Why Infinity War Worked and Justice League Failed | One v One

Avengers: Infinity War and Justice League share a lot in common as a superhero team-up movie. But when it comes to quality, only one succeeded and the other failed. Let's find out why! And now let's see how the Snyder cut does.
Also, let me know what you think about Aquaman, as that's in theaters now. How is it? Are we going to see a brutal Aquaman honest trailer or Everything wrong with Aquaman or the like? I only heard a track in the score that seemed to be from an
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Avengers: Infinity War released on blu-ray and digital dvd, and upon second viewing the movie is still fantastic -- full of great clips of fight scenes and action scenes -- be that in New York, Thanos' home planet Titan, Wakanda and its forest with emotion and deaths and after credits and the snap everything we're used to.
Iron Man, Spider-man, Thanos, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Ebony Maw, Captain America, Thor, Groot, Rocket, Black Widow, Gamora, Mantis, Drax, Hulk, Red Skull, Falcon, War Machine, Loki -- everyone is here! There were many sad death scenes in the end, even in the post credits scene with Nick Fury, and it's easier to ask who died than who lives. So it will be very interesting to see what happens Zack Snyder's Justice League | Official Trailer | HBO Max in the sequel, Infinity War Part 2 or whatever it's called. Let's review the mistakes if there are any, and be honest about it.
Every actor is here too -- Robert Downey Jr, Tom Holland, Josh Brolin, Elizabeth Olsen, Scarlett Johansson, Tom Hiddleston, Chris Pratt, Benedict Cumberbatch, Dave Bautista, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth. Truly an incredible cast.
On the other spectrum is Justice League with Batman, Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Cyborg. And though Justice League might have some enjoyable action sequences and fight scenes, the movie isn't that great. Another rewrite would've been useful, as that movie doesn't know what it wants to be. We'll see how Aquaman and Shazam and Wonder Woman 1984 do -- and if there will ever be a Justice League part 2. Aquaman. Aquaman ending explained. Aquaman 2. Also, let me know what you think about Aquaman, as that's in theaters now. How is it? Are we going to see a brutal Aquaman honest trailer or Everything wrong with Aquaman or the like? I only heard a track in the score that seemed to be from. Aquaman after credits scene. Jason Momoa. Aquaman fights scene. Aquaman fail. Aquaman DCEU. Mistakes.Aquaman after credits scene. Aquaman reaction.
In before Screenjunkies' Honest Trailer Infinity War and Everything wrong with Infinity War -- aka all funny jokes are my own haha. Although you have to go elsewhere to get the Infinity War ending explained.
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[@Filmento]

I know it's been almost a year, but I won't let it go. I'll never let it go. Never forget, never forgive.

[@sebastianverano8723]

hey you can make broccoli tasteful if you soy sauce on it and believe me it taste good

[@propheci]

Now that bit at the end, with Peter Parker dying at the thought of Tony banging his aunt? That was just wrong, dude...lol.

[@sebastianverano8723]

funny because in real life Robert Downey jr and Marisa Tomei used to date

[@Pikachufps3]

You had me dying on the 6 years and Thanos dancing part! XD

[@YourVideoEssaysSuck]

The Snyder cut would have been so much better

[@Kadz]

_Infinity War worked because it had meme potential_

[@user-ep9by4hv1z]

It has Thanos Car

[@DonsStudios]

Where is Gamora? 😐 Who is Gamora ? 😲 WHY IS GAMORA?! 🤯

[@earthwormsally3059]

YoU sHoUlD hAvE gOnE fOr ThE hEaD mR. sTaRk I dOnt FeEl So GoOd

[@earthwormsally3059]

PeRfEcTlY bAlAnCeE aS AlL tHiNgS sHoUlD bE

[@ohoh6902]

This was your home And it was bEaUtIfUl

[@ichidoriyou7472]

wait i just realised JL lied to us:in the poster it says "You cant save the world alone" but in the end Superman comes in and soloes Steppenwolf

[@asadabdulqaabir4006]

Well that was exactly the message "You cant save the world alone... unless you're Superman"

[@taegotkash]

Lmao Ikr 😂, I might have to tear mine down now.

[@jayn9362]

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut

[@coladict]

Well, YOU can't, but HE can!

[@kevinclement1533]

And Superman turns out to be a humble person, and still gave Aquaman and Wonder Woman the chance to deliver some hits to Steppenwolf while he watched from the back 😂. Justice League has so much potential if done correctly, but WB is too impatient to outpace Marvel. Its a pity, I feel that many of DC's standalone movies like Wonder Woman, Man of Steel, Aquaman and Shazam are better than many of MCU's standalone movies.

[@Kate-he8ug]

First avenger: can make Chris Evans actually look believably skinny Justice League: can’t even cover up a moustache

[@anquanpham4287]

Thin Steve Rogers wasn't Chris Evans.

[@Kate-he8ug]

@An Gia they managed to make it believable. It was his face, on an actor's body.

[@mysunshines4you]

An Gia most of the time it was him, they’ve shrunk his body. Look for the movie behind the scenes for more info.

[@callummason6589]

They made Chris Evans look like a pre pubescent boy, that was a thing of nightmares.

[@linoserrato3357]

An Gia what so ever it was better than the mustache dumbass

[@iamgroot5717]

"Infinity war had one consistent vision" *SHOWS A SCENE WITH VISION IN IT*

[@Stereo6400]

_ha_

[@observer2484]

Ha

[@nicknackau]

I noticed that too

[@dennisfriasii7270]

I see wat U did there

[@aaronmueller1560]

He’s pretty consistent, too. And there is only one of him.

[@TOONAMAX]

Infinity War: washed, cleaned, prepped, seasoned, marinated, cooked, garnished, cooled, served, blessed, enjoyed. Justice League: microwaved.

[@xviicass]

Toon™ 😂😂😂😂

[@thealmightywonton4687]

Why did you marinate after cooking it?

[@young_hsgc7793]

🤣🤣

[@chickennugget9254]

You cook it first before marinating?

[@thealmightywonton4687]

Chicken Nugget did you just copy my comment but in a better version?

[@aryadey60]

Thanos: loves his adopted daughter more than anything. Stephenwolf: loves his mommy boxes

[@foop2954]

I'm 60% sure that there was a magic trick in which the box that his mom was in was cut in thirds and now she needs to be put together

[@scotcheggable]

*Stephenwolf*

[@greenkoopa]

I'm a big fan of mother's boxes, as long as they aren't my own mother 🧐

[@Grasslander]

There is just no point with a movie where Superman can beat anyone in one second. He can fly around the world in a second, and is strong enough to destroy the Earth if he wants to. He is invulnerable. Why would he need allies? How could he possibly have enemies? They all pull out kryptonite, which is absurd - pieces from a planet that exploded far away and went through space randomly, and dozens of them somehow landed on Earth. But why would that stop Superman when he can just fly high in the air and throw rocks, or freeze a kryptonite-holding enemy with his breath? They have to constantly nerf Superman by making him extremely stupid. Landing in front of a villain to talk. Moving far slower than he is capable of. I see no point in paying anything to go see such a character.

[@meetsiddhu3455]

Not more than the soul stone I tell you

[@internziko]

DCEU: you took everything from me! MCU: i don't even know you!

[@bilbobeutlin3319]

*I don't even know who you are

[@josephweimer2859]

Bilbo Beutlin You stole my correction...

[@rjill7000]

"You won't."

[@tomsiebert155]

Yet dc rivals marvel

[@cliffordbenenati7373]

@@tomsiebert155 only due to the comics and tv shows

[@flower_girl4983]

*Drax is here in the comments, but he's too still for u to notice* 😁

[@matthewquach2705]

Bro you still making that joke?

[@wolfiegames1572]

@@matthewquach2705 this was over a year ago.

[@T-I-M-E.42]

*cromnch*

[@theconvict4843]

well it will never get old

[@corvina_y]

I read that as dax and I got confused

[@nickovoxsipa]

The cgi of Thanos is waaaaaaaaay better that the one of Steppenwolf who seems coming from a PS2 game...

[@kendallroyfan]

Lol

[@yattasuccess9212]

Gamecube*

[@harrylane4]

They shouldn't have introduced an all-CG villain until they were given the budget for it. More things that WB rushed because they just NEEDED to "catch up" to a series that started 4-5 years before them and makes twice the number of movies in a year

[@TheFunnyGuy9000]

And way better than Will Smith’s Genie

[@goated9415]

Thanos looked real, couldn’t even tell it was cgi it looked that good lol

[@reaktorleak89]

I loved that Thanos was the main character in Infinity War. He had logic, history, emotion and lots of screen time. Great call by the directors.

[@fryPS]

Ok I’m just going to edit this comment and delete what I said because these notifications are annoying now

[@pnd-uc8bt]

f89ry7 PS4 scared to kill people? Did we watch the same-

[@fryPS]

XxxIdgaf Ya. The movie where he could’ve easily have killed everyone is Wakanda but didn’t want to.

[@pnd-uc8bt]

f89ry7 PS4 his goal was to kill half the universe. He didn’t care about the people in Wakanda. After he did what he wanted he left.

[@fryPS]

XxxIdgaf That plan doesn’t make sense in the first place. I’m pretty sure you have heard the complaints but the universe will repopulate in a few years to the way it was. Plus him doing it for a “good” reason makes him less scary than in the comments

[@samanthadavidson1653]

DC: Let's do what MCU did, but in like 4 movies. Fans: This sucks DC: Surprised Pikachu Face

[@DivvayKhatri]

That's what Whedon and WB did. Not what Snyder did. The guy had a 3.5 hr movie. Idk how they were even gonna get that released but one thing is for sure. They were gonna get every character in their properly. Even Martian manhunter, green lantern and darkseid. Oh and also deathstroke and lex

[@frobsonsdesenhos]

@@DivvayKhatri too much characters to introduce in just one movie

[@DivvayKhatri]

@@frobsonsdesenhos x men has entered the chat. And it doesn't matter because it's not a rule to introduce the characters through solo movies first. Especially if you have a 3.5 he movie to introduce all the characters.

[@DivvayKhatri]

@Marvel Stark ok so 2 superman stories, 1 batman story and 1 wonder woman story isn't enough? Oh wait and there's a suicide squad movie too coming before jl. And that jl that was supposed to be made was an origin story for cyborg as well.

[@drsandoz2810]

@@DivvayKhatri the X-Men are a group of superheros who don't have a separate Identity besides being "X-Men" expect wolverine, just like guardians of the galaxy Justice league is a group of individual superheroes who have a separate Identity just like the avengers You can't create a new team up with pre established superhero and don't let the people connect to them at fires

[@dennisfriasii7270]

Thanos: I need the stones to cleanse the universe..... *Meanwhile in DC* Steppenwolf: *BOX*

[@hariadiirwansyah]

Yes. Box. To please his mother. 😅

[@davidhumby2495]

Thanos: R O K

[@grimsobad8545]

Pullin' out the coupe at the lot Told 'em fuck 12, fuck SWAT Bustin' all the bells out the box

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Ah yes Mommyboxes

[@vigneshv3846]

@@davidhumby2495 *infinity stones

[@jen-dz8bq]

5:36 "he has less personality than Thanos' henchmen, and I'm pretty sure one of them doesn't even speak." 😂😂 BURN

[@amujaoonly103]

Damn!

[@ThrawnSr]

@RB Cull Obsidian, the big one that loses a hand via Wong in New York and then dies on the wakandan energy shield.

[@cliffordbenenati7373]

@rb gaming12 all of them included are 1. Cull Obsidian (the one who doesn't talk) 2. Ebony Maw (squidward dude) 3. Corvius Glave 4. The blue girl (please forgive me for forgetting her name)

[@nandakishorem8238]

Approxima midnight

[@justthinking650]

ngl, I've enjoyed ebony maw's 3 minutes screen time than steppenwolf throughout the entire movie

[@F1rsttimer]

Infinity War was the dessert of a long three course meal on Thanksgiving night. Justice League was a snickers bar.

[@ServantOfPriss]

That's honestly a disservice to snicker bars.

[@trevorphilips9065]

F1rsttime_online Can't compare those films

[@advip2552]

Trevor Philips he did

[@ATATChat]

Bahahah

[@GagasAlGhazali]

well said

[@liarose2054]

"And it features Spiderman, which never hurts" *Gets hit with a billboard*

[@faiz486]

I swear to god, I read this as soon as it was saying it

[@bolt4yt]

I started giggling like an idiot because of that smack sound effect

[@queensenpai6722]

Being one hundred percent honest. I went to see Justice League opening night with some of my friends. I fell asleep within the first 20 minutes of the movie and woke up to the end credits. That was the only time I've EVER fallen asleep in a theater.

[@diligentinlife5361]

LMFAO

[@jrosales360yt4]

Damn

[@rahuldraj]

well, u r not alone.. but i am fell asleep during second half

[@notstupidbutthatsalie601]

Bruh just wanted my mom to get more nachos and was drinking a coke, didn't want to think of that movie.

[@yoshithebear7630]

You guys watched the movie?

[@AnotherAgnostic]

You made some valid points but you missed the biggest reason why Marvel succeeds and DC doesn't... Marvel is more patient. That's right. Marvel built up to infinity war for a decade, starting with Iron Man. DC did very little character building. They should have had a Flash movie. They should have had a Cyborg movie or two. They should have sat down and planned out every movie before shooting the first movie. That's the truth.

[@FallingOranges]

Now that you've mentioned it, I'm surprised it wasn't brought up as it is a common point I've seen brought up in comment threads.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

I always thought that. They just threw the characters in there, like hey here you go have fun.

[@timego5552]

@Tory Livingston They were simply mentioned there, just a cameo. They had no characterization nor build up. That's the problem, you can't rush these things. Iron Man had like 3 solo movies before Infinity War, so did Captain America. Thor, Hulk, and the Guardians got their own movies too, Spidey did too. The other Avengers movies gave even more development on their relationships. Heck, just about everyone got their own movies.The point is that we got to understand these characters and grow attached to them. We watched their struggles and accomplishments in their respective movies, so when the time came for all of them to meet, it ended up being a storm of emotion. We know who these heroes are, not as characters, but as people. Say there's an upcoming football game this week and you're going. If some stranger just approaches and tells you he's playing, you wouldn't care for them. However, if your bestfriend, lover, or sibling happens to be a player for the game, how they would do is gonna be as important to you as it is for them. That's the difference between DC and Marvel; DC rushed it and tossed everyone in, while Marvel took it slow.

[@monsieurtyrell9652]

@Tory Livingston You don't need to make 18 movies over the span of 10 years to have a movie with an interesting villain, good action scenes or a compelling story...

[@sulaymafrancis7619]

Tory Livingston well if you compared marvels first film to justice league or the first avengers film they are both better. I’ve been able to sit through a lot of films, but justice league was just unwatchable and they’ve actually done much better before. They just rushed it because they wanted to rival marvel which was a bad move on their part

[@RajashreeGhoshdiya]

the lego batman was better than the justice league.

[@TheDarkstar3601]

the Lego Batman was WAY WAY BETTER than justice league* fixed it.

[@sarugakuza5108]

Lego Batman was better than infinity war

[@alexnguyen1777]

Sarugakuza you're delusional

[@nootnewt9323]

LEGO Batman was an amazing movie and completely underrated

[@serentique]

No shit

[@svisuals4932]

Infinity War: *Has two coexisting directors* Justice League: *Has two but not coexisting directors*

[@ironforged2329]

Damn right! Lol

[@rudrasingh6354]

Thing is the Russi brothers are.. brothers. Joss Whedon came in after Snyder left cuz of family issues. Both had different ideas. Best course of action should have been to scrap the movie and remake it. Or wait for Snyder

[@tyrkun1624]

@@rudrasingh6354 Joss Whedon was involved before Snyder left but they clearly had vastly differing views

[@sohanroy7833]

@@tyrkun1624 their choice of tones is 180° apart, just compare avengers with BvS. In no universe, they are compatible with each other.

[@mastercatz8801]

When the lego version of your movie does better then the main version

[@burcopresents]

*when the parody version has a better story than the original version*

[@Grasslander]

The Lego version was actually Mr. Mxyzptlk turning the real world into Lego.

[@Randomperson-zt3il]

@Spider-Man nooooo

[@aricente]

I love thanos, and i enjoyed killmonger but nobody gives enough credit to Vulture. Vulture was honestly such a good villain, he was both brutal, relatable, intimidating and commanded so much presence in his scenes

[@flavoryf566]

Right. I feel like people just forget about Homecoming, and Vuluture was the best part of the whole film. Underrated.

[@GEMINIVice1]

Ego - GotG vol. 2, Vulture - Homecoming, Hela - Ragnarok, Kilmonger - Black Panther were all good viliians pre Thanos imo.

[@GEMINIVice1]

@Sergio Ramirez lol...man traveled all through the galaxy dropping his baby batter off in every woman he could find I thought it was funny that he was revealed to be a dedicated man whore back in his hey day. The shit about killing unworthy offspring and Quill's mom...not so much.

[@everettwold]

Yeee

[@tholebutenberg2486]

That‘s why they let him life and go to jail. I think we will see the vulture again with the sinister 6 in Spider-Man 3. Sony wants to bring Venom into the MCU/Spideyverse, i could see something like: Green Goblin, Vulture, Shocker, Sandman (survivor of the elementals in Far from home), Mysterio and Carnage vs Spidey & Venom + someone like Falcon and Winter Soldier in the last battle. MCU understand one thing far more better than DCEU, people love cameos, they love collaborations! They love that it all paints a bigger universe. I never understand why they don’t took flash from the show..and gave for example Cyborg a mini arc in it like 2 or 3 episodes. You would have got a Flash everybody likes + a Cyborg people outside of DC fans know. For example, MCU needs someone the can mash up with a new hero? They can always take Quake or Ghostrider from AoS because it is the same Universe.

[@optillian4182]

"He has less personality than Thanos' henchmen." Don't diss my boi Squidward like that.

[@toxin1882]

🤣😂

[@bryanbrosta9816]

ahahahahaa

[@Citizen_Shane21]

Im sayin bro Ebony Mau was gangsta..

[@matteussilvestre8583]

Yeah, that was just cold.

[@Maulbert]

I don't think he was. Ebony Maw had more characterization in 5 minutes of screentime in Infinity War than Steppenwolf had in all of Justice League.

[@ZaqueChannel]

I think another key reason that Just League doesn't work is the characters have very little in relation to each other. In endgame, a lot of the characters had already built up relationships through several separate movies and had history and a reason to fight togethor.

[@lemontree9518]

Zaque good point

[@zlwel287]

the first avengers movie didnt have that too but it still worked

[@madtitan0825]

@@zlwel287 because they have conflicts with each other, to this day I still don’t understand why Aquaman changes his mind to join JL, the team itself just doesn’t make much interesting interaction and also we don’t know much about these characters

[@zlwel287]

@@madtitan0825 both teams had internal cnflict, both joined forces for a common goal, we only know thor iron man and cap in avenger, and we only know batman superman and wonder wamon in JL

[@madtitan0825]

@@zlwel287 tbh I don’t feel like I KNOW Batman and Superman in this universe because the movies tell their stories poorly, I know WW cuz they literally explain her character for the entire movie(I really enjoy WW)so we understand her action in JL, and other two characters’ development is just... vague

[@yourneighborjeff8917]

Thanos uses the reality stone to fake his death Gamora: Ah shit here we go again

[@Tyrik73]

Thats the reason i don`t think Present Thanos is dead in endgame. It felt too easy similar to when Gamora thought she killed him.

[@daredcell9563]

The stones are gone tho how could he. Also he couldn’t hid them because there was a huge power surge and he looks weak it makes sense he looks that way and the power surge because he destroyed the stones

[@kolesouther1466]

Spider but I mean with the reality Stone can’t he change literally anything he wants? It’s possible he was doing something else, but it’s probably not the case and he actually was just killed

[@TheSaiyanPrincess89]

@@Tyrik73 The difference is he only had a few Infinity Stones when he faked his own death...in order to collect the rest of them and finally be able to fulfill his goal. When they killed Present Day Thanos, Thanos didn't put up a fight because he didn't need to. He had fulfilled his mission in life and destroyed the Stones so no one could ever undo it. Present Day Thanos is 100% dead. When people fulfill their life's purpose, they are more willing to accept and embrace death. They have done everything they set out to do. They don't care if they live or die. They're good now.

[@achintya5265]

this video is better than justice league

[@everettwold]

The most true words ever spoken

[@nicknackau]

Achintya Gupta hahahahaha soooooo true

[@camdinner789]

literally

[@aliminator1310]

DANG, BOI!

[@ashleegardner6819]

Lol agree

[@Pengowirr]

Easy answer, Marvel planned their path Marvel got writes that knew the characters Marvel established the characters before bringing them together Marvel stroke a good balance between seriousness and comedy. Sometimes too much comedy but decent balance none the less. Warner Bros did nothing of the sort bar Aquaman and Wonder Woman. I'm a DC fan but Marvel studios just did everything better

[@tiagodarkpeasant]

the amount of comedy was perfect in wonder woman, as expected from a war movie, they only used jokes in times people would joke in real life

[@superjackster0165]

Here’s the order that should’ve released the DCEU movies after Man of Steel. 1. Man of Steel 2. The Batman 3. A proper Man of Steel sequel 4. Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice 5. Wonder Woman 6. Aquaman 7. The Flash 8. Cyborg 9. Justice League.

[@mycroft16]

@@tiagodarkpeasant I'll agree with this. As a Marvel guy personally, I thoroughly loved Wonder Woman. That was just such a great film.

[@DarkHeartTheEmo]

@@mycroft16 Exactly "That was just such a great film." but that is only one Marvel did more movie and most of them are great the only one I did have a problem was Iron Man I didn't like it and Thor for some reason I couldn't watch it I find it boring, but beside those all the other I think the are great, so what is a great movie against a few good movies? When you compare Marvel still did better.

[@ryancarson6962]

SuperJackster01 That’s what DC SHOULD’VE done. That and get a better villain than fucking Stephenwolf and not make the plot a poor man’s Avengers.

[@sahilsarkar361]

The only question that bugged me after watching Justice League was: Didn't they sit down and watch the movie before release?

[@rishi_k75]

I know right! Now that the Snydercut's release has been confirmed, WB executives are trashing on JL. Like WTF dude? They watched the movie and decided to release it and now they're just hating on it 😂

[@sahilsarkar361]

😅😅

[@tinystar4592]

in the original avengers, the theme was about teamwork and stuff. Justice league tried to do the exact same thing but they ended up saying "everyone sucks, resurrect a godlike alien so he can destroy everyone"

[@Hmmm777]

I'm kinda scared that Captain Marvel would be the same thing as superman

[@ruefullysage]

@@Hmmm777 she is in the comics. but the thing about her in the movies is she doesn't know her full powers yet. there's lots of interdimensional crazy shit that happens with her. with Spider-Man: Far From Home they sort of hint at it so we'll see if they let her reach her full power. the good thing about her as opposed to superman is she's already established as taking care of the universe, not just being on earth. where as superman is only really ever on earth (for now). that makes it easy to make excuses as to why captain marvel can't help with an issue on earth.

[@burcopresents]

@@Hmmm777 nah. Captain Marvel has some space stuff to do. Like she said in endgame, there are a lot of planets out there that don’t have defenders or avengers.

[@JensFleurackers]

Marvel really set up their universe, DC just mashed it together imo.

[@Lockn3s5]

Quinn Dang No, DC's comics absolutely translates to film but they aren't inherently dark. The problem is that each character has a big personality and are completely separate from each other. Batman is the dark brooding type, Superman is the hopeful ray of sunshine, Flash is the comic relief, Wonder Woman is the powerful combat expert, Aquaman is the stoic takes no bullshit guy, Cyborg is the tech support newbie. The way these characters interact with each other is what makes bringing them together interesting. Unfortunately DC just goes way too dark for everyone and then doesn't even capitalize on their differences. I honestly couldn't stand watching more than 10 minutes of JL before turning it off and I love these characters. It's the world building that's already been set up that makes these characters less appealing. It's the shortcut to a Justice League film when only Superman and Wonder Woman have had a movie to build up their characters. It's lazy work plain and simple. Marvel earned it's team up film and capitalized on it's characters. DC on the other hand just wants money and it shows. Justice League movie only after 1 Superman film where he's introduced to the world and a half assed sequel that focused more on Batman who's fucking older by the way so we have a brand new Superman and an aging Batman who haven't even developed their relationship yet but we're supposed to buy that they respect each other by the end of BvS when they still have no actual meaningful interactions with each other. Hell even Superman has yet to have meaningful interactions with anyone besides Louis yet we're supposed to believe he was some beacon of hope. Show don't tell. I was never shown how Superman was a beacon of hope seeing as how his first film took half of it's runtime to expose him to the world and it's sequel just glorified him immediately as though he's been doing it for years. Wonder Woman was an out of time film so it doesn't do much other than inform her character but also creates inconsistencies considering her arc in her solo film doesn't line up with her actions in BvS. There just is no consistency. WB just keeps running around trying every fucking idea but then gets in the way of the creative freedom of it's investment which ruins the original product. Suicide Squad was a shit film because they took a gamble on a company who exclusively edits movie trailer to cut the entire film and that absolutely shows because it's complete shit. Way to ruin the director's vision. Reshoots for JL changed the tone and direction of Snyder's cut which probably wasn't all that better but still one singular vision. Too many hands in the cookie jar. If you hire people for a job, LET THEM DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS!

[@Lockn3s5]

Quinn Dang Initially every character was pretty dark. Imagine what Synder's original cut would have been like. The lightheartedness only came in after Joss Wheadon came with reshoots. That initial statement I made was in relation to BvS where both title characters were practically no different. Both equally somber and brooding with no inherent differences between the two and no idealogical differences. Their conflict came down to hating each other for doing exactly what the other is doing. They are the same and are bitching to each other for doing things they both each do. It was fucking retarded to watch. Superman wasn't hopeful he was like tired and annoyed. Carrying the weight of the world that didn't appreciate him. Batman wasn't hopeful, carrying the weight of the world.... you get what I mean. The movie didn't capitalize on their differences and expected it's audience to just love that the two characters were in a movie together.

[@-Trauma.]

DC needs Dr. Manhattan. In the DCEU, they should just chock the creation of the DC Universe up to Dr. Manhattan, and introduce live action versions of the different universes. If they follow the comics out now, they'll do well.

[@summit1jlol165]

hi

[@Renuclous]

I love DC Comics but the DCEU Movies are just bad from a Cineastic standpoint. They are just bad movies. Full Stop. DC is chucked full of great characters and storylines, but time and time again the modern DC movies are rushed to death. They feel the need to pump out something to compete with the "epicness" of an avengers when they haven't spent a decade establishing every single character with an own trilogy. Imagine a DCEU based on the Dark knight trilogy. 1 dark Superman movie and then a BvS with Christian Bale Batman returning to Gotham. Then maybe first an Aquaman movie. THen a Wonderwoman. Then another Superman movie. And THEN you let them team up and introduce one or two new ones like Flash. But instead they base their Universe on one really shitty Supermanmovie (seriously, if you can't see that MoS was just plain shit then i don't even know what we are talking about here) and then cram down a Justice League with characters we haven't seen before without any emotional attachment. Thats the difference. When people went to see Infinity War, they spent time with a Tony Stark they have known for over a fucking decade and have seen in a dozend movies. You care about a character like that. You don't give a flying fuck about "Cyborg", that robo-dude you learned about 6 mintues ago who sticks his CGI hand into some CGI box. Great story ark...

[@Helbore]

Marvel: Let's craft a ten-year plan to tell the biggest superhero story ever put on the big screen. Y'know, do what we did in the comics, but live action. DC (Warner): We want the money that Marvel is making. That's the problem, along with everyone else trying to jump on the shared-universe bandwagon. They're not doing it in order to craft a huge story, they're doing it because they've seen Marvel make tons of money doing it and want a piece of that pie. They're not willing to put in the time and effort to develop it slowly, because they want the big bucks now. Avengers was the big money-maker, so they want to skip straight to that one, ignoring the fact that is was the build-up that made Avengers successful. Its like someone looking at the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Oh look, Return of the King was showered with awards and made lots of money, let's find ourselves a cool fantasy series and skip straight to the last part. What, nobody liked our film? I don't get it?

[@xKingx16]

Exactly! But,The sad part is... DC COULD have "caught up" easily. and they botched it. I'm talking about BvS. At first ,People were rushing in to see freaking SUPERMAN and BATMAN on the big screen together for the 1st time. It was bad and word of mouth slowed it down. If it was actually good it would have done really well. All they had to do with setup for TWO CHARACTERS . TWO CHARACTERS

[@justinaguilar5255]

Well Marvel only did the movies as a way to make money... they were bankrupt. But yeah WB is just shitting on DC for the money. Also ROTK is the 🐐

[@megamage911]

Justin Aguilar I mean, ofc they're doing it for the money, they're a business, that's how businesses work, but at least Marvel were smart enough to actually do it properly. And as had been mentioned, and this is what I've been saying since BvS, DC seem much more focused on trying to catch up to where Marvel is now, than actually making a proper universe that the fans will get invested in. It's fucking sad when even die-hard DC fans have to admit that Marvel is actually doing it better. Hell, it kills ME that they're botching it like this, cuz I fucking love DC. I grew up with the Bruce Timm shows, and those were absolutely amazing, and they were technically one of the first versions of a shared universe like this, though I think the Marvel shows with X-men and Spiderman were a bit earlier, but my point still stands, they were able to create a proper and good universe back then. Hell, they've been crafting a great universe in their tv-shows with the Arrowverse for years now, so obviously somebody working at DC knows what they're doing, but for some reason they can't translate that into their movies, idk what the hell is going on! Sry for my ramblings, I'll cut it off here xD

[@G_-ue9bq]

Took the words right out of my mouth. Marvel gave us time to familiarize ourselves with the characters and we grew to love them. DC kinda just jumped straight into the team up films, shoe horning doomsday into batman v superman and killing off superman way too soon. They were desperately trying to catch up with marvel and that was their downfall.

[@Renkencen]

Helbore Heh, that last paragraph remind me of the fail Eragon movie! Also the same apply to the Universal "Dark Universe" film Mummy!

[@andrea_thesciencebtz8436]

Marvel:Perfectly Marinated,Perfectly cooked,Wonderful texture.Perfection! DC:It's Raw you Prick!

[@CoolNinja101]

Andrea_The Science B!tz I LOL’ed at this

[@theworld9744]

Copied the homework changed the homework passed the homework credit

[@sephandremanticore5438]

Gordon Ramsay about DC: it's shit, ya donkey!

[@tigerchillyable]

Its RAWWW!!

[@edwardteach3000]

Well, I guess there are Klingons among us then. Because some people actually liked this movie.

[@NornAArnBard]

We see the big thing Drax is sitting next to in the establishing shot before Quill and Gamora have their big scene. If Drax really was standing there for an hour, it's canon that he really was imperceptible, even by an omniscient magical eye.

[@David-ro9cb]

What the f¥ck

[@NornAArnBard]

@@David-ro9cb There is an establishing shot that shows the whole room before Quill and Gamora have their convo. We see the whole room in a wide shot. Drax is not visible. Either he silently shuffled in mid-convo, or he actually has been standing there for an hour like he says. He only became visible when he ate the nut and they heard him. At that point he was no longer invisible, because they knew he was there, but they couldn't see him until they hear that he was there.

[@scotcheggable]

He's our secret weapon against the watchers

[@darekbaird]

To be fair they never did see him until he started eating so he was technically invisible.

[@realamod]

Darek Baird - right on!

[@UnderEarthFilms]

He has mastered the art, of standing still. He has entered the in between!

[@darekbaird]

I am surprised I got so many likes. Thanks everyone.

[@thomasturtle7207]

No problem

[@CabezasDePescado]

that joke in the movie was bad and out of place

[@joallen2004]

DC movies are so dark... I mean literally I had to turn up my brightness on my TV but still didn't work

[@sticklait]

Lul

[@kira-dk2mx]

Because anything DC needs to be dark...says no one.

[@ImAlpharius]

Deadpool 2 made a joke about dc being dark

[@canceritself1854]

You need some glasses, my friend. Justice League is too bright.

[@harizirfan5117]

It dark if it synder

[@StormMcBeth]

From a Marvel reader to DC readers. I'm sorry for the way WB is treating these characters. They deserve better. You deserve better.

[@arturocastroverde3349]

Thanos is one of the best movie villains ever made.

[@arjunkg9944]

Dark knight?????

[@arturocastroverde3349]

@@arjunkg9944 joker also When you say the dark knight reffer to joker

[@arturocastroverde3349]

@@arjunkg9944 is more jajajajajajaja learn to write well preak

[@arjunkg9944]

@@arturocastroverde3349 im saying joker is best not thanos Jajajajajaajajajajaj 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

[@arturocastroverde3349]

@@arjunkg9944 both are equally great Wow a 🖕you're very salty 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@MyPisceanNature]

The biggest reason, Marvel spent 10 years setting up the payoff of Infinity War, and DC tried to play catch up as fast as possible, instead of laying the groundwork.

[@trevorphilips9065]

J.J. Kuchenmeister So just trying to fit in that's pathetic DC doesn't even make their own movies

[@a.morphous66]

It’s Marvel constructing a building on a solid foundation vs DC trying to build an entire house on naught but a bunch of loose dirt.

[@MosesPrimm]

Yeah you see how lazily Doomsday was just plopped in at the last second. These studios really think people are that shallow lol.

[@aman_409]

A. Morphous yep dc sucks they build giant house on sand

[@myles6445]

One produced funny memes, the other WAS a meme

[@rosesske2551]

Injustice Gaming Put it this way, regardless if it’s good or bad will always get some good memes out of it.

[@sikkableeat5614]

So you sayin... we sum kinna... sooside sqwat???

[@raphaelb3019]

One produced an original joke... And one copied it.

[@alshahriar6230]

get lost squidward

[@iSickle_]

Why is Gamora?

[@terminalmontageness6292]

Infinity War: mom's homemade cooking Justice League: fast food

[@alrycaaeveahexendias1236]

Even I can sit through an entire fast food meal. Garbage is still the closer analogy.

[@namitsachdeva7919]

The best line I've heard about dc and marvel is that " Dc focuses on the super while marvel focuses on the hero" And thats why marvel is successful and worth experiencing

[@curtisrodriguez938]

Marvel also used several cameos of Thanos before he took the main stage so they built up some fan anticipation unlike Steppenwolf who I had never heard of before the Justice League movie.

[@Lunk42]

Honestly it's so stupid they don't have steppenwolf make any earlier appearances even though a majority of people who go to watch justice league probably don't know who he is yet they still felt the need to show Bruce's parents dying AGAIN in BvS.

[@lvo9197]

Also, steppenwolf has never been that much of a big deal for the dc universe. He is basically Darkseid´s servant, who is yet to reveal himself. So again, just a way to build anticipation for an upcoming movie instead of focusing on the present one.

[@andhikabayutrimulya5801]

so darkseid servant is so powerful that the team is basically useless and have to rely to the newly resurected superman, if so then we don't need any JL movie for darkseid, darkseid vs superman is enough, anyone other than superman would be useless anyway

[@megamage911]

Andhika Bayu Trimulya Yeah that was one of my major problems as well, the fact that Superman was SO much better than everyone else, just felt like everyone were useless next to him.

[@busybillyb33]

The Thanos cameos were weaved in very nicely over the course of the plot and the important thing was how early on Marvel introduced him. It raised awareness among the movie goers and allowed those who aren't into comics that much to do some homework and see what to expect.

[@fruitfarmfactory7901]

Dude, Justice League couldn't even beat the FIRST Avengers movie. Comparing to Infinity is like comparing number 0 to.......infinite.

[@XDLugia]

Even the first Avengers? Dude, the first Avengers was amazing. It couldn't even beat the likes of Iron Man 2 and Thor 2.

[@HeyIntegrity]

Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 were garbage. Winter Soldier was the only good movie that came from that era

[@yeongvinsheng7639]

@@HeyIntegrity in iron man 2 Anthony stark acted like a jerk for most of the film while in Thor 2 it feels more like Loki's the main star.

[@sikkableeat5614]

+S Khan They weren't garbage, just not as good as the others. And they were better than any of the DCEU movies except WW.

[@TooCooFoYou]

S Khan If you're talking about phase 2, then you forgot Guardians of the Galaxy, Age of Ultron, and Ant-Man.

[@gusvogt-shields4689]

*Drax disappears* Me: *likes video with maniacal intent*

[@sharkwar4284]

“White Cyborg doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you” White Cyborg: 8:27

[@Vienna3080]

The reason infinity war was light years better was because MCU producers have been developing this story for a decade While Justice Yeet was just 2 hours of shit with no build up

[@xiiscari317]

*_-J U S T I C E Y E E T-_*

[@xiiscari317]

@@RhinoTTH justice leg

[@neptunes-moons-sao2538]

Marvel announces infinity war Dc : of shit we need to throw something together so we can be equal SOMEONE GET PHOTOSHOP AND MS PAINT

[@jamie-rs1ne]

Best way to stop a strong enemy? "utilize multiple visually distinct abilities in a clever and hella cool looking way" "smack him with a fork"

[@aymandihaz6809]

no you nead super man hhhhh

[@trequor]

The best part is that it actually makes sense with the plot. The Avengers/Guardians NEED to bring their A-game. They need to work together and be totally flawless in order to succeed

[@heetsees]

If that fork would have hit it may be magic and really fucked superman up. If batman wasnt taking a nap they might have put supes on his knees

[@scarletpsychowolf3578]

KEEP HITTING IT TILL IT DIES

[@huebirdofhappiness3981]

One edged sharp fork.

[@ce666isa3]

Best scene ever ... I've master the ability of standing so incredibly still that I become invisible

[@nishiliyer1567]

Just the thor entering in wakanda scene is enough to show infinity war is better than justice league

[@DjVader112]

one more thing I hate about JL they didn't highlight any of aquamans powers,he mostly just swung his quindent around,they could have just replaced him with hawkgirl if they want some blunt force trauma.

[@CabezasDePescado]

you can thank the pointless reshoots for that

[@MCharlerySmith]

Mini Panini far less known than Aquaman and clearly far weaker. She’d never be able to handle Steppenwolf how Aquaman and Wonder Woman did although her mace does do major damage. I’m a big fan of Shayera but she would work better with Batman against the Parademons since she’s about their level of strength and can fly too.

[@TheJames1579]

That's why i'm hoping the movie is a lot better

[@zeffiexx]

I believe they wanted to wait for his standalone movie to come out to show his powers. My biggest disappointment with JL is flash, I had high hopes for him haha

[@DjVader112]

Matthew Charlery-Smith whats the difference,aquaman and wonder woman did little to no damage to him which brings me to another thing I hated,the very basic garden variety supes ex machina.

[@evansfj]

AVENGERS took 10 years and 15 movies before infinity war. Properly introduced every character. And slowly built it's roster, and the big reason. THEY FOLLOWED THE COMIC BOOK SOURCE MATERIAL! (Mostly) Justice League was a rushed project with 3 independent movies before it. Wonder Woman was really the only good one. Man of steel was decent, BVS was trash. Plus, no Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, or Martian Manhunter. The real real villians of the DCEU are the writers, and the CGI team.

[@jorgeddls]

Martian manhunter is my favorite dc character since I was like 4, i hate that DC removed him from being a foundator of the league :c

[@bixybarnes8797]

19* movies

[@aasishsharma4342]

They build up for 10 yrs it's coz their characters didn't have strong story line and a hand full of comic book reference and majorly many of the charecters are ripped of from dc, DC comics have perfect and strong story line that's why just the animated series was so good which followed the comic books accurately.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Zach Synder is the main villain for the DCEU. But good thing Aquaman was already a hit as well as Shazam. I think DCEU improved itself nowadays. It's to have movies without Zach Synder and the writers.

[@twinzzlers]

@@aasishsharma4342 Lmao, so you're saying most Marvel characters a ripped off from DC. So how is Iron Man, Hulk, Thor or Captain America rip offs? And that is just naming a few.

[@mityakiselev]

OK but can we please talk about how Steppenwolf wants his mother's box

[@PKMN37]

Infinity War: A well-planned movie that knew what it wanted to do. Justice League: Too many cooks in the kitchen.

[@fleetadmiralauto6506]

When Thanos snapped, all of DC ceased to exist.

[@riquepr]

😂😂😂

[@visioncr5132]

The aquaman lives

[@UTU49]

FAA. Touche.

[@aurexte4701]

Suddenly liking Thanos

[@shreyas1475]

meh inifinity stones dont work outside of your marvel universe on the other DC's darkseid powers are universal.If his real form enters thanos and marvel will start to collapse so shut up fanboys

[@therealrickytan]

Infinity War > Justice League for many reasons, but here's one that stuck out to me: Thor = is the strongest Avenger, and is a GOD. But has NEVER been shown actually defeating any of the other members of the group. Iron Man...Captain America...Hulk... all have held there own. In doing that, Thor doesnt make ANYBODY on the team seem useless or far inferior, despite being a god. Also, the beginning of Infinity War shows Thor DEFEATED........ Thor does show up to save the day but at the very last minute... but not on his own strength, he needed a new weapon... and he fails! Superman = Is clearly the strongest of the JL. and has been shown to be just as fast as the Flash, strong enough to defeat the entire team in less than a minute of being resurrected, and throughout the movie depicted by Batman and the group as the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT person needed to defeat the villain. AND he does it barely breaking a sweat without any help, and showed no growth as a character at all!! so... whats the point in having a team? basically, Thor is a supporting character and is not the only reason the team fails or wins. He just plays a part. On the other hand, all is lost with the Justice League without Superman. THAT is a huge writing error.

[@chrisb6049]

Hulk is the strongest sorry, but I do agree with what your saying superman is to me the most boring hero there is because he is perfect. No flaws which is ridiculous to me and he doesn't need anybody else so that's why his movies suck.

[@jaysmediasolutions3105]

@@chrisb6049 Superman's flaws = Martha, Lois Lane and Kryptonite

[@cd4playa1245]

therealrickytan no, that's where you're wrong: Superman's superiority to Steppenwolf wasn't a writing error, it was spot on. Life isn't always fair, and sometimes the bad guys get their asses kicked. The Justice league still saved some other people or held their own while Superman saved people's lives, which if you think about it, is all everyone but Thor and Hulk did in Avengers 1. I think Thor could have eventually defeated that entire army and Loki, but NY would have been nuked. Superman is the most powerful super hero ever written. That's his thing, and that's why people love him. I would have been pissed if they made superman a bitch.

[@cd4playa1245]

The Scarecrow1941 very good points. Hulk and Vision were basically completely written out of the story in Infinity War. But when superman bitch slapped Steppenwolf I almost shit myself.

[@kkokay4]

This is my biggest complaint about JL as well. Why call it justice league when its literally just operation revive superman so he can do everything while you guys watch and are useless. Its supposed to be a teamup movie but the team is useless. Also superman couldve easily won it before the team even got there but he was dicking around with lois while the world was being conquered. Basically superman was way too op in this and made the team feel useless, which makes the movie feel pointless since it was based around the team the entire movie. It just maks the viewer wonder wtf was the point of this mess. In the animated shows superman isnt depicted this way, in the other depictions of the justice league superman isnt just completely carrying the team, the team is working together to save the day, and thats what this movie misses entirely. and thats not including the countless other blunders. Its just wrong in so many ways.

[@TrancezFreak]

Thanos + Josh Brolin combination made me want to watch 18 Marvel movies right before the Endgame premiere and became a fan of the MCU which I thought would never happen as I actually thought that the movies are dumb and way out of my taste for cinema. Thank you Thanos :D

[@sansintierra]

Another thing to point out is Marvel had many more movies to set up the character arcs and build towards this final confrontation, even when they weren't explicitly doing so (and probably didn't know whether they'd be able to pull it off). This makes the viewer investing more into each of the heroes, and also creates consistency. More round characters, developed and believable goals and stakes. I think JL got hurt from the lack of planning and editorial vision of the DCU. Their origin stories were so dissimilar in tone and theme, that even if the execution had been on par (DC cgi still feels cheap to me) Marvel was years ahead to create a memorable crossover event because of that consistency and character development.

[@JailanSimon]

I hated how Flash ran 😂 the way his arms flailed

[@mbanerjee5889]

THANK YOU! It looks so stupid.

[@anthonyvillanueva5226]

When I first saw him run I was like, 'the hell is he doing?"

[@shairreimfflawrence7832]

Anthony Villanueva looked like he was going to do some anime power move.

[@10WTF011]

Anthony Villanueva when I first saw him run I was like, “Did he take running lessons from Woody from Toy Story?”

[@shairreimfflawrence7832]

@@10WTF011 lol

[@yeppe8293]

Infinity stones: Ancient powerful relics that represent different elements of the universe. Motherboxes: Cubes when they are close together makes a bunch off weird pillars come out of the ground and makes everything dark and fire, lol. For the whole movie I was clueless to what they are, and what they would do. In Infinity War I was like “oh, he’s got the power stone- that means he’s powerful” and so on. To be fair I wanted to enjoy Justice League, but watching it made me feel stupid.

[@UTU49]

A "Motherbox" is one of the lamest "special objects" I've ever seen in an action/adventure film. Also it sounds vaguely sexual and incestuous. GROSS!! To be fair I ALSO wanted to enjoy Justice League, but watching it made me feel super sad... and bat sad.

[@UTU49]

Instead of "Motherboxes", I think it would have been cooler if they called them "Sisterpurses" or "Brotherpouches".

[@sebpaine9095]

@@UTU49 I cant stop thinking of a command block in minecraft when they mention motherboxes

[@xxhaxonxx8345]

@Shiny the plot of regular minecraft is better than justice league, and the plot is just "find a portal, get pearls and kill a dragon"

[@yungmuney5903]

@@xxhaxonxx8345 Even then there's much more to do after you kill the Dragon in the end

[@CallMeVidd]

Infinity War doesn’t have a consistent Vision tho He fucking dies

[@EhlistarsWrath]

I think this movie does amazingly well because of one thing- Thanos actually wins- no matter how hard the good guys try.... It’s not often we see a villain win, and we’ve *never* seen one win on this scale

[@blackwidow7804]

You forget to say that: Thanos CGI: amazing Steppenwolf CGI: trash

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Agreed.

[@footballarenabase6036]

Yhhh it's true Thanos CGI is more realistic

[@itstrending8440]

@Black Ninja its also crazy how thanos cgi improved over the years

[@itstrending8440]

@Black Ninja lol he is definitely the best cgi villain and justice league couldn't remove a moustache lol

[@ireneaguila225]

Don't forget about superman's mustache

[@darthvader6533]

"Steppenwolf just wants three boxes, because thats just who he is apparently" *DC summed up in a nut shell*

[@skeletonwar4445]

Steppenwolf is actually the personification of Loot Boxes. His mother is the Goddess of Microtransactions. They're the absolute evil.

[@darthvader6533]

@@skeletonwar4445 , Hahahaha

[@wyvern2037]

@@skeletonwar4445 ur right, maybe his mom is very rich that he needs his mother just to buy awesome cosmetics in Overwatch and Destiny (lol i didn't see the JL movie, sry if i made mistakes in my comment)

[@trevorphilips9065]

Darth Vader How is that DC summed pretty stupid if you ask me

[@darthvader6533]

@@trevorphilips9065 No one asked you. Im riffing on DC because they dont know why they do half of what they do, thier story changes so erratically you cant follow it, and thier characters are shallower than my bank account

[@zaidanahnaf9431]

Now that the Snyder cut is out we can finally understand the characters' motivations

[@Cresc3n1]

Yet the core problems remain such as why do you need the league when it only takes superman alone and rest of them are useless anyway

[@zaidanahnaf9431]

@@Cresc3n1 No, the core problem is you haven't watched the movie yet but you act like you have

[@Cresc3n1]

@@zaidanahnaf9431 lmao I have, and it's still all about those damn mother boxes

[@zaidanahnaf9431]

@@Cresc3n1 Then how come you don't know about the Flash scene?

[@Cresc3n1]

@@zaidanahnaf9431 it doesnt change anything,

[@horaciosi]

WB: You have great ideas Disney, but my ensemble movie is better in every way! Disney: How did you establish the new characters in the other movies? WB: .....Other movies? * Justice League bombs * Disney: You might wanna look into it. * posts release date for Infinity War *

[@alphareturns5988]

The snyder cut will save the dceu.

[@gojogaming451]

Justice League didn't exactly bomb, but it was considered a disaster, considering that it only earned 600 million dollars at the box office.

[@connorcobb5122]

I understood that reference

[@jdvr3891]

Infinity War had a large roster of characters that were all fully realised and fleshed out. As an audience we know these characters and how they act. Justice league didn't have that. Justice league feels like watching a mediocre movie. infinity war feels like you are on the adventure WITH the characters.

[@gavinpatry5653]

Not only the adventure with the characters but dying alongside them as well.

[@nutroll1622]

Gavin Patry lol

[@NewYearsMixDDS2012]

Infinity War made you feel like you really lost half of the characters. Still hurts

[@Fahad-369]

@@NewYearsMixDDS2012 yeah it feels like the characters were really our friends and made us really cry and grieve for them dying

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

@@gavinpatry5653 yeah 😥

[@NotoriousTorashiro]

Infinity War worked because it was the product of a ten-year effort, in which Marvel carefully crafted their characters and the world around them, fleshing out origins and interweaving plotlines that would lead to a handful of smaller ensemble films that all built towards the major pay-off in the end with all their work coming to fruition. Justice League failed because it was the product of slapping together some known properties and expecting results, without the careful planning and laying the groundwork for a well-established extended universe along with failing to develop characters properly or beyond the simple dark, edgy archetype they seem to love so much.

[@LeBlingKing]

The thing is, Marvel's way of doing things was a lot more fleshed out and allowed you to sympathize with each individual character as opposed to DC that just did things in a way that felt rushed.

[@paulkontz8958]

so much this...

[@dopegrahamcracker2809]

NotoriousTorashiro couldn’t have said it better myself

[@adamgray1753]

Exactly, @UCRGyFrEzSdHFusuzMalve-g. When I heard about the "Thanos Didn't Do Anything Wrong" crap online I was like, "What...? Are you people really taking this movie way too seriously? Please get a life, each of you.".

[@CabezasDePescado]

Justice League failed because we got a butchered movie that was a blend of two completely different visions, that is all. And Infinity War is far from a perfect movie. You are wrong, Guardians of the Galaxy made a team up in whithin one movie, children need to stop using the "oh it was rushed" excuse as an argument. And their archetypes were certainly not "simple, dark and edgy", people love to complain but do not even understand what they watch.

[@HondaAccordProductions]

The D.C. Villain reminds me of the beast from beauty and the beast live action edition

[@foop2954]

At least the beast doesn't look like plastic

[@HondaAccordProductions]

Lol😂

[@HondaAccordProductions]

True foop, very true.....

[@gamedragonja8962]

this is why i love filmento.he talks about the reason I hate superman.WHat is the point of a team if one member is leagues more powerful than the rest.

[@ocek2744]

I always kind of found it funny that people always stated that Marvel had a villain problem, yet they had one great villain and a couple acceptable villains up until the third phase, where they had an explosion of villains. Also, I say that James Spader's Ultron is still one of the most underrated villains. It was just hampered by poor plots otherwise.

[@bickle8931]

Ocek it did have a villain problem until vulture they have 6 good villains that arent forgettable in a 22 movie franchise.

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

Amazing Villains: Thanos, Loki, Killmonger, Vulture Great Villains: Mysterio, Winter Soldier, Hela Good Villains: Zemo, Alexander Pierce Ok Villains: Iron Monger, Abomination, Ronan, Ultron, Ego, Ghost, Sonny Burch, Yon Rogg Bad Villains: Red Skull, Aldrich Killian, Yellow Jacket, Dormammu Trash Villains: Whiplash, Kaecillius Awful Villains: Malekeith Idk I'd say Marvel used to have a villain problem but its not that bad anymore.

[@BEMSmarky]

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 red skull is a bad villain? Really?

[@bloubbloub2430]

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 lmao the ragequit villain. Definitly the most creative way of beating ur ennemies

[@freshpalm4473]

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 whiplash opening was so good, but his way of revenge is just too much

[@saintpsu]

I think Tony went to face Thanos head on because he want to limit possible damage to the planet, not because he still has some beef with Capt.

[@stillwatersrundeep001]

PRECISELY THIS

[@CalebJMartin]

Also, specifically because, as he mentions, 'Thanos has been inside [his] head for six years.' He's tired of waiting. Tired of being played for a fool. He's going to face him head-on, whatever the consequences may be.

[@danix454]

But the beautiful thing is both theories may be right, or wrong. That's how well he's written and how beautiful the history for him has been created. It may be a little bit of Capt, or Thanos is in his head, or none of that. Maybe it's his ego and the fact that he thinks he can somehow handle this, or minimize the damage. He's a complex character and maybe anyone's theories could've been the reason. He's THAT WELL WRITTEN!

[@BrianWilliams-rl9hw]

No its because he has been haunted by Thanos since the First Avengers. They literally say it in the movie.

[@MessyGamer616]

Y'all are stupid. He literally spells it out saying "I dont know if its better to fight him on our turf of his but if we hit him there he wont be expecting it." dude's tryna get a surprise attack at purple 4head man and it nearly works

[@doug176]

What makes infinity war so good to me is how well it balances an excess of probably like 30 different characters and still everyone has at least one moment to shine and make their presence known. In the 3rd act it all condenses into 2 parallel conflicts: the crew on Titan trying to protect the time stone and the crew on Wakanda protecting the mind stone, and both have enough stakes and stuff going on each one could honestly maybe get their own full length movie, yet they’re intertwined in such a way that works because they have the same objective and tone while featuring completely different settings and characters. Infinity war is just so good man. Since its release it’s become possibly my favorite marvel movie ever, including the non-mcu movies.

[@sanjaykumar-jv1ce]

Batman vs Superman : Dawn of failure This is where it started

[@zabbas9371]

Justice League: Stephen's quest for the Lunch Boxes

[@andrebeckham2649]

ZABBAS Not the lunch boxes 😭😭😭

[@zabbas9371]

@@andrebeckham2649 im sorry...this had to be done...

[@zabbas9371]

@Dankius memeious daym hes one of the popular kids

[@cowlico]

HAHAHAAAAAAA all of you funny as hell!!

[@kennywu8522]

Drax thinks he learned the art of standing still from Groot freezing every time Drax tried to catch him dancing

[@GothicDragonX]

Heh, that is true. Didn't notice the connection until just now reading this.

[@footballarenabase6036]

Avengers Endgame was built for 8 years before the movie

[@victorortiz2183]

It seemed like Stephenwolf was banished from his homeworld after failing to conquer earth the first time. It would have been interesting to see what that was like for him and how he felt about it. It would've been kind of like that episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender (awesome show), in season 1, where it showed why Zuko was after the Avatar and wanted to "regain [his] honor".

[@3Guys1Video]

How to stop a huge villain "smack him with a fork" lol

[@angelvasquez3767]

Or pull out a butter knife on him lmao

[@thectbchannel]

Because Marvel Studios put the right people in charge of making their comic book movies and Warner Bros. didn't. It's that simple...

[@achyuththouta6957]

No it's cuz you don't understand Snyder vision. He is the best director ever

[@alittlebitofeverything9269]

@@achyuththouta6957 let mr guess.. Are you gonna say that marvel is childish or that disney bought critics opinions?

[@achyuththouta6957]

@@alittlebitofeverything9269 No. I actually like Marvel movies although I really hated Thor Ragnarok

[@ironcap8913]

@@achyuththouta6957 You must be joking.

[@MrND1945]

@@achyuththouta6957 it honestly made me laugh hearing you say snyder is the best ditector

[@sharx9881]

okay summary....... MCU: good DCEU: bad

[@alphareturns5988]

MCU : good DCEU : Decent

[@dothog1401]

@@alphareturns5988 MCU - used to be good, but fell off. DCEU - dogshit

[@frankthepug9242]

Infinity War is the best MCU movie, the result of ten years and 15 movies building to a climax with a twist ending that can be actually shocking if you weren't expecting it, has an incredible villain with clear motives, and is followed up by an equally great sequel. Justice League is the worst DCEU movie, the result of 4 years and 3 movies building to what is kind of a climax with a predictable ending that isn't shocking at all, a boring villain with no clear goal, and thankfully we haven't gotten a sequel yet. Oh, well, at least we have the Snyder Cut.

[@johannageisel5390]

But ... but ... but - Infinity War DIDN'T have one consistent Vision! He changed his appearance twice - once from human to android and once from android to dead.

[@johannageisel5390]

Yes, I'll see myself out.

[@jakefoxx7978]

And while dead he turned gray. Does that count? Vision's best line in my opinion : "Well... I was born yesterday"

[@berniebernal]

Vision really sucked.. the real comic book Vision really kicks ass. and should have foght Thanos hand to hand.

[@yoqueen9366]

Bernardo F. Bernal Estefan BRUH ITS A MOVIE, ITS SUPPOSED TO BE DIFFERENT, OH NO, ITS DIFFERENT FORM THE COMICS, BIG DEAL, caps were #intentional

[@xiiscari317]

I mean he got stabbed multiple times and people were trying to snatch the Mind Stone out of his head.

[@davilia3179]

I watched infinity war like 9 times in the same week and I still get chills

[@emzl]

Ethan Davis ew I can only watch a movie at the theatre once without it getting boring

[@casper6405]

Ethan Davis so you wasted your money on something I thought was a waste of fucking time after infinity war I watched the godfather so that I could remember how a good movie was And after JL I watched the dark knight to remember how good DC used to be in movies

[@casper6405]

Saban Saban I don't get it either I think their blinded by nostalgia glasses or something

[@optillian4182]

@@casper6405 Fuck off DC fanboy.

[@casper6405]

Optillian Do you have a brain cause why do you call me a DC fanboy while I also said in my comment that after justice league I went to watch a better movie to remember how good DC used to be Cause 1 I like DC and marvel both 2 Infinity war and justice league are both shit movies And 3 Ever heard of opinions oh wait it's the Internet

[@R0B1NG5]

Watching this again after the snydercut, I can't help but feel a lot of this still applies to it. People talk like its a completely different film, and I would agree it probably is a little better, just because the longer run time allows for more character moments and most of the jokes in the original didn't land for me. But I don't think it completely saves the movie. It still has so many problems.

[@lucysteel2686]

@Erik Kemeey bruhh

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

Amazing Villains: Thanos, Loki, Killmonger, Vulture Great Villains: Mysterio, Hela, Winter Soldier, Zemo Good Villains: Alexander Pierce, Iron Monger Ok Villains: Abomination, Ultron, Ghost, Aldrich Killian, Red Skull Bad Villains: Ronan, Yon Rogg, Yellow Jacket, Dormammu, Ego, Sonny Burch Trash Villains: Whiplash, Kaecillius, The Supreme Intelligence Awful Villains: Malekeith Idk I'd say Marvel used to have a villain problem but its not that bad anymore.

[@RussyPopDnD]

Nah man, you need to elevate Zemo. Most subversive 'supervillain' ever. Swap him with Hela on that list or something.

[@pankajvaishnav7099]

Zemo should be on top And dormammu is powerful and can be a better villian than Thanos in future

[@bluehammermidget6728]

Put dormamu up dude

[@neonpressure3464]

Red skull a bad villain? At least put him on ok or good

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

@Bradyn Kerr Honestly, I would love to put Zemo up, I just felt if I had put him on the same tier as Mysterio a ton of people would get really mad. As for Ego, I dont really like him at all. Ego isn't compelling at all and is probably the main reason I dont like Guardians 2. The twist is not even that surprising. Also there's a big problem that he wasnt even the main villain until the 1.5 hour mark which is exactly 2/3 though the movie. And its way to drastic of a shift. Even though it was pretty obvious that Ego was going to be the villain, they wanted to make him super evil, and so he goes from a guy that takes naps. and plays catch, to someone that has murdered thousands of his own children, and that fact is simply glossed over.

[@eligr8523]

The scene where Thanos is dragging Gamora to the abyss and she's slapping his arm refusing to believe he loves her is the most heart wrenching scene and it makes infinity war light years ahead of any DC movie. I just simply could not care less about any DC character. That's why they've failed.

[@darrenk.2389]

Amazing that you predicted Thanos being about "the inevitability to lose", and in Endgame Thanos revolves around inevitability. Quotes like "I am inevitable" and "You couldn't live with your failures. So where did that bring you? Back to me." really shows it.

[@mochiattoart514]

The villains like Killmonger, Thanos, Loki, etc. Are really unforgettable. They're not just bad because they are short tempered psychopaths than needs to be eradicated, they have their own beliefs and reasons to do what they're doing. It gives more depth in those characters.

[@mochiattoart514]

@Ghost Arrow Fire! Right again!

[@matthewpinon8515]

8:24 Your summary of Justice League was hilariously spot-on.

[@Iceman-135]

to see it put so simply made me realise that was the entire plot of the movie. cant believe i didnt see it that way haha

[@lonestarr1490]

@@Iceman-135 Most plots could be put that simple. That alone is not the problem. In fact: if you can't put the plot of your movie that simple, _then_ you have a problem. The problem of the plot of JL is, that if put that simple, it doesn't make any sense at all.

[@cannedcereal2165]

No this version had a more realistic mouth on Superman

[@banthedrays]

yes, but what IS that theme song playing in 8bit?

[@banthedrays]

answering my own question kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIDEk4SQfblnp7s

[@DonsStudios]

The 2.7 thousand dislikes is the DC Fandom being jealous of Marvel's characters, storytelling, and most importantly their C.G.I skills. Not to mention the Stan Lee cameo. R.I.P "Excelsior"

[@DonsStudios]

@@jaybeagle8726 Fight me bitch

[@ij1372]

No it's bc of all the unfunny parts interrupting the video lol

[@alexarellano8354]

Omar Flores no it's just how cringe this guy is

[@solaceboy]

I'm sorry, but some of the effects in the MCU are bad.

[@lordvoldemort1061]

@@solaceboy yeah right...stop joking dc bitchboy

[@somethingdifferent530]

Marvel took their time to develop their story and had balanced heroes DC said “MAKE THIS MOVIE RIGHT NOW! IF YOU CANT FIGURE OUT HOW THE GOOD GUY WINS, MAKE SUPERMAN WIN IT”

[@Hanetsune]

I think one thing that Marvel did that really helps with all these points (which even extends to your Civil War and BvS video) is that they built a entire connecting universe spanning multiple movies on character introduction/development as well as interactions and relationships. To my knowledge, DC never really made any sort of consistent connecting universe or basically skipped a bunch of stuff. Either way, DC hasn't made a expansive, thought out, connecting universe as Marvel has.

[@cernozem]

I forgot the Justice League villain name as soon as I walked away from the cinema

[@XDLugia]

I never even caught it tbh.

[@SD-hg2bk]

whats his name?

[@omnibeta1876]

@@SD-hg2bk Step in wolves, i think

[@skeletonwar4445]

Yeah it's Stephanie and he wants to steal the Justice League's boxed lunches.

[@andirios333]

@@SD-hg2bk Steven Wolfe or smth

[@Kung-Fu-Kenny]

Thanos in Fortnite dancing was a perfect clip and used in the funniest possible manner. I love it. Had me waab....

[@john-olivierlukama1548]

I too would be freaked out if what I saw in my head for the last 6 years was thanos dancing fortnite dances.

[@jacobroberts1696]

Was not a fan of it

[@b_h_fs2307]

RIP OG Fortnite

[@probium2832]

Question... How did Tony Stark envision Fortnite in 2012?

[@b_h_fs2307]

probium Fortnite has been existing since 2011, so-

[@squibydoesalittletrolling]

thanos is not memorable for his motives, he's memorable for the lengths he will go toward to reach his goal. in fact his motives are worse than half the marvel villains, but his sheer determination and insanity makes him formidable, and therefore unforgetable.

[@thecaremel4821]

I saw Justice League in theatres but I’ve only now learned the villain’s name. Heck, I’ve now only learned that the villain HAS one.

[@toxic6085]

Did u watch the original version though ??

[@MrAte-uo7yo]

Maybe it's unfair to compare Justice League to Infinity War, maybe we should compare it to the first Avengers movie.(Though it probably still won't be much competition)

[@Aphridoxk]

i want to seea video about that

[@homiefromfl]

Avengers 1 is considered one of the best comic book-based movies ever. Not even Infinity War has that sort of recognition yet.

[@Nixie-O]

HEK NO Twighlight is better than JL

[@E3ECO]

Good point.

[@MrAte-uo7yo]

I mostly just meant that both movies are the first "everyone assemble" movies in their universes while Infinity War as the third and the climax to MCU thus far.

[@RoyHyrule]

"Why unite when this one guy can deal with the bad guy all by himself?" I love Superman but that's something I wonder about DC the whole time. I feel like Superman is just way too strong and the entire DCU suffers from it. It's hard to be invested in the stories of other characters when I know Superman could deal with it all if he wanted to.

[@omgmynamedoesntfi5116]

They're doing that for when Superman turns evil not that I think they're doing a good job at it

[@spacegirls16]

Right? You dont need a team if one character can solve it all lol

[@markcobuzzi826]

I did not get the sense that Superman in the DCEU was that overpowered (for the most part), and I felt that the main problem was rather that Steppenwolf himself was way too weak, compared to prior adversaries like Zod and Doomsday. (Full thoughts below) In the DCEU, Superman did at least need Batman and Wonder Woman’s help, in order to stand a chance at beating Doomsday, since Diana’s magic-based weapons and Bruce Wayne’s weaponized Kryptonite were the only things that could really hurt the monster. When Superman was resurrected, I got the sense that most of the league members were holding back because they just wanted to have Superman come to his senses, not kill him. I imagine it is basically the same reason why Batman managed to defeat Superman head-on quite easily, in the prior movie, when Clark did not want to kill Bruce. Now I did feel like it made Flash look too useless compared to Superman, when his main defining characteristic is his super-speed, yet Superman could effortlessly keep up with him (unless this was just the result of Flash being a novice and not exerting his powers and abilities to their fullest potential). Now with Steppenwolf, his low power level was a similar problem I had with Loki and the Chitauri in the first Avengers film. Both Loki and Steppenwolf did seem like worthy threats for some of the Avengers/League, yet characters like the Hulk and Superman could pretty much turn them into rag-dolls, and the Chitauri/Parademons felt like threats that even a normal military force could fight. Therefore, I never got the feeling that either the Avengers or the Justice League could lose, and that the only real challenge was just saving as many people as they could in the middle of the battle. HOWEVER, what made me more willing to overlook this issue in the Avengers was that Loki himself was still an interesting character, who was enjoyable to watch, had that established depth and backstory with Thor, and shared some good interaction with the other Avengers. On the other hand, Steppenwolf has “mastered the ability... of being so incredibly dull... that he became invisible to the mind”. Also, Loki and the Chitauri army was still the biggest and most destructive threat faced in the MCU yet, so it was still exciting for me to see in the theaters. With the DCEU, however, we already saw Superman stop General Zod and his army of Kryptonians in his debut film, only to then follow that up by fighting Doomsday, one of his toughest opponents in DC Comics, while only needing help from Batman and Wonder Woman. Because Warner Bros. already blew a massive load with Zod and Doomsday, Steppenwolf and his army just felt like more of the same, only even easier to defeat, without the entire Justice League.

[@spacegirls16]

The main theme of the movie was for them to unite together to defeat an enemy, they even have that song with the come together lyrics in their trailer, then the movie comes out, and I didn't get a sense of togetherness they are trying to deliver from these promos, it just takes one person to defeat an enemy! Seriously what's the need of forming a team? Imo superman also feels too op at times for me to take a justice league team seriously, going by logic there is no need for a team formed in this dc world knowing there's a guy who is excellent in every way, and can travel back in time in case there are fuck ups, and something doesn't go his way (he has time travel power too lol), his only weakness is some rock, he is so op, and unrelatable at that I honestly found most dc characters to be so unrelatable, there is also that green lantern guy who can create anything with a magic ring, and is kinda op too, but his weakness is literally the color yellow lol

[@spacegirls16]

Call me a marvel shill if you want, I don't care, but the strength in marvel is that their characters are so human, and relatable, heck even their godly characters are relatable as hell there is this saying that DC heroes are gods, and people we look up to, and want to be when we were kids, but marvel heroes are like the actual mirror of us, more human with the same struggles just trying to manage their lives while given a power.

[@s-zz]

8:35 idk why, but the fact that he made Cyborg "white" makes it 10 times funnier

[@hihi-nm3uy]

3:58 you see, it isnt just your channel. it isnt review channels - no in all of youtube for a very long time, i have never laughed like i had when i saw that sequence i sounded like i was genuinely suffering