Not that there is such a thing as nothing) doesn't lead to a god that is all knowing. Maybe he knows how to create energy but that's it? Just because an engineer can create a car, does it mean he knows how to program it to not crash and burn? Just because a guy can assemble a computer doesn't mean he knows how to program it. A god that knows the future doesn't lead to a god that cares if he makes mistakes or not. And a god that knows what will happen 100 years from now doesn't mean he knows what will happen 20000 years from know. And a god that is all that definitely doesn't mean he loves US humans or good according to OUR standards. Lastly, none of those means that god is interacting with us. (Deism)

[@dariusnoname12]

Hi everyone, I am new here. So which god is he talking about?

[@evangelistkimpatrik]

Darius NoName The one and only true God. YHWH.

[@dariusnoname12]

@@evangelistkimpatrik what is YHWH?

[@evangelistkimpatrik]

Google it.

[@dariusnoname12]

@@evangelistkimpatrik Yehweh? From what I undertand she is christian goddess? So why is she only true one? Why not odin?

[@blakemarb5617]

Becoz Odin is a character from Norse MYTHology whereas Yehweh is mentioned as True God in The BOOK of Bible..peace!

[@schwann145]

Frank likes to rely on the "fallen world" as an excuse/explanation for bad things quite often. But, nothing happens that isn't according to God's WIll and perfect Plan, correct? So if the world is fallen, it's fallen because God wills it so. Which just leads us right back to: Why does God insist on causing suffering?

[@LonerStonER217]

God sent the storm

[@andrewoliver8930]

They happen due to physical forces. They're neither allowed or prevented as no miraculous force is needed or exists. God is also busy helping wide receivers score touchdowns.

[@Valdrex]

Frank should just be honest and say "I have no idea." Even though the obvious answer is just as you described, he can't admit it because it leaves out the supernatural.

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

"Needed or exists" You can't be 100% absolute.

[@andrewoliver8930]

@@ltlsWhatltIs I'll correct that statement. Has been shown or proven to exist.

[@MartTLS]

Andrew Oliver And imprinting his image on toast .

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

@@andrewoliver8930 Thanks, much better.

[@imaginative6315]

I really hate this logic of "god is infinite and can see all" because you're just blindly hoping that the deity up above is good. If he's infinite and you're finite then there's literally no way for you to know he's infinite. Also, you can't know that God has your best interests in the future at heart, and even if he did, killing someone "for the greater good", that is, in the good of the future, is highly dubious.

[@STREEEEEET]

Because while God forgives our sins, we still have to face the consequences of it. That's why.

[@seshuaiyar5047]

So forgiveness has no meaning!

[@STREEEEEET]

@@seshuaiyar5047 See if this helps. You were drunk and driving and you lose control of your car and you kill my son. Cops arrive and get you to jail. I can forgive you but i can't get you out of jail even if i want it to. Granted there are some scenarios where i can choose to give you a free pass upon forgiveness by bearing the cost from your wrongdoing.

[@citrineconjurer]

@@STREEEEEET So if I am drunk and lose control of the car which kills your son, I go to jail and am a bad person. God has total control over all of nature and allows it to kill sons and daughters of innumerable people for the entirety of humanity's existence and he/it is a benevolent god. If only god had consequences to face for his/its sins.

[@STREEEEEET]

@@citrineconjurer Help me understand your point here. You think God should stop all wrong/harmful actions and if He doesn't then He is evil or not good?

[@citrineconjurer]

@@STREEEEEET Evil caused by humans can be excused as part of free will, but yes all natural evils such as cancer, parasites, earthquakes, and tornadoes should be stopped by him (or not have been created in the first place). I don't believe any good being could intentionally inflict those upon people.

[@africankaleab360]

Jesus is Lord. Jesus is King. True Christianity is the Truth. Pray to Him and Honor Mary. Have faith in Him. 2021 will be your year.

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

2022

[@ADMusic1999]

It is true that a world without death or pain is miserable and has no purpose. But isn't that the exact place you want to go when you die? You say that people would be reckless if they were guaranteed 80 years of life; yet somehow you believe that you would enjoy an eternity in heaven. Everything meaningful has an ending - including life.

[@khier-eddinehennaoui9783]

Maybe there are no meaning but damn there is joy .

[@steadfastneasy26]

"Everything meaningful has an ending - including life. God doesn't. Just sayin'

[@khier-eddinehennaoui9783]

@@steadfastneasy26 Well that's your opinion and i respect it even if i disagree .

[@margaretbarrett7469]

Music by A.D Excellent point. And is there free will in heaven? If so, the inhabitants will have to be permanently on guard lest they slip up. What a fun way to spend eternity.

[@steadfastneasy26]

@@margaretbarrett7469 I'm not sure all of what IS in heaven but I know one thing that IS NOT .... sin.

[@udutae]

It really amazes me how people find excuses to protect the imaginary god...

[@arou5174]

shut it nerd

[@NeoDemocedes]

According to Christianity, God made evil despite knowing what it would do, he made this world knowing it would fall, he made humans with flaws that would lead many of them to eternal punishment. Knowing all these things, he did everything the same. So then why is God not responsible for his decisions? Why are Christians so eager to make excuses for God? Either he can see what will come, or not. Either he has the power to change things or he does not.

[@chrisgagnon5768]

NeoDemocedes Evil is simply the absence of God. God has given people the choice to either trust in his Son or reject him. God won’t force anyone into his presence against their own will. He’s too loving for that. It’s simple free will. Nothing more.

[@ericmago4110]

@@chrisgagnon5768 Good answer, totally dodging the whole premise of the question, lovely.

[@NeoDemocedes]

@@chrisgagnon5768 Can you find a dictionary that agrees with your cherry picked definition?

[@awesomeness7773]

1.- No one is making excuses for God. Yes he cast out Satan from heaven because Satan wanted to be God. Evil is the absence of good therefore satan was/is evil. If you are atheist then evil/good don’t exist (tell me what is evil and why, then tell me by what standards are you making that judgment). 2.- Yes God allows bad in this world, how else is he supposed to realize if you are good or bad without giving you the decision? So you mean you’d rather he make you a good person like a robot that is programmed to only do good? That seems totally worthy of an eternal reward....not. Not to mention he gave you free will. Don’t tell me what you just wrote above was forced by a God that you don’t believe in. 3.- Please do give me an example of God creating a flaw in a human that will lead to eternal punishment, please do enlighten me. 4. Please do your studying before entering a gun fight with a sword and shield.

[@NeoDemocedes]

@@awesomeness7773 Do you believe God is omniscient?

[@steadfastneasy26]

@Cross Examined I'd like to offer answer that would sit on the science side of the coin, but it is *completely a guess* based on the narrative as I've been shown. Jewish tradition and writings speak of an ice canopy (about 3 fingers thick) prior to the Flood. Fountains of the deep break open, sending debris skyward, smashing the canopy. One could assume highly stable or predictable weather under an ice canopy. It is a reasonable assumption, I think, to say that such a thing would change how the weather operates.

[@Actuary1776]

Except we know the Hebrew near easterner had a faulty view of the cosmos. There was no ice canopy and the earth isn’t flat. Why would an incorrect view of nature 3,000 years ago have any kind of meaningful impact on the world today? It wouldn’t.

[@steadfastneasy26]

@@Actuary1776 Nobody said the earth was flat, boy genius, and neither does the Bible.

[@Actuary1776]

SteadFast nEasy Sure it does. Or did Turek tell you it doesn’t? Biblical illiteracy is a fundamental problem in our day. The ancient Hebrews believed the earth was flat, the sky was a glass dome, the sea was another world, the sky was held up at the corners by the mountains. This was the common view at that time, Hebrews and non Hebrews alike. And I’m not a genius but probably more educated on the topic than you think you are. Do yourself a favor and spend an hour on google, learn something.

[@steadfastneasy26]

@@Actuary1776 I'm well aware of what the Hebrews THOUGHT but it is NOT in the scripture.

[@Actuary1776]

SteadFast nEasy How is that not a distinction without a difference (though I disagree it’s not in the Bible). They believed it but it didn’t impact their worldview and description of the cosmos in Genesis? That makes zero sense. Nevertheless it is in the Bible: Genesis 7:11- fountains of the deep, floodgates of heaven Genesis 1:9-13 - pillars of the earth Job 9:6 - pillars of the earth Job 3:8 - speaking of leviathan which is a sea monster representing chaos of the sea Genesis 1:5-8 - pillars of heaven This was their worldview, and it is communicated through the Bible. The Bible is written by men and therefore makes sense they would have had an incorrect view of the cosmos, as these people were prescientific at the time. This does not mean you try and interpolate their understanding with what we know now. God has given us science and the reason of our minds, we should use that instead of trying to explain the thoughts of men some 3,000 years ago. It’s detrimental to anyone with a brain looking at Christianity in the 21st century.

[@darrylsmith3102]

The Human mind, Truly! Unbelievable and Pathetic.

[@adamquinn4677]

Pretty much lmao

[@rosiewashere9521]

If God is so powerful, he shouldn't need a ripple to achieve the good he wants to see, he'd be able to achieve it without causing evil. torturing or killing hundreds of innocent people in a natural disaster can't be morally justified by something like a "ripple effect." All those lives lost are important and its unjust to not give those people equal opportunity at life.

[@seshuaiyar5047]

What about all animals,plants etc killed by humans,?

[@andyashworth7750]

0:50 ‘but let me answer the question from another perspective’ English translation: let me avoid your question and instead answer something else so I don’t have to deal with it.

[@criticalchristianity261]

I don’t think analogies are the same as avoiding a question.

[@andyashworth7750]

@@criticalchristianity261In general neither do I. But seeing as he doesn't really answer the question at all, let alone sufficiently, in this case I would be tempted to say that that's what happened.

[@criticalchristianity261]

andy ashworth Sure, I get that. He’s responded to the problem of evil before and I think this response was more original than past ones. I wouldn’t disregard it simply because he used a new analogy in this.

[@sandragambrel9721]

The Authority to walk like Jesus was given to each of us who believe. He lives in each of us. Shouldn't we be doing the works He did? We of little faith. God have mercy on us.

[@johnrichards6080]

If God was omnipotent he could create an evangelist without the need to kill a baby. He is either cruel, or not omnipotent.

[@steadfastneasy26]

From the minds of simpletons .........

[@johnrichards6080]

@@Dgersham My behavior isn't relevant. The parents' freewill is also irrelevant to a death they didn't cause. If God allows an innocent baby/child to die then he is cruel or not omnipotent. The parents can't be blamed. God can.

[@johnrichards6080]

@@Dgersham We don't need to justify our condemnation of various actions like child abuse, murder, etc. Aren't they inherently wrong? Similarly, I don't need to present my own actions to justify my condemnation of a god (or a human) who kills, or allows the death of an innocent infant. God is cruel if he allows an infant to die (often painfully), or he is unable to prevent the death which means he isn't all-powerful. There can't possibly be a good reason for a baby to die. If God is omnipotent he can just use another method to achieve whatever result he wants. Why kill a baby? There is, of course, the option that God doesn't exist and babies die of natural causes.

[@johnrichards6080]

@@Dgersham My only point is this - Innocent infants die from illnesses. God doesn't prevent their deaths so he is cruel, not all-powerful, or he doesn't exist. I'm not talking about babies with brain damage, etc. Or women having abortions. Or evil. I don't know why you mention these. And if God is omnipotent his "best" should be unlimited. Why should human behavior limit the capacity of an all-powerful god? He should be able to save any infant he chooses. So why does he let them die? It can only be one of the three possibilities I've presented.

[@johnrichards6080]

@@Dgersham Truth isn't cynicism. I'm not sure how your questions are relevant to God's cruelty, weakness or non-existence. And if God is truly omnipotent, he isn't bound by reasons. He can create any reality he chooses. I should be understanding of a supernatural being who allows innocent infants to die...really?

[@bigpapaonions4061]

He’s used that Joseph analogy before. It’s always the same answers to the same questions

[@el_cutchiloco7686]

It’s alright bro u don’t want there to be a God unless there is some evidence even tho there is evidence out there but it’s not enough so u keep living life comfortably but hey ain’t no one wanna admit

[@MR-yx8hj]

@@el_cutchiloco7686, huh?

[@scottc3641]

Its so easy to debunk religion. You have zero evidence

[@jgray2579]

There is so much Evidence, but here is a challenge for you. For 1 week each night before you go to bed and when you wake up ask God sincerely if he is real that he will reveal himself to you. Take this challenge :)

[@scottc3641]

@@jgray2579 where? There's none

[@criticalchristianity261]

@@scottc3641 With all due respect, you saying that there's no evidence is like being a fish in the ocean asking where the water is. Before we dig into the evidence, let me ask you a question. What is your stance on the historical existence of Jesus?

[@scottc3641]

@@criticalchristianity261 there is no historic evidence only what the bible says

[@scottc3641]

@We Need God there is no proven evidence of Jesus other than the bible seems like you need to study

[@bfjohnmark]

Why God allows disasters, suffering, crimes to happen because that's the way this world is created. Good and evil thrives. Life and death are in cycles... Men are created having the freedom to choose their path. Regardless of the outcome of their choices, God will not intervene.. This God will let men suffer, will never care if you live or die.. And his Godliness power will never shift even if your an atheist.. Whether you die a godless death and go to hell.. You are nothing.. That is the choice you made.. and its on you.. But this God gave you a choice, Josh 24 Choose you this day whom you will serve... If you live your life loving Him, knowing Him, serving Him, having that fear of Him.. Then whether you live or die in this fallen world, you'll be confident.. That's where faith in his Son comes in.. and you know the story..

[@johnhammond6423]

So frank is saying here that God works in ways we can't understand? Only the realy gulable will be taken in by this nonsence.

[@brendanwatanabe2589]

john hammond if you can give me an answer as to why God does such things, a good real reason, than I would listen to your opinion, but the Bible even states that we will never understand God, he has his plans, sure some suck, sure it seems unfair, but those are (in my opinion) trials, God does these to test people, you sir are failing, I have trials all my life, but when you believe in God, you feel way better and you can get through those trials, you can change and believe in him so that you won’t fall, we Christians believe and trust in God, hopefully you’ll find the same faith.

[@johnhammond6423]

@@brendanwatanabe2589 Thank you for your claims without evidence. _'you can change and believe in him'_ Actually I can't. I can only change my beliefs based on evidence, not faith. _'when you believe in God, you feel way better'_ I was told by my mother that I had a comfort blanket but I don't remember it now because I am a grown up. :)

[@brendanwatanabe2589]

john hammond I am not as well learned in the subject, or I would attempt to change your mind, but all I can really say is seeing isn’t believing, all I can really say also is have a good day and God bless

[@sukruoosten]

HE does as HE PLEASES en NO ONE NOBODY NOTHING can question HIM for HE ALONE YHWH is above good en evil !!!! atheism does not give hope ore justice but HE WILL when judgement day comes !!! free will brings a lot of suffering which man brings into the world

[@jamiewilson2088]

Fiction.

[@ericmago4110]

Nr 1 Best Selling Ficiton book. Unfortunately the book wasn't released with a "Caution, this is fiction, don't teach it to your children as if it was facts" - label written on it. Look where we are now. BILLIONS of indoctrinated, ignorant people with imaginairy friends and an angry bearded grandpa in the sky waving his wand and making people worry about whether or not they will be bored forever in "heaven". Ah, yes, humanity.

[@shaynestewart9297]

I like franks answer. God knows the outcome we don't so were going to have lot of questions. In scripture God uses natural disasters as Judgements.

[@bobwhelan5636]

That's an easy one. Because it doesn't exist.

[@laschivas169]

By the way.. You don't exist, and I'm just answering an imaginary comment to an imaginary person. Lol

[@bobwhelan5636]

@@laschivas169 Are you off your meds again?

[@laschivas169]

@@bobwhelan5636 child like mind...

[@laschivas169]

By the way... you welcome,,, nobody even acknowledge you up until today. And that's all you got to say? So disappointed.... Sounds familiar???

[@chrisgagnon5768]

Eric Nielsen Don’t be ridiculous

[@elizabeththompson6817]

This on Earth is metaphorically the tree of knowledge of good and evil the fruit of which is good to eat. That's the good thing about it, it itself is not good and is to be destroyed. Suffering and evil exist as the nature of this tree.

[@sinister45544554]

God gave man dominion, He does not control everything. He does not "allow bad things to happen" that directly effects His good will towards men. The thief comes to steal kill and destroy and is the prince of this world. It is a fallen world and bad things happen because of sin, our choice not because God "allowed" it

[@1godonlyone119]

Why shouldn't he?

[@creedvision6177]

Great answer!!

[@WilliamsWorldView]

No it's not.... The ripple effect? So... A baby dying today could lead to the life of person who saves millions of people 500 years from now... Try telling that to 6 million Jews. God did see that event coming? Weren't they his chosen people?

[@criticalchristianity261]

Williams World View The Jews were chosen by God. Does that mean they are immune to all pain and suffering in the world? Are any of us?

[@WilliamsWorldView]

@@criticalchristianity261 I was referencing what Frank Turek said. Frank's remark is inconsistent with history. That is the point I was making

[@criticalchristianity261]

Williams World View Thanks for clarifying! So just to be sure, are you arguing the ripple effect doesn’t occur or that Frank’s interpretation of it is skewed?

[@WilliamsWorldView]

@@criticalchristianity261 well, if franks interpretation is correct, it begs the question, which ripple was so important that god didn't intervene to save 6 million jews and millions of others. thus you might wonder if the ripple effect takes place. if franks interpretation is wrong, you might also wonder if the ripple effect takes place. in both instances, you can wonder about if the ripple effect doesn't take place, why that is. Perhaps there is no devine intervention which leafs to an obvious question

[@superdog797]

another hilarious and vacuous whopper from Dr. Turek.

[@daniapowell180]

Halleujah

[@sarlansyiem3552]

You should ask yourself such a question!!!

[@obiwankenobi6871]

We should also consider that God is trying to shape the world and ready it for Judgement day and one way to set things up without interfering with human freewill, his gift to us, is through climate change and natural catastrophes

[@ericmago4110]

Yay, people, mostly in the Pacific will die from flooding within a 100 years, the World will be overpopulated, ressources will be scarce and ultimately we will have to find another planet to live on if we do not do anything. God is good!

[@obiwankenobi6871]

Eric Nielsen global warming and climate change is partially mankind’s fault and a result of our ignorance and lack of foresight and you can hardly blame God for our own actions like miners mining and drilling for gold only to cause a cave in and maybe a rockslide etc. many of these things are results of human action

[@ericmago4110]

@@obiwankenobi6871 That is in conflict with what you wrote... Yes, it's humans fault but to blame natural disasters on a "God" is ludicrous. In fact, we can explain EXACTLY how natural disasters happen. Here it comes.....WITHOUT the need to fill in "God" whenever there is a gap that is hard to explain. Sorry that a guy over the Internet had to break it to you.

[@obiwankenobi6871]

Eric Nielsen I’m not trying to say God was in charge of every single natural disaster in world history and I’m confused at what you’re trying to say, can you elaborate?

[@Firestorm12345678910]

and you can hardly blame God for our own actions Of course! The god of the challenge is always bountiful and plentiful in it's givings. Be blessed because "he" created entropy. What's this?! I feel hungry? Praise be god of the challenge now I have to put food into my mouth.

[@Torby4096]

God seems unjust because of our limited perspective.

[@kennywong5857]

The bottomline is that God doesn't do maitenance of a realm outside of His Kingdom. Wherever outside of His Kingdom is supposed to be a hell. God however granted mercy through Jesus Christ that He promised Noah that He will provide a service agreement to perform a minimum maintenance such that mankind will sustain. The book of Revelation also reveals that the SLA of this service agreement is that it allows up to 1/3 humans die of disasters. So the SLA signed with Noah is that mankind will sustain no matter what but the spike of a compound of disasters may cause up to 1/3 death of humans. Earth is just an environment a bit better than hell. We are told to try our best to return back to God's realm through Jesus Christ. People have such a kind of questions simply because they wrongly assumed that earth is inside God's realm but NO.

[@abategameryt8553]

Then why did he put us in an enviroment barely better than hell

[@Racer_Gee]

God doesn't allow disasters...In Gen 1:26 God said he give all Dominion/authority over the Earth to us

[@Racer_Gee]

Satan stole our ownership and when Jesus died then rose He took it back...So now thru Him we have Dominion again...

[@lanaolushola8894]

Things happen when nature coughs, sneezes or catches a cold - humans are get in the way.

[@samuelnimaful8069]

Even as a christian , I find Frank's argument very weak. Did he really use the perfect 80 year analogy? If so then our hope of a Utopian heaven is deluded and cannot be true.

[@epicchrist2941]

there is a different. We are not fallen in heaven. we do not sin in heaven

[@WilliamsWorldView]

@@epicchrist2941 Why not? Wouldn't that mean you would be stripped of your Free Will? You would no longer be able to do as you please. In heaven if it is impossible to sin, then you'll be a mindless drone forced to do whatever god pleases, regardless of your own wants or needs

[@epicchrist2941]

@@WilliamsWorldView lol, WILLIAMS if you are a christian, You dont want to sin. I dont want to sin. I want it to be impossible to sin. SO yes it is free will because I want that.

[@samuelnimaful8069]

@@WilliamsWorldView Well said Williams!

[@samuelnimaful8069]

@@epicchrist2941 Are you alluding that Sin causes natural disasters?

[@Nereus00]

i came here to lol cause any answer would be dumb

[@azpersonal]

My answer to his question is that will be a good life. Are you kidding me? So somehow evil is necessary. No, it's not, evil will never make sense. Children are getting killed by pedophiles, earthquakes, cancer, and somehow it's necessary or what. Talking about Joseph like it's the same situation. Am tired of people trying to answer questions meant for God that they don't have sensible answers to.

[@wowwow4389]

If there is no evil in the world, how are we supposed to show that we are good? God isn’t required to make our world perfect, rather he gave us the incredible gift of free will to choose to live in happiness, or torment. If there was no natural disasters, no disease, no famine etc, how could we help others? There can be no good without evil. Or else the less good becomes the evil, and the more good becomes the good.

[@theOneThatWas]

There is evil in the world. He forgets to explain that satan sometimes make a move and causes death and destruction.

[@wowwow4389]

Thy 72eaper Really good point actually.

[@theOneThatWas]

@@wowwow4389 I mean God even said that satan can have this world for now. That's one reason why bad stuff happen.

[@wowwow4389]

Thy 72eaper But then we might have to explain why God allows Satan to do that.

[@theOneThatWas]

@@wowwow4389 Imo I think God is trying to give satan a chance to change and do the right thing. Satan was good once so he wants him to change his ways. If he doesn't by the time of revelations then satan will be banished forever. People need to remember that was as humans are stuck in the middle of a war between God and satan.

[@mrdude3523]

I like a lot of your responses to the questions of others, especially in regard to how others view this world as evil when they don't have a standard to measure by other than their own. However, this response about natural disasters didn't seem to provide a satisfactory response at all.

[@danmarley2886]

Read Luke chapter 13. When calamity comes, it is not something that people want to hear, and yet their lives depend on it. It is the word of God, not the soothing opinion of man. Peace be multiplied.

[@seanpittaway5341]

Nonsense again. If you need a book to tell you right from wrong then don't be around good people because you shouldn't be!

[@MemoriesFeelLikeWeapons]

When someone asks God why a certain thing happens, well they should take a pause ask themselves why not? What excellent thing have they done to keep standing alive? And why would someone who commits sin everyday want to demand protection from all this? I'm sure science can help them through this as well 🙄.

[@letsprayandfasttogether9618]

(Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.)

[@ericmago4110]

Don't even mention Bible verses....

[@letsprayandfasttogether9618]

Eric Nielsen Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

[@ericmago4110]

@@letsprayandfasttogether9618 (Nothing has been edited, taken straight out of the Bible: (1 Peter 2:18) "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel." Also: (Psalm 137:9) “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us - he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” And: (Romans 1:27) "In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error." God is good.

[@sukruoosten]

a god who loves everyone is not just ! a god who destroys everyone is also not just no one can alter his decisions en if you deny HIM en HIS POWER you will perish en be burned up en will be remembered NO MORE !!!! THE ALL POWERFUL RIGHTEOUS KING OF EVERYTHING WHO KNOWS ALL EN ALONE IS IMMORTAL YHWH

[@gerard1867]

Hmmmm ripple.... fudge ripple

[@zaidsserubogo261]

Because natural disasters are natural but not super natural

[@user-nj5cl6xs4n]

Who are we to ask why in the first place? We are the clay he is the sculptor.

[@citrineconjurer]

Yeah why should a child question why their father and/or mother beat and starve them to the point that siblings of theirs have died! Their parents made them and are not to be questioned! That's how you sound.

[@user-nj5cl6xs4n]

@@citrineconjurer Read Romans. And those things you listed are results of sin, not of God. Plus, your parents didnt make you. Did your mom literally make your eyes? No. Did your dad literally make your nervous system? No. God did those things. Any suffering we endure is a result of this broken world we are in.

[@citrineconjurer]

@@user-nj5cl6xs4n So god made us to put us in a broken world and die of cancers, parasites, and more? That doesn't sound sadistic to you? If I put a child into the enclosure of some dangerous animals at a zoo, would you not consider that wrong? It's utterly insane how people pretend that a god who loves humanity could exist.

[@user-nj5cl6xs4n]

@@citrineconjurer You sound the same way I did for several decades. If you are actually open even a little bit to learning about God then please go read Romans. Its only 16 chapters long and they are only a few paragraphs long each. If however all you want to do is rail against God then there is no point to me even trying to convince you. My words could never do that anyway. Only God's can. The only thing I can do is direct you to his word and pray for you. I rebelled against God for over two decades before He finally opened my eyes. I hope the same thing happens for you.

[@fabianskaryq5273]

Ohh please . Now they blame god

[@harsesishoktar9386]

This answers NOTHING.

[@cheyennealvis8284]

Because the more fear you create the more certain people bow down and worship you.

[@peteralleyman1945]

So gawd lets bad things happen so we think about him and in the end something good will come out of it, although we will not notice it. So he makes us suffer because he could not think of another way to make us aware of him an/or let the good outcome happen. Really an all powerfull god! And so loving! Turek is telling bs. As usual.

[@7longtime7]

You can see simillarity in how good parents tries to raise their children. Children often see their decisions as mean, unfair, maybe even painful, but later on as they grow older, they are able to look at things from a different perspective, and they feel gratitude towards their parents for doing those things for them. It is not the perfect example, but then you can rarely have one as you try to understand God and his deeds. We are not really capable of comprehending why He do what He do, so we try ouf best to figure it out, but mostly it's just means to believe him completely and blindly, and yes, that could be scary for us people.

[@peteralleyman1945]

@@7longtime7 Did you grow up? If a dad cannot explain something to his child, he's a failure.

[@7longtime7]

@@peteralleyman1945 Even if child stubbornly rejects any kind of logical explanation? You understand that one needs to want to understand what his father is traying to explain to him, because otherwise it's useless. Therefore God can not force us to understand what He does if we reject Him and if we see His deeds as plainly evil and unfair, it is for us to be willing to let Him "in" and allow Him to "explain".

[@peteralleyman1945]

@@7longtime7 According to the holy scriptures of your god, a stubborn child needs to be stoned. Deuteronomy 21: "20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear." I don't need a sky daddy like that, even if he existed.

[@7longtime7]

@@peteralleyman1945 And yet you are here watching these video(s) and citing Bible. :)

[@simclimie6045]

Jesus already answered that question....a wall fell on some people and they died....jesus's response was...which is the real important issue...about they also needed to repent of sin and live to have a relationship with Jehovah...otherwise....there is that real issue is living to know God in a personal relationship...and staying on target..no matter what happens....because Jesus addressed a couple of issues that obviously were brought up...and focused on the main issue...not get side stepped....it's like being an employee for a company and u have task to perform...yes there will be some important questions to ask...but don't get distracted with things that could keep u from getting the task done...

[@MartTLS]

Sim Climie So why was Jesus sacrificed if not to absolve all sins past , present and future?

[@evangelistkimpatrik]

The way of God is sometimes mysterious and we as finite beings don’t always understand. We will never have all the answers in this lifetime.

[@andrewoliver8930]

He used to appear regularly when folks didn't have science. Not so much these days.

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

And how do we know God has not been at work in some people's everyday lives? People who believe see God regularly everyday at work, no?

[@andyashworth7750]

In The Beginning and how do we know it was ‘god’ that they ‘saw’. Surely it makes more sense to be skeptical of them being correct, than being skeptical of them being wrong.

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

@@andyashworth7750 And why does it make more sense to be skeptical of them being correct?

[@andrewoliver8930]

@@ltlsWhatltIs Lots of gods were created by folks then. All have been proven to be wrong. There is absolutely no reason to believe this one is any different.

[@michaelanderson4849]

Why X? Because .... god. Gotcha!

[@ArizonaGunsDave]

This question can never be answered with real logic. I'm not buying it!

[@sukruoosten]

when you are THE CREATOR OF ALL THERE IS you alone are above good en evil en make the rules ! HE gives life en HE takes life He saves en HE destroys some HE loves en some HE hates en there is nothing else to do but worship trust believe en FEAR HIM who NEEDS NOBODY ORE ANYTHING !!!!!!

[@DerGuteHut]

So...there are no moral standards for god? I thought he is supposed to be some kind of role model...also...its said that he loves his creation...and you don't torture what you love. You might wanna teach lessons...but what lesson can be learned from a volcano burning down a village killing everyone in it. Good and evil are human terms...we can call a human good or we can call him evil...and we might disagree about that...but we can only say god is good based on what we consider good...like for example... healing people or helping them to get out of a dangerous situation or giving them comfort if they are sad. If those are gods good actions...and we call them good...we can as well call his actions evil...like drowning everybody because no-one fits his moral standards. Thats fucked up...here is a better way to handle it...lower your moral standards...if just one family meet them they are obviously unrealistic. That would be the moral thing to do for every parent or leader....thats like death penalty for every-one who ever downloaded an mp3. And it gets worth if god doesn't punish other people for the same "crimes".

[@Android-ds9ie]

@@DerGuteHut god is evil

[@jesussavessinner1315]

Revelation 12:12 (KJV) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. The devil is to blame not The Holy LORD. The Bible gives an answer to every question pertaining to good and evil . This is one reason that The Lord Jesus Christ commands us to diligently search the scriptures

[@elvirareis9634]

BECAUSE OF THE REBELION OF MANKIND. EVEN ADAM ATE THE FRUIT THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED. WE ARE A LINE OF SINFUL PEOPLE THAT ONLY THE BLOOD ( GODS' PLAN OF SALVATION). OF JESUS COULD WIPE AWAY OUR SIN BY BELIEVING. JOHN 3:16

[@elvirareis9634]

WHY DOES GOD NOT ONLY SAY TO BELIEVE, BUT THERES ALSO ACTS 2:38

[@danmarley2886]

SeeLuke chapter 13, where Jesus and the disciples discussed those on whom the tower of Siloam fell. Wherefore, Jesus said "Do you think that these perished because they were the chiefest of sinners? I tell you nay, but except you repent you shall likewise perish." Be not deceived, every disobedience and transgression receives a just recompense of reward. God is no respecter of persons. Again be reminded, repent. Grace and Peace.

[@njabuloncube1538]

I disagree. You gave a Joseph example and a baby dying example they are not the same. Joseph was chosen to save His people the example of the baby is random.

[@lilchristuten7568]

Sometimes things just happen because sin is in the world, we as believers have the authority to speak to calamities and cause them to cease, weaken, or worsen. However since God has given authority over the earth into the hands of mankind (Psalm 115:16) and because words are spirit, and because the fear of the wicked shall overtake them (proverbs 10:24) and because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks (Matthew 12:34) and because life and death are in the power of the tongue (proverbs 18:21); those who speak the disaster over themselves will receive disaster in their lives regardless of their belief in God [I heard this story, that a woman was afraid of a certain bridge in her town, she continuously spoke that one day the bridge would collapse and kill her, she was so afraid that she went out of her way to avoid that bridge, one day the bridge collapsed and she died in the collapse. Her relatives questioned why, the answer given to them was because while she did not cause the collapse the spiritual law of her confession made sure that she was on the bridge when it did collapse.(she spoke in fear, she spoke out what was in her heart, and she spoke what she truly believed, as such her spoken belief became her reality)]

[@stevenfoulger6066]

We live in a fallen world that God in His grace chooses to work and move in despite of the sinful nature of mankind in order to give us, an undeserving people, every opportunity to accept his free gift to be reconciled to Him through His son Jesus Christ and thus spend an eternity with Him. If this world was perfect, what would we want Heaven for? " For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us." Romans 8"18

[@DerGuteHut]

DID he give people the opportunity to accept his free gift? Because it seems like god is shockingly disinterested in spreading his message. He can talk to everyone on earth...not bound by things like travel distances or languages...right. But still he hasn't talked to any Austalian prior to the arrival of christian settlers/conquerors. The same goes for both Americas, parts of Africa, Europe...etc. etc. 100 of Generations have not even heard about him. Can you explain that? So...doesn't god want those people to experience Christ and give'em a fair chance to get into heaven? It almost seems like the Abrahamic religions spread exactly like every other idea...by people telling other people about it...like...like people invented it and no supernatural being has any interest in spreading it.

[@stevenfoulger6066]

@@DerGuteHut it takes two to have a conversation. One talks, the other listens. My guess is that you yourself have heard the Gospel message at least a few times. You've obviously heard it a least once since I assume you watched this video, but instead of accepting the message, you're complaining. Therefore, it seems like you've answered your own question by example. I know of missionaries in the most remote places on earth who are helping to spread the Gospel message, so if you're in Australia and you have never heard of Christ you really have no excuse. Especially in the days of the Internet. So since it's obvious that you've heard the Gospel message at least once, what's stopping you from accepting it now? None of us are guaranteed tomorrow. The decisions we make today have eternal consequences. Please give it some thought.

[@DerGuteHut]

​ Steven Foulger "You've obviously heard it a least once since I assume you watched this video," Yes...I went to two different schools run by the church...I had my fair dose of Gospel. - ", but instead of accepting the message, you're complaining" Wait..I'am not allowed to question things? Hmkay. But the point is...this message claims to have divine origin..right. So...if I want to trust it...and put it over the word of everyone else I need evidence for that claim. And of course I can't ignore contrary evidence that might point to a worldly origin. I'am doing exactly that. - "Therefore, it seems like you've answered your own question by example." No I haven't...because it was not about people of today it was about people who where born after Jesus but where never informed by god about the thing that he cares most about...for some reason. Could that reason be that its not god interested in spreading those word but humans? Yes. So...you have any reason for me to rule that possibility out? - "so if you're in Australia and you have never heard of Christ you really have no excuse. " Lets see....Australia was "discovered" by the Europeans in the 17th century. Jesus lived and died in the 1th century. So...everyone who lived within that time period has a PERFECT excuse. So again my question...Why haven't god told them about Jesus if he A) loves all people and is totally not a racist...and if he is its usually because this tribe was mean to the hebrews. B) Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation. C) Talking to them is as easy as talking to all those middle eastern and later European or American people. D) Talking to people in their dreams and sending prophets is NOT against his Nature...as shown in the bible. The point is...if god is real...we would expect him to be known by all people and NOT to spread like a human idea that can only move if people move. Also...WHEN the missionaries arrive...what would have been wrong with a few lousy miracles to convince those new people...and I talk about REAL miracles....like let Aires rock hover and turn into a cross or something. That would probably converted most of the natives and therefor didn't give the Europeans a reason to slaughter and enslave them. Hmm.....seems like god is surprisingly okay with those things. - "what's stopping you from accepting it now?" Well...a lot of things...but the questions above are a thing. Would be pretty hard to deny a religion that all people knew...no matter if they had contact with other people or not. But if EVERY tribe or cultural region has its own gods....that kind of point to the fact that people made them up (which also explains why all the people usually think they where the first created and the one chosen by higher forces) Funfact...THAT (that the Indigenous people of the world already knew about the bible) was exactly what most europeans expected when they discovered new civilisations...they had the same questions than me...but somehow glossed over it and assumed that those people are savages that god must be okay with killing, robbing or enslaving. Please give it some thought.

[@MrHPT3]

Luke 4:5 4:6 Bad things happen because Satan is the ruler of all kingdoms of the world. And may I add, the only way for us to live in a fallen world is to live in Christ.

[@honester-g6k]

Ripple effect of ww1 is ww2 and ww2 is cold war and it did not make anything good

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

that was mankinds doing not Gods doing

[@kostasz7z]

One more major reason. This world is TEMPORARY and all injustice will be rectified in the AFTER LIFE which is FOREVER. Crying or whining about bad stuff that happen here is luck of faith in the Saviour Jesus Christ. Yes its natural to think about it , ask and wonder but dont focus on it like crybabies.

[@deedak8342]

Most ridiculous answer I have ever heard. This is just making excuses for this God. Why do people at the microphone let him get away with this? God is all powerful. You think an all powerful God needs to setup a ripple affect??? Ridiculous!!

[@gearsofwar4261]

I prefer to die at age of 200

[@PEPE-sg2hm]

God is completely silent while humans claim and defend his/her/its existence and actions. 🤔

[@AngelGuerratherealme]

If it happens, is so we can get closer to him.

[@WaveFunctionCollapsed]

Simple question should be Why god is like this 😂

[@martinlag1]

The scientific view is that disasters happen from time to time. Since on average, they are not ever stopped, there is no evidence for divine action and there is no evidence for God. To suppose that sentient beings wanting good things proves God, since God is the standard of goodness, is childish. His kids probably roll their eyes but his congregation worship him.

[@americangunslinger2475]

Where's your evidence that there is no God?

[@christianwood1042]

americangunslinger 24/7 trust me bro don’t waste your precious because they literally have no evidence or whatsoever. Save your time

[@shogun0127]

because they're natural

[@skoulikiagamwtanekrasas]

i think frank can do every atheist christian

[@abategameryt8553]

Or make every christian an atheist

[@mereservant1052]

God will destroy those who destroy the earth (Revelation 11:18)

[@jogriffin9347]

mere servant Hmmmmm well he is a little late now

[@Kaymen1980]

And you probably vote Trump 😂

[@Bohica-tq3ps]

Matthew, Mark and Luke all tell us Jesus foretold that the end times would be preceeded by Nation being against Nation , there would be pestilence, famine and earthquakes in diverse places. Strong's concordance tells us Nation comes from Ethnos, a race or tribe of people of like mindedness.Jesus goes on to say that ALL these are the beginning of birth pains. If ALL these things are happening with an increase of intensity and closer together our redemption is near. George Mason, credited with being the Father of the Bill of Rights, even said the laws of nature are the laws of God and cannot be superseded by any power on earth, and as no nation can be rewarded or punished in the next world, they must be in this world. Providence punishes National sins by natural calamities. The Bible is clear that God has chastised people and Nations for their sins, but in the end times it will encompass the whole world. When mankinds sins reach a predetermined point all nations will be made to drink from God's cup of wrath. Even so, come Lord Jesus

[@DerGuteHut]

"Jesus foretold that the end times would be preceeded by Nation being against Nation" And that wasn't the case. Remember....the Roman empire was pretty much against god...they kicked the ass of his people, burned down the temple and than outlawed Christianity for hundred of years killing Christians, including some of Jesus own disciples...its hard to be more "against god" than this? And yet...the Roman Empire went down over a thousand years ago and the world is still there. So...no...that predictions was completely wrong. And even worse...Jesus gave specific orders what to do....I give him the benefit of the doubt and say he wasn't talking about some cataclysmic event but the possible consequences of a failed uprising which was already in the air back in the days...and that...to his credit...took place like he predicted it...(beside the coming of the kingdom of god of course) but the temple was destroyed and the hebrews got their ass handed to them ....and fleeing in the mountains was probably one of the smarter choices. But if you want to link those words with the end of the times....it doesn't work out...keep in mind that Jesus directly addressed people...NOT their ancestors in over 2000 years....and if he does...most Nations of today are way less hostile to christians than the roman empire...so...beside a handful of nations run by muslim extremists...this criteria doesn't even fit our time. And nations have to suffer gods wrath? Really? Because a lot of nations who are not very religious doing surprisingly fine...while nations with dedicated believers are somehow not immune to suffering....almost like its worldly reasons wether or not your nation thrives and not which god you force people to talk to. So...the (really) good news is that we don't live in biblical end times....the bad news...world is still fucked because of all the pollution and climate change...maybe a little nuclear war some day.

[@Bohica-tq3ps]

@@DerGuteHut The time Jesus spoke of was in the future. What happened to Israel fulfilled old testament prophecy and was a shadow of things to come. Please note that Jesus said ALL of these things are the beginning of BIRTH PAINS. Just as a womans birth pains begin slowly and culminate with the birth so will the second coming of Christ. The first world war made ready a land for the Jews, the second world war made the Jews ready for their land. They chose to name that land Israel (they could have chosen any name) and it became a Nation in 1948. No people has ever been dispersed for that long a time, gotten their land back and retained their language and ethnicity. The end times clock began ticking again in 1948. The world will be in chaos, just as Germany was when Hitler came forth with the promise of saving them, only this time it will be the deceiver, the Anti Christ, promising to save the world and most will be deceived.

[@naturalLin]

Well after God created after 6 days and on 7th day he rested. There was no more creation. The earth was very good. No disasters. Natural disasters came after the Flood.

[@seshuaiyar5047]

So Flood was not Natural?

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

@@seshuaiyar5047 God cause it so no it wasn't natural