Why SO MANY Firefighters?

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Mike Pertz

Mike Pertz

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@PDMcG1091
@PDMcG1091 2 жыл бұрын
That house is bigger than it looks at first glance. As a volunteer on a small rural department I will never complain about having too many firefighters on the fire ground.
@michaelmeyer8493
@michaelmeyer8493 2 жыл бұрын
That was my first though lol.
@xyz-o6o
@xyz-o6o 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany thats normal because we need to secure any squad using SCBA in closed spaces by a second squad with extra equipment (not the full of an rapid intervention crew but a bag containing an SCBA with a special mask). In case of a structure fire that means we need 9 firefighters minimum. In case that there are persons trapped in the burning structure 16.
@larryvarner3444
@larryvarner3444 Жыл бұрын
Amen, more firefighters the better.
@larryvarner3444
@larryvarner3444 Жыл бұрын
Amen Brother, people that don't volunteer on fire departments , don't have any Idea.
@RAKRail
@RAKRail 2 жыл бұрын
The Firefighter taking photos / video could have been a Fire Investigator. Early on photos and video are a big help when investigating the fire after the fire is out.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@bobtiki9767
@bobtiki9767 2 жыл бұрын
Yellow helmet he was definitely a fire investigator
@JakeW26
@JakeW26 2 жыл бұрын
That or he could be a department PIO (Public Information Officer)
@nomenclature9373
@nomenclature9373 2 жыл бұрын
Battalion Chiefs often carry thermal imaging cameras to check on hotter areas. If there is a person designated as a safety officer, he or she is on the IR cam more extensively.
@davep6977
@davep6977 2 жыл бұрын
I was a fire photog for awhile (I was a red hat). My job was get there quuick and document. Smoke patterns, color and mainly hot spots and Always sneak in crowd photo's. If you have fire in the back and fire in the front, not tied together odds are they didn't light themselves. There are many things that are the "photo list" but are better NTK (need to know)
@saddleridgearmory4675
@saddleridgearmory4675 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help. Passed multiple exams with your study guide videos. I am praying and hoping to get hired soon.
@denelson83
@denelson83 2 жыл бұрын
For safety, and to make sure individual firefighters do not outwork or overstress their own bodies. Any firefighter will tell you that working to extinguish a large fire can be _exhausting._ For starters, firefighters need to put water on the fire, which means they may have to maneuver charged hoses from time to time, and water is _heavy._ Not only that, firefighting is inherently dangerous. If you do not do exactly what you are trained to do on a fireground, you could hurt or even kill yourself or some of your fellow firefighters. And if you get into a life-threatening quagmire as a firefighter, there have to be other firefighters standing by to go in and rescue you the instant their chief knows you are in trouble.
@joshuadoll9000
@joshuadoll9000 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to add in regards to the whole fighting fire in snow; we can't tell what the conditions are like on the fireground just from a video. The snow looks pretty deep in some places. We fought a house fire a couple years ago in the winter and everything was a sheet of ice but it looked like any typical winter day. We couldn't manage anything more than a slow stroll without falling down. People are quick to judge without taking into count factors they may not be able to see.
@thatman8987
@thatman8987 2 жыл бұрын
Arsonist
@Normal1855
@Normal1855 2 жыл бұрын
Or you don't know what is under the snow. I slipped on a car hood, that was under the snow. Imagine using a charged line, when slipping.
@larryvarner3444
@larryvarner3444 Жыл бұрын
Arm chair quarterbacks. They have never fought fire.
@JB91710
@JB91710 3 ай бұрын
@@larryvarner3444 Ignorant people always make comments like yours. Guess much?
@fyrman9092
@fyrman9092 2 жыл бұрын
I spent 20+ years in a municipal fire department. The initial dispatch for structure fires put 28 firefighters on the scene in less than 3 minutes. Three handlines, 2 search teams, roof team and DC for starters. If anything, that combination can easily overwhelm a fire.
@ChrisDM2024
@ChrisDM2024 2 жыл бұрын
Impossible to have all companies on scene in 3 minutes unless all your fire houses are a mile apart or you only have one firehouse with 28 people.
@fyrman9092
@fyrman9092 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDM2024 it is possible with how some of areas are, especially in the downtown area. I spent many years trying not to get hit when making a hydrant and the rest of the companies are arriving. Have to watch every step.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDM2024 you’d be surprised at how close places can be in older cities, one neighborhood in my hometown has five engines, four ladders, and two deputy chiefs with aides within a mile of it. that’s a minimum of 29 firefighters 24/7…more if they’re running the rescue truck in the city that day.
@GatorsMafia
@GatorsMafia 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to pop in and say thank you for all the videos! I just received a conditional offer at the young age of 19 at the first and only department I applied for!! Your videos have 100% helped me through the process.
@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Colin!! Good luck!
@mikmik9034
@mikmik9034 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when a Ladder company was 8 to 12 guys hanging on to the truck, 3 guys on a pumper/tanker. Now there seems to be only 2 to 4 per truck (capacity of inside comfy cabin).
@davidglaum2538
@davidglaum2538 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting the information out so people can understand how complicated fire fighting is.
@dirkbeekhuis7286
@dirkbeekhuis7286 2 жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands most engines have 1 driver, 1 lieutenant, 4 firefighters (sometimes also a firefighter that's still in training) and a ladder truck has 1 driver and 1 or 2 firefighters on it. With a house fire most times 2 engines, 1 ladder truck and a officer/chief respond to the incident
@fredschepers5149
@fredschepers5149 2 жыл бұрын
Overseas 🙂 Every country has its own fire fighting culture. I've been watching many, many videos from all over the world. Fire fighting is largely depending on infrastructure, building regulations and available budgets. My pov as an overseas former fire fighter is the scenery. A lot of countries are still using power or other lines above the ground. Where I come from I think that 95+% of any line is underground, including the water mains and hydrants. Roads and weather conditions are mostly the same as in compatible countries. In the western Sahara there seems to be less snow than elsewhere 😁 Buildings especially residential. I guess in the US most residential buildings (not the high rises obviously) are made of wood. In my country practically all buildings are brick and concrete build including the floors. Older buildings might have wooden floors and the majority of houses will have a wooden roof frame. Builds are essential for any repressive action and tactic. The culture decides the tactics. Are fire brigades volunteers or do they have fire fighters on a payroll. Payroll fire fighters cost a council more money than volunteers. Education is usually the same. Quite often you will find that in countries where there are more volunteers there is more money available for equipment. Education per country is different as well. Where I come from all fire fighters have the same tasks. It's not military based and from all fighters it's expected to have the same knowledge regardless if it's about fighting fires, rescuing or equipment handling. After a few years (2) you can specialise yourself in whatever speciality is needed. Diver, driver, dispatch, hazmat, or even rescuer at a rescue platoon for larg scale operations. You still remain the normal all hands in one firefighter as at the start no matter if you have to get a cat out of a tree, being a nozzle man inside a house or in a basket, or using cutters or spreaders at accidents. It's more all-round I would say. The requirements for fire fighters usually have a technical background to start with. Electricians, wood workers, metal workers etc. High level of education to start with. The tactics, tho fires are always similar (fuel, oxygen, temperature, mixture, and/or catalysts), really changes by country. Yes, ventilation can be key if the heat is to intense and the amount of smoke is to dense, but on many US video's I've seen the breaking of windows like there are specialist window breakers at work like in a competition rather than effective and tactical ventilation. For me it's weird... For many US fighters it's normal. Just like trying to fight a fire from inside out. I can't imagine with the windows and doors open, you put one line in at work full well knowing that this line will most definitely spray extra oxygen with the water and pushing a fire further in a building in any of the directions of the cubic thought situation. But as I said... Every country has its own, usually effective way of fighting misery. Where I come from tactics are also based on usefulness. Can you rescue a building or did a fire caused too much damage. Would you be better of protecting other buildings or even lower or higher floors. Is the event worth risking people's life. Sure, if life's were at stake you would handle things different. Anyway, from all video's I've seen, this one was most informative... 🙂 It gave a little overall glance about the differences per country... But one thing all countries all over the world have in common.... Fire fighters rock! Period... 👊
@owen225
@owen225 2 жыл бұрын
Most not the fires I have been on had between 25-50ff. It was not because we needed them, it’s because fire ops are fun and interesting. Everyone wants a piece of the action. This is how you keep volunteers going. It’s often less efficient and harder to manage but you have a robust enthusiastic volunteer organization. In my town the fire department is the local team sport. It is the life of the community.
@j2o3sh
@j2o3sh 2 жыл бұрын
Yes as an electrician those lower cables (lines) on the poles are telecommunications and do not carry any harmful voltage … the ones above are actually powerlines and those are the ones to avoid contact with and yes most fire fighters know this.
@mikev7895
@mikev7895 2 жыл бұрын
Firematic wise, we always call the powerlines on the tip top; primary lines (pole to pole), secondary lines (pole to the house) and then the lines on the bottom be utility.
@clarkmorrison7243
@clarkmorrison7243 2 жыл бұрын
This is the second time I have seen the narrator on this channel refer to "power lines" that are clearly low-voltage communications cabling (telephone, DSL, and cable TV). Actual power lines are uninsulated, higher up on the poles, and always come in threes (in the U.S., that uniformly has three-phase AC power).
@mikefargo4339
@mikefargo4339 2 жыл бұрын
A first alarm residential structure fire in my former dept. (retired 12 yrs ago) will bring 3 Engs, 1 Truck, 1 Rescue Ambulance, 1 BC and 1 Safety officer... a total of 22 personal. With each additional alarm the assignment basically doubles again and brings more overhead staffing to the incident.
@timk.2381
@timk.2381 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Germany at my volunteer Department when we have a house fire we have about 50-60 Firefighter from 3 stations at the fireground. And this only the first "wave". If there are coming more departments there could be about 80-90 Firefighter. My biggest fire i had there where about 280 Fireifghter from 15 Departments / stations including Ambulances etc.
@zimnyyveternxt3
@zimnyyveternxt3 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll guess I’ll join in on “at my department..” At our department, since we’re in a urban area encompassing four counties - we get a lot of false alarms, so the initial response is called a “Task Force” consisting of 2 Engines, 2 Trucks and a chief. If the fire is confirmed, and isn’t extinguished or such - it’s upgraded to a 1st Alarm - +2 Engines, Heavy Rescue, Ambulance, additional chief, rehab unit and PIO. Next alarm adds 4 Engines, 1 Truck, 2 Chiefs and any other requested units. Pretty cool what your dept. does!
@stevenbowers4164
@stevenbowers4164 2 жыл бұрын
Rural England, residential fire two engines, three if persons reported, if whole time manned 4per engine on-call up to six, (I say upto six because there's an issue during the day with lack of people in the smaller villages) what the US calls a ladder is not on the std response, we also very rarely might need a water carrier and in any large fire requires more water than the hydrants can supply HVPs would be called in, we had four at a recycling centers fire, they are always a long job
@josephbennett3482
@josephbennett3482 2 жыл бұрын
Short answer : all firefighters have a different role on the fireground , some are nozzlemen , some are Rapid Intervention Team , staging personnel for backup of guys inside the structure , some are engineers or truckies so their only duty is to operate the rigs and retrieve ladders hoses or other rescue equipment that's needed. There's also probationary guy's that can't do anything unless they are under the watch of the training officer and in some departments there are younger guys who are junior firefighters who don't have full fledged experience and can only watch the veteran firefighters do the work. Most guys you see standing around on a scene are just waiting on orders from the IC or they are part of RIT and they're only there in case a firefighter goes down and they need to quickly get the firefighter to safety.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
re:water on the fire. it was venting yet stopped. the smoke changed from thick to white. unless i’m mistaken that’s clearly interior operations affecting it. the front might be where they’re setting ip command and rehab while the interior attack from two lines are underway and in time they’ll get a third or fourth line as-needed.
@user-dg5nj1ez8c
@user-dg5nj1ez8c 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I just wanted to thank you so much for all the helpful tips in your videos, I was lucky enough to be hired a couple of days ago with my first company and I couldn’t be more happy.
@emmata98
@emmata98 2 жыл бұрын
to the thumbnail: 17 isn't many^^ In Germany the standard unit for a house fire is a so called Löschzug (basically 2 engines with 6 and 9 people each and 1 ladder with 3, together with one commanding vehicle), witch in the voluntary FD has 22 FF and with the paid FD we have still 16. But with such a Fire you normally alarm 2 or more for water supply and differrent angles and rather have to much, than to little
@emmata98
@emmata98 2 жыл бұрын
8:48 I did it a few times. Normally when you just do cleaning up, or you can't do anything more (tank is empy and all of your respirator carriers are in action and you aren't one and you have enough personal), so you can do a bit of public engagement work, legal things (proof that we did right in some cases), and photos for training later
@ThatSB
@ThatSB Жыл бұрын
People from warm climates dont have a clue what it is like to deal with deep snow and high wind, let alone be wearing fire fighting gear and having to be throwing freezing water around
@Jhawk-yy4ge
@Jhawk-yy4ge 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I’ve been watching you for a little over a year now and learned a lot and just wanted to say thank you. I just got the call that I’ve been accepted to start the training academy for the city of Pittsburgh next month!!!
@andrewdavidson7656
@andrewdavidson7656 2 жыл бұрын
People shouldn't make judgements about something they know nothing about. There are also many factors in play that they don't think about.
@alexkitner5356
@alexkitner5356 2 жыл бұрын
Its hard to be 100% from a couple minutes of video taken from a limited perspective looks like the fire started in the rear or C/D corner of the second floor. They've made a push, gotten up there and hit that area but have heavy extension to the third floor/attic. They're taking the front windows to ventilate the second floor to help control heat and smoke while they pull ceilings and work to extinguish fire above. With the amount of fire on the third floor already they're getting more benefit in helping keep the second floor conditions better than they're losing in allowing more airflow. The fire is already drawing a ton of air as there is nothing but exhaust out the attic windows and the only reason it is still oxygen limited is the sheer volume of fire up there. You presumably have lines to the second floor to keep pushing the fire up and out, ventilation is helping secure the territory you've gained and to base the next push from. I'm an engine guy but swear the truck brushed the primary going up and it seemed pretty sketchy, would have thought they'd try to put the rear mount on diagonal to the street with the turntable as far back as possible near where they first stopped so they could try and swing under the lines and allow them to operate in the clear apwith good angles on the A and D sides but I wasn't in that seat to see what was and wasn't going to work or what obstacles were in the way.
@charlesrosenberg8233
@charlesrosenberg8233 2 жыл бұрын
Getting that Truck set up was a good idea, especially given the flashover in the 3rd floor front. I don't know what the wind conditions were, but given how close the houses are spaced, the Truck can quickly adjust in case a spot fire started on an adjacent roof.
@xyz-o6o
@xyz-o6o 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany the rescue pumper is THE standard vehicle for every fire department in of medium or big size. In some cities with 100000 to 400000 they are only to be found in the paid stations. But they are used for fire incidents as well as rtcs or other incidents. They combine engine company and rescue company and have a cab for 9 firefighters but are usualley staffed with 5 to seven firefighters.
@sterlinggarcia9859
@sterlinggarcia9859 2 жыл бұрын
Also the firefighter taking the photo / video could of been PIO.
@matthewperalta8200
@matthewperalta8200 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you make a video on a FDNY scene? i know that FDNY has a big budget and a lot of fire fighters a lot of there calls there just standing around like bumblebees ?
@donlyons3196
@donlyons3196 2 жыл бұрын
good point about the snow, i would love too see if anyone could run in snow!!
@TomSmith-th4dy
@TomSmith-th4dy 2 жыл бұрын
From a west coast perspective, i would order an early transitional attack with a deck gun (150 gpm , 1/2” tip) into the third floor window or a 2 1/2” hand line and 1” tip (200 gpm), for a limited amount of time in order to lower the heat level and buy some time for interior crews to gain access to the third floor.
@signal12hvac
@signal12hvac 2 жыл бұрын
its the hidden hazards under the snow such as ice. kids toys, garden tools, holes, large stones etc.
@RLTtizME
@RLTtizME 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot dog doo doo. 😂
@mc051961
@mc051961 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta believe they also noticed the changing conditions and were getting set up for master stream operations
@RayFireFighter
@RayFireFighter 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to have a lot of FF on the job. Our Co and like the rest of our town is Volunteer. So on a Confirm working Job. We have our Ladder and the Engine Respond. (2) Co coming in is Brining a Engine (3) Co coming in is the R.I.T. And depending on how big if its a Commercial Building you want more ladders or if you have a water issue ( No Hydrants) you bring in Tenders. So on a 2 Alarm assignment you Have 4 Engines , 1 Ladder may be 2 if needed. 2-4 Tenders to keep the water coming. And your RIT. And if your RIT goes to work you call in another RIT. Also got to remember 2 in 2 out so on a nice hot summer day you want that extra man power on scene. keep the guys fresh. Winter Same thing. Rather have a lot of Man Power then no Man Power at all.
@Travelinmatt1976
@Travelinmatt1976 2 жыл бұрын
my hometown fire department has a fire photographer. they are trained in basic life saving skills, but they do not get involved unless absolutely necessary. they wear basic safety gear but do not enter structures. many time they are first on scene so they will give the 360 size up.
@406fish1
@406fish1 2 жыл бұрын
Also we have to put into count some places in the United States use Rescue Engines witch makes it much easier to get water and everything done way faster then have to rely on a rescue or ladder company
@GioSerg94
@GioSerg94 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re an AHJ that follows the ISO Fire Suppression rating, attempting to get maximum credit, there’s a minimum number of firefighters that MUST respond to each structure fire (usually a minimum of 4 per structure fire for basic credit). Meeting or exceeding this qualification lowers your insurance rating, which lowers your insurance cost.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын
also, it's better to tell firefighters to sit on the bumper than it is to be screaming for more help.
@donmedrano85
@donmedrano85 2 жыл бұрын
Love the editing and excellent size up
@ScottMStolz
@ScottMStolz 8 ай бұрын
If you think this is a lot of fire fighters at a scene, you should check out Filipino fire fighting. Especially in places where there are no fire hydrants, they have to bring in water with tankers. You can have dozens of fire brigades or more at one fire.
@daveschmidt1601
@daveschmidt1601 2 жыл бұрын
I Live in Buffalo NY area they go by FAST TEAM not RIT or RIC for more Volunteer companies in my area only 4 or 5 paid depts in a 20 mile radius
@daniels.5019
@daniels.5019 2 жыл бұрын
There was no reason to break the windows on the Alpha side. The fire is located on the C side. The fire will now take the whole floor as it moved towards the broken windows. Also every firefighter should carry a tool, making breaking those windows for egress possible if the need arises. Ladder the porch and call it a day.
@CapnBabs205
@CapnBabs205 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree that there's no reason, as we don't know Cleveland Fire's policies (unless you do, in which case I'll humbly shut up). I'd like to discuss the notion that the fire will now take the whole floor though. With the smoke coming from the top floor or attic (whatever you prefer to call it) curling around and heading to the C side, it leads me to believe that the winds are coming from the A side, or A-B corner at a minimum. With the fire already venting out the C side, but that volume of smoke pushing from the top floor, I would think that we'd be dealing with some pretty heavy smoke conditions on the inside. Would taking those windows not allow the wind into the home to alter the flowpath of the fire to increase visibility inside for the crews? I'm not looking to argue by any means, more for some healthy discussion to better ourselves as firefighters.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
in my area, every window is broken for ventilation and egress. every window has a ladder put up to it unless it’s unable to be reached due to fire conditions or collapse concerns…with all due respect: a broken window is less costly than a firefighter’s life.
@donaldmorrison9940
@donaldmorrison9940 2 жыл бұрын
In relation to the speed question, there’s no doubt urgency can be lacking. However, we’re taught never to run on the fire ground because more hurry less haste. All I’ll say is ventilation is a very different thing in the USA compared to Britain Finally, people bang on about getting water on a fire but if you’re committing crews into a building you can’t be spraying water on it Willy nilly. Steam is, surprisingly, far worse for us than smoke so controlled application of water by the interior crews is safer.
@grmpflz
@grmpflz 2 жыл бұрын
There are mostly wooden houses in the US, so why don't they cool down houses next to the fire? We live in a house made of bricks, and when the house next to us (5 meters) burnt down, the second water hose was set up to cool down our house to prevent the roof from taking over the flames. Extremly successful.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын
we call that exposure protection, and yes, it's an important part of fighting fire.
@andrewkwekel3195
@andrewkwekel3195 2 жыл бұрын
I'm learning a ton from these after action videos, keep it up!
@engine2truck6
@engine2truck6 2 жыл бұрын
Cleveland Fire is LEGIT.
@TheWaynelds
@TheWaynelds 2 жыл бұрын
I’m down here in Akron Ohio and I live in a balloon framed house with the old Knob and Tube wiring. There seems to be a lot of fires in my area with 4 on my street within 2 years.
@engine2truck6
@engine2truck6 2 жыл бұрын
Great commentary as usual. BUT OFI and IC actually DO take photos and video, for investigative and for training. And sometimes use drones. It does happen a lot these days.
@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 2 жыл бұрын
That’s good to know...I’ve never noticed on a fire before but it makes sense to take photos of the early stages and development of the fire.
@lon6boardlord
@lon6boardlord 2 жыл бұрын
They did this for my training last year
@kevinturner1943
@kevinturner1943 2 жыл бұрын
As an investigator, those photos are wonderful evidence! On my former department, we had a retired captain who videoed all the fires with a handicam. They helped with investigations immensely. He received an award from the State Fire Marshal's Office for identifying an arsonist who had committed back to back arson fires in barns (a good old vanity arsonist, he called in the first fire after he set it and wonderful Uncle Bud found him at the second scene, too). RIP Captain "Bud" Kinnett Aurora, IN Fire Department.
@jamesbeecher8242
@jamesbeecher8242 2 жыл бұрын
@@mike_pertz as for your sizeup . . . I bet the door on the left is the one that goes to the 2nd floor! Look at the video in the beginning on the D side all the windows are level on both floors BUT at 11:00 look at the windows on the B side. Just past the A-B corner there is a window that looks like it would be below 2nd floor level as if its a light window into the stares. And then below it there apears to be a small window on the first floor that is not as high as the other first floor windows as if it is in a room under the stairs to the 2nd floor.
@tomarmstrong4761
@tomarmstrong4761 Жыл бұрын
Watching the smoke as suggested, I'm thinking about a comment you (I think) made in another of your videos that "smoke is unburned fuel." There's a lot happening in a house fire like this, so, yeah, I'm happy for the crews to be numerous. Even as a "lay person," it seems to me that rotating through crews is important when attacking, for fatigue mitigation and air supply, and ultimately safety of the firefighters.
@CallsItLikeISeizeIts
@CallsItLikeISeizeIts 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think anyone ever complains about too many ata fire
@DistrictFire
@DistrictFire 2 жыл бұрын
Amen...Just the bean counters.
@anthonykinney28
@anthonykinney28 2 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand complete different ways of fighting fires Usually two firetrucks will turn up the fire 8 fire fighters For a most house fire. as we don’t have big 3 stores house mostly 1 stores house you should check out some videos of New Zealand house fire videos.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, that poor truckie really had to work for his ladder position. but yes, if you have it, then get it where you can put it into play.
@nate6692
@nate6692 2 жыл бұрын
I spent 7 years on a rural department. Where do you GET That many firefighters?
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the ladder was deployed the way it was so they can shoot directly from the ladder into the top of the house's front window. My fire department has three separate novels directly attached to the bucket, and from this video I could tell that this thing has something similar at the end of the ladder itself. I don't think it's a matter of climbing on the roof, but rather of fire suppression.
@kyleparrott4020
@kyleparrott4020 2 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but I think the guy "taking photos" is running the thermal imaging camera.
@rohnkd4hct260
@rohnkd4hct260 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good job to me. Cities do things different. This house was a "Containment" fire (keep it to one house). Ladder was a good move but, think I would gone with ladder eariler in the fire. Wish more depts would take pictures, be amazed what you see after the fire.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
two alarms minimum there, which in my neck of the woods is six engines, four ladders, and at least two chiefs…that’s not counting extra manpower. minimums would be 30 firefights, two chiefs, two aids, plus whatever EMS support they have: 38 firefighters minimum, likely more if they run 4-man companies it’s a lot, but they don’t want the fire to spread and lose the whole block!
@aportman58
@aportman58 2 жыл бұрын
Were the firefighters possibly doing a VES operations when they were breaking out windows? Not sure if maybe video was cut and edited and the VES ops wasn't shown? I really don't know if they were performing VES or if ventilating?
@timjager3020
@timjager3020 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Could you please make a Video about german Firefighter. I also life in german and i am Interested how you think about their strategy and Firetrucks.
@aportman58
@aportman58 2 жыл бұрын
At 7:31 its the Delta side of the house not the Bravo side.
@shaun1040
@shaun1040 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the answer is pretty obvious no? The rate at which fires expand and grow is so so much faster due to modern products being super super flammable. The time that firefighters get to respond to a fire before it goes out of control has drastically reduced. It makes sense to have more hands on deck if shit goes sideways no?
@leightongalleries6057
@leightongalleries6057 2 жыл бұрын
I understand what you are saying, explaining, but..... wow. This one sure got away, with a full complement of staff.
@amazingworldtosee
@amazingworldtosee 2 жыл бұрын
Cleveland always has 2 extra units on calls your more for fires I now a lot of these guys in person
@EnigmaMan0000
@EnigmaMan0000 Жыл бұрын
Mike a thought about the medical aspect. Several years back I read an article I think it was in "JEMS" Magazine that was warning Paramedics that respond as Medical Backup on structure fires that there's a higher incidents of; MI's and other heart related medical incidents, with firefighters who have gone into hot structure fires in cold icy weather. It's apparently due to going from overheating in the turnout gear and heavy equipment and then getting too cold going outside and the rapid temperature changes, during winter. Maybe they've learned this and rotate their internal attack teams more frequently or use more of them during winter in hopes of mitigating and reducing heart related emergencies with the firefighters. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just a thought bro... Stay Awesome and keep em coming!!! 🙃🦉❤️‍🩹🕊️😶‍🌫️😁
@brianwebb3768
@brianwebb3768 2 жыл бұрын
Just fyi, the firefighter that is taking pictures around 9 min mark, is the CFD public information officer.
@bereamikebassmaster
@bereamikebassmaster 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic video
@mc051961
@mc051961 2 жыл бұрын
Also noted a number of firefighters exit th A side probably from the 2nd and third floor Lastly if conditions changed that quickly and they were still hitting it from C side The conditions would only get worse oN alpha
@floodkidsgaming7430
@floodkidsgaming7430 2 жыл бұрын
Rescue is RIT in my area (central NY state)
@homeFall1
@homeFall1 2 жыл бұрын
Same here in Southern Oregon
@treeman450
@treeman450 2 жыл бұрын
FDNY is FAST
@SethMaxx1994
@SethMaxx1994 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was a all hands call or 5th alarm fire
@IRonIcScopez
@IRonIcScopez 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be in the next class for Cleveland Fire Department, so I was surprised to see that this video is from here lol
@rbspider
@rbspider Жыл бұрын
Could he have broken the front windows preemptive to shooting water if fire broke out? I feel bad for the people who lost their home in winter , that is much worse in my opinion than losing it in good weather.
@ctt4811
@ctt4811 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt have put the stick up, tough location with the obstructions, overhead and the tree
@martinmcmullen
@martinmcmullen 2 жыл бұрын
Can't have enough firefighters at a scene of major fire for relief and salvage and over haul. And help pick up gear for the next call.
@countrycutting2051
@countrycutting2051 2 жыл бұрын
I have always been taught slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I'd rather do that than tire myself out before I get inside. BUT there is always a time to move a little faster, example: anyone trapped inside.
@2Fast4Mellow
@2Fast4Mellow 2 жыл бұрын
If you see the potential for a flashover, doesn't it make sense to spray water inside that area to 'cooldown' the area in order to avoid a flashover? Or is that not possible?
@clay8222
@clay8222 2 жыл бұрын
@firefighterNOW Would you be able to do a video comparing or even giving your experience on a smoke diver program? My home state (Tennessee) has a smoke diver program in which I have completed. I know many other candidates who have failed the course. I have never attended any other states smoke diver program. Would you be able to make a video with your thoughts on them?
@kvnrnhrd8184
@kvnrnhrd8184 2 жыл бұрын
Hey @FirefighterNow I just found your channel last week and I´m very thankful and impressed by the amount of detail and useful explanation they offer. Because of your vids I can understand the "US way" of firefighting better than ever before. (I am a FF from Berlin, Germany, who loves to learn about doing the job.) My question for you guys in the comments is, with this many people on the fireground: How do you make sure that every firefighter in the building is safe. Do you look especially after your crewmembers or does everyone look after the guy next to him? In Germany we typically have 2 firefighter "squads" inside the building, which look after each other, you just have to check on your buddy. This is not to say you are wrong in the states, I just want to learn why :)
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
there’s a designated safety chief whose job it is to do that. they might be joined by a rehab chief and/or RIT chief. if not chiefs then a senior officer like a captain gets the job
@kvnrnhrd8184
@kvnrnhrd8184 2 жыл бұрын
@@bostonrailfan2427 thanks for the explanation
@geoffreyschmidt
@geoffreyschmidt 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can you please clarify your b-side and c-side terminology? I'm not familiar with it from here in Australia. Thx for the great videos.
@ryanbowden9904
@ryanbowden9904 2 жыл бұрын
A is front / main working side of structure, b c d are names for the other sides clockwise.
@tomcander3669
@tomcander3669 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, correct me if I'm wrong but some department have a crew with line to backup each interior crew?
@peteb9279
@peteb9279 2 жыл бұрын
RIT team rapid intervention team
@tomcander3669
@tomcander3669 2 жыл бұрын
@@peteb9279 if you follow Command Vision he has a RIT and backups staged at entry
@engine2truck6
@engine2truck6 2 жыл бұрын
A “backup line” and a “secondary line”, and a RIT are three Completely different things.
@tomcander3669
@tomcander3669 2 жыл бұрын
@@engine2truck6 that's what I was trying to find out until the other guy wanted to try to be the smartest kid in the class...thanks
@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 2 жыл бұрын
@Engine2Truck6 is correct. Those are all diffeeent things and depending on your department and their ability to get firefighters on scene may impact how many of those things you can have at a single fire. It’s not uncommon for many places to rotate “interior crews” and in the event a RIT team is needed just use two firefighters from a crew in rehab (rehab means rest while the other crews work)
@ofcv1238
@ofcv1238 Жыл бұрын
1:55 ask 100 firefights possible voltage, amps, watts off pole to house…what does “line aware mean” if
@yoyoyolo-kf3qi
@yoyoyolo-kf3qi 2 жыл бұрын
With that firefighter taking pics, what do you think that was? My thoughts is that is a jrff or its a PIO, he did not have bunker pants on or anything.
@warrencole402
@warrencole402 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. Were did you get the rhino from in the back ground.?
@Coldwarrior7781
@Coldwarrior7781 2 жыл бұрын
Too many? Try rural. Many times you have 2- 3- 4 for the first 15- 20 minutes. No such thing as too many.
@SkibbyDenmark
@SkibbyDenmark 2 жыл бұрын
We actually almost always take photos of the house when it's on fire.. Documentation, documentation, documentation.. We are often the first people on scene and our documentation is used by the police, insurance and a lot of other entities.
@skipb4028
@skipb4028 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a dumb question but can you apply to a fire department in a different state (not a transfer)?
@SirSloop1919
@SirSloop1919 Жыл бұрын
The guy taking pictures is the CFD social media employee 🤪
@JB91710
@JB91710 3 ай бұрын
I was hard pressed to find one comment discussing the tactics used at this fire. That means nobody learned anything.
@alexblaine1895
@alexblaine1895 2 жыл бұрын
If you get enough information you should break down the Oakland hills country club fire
@wxvyd9653
@wxvyd9653 2 жыл бұрын
I still gotta write me nfpa exams and still get my D Z drivers license for me to apply for a full time department.
@stevenfrischling5908
@stevenfrischling5908 2 жыл бұрын
The Firefighter shooting photos could be tasked as a Public Info Officer or from the Fire Marshal's Office. I say this as a Fire Service PIO, who has been questioned why I was shooting photos, despite the tails of my bunker coat clearly reading PIO.
@MikeHolovacs
@MikeHolovacs 2 жыл бұрын
Fish, are you still on FlyerTalk?
@nomenclature9373
@nomenclature9373 2 жыл бұрын
Looked more like thermal imaging.
@emmata98
@emmata98 2 жыл бұрын
11:14 I think you couldn't use a vehicle based ladder at all. You get far to close to the power lines (we have to have at least 1 m safety space), no matter where you are, so understandable, that it took ages. Probably it was shut down and grounded, before the ladder would be of any use in its primary job (not counting the other equipment on it)
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
what you don’t see are the hundreds of meters of ladders carried by those ladder trucks not just the big one…they’re visible on the side as well as behind the compartment doors underneath the turntable. and FYI: power is cut if there’s issues with power lines. the big ladders are not as useless as you European or Asian people think
@emmata98
@emmata98 2 жыл бұрын
@@bostonrailfan2427 what? My point was, that you would have to use those portable ladders (like we have on every engine), not the fixed one. And getting a powerline shut off takes tens of minutes, witch is normally way to long.
@arnisdaddy7905
@arnisdaddy7905 2 жыл бұрын
People ask questions like: "why aren't they moving faster?" simply BECAUSE they have never fought a structure fire and the ONLY experience they have with firefighting is by watching Hollywood movies where the ACTORS (not firefighters) are running into the building and miraculously saving the day because that is how the script was written. Running into a burning structure is the best way to make a mistake like not sounding a floor, not paying attention to were you are going and getting lost in smoke filled, ZERO visibility conditions, and/or tripping over things/debris inside the building. Firefighting must be a very methodical process that is carried out with caution. Remember: we risk much to save much, but we risk little to save little. Buildings and contents are replaceable, humans are not!
@Normal1855
@Normal1855 2 жыл бұрын
They have more than they need, for manpower. Better to have too many people, than not enough. Same with equipment. Better to send equipment back, than call in more.
@raycolon477
@raycolon477 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@RomeKG471
@RomeKG471 2 жыл бұрын
Ladder truck should have back in the drive past the utility lines then set up close to the house.
@alfredheibert8321
@alfredheibert8321 2 жыл бұрын
I guess no one read the study we looked over the videos of underwriters laboratory and New York fire department well FDNY governors Island test they were turned on a bunch of duplexes on coming around the party department laboratory and one of the colleges ask if they could burn several of them down for research they found out if you if they would have just put a little bit of water in that room real quick that flashed it would have never happened it would have cooled down the material in that room enough that the black smoke would have died down they're also is the talk about minimal ventilation if the fire adventures off the 500 itself but they said when you go into the front door you're supposed to close it after the first coastline goes in but the first coastline the first thing you want to do is give a quick jerk of water up to the ceiling and that'll cool that area down and then you work your way up to the steps you want to do that a little squirt up in the air I'm going to second floor I'll let you help reduce some of your flashover possibilities that's what this study came out with that's just me so I guess you do you follow your sops
@kennithsebert7779
@kennithsebert7779 2 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget the 2 in 2 out rule
@Backnine907
@Backnine907 2 жыл бұрын
When you speed up the videos, you should play the Benny Hill theme song in the background.
@itmeng
@itmeng 2 жыл бұрын
Just asking, I’ve been taught side 1, 2, 3 and 4 going clockwise around the structure with one being street side. Is A B C and D different?
@viceroyvic
@viceroyvic 2 жыл бұрын
Usually, A is street/command side, then clockwise from there (eg left, back, right).
@itmeng
@itmeng 2 жыл бұрын
@@viceroyvic got it.
@brandonshaw7619
@brandonshaw7619 2 жыл бұрын
We pay them too It's experience They like too
@T_210
@T_210 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for all the red arrows, we'd never figure it out...
@ThatSB
@ThatSB Жыл бұрын
Why is that ladder truck hitting the power lines seemingly on purpose? Isnt that a big no-no?
@josephr4792
@josephr4792 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm a highschool student who's interested in becoming a firefighter/paramedic. I see a lot of people in the comments of your videos saying that they're going to fire academy after they get hired, so my question is where you go take firefighter 1&2 classes before of after you get hired?
@jamesbeecher8242
@jamesbeecher8242 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the state you live in and the department you get hired at. For example, in Florida, most cities wont let you take their test until you have already gotten your basic training. But other cities like in NY State and PA (I was a fireman in PA for 21 years) the cities will send you to the academy for training after you are highered.
@theler2012
@theler2012 2 жыл бұрын
You can find a volunteer fire department. In the department I volunteer at, there are a bunch of high schoolers 16-18 who joined and were able to go to fire academy classes by signing up at their stations omce they're available.
@andrewj9831
@andrewj9831 2 жыл бұрын
This is a tricky question to answer, as their isn't a right or wrong answer. It really depends on the dept. I would decide where/what you are interested, look at their hiring process to see what is expected. Some Depts. have separate EMS/Fire, some are combined and some are you are a FF for X time, then you can transfer to the EMS side. In my area, for the biggest FD, most attends a tech school for fire prevention 2 years, and get the basics done, then they apply to that dept, they get hired and attend their fire academy (in theory you don't needs any previous training). FD outside of this city, it's the same kinda, but they instead of a fire academy, they get hired and that dept has a training program (in house or at the tech if needed -no training is needed at some). Like I said look into this and see what you find....there's 1001 right answers and 1001 wrong answers.....
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