Why Is Drifting In Simulators So Hard?

[@MuYe]

Still can't believe The Rock helped me make this video

[@eeroa3625]

The wock🍜🍱 🪨 Edit:mom im famous

[@theoutdoorpenguin]

Lol

[@Berwyn.Heisey]

Hmm

[@ihavenoidea7708]

Bruh

[@b16yas]

Oh did he?

[@MonKeeith]

1:25 That Assetto to BeamNG transition was so smooth I almost didn't notice

[@MuYe]

Was afraid no one would notice after all that effort lmao

[@erixccjc2143]

@@MuYe mindfucked me a shit ton but yeah props

[@kahki2704]

Indeed

[@notarobotto]

i didnt notice it until i read this comment

[@officialjook]

common muye/keith w

[@ravensharpless]

Learning how to drift on my wheel sim saved my life. Once I got into a bad situation on the road muscle memory kicked right in and I was able to keep control over the car, it almost felt like magic

[@aletron4750]

Me too, I live in Fairbanks Alaska where the roads are covered in 2+ inches of ice 8 months out of the 12, drifting in sims taught me how to properly recover from spins or grip losses while driving on the ice

[@Coles-bootleg-vids]

Sim experience possibly save mine and my family's lives when we got in an accident recently, the reaction speed that you get from having to time things in super fast cars going 120+ mph.

[@townfuneral4564]

had the same thing happen to me like maybe 2 weeks ago, its funny too bc before then I've only attempted a drift irl a handful of times bc i have a somewhat rare car and i am TERRIFIED of smashing it into a tree, i felt like ken block, some dude who saw the whole thing pulled up next to me at the red light and gave me a thumbs up, was an amazing feeling

[@townfuneral4564]

@@Coles-bootleg-vids funny you should say that bc most of my reaction time has come from fps shooters and has thankfully saved me on a number of occasions

[@limmp4n196]

You are very right about drifting being harder in game than real life. I had never drifted a real car when I was 14 but had plenty of playtime on assetto with my wheel. First time I tried drifting with a real car was with a BMW E30 on ice with wrc tires. It was a whole lot easier than I thought because you could really feel the car compared to only having a wheel and a shifter. Much more fun irl too. Had a BMW 523 last winter as my own "drift car". :D

[@Kitty-Kattindustries]

6:42 : “Drifting in games is harder than real life”. THAT IS 100% TRUE Ong! From personal experience you have a lot more feedback IRL than in games because you understand what the car is doing and what it is going to go IRL. But In games, those factors are little to none.

[@MuYe]

Finally, my shield against criticism is here

[@raulignaciohdz.7189]

But there's one little tiny insignificant thing with drifting in real life...... If you crash, you either die, or get a huge debt.

[@rednack9961]

@@raulignaciohdz.7189 then don't crash

[@bread-gz3rl]

@@raulignaciohdz.7189 nah man just get outta the 500$ ranger and beat the dents out with a sledgehammer and keep goin

[@loganlovelace1045]

You can feel senses such as the g forces, body roll, or especially adrenaline. You just can’t get that from your eyes when drifting in games.

[@adgefreeman6091]

The real problem isn't lacking just skill but it's also lacking knowledge. I feel as though once you start understanding what's actually happening when you're drifting it really helps a lot.

[@Da_Osta]

One vital disadvatage of drifting in games is that you don't get the funny "drifting your bed after a night out with the boys" phenomenon. I consider this vital to the whole drift life experience...

[@MuYe]

Having sailed and went back to land many times, I know exactly what you’re talking about

[@cmbaileytstc]

As a kid on the ranch I used to dream all night I was riding a horse (sometimes combined with the falling and hitting your mattress dream sensation) after long days of horse riding.

[@Thechildishmandingo]

Lol I’ve experienced this as a skateboarder. Start falling asleep while thinking about tricks and jerk myself awake trying to kick flip in my sleep 😂

[@CrispyMuffin2]

If you mean the swaying feeling you get in bed after you've been on a boat for a few days, it is indeed an important feature to experience

[@trolleyracingmaster7075]

That happened to me as a kid after friends birthday parties with bouncy castles lol, I’d feel like I was hopping all night

[@Wolvahulk]

6:40 as someone with a drivers license, I think driving in general (at least in sim games like Assetto Corsa, BeamNG etc.) is way harder in games than it is irl, most likely due to the fact that in real life you get physical feedback from the car, you can feel it out, while in games it's pretty much only up to your knowledge and dexterity.

[@blackwersus]

You're correct. Also in my experience many people don't have the feel of any cars IRL either. Which is seen on all the stupid crashes that they cause. It's like some people are instinctually stunted and shouldn't be operating any vehicles because they drive like with a keyboard and mouse.

[@subgivtara]

Can your car drift?

[@rse617]

​@@blackwersusIve been saying this for years to. I have a magical ass capable of feeling minute changes in road surface, the car feels like an extension of my body. I feel what it feels through my ass in the seat and hands through the wheel, feel the motor through the pedals. Then you get in the car with some people and and its like they have zero connection and very little control.

[@gcolombelli]

​@@rse617funny thing, I've always had a hard time maintaining level flight and making coordinated turns in flight sims, but as soon as I started my IRL practical lessons on a plane, it was a non-issue. Turns out, your senses all work together to give you a better feel of what's happening and relying only on sight and hearing can really throw you off. I tried simracing on a motion platform once, but I have no idea if it was a good setup or a junk one. It was confusing as hell, using rotation to simulate acceleration is not quite the same thing, after some minutes I gave up, as it felt like I was going to start experiencing motion sickness any minute... and that's from a guy who used to be a co-driver / navigator on TSD rally.

[@blackwersus]

@@rse617 exactly yup

[@alekschannelftw]

After thousands of hours of sim drifting, and well over a thousand laps of drifting irl the past 5 years or so, I can confirm that drifting is easier in real life. I've been developing mods for Assetto Corsa since it was released, but Beamng has huge potential for being the best game to drift on, so I am currently working on some mods that are made to actually drive well as opposed to what currently exists in beamng.

[@watema3381]

Mind linking to your mod catalogue?

[@sparkshusky2482]

Ooooh I’d be super interested in some drift mods on beamng. There doesn’t seem to be many out there.

[@Dynoids]

One thing about games vs real life is the sound. A lot of games fail to properly communicate speed. Speed is already hard to determine in sims, so the sound design just makes another one of your senses struggle. To sum up, many racing games don't have road noise or the sound of bumps on the tracks to communicate speed instinctually like in real life.

[@llHllAllRllSllHll]

good cuz the jbx is getting boring i need more cars and tuning. mostly beam drift myself but its getting old

[@zchris87v80]

Would love to see this as I absolutely suck at driving in video games and have never tried drifting, as my goal IRL is to keep my car on the road and maintain traction. Would like to “get the hang of it” in BeamNG before I slap a spare set of rear tires on my z car and see what happens.

[@Ihelpanytime]

I created this quote in my mind: “I am not a good drifter, but drifting is good”

[@schmid1.079]

Small note for Assetto Corsa. Some of the drift cars have traction control enabled by default, which is obviously counterproductive when you want to go sideways.

[@socks2441]

for real? but if you have traction control turned off in the settings that wont happen, right?

[@schmid1.079]

@@socks2441 No, thats for enabling TC in cars that dont have it in reality. For cars that have TC in real life its still enabled. You have to disable it in the setup or with the TC up/down buttons.

[@zuminlair92cp]

well...newer BMW M5 has drift mode that use TC to aid driver for beautiful drifting...

[@user-fe7bo5mm1o]

​@zuminlair92cp so cars are gonna drift themselves now

[@blackwersus]

@@zuminlair92cp wow that's sad

[@kadzzzz6177]

5:38 you should've also included Live For Speed. a very old and underrated game but still one of the best simulator games out there for lo spec pc gamers. this game taught me a lot about drifting and i as able to carry out the skillset to games like assetto corsa very easily.

[@itzsyclone]

MuYe releases his inner Lightning Mcqueen for the sake of this video

[@MuYe]

All definitely done in one take too

[@fragiquerence]

here in russia we have a thing which is winter drifting on a fiat 124 successors (classic rwd models of Lada). You take one of those, weld a diff, slap tuned front arms in it for better steering angle (there is aftermarket for this lol), rip off a handbrake locking button and at the frozen lake outside of a city you go (some mess around in a city itself, dont do that). And yes, after a few hours you gonna drift, no problem. Also this car costs less than direct drive steering wheel alone, not to mention a seat, shifter, handbrake and actual gaming pc. Drifting on ice is slower than drifting on a dry of course, but everything except speed is the same and yes, it is easier than do something similar in a simulator.

[@Xucoxucuri]

Video idea: do some Touge races, imagine the chaos when 8 idiots race on a narrow course.

[@AIM-9X_Sidewinder]

u achieved perfection

[@theporgwholived9606]

nice

[@thenitropower]

Yess!

[@IamIanOficial]

Nah, monaco gp would be even better 🤡🤡

[@Eggyteevee]

[ c o o l v i b r a t I o n s ]

[@CheukNamSiu]

I think the key to being good at drifting, is to first learn how to drive at the limit. Race until you reach the limit of your car, if your car is prone to under steering, you will quickly learn how to perform weight transfer and be good at lift off oversteer. If your car is prone to oversteer, you will quickly learn how to control it's slip angle and make use of the rotation to gain speed. Once you get used to that, drifting is not a deliberate move, it becomes part of manipulating the dynamics of the car.

[@NexuJin]

Quite true. I find myself now quite often drifting the Adenauer Forst corner in AC when pushing for a fast lap time on Nordschleife, that while playing AC with a controller.

[@chasechildress2720]

Is nobody gonna talk how this man drifted a literal bolder.

[@cybersteel8]

THAT'S A NICE BOULDER

[@mode3763]

That's not just a bolder. IT'S A ROCK!

[@leonardterlevic4765]

2:26 The song is tevvez-legend if anyone's wondering

[@vthegoose]

As someone who has drifted my sedan but can’t drift in a game to save my life, yes it’s harder in games

[@BraaapMachineSam]

Same but with fully sized suburban

[@ichwill7536]

I've put my 2500 ram side ways a few times. Games are way harder

[@anon515]

get a direct drive wheel

[@socks2441]

1. irl drifting we are happy when we just do a mildly controlled powerslide (not a real drift) 2. in sims you dont have gforce so you dont know the car has broken loose/ is sideways until its too late. 3. real life is real life, video games are video games so its hard for us to use real life techniques in games. we approach it as a game and games should be easy. 4. oh well, practice gets us better, VR helps a LOT. and its sort of fun, and does transfer over to real life to an extent if you wanted to do it as safe practice.

[@exauce8311]

i remember when i started drifting in ac the pain and frustration was real i wanted to destroy my wheel and quit but after 1 month of suffering i started to understand the feeling and it became so obvious .For people who want to drift in ac start with default drift car don't download any car mods it was my first mistake and also don't quit everyone have been trough the same pain .good luck .sorry for bad english btw

[@MuYe]

AC is unnecessarily hard at the beginning hahaha Some people make the mistake of download mods with easy physics, like Slide Boizz 💀

[@joebloe4949]

Ton anglais est correct inquiète toi pas

[@SoenHyx]

I agree, got a similar experience. Don't give up, you'll get there.

[@bielak3228]

When I first started drifting in AC I was drifting with like 1% force feedback G29, crashing, spining everywhere and I didnt know what I was doing wrong. Then I tweaked some settings and everything became so much better. Now I am good at drifting and I can even drift with my di...

[@xsham6224]

STAY AWAY FROM TANDOBUDDIES i see way too many peoples download their cars, then hop on vanilla servers and go wreckless

[@throttlebuddies6356]

I have always had a harder time drifting in game than in real life. When drifting a real car you can feel how the car behaves much better, which cant be translated well through force feedback even on direct drive models. i even have difficulties drifting just one long corner in games, while in the real world, holding a drift and even linking corners isnt a big issue. BUT: Drifting in game translates very well into real life, if you can drift in a sim, you wont find it hard to drift a real car.

[@CobraDBlade]

You can somewhat simulate the g-forces if you get a motion rig for your seat, but that can only really give you the sensation of the initial movements or changes in direction.

[@Nco64]

and they cost a fortune

[@CobraDBlade]

@@Nco64 Some do. I remember seeing a relatively inexpensive one being featured in videos a few years ago that was under 1k

[@vaenii5056]

@@Nco64 Less than 15 grand for 6 degrees of motion with good and fast actuators. It is expensive but it is not _that_ expensive especially when you can build it gradually over the years. Still cheaper than racing in real life and as a bonus you can drive when you are drunk... in your living room... never having to get your hands dirty and shiver at unheated garage during winter. Not sure if I would buy one myself, but certainly the vast majority of normal working people could afford a good motion platform if they so desire albeit at the cost of something else. It depends on what your priorities in life are.

[@DeltaInsanity]

@@vaenii5056 do you know of a specific model that's good in that price range? I'll admit I haven't really done much research, but I have heard some people say the only motion rigs that are truly "worth it" are upwards of $30-50k.

[@vaenii5056]

@@DeltaInsanity Check out PT-Actuators. They offer complete packages with everything you need, instructions how to assemble the motion platform and so on. I think they also offer warranty which is obviously a plus even though you are unlikely to need it. Another option is to go full DIY route. For example Matthias Fulczyk's motion platform that uses SXF-100 actuators cost around 12 000 dollars according to him. There are also some other options, but I don't know much about them. I think you may be able to find used first generation D-Box as well, but I have heard they are really expensive and difficult to upgrade as the ecosystem is closed.

[@WhatComesAroundTM]

I agree, drifting in sims is much harder than irl. Part of it is the added fear of consequences if you get too much angle in a school zone. Nothing beats that thrill.

[@orim-my4pf]

6:25 Euro truck simulator soundtrack One of my favourite 😂

[@NFSHeld]

NFS Undercover was super cool for drifting with keyboard. Since it was meant to be an arcade game rather than a simulation, the game engine would actually help you with drifting. You would tap the break and then steer into the turn, and it would fling around the trunk and "lock" you in a drift, where you could control the angle/tightness with taps to left/right keys until you briefly let go of the acceleration. This worked even for cars that in reality would have a hard time drifting, like Lamborghinis with 4 wheel drive. They called this artificial assistant "Heroic Driving Engine" and it would also support you on maneuvers like U- or J-turns. So if you are into drifting but only have a keyboard, I can recommend that game to you.

[@gamereggo]

I learned to go through the pain of learning to drift with a keyboard

[@MuYe]

Are you the real Giga Chad?

[@gamereggo]

@@MuYe Yes 😎

[@roadsidegarage69]

same lol i can drift better with a keyboard or controller than a wheel

[@erixccjc2143]

I'd recommend switching to mouse steering. It took me like 50-100 hours to get kinda decent at it but it's worth it. I was alredy good on controller and my pain was unmeasurable throughout the learning phase, but it's just cool

[@angelsfallfirst7348]

Same

[@thecrims0nguy101]

1:18 okay nice one my snigga

[@IamIanOficial]

MuYe in 2020: "How to drift" MuYe in 2022: "Why you suck at drifting" *Things took a sharp turn, didn't it?*

[@distancezero3475]

Ja (yes)

[@Paul_Bedford]

Or rather the turn wasn't taken at all.

[@Crxw2Tired]

ba dum tss

[@gokalpcetin2769]

this feels stolen from SunlessKhan, with his series of `Why you suck at Rocket League`

[@memeisherenow]

from this information, it would be his fault that you suck at drifting

[@EZCCW]

I started learning how to drift after seeing Tokyo Drift in theaters 18 years ago. I got a good FFB wheel, some of the best sims of the time (LFS, rFactor, original Forza Motorsport and the sequel), and put TONS of time into learning how to make a car go sideways. Took several years to get decent at it, but once I did, drifting in real life came naturally to me. First time I ever went sideways in the snow, the counter steering was instinctual from all of the hours I put into learning how to drift in sims. I even learned how to drive stick before ever getting my learner's permit. You will get out of it what you put in, if you want to get good, just keep at it and don't give up when it doesn't seem to come to you right away. It's all about understanding and anticipating what the car is going to do, and how to control it, all will come with practice.

[@kip258]

Thanks for this video. This really helped me improve in MarioKart. :)

[@Pistonreturnspring]

We’re all gonna make it brahs!!

[@notactuallyreal.]

1:39 Bro was really sliding the ooga booga 500

[@BellaBau-g4o]

underrated comment

[@omerbayraktar1953]

I'm so proud of myself that i can drift with any car in BeamNG, even if it's a big heavy car, supercar, FWD or AWD it doesn't matters. All comes to the practice and patience, wheel settings also plays a big role. Start with low angle (Dont go below 540 degrees) then slowly increse as you improve. Also do not set the force feedback to high, no real car makes steering too hard to turn while sliding. For RWD cars: Best tip i can give you is to don't hold the wheel too tight, let it move as your car gains angle and balance it with your throttle. At first you will start to see yourself spinning out to the other direction, so don't be too aggressive when initiating a slide, turn with less steering angle and gradually increase throttle input until you start to slide then let the wheel countersteer itself and the car will quickly catch itself practice little powerslides like that until you get comfortable. Cars with longer wheelbase will help you because they gain angle more progressively. For the rest just experiment at gridmap or any open area, you will learn a lot by yourself.

[@zykotec]

I can confirm drifting is easer in real life than in games btw. (partially depending on set up, sitting in a full moving rig helps) . That being said, practicing drifting is a lot cheaper in games than in real life.

[@theporgwholived9606]

Can confirm, im his car

[@OK-sw4jy]

Can confirm, I am in his car trunk. (help)

[@offensiveexplosion]

Can confirm, I'm his cc

[@firefox3073]

1:45 what the bmw rock doin

[@AleksandrRudiak]

Also: Clutch is neccesary Clutch gives traction on rears meaning makes less rotation but you're going outside Clutch kick brakes traction on rears Less power on rears gives more traction and less rotation More power on rears pushes you inside but also gives more rotation On a handbrake you're losing speed but same time makes you go further on inertia More angle means you're going to inside quickly and loosing speed Less angle you're going to outside and speed up Brakes mostly for fronts and brakes slow you down but also add rotation Playing with brakes you can make the curve shorter and more curved especialy staying on throttle So basically just imagine the car like two points of traction with road (back and rear), figure out where inertia leads you and think about how inputs will change your traction (and speed and direction of spinning) on both fronts and rears and what it does do your line, speed, angle

[@AleksandrRudiak]

Handbrake also increases or decreases the angle only depending on steering input. If you want to maintain same angle you was in before pulling it you should steer to inside a bit more

[@drifthetics8274]

@@AleksandrRudiak I see you got experience because this is what drifting is! Once you understand all these point and practice enough you can be god

[@vycanismelodis]

well darn my wheel doesnt have a clutch pedal

[@AleksandrRudiak]

@@vycanismelodis find something to bind it or there's a lot of standalone pedals you can buy for clutch.

[@LucekV12]

100% TRUE here

[@sdvtpplbcn]

fully agree. i am currently making mods for beamng that focus directly on making drifting better, ie more realistic feeling and tuning meaning its easier than the standard parts. i have ETKI drift mod out now (bacons etki drift parts on the repo) and have 200bx on in process ;)

[@jonfinityy]

the timing of this video could not be better, I just got off AC frustrated asf cuz I cant drift. Thanks MuYe.

[@schizophreniagaming4058]

Hey man, I'm not too good at drifting, but what I have learned to watch for was mainly pedal control and knowing when to catch the wheel for the drift. So, let me begin A. Pedal control Pedal control mainly consists of trying to get the power to the rear wheels not just consistent, but also right for the corner you're taking. Start off with first slowly letting the throttle on, and slowly letting the throttle off. Do this for about 5 times while going around the track to see the amount of slip your car has. Also, when you do slip, relax your hands and let the wheel spin freely. B. Catching the wheel When you know the power and have a good idea of when the car will slip based on throttle control, catching the wheel is what comes next. You will need to make sure you have good and consistent throttle control to actually drift. But nonetheless, onward with the wheel. You will need to try and estimate the angle of your drift to the angle of the curve. If you can do that, you will put some power down to try and make sure you can. You might not need much, going from 20%-60% throttle most of the time, and also speed is another part of it. If you have too much speed at the end of a gear, you won't slip and therefore not drift. But back to it. The throttle control is very important if you have too little/much speed, as too little speed and spinning wheels will mean you will need about 20% throttle to keep it mostly stable. If you have the right amount of throttle, you will not just keep the drift stable, but be able to adjust your angle if the turn widens/sharpens.

[@Turboto56]

4:10 thats why are the tutorials 💀.Also love ur channel man.

[@jlco]

3:14 Mouse steering makes drifting way easier in BeamNG, especially with driver camera view with camera inertia enabled (and a little horizon lock). Using it with orbit or chase is not quite so helpful, as you can't see the steering wheel at all, and the point of using a mouse is to make input more similar to a steering wheel (because I'm too broke for a wheel). Mouse steering should also be accompanied by analog inputs for pedals if you have a controller- I use LT for brakes, LS up for throttle, and LB for handbrake, with mouse 4/5 for shifts. If you don't have a controller, you may want to resort to keyboard for pedals, as binding it to the mouse Y axis makes it hard to keep throttle steady while moving steering (or vice versa). Mouse should be on wheel/direct binding for steering- if inputs aren't smooth, that's on you (or your mouse is actually garbage and you should have spent like $20 on a decent mouse)

[@bluey-next777]

SEEK HELP IF YOUR A MOUSE STEERING* *limited to one help per decade, terms and conditions apply, if you suck at mouse steering THEN DEAL WITH IT

[@CrashD6]

An interesting thing I've learned on my own with sim racing, drifting is very hard to learn, but quite easy to master, as opposed to grip driving/time attack, which looks easy to learn, but f0cking INSANE to master!

[@michaelbuckers]

You can actually simulate most forces (i.e. the car feel) using a motion simulator such as Stewart platform. You'll have to DIY one though because commercially available ones charge an arm and a leg.

[@MrTurbo_]

1:39 A nice, first time seeing the BMW M Rock in the wild, that advertisement almost convinced me to buy one

[@PlaaasmaMC]

If nothing else this video motivated me to actually try and get better instead of smashing my head into a wall after spinning out once

[@MuYe]

Took me about a week to understand what I was doing in Assetto Corsa, and even though I was no where near good or consistent, it felt really rewarding

[@PlaaasmaMC]

@@MuYe how does assetto corsa compare to beamng in terms of realism? My goal is to get really good in beamng but perhaps assetto could be a good starting point

[@TimmWebbYT]

I’ve gotten pretty good at drifting recently, and I believe there is no room for improvement, for I use keyboard

[@waldolemmer]

I learned nothing from this video, and I don't even have a sim setup

[@rogueroger0]

Starting with gaming and moving into real cars has made it a lot better for me, at home i got a pretty good sim setup, but its so much easier to through my car around in the snow

[@DeeThief]

Sounds like a clear skill issue

[@MuYe]

BXHIAHWNGJSUHABE

[@davisdf3064]

Wtf dude you absolutely killed him

[@ziqrsx]

@@davisdf3064 your honour, he is rolling on the floor, laughing. laughing his ass of, if you will.

[@totalhydration5240]

@@ziqrsx lmaoing, some might say

[@cozz124]

this is factual

[@Azbot46]

7:00 that yaris drift was smooth AS FU-

[@EddyThron]

3:56 man, I’ve killed four mosquitoes in my room tonight and that engine sound got me fucking triggered I thought there was a fifth one

[@water_is_wet]

lol

[@ohnaw223]

dude ive been watching since like 30k subs ur vid quality has increased an insane amount keep it up

[@yourlocalrobloxanimator]

0:02 lets just appreciate that this whole video is created in a wheel

[@ghostlyninja125]

6:44 actual facts this man spitting straight truth this entire video

[@Hassan-rg7tz]

And these values were with the help of my rocks I had always relied on to give ratings like this

[@archygrey9093]

@6:42 100% YES, not just with drifting but other forms of racing too.

[@HotRod05]

I taught myself how to drift in a RB swapped 180sx with 300-400 hp on Forza Motorsport 7. Note I was on a wheel when I was learning and am only able to drift on FM7. I am very much still a beginner

[@CheckpointJapan]

Awesome video! Just saw you used (and credited) our footage from Mountain Drifting 3, too cool. ✌🏻

[@VinayVerma-el7ie]

Probably because I dont own a car...

[@carlsojos]

Probably the best part of real-world drifting is how every car has its own personality. Commuter cars tend to have a bit of a soft touch from the power steering being biased toward gentler drivers, Miatas tend to have a big band of forgiveness between skid and ditch that you can reel back in from, and I've even had the pleasure to experience of a psychotic Fiero that would take a patch of gravel on the pavement as an excuse to try to murder you.

[@mytoastvanished]

4:20, i think i remember a roblox game looking like this. Can someone tell me if this actually is roblos?

[@crazydave1]

its not

[@stlchucko]

I always drove high powered RWD cars in games like GT1 and 2 and Forza Motorsports 1 and 2, so I was accustomed to massive oversteer. The biggest challenge when it came to drifting was leaving the rear hanging out for entire corners and connecting the corners. Forza M3 is when I started getting into drifting hardcore. My friends were already really into it, and I wanted to drift with them. I essentially learned to drift on Amalfi (Positano in FM4) in a RWD 300C Chrysler… big car on a short tight course with multiple track surfaces. I started experimenting with the tune; more negative camber and adding toe. After 2-4 weeks, I made my way up the leaderboard… Top 500 turned into 100, and eventually to the top 10. Then I started hitting other tracks, and they seemed easy to get really high scores thanks to cutting my teeth on a fairly hard track. It led to competition between my friends and I. In the end, 3 of us were breaking into the top 10 overall RWD drift leaderboard (all track scores combined). I eventually made it my mission to be #1 on Amalfi; which happened a number of times. I’d get it, someone would get higher, and I’d come back to beat them again (talking about you Mon Canard, lol) We did the same on FM4.

[@Andrew9565-AD]

1:33 that’s some serious constipation. You should see a doctor

[@bluey-next777]

6:04 For my game library: Most arcadey: the crew 2 Most simulationy: grid legends (thanks PS plus leek)

[@mrcheesecake2189]

im not gonna lie the rock drifting caught me severely off guard

[@LucasLovesTrucks]

Muye actually gives out good advice, thought I would never see this

[@StephenBanyar]

High-pitched Mai Yamane's Tasogare at 4:55, very nice!

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

6:40 True. For one point ; internal ear Your human body (or anything else) is equipped with an internal G-force feedback sensor ! Incredible !

[@felipeferreira00]

As a mouse drifter, a can say that yes, it is kinda weird in the beggining, but i is better than a keyboard. That's why a play most of the games using the mouse to steer, accelerate, and brake.

[@cesarpalmos8235]

When you look up tutorials on how to drift and you find a video telling you to look up tutorials on how to drift: Good job ex-engineer, problem solving Italian man. Subscribed.

[@katana9873]

First 2 minutes into the video and I already feel like this guy deserves a sub.

[@0xGRIDRUNR]

4:33 damn bro you didnt have to do us like that

[@Astra_Life1]

I spent my teenage years watching drift pov videos with wheel and foot cams then tried sims and killed it then tried it in a real car and it felt easier than in sims you feel a lot more in a car then just looking at a flat screen

[@danieljones7843]

6:39 I actually agree since I can’t feel the car’s movements in my chair like I can in my car seat. I can feel things like the car gaining and losing traction through my arse.

[@gabrielgiron4273]

@4:55 when the Pissy Pamper song came on, I freaked out bc that instrumental part is my ring tone for the past 4 years

[@SALEENS7GTR5]

I just bypassed the videogame aspect and actually, really bought a drift missile to practice. Nurburgring fail compilation, here I come!

[@ikondrift]

There is surprisingly a lot of correct information and good takes in this video, considering the author admits he is bad at drifting in a sim and never did it IRL. Well done.

[@therangercast5206]

Growing up we always had 4 wheelers so drifting came to me really early and easy, my first car was a 1988 lincoln and ill never forget that first winter I dont think i was ever in a straight line lol.

[@TalooshDaBoss]

Mouse steering is goated af! Just use it for a couple hours and remember to return the wheel to the center after a turn (need interior cam) and keep the sensitivity on the low side with a big mouse pad, some practice and you can control it super well

[@FNXDCT]

i love how you stretch the video x) nice vid

[@BionicBurke]

Funny that you mentioned CarX.. honestly, I love actual grip racing in that game with a controller. It has it's major issues but the actual driving feels far better than Forza does anymore.

[@floppenzo331]

i love it how Muye uses ETS2 and farming Simulator 19 sondtracks 😄

[@Darnihx]

I dont that often drift in games/simulators but from my experience its a lot easier to do in real life. While behind the wheel of a real car you can feel whats happening and I at least know what to do and how to keep it in control, just feels more natural

[@IchBinDerJesko]

This made me laugh a few times...great video. Keep it up

[@Bobis32]

the biggest things for me when going into a sim vs real life are, Pedal Feel your throttle and brake pedals give feedback that sims cant replicate, 2 sound the engine revs are so important to maintaining a drift being able to listen to the engine instead of looking at gages is a life send 3rd wheel feedback as your loosing grip it becomes easier to turn the wheel and its left out in most sims if your steering is getting easier lay off the trottle a little

[@LeitoAE]

Fun fact. I cannot drift using steering wheel in any game or a sim, but when I was a teen-age kid I could drift using mouse in LFS. In my opinion mouse is way better than keyboard and pad as it gives you much better feel of steering. I even did my best lap times doing time attacks using mouse. One key disadvantage is that throttle, brake and e-brake are controlled in 0-1 mode. Actually while doing time attacks I used e-brake as a way to eliminate understeer in the middle of the corners. Sick technique that applies only to mouse steering in LFS. Unfortunately LFS is the only game that has the mouse steering done well. Any other game gives me that "non-direct" feeling. Also second and most important reason why I can not do it anymore so often is that with age it started to really hurt my wrist and pointing finger, that is being used for throttle. It hurts because unlike in any other type of game here you mostly press and hold the throttle. The one and only hope for me is time and practice - I have spent tons of hours on playing on mouse as a teenager and now I expect results on a steering wheel just after 1 or 2 hours. That is not right and it really takes time, practice and patience to develop proper muscle reactions. In most cases we know what we messed up and how to prevent it. It is just that delicate difference in proper reaction and it's timing that is missing and it requires experience.

[@milos1336]

Ets2 music is peak cinema

[@focussport]

I have drifted recreationally for over a decade now, have built multiple cars, and currently own an LS powered FD, all of which are zero problem to hold a drift (maintain opposite lock with throttle inputs), and I'm LUCKY if I hold anything close to a decent little skid in GT7. I gave up thinking IRL drifting and game drifting have anything to do with each other long ago. Still fun tho.

[@VAL1SYST3M]

Thank you for saying this. I've been thinking it for so long. Coming from someone who has drifted irl

[@camruncarr]

Also get a heavy desk. Sometimes when i need to correct angle mid drift i pick mine up and throw it across the room on accident

[@StrayGuitarist]

As someone who has lots of experience drifting in real life, and next to none in video games, I had gotten really frustrated at constantly throwing an AE86 into a wall in BeamNG, but had never actually considered the lack of "feel" until now.

[@_-J.]

Funfact: drifting in real life is easier than in games. Except if all you have to do is to press the "drift Button". Only game that comes really close to real drifting is Carxdrift, there could be other games but with my 26 years it's the only game I personally played that comes really close to real life drifting. People asked me in my carxdrift streams on how to get better. "learn how to drift in real life lmao" Jokes aside. All I can say is train, train, train, training makes the master. Clutching, sterring and all that comes down to your own drifting style and the cars handling plus it's tuning. Some like high pressure tires, some low pressure. Some put their brakes in the middle others more in the front. I prefer it over 70% on the back. Getting good at drifting is like with everything else. The more often you do it, the better you get at it, the more natural it feels to you. That's why I mostly drift without Handbrake, feelsore natural to me. Most people only drift with Handbrake, because it's like the "drift Button". But in real life just pulling the Handbrake and sterring can lead to a bad crash. It works in games, cause it's a game mechanic. These mechanics are made to make fun and the Player engaged. But it's what kills the drifting in almost every game for me. Because I'm like "yooo I can drift in real life why does it feel so weird in these games and I crash?" now that I got myself carxdrift... Huiii am I happy about that I just can implement real life stuff, even the dynostand tuning is realistic. And as one last big tip for drifting: you need to enter the" flow state". It's what they talk about in initial d one or two times, how he just can slide thru a whole corner, completely relaxed. Because in his mind he's already in the next corner... I can't explain the drift flow state very well, people who have it themselfs know what I'm talking about. And for those who don't, I'm pretty sure there are tutorials on YT for it. This "flowstate" can be implement in all different types of life situation. Basically it's a form of meditation that keeps you calm and let's you turn of the thinking. You basically just do things instead of thinking and then doing them like you usually do. An example: Most people go like "OK there is a sharp sharp turn. That means I have to steer here in that ankle, brake there, and in between shift" The flowstate is more like "oh a corner, and another one, hm time for a cigarette, there we go I liked that one. Could have gone more out tho, nevermind, Now let's shift up, and we're almost at the finish line."

[@DriftNick]

"Only game that comes really close to real drifting is Carxdrift" Best joke I've heard today. "That's why I mostly drift without Handbrake" With 70% brakes to the rear you pretty much are using the handbrake lol. " But in real life just pulling the Handbrake and sterring can lead to a bad crash." wut

[@_-J.]

@@DriftNick I only answer to one statement because you don't seem like the brightest lightbulb. Instead of giving me examples on why I am wrong in your opinion or something like that. You more or less behave like a child pointing your finger at me. Okay one more thing, tell someone who doesn't really know how to handle a car in a situation like this "use the Handbrake to drift, just steer in that's what the pros do" they will crash, that is just a fact. Have a nice day on reddit or wherever you dwell around.

[@jakubzak2997]

gotta love the 'How its Made' background music...

[@janvasicek8843]

one thing that helped me the most is this: Keep your wheel pointed where you want to go (in a drift you counter-steer but the wheels are still pointing in the right direction)

[@cosmic8713]

this man can make a burp into a beat i just know it

[@rolux4853]

I have a bmw e36 track car with a tuned i6, limited slip diff and pretty good suspension. I can drift it very controlled and almost never spin it. In AC I’m spinning out all the time, it’s just missing so much information! And I gave pretty much the best sim racing parts you can get, I’m only missing motion sim at the moment. I was even somewhat better drifting with my Logitech g923 on my desk then now my Fanatec podium in the rig with triple screens/VR. That’s why I stopped caring about drifting in games and only race. Racing is super fun with this equipment! But the entry level direct drive wheels from Fanatec and moza are 95% the same, so only get the high end stuff if you have enough disposable income. Otherwise you burn money you can use for much better things, like eating good food or saving towards your own home!

[@Skele_pime]

I love the cut transitions where cars get destroyed and cut

[@1whospeaks]

You gotta know the car. Assetto to me is about speed, so I always like to humble myself after a good Corsa drive by opening BeamNG, trying to go that fast in a Charger, then turning the car into paste when I inevitably lose control. Reminds me to be extremely careful on my spirited driving days.