Why Face Reveals Don’t Work If You’re "Ugly" (Dream)

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We’re looking at why Dream’s face reveal was basically doomed for the beginning. Last year in October 2022 the Minecraft streamer Clay revealed his face to his audience - only to have the internet and Twitter turn on him. The expectations from his fans to look like a gamer version of timothee chalamet weren’t met and last week he decided to become a faceless creator again by putting the mask back on. Could it have been the parasocial relationships he fostered within his community that led to this reaction? Was it a series of unfortunate events throughout his career that caused this overreaction of an average looking guy finally showing his face? This whole situation says a lot about our society and the effects of pretty privilege. Social media has messed up our expectations of what normal human features look like. Why Face Reveals Don’t Work if You’re Ugly #edvasian

[@toast4736]

Not a dream fan. But he isn't ugly. His "fanbase" built up this unrealistic fantasy, where dream looks likesome anime dude. And So, when he made the face reveal, it went crashing down in flames. I feel bad for him, since it looked like he built up alot of courage to do it, and based on his body language/angle he was sitting at, made it seem like he was uncomfortable. Doesn't deserve the hate and bullying he's getting. Edit: apparently, dream has allegations against him. I had no clue about this as i don't follow up on news about him. I apologise if i have offended anyone with my comment.

[@MeltingRougeSoul13]

I mean, he did have popular people react to his face and have them overeact before the public face reveal, getting everyone's hopes up

[@zeroedits7582]

Imo he is ugly af, I never really liked Minecraft KZbinr or disliked them.

[@pisospicados3337]

Yeah I think that's the worse thing, I mean if he was actually unattractive still would be mean, but he is actually quite cute, like wtf

[@yellow8980]

Right? He is not even ugly, but please consider I know nothing about this guy until that face reveal. He is just a regular dude

[@aejones233]

yes!! he's not even ugly. if i had some crazy face reveal stunt and people reacted like they did to him, i don't know how i would've handled it

[@CaraMarie13]

It's wild. He's not even ugly. He looks like a normal human. He needs to get a comment moderator and never look at those things himself

[@Dovestone.]

I honestly think people are just angry that the mystery of their fantasies about what he might look like have been taken away

[@puppppppies]

I would even say he's fairly attractive! Just in a guy next door way and not a supermodel way

[@angelashinner]

@@Dovestone.I mean he isn’t to be blamed for people’s fantasies.

[@metoo3342]

He's lower than average

[@Jillberto]

​@@metoo3342 would love to see your face dude

[@Kitt-Sage]

Dream is not ugly, he has questionable character imo, but he's not ugly. All the people who attacked him are chronically online mostly likely children who built up this cartoonish fantasy of him.

[@absolutelynotellen]

I guess his horrible personality/character is the one that made him uglier than he is lmao? I have to admit that Dream really isn't ugly but eh...

[@branestron9521]

Why do you care so much. You seem just as much chronically online as the people you are criticising

[@entirelybonkers8832]

@@branestron9521 bestie are you a dream stan or just causing drama for no reason

[@creepersonspeed5490]

​@@branestron9521because being horrible shouldn't be normalised

[@branestron9521]

@entirelybonkers8832 no i am not in fact i think he is boring. I was just calling out the hypocrisy

[@putdogdirectlyonbed9268]

he isnt hideous, but the way he got multiple celebs to react to his face made it seem like he was the most beautiful man ever 😭 it did NOT help that his frankly toxic fanbase kept drawing him as a pretty anime boy and all of that set him up so bad... it wasnt like he had a good reputation before this, his face reveal was genuinely the worse move because he had it GOOD by hiding his face and letting his fans turn him into a bishounen anime boy! I honestly cant say i feel bad for the man, i just genuinely cant fathom how he thought this would end up. and he keeps promoting that song which was funny ngl

[@aleahbun4892]

exactly oh my god. like, i feel kind of bad that he's gotten so much hate for his appearance but wtf did he expect? especially with how much he hyped it up, he was literally just asking to be bullied to no end lmfao. but also the way he did it meant he made an absolute shit ton of money from it which is honestly the main reason i think he went about it the way he did. like, he couldve just made a chill instagram post with a selfie and avoided 90% of the hate he got, or he could do it in the most cringe way possible and get absolutely ripped to shreds while making fucking bank.

[@silverbells346]

I’m so glad you said this. Honestly, there was no way he WASN’T gonna be bullied on some level given how irresponsible he was with keeping his audience in check and building up as much hype as he did. Of course it was gonna end badly. Kinda brought it upon himself in a way, though i don’t think he deserved all the hate he got

[@vinnie-chan]

People shouldn't be shamed because of their faces. That's it. You're a fool, for trying to shift responsibility on Dream. This 'hype' relevant, since it was the biggest event in his career and in his community. Even if he was ugly for real, it would've been relevant and it wouldn't be his fault.

[@sunnyandthechlo]

Yeah he built it up and it was cringe in general but I don’t think anyone is ASKING to be bullied like you said. (The replies to your comment, not you specifically.) It can crush a person’s mental health for years on end.

[@rairinirin]

should've just debuted as a v tuber honestly

[@mana-yo8sw]

Dream is not ugly. People just need to touch grass ngl.

[@sipsmoretea2241]

This^

[@shovelmetimbers]

Completely average looking.

[@andrea.9900]

me when I lie

[@kai_fatallysapphic]

he's the most Minecraft creator looking Minecraft creator, idk why people expected him to look like an anime character. I barely even know about dream, I heard of his face reveal through a Splatoon 3 plaza post saying "dream's face is mid" lmao

[@cookiemonster8184]

He is ugly though…. it’s okay to tell the truth

[@MelaninCosplay]

For me....with Dream, there's two reasons his face reveal didn't do well. (1) Because fans were imagining him like a hot anime/manga lead character. They even drew fan art with him and what they thought he looked like and wrote fanfiction about him. They do the same thing for Corpse. Which is why he keeps his face hidden bc what he looks like shouldn't matter. And when Dream did the face reveal and didn't look like an Anime/manga male lead, they attacked him. (2) Someone saw a picture of him way before the reveal and he was overweight and considered not attractive. He lied and said it wasn't him (even though you can tell it was him and allegedlya friend of a friend of Dream confirmed the picture was him), lost a crap ton of weight, and decided to do the face reveal so that people would stop mocking him for that picture. But then, he got mocked anyway when he did the face reveal for looking like what? A normal ass guy. I mean it's sad. He got so much attention from his fans' imagination of him and now he wants to go back to the mask because before all of this, when he had the mask, he had ATTENTION. I hate that he got bullied for not looking like what people thought he looked like. This also could be a PR Stunt too. Who knows?

[@hypnoteapot]

Ngl, you have to be a special kind of stupid to expect someone to look like an anime character....

[@strangeaelurus]

Yeah, I think it would have been better if he said he wasn't gonna be up to people's expectations before the reveal

[@terri3715]

I don't think him hyping it up so much, especially getting his friends involved helped either. If he did just a random video with his face reveal instead of promoting it like he did I do think it would have went better.

[@TMlSenya]

(3) isn't he also like.. racist?

[@CrimsonDawn-ou4og]

​@@terri3715It would have ended up the same anyway. Even if he was super causal it would have blown up because suddenly faceless Dream has a face. His fans would have made it trending and still would've been disappointed

[@soobinism]

Faceless creators need to stay faceless, Corpse for example. His face reveal reaction would be 10000x worse. He built up his whole image around being heavily sexualized, no human face can live up to that kind of expectation.

[@sappho7278]

Kiwifarms doxxed and leaked pics of Corpse. He is literally average looking. His fangirls were in such denial that it was actually him and he's not a sexy anime boy irl they just didn't accept it lol.

[@EricaGav06]

@@sappho7278I would say below average looking honestly. But that’s just me. I wouldn’t wanna show my face either.

[@spiritsong4026]

Not hating on corpse I do like his voice and his humor when he played with pewds and jack in among us but I think he would be "below average" to some people since he did say that the reason why he has that low voice is because of medical condition. He said his profile pic is a drawing of him but a bit more "hot". I haven't seen his real face but if I go off of his profile then yeah he'll look average.

[@spiritsong4026]

​@@sappho7278wait is it actually him? Haven't seen the leak yet because I've seen too many videos saying "this is corpses actual face" and they look nothing like his profile pic. Too many of them have straight hair when corpse himself said he has curly hair.

[@nitabagels6969]

He didn't build it up. His fanbase did. Dude just has a crazy deep voice, that's it. He has a medical condition that makes it so and it's not his fault. And the whole attractive anime guy avatar thing,, man everyone has attractive looking human mascots. Like VTubers, biggest example I can think of The Corpse situation honestly makes me so angry because I was a huge fan of him and his music. He didn't deserve any of what happened, the poor guy just had the crime of having an attractive voice and the whole internet sexualized him for it. That was not his fault at ALL

[@RoxxyKaosGG]

Honestly, this all just makes me sad. I don’t know much about Dream. Maybe he’s awful, maybe he isn’t, but having the entire internet calling you ugly is beyond cruel. At the end of the day, he’s just a regular person, and I hope the person behind the persona is okay.

[@blackavar5723]

Yeah, I really hate the trend of attacking bad people's looks instead of their behaviors. All that does is hurt innocent people with similar features. There's a whole thread on here by a young guy who was deeply affected because he looks like Dream. If Dream really is a groomer or anything else the comments say, he deserves all the hate in the world for that - but not for how he looks!

[@kittycqtcar]

Yeah

[@jewels3846]

​@@blackavar5723this! It also delegitimize's real criticisms because of all the superficial hate he already gets.

[@MerrStudio]

You know what make me sad? Giant content creators sending hatred and weaponizing their fanbase against a small team moderating a hobby they love. You shouldn't feel sad for Dream, this guy is a massive asshole and a hypocrite.

[@DPD232]

What kinda pisses me off is how he makes a big deal out of putting it back on. Kinda like going always on extremes and being super passive agressive. Maybe if he wasn't such a shitty person, the hate would just die down.

[@AppleCinderr]

Honestly, I think the reason why everyone dogged on him was because of all the excessive buildup and his infamous reputation (Especially his fanbase’s reputation). Also when I first found out he made a “bye” video because he didn’t want to show his face anymore, I couldn’t even believe it because that was like over half a year ago, and everyone had pretty much dropped it at this point. Not saying he deserved being called ugly (I don’t like the guy one bit but still) but I feel like he definitely brought it up again for more attention. If he really wanted people to forget about it, why would he make a video? He’s not THAT dumb.

[@haleymh779]

i mean this video may have been filmed half a year ago, judging by the christmas tree

[@Furendz]

The build up is the cringiest part of this situation.

[@generalconfuseius]

Ngl i believe the bye video was made to bring attention to his new song thats dropping soon Marketing tactic i guess

[@potatoesaremyspiritfood2202]

@@generalconfuseius yeah that’s definitely what it is. He knew he fell off so he’s doing anything he can to get attention again just look at all the views before that bye video.

[@Tooitoi]

Thats what I've been saying. He's dramatizing this whole situation in such an immature and obvious way. He's making himself look really desperate for attention like he had in his manhunt era. If he didn't want it to be a big deal, he could've just stopped talking about it as people had forgotten already.

[@Yukiruu]

Don’t get cancelled over this 😲😭

[@moonpuddin3665]

Why should he? 😳

[@Yukiruu]

@@moonpuddin3665 I assume dream fans are feral

[@iamnana0]

they are

[@LoveDove6965]

@@moonpuddin3665The Dream fans are toxic even to Dream himself

[@candycane1089]

He could never lol

[@Frisklikestoart]

He could've done it the Jayden way, where she made a video explaining why she didn't do a face reveal, and then did a face reveal in the end. I think that would've worked in his favour.

[@Yui_Richard]

I agree with that

[@MerrStudio]

I think his face reveal was insanely childish Obviously that wasn't an easy video to make but if he didn't do that silly angle of his face and just made a simple video with his face without that cringybuildup that would be much better Imagine that video just being his face from the start saying hi this is dream and this is how I look like, thousand times better

[@skyisthelimit5078]

​​@@MerrStudioTrue that. Not to mention he was hyping it so much by having the biggest creators on youtube and twitch react on it so obviously, the fanbases of said creators got curious, effectively riling up almost the entirety of the internet to take a look. He sounded so confident in the video only for his face to look just AVERAGE. Not a fan of the guy, but he did this to himself building all that hype. He seriously overestimated his looks. LMAO

[@jadeluvzfeferi8283]

Dream isn’t totally ugly, but all of the allegations against him probably influenced other’s opinions.

[@rottnmilk]

^this.

[@landawille7088]

Yeah.. more than five accusations of him being a pedo and a molester is NOT a good sign

[@annierminx]

and yet all those accussations get drowned out in this sea of blatant bodyshaming bullshit

[@jadeluvzfeferi8283]

@@landawille7088 I agree. The only reason I feel that he did the reveal was to bury the allegations.

[@jadeluvzfeferi8283]

@@annierminx yeah, which is very unfortunate.

[@puraidoeustass]

I don't follow Dream and I don't even really know who he was. I don't get all the hate. He looks quite good. Not exactly my type, but definitely not ugly.

[@s.tarlen]

me neither but my sister is (or was) a huge dream stan. tl;dr everyone thought he was this super hot masculine anime boy when he was just a normal dude and everyone went "oh. buzz kill."

[@michelletran8242]

A lot of people didn't like him for his personality beforehand, the way he argued online and his cheating scandal. So when people saw the opportunity to make fun of his appearance, they took it. Not saying I agree with bashing him for his looks, just filling in why this hate was more than most face reveals

[@TheTanakaMiyuki]

Just google his allegations if you dont get the hate, because it is deserved. Dude's a scumbag.

[@Ashas.Garden]

@@michelletran8242 I don’t know anything about this kid, but what you wrote has the ring of truth. It’s not about his appearance, it’s about the need of Internet trolls to get attention and a negative reaction from their target.

[@mewz6018]

There's a lot of info online about what Dream did to get people to hate him 💀

[@rafonioslapronios]

As someone who has similar features to Dream I couldn't take the amount of hate and bullying he was getting... It hurt in my soul

[@knight-of-rain]

Don't take it to heart. It's not because of his features, it's because it's Dream. If it was any other guy there it wouldn't have been a huge deal at all.

[@rafonioslapronios]

@@knight-of-rain Oh... I understand now. But why were they making fun of his features then? :(

[@krisdiane]

❤ This comment hurts my heart. I hope you see all the people commenting here that he isn't ugly. As someone that has none of the "attractive female facial features" I can relate to this so much. Hearing how ugly your features are is so damaging. He is honestly a good looking guy.

[@rafonioslapronios]

@@krisdiane Thanks so much 😊😊 Also, if that's you on your pfp, you look absolutely stunning!! 🤩

[@knight-of-rain]

@@rafonioslapronios It's a combination of things I think, all the hype behind it, his rabid fanbase, the fact a lot of people don't like him..

[@ididnt.didyou]

I am a full on dream anti but he isnt ugly, he looks normal, ive never understood why looks would matter anyway, its who you are as a person not your looks

[@TheMerman]

because he had popular streamers react saying he's hot when he looks a mess lol.

[@mitchystuff]

​@@TheMerman attractiveness is objective, I think he looks fine tbh

[@trala8911]

@TheMerman Except that he isn’t ugly. Look at the average American and he’s slightly above average. I agree that hyping himself up was a bad idea, but his viewers already had a ridiculously overblown expectation. They didn’t want him to look average or even slightly above average; they wanted him to look like some kind of super-cute, anime-esque dreamboat. I also suspect he wasn’t asking or possibly even expecting the celebrities and influencers he involved in his promo to say he was super attractive; I don’t think he gave them a script to follow.

[@Milkko3]

yknow your messed up when anti's actually agree he isn't ugly

[@AdamTopCommenter]

"Isn't ugly" is supposed to be a compliment? "So your face doesn't make me vomit but you're not exactly handsome either!" Obviously on the internet where a persons looks matter the most that ain't gonna fly.

[@Highlander_Bones]

Dude isn't even bad looking He looks normal The only thing that looks terrible is his personality

[@insertnamehere08]

Wdym

[@Highlander_Bones]

@@insertnamehere08 he is in a lot of drama There’s the hole thing with the mask, qsmp, grooming allegations, him being toxic, the fact his plush is around $100 for a ball on a cone with a smiley face, he is yet to address said grooming allegations, and he seems to support the Par-asocial relationship with his fans

[@hehhehhehheh-wn7zz]

​@@Highlander_BonesHis personality is boring irl 💀 Bro wanted to make in person content, but was legit more boring than watching paint dry in the Mr. Beast videos.

[@insertnamehere08]

@@Highlander_Bones 😭he addressed the grooming allegations and they were fake anyway. Also yeah he’s in drama, isn’t every content creator? Do u have any other reasons or r they all drama related that every KZbinr is bound to have at some point

[@Highlander_Bones]

@@insertnamehere08 oh i didn’t know he addressed the grooming But he is pretty toxic, and so is his fan base, and he seems to endorse it He also started “drama” for no reason regarding the qsmp I say it in quotations because quakity is living his best life while dream was posting on twitter about it. Also promoting a para-asocial relationship with his fans is not drama, it’s a serious issue

[@Kruhee]

Feels like a PR stunt when it comes to "deleting his image" because... it's the internet, unfortunately, you can't do that. It's not cool what happened. Having all those people call him ugly wasn't kind but yeah, unless Skillshare can teach time magic what's done is done.

[@littletrebleclef]

You can, but you would need like the FBI and a monitoring service to keep the images being re-uploaded.

[@thisismyprivateaccount6546]

“unless skill share teaches time magic” 😂😂😂

[@Odileeeeeee]

People nowadays have such unrealistic beauty standards!

[@awtumn]

I agree. I think that's why it's so important we, as a society, stop giving into these standards. We shouldn't hold people and ourselves to them. It isn't fair or healthy for anyone. ☹️

[@ilj382]

yes, i like how often this channel talks unflinchingly about beauty standards.

[@Odileeeeeee]

@@awtumn exactly! And these beauty trends change after few years but what remains is you yourself. Everyone is unique and that's the beauty ❤

[@hansolo631]

I have never seen a woman without make-up that doesn't look like a crackhead. I don't know why that is.

[@bumbabees]

unrealistic beauty standards have always been a thing. it just changes depending on current trends and fashion.

[@horsekfobster7823]

He’s not ugly, he’s just awkward. By awkward I mean he had his head titled at a weird angle instead of looking straight at the camera like you’re doing. He was giving off weirdo vibes which made trolls get on his ass

[@vinnie-chan]

No one should be bullied because of being weirdo. Social anxiety and low self-esteem are not funny(because, clearly, he, thought that he looks better from this angle - and he is; he just didn't know right way to film it).

[@giapuffs]

I have a hard time understanding how unconventionally attractive and unconventionally beautiful people are "unconventional" 😢 Like, the societal norm is not really based on beauty, but on little pick and choose things. Not everyone with the perfect nose is pretty. Not everyone with an """ugly""" nose is ugly. And not everyone that fixes themselves to have all those little things close to perfection will be any better looking overall, they'll just look similar to a lot of other people? If you look good, you just do. If you want to look better, you can. But, however, that should be subjective. It's crazy how something subjective can be ingrained in society as a norm?

[@brendaguadalupe8220]

Very well said !

[@dannythekingofchaosandkitt4892]

Absolutely, and it's really sad that it leads to people bully and be mean to other just because they are not "perfect"...

[@grischad20]

There're many objective measures of how attractive you are. There's some subjective bias, but a 10/10 id nobody's 5

[@greenm0nday760]

yes ! and the sad thing is that even if that guy was the most beautiful man in the world, ppl hate his ass and would've find a way to hate on his looks anyway :/

[@rebeccahicks2392]

@@grischad20 Sure, but fashion trends often villify features that are NOT objectively ugly. For example, I think curved noses are objectively beautiful, but they're seen as undesirable. Or how big hips on a woman were seen as ugly 20+ years ago and then came into fashion.

[@MusiciansRule07]

Dream isn't ugly, his fan base is and he was okay with them being ugly and unhinged until the leopard started eating his face (no pun intended). Also, in my opinion, if he had just posted the face reveal video without all the crazy build up, he would've been mocked because of how the internet is but he wouldn't have been dogpiled. The bullying definitely got to him so he came up with a way to put the mask back on in a way that he didn't have to outright say it. Also, I think putting the mask back on was a bit of a publicity stunt because people are talking about him again and he's got a new song coming out. Basically, it's a mess of his own and the internet's making. People need to realize that parasocial relationships aren't real ones at the end of the day and that getting offline regularly can be a good thing. Touching grass can be a good thing. Anyway, I've been a long time viewer and I want to say that I truly enjoy your content and your level headed perspective on the trends and events that go down. Creators like you make KZbin better. Have a good one, try not to be dumb, and Happy Pride!❤️🧡💛💚💙💜👩🏾‍🎤

[@eruh3048]

lmao you summed up my thoughts about this perfectly😭

[@dannythekingofchaosandkitt4892]

Agree, and happy Pride too 🙌❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@tanlimgreendaless2839]

actually, real dream fans did not care about the face reveal (at least the people I have met in irl). They told me that after his face reveal he started talking to much in his videos on Minecraft parkour etc. So, they ended up unsubscribing him because dream wasn't like the previous dream anymore. I don't know about you guys, but I personally felt that his videos before the face reveal was better as after that he wouldn't stop talking. I only watched his videos as it was satisfying to watch with less talking involved.😓 (just to say all of this is based on my experience and my friends experience of dream. don't go replying to this saying that this is false, because this is my opinion not yours🙂)

[@moonbiebie]

I won't lie, I had forgotten about his face reveal until he tweeted this... which feels like a PR move to me, because we had moved on from it. If he's genuinely bothered by it, the "damage" is already done : people are saving his face reveal video and it's going to haunt him for the rest of his career. His face won't ever leave the internet. I do believe he's actually not bothered by it, and is using the buzz it generates to his advantage.

[@imaginekudryavka9485]

I can sympathize with having millions of people debating whether you're ugly or not, though it's obviously not something I've experienced. But my sympathy ends there. The way his face reveal was hyped up, and how he's now using mental health and pity and his infamy to promote himself and his new song, is all so calculated and gross. He's purposefully directing his fans on a warpath against everyone who made fun of his face or the reveal itself even slightly - people are going "are you happy now, you bullied him into hiding!!" while he's joking around and trying to sell his music and get more attention. It feels.. gross is the best word I can think of. It's a PR stunt. I'm sure there's some truth in his statement and he has actual, deep-seated issues with his self image. But that's even worse cause he's blurring the lines, using his fans' parasocial feelings and weaponizing mental health. He's making people worry for real.

[@eee-xd5bo]

I didn't think of this perspective, thank you for sharing. I thought it was obvious the video was a joke, and even thought it was corny, but I had some friends who were seriously worried for dream. I don't think it was his intention to worry his fans or even use them to attack, especially with how exxagerat4ed the video is. But I think he forgets that a large part of his fanbase is young children. He only ever interacts with teenagers and older people who are his fans because he primarily uses Twitter, so I think he forgets that kids or neurodivergent people may be genuinely confused by his video. I respect your opinion though, and I could be wrong. I just want to hope this wasn't malicious.

[@DearLilBunBun]

That's exactly how I feel. This is either a PR stunt, or, he's doing it to himself. He has the money to afford moderators, and has no real reason to ever look himself up. He could continue to make content, avoid things about himself, and exist online like anyone else. (on his personal, non-dream affiliated accounts) It's seriously been months since I've seen anything about dream, you do not find it if you don't go looking. I have a hard time feeling bad for the young millionaire who is purposefully looking up things to make themselves insecure, or is acting insecure, pitiful, and weaponizing his young fan-base (even if accidentally) as a PR stunt If he is being serious, and is genuinely that insecure, he needs therapy. Not to be drawing attention to himself, releasing a song, essentially weaponizing his fanbase, and playing a "Im soooo sad guys," card.

[@imaginekudryavka9485]

@@eee-xd5bo I don't think it's malicious either but it's definitely irresponsible. He isn't new to the social media game. I could understand it if he had just blown up recently, but he's had countless small and big instances where his fans have overreacted to something or fought with others/amongst themselves. He knows the power his words have, and how much people will and _do_ worry about him. And like you said, lots of his fans are very young. He has a responsibility here. And remember, lot of people just saw the tweet he made (didn't he post it before the video?) and it comes across as way more real and worrisome. It's hard to read tone through text as is, and weaving in self-deprecating humor and this sense of bitterness just made it seem like it was written by someone who is not doing well. Except he has such a huge fanbase that he can generate any response he wishes to make himself feel better. "haha I'm ugly, I'll hide again, bye" Even if there was no promotional/attention-seeking aspect to this, it would still be in poor taste, imo. But knowing that he has a new song and that he's promoting the business that made his mask (which had to be agreed upon and thought out), is what makes it feel a little gross and exploitative. I don't know much about Dream, I'll admit. But just personally, from the things I've seen, I don't like him (or his persona at least) very much. He has done things I think are wrong, but most importantly, he doesn't seem to take much real responsibility and he is very insecure (it must have been sad to have such a rabid fanbase and still feel like if people really saw your or knew you, they wouldn't like you), which is fine as long as you don't let your insecurities dictate your actions. It's exactly how I would expect someone to turn out when they become extremely famous, extremely fast and early in life. It fucks you up, plain and simple. It's rare to see someone who is well adjusted. Dream lives in a bubble of his own creation, where he mostly interacts with his creator friends and other than that it's just all about the Internet and social media. So his view on what is normal and acceptable is likely even more skewed as a result. Again, while I understand why he is the way he is, I think it's his responsibility to see how his words and actions affect others.

[@tfkdandsvkc]

This is such an unempathetic gross take he is not directing his fans to a warpath it's him trying to reclaim being anonymous after the insane hateful abuse he went through please the way you twisted this to make a dream a villain extremely narcissistic of you

[@Esther1722Bible]

He's getting bullied and you say he's he's the one at fault? Girl bye 😂

[@Mousy677]

i do not have... any opinion of dream, honestly. but he literally just looks like a person that you could see.

[@amymiles5346]

Idk why this comment is so funny to me 😭😭 "a person you could see" lmaooo my exact feelings on the situation

[@JERBYTUBE]

Pretty sure him going back to being faceless is just promotion for his song that's coming out this month. His video was extremely comedic and he even got his best friends to call him 'ugly' in it

[@helplessheroine2641]

The whole "I will keep working on not being ugly" makes me think it's a joke

[@noyoquese..]

[@gracel2mart]

My friend who likes Dream enough to attend a concert of his said it’s a promotional thing, so it almost definitely is. I think wearing the mask irl to grocery shop etc is further evidence of that - bc the mask makes him stand out MORE than if he just went around with his face

[@d4nt363]

He's not even ugly.

[@gollossalkitty]

That's true, but it's also not true. To be as objective as possible, he really ain't that conventionally attractive, but who the fuck cares, hes a normal guy :(

[@lovelucent]

I think part of the reason people clowned dream so hard is because of the problematic things he’s done before 🤫 but looks are subjective,so 🤔🏳️‍🌈💯

[@BitchChill]

​@@lovelucentThey're not subjective. If you think that in 2023 you're just denying reality

[@ventustbb3229]

@@gollossalkittyApparently his fans cared lol. I mean he already had a toxic fanbase anyways. He never really tried to make it better either. So this is partly his fault as well.

[@awtumn]

I don't think he's ugly either, just his past actions really. However, I think a lot of people forget that considering we consume so much media. All these filters, makeup, good lighting, etc. Not everyone is going to look astounding or "picture perfect". People forget that most of us look fairly average and that's okay. It doesn't make us ugly. [Edit] It also doesn't help the fact that his friends were hyping up his face reveal before he uploaded his video. His fans were led to expect him to look a certain way based on those reactions alone. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@msbetty100]

the way i see it, his face reveal was doomed to fail lmao. its the combination of how he was already starting to be disliked by a lot of people with all the controversies and cancellations he was dealing with and than the way he was hyping it up like some great event. he played himself. if he did the reveal a lot earlier in time or without all the "hype" i feel like it wouldve went a lot better, even now for him. him also looking like shane dawson doesnt help either lmaooo

[@cinxiagem225]

This is why I personally decided to never post on a public social media account. No matter what you do or who is watching you, some people will always find the most random things to criticize you about or just flat out bully you. I just generally praise anyone who has the courage to put their face on the internet, no matter how they look or what content they are making, it's tough.

[@Cemrecemres]

I am trying to create content and started to share my face little by little. But this made me scared. I am still soooooo little in the social media so it is ok but it still scares me

[@kristinayoung8070]

Honestly, I genuinely feel bad for him. No matter how you feel about him, or what he’s done before, he didn’t deserve that absolute torrent of abuse from something like a face reveal. Anyone would be severely negatively affected by something like “hes ugly” trending on Twitter about your own face. The treatment he got just feels so dehumanizing.

[@gomamon8439]

It’s the grooming and casual racism that’s being ignored for me. The face reveal really shifted the narrative to make him a victim when he’s a predator.

[@jaehyukmysunshine8904]

Wait what?? I don't understand, he is a Predator?...

[@JERBYTUBE]

He was proven innocent for the grooming alegations and he has already apologised many times for the racist comments he made when he was younger

[@allMinabe]

I'm not even surprised to hear about the racism yikes

[@lovesick3317]

@@JERBYTUBE there's like 3 alleged victims and at least 1 with solid proof of instagram and snapchat DMs (a video where they're recording their phone and scrolling through messages). dream said himself that the instagram DMs were real and in the IG DMs, he gave a 17 yr old(?) his private snapchat. i don't think he was completely proven innocent

[@Aerith_]

Same that’s the only reason why I don’t like dream

[@cgpotato]

I love how you say everything with a straight face 🫠

[@jackiearnolds]

Nowdays, we need to be constantly reminded that the huge majority of the most beautiful people in media have gone through multiple plastic surgeries and/or cosmetic procedures. Even people who already looked beautiful before that. Actors, singers, models and specially kpop idols. Every single "imperfection" and asymmetry is fixed, so people forget that is what's normal. Now, naturally pretty is considered avarage at best and people are only considered beautiful if they have been cirurgically perfected and enhanced, which is very sad and could be dangerous, if someone becomes addicted to plastic surgery.

[@mii0472]

DAMN HE REALLY WENT FOR DREAMS NECK WITH THAT TITLE 😭🥹

[@MunkQoo]

I think he looks like an average guy. Pretty sure the people calling him ugly aren't the best looking themselves 😬

[@Ryuuko-chan]

I'm not a Dream fan nor follower but I did watch his face reveal, and to me he was actually pretty cute. And generally speaking, he's not ungly, he'sjust a normal guy like all of us. I could even bet half of thos bullies are not even that much good looking irl, they just found their opportunity to call someone else ugly because it's trending, and the attention to them is all directed to someone else. I wish that all the people who voluntarily wanted to bully and make him feel bad to this point will get their own share of backlash, so at least they can understand how Dream felt when they mocked him.

[@wndering]

I mean on one hand he did get a lot of negative traction for his face reveal that was undeserved and blown far out of proportion. But at the same time the amount of foreshadowing he did with all his influencer friends getting excited over seeing his face made it seem to everyone like he was going to be the most handsome man ever (which I can’t blame because even someone like me that doesn’t care for dream wanted to see what he looked like too from those teasers). So yeah I do understand after getting all of that hate that he would want to just go back to not showing his face again. But now that he’s already done a face reveal people are not gonna just forget about it that easily and you really can’t undo it either. So I guess time will only tell until his face isn’t much of a problem to people anymore.

[@mariannkiko21]

I'm first, and yeah i feel bad for dream too, the internet is cruel, i mean he is normal looking not even considered ugly just average...

[@sunseraph1919]

Okay, but that observation about walking past a group of teenagers is so true. LOL You think you’ve grown up until a group of teens sets off your fight or flight response.

[@christyypark]

idk if this was just me, but as a person who never really watched dream’s content, i felt reallt bad for him after he face revealed. idk i mean i would probably crawl into a hole if i had an entire fan base making fun of me and whatever (although, i can cry pretty easily depending on the context). either way, i feel like some people took it too far

[@leo_f0r3st52]

He isn’t even ugly and I feel like half the reason everyone thought he was ugly was because he used a terrible camera angle for his face reveal which honestly made him look worse

[@mochiraka6579]

calling dream ugly in the title is wild lool

[@finnrogue9435]

he didn't directly say it tho 🤭

[@tomoritakamatsu]

its ok bc its true

[@rafonioslapronios]

​@@tomoritakamatsuno it's not 😁😁

[@mochiraka6579]

@@tomoritakamatsu ion even like dream but he just looks like an average dude

[@tomoritakamatsu]

@@rafonioslapronios it is always morally correct to say a groomer is ugly

[@markalexander3659]

Dream's not even ugly, just average. He just had crazy fans who talked about being "dreamsexual" and shit. Even if he was a solid 10, he would never have been able to live up to what they had built up in their minds

[@internettraveler8039]

i dont think people are actually dreamsexual. it's more of a joke thing amoungs fan groups

[@markalexander3659]

@@internettraveler8039 I know lol, but it was still their way of saying how attracted to him they were

[@internettraveler8039]

@@markalexander3659 ohhhhh gotcha. i can see that ya :D

[@nerobiblios4086]

IF Dream had tapered people's expectations of his looks and not leaned into his supposed "handsome face" he'd have been fine. But you can't cultivate a STAN fanbase without some level of parasocial relation. He leaned into the parasocial aspect of his fanbase HARD, and with that move he guaranteed that any face reveal would inevitably lead to a massive fallout. Dream reaped what he sowed in the end.

[@Matty002]

its literally only because he hyped up his face reveal. the only reason people hype something up is because they think there will be an amazing payoff. no hes not ugly, but hes not amazing either. he should know as a gamer that games that get hyped up that end up being mediocre at best get hated on hard. all he had to do was casually release reveal video like it was no big deal. calling attention to it was his mistake because people listen

[@Yo-wc3kf]

He’s not even ugly, he looks completely normal

[@ali_ann15]

People bullied and harassed dream to do a face reveal and they got it, when dream did the face reveal people were still bullying him. They got what they wanted and they still weren't happy. After this, I don't think anyone is going to do a face reveal.

[@axelsgf]

Not a fan of dream nor do i bc care for him, but to bully someone over their face all over the internet can seriously ruin the person mentally, he’s not ugly but he’s not perfect, he’s done many bad and good things in his life, bros human and ppl should leave him alone.

[@opt16]

Right but they wouldn’t be laughing if it was them. Like imagine millions of people clowning you over something you can’t control.. so wrong!

[@skyisthelimit5078]

​@@opt16nah, it was blown out of proportion because he was hyping it so much. He had the biggest creators react to his face prior to the reveal only to look average. If he only did it lowkey, just show his face like normal in a stream, he wouldnt get that much backlash. I commend his confidence though. Bro got the entire internet hyped up to his face reveal because he thought he had a face of an anime greek god or something LMAO

[@CrimsonDawn-ou4og]

When he says working on his face, I hope he isn't talking about plastic surgery

[@CaitieLaine]

I’m probably just old and out of touch but find this whole situation so cringy. I just enjoy watching you and your takes.

[@arkcliref]

that's what you get when everyone in a situation either acts like a teenager or is actually a teenager

[@hamisyummers8664]

Dream is not the best looking, nor is he the worst; like I wouldn't call him handsome. The biggest issue is the way he came about revealing his face. I don't watch him nor am I engaged in MC streaming YT. I did see a clip a while back where his friends talked about his physical appearance. In that clip, they talked about how Dream was blonde, tall, and built; basically hyping up his looks, which is in no way wrong, but knowing that they're misleading people on his looks eventually built up many thirsty fans' hopes. This led to a lot of coping and denying when his face reveal came out, as the description didn't match his appearance. Additionally, Dream does have his fair share of "teasing" fans, basically a form of thirst trap(but minus the cringe POV, music, abs, and veins) instead it was his hands, eyes, and hair. This again leaves a lot of the imagination, provoking desperate fans into forming their own delusions on how they thought he would've looked. Basically, this sums up to, don't make others believe you're better looking than you are. I'm not saying average people cannot do thirst traps, but I'm saying that's the result of looking average and pretending you're not. You're obviously going to raise a lot of expectations. This can also result if Corspe ever does a face reveal, but seeing how Dream's turned out, there is no way he's testing his on the internet.

[@negligible_reality]

Idk, the bullying was definitely wrong and outta pocket but I'd be a liar if I said it wasn't entertaining to see it all go down. Scrolling through the hashtags on Twitter was so funny omg. I didn't at all agree with a lot of what was being said about him (other than the Shane Dawson and Rumplestiltskin comparisons, because those are lowkey kinda accurate), I still got a good chuckle out of all the memes. 💀

[@maiyo2916]

Ong, the memes with dream’s Face phasing into Shane Dawson’s was so funny 😭

[@hope52677]

Can't wait for your face reveal man, gotta mark my calendar! :)

[@spitbukket6862]

It’s because he tried way too hard to show off his jawline. If he wasn’t so stiff and just acted relaxed and normal in the video I’m sure people wouldn’t have so much of a problem at all

[@prxzmsAU]

The reason dream looks "ugly" in my opinion is not because of his face, but because of a mix of how he attemped to show his jawline off pointlessly, and his head to body ratio.

[@kalliskivike]

I did'nt even know who dream was till face reveal. He looked like he had lipstick on and penciled his eyebrow. He is average looking and thats normal but he did looked quite feminine in that one video but thats all 😅

[@amymiles5346]

Right if he had just looked at the camera HEAD ON it might have been fine. Not as bad anyway. Like why was he forcing that weird angle ??! Not a stan but honestly, poor guy 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@eriana21]

Like you mentioned, the expectations he created for his own face reveal is off the charts. It's borderline narcissistic. He literally made a countdown and hyped it up across his social media and asked several influencers to record their reactions and post them online. I was one of those who was asking who the guy was because everyone was bandwagoning people into watching the reveal. Eventually his face was all over the internet but in meme formats lol. There's definitely a much better way he could've done it.

[@delshi13]

No matter how famous or rich you are, thousands of people calling you ugly will affect you. People were so mean to him. They shouldn't have insulted him just because he didn't live up to their expectations.

[@Simpai_v]

What's crazy is I never even heard of this guy until his face reveal was everywhere and in try not to laugh videos

[@maiyo2916]

THATS SO SICK 😭

[@myricn]

It really is 😭

[@aureategirl1094]

As a former mcyt fan, I remember sometime before Dream's face reveal one of his friends said he looked like a young Chris Evans. So yeah, standards were unrealistically high.

[@Dessamator]

The younger generations (Gen Xer here) kinda feel like they're all trying to be the main character. But like Mean Girls main characters. Dream has other things to poke at if you wanna be petty and jelly. Apparently Minecraft folks bathe in drama.

[@cheezyneedz]

His face reveal was funny for the first two jokes and then it was just mass bullying. I don’t think people realise that every joke they post adds up, and he’ll see it all, millions of people making fun of his appearance, like could you imagine opening up to your computer one morning to all that? I never even watched dream but this got ridiculous.

[@greeniscoollol]

Gosh, ikr, people can be so mean 😭😭😭

[@Liv-kq4tu]

your hair is so healthy looking king!!

[@blood-soup]

Just wanna say thanks for making this video. You had some really good insights and I appreciate you taking the time to criticize ~mob bullying~ ish like this. Idk much about Dream so I can’t speak to his character, but I’m pretty online and saw the whole thing go down on twitter. Crazy how much it took over trending. I hate when people bully others for their looks, even when they’re a bad person. Them being “ugly” doesn’t make them any worse, and being “pretty” wouldn’t make them any better. Any comment calling like, an evil piece of shit congressman uglyyy and nasty and they look like they’re dying of 15 different diseases and ooo what terrible teeth or elbows or eyes or wrinkles etc etc etc, it MAY get to them and hurt them but it will more likely make it onto the screens of people who relate or match that description and then THEY feel like shit. Tale as old as time, I’m sure y’all know what I’m saying. It just sucks, and it’s cruel. And even if it hurts ONLY the evil shitty person you’re trying to insult, it’s not hurting them in a place that truly matters. If they’re hurting people, it’s not bc of their looks. It’s bc of their actions. Insult their character. It’s far easier and will stick way better bc it’s undeniably true. Maybe I’ve got a bit of a bias, so this kinda thing really gets to me. But I just can’t stand it when people loOoOoOoVe on someone cuz they’re “pretty” and that’s *IT*, or when they reduce their critique of some monster of a person to “they look like shit”. It reduces like the strength, accuracy, or sincerity of the compliment/insult and imo hurts your credibility in talking about whatever person it is. And it makes me sad! Don’t call people ugly all willy-nilly people! Be more kind! and more creative! Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to say thanks for making this video. I think it’s a topic worth talking about. People are beautiful and deserve to feel that way. People also deserve to live in a world where we judge others and are judged based on who we all are, not what we look like. Makes it easier to see peoples’ hearts. Take care y’all!

[@zk6954]

He's not ugly. his fanbase is just immature and 12 and he made a big fuss about a face reveal and executed it in the cringiest way possible...

[@noirlynx4494]

This is the first time i am here so early. It's literally 2 am here and I open the video to hear you say "good morning" which technically... You are right, thank you for making my sleep deprived self laugh (can't wait for exam season to end:

[@Jackfrostsbestie]

The thing is, it's not the fact that he was ugly that was the problem, he wasn't, but it was the fact that he hyped up his face reveal as if he was gonna announce the second coming of Christ AND the location of the lost island of Atlantis. But also, his fans having an unrealistic expectation of what he actually looked like definetly played a role, like some of them genuinely thought that Dream was gonna look like the identical twin brother of Henry Cavill or something.

[@highestqualitypigiron]

Yea it's interesting how much being pretty changes it, I wonder how successful your channel would be if it was entirely dependent on your content, I mean you're quite good looking and I would say looking at your funny reactions definitely keeps me engaged more.

[@elle_roy1443]

Um he’s kinda cute! Nice smile

[@vinnie-chan]

I'm so done with people hating on his features and even trying to justify the hate he got. I don't even know him, this is just not okay things to do. You're the exact reason why we had so high teenage su*cide rate and ED epidemy. No people deserve to be bullied because of their appearance, no matter what. Not even once.

[@dio_n755]

i thought the hate he was getting was because of the gro*ming allegations he proved right and all the problematic this he did

[@rebeccahicks2392]

@@dio_n755 If he's a terrible person, he should be criticized because of his actions. If you criticize the way someone looks, you're also saying that all the non-terrible people who look similar are ugly.

[@dio_n755]

@@rebeccahicks2392 i never said that(?) i said that i thought the hate he was getting was not because of his looks but because of his actions

[@KARINA29534]

Seeing someone get backlash for not being attractive enough is so crazy to me. I hate this society 😢

[@AdamTopCommenter]

That's humanity for you!

[@missvintagela]

I remember when this was EVERYWHERE. He may not be the anime boy everyone had in mind, but he's also not like ugly. People just set the bar way too high.

[@agme8045]

Honestly this happened to me many times, like following a KZbinr or something like that and one day see a video where they show their face and being like “wth i definitely didn’t expect them to look this way” not necessarily thinking they are ugly, but I guess our brains just create this idea in our minds that the person we like so much and has a cool voice, is going to be good looking or attractive (just how sour brains do that autocomplete when people are wearing masks and we picture them being better looking than they actually are

[@llaquis]

its crazy because of how perfect looking people except social media influencers to be due to how edited how shoved down our throats their content is they expected dream to be like supermodel gorgeous and when he wasnt they got mad. like he literally just looks like a normal person you would see at the grocery store everyone just needs to go outside and touch grass lol

[@kpe02]

He hyped up the reveal so much by having his friends reacting first. Had he just dropped it would not have been such a disappointed to his fans.

[@alienhazy]

biggest thing is that dream just got too cocky. he expected his fans to stick by him but didnt realise their obsession with him wasnt with Him, it was with the made up sexy bishounen dream theyd made up in their head. kinda deserved for making that stupid mask song be stuck in my head for two years

[@yasu-kun5376]

eagerly awaiting december 32nd of 2038. honestly love your videos Edvasian, i get so hyped whenever i see you pop up. Take care over there, hope you're doin well

[@dougpeaches666]

I want you to know your voice gives me a sense of safety. Like a person’s unconditional love. I hope you never have to or want to stop.

[@dougpeaches666]

Unless equality and understanding prevail.

[@KuroNoUsagi]

Tbh I was around twitter by the time he face revealed and a lot of people called him ugly not solely because of his face, but because of the garbage of a human being he is. He could have been an adonis and he would STILL be called ugly because people werent focusing on his face but on his actioms(at least the people I saw on my tl).

[@f4kef4ngs]

the part where he was like "even though I'm ugly" sounded soooo attention grabby, like people who post about how nobody will ever want to date them and ask for rates and stuff. fishing for compliments by faux moping

[@BitchChill]

I think even if he was a model, he would've still gotten made fun of

[@nostopath]

i used to be rlly nervous about showing my face online and dream has helped that purely because i now realise its better to be mid and have people know that than to wait to show your face until people already know and like you 😭

[@Neekachu11]

Honestly, I really do think the media in general has warped everyone's beauty standards to impossible heights. Combination of professional styling, photoshop and even cosmetic procedures in some cases is usually used to enhance the way models/celebs look and I think people forget that. KZbin initially got popular as a way for "ordinary people" to broadcast themselves and their talents away from mainstream media which can feel manufactured and false at times. It's sad to see that those exact standards pushed by mainstream media has bled it's way into social media in a way I feel is even worse. At least before, the celebs and models were in the magazines, on the red carpets, in the movies etc. Even though those same standards existed, there was a distinction between their lifestyle vs that of the average individual. But now? They have instagram accounts, facebook pages where we get to see them in their everyday lives doing seemingly mundane tasks such as cooking, cleaning, enjoying holidays, looking after their pets etc and those lines have blurred because their whole profile screams "look at me, I'm just like you!" That "perfect" image is everywhere you look. And hey, if you buy the products they're selling, maybe you can also look just like them too!

[@Hadeshy]

I get how the comments affected him, especially when it's not just the comments. There was VIDEOS about how his face reveal was a mistake (I'm looking at you SunnyV2). I've suffered school bullying where everyone was telling me how ugly I was, I know how it feels. But people really need to chill. If you need your youtuber to be hot and sexy, you're the problem. F*, Dream isn't even ugly. People can mock him, but if putting the mask back do help him with his mental health, it's more important. If it's just promotional bullshit though, it's bad. It's terrible. And it's using littrally guilt-tripping his audience and using other people struggle (mental health following harassement) for his benefit.

[@mazecy22]

sunnyv2 never said anything about how dream was ugly tho, most people understood that dream’s perfectly average. sunnyv2 just pointed out how dream’s face reveal was pretty much doomed from the beginning bc A. his fan base is super toxic. B. he overhyped it way to much C. some people hate him for his fan base and so would’ve been mean to him even if he was super attractive. also bc of the unnatural angle he held his face at

[@Hadeshy]

@@mazecy22 I didn't say sunnyv2 said he was ugly. I said he made a video about how his face reveal was a mistake. I'm not judging him or anything. Just saying that, when he was already facing insults about his appearance, having youtubers making a video to say his face reveal was a mistake, that must been hard.

[@mazecy22]

@@Hadeshy ok . i just wasn’t sure what your tone was intended to be. we are on the internet after all

[@ejosjek52.87]

​@@mazecy22"not even ugly" is just saying hes ugly

[@mazecy22]

@@ejosjek52.87 or it could mean that he’s average, which he is?

[@maef7026]

Everyone mad because they expected handsome squidward.

[@thirstaefortae5057]

The side angle of how he did it was weird… a little like he practiced? But Dream isn’t “ugly”. He looks normal but his fanbase expected him to be like Sykkuno or Valkyrae level of attractiveness…

[@koo-core7274]

sounds like you mean people expected dream to be asian 😭

[@once.upon.a.time.]

YES, I'm convinced it was mostly the angle he was holding that was the weird part. It looked almost uncanny valley in it's awkwardness. I don't think he's ugly or even unattractive or anything like that

[@thirstaefortae5057]

@@koo-core7274 just because I’m using Asian examples doesn’t mean I thought people expected him to be Asian. Sykunno and Valkyrae just came to the top of my head because they’re quite well known. Pewdiepie and Sydeon would be another example of good looking streamers

[@duqial]

​@@koo-core7274 they just meant like Idk Vinnie Hacker level, they are objectively considered good looking. They just hyped him up too much to be this hot/cool guy and his face just didn't meet their expectations. Idk why people assume faceless streamers to be people wanting to escape being perceived as their pretty face only when these are just people, that respect their own privacy and want to attract people with their personality. In this industry if sb has pretty privilege they will use it 99% and I don't mean it in a derogatory way, that's just the most efficient way to make themselves stand out, because every successful streamer has an interesting and attractive personality, it's just like a free marketing for them.

[@Kitthecatgod]

Idk if this video is going to be a roast or an analysis of the unrealistic expectations of the internet of their fav Minecraft KZbinr. Update: it neither, he’s just telling us what’s happening lol (he did come for his neck with the title 💀💀)

[@absolutelynotellen]

This was another case of liking the idea of the person rather than the person itself. The ammount of handsome Dream fanarts that i once saw floating in my twitter timeline...

[@wendyreynolds8940]

Excellent segue to the Skillshare pitch at 1:50. I did a spit take, and now I have to go clean my monitor and keyboard...but that was totally worth it! Have a great weekend!

[@kaivy5830]

Bro, when I saw his face, I was not impressed, but like not disappointed. Like, he looks normal. He's what I picture when I hear "average guy". People just read too much stuff online and see so much that they've become out of touch. It's crazy and sad.

[@bethanyengland433]

It's sad to think that Dream now believes that he is ugly and needs to wear a mask in public because of thousands of comments. I wouldn't blame other KZbinrs to be afraid to do a face reveal after Dream's cyberbullying.

[@connie401]

I honestly feel bad. Regardless of him being a bad person or not, pushing him to that point is messed up. Two wrongs don't make a right. Making fun of someone's looks will not only effects how they look at themselves their whole life, but others that look similar to him

[@Princess_Faye777]

Not a fan of dream, but this whole situation really shows how far off people perception of average is. Dream is definitely not ugly, and I wouldn’t even say he is average. We’re so used to seeing the most attractive ppl online to the point where we don’t know what average is anymore ☠️

[@adalon378]

You hit the nail on the head... the problem is not the way someone looks, we know better in current times. His "only" problem is his personality, choices, decisions, judgement, so on. He makes dodgy stuff and choices, but even that doesn't mean someone is bad... owning up to our mistakes is how we grow. He doesn't even do that. Instead he always denies mistakes (cheating scandal, instead of admitting and explaining that it wasn't intentional though, he denied it until people couldn't hear it anymore), or he erases his mistakes (mask reveal circus). Luckily for him in a way, majority of attacks also come from cringe teenagers as well, the ones who used to be fans and are at least able to tell the difference between right and wrong, even though they don't express it well yet. Thus the negative feedback ends up being a bit mis-directed. No one truly cares how he looks or if he makes mistakes, the problem is how he acts!... and still has not changed, the more time passes the further he is from the opportunity to walk everything back, make a mens, leave, and maybe only return with a better attitude. I don't think most people will wait even if he could manage, which i doubt very much. It would take him years, maybe go away for 10 years. But that's only is he has any humility left in him.

[@serafina2393]

Okay, not try to be weird but, you're looking pretty sharp my guy. Real face or not, you foxy! The Dream situation has been cringe for awhile but now it's just sooo 😬 Thank you for the trial month of Skill Share!! I literally quit my job today due to a toxic work environment. This is huge blessing to be able to be working on some things to get to a better place. Been a fan for almost a year now since finding your channel. Appreciate the entertainment & trial of Skill Share 💕✨

[@FedezPros.89]

he doesn't deserve this, people are so evil, they even get angry because he's covering his face again, what would you do if 100000 called you ugly?

[@yaoiblfan]

It was Sad. I never knew it was THAT bad. I first saw and heard of Dream in a Mr. Beast video and I find him cute. I never knew about his face reveal and the hates he's getting until now when I stumble upon this video. You Are Fine, Dream. No need to hide. People who can't accept You being You isn't a loss.

[@lukemcright3892]

Honestly I'd never heard of Dream before this whole thing happened, still don't know anything else about him but I literally could not feel worse for him- like i just keep imagining what it would be like if one day i showed the internet my face for the first time and then i immediately became a trending topic on twitter due to how ugly everyone thought I was. Genuinely an actual nightmare for me that I fully anticipate would just ruin my self image, having all my insecurities seemingly confirmed by thousands of people. I really really hope that this dream guy has thick skin and is able to mentally brush it off mostly...

[@krisdiane]

The response to his face reveal was all so stupid. He looks like a normal person. He's not bad looking. I think the only reason people zeroed in on his chin is that he did the reveal looking to the side. If he'd just looked straight at the camera people would've never been like "omg, CHIN," but the way he did it his chin was quite literally the first thing we saw of him.

[@DearAliya]

Never watched Dream nor knew who he was prior to his face reveal but his this whole event taught me that all of these people who constantly preach 'Love yourself' and 'You're beautiful no matter what' people are actually full of shit.

[@user-ev9yz1yb7l]

I think the way he positioned his head to show his jawline just made it really funny to me

[@haewonized]

the “stream ive” is so real