DO NOT DO THIS If You See A Fire

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Mike Pertz

Mike Pertz

Күн бұрын

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@wyattbigelow8243
@wyattbigelow8243 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's like donut operator for firefighters.
@BarnesyBoy
@BarnesyBoy 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly lol
@lauraee9450
@lauraee9450 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Bidensucks1
@Bidensucks1 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@adambushman2928
@adambushman2928 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Or Officer 401
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
only, without the cheating on his girlfriend and publicly humiliating her
@alaninnh
@alaninnh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a thirty year retired veteran firefighter and former chief, and I want to compliment you on the good information and insight to this video and your manner of presentation. You've earned a new subscriber.
@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! With all your experience, feel free to chime in on any video with your insight. A lot of young firefighters watch and can benefit from a thirty year veteran!
@ryanbogle2721
@ryanbogle2721 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great i love reading through the comments and seeing different firefighter views and experiences this really help me though my Academy and now getting ready for the hiring process
@hollow34
@hollow34 3 жыл бұрын
@@mike_pertz Replying from the UK here, when we go 4 in a pump (minimum allowed) to an incident I'm sweating balls, these guys are going 2 to an incident, that's bloody insane.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
Got a talk when I was 8 in Primary school about what to do and not do from a Dublin Fire Brigade fire fighter
@Cap6302
@Cap6302 2 жыл бұрын
As 30 yr retired Fire Capt from a small dept (8 pd 35 vol) I have reponded to fire with a 2 man eng company. Nice Job!
@areyouready1214
@areyouready1214 2 жыл бұрын
As a volunteer firefighter/EMT in a small town (800 in the village and another 1500 in the township), you're definitely right about the possibility of a 2 man engine. We had a call a couple winters ago where 3 of us took 3 separate trucks. Our first out rescue, an engine and a tender. By Gods grace, it didn't get bad.
@stevecooper2873
@stevecooper2873 Жыл бұрын
Been there, years ago. [before mandates]. Never underestimate what a small crew of trained, dedicated, motivated personnel can do.
@SocialistDistancing
@SocialistDistancing 3 жыл бұрын
For a two man crew, they got water on that fire pretty fast. Faster than some larger crews. I watched a documentary on mall fire in the UK that took place in the 80s. It was a newer structure with a good alarm system and proper exits and so forth. I don't remember all of the particulars of the incident, however, the investigation found that there was plenty of warning (alarms) and time for patrons and staff to get out safety, yet, people died in the fire. Here's one set of particulars to some fatalities. Grandma and grandchildren were shopping. They had split up to shop as families do. When the alarms sounded and they grandchildren exited, they didn't see grandma. So they went back inside the structure to find grandma. However, grandma was safe. She had exited a different entrance on the other side of the structure. The children had succumb to the smoke. They were not the only fatalities. In short, human nature makes people do things that can't always be predicted. I see this with people everyday. But in a fire, logic goes out the window. Maybe you are familiar with the incident in the UK that I speak of.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 жыл бұрын
actually, there was a delay in starting because they were on a ladder truck and had to connect to a hydrant.
@saiya2521
@saiya2521 3 жыл бұрын
​@@kenbrown2808 I don't think that was a ladder truck, it said "engine" on the front but in reality that's most likely a quint or squirt truck. Probably has a small water tank, the driver is operating the pump, and the other firefighter was stretching a line. Hate to be an armchair chief but that's just my observations.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiya2521 yes, in that area, it's likely a quint. and yes, they have a SMALL tank. and I'm pretty sure I saw a ladder on top, which makes it a truck, even if it does say engine.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenbrown2808 Being a trucker's son, I know that depending on which side of the country one is on, the same thing can have different names. I thought such was the case with fire apparatuses, however, I asked my friend who is ff, and he said that different types of vehicles are called different things regardless of what part of the country one is in. And he explained to me what makes a vehicle a truck or an engine, though I no longer recall what.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 жыл бұрын
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 aerial device makes it a truck. and yes, there are departments where they use different terminology than the standard.
@indigogaydusek8775
@indigogaydusek8775 3 жыл бұрын
This is MY local department. I just got hired on and helped test hose for some of those same engines yesterday for my second day on the job. How neat to see some of my guys in action.
@johnarat9618
@johnarat9618 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I wanna give respect to you. My dad was former Bureau of Fire Protection, in the Philippines, 1990s.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :D Can you tell us whether anyone was hurt, and whether the old part of the building was saved?
@johnarat9618
@johnarat9618 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheEDFLegacy I think they were able to save the original bar.
@spmince
@spmince 2 жыл бұрын
Another 30 year retired fire officer and new subscriber here. This is only the second one of your videos I have watched but it’s obvious you know your stuff and are doing a great job. You talked about flash over and back drafts in this one. It would be great to see you do a video explaining the difference in the two and how to recognize them. Even long time ff get confused on that topic. Again kudos on a great job.
@thisissparta789789
@thisissparta789789 3 жыл бұрын
Someone commented at the end of the video that they shut the metal doors between the old and new parts of the building before they got out, which is actually not too bad of advice. Shut doors can slow down fire growth. My department had a fire a long time ago in the late 90s where the homeowner was asleep on the couch and died, but if she had been asleep in her bedroom, where the door was shut, she probably would have lived, because everything outside the bedroom was burned, but the inside of the bedroom only had moderate smoke and water damage. I was always taught to keep the doors to bedrooms shut at night for this very reason, as well as to shut as many doors as possible while escaping.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
Thats standard advice here in Ireland
@janniklasbertram9436
@janniklasbertram9436 3 жыл бұрын
As a German the first scene is absolutely incredible to see. Such big ass engines and only two people on there. We have at least 6 but mostly 9 people on one engine and to that fire at least three engines from one department and another department if not two other departments would respond. And all with volunteers. Even in the big cities with paid service the second department would be the volunteer one and with that large fire they definitely would have been deployed.
@saiya2521
@saiya2521 3 жыл бұрын
I was in Germany for an exchange student program for a while, I had just finished the fire academy as well (being 18 years old). I got to talk to so many firefighters during a parade in a town in Schleswig-Holstein named Reinfeld. It was really interesting to hear their experiences compared to mine as well as my peers in the fire service. I remember casually bringing up the topic of vertical ventilation and VEIS and they looked at me like I was crazy!
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
St pats day.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
How big are they compared to a European engine
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
@@saiya2521 What is VEIS
@meaninglesscog
@meaninglesscog 2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarosullivan4513 Ventilation Enter Isolate Search
@eastonkeeton5370
@eastonkeeton5370 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these fire breakdowns, they have really helped me as a new Jr firefighter
@Herobrine2480
@Herobrine2480 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@tnzayatz6579
@tnzayatz6579 3 жыл бұрын
Just an observation on manpower. Several comments on how few FF’s were there at least initially. Three man crews - Officer, driver, everything man (even in career departments) have unfortunately almost become the norm. You should be amazed at what we do with the lack of manpower.
@garyradtke3252
@garyradtke3252 3 жыл бұрын
Last call! Long long ago in my younger years, part of my Coast Guard basic training consisted of shipboard fire fighting. This was especially scary because you can't fight it from outside. They set the inside of a structure on fire with fuel oil and we had to go in to put it out. When ever I see a large building or a high rise structure burning on the news it reminds me of the training I had. We knew what the inside of the training structure looked like before entering but when an actual fire happened on a commercial ship we didn't have the luxury of knowing the lay of the land and had to fight it from inside.
@PauwerFurry
@PauwerFurry 3 жыл бұрын
This is the St. Joseph Fire Department. What you said about rural FD crew sizes is totally correct. I’m a JR. in another Missouri town and usually when I’m on a truck I’m with a couple more juniors and two interior FF’s, so there’s only so much we can accomplish on our first out truck.
@stephen9958
@stephen9958 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a volunteer fire fighter with my town of Seymour all volunteer fire department with the help from the all volunteer county and a full time department 35 minutes away with 360 miles to cover
@Randy_Tippett
@Randy_Tippett 3 жыл бұрын
This was in st Joseph mo. Believe it not not. Closest station was block away.
@PauwerFurry
@PauwerFurry 3 жыл бұрын
@@Randy_Tippett Hey, you know what it totally is! Nice catch there!
@karlahemphill3414
@karlahemphill3414 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou😊
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
A DFB man came into our school when I was eight to give tips
@Brandon-b3k
@Brandon-b3k 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. Cap here from California. In these rural counties there are quite often propane tanks close to the building. For a building this size that is a business, it would be at least a 250 gallon tank, probably a 499 gal tank. With a fire such as this and the amount of BTU's BLEVE is a real concern. Please take this into consideration for the excited civilians as well as yourself and your brothers and sisters.
@ke0wnenathanmixon400
@ke0wnenathanmixon400 3 жыл бұрын
That's why a good 360 is so important. If there was one there that would have been something very important to communicate.
@scar3xcr0
@scar3xcr0 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a firefighter but my nextdoor neighbors house with a residential propane tank burned. Their house was built in rural Colorado in the 1950s and the propane tank was right next to the building which is against code but it was grandfathered in. The propane tank was for the stove and they also had a fuel oil tank for heating. When the fuel oil tank ruptured the entire side of the house went up with flames as tall as the trees. That heat caused the propane tank to vent and this colomn of fire shot up 2 or 3 stories high and lasted for about 15 minutes. This was in the middle of the night in the middle of the winter at 8,000 FT elevation in Colorado. It was probably about 35 degress below freezing. There was a hose that was leaking water between the connector and covered a fire truck and a tree in thick ice.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
@@scar3xcr0 Did they put it out
@scar3xcr0
@scar3xcr0 3 жыл бұрын
@@oscarosullivan4513 The house had to be torn down most of it burned to the ground but everyone lived. All their photos survived because they had a fire safe because of the wildfire risk in the area. They had aluminum roofing and I remember going over after the fire and noticing that it had melted and flowed down the hill.
@scar3xcr0
@scar3xcr0 3 жыл бұрын
@@oscarosullivan4513 oh and with the propane tank to the best of my recollection they sprayed water on it to cool it and eventually it stopped venting but I think it just kind of ran out of propane.
@ranger2316
@ranger2316 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the analysis and commentary. I find it remarkable at how FAST the fire extended from the right to the left. I am also impressed, as I watch more and more of these videos, how fast they start knock these fires down when they get water on them. Thank you for bringing us along and for the objective analysis.
@ShiningDarknes
@ShiningDarknes Жыл бұрын
That two-man engine was on-point. About 2 minutes after getting out of the truck they had water on the fire and clearly the pump operator also got water sourced because that water didn't stop.
@Heff162
@Heff162 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy how fast the fire rolled over the door where that last person ran out just seconds later
@jayp7171
@jayp7171 2 жыл бұрын
People have no clue how fast a fire can go from small to raging inferno, especially with the widespread use of engineered lumber.
@brjackhenderson3847
@brjackhenderson3847 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the guy sneaking out with a coffee cup in hand at 5:59 in the video. Smoke was banking down pretty well by the time he exited. It's a wonder no one was injured or killed.
@duane1975
@duane1975 3 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh at your use of the horn to censor the language lol, definitely understand you doing it. I do have commend the people shooting the video, they had enough common sense not to run after their friends that went back inside.
@robertschwartzman195
@robertschwartzman195 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to see what a back draftooks like the fire 2 years in Queens,NY is a good example. There was firemen on the roof and the fire was through the roof. Side Tracks Restaurant they were making entry though the front. They broke out the plate glass window when the air rushed in and with of a force of an explosion the fire pushed the fireman on the ground and then the fire raced through the block You can hear the video recording person. Watch that video to see a back draft. The FD had their operation tent get blown from the backdraft.
@Jprice141788
@Jprice141788 2 жыл бұрын
The one fire I was on (as EMS) the two family members came out first and ran around the back of the building hoping to find their parents. The parents came out the same way after and the father ran back in thinking they didn't come out yet. He did not come back out.
@rmk2336
@rmk2336 2 жыл бұрын
That guy yelling "You're fu**ing stupid!" to the other guys who went back in, I'm glad he's telling them that because somebody needs to tell him that.
@sethhorst6158
@sethhorst6158 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing of the debris in the smoke that aren't finished burning definitely explains how the fire can get so huge when it gets hot enough for the smoke to turn to flames. Bars are probably one of the worse places to have it happen, with all the highly flammable drinks in there and people who might be too drunk to fully comprehend what's going on. I also feel bad that the horn sound censoring the swear words made me laugh
@fire58372001
@fire58372001 3 жыл бұрын
I was paid & vol. & I can say that you nailed it. Many a times I've been on an Eng. with 1 driver & me or just me by myself until help arrived.
@FINBONE2
@FINBONE2 3 жыл бұрын
That first guy did a hell of a job with the original knockdown being by himself......
@samhonegger2630
@samhonegger2630 3 жыл бұрын
We burned an old couch in or 3 acre timber today (it was in a safe environment and we burn things similar all the time. We knew what we were doing.) It was tough to get the couch to light with matches but once we got it it was crazy seeing how fast it burnt and how much black smoke it gave off. I never really understood how structure fires happened so fast until we burned that couch. (Also we would not have burned the couch if we knew how much black smoke it was going to produce.)
@ericl2969
@ericl2969 9 ай бұрын
I know next to nothing about this stuff but I think I have a relevant comment about your observation. I once saw a fire at a warehouse that was full of furniture. It erupted at incredible speed, and even as I was watching from approximately 800 feet away, the radiant heat was incredibly intense, so intense that I think a person standing 300 feet away from the fire would have been in severe danger. This fire was only a mile from a major airport and the first response was from an airport fire truck, but it was so windy that the stream of water was missing the fire by a good 30 yards, with the operator inside the cab being unable to see beyond the high point of the stream so he couldn't see the water being blown uselessly to one side, and there was no outside observer there to communicate to him that he emptied his entire tank without accomplishing a thing. The building burned to the ground in short order but the contents kept burning for another hour, even as local crews arrived and began pouring on water. At the time, I worked in a multi-unit building and told a friend at a neighboring business what I had just seen. She said she had once worked at a large furniture store and said that her boss there had extremely strict rules about no smoking and no open flame of any kind, and that he didn't even allow accumulations of burnable materials in trash cans. When someone questioned him about why his rules were so rigid, his reply was always the same: "Ever see a furniture fire?" He said once you've seen a furniture fire you never want to see another one. After watching that warehouse disintegrate, and after feeling such intense heat at a distance of roughly a tenth of a mile, I can vouch for that.
@poppajoebeneckesr7573
@poppajoebeneckesr7573 3 жыл бұрын
Great job breaking down this video, you are spot on with what small Departments have to deal with. If I was still on the job and training new volunteers your videos are a great resource. Thanks
@randyogburn2498
@randyogburn2498 3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm not a firefighter but I can vouch for the heat. Years ago an old house burned next door to a building I worked at. We stood against our building watching & could feel the heat from across the street, just like these people.
@HighwayLand
@HighwayLand 3 жыл бұрын
My County has 19 fire stations, 7 of those stations have an engine that is manned with 2 career personal and sometimes a volunteer and/or a student firefighter from our community college, the remainder is on-call or volunteer. We train as a 2 man crew, and for most areas we will wait for another 10 or 20 minutes before our second engine arrives.
@byronbotts2789
@byronbotts2789 3 жыл бұрын
I know about this fire... this is in down town St Joe Mo.. some year ago.. the down town area of St Joe is very old... some building are over 150 years old and has little to no fire codes... water supply is unlimited... at the time of this video the fire department was undermanned throughout the city... City did not budget for a large department and St Joe is a fairly decent sized town... there was times some stations would not be manned.. today things have change for the better, "but" still has a long to go...
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear
@tracylarson1935
@tracylarson1935 3 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to look at the building on google maps, Look like the exposure was on charlies side basin the alpha side being on Grand St as oppose to US Hwy 59. I was almost expecting a body(s) recovery effort. I too came rural department in Oregon. The biggest take away was the first due began exterior suppression effort (Defensive Attack) or upon a chief officer arriving switching to transition. I have learn the newer practices that is to minimizing the risk to the fire fighters. All in all most people have no idea what they are talking about backdrafting !!! and ways thank the share. I are with you there nothing that can bought worth your life. Thanks again for the share - Be Safe!
@Gmoney033
@Gmoney033 3 жыл бұрын
Love the breakdowns these are my favorite videos to watch!
@JakeW26
@JakeW26 3 жыл бұрын
"It's backdrafting like crazy" That was adorable😂🤣 And "Amanda" seems to be pretty stupid
@hosedragger-204
@hosedragger-204 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on safely using a chainsaw for clearing trees? I got to use one to clear trees for the first time ever yesterday. A car went off the interstate and into the woods so we had to clear the obstructions for the tow truck operators. I'm a probie so I asked the Chief if I could do the cutting since it was a lot of small diameter stuff. I had a general idea of how to run it because I was doing vertical ventilation training with my Firefighter Essentials class the day prior, and from observing my Dad running saws at home for the past 15 years or so. The Chief said go for it so I got to work. He, the Captains, and senior firefighters gave me pointers and suggestions as I went through. It was a good learning experience, and a fun one. It's still a bit surreal for me being a firefighter because I always wanted to be one since I was a young kid. We've got pictures of me climbing around in and on the rigs at the department my Dad was on for 11 years. The funniest thing is that one of my Captains was on that department with my Dad back in the day.
@hosedragger-204
@hosedragger-204 3 жыл бұрын
@Ben Henderson Vermont doesn't have more than 2 crews, and they are for out of state stuff primarily
@John-ru5ud
@John-ru5ud 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that with a fire, unless you are in full bunker gear, your first order of business is to get out and get away. Period.
@DomChrisOwens
@DomChrisOwens 3 жыл бұрын
Some people just don't understand there are hazards other than the flames as well. In my line of work I've been to dozens of working fire scenes, and it has happened more than once that a bystander gawking at the fire has mentioned how bothersome the smoke is. Flames and heat are one danger, smoke and the carcinogens within that smoke is the next major concern as a bystander, standing there breathing in that smoke is just as hazardous. Just because your across the street doesn't always mean you are safe, heck in this video the one guy mentions the overhead lines but then continues to stand there in the same spot!
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
Good point
@gocubs46304
@gocubs46304 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your videos, started my degree in fire technology on the 15. These are going to help alot.
@RichardFrazier-pp2zg
@RichardFrazier-pp2zg 21 күн бұрын
I'm waiting to hear back from a department see if I get voted in. These videos helps, Thank You very much 😊
@Ronaldrygun
@Ronaldrygun 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a volunteer in a rural town and when we respond to fires (at least the ones I’ve been to) we had 3 companies respond, we never had a full truck (3-5 people) but when we showed up there was already about 15 firefighters on scene. It’s mainly because our department is on the edge of the county and we often respond to fires in the next county over
@jeffpitoniak
@jeffpitoniak 3 жыл бұрын
The telesquirt can be used offensively if connected to a water supply. This effectively gives you another firefighter as the pump operator can control it
@JB91710
@JB91710 3 ай бұрын
1. The first equipment at any fire should be an Engine with at least 750 gallons of onboard water, a Deck Gun, two hose reels and three firefighters. Either in the Engine or in personal cars. 2. The driver should drop off one firefighter at the hydrant and lay in. (There are no guarantees that anyone else will show up shortly.) 3. The Engine should be positioned so the Deck Gun has a Line of Sight on any burning material. 4. The engineer should activate the pump on tank water. 5. The third firefighter should man the DG and knockdown any Visible Burning Material while the Engineer is hooking up the hydrant line. One Engine and three firefighters could have knocked down this Visible Burning Material in the first minute of arrival. Arrival meaning the Engineer has set the brake and steps out to go to work. Tell me where and HOW I am wrong, not That I am wrong!
@GraemeMurphy
@GraemeMurphy 2 жыл бұрын
I had to do a rewind back to 5:57 just to see a bloke exit the door that was belching hot gases with a beer in his hand !
@seanmahoney2671
@seanmahoney2671 Жыл бұрын
You speak the truth... I have been to structure fires by myself.... not even a pump operator, just me. You are also right... I am not going in by myself.
@Krylon103112
@Krylon103112 3 жыл бұрын
We are training more for 2-3 man crews. Train to use deck gun as the guy on the nozzle pulls the line. Use 1/4 tank then switch to hose. Make sure you have water in route. Or a water sources near by. The reason it went up fast is the alcohol that was in there. With this make sure you use the thermal to quickly check the front for people and fire. But to check for alcohol fire can be clear and cannot be seen. Just things to think about
@xzxxx2351
@xzxxx2351 3 жыл бұрын
Once we confirm a fire we call for water but that's 10-15 minutes before that's going to arrive on a good day. Till then we have about 3000 gallons
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 3 жыл бұрын
@@xzxxx2351 Tankers should BE ON THE WAY on the first assignment. It's TOO late to call for them after you confirm a fire.
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 3 жыл бұрын
Just stop. First off, if you only use 1/4 of a tank, that's MAYBE 250 gallons AT BEST, if you actually have the right range and aim. Dump the tank, that buys you time. And alcohol being a factor??? No. Just NO. Most of the alcohol behind a bar WILL NOT burn. Unless it's 100 proof or more, it's not going to ignite readily. And a THERMAL camera WILL detect ANY fire. Key word is THERMAL, not visual. Are you sure you're an ACTUAL firefighter??????
@Krylon103112
@Krylon103112 3 жыл бұрын
@@xzxxx2351 I understand it is the same for us. We run with 4,000 gal. And have to balance a quick knock down and conservation of water.
@xzxxx2351
@xzxxx2351 3 жыл бұрын
@@ffjsb we only have tanker/pumpers for my department so they are there as first due, but we have to call for TTF once we confirm a fire. Then we are calling all departments with 30 miles for there tankers
@ericweiler6571
@ericweiler6571 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how he explains things. This guy is cool and I'm hooked. New sub. For the first time, I'm actually going to hit that little bell deal. This and the David Decker channel are the best two fire channels. Great job
@Prizzlesticks
@Prizzlesticks 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, my mum called me downstairs for an impromptu discussion about my mental health. Not knowing it was going to be a long conversation, I left a candle burning in my room. After over an hour, I suddenly perked up and said, "I have to go blow out my candle." She thought I was lying to get out of a tough conversation, but I said, "No really, I'll be right back." I hopped up the stairs and opened my door, and on the far side of the room was a wall of flame. I shit you not, I spent a good 15 seconds, staring and thinking, 'How do I fix this without telling Mom?' My room was connected to a teeny bathroom my sister and I shared, and I considered trying use the old fish bowl under the sink to douse the flames. Before I could even move to do that, I thought, 'Don't be a fucking idiot, there's nothing you can do to fix this. Even if you put out the fire, there's no hiding that damage, call the fucking fire department.' So every time I see someone completely freeze and stare into a raging flame, or do something dumb, I kind of remember that moment and get it. I almost tried to put out a fire with a fishbowl, so... P.S. Turns out plastic is just solid oil, more or less, which means if you have a plastic art desk, don't burn a candle on it, even if it's one of those thicc candles that has five wicks and it has barely burned. Just don't do it. Do not put flame on a plastic surface. Your art portfolio will thank you later.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
How long did the fire brigade take
@lukearts2954
@lukearts2954 Жыл бұрын
I think there were a few more lessons to be learnt from the video wrt attack strategy, and reigniting (the roof structure was clearly still on fire, and the fire above the door was about to reignite at the end of this video, as shown by the flames flickering on that gutter). Great that you indicate the limitations of voluntary fire stations. One thing that was definitely within the scope of this video that was not mentioned at all, is how a person inside delays extinguishing and thus increases damage and risk. That extra damage will amount to a multiple of the cell phone's price. It would be a good idea to make people aware _why_ we can't start extinguishing when somebody's inside. (fire triangle. Can't take away the fuel, because that's the building the person's in; can't take away the ignition, because the fire ignites itself; that leaves only the oxygen to be taken away, which would kill the victim 100% of the time.)
@apcasrroma
@apcasrroma 3 жыл бұрын
The volume, velocity and density of the brown smoke coming from the eaves at the beginning indicates that the structural members are burning - not just the contents. It's apparent that the fire is venting. But the roof structure itself is already threatening to collapse early. Later in the video the smoke turns to black with a lot less volume, meaning that the fire is consuming contents deeper in the structure as well. The prudent size up might be to go defensive right away (probably with a 65mm or 2 1/2" line) because of potential collapse. But I could be wrong.
@fireguy284
@fireguy284 3 жыл бұрын
2 man engine crew....Welcome to my world. It's how we roll.
@stephen9958
@stephen9958 3 жыл бұрын
Yep all the time on a all volunteer department same with the county
@joe0813
@joe0813 2 жыл бұрын
"only two fire fighters? for realz? blame your town politicians then
@andycranford8531
@andycranford8531 2 ай бұрын
I don't know what your training taught, but I was taught RECEO (Rescue, Exposures, Confine, Extinguish, Overhaul) at the beginning of my career and we later went to REVAS (Rescue, Exposures, Ventilation, Attack, Salvage). Non-firefighters are not aware of the priorities we place on operational procedures and how we conduct fire ground operations. I think it is important that we communicate how we do things a little better to help save more lives and property.
@jerryhughes5380
@jerryhughes5380 Жыл бұрын
It's not a Backdraft, it's a Fast Spreading Fire. It's wind driven and if you have Structural firefighting foam put 1% concentrate in your fire stream application. If not DROP 2, 2-1/2" hose lines and get to work!
@patrickkasper2776
@patrickkasper2776 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up! Your posts are excellent. Love the deep explanations the more details you give the more I learn
@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@77gravity
@77gravity 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, BUT: A friend is a lineman (electricity), he was working on a pole when a house nearby caught fire. He went in, pulled out two people, literally saved their lives. Got a Bravery Award from the State. I'm a firefighter (volunteer), I would not have done what he did. I love and respect him, and I hope he never does this again.
@Earthinet
@Earthinet 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference between your friend and the people in the Video, is the reason why they ran into a building. A Smartphone is not a reason...
@joe0813
@joe0813 2 жыл бұрын
wait, youre a vollie and wouldn't go into a house fire to save peoples lives? The hell are you even on the department for? Quit and stick to your day job
@mitchellvasquez6071
@mitchellvasquez6071 3 жыл бұрын
i am in the fire Academy now, currently going through fire dynamics. Thank you for all of your insight!
@samlittleton1491
@samlittleton1491 2 жыл бұрын
where are you a FF at? Im a 3 year FF very young in the service at a busy dept and I appreciate your videos!
@davsim4116
@davsim4116 3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that fire department today no longer use a reel hose. Back in the day you could knock down a fire very quickly as the pump could be engaged from the cab and you just grab and go. Is there a reason they are no longer used?? Seems it would be better suited for VFDs
@Howery98
@Howery98 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you ask this! I work for this department and after a small porch fire last week, I asked the same question. On our newer trucks we have booster reel lines that we use for trash and debris fires, but try to steer clear of them on structure fires, car fires, etc., because we get more volume out of our preconnected hand lines!
@JuliaMtF
@JuliaMtF Жыл бұрын
The only thing i could criticize for this is the fact that they didnt employ the deck gun, we've all seen what that can do after a couple seconds and on this fire that's the first thing i thought of.
@skymusic29
@skymusic29 2 жыл бұрын
Notice the difference of the fire at the front door between when the last person comes out at 6:00 minute mark of the video and 6:45 . Only 45 seconds between coming out unscathed and most likely burned.
@anthonyj.adventures9736
@anthonyj.adventures9736 2 жыл бұрын
That fire traveled so fast across that roof. That's because of the weather treating chemicals in the wood and that air can surround and feed the flames. Same for the deck/railings. That's makes it difficult. To enter the structure with extreme heat and alot of fire.
@jerryhughes5380
@jerryhughes5380 Жыл бұрын
Rig positioning Alert! 2nd and 3rd arriving Engine Co's need to back down (don't pull down) on the scene or you'll tag with the first engine or truck. This prevents you from dropping hose off the back step and pulling away to an available fire hydrant in the opposite direction of the main fire building. Chief Hughes Battalion 1 (ret) Chicago FD
@millahnna
@millahnna 9 ай бұрын
I'm just a layperson but I'm one who is irrationally scared of fire (like in a hypervigilant way that is honestly kind of bad, I'm working on it). I think a lot of people go back into fires like that because they genuinely don't get how fast fire moves. Make them watch the Station Nightclub fire video; they'll get it then.
@ericmanasso9677
@ericmanasso9677 Жыл бұрын
You should add that it's a wind driven fire and how it affects attack and tactics
@skipd9164
@skipd9164 2 жыл бұрын
In that type of situation would someone offering help pulling hose. Not close and fighting fire. I have worked with FF at natural gas emergencies. I could not back then watch 2 firefighters fighting a fire like that
@slapcheezits2699
@slapcheezits2699 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I’m part of my local volunteer fire department. And I was wondering if joining a seasonal wild land firefighter job over the summer would look good on a resume for if I wanted to join a full time big city department? Or is it just not worth it.
@fireguy284
@fireguy284 3 жыл бұрын
2 different animals but the experience will help you by learning basic command and control structuring. Trust me when I say it's not all about experience but more about personality and willingness to learn when choosing the right candidate. More often than not someone who has been on the job for years is harder to train because they're set in their ways. Most houses like newer candidates because they can mold them into what they want them to be. This is 33yrs of experience speaking so I've seen em come and go.
@xzxxx2351
@xzxxx2351 3 жыл бұрын
Also the IAFF is against volunteers and see them as enemy #1
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 3 жыл бұрын
@@xzxxx2351 Bullshit. Democrat governments are the #1 enemy. I don't care what the IAFF says, VFD's are NOT an enemy. I know hundreds of guys that are both IAFF members and volunteers.
@cambamwardamn1468
@cambamwardamn1468 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on several different structure fire where it was me and an driver/operator for around 30-45mins waiting on mutual aid. Mondays thru Fridays are the worst since we may only get one or two members to respond because others are working there normal jobs.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
Here the retained firefighters like the lifeboats have to live and work in a certain radius
@stevecooper2873
@stevecooper2873 Жыл бұрын
Oh, my, been there.
@donalddodson7365
@donalddodson7365 3 жыл бұрын
"Stupid is as stupid does." Well done attempt to educate people ... sometimes I feel it is a hopeless cause, but we got to try. Thanks.
@rbspider
@rbspider 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had gone back into my unit . Fire was on third floor front top left side , I was on bottom floor rear right. Fire never reached unit everything was destroyed by water. I could have easily thrown stuff out windows. Also wish I had left a slider door opened , lots of items lost because water got to over a foot before FD opened slider . Never thought a fire on a porch would take out a building but it spread through attic before FD could put it out . They never entered building to fight from inside . Blocked access to rear of building rendering two other towns from deploying equipment .
@anthonyj.adventures9736
@anthonyj.adventures9736 2 жыл бұрын
When you paused yo explain the weird layout notice how the 1 firefighter wiyh a handling is knocking down fire closest to the doorway to cool it for search and rescue. They said it was hot. That's a problem.
@TheWaynelds
@TheWaynelds Жыл бұрын
May I recommend doing a breakdown of The Station Nightclub fire (which happened in Rhode Island in 2003). It happened during a concert and there’s a video that actually shows the fire starting inside the building and quickly intensifying. I found it a very interesting event to research.
@karlahemphill3414
@karlahemphill3414 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the education. Godbless you
@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@rohnkd4hct260
@rohnkd4hct260 3 жыл бұрын
30 years as a fireman, I have been to fires like that.
@miasmith268
@miasmith268 6 ай бұрын
There was a vid of a woman who burned to death while firefighters snapchatted pics. As a firefighter i am wondering why no one is saying that 1. The fighters on scene were not told of an entrapment and 2 the only result if a firefighter had gone in a home fully involved like that one would have been two dead people instead of one. I think the Captain knew this and chose not to tell the crew... If I hadbeen the dispatcher I might have tried harder to get the woman to self-rescue. Of course the dispatcher most likely didn't know how dire the situation was.
@jeremyfisher8512
@jeremyfisher8512 3 жыл бұрын
"aww shit my beer, hold on guys it might still be cold"
@spannaspinna
@spannaspinna 2 жыл бұрын
Just grab a bottle of jack Daniels sit in the gutter and watch it burn ,then maybe start looking for a new Sunday sesh bar
@TubeDupe
@TubeDupe 3 жыл бұрын
It's not so much a backdraft as the ceiling being on fire.
@captaincodebook3200
@captaincodebook3200 3 жыл бұрын
7:04 to your point of small and understaffed departments...DECK GUN BLITZ ATTACK...you have water on the truck for a reason. A quick knockdown will give you the time to establish a water supply, evacuate/rescue, get staffing closer... if you wait for that stuff you are that much more involved in fuel load and heat...USE YOUR WATER
@queeniemoonwalker
@queeniemoonwalker Жыл бұрын
I laughed quite a few times with the horn censoring the swearing. Love your videos!
@brianrobinson9602
@brianrobinson9602 Жыл бұрын
what i never understand is how departments don't train on best equipment positioning. They have a quint and they stopped far away from where they can be effective. The other thing i don't understand is i rarely see deck guns or large volume hoses being deployed for large volume of fires. I understand minimal man power you need to work with what you have but that quint, positioned effectively could have put a big knock on that fire quickly
@watchthe1369
@watchthe1369 2 жыл бұрын
30 seconds to a minute with a 2 man crew, they are awesome. They got water pressure pronblems too, damn.
@USMC1984
@USMC1984 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a new viewer so I’m a little late to this fire scene. I was a firefighter for several years in a small rural community, I’m amazed at what I didn’t see at this scene, police officers, in SW Oklahoma any time there is a fire anywhere a police officer or sheriff will be first on scene and they control the crowd, keeping idiots from going back into the structure or getting spectators away from the scene.
@TheConjurersTower
@TheConjurersTower 2 жыл бұрын
Those two guys got water running so fast, really good job.
@wiretamer5710
@wiretamer5710 Жыл бұрын
I think its worth spelling out why you don't go into a burning building, EVEN IF the view through the door is free of fire and smoke. Invisible poisonous gasses could knock you out after a breath or two. Super heated air could hit you and cause life threatening injuries in seconds. You could breathe super heated air and this will cook your lungs. Fires can change in seconds, and fill a room with deadly smoke before you can turn around. The fire could be in the walls or roof, and the whole lot could collapse on you at any second. All this is why fire fighters don't go in without protective gear and Oxygen. The sad truth about being a hero in a fire: If a person can’t get out on their own, the fire will not let you make it out, if you try to save them.
@RXSVN_2
@RXSVN_2 3 жыл бұрын
The first one looks similar to the footage from the station nightclub fire. With a similar detail..., someone ran back into the nightclub to get their guitar. And the fire was burning the same way.
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the situation. if it's a small amount of flames , a fire extinguisher might work. if one part of the building is on fire but not the other you may have time to save someone or some animals . it's not so cut and dry to say do t run into a burning building . My neighbors house caught fire but it was only the furniture that was ablaze when i came upon it . i was able to go i by holding my breath and using a garden hose to slow things down until the fire dept. arrived . they say i save the house . so blanket statements like you are making creates fear in people's minds rendering them incapable of seeing the situation for what it is .
@alexbrown3311
@alexbrown3311 Жыл бұрын
Is it SOP for them to place the engine past the structure?
@sirensofdauphincounty4003
@sirensofdauphincounty4003 Жыл бұрын
I know down in pa you can't go enroute with 2 people unless it's entrapment but love your vids they are very entertaining and informative kepp up the good work
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 жыл бұрын
BudLight? more like Bud Alight!
@valandilelfstone
@valandilelfstone 3 жыл бұрын
I did a little fire training in my 20s not actually carried on though I totalled 3 months, I was for 33 yrs in security, although in the UK its a dead beat boring job for the most part, I worked for a couple of companies and had seen some things in my time, in times of emergency you really get to see the true nature of people especially when a fire alarm goes off or you have an area tapped off for suspect package, and the we are special brigade start on one, we have to get passed you can't stop us your exceeding your authority, best one was working at the NEC the night before a show opened the last finishing touches to stands and night cleaners we just going in when the fire alarm went off, indicting a problem in the service tunnels as our site fire crew were entering the tunnels they were ordered back out a high voltage mains cable blew out and caught fire these cables are over a foot thick, the fire set off the CO2, West Mids fire service arrived at this point we had the halls cleared in 2 mins as the fire alarm activated, we were outside from 8pm till 11:30pm and the amount of people who started demanding to get back in after 40mins even seeing fire engines arriving on twos and blues, the general point they moaners made, we see no fire no smoke, my reply well no the fire in underneath the hall and until we get an all clear you stay there and wait, the never like being told no, the threats the promises of sackings, I really enjoyed my work in security even actually tackling a couple of fire situations while waiting for the fire service to attend, though one can't do that now as in UK all fire hose have been removed from businesses and fire extinguishers are only good to help one escape the fire area, no fire is an element not to be messed with or taken lightly, the only people who should walk into a fire ground are those paid to play with it, these usually have full PPE and air supply and are holding a hose full of an endless supply of H2O, if one is still unconvinced and want to be a fool well remember, Burns really hurt and scar
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 3 жыл бұрын
I still see signs in ireland for house reels especially in tescos
@Jacob-mm8xq
@Jacob-mm8xq Жыл бұрын
yea defiantly going to say volunteer department, where I'm from I know they tone out the two neighboring departments when there is a structure fire since it takes so long to get mutual aid.
@joeturner2370
@joeturner2370 2 жыл бұрын
Never go in unless there's a life involved
@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber
@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber 3 жыл бұрын
FFNOW, thanks for this video. It was a random recommend from YT algorithm, but I think I'm going to start watching more of them. Regarding this one... I am amazed at the guy who ducks out at 5:59 like, "I'm good. What's up?" Love the look on the officer's face at 9:40 - at least, I assume that's the officer. He's in the right seat. Good call from the guy talking about how the power lines are gonna catch. I bet the fire started because of carelessness with a cigarette. Some people only smoke when they're drinking, and drinking makes you careless.
@alexkitner5356
@alexkitner5356 3 жыл бұрын
Not trying to bash them but rather give some thoughts to help people operate better. The initial truck should have pulled up a little further with the idea that you're going to have the potential for aerial ops and that extra 20 feet would be helpful for reach and better angle without getting into a bad spot. Also, a small handline is kind of a waste to lead off since they seem to have a plug on the corner to hit, a 2-1/2 even if its just looped and sat on because of the single firefighter would be what I'd pull if not a blitzfire or deluge device. If not that then I'd have the single firefighter helping get the truck set up quickly and put that stream to work even if used at a shallow angle like a deck gun.
@negansstuntdouble1777
@negansstuntdouble1777 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the ladder arrived with the other truck that were eventually on the corner and couldn't make the turn because of the first line being streched? Thus limiting they'r'e eventual needed position// Also may have beeen re-directed or another due ladder that eventually arrived was sent purposely back there cause actually there was no rear or adjacent structure manpower and setup? Make any sense?
@traildog_adventures
@traildog_adventures 3 жыл бұрын
With a 2 man crew and fire blowing out like it was on arrival don't feel like you have to go straight to a preconnect handling. Grab a ground monitor of whatever sort you have. You will put out a lot more fire and more than likely be able to go straight in with a handline when the next due company arrives
@bigdmac33
@bigdmac33 2 жыл бұрын
First Ward Saloon, St. Joseph, Missouri in 2015.
@josephg3739
@josephg3739 Жыл бұрын
Your right don't go in an see if theirs anyone in there
@davidcookmfs6950
@davidcookmfs6950 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this about a week ago. I was stunned.
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok 3 жыл бұрын
One of many commonalities of the first responders: We all deal with stupid, irrational, and/or intoxicated people. There is no property that is worth risking life, limb, or weeks in the hospital over. No matter what you think, if the professional tells you it is too dangerous, listen to them.
@malikisaiah3126
@malikisaiah3126 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vids definitely enlightening I start my fire academy in a little over a month and you have been a huge help. also is there any differences between Federal firefighters and State firefighter?
@patrickm9366
@patrickm9366 2 жыл бұрын
This looks so badass, I start academy in 3 weeks I can’t WAIT
@JoelBulger
@JoelBulger 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
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