Why Men Leave Good Women All The Time

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Ismael Gomez III

Ismael Gomez III

Күн бұрын

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@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 17 күн бұрын
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@leonaangelique34
@leonaangelique34 17 күн бұрын
Hello Ismael! Quick note, I am watching your videos and not only does it help me personally but I am learning to better help my Godson. As he reaches dating age I wish to be there for him if he asks me for help. I do not want my own circumstances to affect this. If you have any insight into helping the next generation of men I am happy to listen. Thank you for your videos.
@OceanFrontVilla3
@OceanFrontVilla3 8 күн бұрын
He leaves because he is getting better sex elsewhere
@sophieblau845
@sophieblau845 7 күн бұрын
Ismael first of all i have to say that i was sceptical of you if you even know what true love is but that was on point because you were talking about all the women i knew in my inner circle who were always a big red flag 🚩 in my life because the pain they had endured or suffered through men is and was intense they always reminded me of all i never wanne be or experience and i never did by the way i‘ve had always an very harmonious life because I’m a woman who dies absolutely not care about the men who are giving and offering absolutely nothing to me, i did always just care about the men who care about ME!
@stellatong5002
@stellatong5002 17 күн бұрын
My dad always told me that when a man leaves a woman, it means that he’s not the right one for her. The right man will not leave her.
@natozaridze4341
@natozaridze4341 15 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@meow-kz1yr
@meow-kz1yr 14 күн бұрын
@@stellatong5002 men don't leave ...they want wife and other women also . Wife cooks and other women for sex.
@mlatrellelove
@mlatrellelove 13 күн бұрын
amen
@tobe-you-tube6612
@tobe-you-tube6612 12 күн бұрын
I quit
@JasonStone-m5i
@JasonStone-m5i 12 күн бұрын
Unless she cheats , lies and steals. Then leave her. She doesn't love you
@LynnWolz
@LynnWolz 17 күн бұрын
I’m going to frame this statement: “He found someone better for him NOT someone better than me”
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 16 күн бұрын
Daily reminder.
@cc1k435
@cc1k435 13 күн бұрын
Also, he may just be an asshat. 😂
@Ash_03
@Ash_03 12 күн бұрын
Yes
@StellaTale-ft4fg
@StellaTale-ft4fg 11 күн бұрын
Yes, I love this ❤❤❤
@mariajmc6557
@mariajmc6557 11 күн бұрын
WOW... and land in a dump 😂😂
@maria-lena5919
@maria-lena5919 17 күн бұрын
If they leave, let them. Whatever the reason, accept & move on. Why would U want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with U? More often than not, it's a blessing in disguise.
@AmericanDreamer
@AmericanDreamer 17 күн бұрын
agree
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 16 күн бұрын
You got that right.
@meow-kz1yr
@meow-kz1yr 14 күн бұрын
It's so difficult if the woman have kids. They will always remind her of that monster.
@annlavine3576
@annlavine3576 14 күн бұрын
I read a quote “I got a cat for a husband it was a good trade
@seeyalater2953
@seeyalater2953 13 күн бұрын
Man's rejection is God's protection.
@ndyndy2785
@ndyndy2785 17 күн бұрын
Becouse good women are for good man .
@berlindaarmijo9251
@berlindaarmijo9251 17 күн бұрын
Good Answer!! I AGREE
@_PurpleReign_
@_PurpleReign_ 14 күн бұрын
Amen, Sister!
@sassy46201
@sassy46201 12 күн бұрын
Exactly
@Ash_03
@Ash_03 12 күн бұрын
Yes Quran says the same thing
@nidashaikh8390
@nidashaikh8390 11 күн бұрын
... *Good women are for good men, and good men for good women* *Quraan **24:26*
@AnitaSingh-lp5wz
@AnitaSingh-lp5wz 17 күн бұрын
My ex ended our marriage because I stopped being a yes woman and stopped wanting to be disrespected I started standing up for myself so he went found a new woman to kiss his feet
@LoveLife-oo9cz
@LoveLife-oo9cz 17 күн бұрын
Pray for that woman. Don't babysit men. Your next love might come sooner than you are expecting. Self-care then self-love first then find a cool man to date.
@MichelleGarcia-fg2xq
@MichelleGarcia-fg2xq 12 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯 that's why I left
@vkrgfan
@vkrgfan 11 күн бұрын
Forgive her, most likely she is putting up with that because of the finances. A lot of women in abusive relationship because of economic hardship.
@renticat
@renticat 11 күн бұрын
​@@vkrgfan😭😭😭
@welshed
@welshed 10 күн бұрын
I bet you didn’t put out enough and that’s why he left.
@Lena-h7d
@Lena-h7d 10 күн бұрын
Good men don't leave Good women!!!
@ShammaNayak
@ShammaNayak 21 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@amyshomesteadanimals
@amyshomesteadanimals 14 күн бұрын
I have been happily married for 23 years, and all I can say about these "reasons" that men leave good women... they are shallow and immature. Good grief! These are not "reasons". These are sad excuses. It's like this young man is trying to brainwash women into believing and accepting that there is a valid reason for men to behave like jerks and be shallow. Pfft! They want a relationship for sex and to meet their own needs. When that gets boring, dull, or hard in any way, they do not want to grow and do the work to improve themselves, let alone a relationship. Period. Ladies, every... single... one of you... deserves better! Don't accept these bull $#!? Exscuses!❤
@blurrylights6344
@blurrylights6344 13 күн бұрын
Agreed! I call it looking for the BBD, the bigger, better deal. Men who do this cannot commit and treat human relationships like a business deal, exclusively. Pathetic.
@bootsiekeegan4401
@bootsiekeegan4401 12 күн бұрын
Just his opinion does not make him right
@Diana-yn2ho
@Diana-yn2ho 12 күн бұрын
Some men are really stupid. They think because they get thrills by sleeping around with hoes that these women will become loyal, faithful partners or spouses if they decide to live together? No!! Many men do not appreciate a good, faithful wife. Because there are more women than men in the general population, men have always been spoiled. Everything rotates around them, unfortunately.
@MichelleGarcia-fg2xq
@MichelleGarcia-fg2xq 12 күн бұрын
You nailed it. Thank you for saying it. I just walked away from all his excuses, and while I'm heartbroken, I knew it was the right thing to do for myself. 😢❤
@medusagorgon8432
@medusagorgon8432 11 күн бұрын
Hear, hear!👏🏽
@MsLily99
@MsLily99 12 күн бұрын
I’m a 25 year old, never dated before. Most guys I meet are only interested in sex or money and if they don’t get it they get angry. If I read all of these comments here then I think it’s better to stay single . At least you’re stress free and can do whatever makes you happy 😅
@berlindaarmijo9251
@berlindaarmijo9251 11 күн бұрын
@@MsLily99 your not missing out you are Wise to stay single my daughter is the same and Love's her single life going on 40 years of age. She's a nurse so she doing very well for herself and Still helps the family she's very giving for those that don't take advantage of her help from her heart. Enjoy your life too! That's amazing. Life is endless John 3:16 A Great Future Ahead.
@Linda-uo8hh
@Linda-uo8hh 11 күн бұрын
Trust me this is a good move. There is the odd unicorn that may want a relationship for the right reason, but most will just take advantage and waste your time.
@nenaleibel
@nenaleibel 11 күн бұрын
After the birth of my first daughter when just about everyone had a good advice for me, my aunt advised me to listen politely to everyone and do what I felt right. I think that this is a good approach. Hear everyone but listen to your heart and guts. Right now you may feel that the best thing is to stay single, but it is quite possible that you may feel the opposite too. Don't be afraid. There are all kinds of human beings (men and women), e😢ach of us looking for and offering something. So meet life, rely on your abilities to discern and choose who will be mirroring your growth. I wish you luck and the ability to see it. A warm embrace
@nenaleibel
@nenaleibel 11 күн бұрын
😢
@nenaleibel
@nenaleibel 11 күн бұрын
😢 my elephant fingers touched this. Apologies
@alicesamuels3937
@alicesamuels3937 12 күн бұрын
Mine left me for a person 24 years younger than me, a drug addict with 3 kids. Well , her kids got taken away , he got heavy into drugs with her , and died at 58. I was his wife for 22 years… when he got sick with Covid after an OD, she didn’t even come . For 4 months I was at the hospital every day , then he died. I’m a Christian, so I forgave . It’s was 2 years ago, the grief is still there and after such a betrayal I think I will just stay on my own. Me and Jesus .
@sgaidola76
@sgaidola76 11 күн бұрын
I’m so sorry ❤ What a tragic loss. 😢
@BunnyRabit-yo3lx
@BunnyRabit-yo3lx 11 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry! Sending you peace and healing. 🕊
@maix139
@maix139 10 күн бұрын
You deserve happiness
@beulahgideon9779
@beulahgideon9779 9 күн бұрын
I understand what you've been through, admire you for your kindness and you are right staying on by ourselves and learning to walk with the Lord Jesus Christ is the best
@LolaizaJazzmine
@LolaizaJazzmine 8 күн бұрын
Your too nice . Thats why nice women get emotional abuse . I would have not. Done it. My exes are jnvisible to me. They dont exist and they will never be allowed into my life. Even if they are dying
@Youreacashier
@Youreacashier 9 күн бұрын
I had one that came back to me after 15 years. I gave him another chance because he was the love of my life when I was young. He threw me table scraps and made sure everything worked out the way he wanted it to. Then he went on a golf trip to AZ (I actually made him cookies for the trip) and met someone else. I knew right away that this had happened - I just felt it in my heart. He came back, pretended I didn’t exist, moved her and her two kids in his house and married her after just a few months. I was heartbroken and stopped dating after that. She ended up being a beater. She would beat him up and he wouldn’t fight back. They divorced after 10 years. Those 10 years were much better for me than they were for him! I win!
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 9 күн бұрын
Karma will always take care of things. Good for you.
@jenny1234361
@jenny1234361 9 күн бұрын
He may have been ‘the love of your life’, but clearly you were never ‘the love of his life’. Only reason he is back is because you treated him better. It’s all about him, and sorry to say, you are a bunny to take him back… 10 years to realise a mistake? Pfft!
@chiobabe2180
@chiobabe2180 6 күн бұрын
Why in gods name would you allow him to come back after THAT long & expect him to treat you like anything but trash
@mahnoorsiddique2556
@mahnoorsiddique2556 17 күн бұрын
A man of God never treat his lady as an option. So many men do not have this sense. A real man has the courage to love and commit to a single partner despite of all the flaws and problems. The rest are just drama. Only the real man is the real partner for lifetime.
@missevie432
@missevie432 6 күн бұрын
Be careful so many wolves in sheep clothing they will even go to church with you, pray with you, quote scripture but then nearly beat you to death or worse. Discerning a man takes time n if he's rushing u, saying BS, wants to engage u so fast but not marry. RUN CHILD.
@maryp174
@maryp174 10 күн бұрын
Many men leave good women for bad women. Then when the men are old, sick & worn out and the bad women dont want them anymore, they envy the men that stayed with their good women and are enjoying a good life with their wife, children & grandchildren.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 9 күн бұрын
That’s a poignant observation. Sometimes people don’t realize what they had until it’s too late. It’s a reminder of the value of appreciating and cherishing the good relationships while you have them.
@iluvrunning9310
@iluvrunning9310 4 күн бұрын
So true!
@lunizparlein173
@lunizparlein173 2 күн бұрын
Agree have seen it
@CeciledeLuire
@CeciledeLuire 14 күн бұрын
No, maturity is not about age, true!! i see many men in their 20s being just lovely, and many in their 40s being immature and unreliable.
@writer1986
@writer1986 15 күн бұрын
Too true. I married an emotionally immature man-child who wanted to be taken care of. He didn't marry me for me nor a partnership, he married me for his own selfish benefits. It took me 6 years to walk away. If he thinks the grass is greener on the other side, go ahead, it's only mud.
@carlel121
@carlel121 11 күн бұрын
Sometimes is greener
@MeowMeowGril
@MeowMeowGril 11 күн бұрын
@@carlel121 lol bait
@JR-ev8ce
@JR-ev8ce 11 күн бұрын
@@carlel121…..no, it’s not greener, it LOOKS greener because it’s planted over the sewer!!
@carlel121
@carlel121 11 күн бұрын
@@JR-ev8ce hahahaha, my life is greener since I left my husband! Some people are toxic, and you better leave them, don’t assume we are the best that could have happened to them, because sometimes we are not! Maybe you were, it does not matter because he didn’t see it! Focus on you! And not in what he thinks about you! You know your worth, if he did not see it, too bad! But in my case i left for a good reason and not planning to comeback, because definitely I am much better without him. 😉
@kishafowler9278
@kishafowler9278 10 күн бұрын
It took me 26 years to figure it out. Glad you didn’t waste more time than 6.
@annchurchill2638
@annchurchill2638 17 күн бұрын
We women can adapt, change, improve, but we cannot get YOUNGER.
@worldadventuretravel
@worldadventuretravel 17 күн бұрын
Sperm deteriorates in quantity AND quality once men turn 30... males having children over 30 put those kids at increasingly higher risk for several chronic conditions and disorders. Men do not have an "age" advantage over women for reproduction.
@Omar_Zazzle
@Omar_Zazzle 17 күн бұрын
It seems to me that women don't change or even try to improve themselves until after they been through a lot of bad boys and have children and their choices have practically dried up and they finally go for the nice guy / simp to support them and their children.
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984 17 күн бұрын
@@Omar_Zazzle Not me in particular. I waited till I was 28 to lose my virginity for one thing. I just had rotten luck when it came to men for all these years. And a lot of men these days (heck probably a lot of women too) don't know how to love properly anymore.
@lambchop6278
@lambchop6278 17 күн бұрын
​​@@Omar_ZazzleThere's some truth to that. Nice guys aren't necessarily nice though. They can be selfish jerks, too. It just shows up differently. However, it's definitely possible that too many women go for the short term mating guys when they want a long term mating guy. They need to start watching Jane Austen romances and quit watching Twilight. I do think that women probably go for the bad boys first, unfortunately. But then it's a question of whether they are suited to them, and if not, whether they learn it and quit the fantasy that they can change a man or that he'll change more than just a little for them. I only had to encounter one bad boy type to pretty much get scarred for life.
@Polar_Bear_2007
@Polar_Bear_2007 17 күн бұрын
​@@Omar_ZazzleYou're over-generalizing.
@mollydooker9636
@mollydooker9636 12 күн бұрын
My husband of 20 years decided he didnt love me anymore. No warning. Yes he saw a better future without me but the underlying reason was fear. Fear of getting older, fear of missing out, fear of his lifes options becoming limited.. Whereas my greatest fear was not providing a happy stable environment for ourselves and our kids, pathetically his was FOMO.. Men can be their own worst enemies.
@verenakey8389
@verenakey8389 12 күн бұрын
Sounds very familiar. I wish you all the luck in the world.
@sylviaportillo3789
@sylviaportillo3789 8 күн бұрын
Like he was going through mid- life crisis...
@bluebird4750
@bluebird4750 7 күн бұрын
Same here. Only we had been married 48 years. He imploded our family. That was 10 years ago.
@NicoleRiddley-dj8li
@NicoleRiddley-dj8li 17 күн бұрын
I've seen so many of my friends who were kind and sweet got taken for granted and treated poorly by their men. Meanwhile, there are some selfish women for whom men bend over backward to please. It's not fair, I know. But I think you should value yourself and other would too. Girls, put yourself first, because no one else will. Never grovel for scrapes of love from men who don't deserve it. Remember, desperation is very off putting.
@LoveLife-oo9cz
@LoveLife-oo9cz 17 күн бұрын
To love a man, you must first understand the man's nature instinct. They like challenges and they hate to admit but they love gold diggers. Gold diggers don't care about men but themselves more. Thus, creating a challenge for men. Gold diggers are consistency with their looks. They don't sacrifice for men then look ugly. They spend money on themselves and use men's money, which men feel fulfilling for providing. If you are the provider for a man, he will find someone else to provide. Logic 101. People hate gold diggers, but I think the women should at least acknowledge and learn some tricks from them even if you are not one. Don't do everything for a man, because let a man be a man. Learn self-care and self-love first.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 16 күн бұрын
You’re absolutely right-self-worth is crucial, and it’s important to never settle for less than you deserve. Valuing yourself and setting standards helps attract the respect and love you’re worthy of, and desperation will never bring the right kind of attention.
@DesipetsoIndia
@DesipetsoIndia 15 күн бұрын
​@@LoveLife-oo9cz Exactly 💯
@mahiaggarwal6286
@mahiaggarwal6286 13 күн бұрын
@@LoveLife-oo9czi swear I swear I swear, you are the epitome of truth. 💯
@MichelleGarcia-fg2xq
@MichelleGarcia-fg2xq 12 күн бұрын
And, while I don't understand this, I keep seeing, not only in my dating life but in the experience of other women, many men seem only attracted to women who treat them like shit. Then they complain about it when they are the ones who go for it. Then get a good woman and don't like or appreciate it. It's insane.
@cfleagle1
@cfleagle1 10 күн бұрын
I left my husband after 24 years, because he was trying to send me to an early grave, and I had lost all hope. I totally agree with the concept of looking for a new future without the person who makes you unhappy. I tried, don't get me wrong. I'm a communicator, but when someone sees no problem with the way they are, they aren't ever going to change. Don't give up, cut ties and move on. You both will be happier in the end.
@carlel121
@carlel121 10 күн бұрын
@@cfleagle1 Exactly my case also, but someone said they think the grass is greener but then realized there is only mud, I said well sometimes the grass is greener, and they all attacked me 😅🙄
@nuevaecija9512
@nuevaecija9512 12 күн бұрын
Men leave a good women because they get bored with a good one. Men continues to play until all the good ones are gone.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 11 күн бұрын
I appreciate your insights. Thank you for sharing.
@MmM20978
@MmM20978 15 күн бұрын
Don't compete ladies...let him go!❤
@jennalavena
@jennalavena 17 күн бұрын
ive noticed that guys that don’t have good relationships with their moms end up leaving a good woman. but guys that care about their moms don’t leave. my bf has a good relationship with his mom and we’re 2 years strong. he never left me. we always worked through things
@Ashtarot77
@Ashtarot77 17 күн бұрын
Wrong! My sister's ex husband had a good relationship with his mum but he still cheated on my sister 15 years after they got married. She did everything for him.
@jennalavena
@jennalavena 17 күн бұрын
@@Ashtarot77 it obviously doesn’t go for every single guy on the universe. also, u don’t know if he had a good relationship with his mom. u only saw what he allowed u to see. but i have a background in psychology, and i’ve been surrounded by guys who grew up with single moms or no mom at all. they were not kind to their gfs and their relationships always ended. those types of guys tend to be very entitled and misogynistic tendencies.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 17 күн бұрын
@@jennalavena”You only see what he allows you to see.” That one is usually the case 💯
@jennalavena
@jennalavena 17 күн бұрын
@@SaveTheMessenger thank you
@lilyofthevalley7413
@lilyofthevalley7413 17 күн бұрын
You are only starting, but maybe it will really work on the long run.
@melodyforsoul8240
@melodyforsoul8240 12 күн бұрын
It is better to accept when someone wants to leave you. If he finds someone else he thinks better for him, don't stop him,. Do not waste your time on him. Let him go. Don't try to change his mind to love you. And do not change yourself for him. You don't know someone may like you the way you are.
@Emillyy94
@Emillyy94 17 күн бұрын
Sometimes people are only supposed to be in your life for a season and seasons change.
@najjukamariam1986
@najjukamariam1986 13 күн бұрын
I think so. Yet as ladies we never think of that when falling in love.
@fishstar3740
@fishstar3740 11 күн бұрын
Season change, feeling change too.
@maix139
@maix139 10 күн бұрын
Yep as we get older overtime...we change our pov on life and life partners.
@bevybanks
@bevybanks 17 күн бұрын
The idea of a PERFECT mate is a FANTASY!! It is unrealistic and actually a bit narcissistic to expect a person to completely fulfill you. To some extent, we are responsible for our own happiness. Ever hear of SACRIFICIAL LOVE?? Love for a lifetime will not happen without it!! Deep and abiding love is possible but it takes real commitment and humility. Pride and SELFISHNESS abound, unfortunately. In today's world, I must address the issue of pornography because it is destroying people .. married or single. My husband and I are people of faith in Christ and married for 40 years. I have a good husband and marriage, but I have had my disappointments, too. Too many people refuse to go the distance and it's heartbreaking. God bless everyone on this thread 🙏 ❤
@joanofarcxxi
@joanofarcxxi 17 күн бұрын
Wisely stated by someone with actual experience and insight.
@glorious6779
@glorious6779 17 күн бұрын
I agree 👍 💯 % I'm a women of faith myself been married for 19 years. People get married today for happiness. Longer 8m married I realise marriage is christ the husband and the the bride the church. Christ sacrificed himself for the church. And the church submits under christ. This is important to understand. Today's marriage there is no depth.
@ChristinaSloan-yn7tm
@ChristinaSloan-yn7tm 17 күн бұрын
Your videos are telling me that my future is better off without men
@Omar_Zazzle
@Omar_Zazzle 17 күн бұрын
Cats are cute.
@ChristinaSloan-yn7tm
@ChristinaSloan-yn7tm 17 күн бұрын
@@Omar_Zazzle yeah ur right I am going to have 3 cats and 3 dogs. Men come and go but pets are forever.
@CAL-of9mu
@CAL-of9mu 14 күн бұрын
​@@ChristinaSloan-yn7tm I've heard once that pets and kids are loved more than men. Now I understand why
@mahiaggarwal6286
@mahiaggarwal6286 13 күн бұрын
The future is indeed better without men
@user-bz6oz6gt6q
@user-bz6oz6gt6q 11 күн бұрын
Why would you think like that ? Just move slow, follow the Word of God, do not go against your intuition, love yourself.
@beautybygoddessjeanette1793
@beautybygoddessjeanette1793 10 күн бұрын
My ex husband and his family took all my money and started a relationship with a very low self steam unattractive masculine woman, he was a monster in front of my daughter also in a week I put the divorce on him, I did really love him but I love me first, he is another person now 5 years later he is with depression, he is an alcoholic he looks way older and he is sick mentally and physically, his brother stole the business and he treated his new wife horrible and on the other hand I healed and I am doing great, thank God for taking him away from me and when my daughter told me a year ago (16 now) that her dad abandoned her because that’s what he did after I put the divorce on him I told her : it’s no your father who abandoned you it’s God protecting you of him because he is absolutely sick of his mind right now, God protects good women he really love us enough to take the garbage away from us of course in ways that sometimes we don’t understand ❤
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 9 күн бұрын
I'm really sorry you went through all that, but it’s amazing to hear how you’ve found strength and healing. It sounds like you’ve come out stronger and in a better place.
@priyankamech8099
@priyankamech8099 5 күн бұрын
It's all about karma
@Cat_dog285
@Cat_dog285 4 күн бұрын
Laws of karma 😮
@nikkisdesk8086
@nikkisdesk8086 17 күн бұрын
Thank you soo much. This video proved to be very helpful for me. He broke up and yesterday i spent the whole night sending him message and trying really hard to make him stay . Cried for the whole night. Today , I lived with swollen eyes till the night. I will never ever think about him again. I am happy that he has gone.
@peacendukwe
@peacendukwe 17 күн бұрын
Sorry
@Thou-tj7hd
@Thou-tj7hd 17 күн бұрын
I don't want to pry, but why did he break up with you?
@giftij
@giftij 15 күн бұрын
​@@Thou-tj7hdreally?
@Thou-tj7hd
@Thou-tj7hd 15 күн бұрын
@@giftij Oh don't spoil the fun, I'm just curious to know what made him break up with her. Is there anything wrong with that? I enjoy laughing at other people's pain :D
@majena
@majena 15 күн бұрын
Sending love and support, stay strong 💛
@FreeSpirit47
@FreeSpirit47 14 күн бұрын
Leaving a cheating, lying abuser gave me a much better life. It took time to reinvent myself, time well spent. He expresses his regrets at being a lousy husband. His loss, my gain.
@carladossantos1142
@carladossantos1142 17 күн бұрын
My take on this is a lot of men have unresolved issues from their childhood that carry on subconsciously into their adults lives. If they do not address those issues they will spend their lives self-sabotaging. To make matters worse, the notion of a man getting into a therapist consultation is still very much judged, not only by people around him but also by him himself...these men will end up losing amazing because of this
@jainy1707
@jainy1707 17 күн бұрын
Well said!
@6334-t9e
@6334-t9e 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely 💯%
@nothanks5846
@nothanks5846 11 күн бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@bethanyharrington1747
@bethanyharrington1747 7 күн бұрын
Bullshit…. They need to put there big girl panties on. Get over it
@thirstingknowledge
@thirstingknowledge 7 күн бұрын
True! My partner or ex (don't know which at this stage) has attachment issues and had 4 marriages and has always asked them to leave after 8 to 10 yrs, Apart from the 1st he cheated on. But he refuses to see he has those issues and prioritizing his women the least. His father was that way so that's what he saw.
@Pipavir75
@Pipavir75 11 күн бұрын
Men prefere bad ladies, because they can always give them a excuse to leave them. With a good, intelligente and caring lady, they just dont know how to excuse themselves to leave them; it's more difficult.
@ZFern9390
@ZFern9390 6 күн бұрын
That actually makes a lot of sense. 😢 When my husband left me , I thought to myself he needs to be with a woman that is a slob , a drinker and bad mother because he sure wasn't happy with an organized, stable mother of his child , sober, drug free wife, I work full time too, business owner. It has broken my heart that our family is torn because he is so immature. After our son was born gradually he just became complacent, lazy and indifferent. I will never trust again. He broke my heart.
@Pipavir75
@Pipavir75 6 күн бұрын
@@ZFern9390 I feel for you. I wish you all the best. You will get over it. Blessings for you.
@istedlaal-1544
@istedlaal-1544 13 күн бұрын
This video is non sense and just low balling women! The only reason that a man leaves a woman after approaching her, wooing her or after a relationship with her is that he is WEAKER than that woman and runs to find another weak woman who he can feel strong with!!!
@ladybird8375
@ladybird8375 13 күн бұрын
Men will not get involved with a woman he doesn’t like or find attractive. I think is just the character of the man. Some men believe they have many options so they are very choosy and they play the field, they have big egos, they can also be narcissists. Others are good men with kind hearts who respect and value woman and so when they meet a woman they like and are attracted to, they will put in the effort to maintain the relationship and they won’t do a runner on them.
@nasrinvahidi5515
@nasrinvahidi5515 12 күн бұрын
So true! Everything that you said was right on ❤ Other reasons when one partner leaves is: 1- Bad sex- failing to satisfy physically or emotionally the other partner. 2- physical or mental issues. 3- Addiction 4- being second place. Parents or friends whims and wishes come first, 4- inability to manage life. Messing around, making bad decisions, lazy. 5- being too possessive, stingy, jealous, backstabbing, unkind. 6- have dangerous ideas, steal, lie, overly sexual. 7- being unmanageable, rude, having a bad mouth, or bossy of a bad kind. 8- overly ambitious, works too hard, doesn’t enjoy life. Everything is a chore an obligation and a responsibility. 9- victim minded. The suffering kind, gives away her stuff and complains and moans. 10- same sex attraction takes over.❤
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@priskruger314
@priskruger314 11 күн бұрын
Can you tell more of the victim minded. Like why would they give away their stuff?
@zetatheta964
@zetatheta964 11 күн бұрын
If he leaves a woman because she lacks 20% of what he wants the next one who has that 20% will be lacking 20% of what the first one had. That’s what John Gottman found in his 30 years of researching couples. As a couple therapist I can tell you, this guy has no idea. The people commenting here know more than he does.
@Senka778
@Senka778 17 күн бұрын
After dating for 1, 2,3 ,4,5,6,7years the man didn't see the future That's why he leave ? Oh Gosh 😂😂 being a lady, woman, girl, lady is hard . Stay single forever 🎉
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984 17 күн бұрын
Exactly. I'm probably just going to have a baby on my own if ever!
@LoveLife-oo9cz
@LoveLife-oo9cz 17 күн бұрын
That's why you shouldn't give any man more than 3 years of your time if no ring. The older you are, cut back to 2 years dating. No man wants a woman and putting her in GF ZONE forever. Don't give out wifey benefits without marriage. Don't wait for any man after 3 years. Youth wasted.
@CAL-of9mu
@CAL-of9mu 14 күн бұрын
​@@LoveLife-oo9cz7/9 months is more than enough. 2 or 3 years is a waste of Time
@claudiasbarra1044
@claudiasbarra1044 13 күн бұрын
We have to learn to love ourselves enough and more and more. We deserve better. I don't want a man anymore 😢😢only made horrible experiences
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984 11 күн бұрын
@@LoveLife-oo9cz My parents, when they were in their 20's in the 70's just took around a year. I'm in my 40's I'm not waiting even 2 years. To @Senka778, thank you. That's kind of you to say. I gotta do what I gotta do. It's too frustrating to be waiting for someone who doesn't care about you and your goals. Not to mention hurtful. I may even do fostering or adoption if that stuff fails. My aunt though, she got so lucky. She and her second husband had IVF at 48 and boom at 49, they had twins! It was crazy and cool. She already had three previous children with her first husband.
@vkrgfan
@vkrgfan 11 күн бұрын
A man is not happy with himself and where he is in life, or he doesn’t want to feel insignificant and small next to her. Weak men afraid 😧 of strong woman, they don’t want a woman who is independent free thinker, and can accomplish things without a man.
@diodio520
@diodio520 15 күн бұрын
I will listen to this on repeat, never to forget, never to get fooled and used again believing that there can be someone out there for me. The price for finding it out is too high.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 15 күн бұрын
I hope you find someone who makes you feel loved and safe.
@diodio520
@diodio520 15 күн бұрын
@@SaveTheMessenger I won't, because it involves risk I am no longer willing to take to find out...
@evelynbare1975
@evelynbare1975 11 күн бұрын
In a country where sex can be ordered like pizza, relationships are bound to be a mess. Any man who would leave a good woman is a fool and should be let go. Better to be happy alone than miserable along a shallow man.
@crystalyn2855
@crystalyn2855 6 күн бұрын
Yes. The U.S. has the highest consumption of P*rn in the world.
@spritedaway13
@spritedaway13 16 күн бұрын
He sure can find a future without me but not a better one I promise😊 Im a software engineer, a tango dancer, a musician, a lovely heartwarmingly charming, beautiful young lady and I’ll work my ass off as long as I live. I’ll stay true to my authentic self and my values and no one can take this away from me 👸🏼
@katt7370
@katt7370 15 күн бұрын
So essentially you can never really be good enough for most men? No matter what you do? They’ll just be fickle and leave for someone who’s got less to give than you?
@DesipetsoIndia
@DesipetsoIndia 15 күн бұрын
Also i feel when women give too much in relationship nowadays men feel she's desperate and they don't realise its efforts and not desperation. That's why i always feel women to hold on and let men persieve you if you feel he's the one then put efforts which are required to keep the relationship or man . Don't give too much that's his job . Let him do it .
@ReginaelizabethFrancis
@ReginaelizabethFrancis 12 күн бұрын
If you don't have a good father figure you will never have a gpod partner. Some wounds are very very deep.
@Indaymaria2024
@Indaymaria2024 11 күн бұрын
Honesty is the best policy,I always say to my long time boyfriend if he found someone better that will make him happy it’s okay for me coz he deserves that and I deserve to be happy too.
@LolaizaJazzmine
@LolaizaJazzmine 8 күн бұрын
Keeping it real. . It took me years to inderstand that love is not forever. I totally get. It. Its best to be honest
@sonnyecho9195
@sonnyecho9195 8 күн бұрын
Someone once said he doesn’t marry you because he is just waiting until he finds someone better but yeah for now he hasn’t met anyone better so getting a relationship without any true cost to him like marrying you is such a bonus for him for sure.
@rumelamitra8087
@rumelamitra8087 3 күн бұрын
I am returning from a post that said, the longer you hold on to what's not meant for you, you delay whats meant for you
@caroletta451
@caroletta451 11 күн бұрын
I would have to say, from what I've seen in my 70 years, 45 of those married to the same man, this is not from experience, is because men can't keep it in their pants, they are immature, Mid-life crisis is hitting, life is passing them by and they want to relive their youth with some hot, young chick!
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 11 күн бұрын
That's usually the case. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@caroletta451
@caroletta451 11 күн бұрын
@@SaveTheMessenger You are welcome, Sir.
@cytkl
@cytkl 14 күн бұрын
A man treats you like he treats his mother
@AnahitaAzar-h8s
@AnahitaAzar-h8s 11 күн бұрын
Thats not true ive seen many men treat their mothers good but women they throw in 5 min
@EsraaEsraagaber3001
@EsraaEsraagaber3001 17 күн бұрын
Thank you , Ismail. You have no idea how inspiring and useful your videos are!
@AnnetteCarolanFourie
@AnnetteCarolanFourie 13 күн бұрын
Thank you it was painful after 20 years and he had 4 woman after me so that showed me a lot about myself and I got a delightful man in my life who is good to me
@Ashtarot77
@Ashtarot77 17 күн бұрын
I think my son's step mum is better suited for his dad than I ever was. We had loads in common yes, but they just make a better couple. I'm still single after all these years because I haven't found anyone who's better for me yet.
@beefstew4698
@beefstew4698 12 күн бұрын
Alright then, just keep on going🙏
@mariajmc6557
@mariajmc6557 11 күн бұрын
so kind a thought pray you too find someone who loves you unconditionally....
@sushmasinha8054
@sushmasinha8054 15 күн бұрын
It’s a big problem they leave on an instant and girl life is changed forever 😢
@chloenovastar
@chloenovastar 17 күн бұрын
I really think you might be my favorite relationship coach I've seen on KZbin thus far. I find myself understanding concepts so well the way you put them, and you provide a really nuanced take. Thanks for all your hard work, and for sharing with us!
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 16 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words-it means the world to know that my work resonates with you and helps you understand these concepts more deeply!
@branypoo
@branypoo 8 күн бұрын
Forget about ALLL the other relationship/dating videos out there. This. This is the one. I feel peace. Thank you. 🙏❤️
@vickigonya9432
@vickigonya9432 12 күн бұрын
In my case, it's bevause they had NO CHOICE. After years of them ignoring me , what's important to me , things Id like us to do together, or things Id like him to do..... he had to go, I was done. Actuslly I them both the houses. I didnt want anything from them. Just my freedom - done talking to a wall. Ive been alone since 1997, traded him in for 2 pit bulls and never looked back!!!! And zi coukdnt be happier. I dont have to compromise, consider his opinion, run anything by him, its my house, my property, my SUV, my TV my furniture, my art, my flower beds, my vegetable garden, my health vs his sickness.😊😊i LOVE IT!! MY DOGS AND I ARE HAPPY 😂❤
@ZFern9390
@ZFern9390 6 күн бұрын
A lot of women feel like talking with their husband is like talking to a wall! I have met older couples that enjoy their small talk and difficult discussions and they don't end up in arguments. I admire them.
@ykt4343
@ykt4343 17 күн бұрын
It must have been quite painful to tap into those memories to make this video for us. It's not easy to watch people you love suffer. Thank you for the video and the insight. This one is appreciated for you going into the depths of your pain to help us.
@rusikochanturia3639
@rusikochanturia3639 17 күн бұрын
"Not someone better than you"👌❤️
@annchurchill2638
@annchurchill2638 13 күн бұрын
If that "better outcome" is a younger woman, guess what: that woman is gonna get old too.
@annehedonia156
@annehedonia156 8 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter. Let them go to their younger woman who will eventually be old, too. Who cares? Go find you a younger man! 😉🥰
@annchurchill2638
@annchurchill2638 8 күн бұрын
@@annehedonia156 I took your advice!
@juliagarcia6385
@juliagarcia6385 10 күн бұрын
I have had men who left because they felt inferior and not good enough. Some of these were intelligent proffessional men who felt inferior due to many diferent reasons. Too bad because I could have been able to stay by their side and help them throughout life.
@suroyan911
@suroyan911 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for the clarity!!
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 17 күн бұрын
Always my pleasure.
@peterpisspotty3052
@peterpisspotty3052 17 күн бұрын
This is the cold hard truth 😢
@user-od9oi7qj5l
@user-od9oi7qj5l 8 күн бұрын
I like your voice and the comment “ he found some one better for him , NOT someone better than you … important to remember …
@empoweringrelaxation8321
@empoweringrelaxation8321 17 күн бұрын
Not to hate men...yes ..but after using what is the value of women? I mean I am not an old phone...I saw it once in my life. my husband needed to walk away, he lived in another country with another woman. he repented. I knew after his death. Now what? That should happen! There is a God who is watching our actions.
@ivstaun6368
@ivstaun6368 14 күн бұрын
I really love your videos and that one reason men would leave a good woman is absolutely the same , that women would leave a good man... Well believe that we deserve something better and after a while all relationships come to the point that we wonder "Is this really the best, I can do?"...
@Justiceone88
@Justiceone88 10 күн бұрын
I was married to an abuser for 11 years, reached breaking point, left- best decision ever-that was 17 years ago❤
@gwynnielsen5081
@gwynnielsen5081 13 күн бұрын
This is not difficult. Men leave good women because they like a challenge. Most of them want to "fix" women who are difficult.
@animetsystudio9841
@animetsystudio9841 8 күн бұрын
My crush who is my close friend choosed another girl over me, which made me so devastated I felt completely used of my input to him, trying to be best where in return I didn't got the respect I deserve and made me to questions my own beauty and personality. I was so devastated for 4 months which made me so emotionally drained. I had previous crushes but never felt this drained and devastated. Now I'm free and happy and he's not happy in his relationship and idc lol. Bc I'm happy that I can focus on myself
@Bellingham.lover.123
@Bellingham.lover.123 17 күн бұрын
Thank you ssoo much because i was really confused why my bf left me but now i know that he left me because he saw me as a new phone🤷‍♀️
@arne8038
@arne8038 11 күн бұрын
"He found someone better for him?.." or he found someone immature like him?
@madisonandthefarm
@madisonandthefarm 13 күн бұрын
Let them leave…not the right man for you…the right man will not abandon you
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 11 күн бұрын
I’m with you on that.
@gracegladden3279
@gracegladden3279 12 күн бұрын
What crap. You make it sound like the woman's role is to filfill the man's every whim, dream, and desire. She has to be perfect. Really??? That's a dark ages mentality. A womsn's role is to fulfill hereself. Not somone else. The someone else has to fulfull their kwn desires. When that happens, the two are then able to enjoy the company of the other.
@gracegladden3279
@gracegladden3279 11 күн бұрын
@SaveTheMessenger4 I am 72. I do know myself and I do know my own soul. And really no-one knows anything else. The thing about relationships is that all of us keep on keepin on morphing and changing. Our values and prferences change. They are different at age 40 than they were at age 25, and different again at age 55, 65, 72. Partners and family change too. We all do. And there comes that day when we look at each other - and see a stranger - a person we never before - knew.
@user-ix3ip6qm4c
@user-ix3ip6qm4c 13 күн бұрын
Men leave amazing women for women that tell him how amazing he is and they validate that you’re fake and not amazing as he’s been led to believe. This is exactly what he needs to hear about you to feel good about himself.
@annehedonia156
@annehedonia156 8 күн бұрын
Wait... what?
@081hannah
@081hannah 17 күн бұрын
Thank You!! this was very honest and finally something really helpful . No more a victim mentality ..or wondering about milion reasons....it is just how life works.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 17 күн бұрын
No more victim mentality 💪
@sportsman4545
@sportsman4545 13 күн бұрын
I married a guy who loved me for years. Then he stopped. He got ill, couldnt perform, retired, made less money. Then after a lovely joyful week with a much beloved family member, asked me for a divorce. 25 years of marriage. Me carrying the financial load. I said sure.
@AnahitaAzar-h8s
@AnahitaAzar-h8s 11 күн бұрын
He does still love you thats why he left
@valentinabiebie
@valentinabiebie 4 күн бұрын
It’s so true. Better off being alone than being with those men who left us.
@AgentQQ8
@AgentQQ8 10 күн бұрын
Modern dating: “Everything is the other person’s fault!” “Is anything your fault?” *“NO!!!”* Matchmakers & dating coaches: [rage quit]
@juliemarshall7458
@juliemarshall7458 17 күн бұрын
BRILLIANT! Thank you, Ismael! ❤
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984 17 күн бұрын
A lot of those reasons are still shitty how ever they want to justify it. However, at the end of the day, I can only control myself so..
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984
@Goodwillwinoverevil1984 17 күн бұрын
And with that said, I believe ego/pride has no room in true love.
@mrsnia2015
@mrsnia2015 13 күн бұрын
This video just right on time. I need this 😭 Thankyouu so so so so muchhh Ismael 🙏🏻
@maix139
@maix139 10 күн бұрын
I accept the fact that people change and rarely relationships last forever. If he thinks he can do better than go ahead and move on. I know who I am and what I offer but he can't ever come back it the next girl isn't who he thought she is. If he does find someone better oh wells since I already know I am not 100% to him. Plenty of fishes in the sea. Honestly some men are just not worthy of good women...that's why I switch it up sometimes treating him nice some days then be a b*tch other days lol that seems to work because he can never figure out if he truly conquer my heart lol
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 9 күн бұрын
That’s a strong mindset. Knowing your worth and being open to moving on is key. Playing the game can be a strategy, but it’s important to stay true to yourself and what you want in a relationship.
@user-xx1tm5fe9u
@user-xx1tm5fe9u 9 күн бұрын
While he can phrase things in this way, there most certainly are other/deeper reasons that a man might leave a good woman. One of the biggest reasons he could leave someone is that he feels inadequate. You can't satisfy a person like that.
@janet8982
@janet8982 11 күн бұрын
This is a very simplistic video. Some good points however divorce can be much more complicated with children. It is a lifetime of pain and suffering. My ex was a very selfish man and still is. My sons deserved better.
@AnahitaAzar-h8s
@AnahitaAzar-h8s 11 күн бұрын
Same here
@user-ql7lr8ci7j
@user-ql7lr8ci7j 17 күн бұрын
Thanks God. I've already heal from all my pain and bleeding as well. And now, God replace it with calm husband and kind man come to my life. After the rain , the sun will reappear. There is life. After the pain , the joy will still be here.
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 16 күн бұрын
It’s heartwarming to see how you've transformed your pain into peace and joy, embracing the love and calm that now fill your life.
@Wait4me2
@Wait4me2 6 күн бұрын
I’m 68 and I think I have had all these things happen to me in my past relationships. It really helps if they have the kindness to be honest even if it feels crushing at the time. We must be honest with each other and not play games. Everyone wants to be cared about, loved and desired. I know that I only found my true love after I let go and just enjoyed my life as it was. He was a man I admired greatly and I was so blessed to be his wife. He died much too young and I miss him these 30 years on. Be patient and remember what this man Ismael says, write it down. It’s true.
@maryanncrody4867
@maryanncrody4867 6 күн бұрын
@@Wait4me2 I don’t I have had enough pain I have embraced my solitude and feel very content
@victoriassecretisluv
@victoriassecretisluv 11 күн бұрын
There are 61 MILLION Married couples in America . LOVE is natural . What God has joined together let NO MAN put asunder .
@raekaorvelle
@raekaorvelle 13 күн бұрын
This is exactly why women should never do the chasing!
@elizagooler-5889
@elizagooler-5889 9 күн бұрын
Guess what,I beleave in contracts . 30 years and my husband got to a pooldance club ,was blind legally,got an enheritance for 700k ,found a dancer 63 years old in need of retaire, . I sign the divorce with much pain rejection,rolling on ground,,,, I started to say Thankyou out of nowhere. In less then few months I was dancing in the kitchen. I am soooo happy single.
@mtnewman2001
@mtnewman2001 6 күн бұрын
Love ❤️ is based upon intuition. If a person is not right for you, you must forward from him or her!
@Virgoperfectionist-ew3pt
@Virgoperfectionist-ew3pt 14 күн бұрын
Women Should Not Take such man BACK , Let Them Have Woman with 20% Package.. 🎯
@elenacorciu6317
@elenacorciu6317 7 күн бұрын
You are the best coach Gomez . I heard on the last 10 years all reason possible but never until you this simple truth
@SistahJay27
@SistahJay27 2 күн бұрын
He found a woman who’s going to put up with his crap. I’m holding him accountable and I ain’t accepting nothing less than what I deserve and want. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I’m not changing no one. I’m leaving you and letting go periodt. Immature behavior is the worse. I enjoyed your video. This was helpful to me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts
@secret_is_secret_07
@secret_is_secret_07 8 күн бұрын
I alredy have trust issues after watching this video and seeing comments bro forever single is better then having trust on men... 😢💔
@user-po7jx8wn1s
@user-po7jx8wn1s Күн бұрын
😮thanks for all of your wonderful and veryyyy straight up, on point, no bs advice,dear!😊😊🎉🎉❤❤
@lilarose6792
@lilarose6792 11 күн бұрын
Basically, in life, if you're a good person you're gonna have bad times for sure. I learnt that the hard way. I'm still good at essence, but I try to be a little selfish and it works for me.
@cmilam8284
@cmilam8284 7 күн бұрын
It took many years to stop taking all the blame. One day I came to the conclusion ( I have some ownership in the failure), we are not right for each other. I am worthy and I matter and deserve to have happiness, just not with him. It is easy to blame 100% on him; but, I allowed the behavior. So took a break and worked on be a better version of me and this time had boundaries. Rather be free and maybe lonely than to be in a relationship alone and miserable.
@dawndenovi
@dawndenovi 3 күн бұрын
I solved that problem long ago, I have males friends (chit chat), but not relationships, no living together or marriage. I keep busy with things that make me happy, projects, travel and friends...no drama, no heartbreak, no demands, no changing to be what you are not. So when I say I'm not interest in a deeper relation or marriage, the men, like women, think that will change, but it doesn't!
@edenkillswarrior9056
@edenkillswarrior9056 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for being honest. I’m a world full of people who lie to women, it’s refreshing to hear the truth being told, even if it’s hard
@SaveTheMessenger
@SaveTheMessenger 10 күн бұрын
As long as you find peace in knowing the truth. That's all that matters.
@effortlesssuccess2585
@effortlesssuccess2585 17 күн бұрын
Good women are boring, so that’s why men go look for something better and more exciting.
@fatsilver5905
@fatsilver5905 17 күн бұрын
"Good women are boring" - glad to be a good woman and boring. When I was younger I dated a good boring man. Left him because I wanted someone more exciting. Still regret it till this day leaving him
@effortlesssuccess2585
@effortlesssuccess2585 17 күн бұрын
@@fatsilver5905 why? Staying with a boring man is just as unfulfilling. Stop living in the past and move on with your life.
@Omar_Zazzle
@Omar_Zazzle 17 күн бұрын
I am very boring, and I would be very grateful to find and be with a boring sweet woman. I am 62 and find no interest in drama and head games or any other crap, but age has nothing to do with since I have always been boring.
@Omar_Zazzle
@Omar_Zazzle 17 күн бұрын
@@fatsilver5905 A very common story and this is why I never wanted to get married because I could be the poster boy for boring.
@effortlesssuccess2585
@effortlesssuccess2585 17 күн бұрын
@@Omar_Zazzle Good luck, women don’t like boring men. If they do want a boring man, it’s because they can’t get better.
@arielvazquez2437
@arielvazquez2437 17 күн бұрын
What a great video, Ismael... Sounds pretty much as the grass greener... Saludos
@dedrathomas9222
@dedrathomas9222 7 күн бұрын
It’s a two way street… never try to change a person, accept them as they are. Sometimes it’s just not a right partner. This drama is why I remain single.
@user-xx1tm5fe9u
@user-xx1tm5fe9u 9 күн бұрын
This young man lacks a mature understanding. He is listing excuses for the men, telling women if only they were different he wouldn't leave you. This is why real psychologists are required to do therapy, so they don't bs themselves.
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