Why Switch 2 Will Be a Farewell For Many Iconic Nintendo Developers - EP139 Kit & Krysta Podcast

[@Pretzelness]

Kits hair grows so fast lol

[@dannyboots]

Miracle grow

[@joefrost1988]

Was thinking the same thing

[@audreyscrapaloup]

Thought the same too!

[@mrbroadwaydork]

It really does!

[@Lucarioguild7]

Kit is secretly a wolf man

[@PaulGaleNetwork]

Here’s to another podcast! And here’s to Nintendo Switch 2 having plenty of excellent titles from our favorite developers. 😁

[@spendingfoil3964]

NO Nintendo Switch 2 🚫

[@PaulGaleNetwork]

It’ll eventually get here!

[@TheCheesenothinbro]

I'm the audience for the ultralong Atlus JRPGS! It's about falling in love with the comfort of the system and getting inmersed and entrenched in them in a way that becomes your personality. It's like rewatching a show you love but just in one long playthrough. The longer the better for me, and I'll grind it out longer. The menus are sublime because you're going to be spending FOREVER staring at the same ones. There's joy in that

[@soda5439]

Krysta's bringing out those fabulous outfits lately. 😍

[@dannyboots]

11:25 the diss 😂

[@steviemeeks]

I did not think I would wake up today and have Kit and Krysta make me question the fragility of life 😂

[@leftyfourguns]

Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey are incredible games. They gave me the same sense of discovery I had with Ocarina of time and Mario 64. More importantly my nieces and nephews were blown away by them. I think the future of Nintendo is in good hands. The newer generations of developers have unquestionably inherited the DNA of the Nintendo legends.

[@paparick6234]

Kit doesn't even need a PS Portal! He can stream PS5 games on his Steam Deck 👀

[@KuroNekoNetwork]

That Krysta backhand was like a charged smash attack 😂

[@bbarrett726]

I checked out Balatro this weekend because of Kit's comments. And I gotta say, I didn't think I'd get so hooked!

[@squidee]

Talking about developers who aren't household names really made me think about how important game preservation is. After all, a lot of these games are a part of the legacy for hundreds of developers.

[@dg-vc8fz]

Awesome video guys keep up the great work!!! p.s in a storytime segment i would like to hear the making of the finding luigi parkour video if you had a part in making it!!!

[@TheBrownLamb]

In a way I hope this means new younger developers rise up within Nintendo. I want more new and creative IP and shocked the Switch was so absent of it compared to other eras

[@faydaway]

For atlus RPGs, sure they are long games, but for me they are very easy games to digest. After 1 or 2 dungeons in persona, the games structure is made clear, and the parts where the story progresses are very clearly demarcated. You can quickly skip to these if you want, which makes the game run faster. Personally, during many sections of the game I listen to a podcast at the same time, which is pretty easy to do, and then devote full attention during the story/climatic areas. I get that the game is long, but it's pretty doable, usually the systems become very intuitive and you can understand what you want to see and what you don't.

[@ArchAngel_M81]

I started Persona 5 Royal almost a year ago. I picked it up on a Black Friday sale. I played it pretty regularly. I would say I played maybe 3 - 4 hours a day. Unfortunately, I got stuck on the space man boss of the fifth palace.

[@vin_1113]

Same, its like the difficulty just spiked instantly

[@guardiandee]

1:09:29 In regard to the Metaphor time question, a bit of a long response: When it comes to long rpgs in general, I will tend to divide my game time into a long term game and a short term game. For long term games, when I have a long period of free time, I can invest a couple hours to knock out a dungeon or two. Doing it this way means I play for a couple months, but it means I don't get burnt out since the long breaks give me a feeling of "I want to play more" but also not too inconsistent where I lose interest either. My short term game time is something I play when I need a break or only have a bit of time available, and I can knock out a game in a couple days or weeks. This means I have one long term game I play, but can knock out a couple shorter games for variety. Now there are exceptions, especially when I am extremely familiar with a game like Metaphor or Xenoblade. I know the gameplay style, I know the flow of combat, I have a generally good idea of the pacing and what strategies I can use. In those circumstances, I personally can binge through that game in a month, but it ends up being the only game I play. If we average 3 hours a day (some days more than others, like weekends, some shorter, workdays), then that's 90 hours in a 30 day period. It is a lot, but it's an exceptional circumstance for a game I will be invested in. That way, even tho it is a lot of game to play, it ends up not feeling like it in that time span. Finally, the gameplay loop for turn based games means you can tend to multitask in sections with just combat and music you heard before. You can put on a podcast, video, or even movie, and just go through it during these more "grindy" sections. The platoform device you get the game also helps, as portable is just better in general since you can feel less restricted on where you are playing. Edit: Don't get me wrong tho, not every game should be this long, and taking breaks between long games is important. Make sure to plan mentally to go through a long game, then plan for that break after finishing the game. Mental health is more important in the long run

[@Pokeball35]

In the talk about Splatoon 3 at 1:48:30 , I don’t feel like you’re understanding what kind of story Splatoon is going for. It may take place 13,000 years from now, but it also parallels our modern day. It’s still 2024 and it’s still 2024 in the Splatoon universe. All of the characters age and grow in real time with each installment. The Squid Sisters were 18 in Splatoon 1 and now they’re all in their mid 20’s. If we got a “Splatoon 3 Ultimate” the world would not progress. I’m a massive Splatoon fan who’s put 2K hours into S3 alone and thousands more in the other games. Time needs to move forward and things need to change. I don’t understand the idea of the game being a “2.5” when so much has changed when you look more in-depth. So much gameplay wise changed between 2 and 3 and it makes it so I never want to play Splatoon 2 ever again. Splatoon 4 should come out in about another 2 years or so so we can see how much the world has changed. The era of the Squidbeak Splatoon and the Octarians is over. What happens next?

[@SergKhrypun]

1:30 Japan vlogs are really cool guys!

[@Goldmight]

a goodbye to the greats, but a new era begin

[@user-uq2ko4jq2v]

4:30 -- yep that's how we do it. 😂

[@tuskoub]

I beat Persona 4 Golden within a couple weeks and Persona 3 Reload earlier this year in a month. I 100%ed both. For the times I played through them, I binged through only them and every other game fell to the side. I did indeed find myself playing games more hours a day during those playthroughs.

[@dannyboots]

Once all the OG devs move on I trust their choices of whom should take their positions.

[@Gabriel-y2o]

A statue of Miyamoto doing a monster jam on Sonic? - Wow Kit, I love that idea to be honest haha!

[@Mithos05]

I think the main thing to realize is that some people just enjoy the world and setting and aesthetic of the open-world game they're playing so much that they are HAPPY to do everything. It keeps them in the world longer with something to do. It's may not necessarily be that collecting feathers or Koroks or whatever is fun, but that it encourages them to explore the world and gives them some kind of minor satisfaction for doing so. I 100% Dragon Age Inquisition, Shadow of Mordor, Assassin's Creed 2, Sonic Frontiers, Jedi Fallen Order and Cyberpunk 2077 for example (I realize not all of these are traditional open world, but they do still have a lot of open areas to explore). Sure some of the busy work itself wasn't necessarily fun, but exploring the world and discovering new places and vistas was what made it worth it, and the collectible or busy work was simply something to mark my exploration. I do agree that as a player, you need to not get caught up in doing everything just to do it, and find your limits on what you enjoy and what you don't, so that you can't see the game through to the end in a way that you can have fun. On the flip side, I never finished the original Red Dead Redemption because the menial tasks took me away from the rest of the game in a not-fun way, and I didn't care much about the overall world, it was the characters that carried that game for me. Find that balance and have fun, that's the lesson.

[@HaruVibes_]

Thank you for always being a constant force of positivity and great vibes. Youve made the hype and build up to Switch 2 that much more enjoyable.

[@Ratralsis]

Nice shirt once again, Kit!

[@MedalionDS9]

Cannot wait for the Tokyo vlog!

[@antonioaguilar7871]

Kit is so poetic

[@sirmel11]

Cool outfit, Krysta! Cool hair, Kit!

[@kamuilasia5813]

25:00 well said Krysta

[@HarmonicWave]

I was 5 years old when the NES came out in the U.S. I still feel like the Wii is a recent console and the Switch just came out like 4 years ago. Where has the time gone? We all got older. Miyamoto is almost as old as my mom, she's 73.

[@theteeman]

Here's to a new era! Quite an interesting week before Super Mario Party Jamboree comes out for Nintendo next week. "TODAY" will eventually be on Kit and Krysta's merch line. Just wait, it will be there someday

[@Etapia562]

I’ve been following y’all since breath of wild days and also since the beginning of this KZbin channel. Please keep it up! Love the videos

[@kaitoph]

Wow Kit looks great!

[@Noirlore]

17:20 this is important. People with stories to tell should be asked to tell them! 90% will be willing I feel

[@LocoTony64]

I'll be honest haven't finished the vid so I'm sure you mentioned this but Nintendo is in a really great position where when these legends retire I don't think it will greatly affect the output of their work. The generation of people that were trained by the legends are now training the newcomers. They have built an extremely strong intuition of game design knowledge that I don't think they will be affected by brain drain. Games like Mario wonder and Odyssey, Zelda BOTW/TOTK , Splatoon show what the new generation of developers are capable of so I think the games are in good hands. It will be a sad day when Miyamoto retires though :(

[@jasonball3496]

I am totally with you, Kit, about food not being particularly comforting! There's food that tastes way better than other food, but that's the extent of my relationship with it.

[@audreyscrapaloup]

Switch is for .: everyone :.. I had my half deaf and blind 91 year old mama play Animal Crossing. She was going around talking to the villagers and lasted about 20 minutes before giving it back saying "this is silly", but I know she had fun and I was amazed at how quickly she understood how to move around and talk to villagers. My retirement plan is to go through my collection of Nintendo games and being a proud gaming granny.

[@Bakanaben2]

I hope the successors will surpass the predecessors! Because I’m looking forward to playing the best games from the series I love!

[@jasonball3496]

Thank you as always for answering my question! It was fascinating and hilarious to hear about the guy who didn't recognize the original Super Mario Bros despite working at Nintendo. And yeah, Monopoly Deal is great. Wish I could see you guys' Nintendo Minute episodes that featured the Nintendo Monopoly(s), that sounds like it was fun.

[@TarasTCGFan]

Loved this episode ❤. The PS Portal is kinda a meme but I love it. Tbh it's a great addition if you already have a PS5 and enjoy the switch in portable mode. Walking around my house playing current Gen games kinda feels like the future is now kinda moment for me when I use it 😂

[@markieman64]

I can't wait to watch the Echoes of Wisdom spoilercast!

[@PrincePeace1]

I play turn-based and strategy RPG's almost exclusively. I focus on one game at a time and usually play 20-25 hours a week, so the longer JRPG's take me about a month to beat.

[@tertiumquid42]

2:00:06 I have that Monopoly set! I had to run and check my copy. Sure enough, "Zelda's Sword" 🤣

[@takenoprisoner42]

Yeah, doing a completionist run for games is not fun unless you’re really into the game. If it starts feeling like a chore, then i just do the story. I let people on youtube do the completion run for me and save my time by watching the side quests that i missed

[@nishquikpops]

As a fan of long RPGs, before I start a game I know is long (Xenoblade, Persona, Metaphor, etc.) I make sure I know it's going to be that long, there aren't any new releases I care about releasing close by, and I have some quick backlog games out of the way. Most of the games I play nowadays are 50+ hours and if I just don't play anything else I always get through with them without any struggle.

[@vaelegoro7782]

Golden era of Nintendo gaming coming to a close

[@jdn538]

12:14 Ur not the only one, i have never felt "comfort food"

[@jesseglenn8803]

I would argue for a very precise LEGO Halo

[@Orakio]

You are not alone Kit, not all of us find food comforting (I don't like eating in general).

[@jellojiggler1693]

I like eating sometimes, but I'd also love if I could just absorb proteins, carbs and the like.

[@Kajagoogoo3]

When we eventually have to say goodbye to the legends, hopefully, a talented next generation will prove themselves worthy of succeeding them and continue to further Nintendo's legacy.

[@inceptional]

Dang, this is kinda crazy when you think about it. I hope they have younger developers that can step into their shoes. I'm not actually 100% they do, but I guess we'll see.

[@FortWorthRaised]

Me and family got to go to Universal in Osaka during the event in December. It was super busy so we really didn’t get to take in Super Nintendo World like we wanted to. I recommend anyone remotely interested in going to Japan to do so though. I lost 7 pounds from all the walking we did in one week 😂

[@MNM_1064]

Interesting... 🤔 I'm trying to take all this in.

[@jarleklausenmusic]

I agree with Krysta. The story in Horizon Zero Dawn, and I would add Horizon Forbidden West, is one of the best stories in a game ever. For me, the Horizon series is my favorite among open-world games. I like the side quests and the deep interaction you get with the characters in the story. I'm definitely buying Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered and comparing it to the original Horizon Zero Dawn. I'm looking forward to playing LEGO Horizon Adventures next month.

[@jorgeehernandez6930]

Krysta is looking very lovely 😍. Thanks guys

[@yooniversal7770]

would love to hear your thoughts on the Switch 2 "leaks". Personally I'm getting this feeling that this is all a red herring personally

[@tmbocelot]

Metaphor is going to be as long as you want to engage with it. If you want to make the most of the calendar system and try and do every possible side activity in the allotted time then it'll take you 100 hours to finish the game. If you just want to get to the end in about 40 hours you can crank down the difficulty and skip all optional content. I think most people end up doing something in between those two extremes. The appeal of these games is how beautifully they integrate the social system into the battle system. It's so long because it's weaving personal narratives into an overarching narrative and it's up to you what parts of that experience you engage with. If you've only scratched the surface of persona 5 then you didn't play long enough to see the real appeal of these games, so I really hope you give metaphor a chance to hook you in!

[@ZLProductions]

I want Jack & Dexter 2 remaster

[@MellowFelloh]

I agree about the Persona games being too long. At hour 60 of Personal 5 I was riding the high and would give it a 9/10 but then found out I'm not even halfway and by the time I beat it I got tired of the whole thing and had a guide next to me just to speed through dungeons faster. Id give it a 7/10 by the end. It's just too bloated. Metaphor being an 80 hour experience is much more consumable thankfully, the setting helps too

[@SirDrago]

Krysta, if you want to play ps5 games in bed, just get a tablet floor stand and pair a ps5 controller with your ipad. I bought a tablet floor stand earlier this year and it’s a great way to play comfortable in bed.

[@AncientSkullKid]

On the topic of Nintendo continuing a franchise without the original creator… There will always be a Smash Bros on every home console. Some day, Sakurai will say no… …and I 100% guarantee that Nintendo will make a Smash Bros without Sakurai.

[@theominousanne]

This isn’t the end; it’s only the beginning. :)

[@Zachruff]

By Strong Museum do you mean the Museum of Play in Rochester, NY? I've actually been there before so was surprised to hear that mentioned.

[@kitandkrysta]

Yes, that's the one!

[@Zachruff]

@@kitandkrysta Damn, didn't know cool things happened there. Hopefully it was when I wasn't a student at RIT cuz I'd be sad if I missed it

[@AmbiVA-g8d]

Ayo kit got the Zink drip

[@sirmel11]

He spoke to 350 people for the book I think?

[@DanielMonteiro87]

Krysta looks taller in this episode.

[@jermainewright1757]

Switch was developed by younger developers , myamoto isnt involved because he is creative fellow , nintendo will survive on its own.

[@two-nichegaming4482]

1:02:33 The word of the day is CRUNCHY, lol. Nowadays everybody wants the most bang for their buck, in regards to replay value. Additional complicated mechanics is the most recent way to add value to a game, look how the rules in Yu-Gi-Oh have progressed (I have no idea, lol). The only reason I can think of why a gamer would put themselves through that would be to support a new/old series they started watching (and they choose not to play the earlier games to learn the battle systems, cough-rista)... and that's 'Sir Crunchy' to all you non-otaku's, muha haha hah, *fixes glasses*, lol.

[@Disciplined_Fate]

The Halo news made me feel upset the first time I heard it a couple of days ago. I remember reading something being reported months ago like 343 Industries will no longer develop Halo games or loss the license by Microsoft so they could give it to another studio instead. Halo 4 and 5 weren't that good and Halo Infinite was considered a big failure. Months later, I feel like I was lied to after learning 343 Industries changed its name to Halo Studios. We all know the only good Halo games were 1,2,3, and Reach which was made by Bungie anyway. The 343 Industries era of Halo was bad. Halo Studios is just the same company. A new different studio should have given the Halo license.

[@spacechannelg6843]

krysta i thought we had the same taste in husbandos girl!? u dont think strohl is sexy?! he looks like every cliche anime hunk omg. also i decided to get re fantazio a bit later in the year i just cant do another 100 hr plus jrpg. im still playing shin megami and p5 tired me out. idk how some people juggle that many games

[@Josh_Daniels]

41:44 💀💀💀

[@oshcara]

nintendo owns them until theyre 90 theyre good for the switch 3

[@soccerzz5]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@sirmel11]

What makes an open world game boring? No story and too much freedom. I want a game to tell me a story, not given me the freedom to just walk around. Zelda got so boring to me. I wanted more story, I wanted more voice acting. At least give an option of what to do next and for people who want to be blind, have fun.

[@sirmel11]

A small amount of cutscenes scattered across the world is boring. Xenoblade does open world a lot better. Things are better segmented.

[@jaynukem1929]

Krysta is such a beautiful Attractive Woman. And it's not just about her looks. It's the whole package with her personality. But enough about that, lets continue to talk about Nintendo.

[@jaynukem1929]

This episode is kind of depressing.

[@c1ask0]

It’s a shame that so many of these Executives are men.

[@MaisieSqueak]

He functions exceptionally well under it but i DO believe Kit may be somewhere on the Autistic spectrum. Something worth checking if some things are just a bit too debilitating at times. He's clearly got a very no-compromise discipline in many things which is something of a hallmark.

[@kamuilasia5813]

In this industry haha. It be weirder if he wasn't

[@spendingfoil3964]

Hay hey hey hey hey NO Nintendo Switch 2 🚫👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

[@johnpolishimpossible2say191]

Splatoon 4 needs to be largely new. I cant play the same modes again. They also need to put more of the Splatoon 2 team on Splatoon 4. 3 supposedly had a bunch of new young ppl on ot qnd it didnt pan out. Maps were largely bad. The Splatfests lost the unique Turfwar stages, the DLC was also inferior to Octoexpansion.

[@aegisleague4053]

Metaphor’s demo made me feel sick. Game has major issues with an inconsistent framerate, assets shining, and motion blur, and an overcrowded artstyle. I wish more reviewers would comment on the graphics and performance.

[@Orakio]

I played it on PC and had no issues, but it was on a new PC.

[@sirmel11]

Why should they comment on that? Not everyone cares about all that stuff.

[@purpleorb]

Please make shorter videos! I’ve been watching you guys since the Nintendo Minute days and two hours is definitely more than a minute and more than I have time for. When I see 2 hours, I don’t even bother to watch. I think you will get more views if you keep most videos to around 20 minutes.

[@BintiBeez]

This is a podcast and no podcast is 20 minutes. They range from like 40 min to beyond an hour or so. With everything K&K want to cover that has happened the last week, that can't be done in that short of a time. They have have other videos that are shorter.

[@purpleorb]

Then please make more shorter videos in addition to the podcast. I would like to know about the end of en era, but I don’t have 2 hours to spend. I’m sure I’m not the only one. I think it would help increase your viewership. Just letting you know.

[@sirmel11]

This is a podcast. They did shorter videos like they used to, they underperformed so they slowed down on doing them. The podcast gets the most views usually so that's why it's here. This was talked about in an interview with them. The video literally has sections under it and on the video itself so you can watch whatever topic you want.

[@Disciplined_Fate]

@@purpleorb They do make shorter videos like Kit & Krysta 64 (formerly called Kit & Krysta Show). Sometimes they do make smaller videos for big news stuff. Then sometimes they cut a highlight from the Kit & Krysta Podcast as its own video. Just don't watch podcast episodes like this and only watch their smaller videos then. Problem solved.

[@jellojiggler1693]

You could workout/drift to sleep/play video games with it on in the background. I just lifted weights and rowed for an hour while I listened to this.