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5 ай бұрын

Progress on the battlefield between Russia and Ukraine has slowed in both directions. Andrew Chang explores Russia's "elastic defence" tactic and why Ukraine is struggling to find a strategic edge.
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@skellurip
@skellurip 5 ай бұрын
it's always been kinda weird when the media keep reporting massive russian military losses while never reporting any ukrainian millitary losses
@sabin97
@sabin97 5 ай бұрын
it's the ws doctine of "non-whites bad". they do it to russia(who was kicked out of the whites-only club many decades ago), china, india, south africa, niger, brasil, and every other non-white who refuses to kowtow.
@hiryu70
@hiryu70 5 ай бұрын
If you watch only western media than yes
@ridwanomar5351
@ridwanomar5351 5 ай бұрын
I never believed it they thought that would work on people.
@RK-ds7im
@RK-ds7im 5 ай бұрын
Even this videos attempts to portray Russian losses as higher. The truth is that more Ukrainian soldiers have died/injured by a rate of at least 5-10 times more.
@charlyf9521
@charlyf9521 5 ай бұрын
@@RK-ds7imyes your deep analysis proves that clearly
@ngangavictor5556
@ngangavictor5556 5 ай бұрын
They laughed at the Russians when they were building the defensive lines claiming how easy it would be for Western engineering equipment to demolish the line.
@mohamedmido4866
@mohamedmido4866 5 ай бұрын
No , the germans told them that they can rotate around the Russian Mines with their fancy Leopard 2
@ejimayang3687
@ejimayang3687 5 ай бұрын
​@@mohamedmido4866😂😂😂
@varionbranzuela6894
@varionbranzuela6894 5 ай бұрын
Return of the joke
@jorsm.3893
@jorsm.3893 5 ай бұрын
except no one laughed
@yolomcswaggens9482
@yolomcswaggens9482 5 ай бұрын
@jorsm.3893 Except they did. Tonnes of articles about M1s and Leos yodelling to Crimea. Oops
@ShevchenkoAndrey1971
@ShevchenkoAndrey1971 5 ай бұрын
I'm a tank driver, but I admire the dragon's teeth. This product costs $16-18. It has been effective for more than half a century and has become many times more effective in combination with drones and modern artillery.
@Tethloach1
@Tethloach1 5 ай бұрын
Isn't it only effective if you can defend well? If you don't have an answer for each challenge posed by the opposition, isn't it game over? Which side will super impose their will on the other? Who has the edge in this conflict? How do the forces stack up. Who will prevail? Who will gain ground?
@magistic345
@magistic345 5 ай бұрын
​@Tethloach1 did you even watch the video?
@SergeyIvanov-su3nu
@SergeyIvanov-su3nu 5 ай бұрын
@@Tethloach1 Oh, so many questions... But, the person just shared his information and you started bombarding him with questions... It's even indecent
@Wilson24678
@Wilson24678 5 ай бұрын
I'm curious how it works, what happens when the tank run over it? got stuck? cannot push it aside?
@broadeningwedge
@broadeningwedge 5 ай бұрын
@@Wilson24678 It slows the tanks down, therefore exposing them to artillery, rockets, etc.
@MegaToyy
@MegaToyy 5 ай бұрын
Ukrainian population WAS (!) 43M before the conflict. And bear in mind Ukraine also officially claims and therefore includes Crimea and Donbass' population in their stats. (And that's about 6-8M)
@deno202
@deno202 3 ай бұрын
+ nearly 6 million refugees
@pacivalmuller9333
@pacivalmuller9333 3 ай бұрын
Some analyst said that the population is ow 20 millions, to compare, does not amtter if this is true or not, but just for comparison the Ukraine 1991 had 51-52 Millions.
@Mirage-pz
@Mirage-pz 3 ай бұрын
@@deno202wonder why the Ukranians didnt fight for their country and run away like middle east people.
@TyphoonUSSR
@TyphoonUSSR 3 ай бұрын
In 2017, officials in Ukraine officially admitted that there were 32 million left in the country. Human. Ukraine was and is the most impoverished, corrupt and unfree territory in Europe, where rapid population extinction occurred after 2014, when it finally collapsed. Now there is a maximum of 22 mil. population, because Most of the 10 million refugees moved to Russia.
@TyphoonUSSR
@TyphoonUSSR 3 ай бұрын
Ukrainians are waiting for the arrival of the Russian army, because they are Russians too. Ukrainians, like Taiwanese, do not have a different nationality from Russia or China.
@liuyifei1989
@liuyifei1989 5 ай бұрын
Anyone else remember military " experts" claiming russia was supposedly running out of precision guided muniton by March of 2022.
@BanzLanda86
@BanzLanda86 5 ай бұрын
They actually increased production and are manufacturing even more. They're still getting their chips and other western built chips and parts. The Chinese are obviously shipping parts as well.
@liuyifei1989
@liuyifei1989 5 ай бұрын
@@BanzLanda86 yup, anyone who thinks sanctions work is delusion
@svetlanavlasova2061
@svetlanavlasova2061 5 ай бұрын
@@sidewinderflanderswest7809 Thanks for a good joke to call them 'experts' -- you made me to burst in laughter.
@abdirahmanahmadalifarah926
@abdirahmanahmadalifarah926 5 ай бұрын
​@@sidewinderflanderswest7809proffesor micheal Clarke 😂😂😂 British propaganda expert
@Azrael1st
@Azrael1st 5 ай бұрын
Western media is full of false information.
@ameerhamza4046
@ameerhamza4046 5 ай бұрын
Finally a video where comments are not turned off…
@paddysyron
@paddysyron 5 ай бұрын
Yes finally
@tartrazine5
@tartrazine5 5 ай бұрын
CBC's fine with you discussing the brutality of war. It's issues like gender dysphoria that it silences.
@markkrauzer7187
@markkrauzer7187 5 ай бұрын
Look at russian bots. I wonder why you need to turn it off
@donny8593
@donny8593 4 ай бұрын
@@markkrauzer7187 or maybe not all just bot, but also sane people who can see the actual situation
@lizanderson1669
@lizanderson1669 4 ай бұрын
They have no fkn right to turn off comments we tax payers pay the fks for their lying BS they spew
@SinisterSkip
@SinisterSkip 5 ай бұрын
I'm impressed that CBC actually showed this item. Respect. However, the part "Russia is taking proportionally more casualties", is hard to believe in my view. Yes Russia is most likely taking much more casualties in Avdiivka as they are the attacker there. However, Russia has been on the defense for half a year+ on most of the combat line, to counter the Ukrainian 'greatest offensive'. Especially Robotyne has been a cauldron slaughterhouse of the Ukrainians. They keep sending troops there but they're surrounded on 3 sides and in a valley, with the Russians on hills. It's insanity. So 1. Russia is on the defense mostly 2. has air superioty 3. has greater artillery capacity 4. has greater drone production. Sorry but there's no way that Russia is taking 'proportionally more casualties' if you combine all the above, unless Ukraine has alien tech.
@Yurkuns
@Yurkuns 5 ай бұрын
besides all of that ukranians have the same cultural background as russians. it's not like they are some israeli army. they have roots in the same soviet army.
@karabomafa5609
@karabomafa5609 5 ай бұрын
Western Media always talk out of both sides of their mouth when it concerns this war
@BunkrMan
@BunkrMan 5 ай бұрын
@@karabomafa5609 🤣🤣🤣
@cetri777
@cetri777 5 ай бұрын
And yes russia has nuke
@VladVsevolod
@VladVsevolod 4 ай бұрын
Потери украинских нацистов в 5-10 раз больше чем у России. Этот ролик пропагандистский бред😂😂😂 В ролике сплошное враньё, смешно смотреть)
@NCrdwlf
@NCrdwlf 5 ай бұрын
When I told friends in the begining that ukraine was never going to win this, I got yelled at by some folks but after being a cold war soldier and knowing how the Russian warfare doctrine works , the writing was on the wall. While Russia made some glaring errors in the beginning they have continually forced Ukrainian units into pockets and destroyed them . Ukraine had defensive lines that had been improved upon for the last 10 years and the Russians slowly wore them down .
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine is used to analyze Russian strength
@icryptsky
@icryptsky 5 ай бұрын
Out of 2,600 Abrams tanks US supplied 30. No F-16 yet as well. What is the point of this?
@yurinalysis8034
@yurinalysis8034 5 ай бұрын
@@icryptsky Do you think its easy to transfer 100 Abram tanks to Ukraine in just a blink of an eye? Besides you need fuel and other logistic stuffs like tank rounds in order to operate them on the field.
@user-ib4wh2yq8d
@user-ib4wh2yq8d 5 ай бұрын
​@@yurinalysis8034зачем их перебрасывает. Если в Европе уже находиться войска США около 52 тысяч человек. 5 армейский корпус насчитвые око 300 танков Абрамс . так что твои слова не соответствуют реальности . а реальность такова что потеря Абрамса мешает пиару . вон Челленджер как пиарили что пришлось министру обороны Великобритании придумывать сказки.
@TreStyles-tq4le
@TreStyles-tq4le 5 ай бұрын
​@@freeflymonkeydamn you nailed it
@AbcDino843
@AbcDino843 5 ай бұрын
The most obvious answer to why Ukraine couldn't defeat the Russian fortified lines is because it couldn't reach them. But ultimately, the reason why it couldn't reach them is the same as why it wouldn't have been able to breach them, no air and artillery superiority.
@user-wz3ci8lc7c
@user-wz3ci8lc7c 5 ай бұрын
No. Russia just have more people and heavy industry. Pro-west Ukraine will fall anyway
@haziq0007
@haziq0007 5 ай бұрын
drones from Iran is deadly!
@float_sam
@float_sam 5 ай бұрын
@@user-wz3ci8lc7c and russia go on to the next country.
@rickylo3271
@rickylo3271 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-wz3ci8lc7cYour REAL father, Putin told you?
@mikeawesome9212
@mikeawesome9212 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-wz3ci8lc7cYo mama will fall anyway.
@gamewizard1760
@gamewizard1760 5 ай бұрын
This is how the USSR defended Moscow from the German advance. The Blitzkrieg relies on spearheads, breaking through the defensive line, then meeting up behind the enemy, and destroying the encircled forces. The Soviets denied this, by retreating the entire line, as soon a spearhead broke through anywhere along the line. This made the next line of defense stronger than the first one. If a spearhead broke through that line, they did it again, until eventually, the line was so strong that spearheads could no longer break through. They gave up huge amounts of territory, but they didn't care, because they knew they would win it all back when the German army depleted itself against their increasingly stronger defenses. The Ukrainians are falling into the same trap.
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
That's partially true - initially the encirclements worked and destroyed several million of the soviet red army but they kept pouring in unlimited men
@davidprokopchuk7013
@davidprokopchuk7013 5 ай бұрын
Unlimited? The USSR had Unlimited men in Afghanistan? The USA had Unlimited men in Vietnam?
@SnowTiger45
@SnowTiger45 5 ай бұрын
One big difference is that Germany had extended itself and could not resupply forces in Russia fast enough. Russia is extended now and Russia's resupply infrastructure is being damaged regularly ... the Train Tunnel being one recent example. "The Bridge" and it's approaches are being attacked just as the repairs are finishing from a previous attack. This is a war of attrition right now and now is when the UN should step in to both Ukraine and Palestine.
@tonyhart2744
@tonyhart2744 5 ай бұрын
@@SnowTiger45 few hundred kilometer at the russian doorsteps cant be compared to thousands km far and wide of ww2 logistic I do not doubt about ukraine ability but russian cant supply to it nearest neightbor ???? its laughable
@WangAiHua
@WangAiHua 5 ай бұрын
Au contraire frere bear! That has been Ukrainian strategy!
@Oregunian
@Oregunian 3 ай бұрын
You guys conveniently miss out the part when Russia was on the outskirts of Kiev and then started turning around after an almost finalized peace agreement brokered in Turkey. Thats when Boris Johnson is sent to Kiev to prohibit Kiev from finalizing any peace agreement.
@USB740
@USB740 5 ай бұрын
This is basically the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war but eastern European version. The defense in depth is the key to Russian victory like it was for us (Iraqis), if the Ukrainians are unable to overcome these defenses they will experience what the Iranians did in 1988, and then Russian forces go on the offense and take more land before Ukraine submits to a ceasfire. It will take some time to get there, but the precedent is there.
@SergeyIvanov-su3nu
@SergeyIvanov-su3nu 5 ай бұрын
A very clear and fair assessment. Why lose soldiers when you could have waited for the enemy to lose strength in minefields in attempts to storm fortified lines. Then, when the offensive impulse runs out, you can go on the attack on the weakened enemy yourself.
@palesskirabinzon4795
@palesskirabinzon4795 5 ай бұрын
not correct precedent here, because even at defence russia losing more sildiers and heavy equipment than ukraine. ukraine is lacking in equipmment but superior in military effectivness
@savagex466-qt1io
@savagex466-qt1io 5 ай бұрын
Um Iraq was not even close to takeing Iran. The man power of Iran alone. USA on the other hand crushed Sadam and his evil sons.
@USB740
@USB740 5 ай бұрын
@@savagex466-qt1io I am specifically refering to our major 1988 counter offensives that evicted Khomeini's troops and renewed offensives into Iran which resulted in occupation of 10,000 square km of Iran's territory and which resulted in the defeat of Khomeini's army.
@joecanteen7428
@joecanteen7428 5 ай бұрын
I hear you guy treat women like item, kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWa9oniNiMp-oJY
@Toroleco
@Toroleco 5 ай бұрын
its time to call in the legendary Ghost of Kiev.
@jptrainor
@jptrainor 5 ай бұрын
The ghost is busy defending Snake Island.
@Toroleco
@Toroleco 5 ай бұрын
that is a G A M E C H A N G E R bro @@jptrainor
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 5 ай бұрын
Snake oil Island
@jptrainor
@jptrainor 5 ай бұрын
​@@TorolecoIndeed, a game changer.... If it were video game.... I'm sure the developers could do wonders with that plot. The good, the evil, the hero ghost, the climax of the battle for snake Island. It's gold.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 5 ай бұрын
It has run out of anti-drone pickle jars.
@dave4deputyZX
@dave4deputyZX 5 ай бұрын
It's incredible that the mainstream media is only now talking about this. The independent commentators on youtube have been pointing this out for about 5 months or more, since about the start of the counteroffensive.
@glintongordon6811
@glintongordon6811 5 ай бұрын
The leaked documents spoke about it
@dave4deputyZX
@dave4deputyZX 5 ай бұрын
@@glintongordon6811 yes, but it has been clear to many skeptics for months and months that Ukrainian efforts to break through Russian defences were going badly, and doomed to fail. But only recently the mainstream media have been giving it much attention. This is because the western media have been acting as pro-war propagandists for NATO and unwilling to look at things objectively.
@benanders4412
@benanders4412 5 ай бұрын
People have been saying this from the beginning. Anyone with some knowledge of military history knew Ukraine would lose this war. NATO knew Ukraine was damned from the start, but they pushed it forward anyway. They never had the goal of Ukraine defeating Russia. They just wanted to hurt Russia, no matter the cost.
@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech
@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech 5 ай бұрын
​​@@benanders4412ironically. I think they have just made Russia stronger. Everyone who has felt bitter from their prior relationship with Europe or the US is now united. This is why we see many parts of Africa praise Russia. We have made Russia and China best friends. BRICS now produces more gdp than the G7. All the sanctions, invasions and unfair loans has given China business with other nations that should of been ours. Why would other nations pick US over China? We have behaved like bullies and can't offer infrastructure projects like the Chinese. The US military industrial complex has not been a wise investment. It's made the US look like mafiaso.
@dave4deputyZX
@dave4deputyZX 5 ай бұрын
@@benanders4412 absolutely. its insane that a supposed "free press" would just have a blanket silence on these obvious truths about the war. Western media servives western state interests almost as reliably as Russian media serves Russian state interests.
@stenyethanmathews945
@stenyethanmathews945 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine should have taken that peace negotiations 2 months after the war started. They would have kept all the territory they lost
@kusiyechikomo234
@kusiyechikomo234 4 ай бұрын
And they would have saved over 200,000 soldiers' lives in the process
@pitadriti9767
@pitadriti9767 4 ай бұрын
Don't be naive, they need their identity and total sovereignty - you don't understand what nationalism is really.
@cubanspy1231
@cubanspy1231 2 ай бұрын
@@pitadriti9767 lmao sure being the most corrupt eu contry its a thing to proud of
@BariMusawwir
@BariMusawwir Ай бұрын
they were going to negotiate but the zionist west told them not to and to choose war and insist on using ukraine as their missile launching ground against Russia !!
@Swagstro
@Swagstro 20 күн бұрын
@@kusiyechikomo234this is a guy that’s surreptitiously deceitful, and smart.. initial or ongoing deaths probably don’t cross his mind, he’s got a goal clearly
@FidelCastro404
@FidelCastro404 5 ай бұрын
Russia retreated as a gesture of goodwill to enable peace talks but Boris scuppered the talks told Zelensky to choose war
@DavidArgunetta
@DavidArgunetta Ай бұрын
👍
@vladimirdula
@vladimirdula 5 ай бұрын
"Russian forces collapsed"... what a joke🤣
@ivoivic2448
@ivoivic2448 3 ай бұрын
it's what the west keep telling themselves to feel better about biting the bait.
@sava411
@sava411 3 ай бұрын
they did in izyum
@ilistis
@ilistis 3 ай бұрын
No they sacrifice territory to save their army. At that point there was a small army, due to logistical mistakes, or maybe treason. I have little respect for Gerasimov and Soigu, I think they are small for this glorious country.
@smartFunable
@smartFunable 3 ай бұрын
Yeah they shitted their pants, they couldn't take Ukraine in the first month of war, when Ukraine didn't have any support from the west, and was in a huge machinery disadvantage. All their 2nd army in the world propaganda was exposed.
@ivoivic2448
@ivoivic2448 3 ай бұрын
@@smartFunable so much for murica clearing taliban from afghanistan in 20 years.
@SKumar-mj6gf
@SKumar-mj6gf 5 ай бұрын
Dont generalize world. China and India not against Russia. It's the West only fighting Russia.
@CoffeeCup1346
@CoffeeCup1346 5 ай бұрын
To India’s shame.
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
I'm British but think it's shameful how the west pretends it is the whole world
@mingouczjcz3800
@mingouczjcz3800 5 ай бұрын
It's not a generalization at all. Instead it just intentionally portraits the West as the whole world by ignoring the rest of the world.
@sabin97
@sabin97 5 ай бұрын
@@CoffeeCup1346 why would it be shameful for india to keep supporting its most reliable trade partner and military development partner? not kowtowing to whites isnt shameful.
@RutgerJan2009
@RutgerJan2009 5 ай бұрын
It's the west arrogance thinking that the west IS the WHOLE world... forgetting China / India is a joke (where do the majority of the people live...). The west does not realise that BRICS is the future.
@Agent_Paul
@Agent_Paul 3 ай бұрын
Russia wasn't forced to pull back, Ukraine negotiated a ceasefire and Russia accepted part of the terms, which included pulling its troops away from Kiev.
@ezwansafri8006
@ezwansafri8006 4 ай бұрын
At 2:58, is the world denying that the Russians withdrew as part of the ceasefire deal?
@barneymm2204
@barneymm2204 4 ай бұрын
The world isn't...
@SimakSantana
@SimakSantana 4 ай бұрын
losers
@thomasf.9869
@thomasf.9869 5 ай бұрын
The Russian multi-layered defence in Ukraine is a lot like the Soviet multi-layered defence at the battle of Kursk in WW2
@GazalAlShaqab
@GazalAlShaqab 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. And there is NO "wonder weapon" or technology against this "old school" war…
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 5 ай бұрын
As in identical? :) except, Russia lacks 1.2 mln troops for counter offensive?
@GazalAlShaqab
@GazalAlShaqab 5 ай бұрын
@@piotrd.4850 Does Russia really want a full scale counter-offensive? I am not sure, I do not know what Russia precisely wants. No one knows that.
@Nikolay_Grigoryev
@Nikolay_Grigoryev 5 ай бұрын
@@GazalAlShaqab Actually, Putin said exactly what Russia wants on day one.
@GardaOrban
@GardaOrban 5 ай бұрын
@@GazalAlShaqab everybody knows. In Russia in Israel we are fighting against Nazis
@TheBingLiam
@TheBingLiam 5 ай бұрын
In other words, Russia took what it wanted and Ukraine won't get it back
@angrysoybean1012
@angrysoybean1012 5 ай бұрын
Not exactly . Russia prevented the USA from taking what they wanted. Google the Brzezninski doctrine.
@cleomenes01
@cleomenes01 5 ай бұрын
​@StopFollowingTheClowns-sx5znRussia has Ukranian land in its possession and Ukraine has failed to retake this land. Call that whatever you want.
@bestbaza5780
@bestbaza5780 5 ай бұрын
not yet , wait
@Spazzfrom.1989
@Spazzfrom.1989 5 ай бұрын
@@cleomenes01 they MUST take the remainder of the 4 regions..they are Russia..they simply cannot leave it be.
@captainchaoscow
@captainchaoscow 5 ай бұрын
Russia wants to take your virginity.
@stanleymarucha8194
@stanleymarucha8194 5 ай бұрын
so your saying RUSSIA is playing chess in a gazebo while ukraine is playing in the sand box and it,s starting to rain
@ML-mp4zg
@ML-mp4zg 5 ай бұрын
The Ukraine war is already lost because the objectives (to regain all territories including Crimea) as set out by the Ukrainian Gov't have not been achieved. Air superiority would have been essential in this undertaking and a steady influx of cash and resources that would outperform the influx of cash and resources on the Russian side. This is a simple calculation and should have been taken into account and acted upon immediately at the start of the war. Russia has always had the potential to outperform Ukraine in terms of war economy and war output so there should be no surprise why Ukraine is losing right now. The spending by the West would have to match the current Russian spending and equipment replenishment, as well as a serious plan for achieving Ukraine's air superiority (F16 is NOT an air superiority jet - please look that up on your own as to why). I personally do not foresee any of those remedies happening. Ukraine will likely loose the Eastern Provinces and Crimea will remain Russian.
@VladVsevolod
@VladVsevolod 4 ай бұрын
Крым это и так Россия. О чем вы говорите?
@kevfinn5425
@kevfinn5425 4 ай бұрын
But NOT a square meter of it is safe for the occupiers or their ships. As witnessed by the Russian civilians pouring back over the half blownup Kerch bridge to Russia causing traffic jams eastbound. ​@@VladVsevolod
@whitescar2
@whitescar2 4 ай бұрын
The west is still more concerned with ensuring Russia does not lose, than committing to Ukraine winning. This is the fundamental problem.
@4everfatjoe
@4everfatjoe 4 ай бұрын
By this logic Russia has also already lost, multiple times during this war. They just keep moving their objectives.
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 4 ай бұрын
what kind of bizarre combination of substances are you consuming
@niv-hardzen
@niv-hardzen 5 ай бұрын
This war is NATO vs Russia, and Ukraine provides the soldiers to NATO. Ukraine has no chance without NATO support.
@WangAiHua
@WangAiHua 5 ай бұрын
Do you smoke to improve circulation to your brain?
@georgekaradov1274
@georgekaradov1274 5 ай бұрын
​@WangAiHua apperently smocking funny stuff is your forte as you are separated from reality...
@edwardvalivonis23
@edwardvalivonis23 5 ай бұрын
Yesterday you said Kyiv in 3 days, but today Moscow in 3 days
@Cotac_Rastic
@Cotac_Rastic 5 ай бұрын
​@@edwardvalivonis23 Sorry schzio, which Russian official said 3 days?
@watchingvids9899
@watchingvids9899 5 ай бұрын
@@WangAiHua Arguing in favor of sending NATO tanks and ACV/APC to Ukraine, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said EU countries were fighting a war against Russia. kzbin.info/www/bejne/inumm2aLaJh-hqs
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 5 ай бұрын
I hope everyone remembers the phrase "As long as it takes" when USA promised Ukraine to help defeat Russia, please remember this. Especially when the blame game finger pointing goes in overdrive.
@TrueDreeamss
@TrueDreeamss 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine should have knew that USA never kept promises about these issues in their history
@georgeapostol4285
@georgeapostol4285 5 ай бұрын
"As long as it takes" promise made Ukraine go back on the draft pace agreement w Russia reached in Istanbul in March 2022.
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 5 ай бұрын
@@georgeapostol4285 Boris Johnson went to Kyiv in March 2022 with American promise "As long as it takes" and "we will help you defeat Russians". Military industry is very happy about the outcome, just look at stock market.
@atianaru486
@atianaru486 5 ай бұрын
Когда то США-Европа обещали Ельцину, что НАТО не будет в нас ща несколько километров от Москвы. Ельцин кричал: боже храни омерику)). Обманули же, подло так, тихонечко..
@ericlee5515
@ericlee5515 5 ай бұрын
Well that was another lie as you see the current 4bn Ukraine aid being held for probably until 2024
@Soshiaircon91
@Soshiaircon91 5 ай бұрын
Dragon teeth and trenches doesnt work they say, Russian only send soldiers to the battlefield with shovels they say...
@Dias-hq8jd
@Dias-hq8jd 5 ай бұрын
It's really funny, they laughed at the bars on Russian tanks and anti-tank barriers, now we see the same bars on Merkava tanks and exactly the same barriers on Ukrainians
@francohsu4245
@francohsu4245 5 ай бұрын
That first lady spend 2million usd on a single shopping trip😂 they spent us dollars so happiliy😂
@darkmatter5424
@darkmatter5424 5 ай бұрын
"This war has no clear winner..." Denial is a river in Egypt. 😅
@captainchaoscow
@captainchaoscow 5 ай бұрын
People thought Russia has a powerful military, know the whole word saw that it is corrupt and incompetent. Except cheap Russian oil and cheap Russian women Russia has not much to offer the rest of the world. Such loosers... couldn't even win the cold war despite having allegedly the best economic system.
@trikyy7238
@trikyy7238 5 ай бұрын
Well, who won?
@vickyray6042
@vickyray6042 5 ай бұрын
Well, western countries supporting this war expected Russia to collapse economically and militarily when the Ukrainian army started their push back and it was expected that the war would be over in an year. Now the EU is experiencing inflation, high energy prices and job losses, and Russia is bouncing back. So in my opinion if the Ukrainian army is not able to push back the Russians then Russians are the winner. This war has also transformed its army to upgrade itself to the tech level used by the NATO and also exposed some of NATO's weakness. If NATO were smart they would have applied tough sanctions on Russia, during the initial phase and then go for negotiation conceding little territory, keeping Ukraine out of NATO, all the while keeping the sanctions on..This would have hurt the Russians more, but now the territory which the Russians are agricultural gold mines.
@captainchaoscow
@captainchaoscow 5 ай бұрын
@@vickyray6042 So with seizing this Ukrainian territory Russia can choke the Afdricans and the Arabians. Russia doesn't need to export just cheap oil and cheap Russian women. Hmm... clever.
@captainchaoscow
@captainchaoscow 5 ай бұрын
So it's time for Russia to take back Alaska.@@miachlmyersdonutz1344
@jptrainor
@jptrainor 5 ай бұрын
CBC catching up with what every intellectually honest independent commentator has been explaining for a long long very long long time.
@joeylopez7978
@joeylopez7978 5 ай бұрын
They slowly changing the narrative hoping that people won't notice they're just pro Ukrainian propaganda.
@teslawatshipi1329
@teslawatshipi1329 5 ай бұрын
The military complex has stopped paying...they are cutting losses
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 5 ай бұрын
lol, literally after the offensive failed weeks ago.
@MuantanamoMobile
@MuantanamoMobile 5 ай бұрын
No. The deciept is subtle, by redefining a loss as a stalemate.
@balaclavabob001
@balaclavabob001 5 ай бұрын
The piad russian shills have been saying it but now russia has lost 320,000 + for zero gained ground . Infact they now hold less than they did before the recent invasion . Meanwhile in moscow , people form lines to buy eggs lol putin has destroyed his country .
@mrsporty9669
@mrsporty9669 5 ай бұрын
Sad situation for people of Ukraine. Ukraine got chance to stay neutral and peaceful. But unfortunately Ukraine government took wrong decision.
@FirstNameLastName-ov3cw
@FirstNameLastName-ov3cw 4 ай бұрын
THAT IS WRONG: _>"But unfortunately Ukraine government took wrong decision."_ THIS IS CORRRECT: Ukrainian slaves did what their American masters ordered.
@vadimnagano
@vadimnagano 5 ай бұрын
The war of attrition is not a stalemate by definition, because one side is bound to ran out of resources due to attrition. Same goes to people. Unlike Ukranians, Russians have been using its people sparingly, because they had an advantage in artillery, air support, drones and ew capabilities.
@VitorJKhan
@VitorJKhan 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Exact. By that, Ukraine lost 1.2 million soldiers. But Russia lost 0.15 million soldiers.
@timtio5622
@timtio5622 5 ай бұрын
​@@VitorJKhan i do not think, that Ukranians lost that much soldiers. Maybe 400k. As for the russians, i think we lost less soldiers (110 k or smth)
@user-yn8vl4dy8x
@user-yn8vl4dy8x 5 ай бұрын
@@VitorJKhan Where do you get these numbers from? The only numbers i could find, put ukrainian millitary deaths well below russian.
@xmolierex
@xmolierex 5 ай бұрын
Russians have always had human “spares”. All you need to do is read their history; but 3 major events come to mind- 1) The Mongol Invasion. 2) Peter the Great and his reforms. 3) WW2. You can include the Napoleonic Wars in there, but then The Russian Empire was considered the Liberators of Europe. History and time are a funny thing…
@alexandernater6284
@alexandernater6284 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-yn8vl4dy8xAnd I guess in your parallel universe Ukraine is winning, right? You really must be one hell of a propaganda victim if you think the Ukrainian losses are even close to the Russian ones, especially after this epic desaster of a counteroffensive.
@ZeeshanMRaje
@ZeeshanMRaje 5 ай бұрын
When western media says "It is stalemate" , consider they are loosing by large margin.
@northstar007.
@northstar007. 5 ай бұрын
like russia, no soldier looses in 3 days war against ukraine!! everyone remeber: We have no looses!!!
@PunkServin
@PunkServin 5 ай бұрын
@@northstar007. Are you happy about the fact that more Russians died in this war than Ukrainians? Well, yes, what difference does it make how many Slavs died. The main thing is that hundreds of thousands of dead allow you to create content where you can write that Putin is bad
@CashCatz
@CashCatz 5 ай бұрын
@@northstar007.the “3 day” BS comes from general gender change Milley. Russians never put out this number. Try googling it.
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 5 ай бұрын
losing based on what metrics ?
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 5 ай бұрын
@@northstar007. So far I have asked at least 30 people online to answer my question, no one ever has, perhaps you can be the first? Let's go: Give me a source of a Russian official that has said this will be a 3 day operation.
@angus7278
@angus7278 5 ай бұрын
The claim that Russian forces are historically used to taking higher casualties than the Ukrainians makes little sense. The vast majority of Ukrainian soldiers in WW 2 were in the Red Army, fighting ferociously against the Nazis and making enormous sacrifices.
@jtothed8575
@jtothed8575 5 ай бұрын
You are speaking too much logic here, remember, the real Ukrainians were fighting the Russians in WW2.
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
​@@jtothed8575aye - people forget the modern Ukraine is the child of Bandera, not the bulk of Ukrainians
@paulcarfantan6688
@paulcarfantan6688 5 ай бұрын
@@arostwocents So modern Ukraine is not the bulk of Ukrainians.Right.... So what is it then ?
@KillerofWestoids
@KillerofWestoids 5 ай бұрын
​@@paulcarfantan6688Most Ukrainians are the children of Soviet heroes. These Bandera worshippers are not Ukrainians, just west sellouts.
@chris4321das
@chris4321das 5 ай бұрын
@@paulcarfantan6688 Actually, Ukrainians (the Galicians) are in western Ukraine, the rest are Russians.
@rupok90
@rupok90 5 ай бұрын
"This war has no clear winner" sounds like coping to me
@sava411
@sava411 3 ай бұрын
I woulnd't call the russian or ukranian people winners in this war lmao. The true winners are raytheon and lockhead martin
@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 4 ай бұрын
Russia has the right to defend itself
@avialiner
@avialiner 3 ай бұрын
Методички всё те же
@waltergrace565
@waltergrace565 5 ай бұрын
It's pretty ridiculous that they're running this now. Wild.
@Wstarlights
@Wstarlights 5 ай бұрын
The Liberal clean up crew, setting up it's out from the fallout on the way.
@TheTechnoPilot
@TheTechnoPilot 5 ай бұрын
No it’s another important part of the world news and sadly we see Russia managing to use effectively slave troops to pretty strongly hold off Ukraine’s army.
@ChrisCollier
@ChrisCollier 5 ай бұрын
They are getting the public ready for eventual loss.
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 4 ай бұрын
i know when the invasion began you were saying russia was losing on purpose and that we "dont really know whats going on"
@waltergrace565
@waltergrace565 4 ай бұрын
@@evanfinch4987 Hilarious. What are you talking about?
@ciberius4
@ciberius4 5 ай бұрын
"This war has no clear winner". Yes it has, and it's not Ukraine.
@andrewplater1782
@andrewplater1782 5 ай бұрын
And it's not Russia either. Putin has some remarkable achievements: expanded NATO by two and potentially three countries, killed off Russian arms exports industry, shrunk Russia's young, entrepreneurial population who now use their talents elsewhere, shrunk Russia's export markets, sunk the rouble and introduced inflation and high interest rates, killed off foreign investment. His legacy will be different from what he anticipated.
@funcompilator1202
@funcompilator1202 5 ай бұрын
it's western Military production complex actually
@ciberius4
@ciberius4 5 ай бұрын
@@funcompilator1202 Yeah, but it's Russia that's getting the land...😎
@Censz
@Censz 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for using a dab emoji. We appreciate you coming out as a sub 80 iq Individual
@gvgrassman
@gvgrassman 5 ай бұрын
no Kherson?
@Arag0n
@Arag0n 4 ай бұрын
Someone finally talking more realistically rather than emotionally from mainstream media. Maybe now we will move into trying to settle rather fight our dispute.
@Gedd84
@Gedd84 3 ай бұрын
This war from the start was about weakening Russia, not about Ukraine`s victory. You`ll see it clearly in future
@williamplayfair364
@williamplayfair364 2 ай бұрын
so putin wanted to weaken russia then?
@M4DD4WG
@M4DD4WG 2 ай бұрын
That was obvious from the beginning, Russia was just clearing out their old stock
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 3 күн бұрын
The Ukraine was dysfunctional from its separation from the Soviet Union. As it never had a naturally evolved culture and language and was a multi-ethnic state cobbled together by Lenin in 1922, it was never wanted by anyone living in that territory. And something that no one wants cannot exist.
@purnamapurnama828
@purnamapurnama828 5 ай бұрын
Problem is the Ukrainian tell the the Russian months before they start their offensive... They allow the Russia to build defence
@superlightningohno
@superlightningohno 5 ай бұрын
that makes no sense, Russia annexed Ukraine. Ukraine is defending.
@purnamapurnama828
@purnamapurnama828 5 ай бұрын
@@superlightningohno I mean the Ukrainian counter offensive failed because they tell the world about it months ago That's why the Russian are so prepared Remember ww2 battle of midway?? Why the American won the battle?? Because the American know the Japanese plans
@AbcDino843
@AbcDino843 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine didn't disclose anything that Russia didn't already know. That is why Russians withdrew from Kharkov and Kherson and started building those defenses immediately. Also, the battlefield is dictated by geography and the axis of attack were pretty obvious ahead of time.
@svetlanavlasova2061
@svetlanavlasova2061 5 ай бұрын
The problem of Ukraine is that it lies too much and it's corruption as nowhere else -- that will be summary of the issue.
@Truthpatriot62Z
@Truthpatriot62Z 5 ай бұрын
​@@purnamapurnama828that's what happens when you put your pr up so high of importance Ukraine was more worried about winning on Twitter and world news outlets...well they found out you can't win wars like that 😉
@seanp9277
@seanp9277 5 ай бұрын
That Ukraine's 2023 offensive would fail was obvious before it even started.
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
That they would lose the war was obvious before it even started, ending up in a much worse position than the pre war deal offered. But they had to trust the west 😂
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
As soon as Zelensky fired missiles into Poland to try and draw in NATO, all support should have been immediately cut. His actions could have caused the end of the world.
@55richw
@55richw 5 ай бұрын
Russia’s offensive will be a year old in a few months and how is that going?!! 😂 Russia a superpower? The world’s laughing at Putin’s folly.
@ridwanomar5351
@ridwanomar5351 5 ай бұрын
@@55richw😂😂😂 Ukraine is begging for money on tv I’m gonna donate some change i have in my car.
@ridwanomar5351
@ridwanomar5351 5 ай бұрын
@@55richwUkraine was and will always be Russian.
@silentstormstudio4782
@silentstormstudio4782 5 ай бұрын
0:50 I mean USA was the one to persuade Ukraine away from Russia
@igor.mylnikov
@igor.mylnikov 2 ай бұрын
для того, чтобы потом столкнуть Украину с Россией
@supa3ek
@supa3ek 3 ай бұрын
They said last year russia was down to shovels lol
@jean-marcsalotti999
@jean-marcsalotti999 5 ай бұрын
Wrong question. The good question is: Did the US and European countries really believe that Ukraine could win against Russia? Even if Russia had lost more ground, Russia had many options to win the war anyway, starting with a total mobilization and, if necessary, by using nuclear weapons. Ukraine coudn't win, it was known from the beginning.
@CrazyGaming-ig6qq
@CrazyGaming-ig6qq 5 ай бұрын
Russia is expending its soviet army stocks at crazy rates for quite a while now. So yes, Ukraine can and absolutely is winning. It's just that Putin buys an apparent territorial stalemate at a very high daily price in both material and men. Russia is not able to replace even half of all the heavy equipment they are burning. It's just that Russia had and still has very large stockpiles stemming from decades of massive soviet arms production. But it's not infinite despite what some Russian pundits like to think. Putins gamble is that before Russia runs out of equipment the west caves in and drops support for Ukraine. So anti-democratic Trump supporters and Putin lovers like yourself hopes for the same.
@B1sher
@B1sher 5 ай бұрын
The mainstream media are propaganda outlets, including this channel
@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG
@lordXAVIJAANBJERGNOG 5 ай бұрын
Everyone should just surrender to our new master Putin and stop resisting.
@user-kt5ub4oh9g
@user-kt5ub4oh9g 5 ай бұрын
That’s right, mobilization has been going on in Ukraine for 2 years now, and it’s tough, in Russia there was only an attempt, but there was no total mobilization.
@eduardopupucon
@eduardopupucon 4 ай бұрын
they didn't do a total mobilization nor nukes during the afghanistan war, they did lose, and i'm certain the afghans had even less resources (altough better terrain and tactics) than the russians
@Mast3r_ya
@Mast3r_ya 5 ай бұрын
You can't compare russian military resources and human resources with Ukraine even when UA got many of the top weapons from western countries. Russia got adopted fast to the current warfare and managed to overcome sanctions and boosted military industrial capacity with again, human resources. Unfortunately this conflict would have never bring results that western countries were expecting for. So what is next? Negotiations for peace? After so many deaths of innocent people and lost of territories?
@davemack6384
@davemack6384 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine should lose a lot of territory. They and the west brought this war on. When Ukraine started getting pissy about Russian representation in government, the US hatched their plan to displace Russians in the east, replace them with Ukrainians and have zero representation by any pro Russian citizens.
@islandwills2778
@islandwills2778 5 ай бұрын
That is how every war ends, an agreement is reached and signed. Sadly Ukraine could have signed a treaty near day one to not join NATO and cede Crimea to Russia (who had it under there control for years already) but nope, that is not what western powers wanted and so now here we are.
@TheDailyBeaver069
@TheDailyBeaver069 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@festekj
@festekj 5 ай бұрын
These are no longer negotiations when you have no more army. Russia will want to Link Transnistria and Russia
@paulcarfantan6688
@paulcarfantan6688 5 ай бұрын
@@festekj So when did Russia lose its army ? What Russia wants and what they can get are two very different things.
@alanyuan8565
@alanyuan8565 Ай бұрын
I’m no military expert (far from it) but I believe the biggest problem is Ukraine’s intentions were painfully clear from the beginning of the offensive - which was to cut the crimea land bridge and force a serious water problem to force Russia to sue for peace.
@glass8289
@glass8289 5 ай бұрын
People like scott ritter, Brian berletic, etc are telling this for past 15 months in their youtube channels. Main stream media picking this up now shows, you are preparing the minds of people, to accept the same facts you lied for past 2 years. As usual good job in manipulating the news and people.
@kenrik2105
@kenrik2105 5 ай бұрын
US war planners wanted Ukraine to focus all NATO-armed brigades to attack in Kherson and sever the Crimea land bridge. They expected to recapture Crimea in 3-6 months. Instead, Ukraine attacked in multiple fronts, trying to recapture Bakhmut. Also, the US war planners didn’t expect the minefields and drones to be so effective. They also overestimated the invulnerability of NATO armor. The NATO-trained brigades consisted of 70% troops with no combat experience. They had no air support. It was a failure before it started.
@boocomban
@boocomban 5 ай бұрын
Using experience from years and years of COIN operations in Afghanistan and Iraq with a conventional warfare like Ukraine is suicidal for Ukraine... Also combined arms in the open flat terrains without air superiority is another suicidal move... Yet they did it, not once not twice, but multiple times in hope of break through Russian lines of defenses...
@CivilizedWasteland
@CivilizedWasteland 5 ай бұрын
Everyone likes to talk about how innefective the Russian military is but if you were actually paying attention to these things it wasn't that surprising. The most shocking part about this war should be that us led NATO strategist planned a big part of this war and it fell flat. Their thinking was almost 20 years outdated which you would expect from Ukraine and Russia but not from the USA.
@keshav479
@keshav479 5 ай бұрын
it's a false propaganda by NATO to save their image. Ukraine can't even move a inch without NATO's advice.
@VladVsevolod
@VladVsevolod 4 ай бұрын
Поэтому свиней и порвали как тряпку😂😂😂😂
@ayushkumar-bg1xf
@ayushkumar-bg1xf 4 ай бұрын
us war planner never fought real war on land in last 150 year ,
@jackuzi8252
@jackuzi8252 5 ай бұрын
This video is correct but doesn't put enough emphasis on the effect drones have had. Neither side can amass a lot of force in one area without the other side knowing about it in real time. So when the Ukrainians tried to advance over the summer, the Russians were always ready for them. And the same is now playing out as the Russians try to advance.
@robert6106
@robert6106 5 ай бұрын
The dones can operate endlessly sapping away manpower and hardware, when this war ends the military analysts the world over will be war gaming the life out of the use of drones.
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 5 ай бұрын
I reckon Ukraine lost most of their men when they made their initial "gains" and Zelensky was going around being cheered by Western leaders. Look at the average age of their troops now as reported by Time Magazine who spoke to key insiders. Ukraine losses are much greater than Russia's I think. They also used up almost the entire stockpile of Western shells. The Time Mag piece is very telling, more so than this video. As it showed Zelensky ignored advisers and sent men to the meat grinder.
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 5 ай бұрын
@@andrewnorris5415 The Time Mag piece was shown to be misleading. It plays fast and loose with the facts. Anyone can say "key insiders" but if you don't list actual names, it's most likely a lie to get views.
@WTF2BlueTiger
@WTF2BlueTiger 5 ай бұрын
Drones are very useful tools but this has pretty much been the state of war for the last century. Even in ww2 and to some extent ww1 was it difficult to amass sufficient troops to make a concentrated attack without the enemy knowing it, because of simply airplanes and to some extent spies, you don't need drones to tell where a large assault is going to be. Though they certainly are very useful on the smaller scale and for accurate information gathering
@andreisokolenko7719
@andreisokolenko7719 5 ай бұрын
If this video would be correct, it would explain why all that happened. Why Russia made such move.
@megaloman3807
@megaloman3807 4 ай бұрын
The fact that this video is still on KZbin proves the double standard of policy regarding the permissible on the platform!
@craig4867
@craig4867 3 ай бұрын
From Russia with Love 🇷🇺 ❤
@user-gp2bu6ce7h
@user-gp2bu6ce7h 5 ай бұрын
They write a lot about the high motivation of Ukrainians (defense of the homeland) and the low motivation of Russians (war of conquest). Salaries on the front line are similar, from 2000 to 3000 euros approximately. At the same time, there was only one mobilization in Russia, after which they recruited only voluntarily. There have been 8 or 10 waves of mobilization in Ukraine and for several months they have been recruiting only by forcibly raiding clubs and catching men on the street, Ukrainian channels here are posting hundreds of videos about this. Have you ever wondered why?
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 5 ай бұрын
Surely because Russia sustained 1.4 millions cass (340K+ KIA), right... Poor Ukrainian people got played like a fiddle.
@someperson1829
@someperson1829 5 ай бұрын
@@vanjamenadzer Re-read his comment, especially the "there was only one mobilization in Russia" part, and think again about the number that you gave. It doesn't add up. Unless you just cope, which is likely the case.
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 5 ай бұрын
@@someperson1829 "Surely because Russia sustained 1.4 millions cass" this part is sarcasm
@someperson1829
@someperson1829 5 ай бұрын
@@vanjamenadzer Mkay mate, didn't get that part.
@jasonmorris9330
@jasonmorris9330 5 ай бұрын
@@someperson1829 its a bot. Russia's propaganda machine is part of their war effort, an attempt to misinform the world (especially naive Americans)
@normcharlesowen
@normcharlesowen 5 ай бұрын
Now that the truth can’t be denied… Here comes CBC!!
@sarkarbroadband
@sarkarbroadband 5 ай бұрын
yep
@Kaizerg
@Kaizerg 5 ай бұрын
What you "forgot" to mention is that russian retreat from Kiev was due to peace agreement signed by Ukrainians and later discarded when Boris Johnson flew to Kiev and promised Western support if Ukraine would keep fighting. Conveniently, just after that famous Bucha happened which gave Ukraine a plausible reason to break the treaty. That's when the real War started.
@SJ23982398
@SJ23982398 5 ай бұрын
Russia retreated from Kiev, because they had captured no strategic points, only roads. And those roads were being shelled with artillery and drones and Russians were losing alarming amounts of equipment. The only one who has made claims about this so called "peace treaty" is Putin himself, and he is not exactly trustworthy. The only peace offerings which Russia has made so far is complete disarmament of Ukraine, which ofcourse is unacceptable.
@PoohBear01
@PoohBear01 5 ай бұрын
Any source that isnt from Putin's mouth?
@oliveryt7168
@oliveryt7168 5 ай бұрын
​@@PoohBear01 why blame Putin for everything? The next time you're gonna sh** your pants and your boyfriend is gonna leave you, you're gonna blame Putin? Stop being such a p****.
@thanesgames9685
@thanesgames9685 5 ай бұрын
@@PoohBear01 He swallowed that from the other end of putin.
@silverianjannvs5315
@silverianjannvs5315 5 ай бұрын
​@@PoohBear01Ukraine is losing buddy, please cope
@germanikus8793
@germanikus8793 5 ай бұрын
Who really believed that a tiny little boar could defeat a giant bear ?
@andrewplater1782
@andrewplater1782 5 ай бұрын
Afghanistan
@germanikus8793
@germanikus8793 5 ай бұрын
@@andrewplater1782 The USA yes, but not real power what Russia is...
@Johnny1997_
@Johnny1997_ 5 ай бұрын
Russia moved it troops from Kiev because they had already agreement with Ukraine, however month later when Boris Johnson came to Ukraine he stopped all peace negotiations
@sreckobrzin8534
@sreckobrzin8534 5 ай бұрын
Ha.They retreated(moved😅) becouse they were clobbered. Agrement? Show some proof. At least it does seem that the ruSSien fachists still posses some small change to pay their cheap propagandists.
@marcustulliuscicero8405
@marcustulliuscicero8405 5 ай бұрын
LMAO this is the Russian propaganda cope version. The truth is Russian armoured columns got absolutely blasted while bogged down with lack of supplies because Muscovites are arrogant and underestimated the city's defense. They pulled back because they lost all momentum and would have lost thousands more men in an already failed attempt to take the city.
@aled845
@aled845 5 ай бұрын
What seems to be ignored is that the northern front and Kiev was most likely a way to distract the ukrainian from the western part of the country. To defend the capital, the UA pullew back soldiers and Russia marched all over the Dombass
@UndeadKIRA
@UndeadKIRA 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean "peace negotiations"? If Russia wants peace just leave.
@End0fst0ry
@End0fst0ry 3 ай бұрын
@@UndeadKIRA How about Nato just not conducting 5 waves of expansion to the East? How about just honoring the agreements? What do you mean "just leave"?
@richardpluim4426
@richardpluim4426 5 ай бұрын
Hey Andrew...news flash, Ukraine has already lost.
@edwardvalivonis23
@edwardvalivonis23 5 ай бұрын
Really? Cry 😂
@jungletunes3923
@jungletunes3923 5 ай бұрын
​@@edwardvalivonis23Zelensky is going to beg again to US.
@edwardvalivonis23
@edwardvalivonis23 5 ай бұрын
@@jungletunes3923 you better drink mummy's milk
@richardpluim4426
@richardpluim4426 5 ай бұрын
@@edwardvalivonis23Zelensky likely wont be alive one year from now.
@richardpluim4426
@richardpluim4426 5 ай бұрын
get over it.@@edwardvalivonis23
@g_rr_tt
@g_rr_tt 4 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe Russian is 'losing' when I see pictures and videos of teenage Ukrainian boys being conscripted into service.
@goingfreenow3297
@goingfreenow3297 5 ай бұрын
CBC you ought to be publishing articles on how the world needs to come together and stop this war. For goodness sakes 2 years of human destruction. What a disgrace.
@ramilrahim0v
@ramilrahim0v 5 ай бұрын
The first year Russians didn't have any defence lines, that's why it was not very difficult to liberate Kherson and other areas in short time. But after that, western countries spent too much time debating which weapons to send and how many to send. Russians used that pause to build the defence line
@Anuisgod
@Anuisgod 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine don't have men and Russia has endless man power.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 5 ай бұрын
No; actually absorbing help, training people TAKES TIME.
@BuckeyeRutabaga
@BuckeyeRutabaga 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't very difficult to liberate Kherson because Russians chose not to hold it and ceded it to Ukraine. There was no fighting in Kherson city (south of the country). Since Ukrainian artillery was within the range of the bridges connecting Russian occupied territories to the city of Kherson, it would be a logistical nightmare to organize and maintain Russian military in the city (on the other side of the river). The map says it all. This was a Ukrainian win based entirely on a bluff. What's remarkable is Ukrainian liberation of Kharkiv area (north of the country). Ukraine showed exemplary use of information war with what's happening on the battlefield. Right before the Kharkiv offensive, Ukrainian officials and every news outlet were blowing up with predictions of a counter-offensive to take the city of Kherson. This caused Russians to refocus to the Kherson region when they quickly realized they did not have sufficient resources to hold the city due to surrounding geography and supply arteries being exposed like sitting ducks. Meanwhile, Ukraine was preparing a major push in Kharkiv region and Ukrainians were keeping their mouth shut about it. Russia, not realizing the danger looming in Kharkiv region did not organize any defense there nor provided enough man power to hold it. Hence the Ukrainian push in Kharkiv region was so swift and successful. Although Ukrainian strategy game with Kharkiv and Kherson in the fall of 2022 was genius, it resulted in Russia calling for additional mobilization and they were able to quickly patch up the holes, stabilize the frontline and build a robust "elastic defense" lines to preclude Ukraine from any more unexpected victories.
@ppen8359
@ppen8359 5 ай бұрын
@@Anuisgod Yes, that is the main reason people seem to ignore. The initial 170,000 troops are already dead. Russia keeps mobilizing and Ukraine has to take fewer risks. Ukraine will win but it will win very slowly and the cost of equipment for Ukraine will be higher.
@B1sher
@B1sher 5 ай бұрын
@@ppen8359 your brain is dead
@Anisvit
@Anisvit 5 ай бұрын
when you bet with your country and your allies start to leave you
@amazingdany
@amazingdany 4 ай бұрын
2022: Russia on the verge of defeat 2023: Why Ukraine can't beat Russia’s 'elastic defence'
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 4 ай бұрын
this entire war: a total military humiliation for a huge country with a jillion tanks
@jebbroham1776
@jebbroham1776 3 ай бұрын
To anyone who knows how the war in Russia was fought during WW2, the Russians are employing the same tactics used by German Field Marshal Eric von Manstein to halt any attempted breakthroughs through the use of giving ground before launching a counter attack to destroy the spearheads that overextend themselves. Once this is achieved the lost ground is retaken by launching a counteroffensive, thus returning the frontline to its original state and leaving the enemy in a weakened position.
@gelmir7322
@gelmir7322 5 ай бұрын
The War is happening inside Ukraine. So they're already at a lost, As the destructions in the economy, industry, agriculture, the general community, and the way of life are all happening in Urkaine. Not to the mention, that they are spending a huge deal of their military assets and resources in defending rather than destroying their enemies.
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns 5 ай бұрын
Try telling that to the pro-Ukraine fanatics. They'll call you a Russia bot or a Putin fan or some other bs. You're right. The fact that the war is happening on Ukrainian territory alone is a loss in itself. 20% of Ukraine under the control of the Russians says a lot in itself.
@realitystrikes1998
@realitystrikes1998 5 ай бұрын
So sit there and do nothing while getting invaded? Give up? I guess they should have surrendered and not had their country destroyed. Just be taken over by another country because freedom isn't worth it.
@ydfunffyd9746
@ydfunffyd9746 5 ай бұрын
At the beginning of the war, confusion prevailed, at the moment a large part of the population had adapted to the new conditions. and despite the war, the economy is slowly stabilizing, and Ukraine has a lot of volunteers among the civilian population, and everyone is trying to support each other. But unfortunately, the loss of military and civilians cannot be recovered
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 5 ай бұрын
@@ydfunffyd9746 The only reason why Ukrainian economy is still standing (barely) is foreign aid. Without it, they can't keep up with the Russians...
@user-gl9iw1fv2h
@user-gl9iw1fv2h 5 ай бұрын
​@@ydfunffyd9746what a joke. They have no economy, they're fully funded by US, US pays pensions and salaries, once they stop, they're bankrupt
@yolomcswaggens9482
@yolomcswaggens9482 5 ай бұрын
Reality check: Russia had 1 (partial) mobilisation wave Ukraine has had 8 to date
@hewydewy2164
@hewydewy2164 5 ай бұрын
😂
@jhhhjgfds
@jhhhjgfds 5 ай бұрын
Actually, Ukraine had 11 waves. Even worse
@neolord50pro77
@neolord50pro77 5 ай бұрын
Young men are trying to flee the country before it's not too late because government begin to target for more younger people as casualties on the frontline are ramping up fast.
@j.k.reborn
@j.k.reborn 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine has banned it's poor men from leaving making it in a prison and there are daily videos of Ukrainian army thugs kidnapping unwilling off-street for the meat grinder.
@DC9848
@DC9848 5 ай бұрын
That is ludicrous statement. If russia has would have one million spare men, they would be already at the meat grinder. The main reason they are reluctant to do public drafts is the clear risk on internal stability in russia.
@user-tt6il2up4o
@user-tt6il2up4o 4 ай бұрын
The Russian did not collapse but pull back to well prepared defensive positions that they could build unaffected.
@Volodymyr_SVD
@Volodymyr_SVD 5 ай бұрын
I will save you time: - Ukraine does not have air superiority - Ukraine does not have artillery/guns/tanks superiority - Ukraine shells, rockets and other ammo types stock are much-much lower than RU has. - Ukraine already mobilized 20% of it’s human resource and also 20% fled from Ukraine (40% in total) during past years while RU mobilization is currently somewhere between 8-12%. That's all folks. Have a nice day.
@1112viggo
@1112viggo 5 ай бұрын
"could Ukraine actually loose the war?" It was always in the cards from the get go, that they where still standing after a few weeks was cited as a miracle by everyone. I was pulling my hair that Ukraine didn´t negotiate a peace agreement at the peak of their last counter offensive when they had some leverage.
@knoll9812
@knoll9812 5 ай бұрын
Putin was not negotiating at that point
@Stockfish1511
@Stockfish1511 5 ай бұрын
Putin literally agreed to negotiations and offered one before the war. Then there are clowns like boris johnson
@marias5088
@marias5088 4 ай бұрын
@@knoll9812 bullsh*t. Putin sent his people to negotiate with Ukraine and withdrew his army after they came close to Kyiv (2:59 in this video) to start these negotiations. Right after the Russian army left these territories, one of the worst deceptions in the history of this conflict happened, and it was Bucha when the Ukrainians said the Russians murdered the civilians and left them lying on the roads. After this, I doubt Putin will negotiate with Zelenski anymore. It was a costly mistake that cost a lot of lives. Now, Putin will go all the way until he achieves the goals of this military operation. Ukraine will be demilitarized and will have to agree NOT to join NATO; it will be made to keep its neutrality. Zelenski lost his chance, his only chance.
@knoll9812
@knoll9812 4 ай бұрын
@@marias5088 sorry Maria I made the factual point that Putin was not negotiating at the peak of the counteroffensive. That was the official Russia position. Your comment covers a much wider time period Sorry
@marias5088
@marias5088 4 ай бұрын
@@knoll9812 Before the Ukrainians staged the killing of civilians in Bucha, they had a chance to get almost all of their territories back and have peace. Zelensky's team asked the Russians to withdraw his troops when they were very close to Kyiv to start peace talks. Instead they staged the killings of civilians in Bucha making the world believe this lie and got lots of help from the West, including the weapons. I don't think Putin will be negotiating with Zelensky anymore after this, at least not on Zelensky's terms.
@silviualbisoru5749
@silviualbisoru5749 5 ай бұрын
It’s so funny to hear him. He sounds like anybody actually believed that Ukraine will win this thing.
@rhetorical1488
@rhetorical1488 5 ай бұрын
facts are hard for the indoctrinated lol
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
It's scary how many people totally believed the propaganda
@pawel115
@pawel115 5 ай бұрын
I am not sure Western nations have even backup plan on what to do when that happens
@AbcDino843
@AbcDino843 5 ай бұрын
I hate this expression but I can't think of a more accurate description, they truly have woken up the bear. The problem is that at the end of this, Russian military will be larger, better equipped and vastly more experienced and competent. At the same time the West has laid its motives bare, to overthrow Russian government, to partition Russia etc. What will the Russians do with all that power and the economy already on the war footing? They may think "it's now or never", and there's no easy plan B against that.
@ridwanomar5351
@ridwanomar5351 5 ай бұрын
@@pawel115the west and nato knew that Ukraine wasn’t gonna win.
@yaroslav7040
@yaroslav7040 5 ай бұрын
Why he didn't say anything about peace talks in 2022? The war could be over...
@pagecollector4856
@pagecollector4856 3 ай бұрын
Because there is a propaganda war.
@hercbos8704
@hercbos8704 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone still think that the Istanbul peace agreement was bad for Ukraine?
@MaxCroat
@MaxCroat 5 ай бұрын
As far as the map is concerned, viewers do need to take into account that the biggest change is in the western/southwestern part of the front, which is the result of the Ukrainian offensive in Kherson last year. That offensive actually concluded in the first half of November 2022, so since then the change is even less. Barely noticable when you look at it from the scale these maps are showing. Biggest changes happened with Wagner advancing towards Soledar and Bakhmut etc. from late 2022 to May 20th this year, but even that change is barely visible at this scale. Really makes it funny to remember all the news headlines during the summer this year which talked about big Ukrainian breakthroughs, which just didn't happen. Or when they were saying how Ukraine has almost encircled Bakhmut, when in reality they advanced very slowly on the flanks of the city. It is important to remember not only the Russians are pushing their propaganda, our media is also pushing it's own propaganda and lying to us.
@clydelouis5956
@clydelouis5956 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. People only think about Russia propaganda but ignore the fact they are being propagandized every hour every day through western medias, including this channel.
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 5 ай бұрын
there is a key difference , Our media lies for money , they make dramatic stories which get clicks and cause arguments , they're not controlled by the State and have no obligation to either the president or the military or Ukraine , meanwhile the Russian media is state controlled , their lies are more standard , they lie about taking cities (famous example pisky which they lied to have taken for 6 months straight before it actually fell) , they lie about Ukrainian losses and they manipulate Ukrainian/western politicial sphere in their stories such to make Russia seem advantageous
@salamander4668
@salamander4668 5 ай бұрын
Russians have captured maryinka and half of avdeevka. How did you not hear about that?
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 5 ай бұрын
@@salamander4668 half of avdiivka?
@salamander4668
@salamander4668 5 ай бұрын
@@sababugs1125 avdeevka*. Avdiivka is a translation from hohol language, and not russian.
@hi4806
@hi4806 5 ай бұрын
😂Isn't the invincible western weapon a game changer?
@nsbebebrvdjdifkf
@nsbebebrvdjdifkf 5 ай бұрын
It's joke western weapon are social media weapon it's great only in internet not on battle ground
@sturmx96
@sturmx96 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine was winning and then the western weapons changed the game haha
@commanderiosifstalin4938
@commanderiosifstalin4938 5 ай бұрын
@@sturmx96They are still saying that: "Ukraine is winning", a lot of them. But now, not many of them are still talking about: "Western weapons are the game changers".
@user-oe6uq7pc8o
@user-oe6uq7pc8o 5 ай бұрын
"Russian and Ukrainian forces have a lot of technological similarities at this point." These people have no idea what they are talking about... "Russians have historical abilities to sacrifice more people than Ukrainians" These people also need some history lessons. Cause 30 years ago Ukraine and Russia were the same country.
@markhill7743
@markhill7743 5 ай бұрын
These people probably can't even show you where Ukraine is on the map... 😂
@staytune96
@staytune96 3 ай бұрын
You cannot defeat country that have energy and produce their own weapon in this era of modern weapons
@ericbergstrom9351
@ericbergstrom9351 5 ай бұрын
Ah the program will be changing and CBC here to provide you the new thought pattern. I remember when CBC really wanted me to know that Ukraine would probably win and that I should support that Turns out we should think that a settlement makes sense. Thanks cbc
@steveprebble1065
@steveprebble1065 5 ай бұрын
As a Canadian, CBC is so full of SH*T.
@tartrazine5
@tartrazine5 5 ай бұрын
A settlement where Ukraine returns to being a vassal of Russia?
@hockedad3585
@hockedad3585 5 ай бұрын
where are the ukranian men hiding...Ireland ,Poland,Germany ,Holland
@arostwocents
@arostwocents 5 ай бұрын
A settlement made sense before the war began and makes even more sense now. Unfortunately the Ukies cannot obtain anything like the prewar deal they were offered
@StankFernatra
@StankFernatra 5 ай бұрын
Updating one's forecast when based on updating information is called 'learning'. The CBC is 'learning', 'updating its forecast', and 'presenting its findings to its viewers'.
@nikolaidonskoj
@nikolaidonskoj 5 ай бұрын
It is always difficult to decide if the ignorance of a report is the product of a lack of knowledge on the part of the writers and commentators, or simply falsehoods. The vast majority of the Ukrainian general staff is Soviet trained (as is the Russian), they have a clear understanding of the tactics of the other side, and the tactics are similar.
@badcampa2641
@badcampa2641 5 ай бұрын
Indeed
@j.k.reborn
@j.k.reborn 5 ай бұрын
@@wnose Bakhmut was never about land.Russia purposely created a meat grinder to inflict heavy losses on Ukraine most trained and experienced.Ukraine was too late to realize the obvious.
@NachttiSchlampE65
@NachttiSchlampE65 5 ай бұрын
@@wnose Are you that dumb ? Ukraine didnt adapt their tactics, they simply were forced to. Bakhmut did work out didnt it ? As well as Avdiivka. Avdiivka is literally a fortress and the Russians are advancing faster than the Ukrainians who were trying to take a 200 people village Robotyne.
@user-dc9oq2pr6v
@user-dc9oq2pr6v 5 ай бұрын
@@wnose "Ukraine learns from their mistakes" 🤣🤣🤣
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 5 ай бұрын
Zaluzhny isn't.
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 5 ай бұрын
It's almost like the Russians are actually competent, or something.
@oliveryt7168
@oliveryt7168 5 ай бұрын
Well... I'm sure, Washington knows how competent Russia is.. But they are still pushing Zelenskyi to fight this war, while not really supporting him.. A weird proxy war. My prognosis: In less than two years Washington will drop Zelenskyi like a hot potato.
@johncarter9054
@johncarter9054 5 ай бұрын
Lets not just talk about the similarities. Lets talk about the differences; in numbers of casualties. For reasons shown in the video, The Russian casualties were comparetively low. For every 1 Russian killed, 8 Ukrainians were killed. There are almost no men left in the Ukrainian army. With well over 500,000 Ukrainian dead so far, women are now being used to fill the gaps, many of them pregnant.
@unkono
@unkono 3 ай бұрын
Sad.
@Customercf
@Customercf 3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@jobmbugua7291
@jobmbugua7291 5 ай бұрын
"To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” Henry Kissinger
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 4 ай бұрын
dude youre so smart and cool, you're sense of irony is standout!
@johnrivera3365
@johnrivera3365 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine's counter offensive is long over. Currently they are using the Leopards and western aid for defensive purposes. Russia has been conducting small scale operations along the entire front and currently have begone besieging Avdiivka. The Ukrainian gains in the last six months have been overturned. It's sad to admit but they are losing this. Just recently Republicans voted against a new AID Package. Without help Ukraine is done.
@Reha-km1yo
@Reha-km1yo 5 ай бұрын
Finally, done and gone.
@dfui.
@dfui. 5 ай бұрын
There is no "stalemate" here my friend. A stalemate is between equally matched armies.
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 4 ай бұрын
oh yeah? how about russia gets on with the whole winning thing? oh wait, i'm sure you've got some explanation that russia really didn't want regime change, they just wanted to lose thousands of armored vehicles and men to gaslight us all
@udayanroy6695
@udayanroy6695 4 ай бұрын
I know who the winner is! The world's self appointed police officer/ Big Brother.
@diegovr9722
@diegovr9722 5 ай бұрын
This topic has been well explained by professor John Mearsheimer since 2015. He told us that the counteroffensive is gona fail, and now he is telling us what is going to happen next...
@trikyy7238
@trikyy7238 5 ай бұрын
You mean the guy who said russia will win so why bother. Yeah, what a prophet.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 5 ай бұрын
didn't he say something about 72 hours? or am i mistaking him with someone else? also, did he predict finland and sweden on NATO in 2015? bc y'know now russia has another border with NATO with a rich country this time
@renemagritte8237
@renemagritte8237 5 ай бұрын
John Mearsheimer, the guy who predicted the Russian Victory over Ukraine during two weeks and Russian Forces standing at Polish border in April 22? The same Mearsheimer? Just asking.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 5 ай бұрын
@@bzipoli NATO told you the border was the problem, not Russia.
@FunkySpaceLord
@FunkySpaceLord 5 ай бұрын
John Mearsheimer ?? Mearsheimer said that Putin would not invade
@sportlife8112
@sportlife8112 5 ай бұрын
Ukraine didn't expel russian by force, but by agreement
@toomuchdebt5669
@toomuchdebt5669 5 ай бұрын
Boris Johnson .
@user-kc4op9gc6l
@user-kc4op9gc6l 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@devnull436да, все русские танки остались под Харьковом. ;)
@danielxbox28
@danielxbox28 5 ай бұрын
@@devnull436 100s? did u pull that number from some hole
@leonardoorellano6652
@leonardoorellano6652 5 ай бұрын
oryx have proven to be highly inaccurate as you only need a can of spray to change the origin of the tank.. besides i don't think oryx is in business anymore@@devnull436
@Spazzfrom.1989
@Spazzfrom.1989 5 ай бұрын
@@devnull436 oryx was actually shown to have bad sources.
@nkazimulondlovu2870
@nkazimulondlovu2870 3 ай бұрын
You are forgetting that Russia was asked to pull back it forces after the negotiations, then Boris Johnson messed up the dead.
@mikolanimator
@mikolanimator 5 ай бұрын
“There’s no clear winner in this war?” Right
@ury2936
@ury2936 5 ай бұрын
Wars can only be lost. Most people on both sides suffer. Some individuals my prosper, however. That's the reason for wars in the first place.
@UndeadKIRA
@UndeadKIRA 3 ай бұрын
Ukraine already won. Wasnt this suppose to end in under a week?
@diojan4610
@diojan4610 3 ай бұрын
There is, Russia. The losers are USA, NATO and the pawn Ukraine.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 3 ай бұрын
​@UndeadKIRA Ukraine already won???? Good time for peace. Russia keeps land bridge to Crimea and Azov Sea as the loser. Lol
@thatrandomproject6652
@thatrandomproject6652 2 ай бұрын
That would have at least saved lives. Now Ukraine got none
@rogerkamben389
@rogerkamben389 5 ай бұрын
Also you're not allowed to say there was this 2015 peace deal with the same name as the Capitol of Belarus, but some guys in This Atlantic Alliance didn't wanna follow
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 4 ай бұрын
its atlantic council--you can't even get that right
@furymysteries3276
@furymysteries3276 2 ай бұрын
@@evanfinch4987its an organization called north atlantic treaty organization NATO not NATC
@user-zn6oo4on4k
@user-zn6oo4on4k 3 ай бұрын
Three to one for land warfare, looks like the Ukraine is in a strong defensive position. They might not have enough strength to risk an unsuccessful attack and then have to fall back and hold on.
@kristabluesmith940
@kristabluesmith940 3 ай бұрын
NEGOTIATIONS NOW
@palitodeyerba
@palitodeyerba 5 ай бұрын
Very well explained video, just need to point the following: first, in 3,15 Russia didn't lost "almost every gain", they kept the most strategic ground in Jerson, Zaporihie, Donestk and Lugansk; second, in 9:00 many open source analysts have been claiming that Ukranians are taking a much higher toll than Russians, in part due to the lack of flexibility.
@ivoivic2448
@ivoivic2448 5 ай бұрын
this is still a western channel, they gotta sugar coat it...
@wallingnaga6563
@wallingnaga6563 5 ай бұрын
This MSM channel will never get it .. As long as Russia is inside Ukraine it’s not a lost for Russia it’s a lose for Ukraine.
@blackmantis3130
@blackmantis3130 5 ай бұрын
7:10 I remember this analyst saying on BBC how Ukraine would enter Melitopol.
@commanderiosifstalin4938
@commanderiosifstalin4938 5 ай бұрын
BBC has produced a lot of fairytales since 2022, with the best one about the "evacuation" of Ukrainian soldiers out of Mariupol by the Russian soldiers. Now even, BBC has stopped mentioning the Ukrainian counteroffensive.
@wjcurious
@wjcurious 5 ай бұрын
It's not on only about territory. It's about people and resources lost. Russia fights efficiently, it only now started using more advanced weapons, loosing much less soldiers, wearing down Ukraine and NATO.
@icttrainer6889
@icttrainer6889 Ай бұрын
Now what did we learn from this?
@stevenwynn7162
@stevenwynn7162 5 ай бұрын
What isn’t mentioned is the large minefields in between Russias defensive lines. Especially in front of the 1st true defensive line that slows the mechanized advance to crawl….
@user-li5cr6wv5b
@user-li5cr6wv5b 5 ай бұрын
As Ukrainian tanker told journalists, when he asked how should he cross the enemy mine field, the NATO instructor answered "you go around".
@oliveryt7168
@oliveryt7168 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-li5cr6wv5b🎉
@dyingalive
@dyingalive 5 ай бұрын
the whole truth would be too much bad news to out out in one go.
@Kanvers_Martian
@Kanvers_Martian 5 ай бұрын
No mention of negotiation between both sides when Russia was close to Kiev, then Ukraine agreed to give Russian speaking side in the east Anthony, so Russia pulled back instead of bombing Kiev
@NachttiSchlampE65
@NachttiSchlampE65 5 ай бұрын
Yeah when the guy started talking about territory that Ukraine gained back in March i nearly screamed at this fool. Russia thought it has reached its goal, Ukraine sat on a table with them and an agreement seemed about to be made. Meanwhile they surrounded the Asow humanists in Mariupol and destroyed a lot of military equipment Ukraine had. Negotiations got interrupted by the West, countries as Poland or Czech Republic got old Soviet equipment over to Ukraine in huge numbers and so their counter offensive was possible. They basically threw the Russians over and thought it would be possible to throw them out. Soon 2 years later and that country is a whole mess, NATO got de-masked as what it is and Russia is more or less stronger than before. Awesome job
@vladmorozov1965
@vladmorozov1965 5 ай бұрын
This channel just keeps bullshitting ppl too.@@NachttiSchlampE65
@Hikari_Sakurai
@Hikari_Sakurai 5 ай бұрын
exactly.. US and UK told that clown to scrap that peace deal.
@northstar007.
@northstar007. 5 ай бұрын
hahahahahahahahahah even Prigozhin said russian soldiers runs like chickens!!!!!! they understimate Ukainian will and patriotism!!
@northstar007.
@northstar007. 5 ай бұрын
@@Hikari_Sakuraiand what know phedophile Putin about peace deals??
@kajcsapapa
@kajcsapapa 4 ай бұрын
Nato lost, how embarassing. Russia is a mightier power
@rikkivet3407
@rikkivet3407 17 күн бұрын
NATO hasn’t sent any troops or attacked Russia.
@kajcsapapa
@kajcsapapa 17 күн бұрын
@@rikkivet3407 they sent their weapons and intelligence and still lost. Russia is much stronger
@Blobby192
@Blobby192 3 ай бұрын
the ukranians didnt beat back the russians from kiev and kharkov a deal between putin and zelensky was in place to stop the war in feb 22, as a show of good will putin pulled back his forces from those two areas then boris johnson flew to kiev and told zelensky to throw out the deal and fight russia. this is all on record including from the ukranians themselves.
@tresphorempundu3185
@tresphorempundu3185 5 ай бұрын
It's very obvious whose losing this war, Russia is taking the time it needs or wants to attack and adjust it's strategy. Anybody whose visited Russia during this period understands every word i am saying. The longer this takes, the more devastating and catastrophic this will be for Ukraine.
@maximebegin1454
@maximebegin1454 5 ай бұрын
I think the exact opposite. to date, you could say that the Ukraine is simply a tool for fighting against Russian forces... it's simple, Russia is suffering losses of all kinds, which is leading it slowly towards exhaustion; the same applies to the Ukraine, but this part is "deliberate", if not destiny ... at least it's more likely to think that Ukraine has little chance of victory... but the plan behind the plan is precisely to use Ukraine's sad fate to finish off its aggressor without suffering too many losses in the west. All this crude stratagem hinges on Putin's ego and his insatiable desire to win ;)
@varionbranzuela6894
@varionbranzuela6894 5 ай бұрын
Sad for Ukraine
@LordSesshaku
@LordSesshaku 5 ай бұрын
You sound just like Chamberlain in 1940.
@artfasil
@artfasil 5 ай бұрын
@@LordSesshaku The war is lost, why is that so hard to understand for you nitwits ?
@chidimarvels
@chidimarvels 5 ай бұрын
​@@artfasilThe cope is much stronger than Russia'd defense in depth
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