Why don't most CLONE TROOPERS look the same? | Star Wars Lore

[@piercepayumo4212]

"There's not much to look at here sir. We all share the same face."

[@drewm5335]

In the eyes of the force different you are

[@AaronDarkus]

*Not to me...* -Plo Koon.

[@dakotaolivier3609]

pierce payumo og clone wars fans

[@dakotaolivier3609]

Always focused on the enemy you are

[@drewm5335]

@@dakotaolivier3609 For inspiration look to yourself and those beside you

[@lordbrain8867]

Forget about looks, I want to know why that one clone in the cadets episode had a surfer accent and the other in domino squad had an Irish accent

[@AceUzumazi]

Obviously one cadet met a Kaminoan or Mandalorian surfer and the other met Jacksepticeye. "Top of the morning to you galaxy! My name is JangoSepticEye!"

[@michaelramon2411]

Some of the accent stuff might be from clones deliberately trying to stand out among the crowd. It is also possible that it is an out-of-universe effect to represent a more subtle difference that makes clone voices distinctive to those who know them. For example, I've always guessed that the members of Delta Squad in the Republic Commando game sound the same in-universe, but very slight differences allow them to tell each other's voices apart. Out-of-universe, this is represented by each clone having a different voice actor, which obviously doesn't make sense otherwise.

[@evanreza4712]

@@eggburger5978 I don't think your accent has anything to do with your DNA. If you're ethnically Chinese but you're born in London and grow up in an English environment, you're not going to magically have a Chinese accent through genetics.

[@eggburger5978]

Evan Reza Your right I just heard that’s why they had different accents from some friends. They either trained themselves to speak in an accent to make them more like individuals, either that or they were trained by bounty hunters that had different accents.

[@askell5049]

@@evanreza4712 Your accent will be English yes, but certain parts of your voice are ethnic. Pitch, tone, things like that.

[@EvilghostNinja]

blond hair and blue eyes might have been recessive traits Jango had and some how became active in the cloning process.

[@goodmind4940]

Jango's mother had blond hair

[@robertnelson9599]

Considering they never explain the details of how the clones are born, this could be possible.

[@dragonweyr44]

some clones appear to be right handed and some are left handed? This is best seen when in Revenge of the Jedi when Senator Organa arrives at the Jedi Temple and is shot at

[@iprofox3758]

@@dragonweyr44 good eye!

[@st4rlightr4v3n4]

I think it would make sense too if the Kaminoans were to give subtle variations to the otherwise exact clones, such as hair color, eye color, etc. to give them a sense of individualism. They were encouraged to develop their own personality and sense of style, likely to give them that individual comfort and the feeling that they were in fact their own person, and I think it follows that a few cosmetic tweaks in the sample DNA would only serve to improve that effect.

[@Fi_Sci_]

The Clone Wars Show did a pretty good job explaining why most of the Clones don’t look the same, it’s either their Stretched genetic Code, or the fact that they themselves wanted to look Distinct from one another intentionally, even as far as Nicknames. That much can be said when most clones fashion different patterns to their armor to avoid confusion and to look recognizable.

[@sagetheassassin3192]

Also their different generations of clones.

[@Fi_Sci_]

Sage The Assassin -Super Gamer yeah that too, considering later generations like Domino Squad proved more unpredictable since they were among the Clones birthed from Stretched codes.

[@pwnmeisterage]

The Kaminoans kept tinkering and tweaking, too. Each new batch had some minor code updates - along with a few experimental/variant individuals - which attempted to correct perceived flaws or improve their "quality" in combat, even though they were still same product generation. At least up to the final large orders (and youngest clones) prodiced at the onset of the Clone Wars.

[@Fi_Sci_]

P and the result of Kaminoan Tinkering is Clone Force 99, one of the most unpredictable Clone squadrons that proved effective on the Frontlines. Not to mention none of them looked like Jango Fett given their Unique genetic Coding and modified abilities

[@Unchainedmaple888]

You would think that calculating and shrewd individuals such as the Kaminoans would have prepared for the possibility that Jango would die by making sure they collected enough genetic material in reserve from Jango in case anything happened to him. Also you would think in a high tech universe like Star Wars, the Kaminoans shouldn't even need a physical genetic template after making a digitalized copy of Jango's genes, but that would lower the stakes lol

[@josepheastham9717]

Only the Alpha Arch Troopers were close to "Pure Jango" as far as Troopers. The normal clone troopers later on in the war did have differences in the genetics to be sure.

[@nightwing2032]

Joseph Eastham the alpha arc troops weren’t the only ones the nulls arc troopers were also almost like jango’s mannerisms.

[@Asko83]

Even the regular clone troopers from the first batches were modified because they had been built to grow up faster and be better team players compared to the original who was a bit of a loner. ...Honestly it seems to me that the idea of using a lone bounty hunter as the template for an army wasn't well thought out and starting from finding a soldier (even a mercenary) who already was good at serving as a part of a larger unit would have been a better fit. But the point is that the clones were modified not only in bodies growing differently than normal humans but also they had gone through behavioural changes and since it is plausible that this programming of their minds would also have minor differences in individuals simply because of the scale, there never was a chance of making them all identical even if they tried. Too many factors and too many clones to avoid 0,01% chances of piling up.

[@R0-83-RT]

@@Asko83 While the clones were modified to be less independent, this seems like a natural safety protocol than anything else. Jango Fett did fight along the True Mandalorians, so team corporation is definitely within Jango's capabilities. The problem would be if too many clones were independent it would make their behavior less predictable and more likely for mutiny. Granted the clone army was never made because of their obedience in the first place, rather due to Jango's ability to kill a Jedi, having Clones and Jedi close when order 66 came ensured the Jedi purge.

[@josepheastham9717]

@@nightwing2032 i can't believe i forgot the nulls!

[@Unemerix]

you know that identical twins dna also differs because of later dna changes (like uv radiation or gamma and xrays also viruses can do this)

[@dragonweyr44]

Identical twins and clones are not the same thing

[@tristanr7581]

@@dragonweyr44 they're pretty close, closest we can really get irl with our current know technology.

[@dragonweyr44]

I don't think so. We ARE able to clone living beings and have been able to for quite some time. As in the case of Dolly the sheep. We just never gotten to the morality of cloning humans yet

[@tristanr7581]

Exactly why we cant really say for humans. And closing living organisms isnt exactly cloning like growing the organisms in a lab or anything. It's very different, but of course you know that.

[@dragonweyr44]

Right, unless we as a species or even just a country, lessen up on our morality against cloning humans,especially on an industrial scale like the Kaminoans do, we'll never know if we can or can't

[@st4rlightr4v3n4]

4:45 "Can I copy your N7 armor?" "Okay, but change it a little so the teacher doesn't notice"

[@PeanutStrawberry]

I don't get it...

[@trashmammal9562]

@@PeanutStrawberry Looks like Shepard's N7 armor from Mass Effect.

[@personman1148]

66 likes.

[@elvimartinez5629]

2x

[@thegreatders344]

2:35 who told him that was a good cut??

[@shorewall]

This clone will be a teacher, so we'll shave a receding hairline onto him. :D

[@ha9706]

It really looks strange I think he tryed to look older and more wise, even if he is in same age like a lot of other clones lol

[@Persona6Blue]

I like your cut, G *Smacks head*

[@bigmike9947]

That's nothing compared to Commander Gree, that Clone could have hair loss with age or stress or environmental factors, Gree just has a stupid haircut Edit: Apparently the "double stripe" (not a very clever name) is a symbol of honor for fallen Clone Troopers and a pretty popular haircut in the G.A.R, so Gree's cut isn't so stupid after all

[@ltb1345]

Michael Kilsdonk RIP Gree.

[@MrRobotchicken10]

Epigenetics, it’s why identical twins can look different IRL. Different environments turn on/off different genes. Nothing to change eye color or stuff, but more subtle stuff is common

[@samiamrg7]

Eye color changes could legitimately be caused by tiny variations in the cloning process that manifest, say, one time out of a batch of thousands. And I think that whatever the Kaminoans do to speed to speed up their growth could plausibly cause minor changes in voice and face shape.

[@sc_art5408]

Quite the “Clone Army” they’ve got going on...

[@sagetheassassin3192]

Fett and arms

[@33bearcats45]

👋😃 😬👌

[@EnterpriseC14]

Vatborn army is probably a better explanation. But to grim dark for star wars.

[@meisteravinderweise4893]

My question is: Why did no jedi ever deactivate Grevious's lightsabers? Like, I am aware of idea of force shields which prevent jedi from deactivating each other's lightsabers, but Grevious lacked the force.. Why did no jedi just charge at him, deactivate his lightsabers while attacking, cut off all his limbs and force carry him away into a prison? A talent padawan could've probably done that, not even to mention a jedi master or council member.

[@zachbishop6980]

Because of plot armor

[@SuperiorIronman98]

@@zachbishop6980 that is not a real reason

[@Jack-kx5rf]

Or force push his chest and force pull his head and snap him in half? To answer the question, most lightsabres had this thing called an on/off switch. If he's pressing down on it they can't deactivate it. Also, in ANH Obi-Wan describes the force as "an energy field created by all living things.", In TPM Qui-Gon says all living things are powered by medichlorians (The thing that makes the energy fields mentions by Obi-Wan). Technically everything alive in Star Wars is force sensitive. I think the Jedi definition of "force sensitive" is someone who can use the force actively rather than just passively.

[@gizzmo268]

Being afraid decreases their power and so general grievous was designed to be scary by dooku and palpatine

[@Mgauge]

I’ve met “identical” twins that barely look like siblings, let alone the natural “clones” they are genetically. So many factors go into appearance that it only makes sense that these clones would start looking more distinct with time.

[@Chaps_117]

Here’s a Topic that I find interesting, what happened to all the young Clones? Like were they imprisoned, become part of Vaders Fist? Just a thought there for you

[@aliwahab1255]

Holy shit I never thought about that

[@Unsound_advice]

Spaced.

[@cyqry]

Vader gave them personal tutoring.

[@vincemadarang1446]

Chaps they trained the last batch and then shut down the factories

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

It's not like aging slowed down, so didn't take long for them to age and be useable men. It's not like they transitioned from clones to the enlisted men they used for Stormtroopers over night. I'm sure they had plenty of uses for the last batch born up until the time they just aged out (which would be fairly faster then a human due to their advanced growth anyway).

[@sagetheassassin3192]

Hey, sometimes brothers don't look the same, it's all about Trust.

[@jackrabbit4617]

Yes

[@Inferno7766]

No no he’s got a point

[@sparklyqueen12]

Yes

[@dhereaktienner3552]

My sister is brown with dark hair, and I am pale with brown hair, median or light

[@cullanmurray46]

Imagine it would be covered during the series on the battle of Umbara but could you do videos talking about the technology and weapons of the Umbaran military?

[@Rafael-qd3yq]

Nice, but it's Umbra clones actually. Umbra is latin for Shadow

[@Marconius6]

A lot of these actually might be partially environmental: eye color can change due to various reasons during gestation or even after birth (many babies are born with blue eyes that later become brown); hair growth and baldness is affected by stress, etc.

[@Cobruh_Commander]

Baldness is mostly, if not purely genetic, stress has little to do or nothing to do with hair loss.

[@Marconius6]

@@Cobruh_Commander www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/expert-answers/stress-and-hair-loss/faq-20057820 Not all kinds of hair loss is caused by stress, but it's definitely a factor.

[@shawnb.2558]

The accelerated ageing probably also plays a role. Forces cells to multiple more rapidly, increasing the chance of a mutation.

[@Gigas0101]

Personal theory: I think that the clones had their genes modified during growth, possibly with other human stock mixed in to stretch the sample from Jango as far as possible without suffering the effects of genetic degradation from all those repeated clones. Also, I'd really like a new episode of Clone Wars to drop a hint to Jango's body being recovered post-mortem and kept on ice for the Caminoans.

[@thedapperbanana119]

Title: “Why do clones look so different?” English Major: Ah, he’s mistaken some of his writings.

[@davidmccarthy4206]

What would the correct writing be ? As a non-english speaker I'm interested

[@nathanielmorgan9108]

@@davidmccarthy4206 as an English speaker I am interested

[@smokestack3327]

David McCarthy it’s a note on the irony of the video name as by definition Clones are supposed to be identical in every way in the ideal world. But the reality of it is that these “clones” are more like asexual offspring than clones since they have differences.

[@thorshammer7883]

Between Star Wars Expanded Universe mass drivers and UNSC mac guns which weapons were more destructive or decisive and useful in space combat?

[@lenkagamine4145]

Definitely the halo ones. The star wars ones are inneffective against shields, the halo ones one-shot ships with diamond nanocomposite armor.

[@randomuno2562]

In irl science they are all basically railguns so generally the same

[@aviatorengineer3491]

Mass drivers never seemed to be used on a very large scale in Star Wars - mostly the main gun on the AT-TE or LAAT, or flak guns on starships, judging from what I can find. All pretty small, nothing like the scale of MACs in Halo. Even the smallest versions of MACs we've seen - the Halo 4 Mammoth's mini-MAC or the Onager mass driver from Reach - far outclass any of the mass drivers from Star Wars. A shipborne main gun like the one on a Paris-class frigate deals a completely different level of damage, and the orbital defense platforms around Reach and Earth go even farther beyond that sort of firepower.

[@user-re8pd6vm2x]

It's good that they are personalized. 1) The Jedi can distinguish them much easier. 2) Boosts morale and makes them feel more human. 3) The clones could tell who is who instead of hoping they can find out who is who.

[@Frizzleman]

Really love this video and personally I really enjoy how they created the clones for the show, even the armour puts a lot of history into it. Having just learned gene stuff in bio class I’m sure genetic variation would be vary common among thousands of generations of cloning so great video my man.

[@wyatttyson7737]

The eyes thing also seemed as if recessive genes were being expressed. Blue eyes are recessive, but commonly still present, so if Jango had them there is a chance that a clone with the same DNA could express it differently.

[@LocalCryptidGhostdoll]

I bet you could pin a lot of the variation on slight epigenetic differences between clone batches. Always the same dna, but with occasional different traits within that dna switched on or off. I would imagine when you are cloning hundreds of thousands of people, complete control over epigenetic variation was difficult, and potentially seen as unnecessary

[@Darmoth85]

I mean... there has to be something psychological about it too. Knowing you're a clone must on some level make you want to form an identity that's your own, rather then just the numbers assigned to you.

[@zachleno7718]

This is a classic nature vs nurture argument one in which it’s easier to take the side of nurture as even though nature(genetically) they may be the same the different up bringing and experiences changes how they look act and who they are as a person and trooper

[@ADR1fley]

Hey Eck, could you do a video about how in the last few episodes of S6, Yoda goes through trials to become a force ghost and to learn to keep his identity, but in Rise of Skywalker, every Jedi Master motivates Rey?

[@michaelramon2411]

I don't think those two points are in contradiction. All or at least most Jedi become a part of the great cosmic Force when they die (it is less clear if that is the same for non-Force-users). The reason becoming a Force ghost is difficult is because you have to learn how to retain your identity in that situation, which Yoda, Obi-wan and Qui-gon did. When Rey taps into the cosmic Force at the end, she can feel presence of all of those Jedi, even though most of them could not have formed a Force ghost on their own.

[@ADR1fley]

@@michaelramon2411 Nah man, when you become part of the cosmic force, you lose all sense of identity. That's the whole point of force ghosts, it's the only (light side) way to keep your identity in death. My point is that the sequel writes have shown multiple times that they don't care for the cannon and mechanics of the universe set before them.

[@lenkagamine4145]

@@ADR1fley well you sound like you already made up your mind and just want eck to repeat your opinion back to you. Michael's answer makes perfect sense, after all in star wars afterlives are sometimes mentioned. Wouldnt make sense if all dead people completely lost their identity.

[@tylerstocker6189]

That's what I love about this show, yeah these guys are clones, but they're each an individual person too. I've never been able to think of Rex as the same as Cody, for instance. They may all share the same face, but they are as unique as any brothers can be.

[@jupiterapollo4985]

The amount of differences they inhabit wouldn't really exist when you think about the fact that they are all cloned from the literal cells of the same exact person, and all brought up in the same enviroment. There would be very minor if any noticable differnece in reality. But in a narrative sense with the cartoons that have to run for like 4 seasons, with these characters being very integral to the show, it makes sense to heavily differentiate them (accents, personality, mannerisms) for the viewers. The prequeal movies did it right. Millitary copies of Jango bred to follow orders.

[@RunTheNumbers]

It’s also possible that the age acceleration process increases the chance of variations and mutations

[@elijahrussjr]

I do have a science background because several members of my family became nurses. The reason why the Clones looks so different is because the kaminoans had to rush the cloning process in doing so they couldn't had the Clones look the same each and every time because they had to rush things, this means you had to tamper with certain aspects of the DNA just to be able to have the Clones come out at all and as you said there was only a small amount of genetic material to work with. The only way to get a pure clone that's an exact replica of the original is the have a vast amount of genetic material available. You would have to have the equivalent of 3 sperm banks worth of material from Jango Fett in order to make exactly perfect clones.

[@ThePrehistoricLord]

Three things go into determining phenotype (the physical traits you display, such as hair color and eye color): genotype, environmental factors, and a little bit random chance. Your genotype is essentially your dna and all the different traits that are programmed into. Not all of these traits will necessarily be displayed in your phenotype, but it does factor into it. After all, if you don't have the allele for blonde hair in your genotype, you can't have naturally blonde hair. Environmental factors, such as nutrients, chemical exposure in the womb, exposure to radiation, or a fever as baby, affects phenotype as well, either by causing a person to develop differently or causing a dormant trait in their genotype to turn active. As with just about everything in the universe random chance also plays a role in affecting a being's phenotype.

[@fpshightide]

0:40 I have never seen that bloody in my life what episode was this and why does that look hilarious 😂😂

[@andrewadamski8547]

It could be because our understanding of cloning has changed from episode 2 to the clone wars. Now a days, we understand that if you cloned a human, they would probably look like siblings, but not identical, as human experience affects our physical development as much as genetics do. They all start out the same, but as they age, they could look like twins, siblings or drastically different. Also like you said, genetic mutation is a naturally occurring thing, and even identical twins who are natural clones (from a science stand point), deal with mutations that alter one from the other. I'd say the clone wars clones are much more realistic (as realstic as anything star wars can be) than the identical, copy and paste clones from Episode 2

[@Mysikrysa]

This. And also the storytelling factor plays a role here. We don´t need to distinguish one clone from the other in Episode 2 because the story doesn´t revolve around them as characters. they are just the army of clones and that´s it. In the Clone Wars they are important characters with their own story arcs and we need to distinguish who is who.

[@age3801]

I think that a some point the kaminoans use others dna samples to enhance the clones survival on the different planets they were to be sent. For example, clones that were to be sent on a frozen planet like Hoth were modified to resist the cold, and clones that were to be sent on a desert world like Tatooine were modified to resist the hot.

[@coconutthecockatiel478]

Some genes might just be recessive genes that Jango carried that got passed on and showed themselves in his clones.

[@OrDuneStudios]

Even if you regulate everything there will be differences and mutations as cells dont all act with the same efficiency or even sometime act in ways unintended

[@darthbatman2852]

I've seen that outro an infinite number of times and it still makes me laugh. I love that dog.

[@RepublicStuds]

Can you analyze the visual effects vid for the rise of Skywalker

[@DirtyDanRichards]

To explain Eye color. It is genetic but blue eyes are actually a mutation that happen naturally. Blue eyes and blonde hair are actually randomly occurring mutations and not caused by any genes or DNA. Now it could be the different eye and hair colors are the result of Jango's family, the genes of his parents and grand parents still being in his DNA. Damn this got me to think a lot more about cloning in fiction.

[@isaacc473]

Visual traits have several versions called alleles, so despite using the same piece of DNA, there can be a lot of variety in looks. You've probably seen identical twins and are able to tell them apart and if you have millions of identical twins, there is bound to be some with naturally different features and rare cases of mutations.

[@randomdudewalkingdownthest8158]

Jango could easily have several recessive traits that emerged during cloning.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

Dude, they’re like siblings. Same genetics, different presenting aspects. Fett had the ability to present his dominant or recessive traits, and his clones will have variants on that.

[@Obsolete_E]

This idea is cool because that means that a whole battalion would look quite similar to eachother as they have been on the same missions exposed to the same stuff. And they would look different to other battalions

[@flyingsaucer2227]

Judging by my very narrow understanding of genetics, I think due to mutations during the growth of clones or from later on would cause those differences. Also something that I think is cool is how the clones of animals irl last about half as long as the original parent animal making Star Wars clones slightly more realistic

[@Noggg.]

*Clones when people start judging their personality:* **Order 67 music kicks in**

[@TheWingland]

What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck

[@Phoenix1Leader]

Hey Eckhart, just had a suggestion for another Who Would Win video for you: We’ve gotten plenty of Star Wars and Halo but how about some Stargate? Namely a Wraith vs Goauld invasion or vice versa? With the Jaffa ground troops being sustained by infant symbiotes, could the Jaffa be immune or at least resistant to the Wraith feeding? After all, Teal’c was fed on and he almost shrugged it off and that was without a symbiote! I namely would like you to address if the Goauld invaded the Pegasus galaxy right when the Wraith reawaken. How would the Pegasus humans respond? Would they ally with the Goauld seeing them as saviors? Would the Goauld go along with it? Or what if the Wraith invaded the Milky Way? They wouldn’t have access to the cloning facility there and what if the system lords allied themselves with one another and maybe even the Asgard? I think that you could really sink your teeth into this idea!

[@macwelch8599]

The genetic material wasn’t pure enough

[@TealDobber]

There is also the possibility of the clones being able to modify their appearance in ways not available to us. Like maybe eye colour can be without contacts. Accent maybe changed deliberately through training, possibly offered for other reasons, not just because they want it. Loved the video! Thanks

[@cybersmith_videos]

At least some of them could be using cybernetics, and I believe Galaxy's Edge suggested that coloured contact lenses exist in the GFFA (which would go some way towards explaining why Saw Gerrera has had blue, green, and brown eyes).

[@mcsmedia8081]

@EckhartsLadder have you covered the Revenge class heavy carrier shown in IMPS?

[@hugostiglitz2861]

you're doing gods work, don't stop

[@darthtalos4714]

Could you cover the space battle of Christophsis

[@marco117sw]

I believe there's always a chance of slight deviations whenever you're copying anything. I believe it's extremely hard to get an exact copy of anything.

[@triplesix2734]

Also according to the legends commando stories, it also vary in training and trainers. Also including battlefield

[@raccoonja-ronja]

It could be recessive traits, mutations or body modification. In that one episode of Clone Wars Obi-Wan had a surgery to look like a completly different person, so changing ones eye or hair colour permanently could be as easy as getting a tattoo in the Star Wars universe.

[@yamibakura8597]

I never really thought about it until now, but I think the most likely explanation is since the Jango Fett sample was being stretched thin, the Kaminoans were bolstering the clone genome with samples taken from other soldiers, sort of how the scientists in Jurassic Park used Frog DNA for the parts of Dinosaur DNA that they didn't have.

[@thebaccathatchews]

I'm thinking the Kaminos tweaked Jango's DNA because, after the war, the clones would have entered the general population and have offspring. That much genetic material, if it were identical, would no doubt cause genetic problems in the future.

[@ltb1345]

The clones aren't fertile though.

[@stunner9005]

LegoTurtle Brickfilms they are actually, just not many have the drive to have families(on purpose of course).

[@Mysikrysa]

That´s interesting idea and it makes a lot of sense. Or, to avoid this problems, the clones might be genetically altered to be infertile. The accelerated ageing might be a problem in itself. If a clone wanted to settle down with a wife, he would be 80 years old when she would be 40. This is almost human-Elf level of heartbreaking stuff for a relationship. I don´t think the clones were ever meant to be retired though. They were treated like the disposable war material since they were born. Maybe, if noone needed them anymore after the war, they would be just euthanized.

[@CivilWarBuff82]

Also, in republic commando and 2005 Battlefront 2, the clones tend to have different voices/accents.

[@CornChips-di7zu]

My basic understanding of genetics + what I know about the clones leads me to this conclusion. When they Kaminoans say they’ve “stretched” the DNA of the clones, it’s most likely referring to not using gene therapy and genetic engineering to alter the clones epigenetics to give them more desirable traits. They don’t want to waste too much of their genetic sample supply on tweaking little things like hair color, eye color, etc if they aren’t the standard brown. Also the reason that can happen is because Jango likely inherited the “blonde” gene, but the brown hair gene is what was activated on his genetic code so he had brown hair. So somewhere in the process of cloning him, it is possible that some of his clones may have had blonde hair if the Kaminoans left certain epigenic combinations up to chance in hopes of finding desirable mutations (aka, the bad batch), and then not having a steady surplus of genetic material to fix minor mutations lead them to not care as much about a clones hair being blonde or eyes being blue. So yes that’s my take on things.

[@bigiron1311]

I heard somewhere that even the way you hold your toung in your mouth can change your face shape. Idk if it would work on some with advanced ageing but could be a difference In faces

[@nunyabusiness4904]

An interesting take and I'd like to expand on it, I have an identical twin brother, genetically we are the exact same, however he's a few inches shorter than me, when we were born he was severely underweight and I was a healthy size, this has to do with the fact that prior to our birth I was on the side of my mother's body that got better circulation. Even 24 years later I am noticeably taller than him, we've got drastically different personalities and have different interests resulting in me being a bit thinner than he is and when we speak people have said he has a noticeable lisp while I don't.

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

"Same heart same blood! And my blood's itching for a fight!"

[@jedithenoooblet2680]

Do a video on a history of general Krell PLEASE

[@chrisortega7521]

These “odd clones” are essentially the the “0.1%” that have all of Jango’s recessive traits. Just thinking of how we know genetics and nurture play a key in a person’s “everything,” I.E.: who they are, what, and why they think. Now, the Kminoan’s are much more advanced than we are. I’m sure they could control all the nurture, but keeping a genetic code 100% would be near impossible.

[@megalopath]

So I guess that means if I were cloned my clone's eyes couldn't turn red since that was caused by an illness as well, something my clone wouldn't likely experience. But I'd bet my clone would be thinner than me if he grew up on Kamino.

[@jacyjohnson8636]

Didn't the kamino cloners combine genes of different people into jangos gene template for different roles (I haven't finished the video at the time of comment)

[@rogermurph101]

Differences in skin tone can be attributed to where they are stationed, different suns and different exposure to said suns. Differences in hairlines could be attributed to stress, and personalities will vary depending their experiences. But, if you just look at their faces, they all look pretty much identical.

[@thorshammer7883]

How would Warhammer 40k Imperium navy fair in space combat against the Star Wars Expanded Universe versions of the CIS, GAR, New Republic, Old Republic, and Vitiate's Sith Empire's navy?

[@TheHacknor]

They would wipe the floor with Star Wars with only Vitiates empire proving a challenge assuming it's the whole Imperium

[@thorshammer7883]

@@TheHacknor I'm refering about space combat in a equal plain field how would the Star Wars Expanded Universe versions fair against the Imperium. How about fire power, speed, and durability how would the battle go and who would win? Since in the Expanded Universe the ships are alot more powerful.

[@callumunga5253]

+Thor's Hammer There's a fundamental problem with your question: Against effectively any enemy, if the entire Imperium focused on them, they are big enough to just bulldoze them. In 40K however, even the Tau are a problem, because if the Imperium directed enough assets to annihilate them, they would become overwhelmed by the other great powers. It's not that the Tau are strong enough to resist the Imperium, just that it would be too costly for the Imperium to destroy them, because of every other overpowered nation around. If hypothetical war happened in the 40K Galaxy, then the Empire would be harassed by the other powers there, and almost certainly destroyed. If this occurred in a different galaxy (such as the Star Wars one), the Imperium would completely roll over the Empire, due to there being no other pressing threat. --- Also, what on earth due you mean as 'a level playing field'? Constrain the Imperium ship choice so it matches the Empire's strongest warships? Force the Imperium to use a fraction of it's total numbers so the sides are of equal power?

[@thorshammer7883]

@@callumunga5253 That doesn't answer my question about space combat, firepower, or durability at all.

[@callumunga5253]

+Thor's Hammer Your question is poorly formatted. Your initial question seems to be "what happens if the Imperium were to face the Empire". +GreenManAiming correctly surmised that if the Empire faced the entire Imperium, they would be utterly annihilated, as the Imperium Fleets vastly outnumber those of the Empire, and their favorite strategy is to just grind threats to dust. You were apparently unsatisfied with that answer, but then rephrased your question in a still ambiguous manner. I attempted to answer that if the Empire were to face the Imperium in the Star Wars Galaxy, it would be worse for them due to the lack of pressure on the Imperium. I then asked you to clarify what 'a level playing field is'. My first interpretation was that it was fighting the Imperium in the Star Wars Galaxy, but based on your recent response this interpretation was wrong. Alternatives are as I listed before: "Constrain the Imperium ship choice so it matches the Empire's strongest warships? Force the Imperium to use a fraction of it's total numbers so the sides are of equal power?" -- You seem hung up on the individual power of warships, rather than the collective power of each navy. But fine. In my next comment I will explore this question. One moment.

[@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am]

Well, that genetic diversity helps greatly when dealing with bioweapons and the other types of disease. With different immune systems, there's less of a chance that a pathogen that is able to kill one clone, will be able to kill all of them.

[@zorkwhouse8125]

I think the appearance of small mutations that alter their appearance could be expected with the numbers involved here. So that would likely account for a lot -and as someone noted below that identical twins can appear somewhat different depending on environmental conditions etc. Interesting topic for this video - thanks.

[@lordatom905]

#AskEck May I ask a question do you think this may :maybe this is how new canon work The Empire continues for a year til the battle of Jakku were sprinted into sub factions some of them form the Imperial remanent others became warlords and other became the first order

[@scenicohio2868]

Can you talk about general krell and his whole deal, always thought he was interesting

[@ModernNormality]

#AskEck Do you think there should be a cartoon or movie(s) portraying the Old Republic era and do you think you’d enjoy it?

[@clone9660]

I always viewed it as the Kaminoins started creating clones as a 1:1 type of cloning. But as they went on with their order, they modified their methods in a trial and error in order to improve their batches. They might have taken small samples from other humans in order to enhance their physical strength or emotional states to make them less aggressive and more obedient. As a result, we got clones with different eyes or hair colors.

[@michaelramon2411]

I have heard it claimed that a lot of human physical comes from neonatal (in-utero) conditions, and so a clone of someone would actually look a bit different than them (though several clones made through the same process might look identical to each other). Twins, obviously, have the same neonatal conditions. I can't say at all if this is the case, but it is an interesting thought.

[@wjb-wt6sc]

Ooooooh oh you should do a comparison of the best/worst Clone/Jedi relationships. For a more comprehensive video you could dip into the Legends multimedia project.

[@Morgomir09]

DNA does not code for the location of each capillary and each person even with identical DNA can produce a different result

[@sirarnie9837]

Something called "genetic plasticity" could be at play as well. This could explain the variations.

[@fearthepiggaming2998]

It's also quite possible that due to them stretching the fett genome so thin they might have had to fill in some sequence gaps with other DNA Jurassic park style or maybe they just used fett's genetics as the base in randomized his genes

[@keycloc253]

So glad I rewatched as well. New season should exceed expectations

[@matteocabral1647]

That outro is beautiful

[@daltonflores72]

Can you cover the Jedi crash space battle. I’m still wondering how 3magnificent friggets beat 2 venators. When we have seen 1 venator year through 4 magnificent friggets.

[@firesabreRSA]

If I remember correctly, in one episode, in the first season of the clone wars where Yoda said that the force distinguish the clones with differently and not the same.

[@dragonsword7370]

I'm guessing the hair styling[not color] is from teasing and training the hair a certain way. Colors easy but shape and direction of growth may also be part of they're hair care products available.

[@Flufferz626]

This happens actually irl. Cats are a very good example. Simple genetics cover fur color, but they never exhibit the same pattern when cloned (speaking about tabby, most common coloration). Sometimes they come out completely different, like a calico cloned from an orange tabby.

[@Persona6Blue]

I can imagine a clone putting in contacts to look different

[@Mysikrysa]

Or, to lose his eyes and get artificial ones with different color.

[@darrenvoong9013]

3:55 the name is Fives. FiveS

[@beastwarsFTW]

I wouldn't be surprised if they had gentic material from other doners to increase the versatility in alternate rolls. Jango was an ace but they might have used other DNA to stuff like making them more compliant.

[@Sh0cKwavE__]

Differences in how people with the same DNA look or act can also be caused by the ways in which DNA is expressed, this can be altered by the ways that DNA is being packed or by of course hormones and environmental changes, as mentioned in the video.

[@josephmchugh4040]

I think the clone army would have been more effective if they had used a variety of different templates. Sure, having all the clones come from the same guy means you save on armor and uniforms because they are all the same size, but you could do that by cloning multiple different individuals with similar measurements. You'd also lessen the risk of losing all your soldiers to a bio weapon that targets one specific DNA group or if one of your template individuals dies/leaves you still have others to fill in the ranks.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Clones are already expensive in creating hundreds of mouths to feed and nurture. Yeah, the growth rate is advanced. But enlisted men even in slight variances in armor sizes are waaayyyy cheaper. There families feed and educate them up until the time they are useful for true military training and will often again take over if they are sick, injured, or just get old. Not so with a clone army where the government bares full cost in all these things. So with a clone army you are already invested just for the quality of genetic solider you can get. So yeah, you'd think they'd have more then one base template. But they also did not plan for Jango Fett to die at all and find themselves without the template to start fresh with again.

[@Mysikrysa]

It might be connected to the use of these "inhibitor" chips for Order 66. The clones have basically the same brain structure. I say basically because even identical twins who are natural clones are never 100% identical. But the differences should be minimal compared to non-clones who can have very differently "wired" brains. If you have many individuals with differently "wired" brains, the chances these chips will work in all of them are low. In clones, the chances are much higher. And the main goal was to turn clones against the Jedis and purge them, which was probably worth the risk of the potential bio-weapon you mentioned.

[@elijahfrazier445]

I’m studying biology right now, I’m a 3rd year student in an “I-don’t-know-how-long” year program. I’ve taken three classes that teach, or rely heavily on the subject matter of classical post-mendellian genetics. Good god, why can I not start a new paragraph on the mobile version. Anyways, I believe you are correct in the assumption that the clones display some behavioral and appearance differences due to their DNA being expressed differently as a result of growing up in a variety of environments different than Jango Fett’s environment. However, I’ve come to think that Fett being the progenitor of the clones makes people think they are closer to him than they really might be. Often in the clone wars, they refer to Fett’s DNA as being a template for the clones. Template, to me, sounds like the general structure of an average clone’s DNA, but not the final genotype. Much like the order-66-inhibitor-chip-thing, some sequences were added to the original Fett template to suit the kaminoans needs. Other genes that effect behavior and appearance could have been modified or swapped. As for Fett’s DNA being “stretched,” I figure that means whatever method of cloning the Kaminoans were using, required living samples of Fett’s original DNA, which happened to be decaying (I don’t actually know how quickly DNA decays, but I do know it does that). Since the clones have altered DNA, they probably aren’t a good source for making more clones, thus pushing the kaminoans to allowing for more non-Fett DNA being used in the template to fill in decayed gaps. non-Fett DNA that could have led to more appearance differences.

[@skittles536]

Can you do a video on the citadel ark? It’s my favourite set of episodes

[@neonblack789.]

But like weren't there changes made to the genetic cloning later in the clone wars were they actually added different elements or even made clones of existing clones (like arc troopers or commandos) I could be wrong I just remember that being mentioned somewhere

[@dakotaolivier3609]

Hardcase and 99 were the bravest clones

[@rossdrummond7154]

What about cost? I would image it would be more expensive to make a genetically perfect clone opposed to a clone with a very slight variation. Visual appearance would be a acceptable defect in the first batchs, and would late be embraced as a benefit.

[@BirthquakeRecords]

I had friends who were identical twins back in the day, and you could tell who they were immediately (from their face alone). Identical twins aren’t too dissimilar from clones.

[@sorcikator993]

As soon as you create a perfect clone of yourself with sentience, the second it start to live on its own and get its own experience, it became its own person and not you anymore. The same could be said on genetic with such an extreme number of individual clones; for example, it's not that rare for a person to have their hair color or eyes color change from childhood to adulthood. I don,t remember the exacts terms, but I know that the genes that settle on your definitive physical features like colors are not completely set when you are born. This could explain it. We also have to remember that the clones aren't perfect copies of Jango Fett; they have been altered, first to make them age faster, and second to make them more docile, to implant the famous biochips and I assume there's been a few others manipulations. As much genius geneticist the Kaminoans are, on such a scale again, they are going to make mistakes, touch something in the genes that they weren't supposed, things, details, like that. Finally, there's the fact of different environments, like you mentioned. We know for a fact that clones are sensible to the same illness as regular humans, like this clone, I don,t remember his name, who got a brain tumor who prematurly activated his biochip. Knowing that, who knows to what kind of different atmospheres, micro-organisms and other on alien worlds, and what it would do to them?

[@theinnerhollow3006]

Can you go into greater depth about the Father, Daughter, and the Son from near the end of season 3. I'm not sure if they're supposed to be incarnations of the force or something like that

[@dradenyyg4805]

Question for next time! Why did the Separatists leave the energy field around Iego? ( Season 1 Episode 18: Mystery of the Thousand Moons)