The CIS Droids which could've WON the CLONE WARS! -- Star Wars Lore

[@EckhartsLadder]

Back to streaming some Empire at War tonight! Come by to the second channel and say hi! kzbin.info

[@josephn8325]

#askeck The Galactic Empire from Star Wars is invaded by the Great Gamilas empire from Space Battleship Yamato. Do the imperials hold off the assault of these blue skinned invaders or do the Gamilas emerge victorious? And which side would the Rebel Alliance join? Even if you don’t do this scenario could you please do something with “Space Battleship Yamato?” Attempt number 13

[@bb-61ussiowa75]

#askeck If the empire invaded earth what would an Iowas main guns with nuclear shells do to a ISD

[@josephn8325]

@Sprint 600 Well the ISD would have to be at an extremely low altitude for the Iowa to score a hit with its main guns. Depending on the yield of the shells ane the calcs you use for the ISD’s shields a full broadside could do anything from minor damage to causing a cataclysmic reaction that brings the imperial ship down in amazing fashion while “Thunderstruck” blasts in the background.

[@bb-61ussiowa75]

@@josephn8325 lol, It would need to be pretty low, but when watching rouge one in some cases ISDs are fine with getting quite low

[@blackpowderkun]

Can you make a video regarding the slavery implications of the Kaminoan clones, I.E they have a reconizable darts.

[@ESFNinja]

It’s a shame the Clone Wars was all a big ass chess game. The CIS and their droid army would be quite the formidable force without the interference.

[@robertnelson9599]

In Legends Palpatine had to leak the location of the Cortosis Droid factory, because Palps believed the CIS could have won the war with them.

[@jknetwork6211]

WatchYourLanguage Yep and smarter programming for the battle droids cause they are so laughable dumb that if it weren’t for how formidable they are they would be more useless then the stormtroopers from Star Wars Rebels.

[@Azrael_Equinox]

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[@TheNukaColaMan10]

WatchYourLanguage Not so much a chess game as one giant fucking game of Monopoly with the Banker tipping things in his own favor

[@spynix0718]

It being a chess game is very interesting concept, especially because both players were Palpatine.

[@neofulcrum5013]

Grievous: Some you may not return. Actually...NONE of you will return. But don’t let that stand in your way. Is that clear? Something about Grievous giving a speech to the demolition droids knowing they’re going on a suicide mission is kind of amusing and dark.

[@akumaking1]

*Robotic gurgling*

[@AbyssAlphaLive]

Cyber Flame I was thinking about that quote 😂

[@arkhamsquire4503]

Reminded me of Batman Returns.

[@Fireheart1945]

Rats, someone got to this first. Oh well, couldn't help thinking of this quote too.

[@arbington]

It’s also kind of sad, I think it’s a brief rare moment we see the last pieces of the general he used to be, before he was turned into Grievous.

[@anonymouspotato1082]

Let’s be honest, there was at least 20 different ways the separatists could have won if it wasn’t for Palpatine.

[@emelgiefro]

Imagine wining a war by putting a bomb inside a trash bin and driving it close enough to palpatine

[@LomasneyAaron]

Usze 'Taham i think you mean the EntA.I.er threshold

[@anexplosivealtaccount1217]

Dooku could have kept the Death Star plans and told palpatine that the files were accidentally deleted

[@anexplosivealtaccount1217]

Usze 'Taham May I?

[@Salty_Dog1]

Ryan Griffin the Separatists may not have been a thing without Palpatine

[@TheMugHoarder]

I think partially the reason why an attempt like that was never attempted again was for two reasons. 1. The attack was meant to stir a ruckus in the senate during a specific talk for peace. Using them too often would eventually undermine the clones and by extension Palpatine. If it was an actual war with no Sith meddling then heck yeah they would use them more. 2. It was a one-trick-pony. After what happened you could assume that all clone guards were required to change up their tactics or detection. You got your pot shot in. But you could never do it again successfully.

[@lenkagamine4145]

but making everyone terrified of droids would cripple the economy of many planets and lead to civil unrest too, so in a way making use of the tactic woudl be effective in another sense; all the extra tactics and detection required to counter such a strategy would cost the republic greatly.

[@JohnDoe-xx8yw]

To elaborate on the second point, I feel all Republic shipments of droids, especially from manufacturers affiliated in any way with the CIS, would be thoroughly, meticulously inspected to insure an event like that not happening again

[@MuffinYoBusiness]

It would have been more beneficial to had multiple of these droids detonate in several key systems simultaneously. And attack like that could have crippled the Republic and forced them into a surrender. However I do agree that if this tactic was used throughout the war it would very quickly become ineffective.

[@lenkagamine4145]

@Commander Kyro well only republic worlds are going to be terrified of droids unless your attacking your own settlements. I mean... making your enemy scared of your military because your using your military being a bad thing is weird to me. By that logic, wouldnt they just not attack any worlds with droids since it would "rally more support othe republic"?

[@nicholasmccarthy8917]

price could be a factor

[@datmanking4080]

I always thought this was just a kids show, until my friend convinced me to watch it. It's surprisingly so good and im loving how much it uses star wars lore to it's advantage! Just amazing

[@Fi_Sci_]

Datman King in the season 3 Arc when Ahsoka was Kidnapped and put into a Survival scenario, their was an Easter egg I had completely missed years prior. In the final episode of that Arc when Ahsoka is facing off with the Trandoshan leader, I saw a Mandolorian helmet from the Era of the Old Republic. It was such a cool Easter egg I had never seen before and led me to believe that Trandoshans sport hunting was something that’s been around for thousands of years, it’s great what you can notice in a show even this many years later. And I’m grateful it’s getting it’s proper conclusion this month.

[@datmanking4080]

@@Fi_Sci_ I remember noticing that too! Right behind the throne. I had to pause it and just theorise about how it could've ended up there. So many little details, I love the show so much

[@Fi_Sci_]

Lolt West what Star Wars Rebels lacked was the Amazing Animation, Even Season 1 and 2 of Clone wars had better art style and Animation. But it’s all mostly due to the fact that unlike Clone Wars, George Lucas didn’t fund the animation, which is why it looks so off in comparison.

[@Fi_Sci_]

Datman King yeah and in the episode “Senate murders,” you can briefly see a holo image of a Phase 2 Clone trooper design but with the Fin still attached to the design. I agree, The Little details are always amazing and when you think something from previous seasons will get forgotten, Characters sometimes mention past events, not only that but we see weapons such as The Defoliator Return in the Massacre of the Nightsisters. I love Clone wars 😂

[@Fi_Sci_]

Lolt West what else would you say was lacking apart from the animation quality.

[@jacc_3692]

I, personally, would love to see you cover the umbara ark.

[@liemsolow3697]

This. Please cover Krell

[@robertnelson9599]

Yes, I loved this arc.

[@bthsr7113]

Those Umbarans had some amazingly nasty gear.

[@EckhartsLadder]

Planned!

[@j.r.7339]

Lol i just commented that!

[@darthsidious149]

Orchestrating the Clone Wars was my side job.

[@pk2_637]

No, that was Palpatines job

[@ratbat1072]

I thought you were the senate

[@darthsidious149]

Ratbat 1986 that’s part of the side job. My main job is working at KFC.

[@theendersmirk5851]

Yeah, I thought you ran that bar Loki and Voledemort go to constantly.

[@darthsidious149]

Mitchel Stuffers I’m offended I’m not that fat 😡 I can fit.

[@tombomb1168]

I always saw it has there was essentially an original “order” for a certain number of clones. They mention in the movie how not all of them are ready so the Kaminoans are probably just focusing on the growth of the ones they already made. With the war looking like it will never end and the extremely high casualty rate for the clones the purchasing of more clones could be seen as a sort of plan for the future. With more clones being prepared the Republic then doesn’t have to worry as much about conserving troops. Also I’m pretty sure in that episode mentioned at the end they’re at a hospital and it’s said that the clones are in bacta tanks.

[@drizzt7dourden7]

a) indeed those were hospitalised clones. b) we actually SEE the baby clones in the movie which means they are still producing at that point. c) i assumed "buy new clones" is the simple way of saying "continue the funding of the kaminoan cloning effords and get the next batch ready and equiped"

[@Eli-akad]

Hotaru For ur 3rd point there’s no need for assumptions, that’s exactly what it was

[@Ashguy733]

Well they did experiment with different droids. "The Cestus Deception" novel talks about this with Obi Wan and Kit Fisto trying to halt the building of these Jedi Killer droids that were pretty effective against Jedi, along with the combat droids used in the Battle of Jabiim. Also I do wonder if the Republic was unaware of other cloners like Arkanian Micro? Or did the Kaminoans have a contract with the Republic that had a clause that didn't allow for them to use the Fett template elsewhere, even though in Republic Commando its revealed they start using Spaartii Clones produced by Arkanian Micro or Palps did at least.

[@Julian-pw5mv]

In legends they did use other clones as you said, but in canon we dont really know if there are other cloners anywhere.

[@thelonelyrogue3727]

A wide-scale attack like the one you mentioned would be exponentially more difficult and risky than the infiltration we see used in the show. They're much more likely to be discovered, and they might not have any way to report their discovery to the CIS, so they could be disabled. Ideally, you would never directly attack with your droid spies, because that will raise suspicions towards all droids. Instead, they should be used to gather information or subtly sabotage key systems during battles, giving a much more long-term benefit to the CIS. It would probably severely damage the reputation of whichever corporation designed them, though, which is probably why they weren't used like that.

[@ReddwarfIV]

"Ideally, you would never directly attack with your droid spies, because that will raise suspicions towards all droids" I think you underestimate just how crippling paranoia of droids would be.

[@aliastheabnormal]

The CIS did have droid spies in Legends. And they did such a good job at it that they lasted until the end of the war without being discovered. Dying alongside the battle droids when Vader shut down the master control switch on Mustafar.

[@shorewall]

You could have droid spies, and then use their intel to orchestrate independent attacks, without putting your spy assets in harm's way.

[@thelonelyrogue3727]

@@ReddwarfIV which is exactly why that clone trooper let those cleaning droids past him, huh?

[@ReddwarfIV]

@@thelonelyrogue3727 Sure, the economy won't collapse just because you don't let cleaning droids into powerplants. But they don't have to be cleaning droids. They could be anything. That's the point.

[@CaptainM792]

If the separatist droid army and leaders wasn’t shut down and killed by Lord Vader. The Jedi might side with the separatists and lead the droid army into battle against the imperial clone army of the newly established Galactic Empire.

[@BridgeBoii]

Great idea

[@AlaskanBallistics]

They couldn't have won the clone wars because palpatine was still manipulating everything

[@thelonelyrogue3727]

Dooku could have made him the first target. Not even a Sith could survive a point-blank explosion in the Senate building.

[@neofulcrum5013]

Sidious would still be the victor no matter which prevailed

[@thelonelyrogue3727]

@@neofulcrum5013 unless, you know, he was dead?

[@neofulcrum5013]

The Lonely Rogue easier said than done

[@thelonelyrogue3727]

@@neofulcrum5013 see above comment about space-wizards and bombs.

[@JekPorkbricks]

5:27 That shot was in S02E15 but it was a callback to S01E03, they are injured clones in bacta tanks. I don't think they know how to grow adult clones. I also think that Palpatine meddled with the CIS tactics, so that they would only use this type of droid for one specific attack instead of multiple ones simultaneously as you suggest: by only attacking the generator, the war could continue, without any loss to the existing Republic army. This way, Palpatine can grow the Republic army even further until he'll form the Empire.

[@filmaru8556]

Maybe do "How the Malevolence could have survived Anakin's fleet"

[@robertnelson9599]

Simple, throw some sand on the hull.

[@filmaru8556]

@@robertnelson9599 lol

[@filmaru8556]

@@robertnelson9599 I meant like tactics. Like his usual videos

[@josephn8325]

Simple, don’t have it sortie alone and instead have it covered by multiple providence class carriers / dreadnoughts. Also install additional anti-aircraft lasers near the Ion cannon to fend off the Y-wings.

[@filmaru8556]

@@josephn8325 True but they didn't really have that many providence class during the first year

[@MuffinYoBusiness]

I highly recommend watching clone wars in chronological order, it’s so satisfying when you actually see the story continuously progress rather than it being several different stories throughout each season (until later seasons ofc)

[@1111yourself]

Your scarring me Eck, I just watched this episode yesterday cuz I'm rewatching it too :D and you keep the videos coming just after I watch the episodes.

[@matthewfuller3826]

Welcome back Eck, good to see your feeling better 😁

[@The7guys]

Be sure to cover the Umbara arc! That and the Mandalore arcs are some of the best parts of this show.

[@jonseon5952]

This is creepy because today at work I was just thinking about how these droids should have been on the battlefield.

[@serendal]

Best droid ever, every time I speak about droids or clone wars I speak of them at a moment.

[@lputnameherel]

Loving all the clone wars content!

[@edwardbryan9501]

Not only was these droids dangerous, so was the engineer. He had guts using a small blaster pistol against heavily armed droids.

[@2TheDon2]

The Clone Wars is my favorite so happy you did this. Honestly great way to end off my night right before bed thanks Eks!

[@starwarsmaster]

5:38 that was the medical station. Those clones were healing from wartime injury.

[@gaatjeniksaan336]

one of the reasons why I love The Clone Wars is it's humor aswell. When these Sweeper Droids were addressed for their mission by General Grievous he was like ''This mission is of high importance for the war, some of you might not return...... in fact, none of you will return''. As he says this to droids programmed for a suicide mission.

[@lecherousfish]

I always loved how the CIS was always pulling out cool new toys (new masterfully crafted war machines) and the Republic was like yes, they have ships and vehicles that can easily take out ours, lets use them some more. (Meaning their normal ships and tanks).

[@LordDoom10]

A mass attack with these drones runs the risk of exposure. It takes time to move through the galaxy, time in which something could happen to one of the droids. An accident happens, routine maintenance check ups, someone notices it isn't as effective as it should be, or a malfunction happening. The longer it takes and the more you use, the higher the chance of discovery becomes.

[@emperorpalpatine66]

The clones he thought were being grown as adults were actually recovering from injuries

[@barrettragins3659]

#askeck Why do the laat gunships have maned bubble turrets in the movies but in the shows the laat gunships have no bubble turrets (Not including the second battle of genosios)

[@Jfk2Mr]

Possibly loss of performance (compared to LAAT without those turrets) compared to effectiveness was deemed unacceptable, which could be compounded by combat losses among turret operators. Another reason can be difference between production rate of those turrets compared to rest of gunship, so to prevent delays, LAATs were shipped without them

[@barrettragins3659]

Kuba Król thanks but the last bit doesn’t make sense if the laat doesn’t come with bubble turrets, why do the door open differently on the ones without the turrets Thanks for the answer though (Sorry if that sounded rude)

[@Mega-Brick]

Different models for different purposes. Some gunships that are meant to be used in space lack both bubble turrets and have doors that seal the bay. There are even some gunships that have spotlights mounted in place of bubble turrets.

[@barrettragins3659]

Rhas 'Churol thank you I believe the light can be put on and off

[@RainytheNB]

the gun pods are mainly seen defending the gunships against light fighters, which the Geonosians used on a large scale against the republic forces. On other planets sealed doors were more of a priority for most planetary deployments. Despite the high use of light fighters against gunships by the Umbarans, the spotlights were a higher priority for being able to see the landing zones and make sure the clones would have a safe deployment position on the ground. The gunships also two of the same pods mounted to the wings, so four wasn't as necessary for most deplyoments.

[@Fi_Sci_]

It always Seemed like the Clone wars was so close to concluding numerous times throughout the Series, but all it took was the destruction of a power grid to completely sabotage any chance of a peaceful resolution. That’s probably the best thing about the Clone wars TV show was how much you wanted the War to end, to prevent deaths on both sides, but you already know that Palpatine was steps ahead and that neither side was ever going to be allowed to win. Even Ezra Bridger from Star Wars Rebels had realized the point of the clone wars, and all from just a simulated battle, That the Only side that was allowed to win was the Empire.

[@lynchkid003]

Glad to hear your throat isn't giving you any more trouble. Looking forward to more videos

[@republiccommando6104]

And this is why I love the Clone Wars series. It has things that make it very interesting and how there are parts that can be tied to real world events and such.

[@timbaleno9269]

The idea of buying more clones, at least as I see it, is that once the current order runs out, they will not get more clones. Ordering more clones will just continue the production of more clones on Kamino after the current order runs out.

[@noneed4me2n7]

Ah legends and other extended universe stuff really adds interesting content in world building. There's so many "what ifs" an postulating on what we'd do differently if we were running things. I really wish you'd do more videos on "what if" scenarios especially some from the legacy era and old republic times.

[@shadowslayer205]

Order 66 but with cleaning droids.

[@MiddleAgedGuy73]

Totally rewatching The Clone Wars again too! Amazing show

[@KoalaTContent]

5:27 if I'm not mistaken, that is the medical station in the Malevolence arc, so obviously clones in bacta.

[@andrewbloom7694]

Palpatine didn't want the republic army destroyed that quickly, that's why. He wanted both sides to wear each other down

[@Ravenous1369]

This might be one of my all time favs of yours Eck, purely because it has reignited my interest in The Clone Wars series. I've been debating diving into it more deeply ever since it first came out, since back when it did I initially was annoyed that it existed (having enjoyed most of the 2003 series and been disappointed when it was canceled) then almost immediately deciding it seemed to childish when I briefly saw part of an episode that involved Jar-Jar. However after that I happened to catch most of the episode Rookies and realized just how wrong I was, then watched through the Malevolence saga and a handful of other compelling episodes before moving to a new town where I no longer had TV or Netflix access. Now that things are more settled, I've heard tons of praise for it and Rebels, I now have Disney+ and the incredibly intriguing episode you've just covered, I most Definitely am going to rectify my mistake many years ago! Thanks for the content I always appreciate seeing your vids and look forward to the next one :)

[@Ravenous1369]

Although I have to say at the same time, from a realistic strategic standpoint you are 100% right it's completely Ridiculous that the CIS didn't employ this Incredible weapon to its full potential! Crippling the Republic would've been a snap, not even just from the damage done but from the sheer Terror it would instill in the general public and absolute Panic attacks like that on Coruscant would've caused!

[@jacks8016]

Eckharts I interprepted 'buying' new clones as putting an order in for the growing of new ones to start.

[@---qt2cm]

Bad batch plz. They are going to appear in season 7, and some background knowledge on them would be great

[@missinglincoln]

I do not know what that poor, poor dog ever did to deserve it, but I always watch your videos to the end to see said dog get what's coming to it.

[@Eb1tz]

every ones talking about the war and no ones talking about that amazing outro

[@EvanFAF]

Hi EckhartsLadder! One possible explanation of the buying of new clones was that they were buying troops in advance of when the clones themselves were supposed to be bought. I believe that increased demand and advances in cloning/training meant that Clone troopers were being rushed out faster, say it took 9 years instead of 10. So because the clones were needed in advance, they were "bought" As for the droids, yeah it's too bad we didn't see more of them. The separatists had some other great sneak attack droids though, like the cloaking droids that invaded Ilum in the 2003 clone wars series.

[@IssaUserName]

Having a one time usage is what gives those droids their advantage. With time and usage they would be noticed in one way or another. The surprise is what made them so utterly lethal.

[@Thisismeisityou]

I think one of the craziest take-aways from this episode is that we find out that Padme's crazy hairdo in the senate is actually a hat

[@csehszlovakze]

"Why didn't they just use more droids like this in a coordinated effort?" _laughs in Starkiller Base_

[@Vidiocity92]

Glad to hear your voice back!

[@gre3ns801]

The first time I saw these droids pop was so terrifying and cool at the same time.

[@archmagemc3561]

They didn't use stuff like this because once they did it once, Palps told them to never do it again.

[@nickvinsable3798]

Two things: #1: special sensor suits & other detection equipment would’ve blown their cover; unfortunate that Palpatine was made aware of this plan, so he deliberately had Clone security deliberately muck up & such. #2: Anakin Skywalker already had dealt with a traitorous astromech that temporarily replaced R2 so…

[@Vernaux]

I'm re-watching the Clone Wars as well and would love to see you cover the D-Squad Arc, or more specifically, how a successful Separatist attack on the Republic Strategy Conference could have affected the war. If the CIS was always meant to lose the war, could such a victory have crippled the Republic enough for them to win? What if Anakin had been killed?

[@ArvexYT]

As for buying the new clones, maybe the Kaminoans made extras that are in stasis? Either way, those demolition droids were quite merciless. Definitely puts the standard battle droid to shame.

[@davidb3979]

I've wondered about those destroyer droids in this episode as well, I've always assumed it was linked into why the main CIS droids were always so foolish... was it that Palpatine didn't want the CIS to win and therefore they never did anything to actually win the war. After all they have the capacity to destroy the republic if they really wanted to. In this episode they needed to hit hard at the Senate itself to trick the Senators into voting to continue the war but most of the time they didn't want to do any real damaged to the Republic and Palpatine wanted it for himself and his Imperial Navy!

[@crestenor]

That outro gets me every time.

[@thomas.02]

Fear is a great motivator... oh how appropriate a quote in these infective times

[@sauntmn]

I can see that you and many others are watching the clone wars in preparation for season 7. I'm excited.

[@Jacob-qz9fo]

In Darth Plagues, Higo Damask used his connections with the intergalactic banking Clan to secure loans for an expansion in cloning facilities. Many years before the war. It's in the chapter when he's talking to the kaminoins about specific aspects of the cloning process. That's how they were able to produce so many.

[@JEFF_GOLD95]

I was thinking the same thing. They had so much more potential than just swaying votes against a bill.

[@Dark-tp5hu]

Just finished rewatching clone wars the other night!

[@adolfoSTNG44879]

I’m pretty sure the clones at the medical station were said to be clones so damaged in battle they had to reside in the bacta-tanks

[@spencerwillkie4997]

5:41 they already said that they were wounded clones in Bacta tanks

[@stuartmathews9121]

Even if I dislike the video (which I didn't), I always stay for the outro meme

[@patrickfiller5197]

Was surfing some stuff and Resonance came on. First thought was “Hey, that’s Eck’s outro” and yeah, don’t know why but felt the need to share

[@Bird_Dog00]

The problem with massive wide-spread attacks using theese droids is that coordination and logistics will require a relatively long build-up phase. You will not be able to insert all the droids everywhere you want to strike at the same day. So those droids allready inserted will have to stay under cover and perform their cover tasks for a while. That increases the risk of something going wrong. Remember: Those droids only stay undiscoverd as long as no-one looks at them too closely. All it takes is one curious mechanic wanting to take a look at that new cleaning droid, or a random accident damaging one of them and the secret plan is blown wide open.

[@drexrasmussen8574]

Umbara Arc👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼phenomenal stuff. You should cover that battle more in depth.

[@wiktorgierlach7628]

Everybody gangsta, till the roomba's start blasting.

[@stevebeaulieu2763]

i cant wait to see you play fall of the republic mod!!!

[@pulsar1-1]

Just finished watching season 6, super hyped for season 7!

[@deleted5338]

Great point. You’d think the separatists would copy, destroy, and take the place of their enemies drone force for an unimaginable broad coordinated attack.

[@Bingbongbag]

I absolutely love the CIS. My favourite faction of all and it’s sad that they were designed to fail and were used as a pawn for palpatine.

[@MistahFox]

Everybody gangster till da vacuum cleaner *opens fire*

[@rayparker8802]

If I’m right, in legends it confirmed that the kaminos had a full second army waiting in what was essentially crying/bacta tanks to ensure that they were battle ready for the republic in case more troops were meeded

[@cwipproductions2015]

One of my favorite episodes of the clone wars

[@heresbutler]

Meanwhile in battlefront me and the boys playing as clones be spamming emotes and dying, great investment

[@beanlord4347]

Cover all of it. Down to the very last rivet of every last vehicle.

[@jjrneptune]

Because when fives found out that the order 66 chips were put in at an early stage of development, that leads me to assume that at the very least even if they grow them to adulthood, they still start off young

[@kingzilla9859]

Keep up the epic content dude 😃👍🏻. Galaxy Battle- THE SONTARANS VS THE KLINGONS ( Dr Who vs Star Trek ). Ship Battle- THE BC-304 DAEDALUS CLASS BATTLECRUISER VS THE USS KELVIN NCC-0514 ( Stargate vs Star Trek ). Respect Eck 😃👍🏻.

[@FQP-7024]

Imagine if he had a link to the entire Clone Wars series that would make me cry of happiness

[@tomvandijk9706]

Because of you, I’m now playing fall of the republic a little too much

[@p.dillen1907]

If you read the Republic Commando novels, Palpatine was also growing clones on Centax II. Grew them as full adults in less than a year and they were imprinted with flash training while grown. Less effective than the Kamino clones but far less expensive and easier to produce.

[@k.b.6331]

Based on Episode two and Karen Travis novels the Kaminoisns had clone production running so that they supply roughly 100k clones to reinforce the first units every few months. Basically just enough to keep the force close to full strength but never enough to overwhelm the CIS. Palpatine's crafted stalemate.

[@anthonystaab1314]

*force waves* I’d like for you to go over the Citadel and how the planet was split in half and origins etc.

[@garg4531]

I agree with what one of the other comments says. They couldn’t have used the same tricks twice because they would’ve wised up to them, and they couldn’t do *too* much damage because of Palpatine But I think you’re right, if they really wanted to they could’ve done a large scale simultaneous attack to not only deal a massive blow to their infrastructure, but also sow terror from the sudden and unexpected attacks, leaving them in an extremely vulnerable stay for a massive invasion to finish them off

[@datmanking4080]

I know I've already asked this but in case you didn't see it... Why didn't anyone put tractor beams on the surface of planets to pull down attacking ships so they crash? In a way where the ship doesn't hit the tractor beams or base that's being defended

[@samspeed6271]

Great video Eck. The CIS could've done a lot with these tactics, not only in damage the droids caused, but also the psychological factor of not knowing if your pet MSE droid is about to explode and kill you. #AskEck Did the Republic ever consider trying to introduce a computer virus to the CIS droid programming? And would this have worked, or did droids come with Norton, AVG or McAfee installed by default? And did the CIS ever consider trying the same trick on the Republic, enter a virus into a Republic Venator's flight computer system?

[@aldenrose9442]

I would love to see a video on what happens to all the CIS ships after the war,like the Fortessa

[@micheal4007]

mouse droid with a thermo nuclear bomb on the inside, boom, that's your ultimate espionage droid for the GCW

[@luketenbarge6776]

I think the idea of buying more clones is that the current armies were still capable in their own right but the Kaminoan facilities either A. Weren’t making new batches of clones, hence this new purchase would begin new production that would allow the current armies to be supplemented as they were continually shrinking due to battles Or B. The facilities were only producing enough clones to keep maintain the armies and such a purchase would allow the republic to grow the army in the future

[@Guardias]

Funny you should mention a massive attack with camouflaged droid saboteurs as that happened in one of the books. The minion of a self styled Sith Lord who left Luke's school did exactly that to the Senate and other locations. If I recall rightly he also sabotaged the new line of X-Wings the Republic had purchased.

[@samschellhase8831]

#AskEck why do medical droids not appear to have more soft material on their figures? When Koth rests on one at 4:17 (in the Saleucami battle breakdown video0, I can’t imagine resting up against a hard, metal robot would be very comfortable, especially after being tortured. Why were these fitted with some sort of padding, or even cloth at the more sensitive parts, like the arms, shoulders, maybe even the palms? I understand the fingers need to be dexterous and mechanically precise, but the arms? The shoulders? Never made any sense to me

[@MajorMuffins13]

I’d imagine that the Kaminoans made more clones, and they were fully grown and ready to go but yet to be purchased by the Republic so placed in Bacta tanks (or something like them), in suspended amination, until they were brought. When the Republic brought more, they were simply reainmated, caught up to speed and assigned to units in the GAR.

[@getajobmate1281]

Palpatine: "There were some very good Heroes on Both Sides"

[@razvandobos9759]

We need these in Battlefront 2 and have these fight the Empire.

[@nyxcooper5023]

I think the reason that the Republic was able to purchase more clones, is because the Kaminoans knew ahead of time that the original wouldn't be enough. They're a business, and they know that they control the only supply to a captive consumer. They were growing those clones the whole time in preparation for exactly this purpose. Plus palpatine definitely wanted this to happen anyway. He needed a very good reason to deregulate the banks for easy take over later, and it helped outnumber the Jedi even more, spreading them further as there were many new divisions to manage. All in all, it was planned from the start, so these clones didn't come out of nowhere

[@robertnelson9599]

I remember how cool these things were.

[@thorondor1593]

I'm still stuck at the point where Ashoka is a whiny little kid...

[@mmopronick7443]

Whiny? I think you mean snarky/arrogant. Power through, it's worth it in the end.

[@therandomnpc1655]

_"Transformers!"_ _"More than meets the eye!"_

[@clefsan]

so... Decepticons 2.0 then, huh? :D

[@therandomnpc1655]

@@clefsan yup

[@OvineAviation]

I feel like talking about anything that could have changed the outcome of the clone wars is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Death Star. In the end, it was all one big elaborate ruse, with a planned outcome.