Why Was Shadow Gens Missing SO Much Content?

[@RyanBarker-l7k]

The only thing it's really missing is a shadow the hedgehog level all other mainline shadow centric games have levels

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

Also a boss fight with emerl. Why advertise him in several instances only to immediately ignore a mention of him

[@WhatISawJuly7th]

​@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32Boss fights with Emerl, Sonic, and Infinite were all missing

[@majoraccident1924]

Yeah, i was certain westopolis would've gotten a level

[@Sticky_sausage69]

I feel like Astroid Coster from Colors DS would also be good because he was in the game (also Colors DS is canon)

[@fl0_hrl]

3:50 I understand the confusion but bouncing on it is kind of necessary here. Sunset Heights is very relevant to Shadow in many ways. Firstly, it is a level that all three of Sonic, Avatar, and Shadow go through. In the Sonic level, which is actually called Sunset Heights, the end goal stops Sonic right in front of Shadow, which leads into a cutscene of fake Shadow attacking Sonic, but the real Shadow kicks the faker and reveals that those are Phantom Ruby virtual reality illusions. Which was retroactively made to correlate with Shadow causing Infinite to become the one who defeated Sonic. As a last bit, in episode Shadow, the level reusing Sunset Heights is the first level and uses a remix of Westopolis. The one level that doesn't make any sense except for saving resources is Chaos Island, this is the odd one out.

[@goldenchatters]

for the chaos island thing why do i feel like shadow is going to go to chaos island in a sonic game for like no reason other than to explain this because some of the levels for shadow gens are from the future so maybe that part/stage has not happened for shadow yet so this might happen in the comics or a future game.

[@fl0_hrl]

@goldenchatters for some reason, some people seem to forget that Classic Sonic went into the future as well, to places he probably didn't end up going to since Mania and Superstars exist.

[@spongebobfan78]

Enemy Territory (Shadow's City level in Forces) is actually weird. He's at the city in the game because it was Omega's last known location, but the tie-in comic shows that he was actually on Green Hill, specifically the base shown in Arsenal Pyramid.

[@fl0_hrl]

​@spongebobfan78 they shouldn't have canonized stuff in a comic, and that would have just made sense

[@Hazel_TheOne]

My head canon is that CI isn’t a part of shadow’s white space or his future at all, it’s sonics just seeping into his white space which is y the cutscene you get for beating it is shadow ending up in sonic’s white space in front of city escape, because it’s probably not that far away from it

[@evdestroy5304]

Because it's an extremely polished small side game made within like a year

[@JaidynReiman]

This is the real answer. We got way more content than we were expecting as is.

[@paperluigi6132]

Infinite is most likely because Shadow has yet to meet him, and since nobody lost their memories after the events of Gens, it would be a very big plot hole that Shadow didn’t recognize Infinite in Forces.

[@EternityVoid_]

Also, Shadow beating Infinite with the Phantom Ruby would break Forces plot.

[@Lusius8879]

also all other bosses added are basically versions of Shadow. Biolizard is basically his older brother, metal overlord copied shadow's abilities, Mephilis is literally born form Shadow's shadow, and Black Doom is basically Shadow's twin. Emerl is a missing link because you can still argue he is part Shadow (especially since his soul is based on Maria). Infinite is just a guy who got beaten by Shadow. All of Shadow Generations is about internal struggles for Shadow and his sense of identity. Infinite has nothing to do with Shadow's internal stuff, as Shadow barely gave him a thought.

[@EternityVoid_]

@@Lusius8879 *Black Doom is his father. Infinite is more of a cracked mirror of Shadow imo.

[@Kaijuenjoyer-nv7qn]

Then why was Sunset Heights included then?

[@deltamachine343]

If it took place after Forces, maybe. But it was clear that this game happened after Sonic Colors.

[@soundwavetheminiconcarrier]

To add to the missing Shadow 05 level. Apparently there is a sound in the files called dcomet_sound and contains tons of sound effects from black comet and final haunt. So perhaps they planned to give us a black comet level but then it was just suddenly cut out for some reason or for time.

[@WhatISawJuly7th]

Sad bois

[@sonicthehedge]

The most likely explaination as it's odd that they only have one level on the third part that being only Chaos Island. I have a feeling they were aimming for "Eras" like Sonic Generations, like imagine Dreamcast Era Space Colony Ark Rail Canyon (since Seaside Hill is considered Dreamcast Era) Modern Era Shadow 05 Level Kingdom Valley Future Era Sunset Heights Chaos Island And well Doom's Hell aka Radical Highway as finale.

[@FoxHunter1438]

10 bucks It was replaced with radical highway

[@jonathanhusk6590]

Maybe DLC we r getting the movie DLC so maybe

[@thewackywarden]

I mostly agree with a lot of the desires listed here, but overall this one feels like a "quality over quantity" type deal. They pretty much knew they were doing Shadow once they saw him at the end of Movie 2, so that only gives them so much of a time window. While I'd have liked something a bit bigger, I'm glad they really buckled down and gave us something more polished than usual!

[@spongebobfan78]

7:50 I'm gonna argue that it's because, as of right now, Forces is the next canonical game that Shadow is involved. Him seeing and interacting with Infinite in Shadow Gens would create a plothole on why, in Forces, Shadow just dismisses Infinite (pre-modification) as nothing, when the jackal is pretty much a big part on why the world is plunged into chaos like wiping out GUN, for example. If he knows Infinite is a dangerous guy, he wouldn't be careless in defeating him easily. As for Sunset Heights being in the game, for all we know, Shadow could've only saw that, in the future, a city will be attacked by Eggman's robot army. He has no way on finding out WHY Eggman was able to launch such an attack. He only knows that it WILL happen.

[@deltamachine343]

Pretty much the plot holes with Classic Sonic knowing what will happen in the future.

[@FrancisL4D]

​@@deltamachine343classic sonic in gen became mania sonic creating a timeline split

[@2ndspringtube708]

Based on what’s actually available to the public about this game development,this is the shadow gens experience they’ve always planned for minus maybe few that isn’t much and rival fights could’ve possibly just be a thought but not much beyond that since they knew their budget and time would be spent in the remaster alongside this new side game ,they’ve definitely tried to balance out all elements of the game to its best ,if they forced more content they would’ve sacrificed something whether was it level length or presentation or anything much like how frontiers sacrificed theme variety for the sake of having 5 islands instead of just 3 although the fact that it seems shadow 05 never had a planned level is jarring ,that I believe they could’ve possibly been only choosing main series levels and they consider shadow 05 more of a spin off thus getting minor references rather then a stage representation much like what the secret rings is to base gens,just thoughts tho I might be wrong,for infinite I am almost certain they knew how many bosses they’ll have so from their choices ,you can’t replace anyone from the Bosses we have with infinite ,I am sure if we had one more boss gate before the final boss that would’ve been infinite

[@sonicthehedge]

I feel like they planned for eras like base Sonic Generations but had to cut a level most likely the level that would of taken alot of effort to make as they have no assets to rip off. Rail Canyon is the only level that they most likely had to remodel them. Kingdom Valley Assets was most likely just upscaled from 06. Also it's also odd that the third part of the game only has one level that being Chaos Island. Im convinced they most likely were planning to structure the game like this Dreamcast era Space Colony Ark Rail Canyon (Seaside Hill is considered Dreamcast era) Modern Era Shadow 05 level Kingdom Valley Future Era Sunset Heights Chaos Island And Radical Highway aka Doom's Hell as finale

[@MrTragedious986]

@@sonicthehedge picking a level from Shadow 05 would be fun but then again the levels from the old game were not as great.

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

To me, it felt a bit weird that 1: Sunset Heights and Kingdom Valley were in the same segment despite being a whole decade apart, and 2: That Chaos Island was just on it's own. If they added an extra Shadow level, they could put it next to Kingdom Valley, and move Sunset Heights next to Chaos Island so the 2 future levels are together.

[@PauloH100]

Apparently we would have Black Comet as the StH05 phase but it was cut for unknown reasons. But it has audio files named Dcomet.

[@Mecha_Madness]

Infinite could’ve been the only speed-based boss in Shadow Generations too

[@mitchellhancock7920]

There actually is a mention to the storybook games in Sonic Generations with the mention of Genies and magic books.

[@Jill-ql5sr]

Chaos island was the main kicker here

[@staticplays1871]

I don't think the prospect of a sonic boss fight is gone yet as the move DLC is almost here. Nothing confirmed but if we do get a rival fight, it's likely sonic, tails and knuckles. But we still know almost nothing about it. Could be a frontiers situation where the DLC will update the game overall, but it will only be this update.

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

6:50 Well this is just because even Sega knows Infinite is mid. And it would also make a plothole if Shadow finds out about Infinite before meeting him in Forces.

[@Lusius8879]

Infinite is absolutely not mid, but his game just fails to do him justice. Comics cover his ass way better.

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

@Lusius8879 His entire motivation is that he was butthurt that he lost to Shadow. Compared to all other Sonic villains with much better backstories, “mid” is actually overselling Infinite. Cool concept in theory, but literally the worst execution in the franchise.

[@Lusius8879]

@TheAlphazoneYT there's so much more to his motivation, but the butthurt of shadow is the only thing the game actualy shows. Also which "much better backstories"? Half the villains in the franchise are just some godlike diety for no reason. Chaos, dark gaia, the end, iblis/solaris (but not mephilis), black doom is just there cuz he wants to war and conquer, i don't know Lyric's story but I'm sure it sucks.

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

@Lusius8879 Well you kind of walked into the point there. Being a primordial god entity is markedly more interesting than simply being butthurt over one fight & whining that you’re not a weakling. Being an alien conqueror is also more interesting. Also no way you boiled down Chaos to just that, completely ignoring his caretaking role for the chao, friendship with Tikal, & new lore dropped in Frontiers.

[@Lusius8879]

@@TheAlphazoneYT you walked right into the point as well with Chaos. Yes he has solid backstory, but all of that is outside of his own game. Same goes for Infinite. Infinite has his entire pack and past when he was still named Zero. There's a lot of good backstory there. But just like chaos, his own game does not show any of it. As for the whole "divine being vs just butthurt" is completely undermining Infinite's phantom ruby powers (which is remarkably more interesting than "a god with godly powers cuz it's a god", and MIGHT hold a connection to The End and/or The Ancients, but that's tinfoil hat theory land). It's fine to hate him based on the game, cuz as I've said many times his own game treats him like shit. But he is absolutely not a bad villain if you look at the actual total package.

[@2ndspringtube708]

11:10 I’ll guess this is because only shadow and rouge were present at the end of base gens and omega wasn’t with them

[@PauloH100]

I think the most content I would put in the game would be the Black Comet level from StH05 and a boss fight against Emerl. I believe that Shadow The Hedgehog's best stage would be Black Comet, both because it has a very unique theme compared to the others (different from Westopolis, which would be similar to Radical Highway due to its city theme) but also because of its connection with Black Doom and the Black Arms in general

[@BlackFlash09]

I'd like DLC campaigns for Classic Metal Sonic and Silver.

[@adamandom]

i guess maybe the idea is that hes alien to sonic generations. Like, hes not supposed to be the one going through these stages. Sonic is, though the stages chosen (mostly) reflect the parallelism of Sonic and Shadow. Space Colony - is specifically Sonic's level Final Rush, and not Final Chase Rail Canyon - both Sonic and Shadow go through this stage Kingdom Valley - both Sonic and Shadow go through this stage Sunset Heights - both Sonic and Shadow go through this stage Chaos Island - no real connection afaik. Seems out of place tbh, the only connection being the word "chaos" lmao Radical Highway - The only stage in the game that is shadows alone (and even then sonic is technically supposed to go through it in generations if the 3ds version. Its also a parallel to City Escape, taking place very near eachother in time, story and location) I do remember hearing a theory that each of the bosses is either metaphorically or literally a "shadow of shadow" - Biolizard - pretty obvious, hes the precursor to Shadow - Metal Overlord - A copy of Sonic and Shadow - Mephiles - takes shadows appearance

[@jam9852]

Honestly They should have picked Westopolis over Radical Highway as a Final Stage for Black Doom it makes the most sense Story Wise plus it's the most Common Level you play again and again in Shadow 05 where you meet up with Doom's Eye for the first time Black Doom never met Shadow in Radical Highway a stage that's over used in Shadow Generations Infinite also needs to be added to the game as his character needs to be Redeemed plus A lost World Stage might as well be added since Frontiers got a stage in Shadow Generations a Game Shadow doesn't take part in? Heck I'd add in Astroid Coaster from Colors since Shadow appears in the 3Ds version of Colors that stage would be great for Shadow.

[@SilverStormShadow]

INFINITE BOSS FIGHT!!!

[@gabrielcarvalhoseixas3112]

6:51 In forces he literally says he doesn't remember infinity but said nothing about the city

[@gabrielcarvalhoseixas3112]

8:00 We would have three battles in arc(1)(Sonic vs shadow in generations)(2)(biolargard in shadow generations)(3) and emerl??

[@YTCyan]

My own personal issues with Shadow Generations boil down to a couple of things. Chaos Island doesn’t need to be in the game, I’d have rather had Asteroid Coaster considering on a technicality, Shadow was there in Colours DS, but if not, I’m perfectly fine cutting it out entirely. I would’ve much rather not had the Radical Highway sections in Space Colony Ark, Rail Canyon and Sunset Heights, I’d replace Radical Highway with Black Comet for the final stage, which would also replace the Black Moon (the weird eye thing with the tentacles) in the hub world. I’m more than fine with certain things just being cutscenes, like Emerl and Sonic, in fact, I’d have actually done something similar to the Radical Highway sections specifically just in Sunset Heights with Infinite where he warps the stage into Mystic Jungle. I’d have also made all stages completely 3D, with Act 1 and Act 2 having something to differentiate them if possible, say Rail Canyon being separated into Act 1 taking inspiration from Rail Canyon and Act 2 taking inspiration from Bullet Station, as well as Act 1 of Sunset Heights being normal, whilst Act 2 has Infinite show up and throw you into Mystic Jungle. So basically, here’s what I’d make the game like if I had creative control: Stage 1: Space Colony Ark Obtain Doom Spears Stage 2: Rail Canyon Regroup with Rouge and Omega Obtain Doom Blast Boss: Biolizard Obtain Doom Surf Stage 3: Kingdom Valley Save Gerald and Maria Boss: Metal Overlord Obtain Doom Morph Stage 4: Sunset Heights Boss: Mephiles Obtain Doom Wings Stage 5: Black Comet Boss: Devil Doom

[@staticplays1871]

I really, really wanted infinite to be a rival fight here since I think he is cool and the most interesting sonic character in recent memory. But I think the most logical reason he wasn't a rival fight was because he was from the future so shadow fighting him would alter the timeline while all the other bosses are either pre-generations, Shadow specific bosses, or a boss everyone fought like metal overlord. But their defeat was needed in order to fix the timeline. If Infinite was a rival fight shadow would need to lose or leave the fight, so he doesn't screw up the timeline

[@kunlesanders]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@kunlesanders]

I want Infinite the Jackal to be Shadow the Ultimate Lifeform's rival forever too. But it's not gonna happen anymore. Because Sonic and Shadow want to be rivals to each other instead.

[@Silvershadnic]

I want Infinite to come back as a redeemed villain (Redeemed in the sense of actually being treated seriously, instead of being sidelined).

[@With2Ls]

People keep saying “infinite wouldn’t work because it would be a retcon that he had met infinite before forces and why wouldn’t he remember him” but that’s what would make it work even more, because shadow already forgets about infinite after he causes him to turn evil in forces, so it would be funny if shadow meets infinite and forgets about him a second time he just finds him that weak

[@RiqMoney817]

The only way I’d see this working is Shadow not initially recognizing him when he took his squad out in Forces since he doesn’t have his mask on. In the actual game, Shadow didn’t recognize Infinite with the mask on until he reminded Shadow of when they first met. If they were to retcon this, it wouldn’t fit Shadow's character to just forget someone he previously faced.

[@deltamachine343]

That doesn't make it any better

[@SebinzoTheMessup]

but 06 levels are here

[@Legacy-b5e]

The only part I disagree with is Infinite being a boss. Timeline shenanigans. Anyway, I believe that black comet should have been in the game, instead of the final level being Radical Highway. Emeral would have an interesting fight as the more you fight him, the more of your abilities he could copy. And they could have added a Sonic Battle level too. Commander Tower would be pretty much like the biolizard, where the first part of the battle would be the same as the Shadow 05, before a complete change up. And it’s pretty disappointing that the only characters with a side quest are ORBOT AND CUBOT. These would all be cool additions honestly

[@allangarddegriss6798]

Jack's Pacific, we need Emrl figures !!!!!!

[@ChrisThePlayer777]

Shadow gens is a masterpiece

[@K7TZ]

Its very odd that metal sonic is a shadow boss fight instead of infinite

[@1DAR26]

The only level that shouldn't have been in Shadow Gens is Chaos Island. This should've been a STH2005 level. Someone mentioned the only reason Chaos Island is here because it was easy for them to reuse assets from Sonic Frontiers.

[@364wii]

I have 2 questions? What happened to that secret character on the site that was a question mark? And also how did doom come back he shows up before the time eater? Also as for the video where's a sonic lost world stage? And why there is a line of sonic bringing up genies so that's secret rings reference.

[@spongebobfan78]

1. The Japanese website was updated before the game's release. The question mark was now replaced with Black Doom, then Maria and Gerald were added. 2. The full compilation of the Dark Beginnings episode included a scene that shows that the Black Arm larvae (shown in Episode 2's flashback) is now a fully grown Black Doom. 3. Shadow isn't involved in Lost World. Chaos Island has a meta excuse of reusing assets from Frontiers in the same engine. 4. Why not? It is canon. There is no reason for the spin-offs to not be canon (unless it is based off a different subseries like Spinball for SatAM, Mean Bean Machine for AoSTH, Leapster game for Sonic X, and the Boom games for, well, Boom).

[@364wii]

@spongebobfan78 ok but I don't really give 3. A pass. Also that's interesting if a alian is around that turned Into Black Doom meaning he thought ahead if Shadow killed the aliens that were on earth. Cleaver Sega.

[@kunlesanders]

There's nothing left for Infinite the Jackal anymore. He's gone, dead, weak, and forgotten... forever. Permanently. Shadow the Ultimate Lifeform doesn't care. Sonic the Hedgehog and his friends don't care. Sega doesn't care either. Nobody cares. It is what it is.

[@Jill-ql5sr]

Sonic, infinite and Gerald should had been shadow 3 rival fight but the open world was more the focus

[@gamingdudedonal3312]

Let's not forget that "Shadow Generations" isnt an actual game its "sonic x shadow generations" the shadow part was always sold as an addon, never really a full size game

[@shady5595]

Except... It is? It may not be as big as previous games, and it may be a part of a larger package, but you'd be selling it way too short to call it an addon.

[@PauloH100]

Shadow Generations is considered a complete game. Sonic X Shadow Generations is actually considered a Bundle

[@manueljaramillo2520]

I think Shadow Gens was just fine the way it is. 🤷‍♂

[@SoulSideQuests]

I do as well, love this damn game 🙂‍↕️

[@WrecklezzENT]

People who think the game is fine the way it is will be the reason Sega will never release a good game again

[@kowabonga3552]

You forgot to include Tikal, SEGA keeps forgetting she's a fan favorite character from the Adventure era, and a great number of fans like shipping her with Shadow. Not only was this the perfect opportunity to bring her back into the lore, but it would also have been a great opportunity for her to interact with Shadow for the first time. But nah, SEGA would rather have Shadow smile at Big for no reason. 🙄

[@Aktedya1-jt7vw]

Shadow and Big's interactions were very wholsome and well worth it to me. But Tikal could be cool too. Putting her next to Chaos Island would be quite ironic

[@RiqMoney817]

I’ve never seen anyone online ship Tikal with Shadow 💀

[@kowabonga3552]

​@@RiqMoney817 You CLEARLY never looked for fanart of Shadikal on Twitter and Deviant Art. 🙄

[@soundwavetheminiconcarrier]

@@kowabonga3552 why would anyone look at those vile platforms?

[@kowabonga3552]

​@@Aktedya1-jt7vw Good thinking! For real, Sega should hire you and make that happen in Frontiers 2! 😂

[@MrTragedious986]

Alright dude to clarified why Infinite is not in the game is because it takes place during the same time in Sonic Generations if Shadow meets him for the first time it would be a weird retcon because he’s not supposed to meet him until Forces. Sunset Heights gets a pass since it doesn’t retcon anything, it’s future location he will appear. And for Emerl, oh boy that one is tough since they have to get creative on making that rival fight since he doesn’t appear in the 3D game. I think some of your lack of Sonic lore can be a bit questionable because sometimes you didn’t pay attention on the details.

[@WrecklezzENT]

Man stfu why does he go to Chaos Island from Frontiers?

[@nicholasaugello2534]

Why would he encounter infinite here if he hasn't met him? Yet in the timeline, it be cool but shadow at this point in the story wouldn't even be close in power to defeating infinite i doubt even the sonic generations version of super sonic could do it.

[@TheMarioandSonicfan]

It makes no sense for Infinite to be in this game as a boss because he hasn't met Infinite in the timeline this game takes place in also if he fought and beat Infinite Sonic forces would of never happened and I think there is a lot of Sonic fans would not care if that happened because of how boring it was.

[@AdamSelvig]

Bet they didn’t have the budget

[@peckneck2439]

That's why i refuse to pay full price for it. I already have sonic Generations, and Shadow Generations itself doesn't have enough content to justify the full asking price. All i want to know is why wasn't there a stage from Shadow The Hedgehog in Shadow Generations? Or a Stage from Unleashed. Or Colors? Hell, i'd take Lost World stage at this point too. The excuse of "well shadow wasn't in Unleashed and Colors so it makes sense why there wasn't any stages from these games lol" but then you look at Chaos Island and well... Was Shadow in Frontiers? No. Sonic Generations had 9 stages, Shadow Generations has 6. So i'm sorry, but as someone who already own Sonic Generations, This package for £45 is literally theft. I'll definitely get it once it's on a discount but let me tell you, i'd much rather Shadow Generations to just be a bigger, more complete game instead. Like Shadow The Hedgehog 2.

[@MrTragedious986]

@@peckneck2439 shadow generations is a bigger game despite having 6 levels. Sure it stinks to not have a level from Shadow 05 but it still managed to be good.

[@ShaleLee]

It was my first time playing Generations, and both the Sonic and Shadow campaign took about the same amount of time to complete. Shadow's is slightly shorter, since I did spend a bit of time messing around in the hub world. But if you didn't have an issue paying full price for just Sonic Generations, I don't think there's an issue paying full price just to gain access to the Shadow Generations.

[@RiqMoney817]

Emerl I understand, but I don’t think it would’ve made too much sense for Shadow to fight Infinite if they haven’t met at that point in time. I understand that “anything is possible with time travel”, but if Infinite was to be sent from the future, would he even know Shadow?

[@WrecklezzENT]

Stfu he goes to sunset heights you mf!!!!

[@bichoestranhocomcaudas6543]

Infinite is not a boss because Shadow didn't really know him and also Infinite would probably beat Shadow since Shadow Gens is weaker than Shadow in Forces

[@ORLY911]

Where are you guys getting these powerscalings from?

[@ShaleLee]

Shadow would still have won, because the game developers never cared about power scaling and are just making a game. The reason he's not included is because Shadow doesn't have enough stages to justify even more boss fights.

[@bichoestranhocomcaudas6543]

@ShaleLee would have agree with you if we were still in the 2010's,but it seems that now days Sonic team is actually trying to make some sense out of the lore and having a big inconsistency would go against that

[@ShaleLee]

@@bichoestranhocomcaudas6543 Lore and power scaling are two different things. The only Lore in place is that it's stated that Infinite was supposed to be the most challenging thing Sonic ever faced... Which was obviously just hype and exaggeration since he was still able to be defeated without the Chaos Emeralds, they weren't even considered. Based on what was actually delivered in game, Sonic seems to only have trouble because he was caught off guard, his second run in with Infinite went in Sonic's favor. So long as Shadow displays more caution (which he would since he's already gone into several boss arenas at this point), there's no reason why he can't win against Infinite, especially since unlike Episode Shadow, this isn't a case of Infinite laying a trap for Shadow to walk in on. It likely would be challenging, but not impossible. Also remember Forces isn't even that far after Generations.

[@bichoestranhocomcaudas6543]

@@ShaleLee Sonic was never displayed to be able to defeat Infinite,in their first fight infinite destroyed Sonic. The second fight happened right after Infinite stomped Silver. Sonic was stronger and that caught Infinite by surprise,but when Infinite stopped holding back he literally one shotted Sonic,Sonic was face down on the floor while Infinite didn't even seen to be bothered by the hits he took from Sonic at all. Then there's the war that happens by the end of the game where Infinite was about to one shot the entire Sonic cast (Sonic and Shadow included) and the reason they didn't all just die there was because the avatar countered Infinite with his own Phantom Ruby. The final fight against Infinite happened when Infinite was in his weakest state,with the Ruby not even close to its full power,and even like that Sonic needed the Avatar to actually beat Infinite. Just think,if Infinite was actually weak enough that Shadow in generations would be able to beat him then why did Shadow in Forces ran away the way he did? it would make a gigantic plot hole in a plot that's already mediocre as is

[@ExpiredPorridge]

gimme glyphic canyon or something

[@anthonyoliver418]

Although the game was fine as is, I’m sad there are no rival fights, imagine if you had the 2 you’ve showed in the thumbnail and a fight against Neo Metal Sonic, and he goes super showing that this is the IDW fight which would be a cool comic connection.

[@deltamachine343]

Sometimes less is more.

[@windy3935]

Usually I watch videos allt he way through before giving thoughts, but going by the title, this video seems pointless and bad faith. Saying "missing content" is a bit disingenuous. Firstly, almost any game is going to have scrapped/cut content that was intended for the game. Secondly, remakes almost always cut content that was in the original game. Thirdly, Shadow Generations is isn't even a remake, but more importantly, it's a budget title (and side game). Period, that's it. Sonic Generations skipped over a ton of history too. And if the point is raised on how there's no Shadow05 levels (particularly Westopolis since that's most people's example and the logical choice Sega would have chosen), it's obvious that was done to not have overlap with Radical Highway and other city-looking environments. What they did with the game EMULATES being in a Westopolis, especially that final boss.

[@SoulSideQuests]

I promise that I DO say multiple times that I do love Shadow Gens for what it is and that it didn’t necessarily NEED this stuff. This video is not me saying that the game is bad or anything, I was just surprised by a lot of stuff that we didn’t see more of is all, but of course I acknowledge that this is a smaller project.

[@sonicthehedge]

It's really dumb that the game called Shadow Generations and about Shadow's history with returning Black Doom doesn't include a level from the game that literally called "Shadow The Hedgehog". I have a feeling it was cut at some point as it would of taken alot of effort to upgrade PS2 era graphics. -Space Colony Ark assets were already in Generations -For Kingdom Valley they most likely they had 06 assets so it was easier to upscale -Sonic Forces and Frontiers needs no explaination. Rail Canyon is the only level that had no previous asset to rip off but Sonic Heroes is first before Shadow 05 so they most likely completed that first. Also it feels odd that third part of the game only has one level, Chaos Island. Mephiles fight also requires all the remaining 4 boss keys unlike the previous 2 which required 3 keys which gave the illusion of "choice".

[@Jill-ql5sr]

Radical highway was redone

[@MrTragedious986]

I mean not all the levels from Shadow 05 are all that fun.

[@sonicthehedge]

@@MrTragedious986 neither were the levels from Sonic Forces and Sonic Frontiers was an open world game, that doesn't make sense. Shadow 05 had a ton of levels to pick from: Westopolis, Lava Shelter, Black Comet, Sky Troops, Cryptic Castle, GUN fortress, etc. So many unique levels but they didn't have assets to rip from being a PS2 game.

[@sonicthehedge]

@@Jill-ql5sr They have so many city assets from Frontiers, Forces, and Generations. most likely they just edited them red and look "Radical Highway" The same way they took Chemical plant from Forces and make it look a little more "Final Fortress" for Metal Overlord fight but it's still obviously it's ripped from Forces.

[@MrTragedious986]

@ Westopolis, Digital Circuit, Black Comet, Lava Shelter, and Cryptic Castle are good levels to be in Shadow Generations but every levels in Shadow the Hedgehog are either dragged out or not interesting due to 3 missions. Sunset Heights can get a pass since it’s a level that Shadow appears in Sonic Forces, but Frontiers is a head scratcher.

[@magnusbrydon4645]

What we need to do is beg for SEGA to give us a new episode Shadow dlc for this game but have the story be with Infinite as the antagonist.

[@kowabonga3552]

I'd rather SEGA save Infinite for later, maybe have been the main villain of Silver's game if he ever gets lucky.

[@YPhilou]

we still don't know who's the 4th character

[@kunlesanders]

It's not gonna happen. Because Sega and Sonic Team lied to us.

[@DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE]

we need episode sonic