Windows 10 vs Windows 11 vs Admin GAMING BENCHMARKS

[@cyroz1]

thanks for your service

[@raiyankhanmajlis6112]

Brilliant video, I was desperately waiting for discussion on this topic from an gaming optimization standpoint.

[@j3m638]

The optimizer packs was how I found you & they are highly appreciated Chris .I'll be looking forward to the custom ISO tests as I do use them here & there. Thx m8!

[@kruger7796]

For everyone messing around with custom OS installs. Just know that the vast majority of them are just different combination of scripts like the ones in this video. There is nothing special or unique about something like Atlas OS or whatnot. Great video as always! Looking forward to the one about custom windows installs.

[@turn1p]

Literally the best video i've ever seen on this topic. No one ever has the full picture and i always feel i have to do it myself. But for once, you've done it and you've done a really good job. Thank you!!

[@peterv.9399]

Hardware Unboxed confirmed in a Twitter post that running the game as Administrator (inside a regular account) had the same positive benefit as using the hidden Administrator account

[@FR33THY]

yeah wish i read that earlier, wasted my time

[@griffin1366]

Nice video! I was curious about this as well and found they were the exact same!

[@thachester]

@Fr33thy single handly one of the few out there that understand os optimizations.

[@Cosmic.Origin.exe.]

Straight forward, we'll explained, methodology and all statistics made available.fyi I have run both the 10 and 11 custom os you have provided with 0 issues, if anyone is concerned. Ty for the insight

[@Relics]

LETS go, Fr33thy uploaded

[@DanVQX]

Goated video, as always. Thanks!

[@griffin1366]

22:07 - Yep I can agree here as well. Have been down the rabbit hole myself.

[@shadowmuneeb6551]

Bro woke up and dropped another banger. Your guide really made my PC offer the performance i wanted. Thank you for your detailed guides Chris ❤.

[@donce114]

Freethy, you are truly the least biased out of all the youtube schizos with latency. Thanks for the best and genuine information! Keep the videos rolling!

[@JanKowalski-pk2ry]

great job! I'm waiting FR33THY for a video about optimizing network cards and the Internet!

[@NLPaIm]

Hell yeah good job Chris 👍🏼

[@smokyx]

looking forward that video about debunking custom win installs, show em Chris! fire content

[@giftig694]

i see you feeling good ;) thanks for doing all this, love this info

[@ReaperHackz]

W! video man killing it.

[@a2daj83]

from all the stuff i've watched/read, for 99% of gamers/users - it really doesnt matter. just use the os you like, the performance might be a few % different depending on the game/rig/os optimisations

[@JShune]

just came in the right time, thank you

[@RangerAlone]

I miss Windows 7.. You actually felt like you owned your own OS as that time. Today, unfinished updates are shoved down your throat and more likely than not creating problems after updating. They are removing features we are accustomed to. They put fcking ads in solitaire and put it behind a paywall.. It just bothers me so much. I really hope that someone ever manages to revive Windows 7 properly. It's not just that you felt like you where actually in control, it's also about it being user friendly in settings. Windows 10 also did a pretty good job and I like that to.. But Windows 11... what the fck..

[@noicebravo4434]

AND HERE IT IS! HAS TO BE CHRIS! WELL DONE!

[@alexgavril6875]

Please do a cs2 optimization guide. The internet is full of bs settings. Please up vote this comment! Thank you!!!

[@Advancstas]

Yes

[@mikie2008]

In a few years times we will see fr33thy running linux :)

[@yellowtoblerone]

They'll make me switch to 11, when i'm cold dead in the ground feeding the worms

[@ifryno]

Banger as always

[@byBriian]

always giving the best info, you're to much

[@RadRebelMx]

Chris holding the devil horns on the hand signs on that the thumbnail

[@halligalli6458]

I tried myself gaming on linux on steam. I found it felt better but didn't measure. Maybe a video on performance on linux?

[@FR33THY]

im thinking about this, but measuring framerate, latency and 0.1% lows would be tedious

[@skaBABBLZ]

One thing I’ve learned thanks to Chris since trying to tweak things over the years and breaking and reinstalling windows probably over 50 times in the last 3 years. “MOST THINGS YOU THINK MATTER DONT MATTER AT ALL. IF YOU WANT MORE FRAMES, BUY BETTER HARDWARE.” Has let me just do the things that matter with basic overclocking and removing stock windows garbage and just ENJOY THE DAMN GAME🤣 I was playing with shit and breaking shit more hours than I was even playing games. Hope this gets through to any other rabbit hole placebo victims

[@agentoranj5858]

Having to fix things I break is a little bit annoying but tweaking is kind of a hobby in itself. I don't consider it time wasted.

[@skaBABBLZ]

@@agentoranj5858 Agreed. I still like to look into what things work and what doesn’t til this day. I’ve been in phases where I’d reinstall just to time myself how fast I can fully optimize things I know won’t break the system over and over just cuz🤣 it’s just nice to know over the years it’s really simple as to what we know actually makes a difference, and it doesn’t take a lot of time outside of buying better hardware

[@rogeriocastromoura2042]

FR33THY maniac in optimization !!

[@cppctek]

Huge props for all the work you put into this. ❤❤thank you for an epic dive and exploration of this.

[@alkestos]

Thank you for all the hard work you do for us.

[@cppctek]

Ooooo can’t wait for the custom iso video ❤❤

[@SassyLo]

I love the optimizations brother. 1 thing tho, what do i need to reenable when downloading something? My speeds are too slow when downloading a game?

[@barrybondz4483]

11 is the most buggy pos. I am like you, switching between 11 and 10 occasionally. I definitely just notice these random weird bugs. They don't even come to my mind what they actually were because I have been on 10 for months, but it was super annoying in the moment. 10 just doesn't have it. Bizarre 100%

[@fred2108]

Excellent I fell you have put my mind at rest now, great job many thanks 😊👍

[@aleksi6170]

Ur optimization packs are the best

[@IamMxfia]

eyy new Vid Vibes😍

[@Ford.]

great vid as usual , i had a question about the most recent optimization pack, my restore points wont work with the services powershell script set to off when i set it to default it begins to work again tho. what services do i need to reenable to fix this? i tried turning on the volume shadow copy service but no avail, help would be apperciated, cheers!

[@FR33THY]

things wont work with services disabled, did you read the massive red text warning you on this? it's a pointless thing to do revert it

[@Ford.]

@FR33THY I did, I tested my performance with it on and off and there was basically no difference. honestly I just liked the idea of minimal background services though lmao thank you for the reply though

[@TheUnderratedChannel.]

So professional.

[@aparato1993]

The GOAT until steamOS actually becomes something good, keep up with the amazing work, thank you for all you do!

[@dillacorn_linux]

It would be nice to see proton experimental and/or glorious egg roll testing vs these windows benchmarks as well.

[@freesS3]

Thx for the detailed vid! What is the best Nvidia driver atm? Still 552.44? Or is the latest one fixed by now with the 1% lows?

[@FR33THY]

latest is fine

[@freesS3]

@@FR33THY Thank you, appreciate the reply 🫡

[@Fragil1ty]

420.69

[@nyne4664]

unless you have issues latest is good

[@6666-l5g]

Best pc tweaker in the game, thanks for your service! I know you HATE monitors but please do a new monitor video lmfao. Need to know what the best 1440p monitors are for FPS games like Warzone.

[@FR33THY]

1440p 360hz qd oled!

[@6666-l5g]

@@FR33THY Noted - THANKS!

[@Ladioz]

I haven't had the biggest issues with Win 11. It's been behaving stable for me. Ofcourse I miss Windows 10... its so snappy and fast on a good cpu and fast ssd. My main priority is graphics drivers. On AMD it has been hit and miss lately... i forgot the last time I kept it up to date

[@FR33THY]

yea its all good man, use what you like!

[@FORGOTTEN1_]

Kinda weird to hear that, since AMD has been dropping some stable updates over the last months, but hey each graphics is different.

[@Ladioz]

@@FORGOTTEN1_ The latest AMD driver is excellent in games however the card suddenly produced coil whine while being 1% usage and 9W power in desktop. I had to revert to 24.5.1 to remove the noise. Ill definitely update to the latest one next month and give it a try

[@JustKanji]

I currently have both windows 10 and 11 installed on my PC because I wanted to dualboot to try win11. When playing Valorant there's no noticeable difference. Honestly both are fine but I am sticking with win11.

[@sobrietyisrad33]

i always look forward to your videos, do you have any new optimizations?

[@gizmo111]

if nobody got me i know Fr33thy Windows Optimization Packs got me 😤😤

[@MJVH777]

You know I run... low everything then turn on low Ray tracing and man the visuals are so clear... wish you show the latency for Ray tracing results.

[@FR33THY]

would come down to gpu usage and frame rate the latency difference, why dont you use frame view to measure the latency yourself. i did a video on how!

[@w4r1lord8]

Benchmark the custom OS vs your setup is what I would like to see.

[@alMighty8989]

Hi, I have a problem where my applications, like single-player games, randomly minimize. After hours of research, I read that it could be related to the RAM, and that I should lower the MHz, but the issue still isn’t fixed. I don’t know what else to do. Do you have any ideas about what it could be? (A few months ago, I used your open-source scripts-thanks again for that! However, the problem with the minimizing programs existed before that.) PC: 5700X3D, 3600 ram 32gb, 4070 super msi, win 10 (as long as possible)

[@griffin1366]

I've had a similar issue in the past. Steam friends list ended up being the problem. Try appearing offline!

[@alMighty8989]

@@griffin1366 Steam isn’t running when this happens. :( It started with AC: Valhalla, where it occurred every 10 minutes (after downgrading the RAM, it only happened once per session). Now I’m playing Cyberpunk, and it happens about once an hour, sometimes only once per session. In very rare cases, it happens in multiplayer games like Valorant or CS2, but that’s really rare.

[@griffin1366]

@@alMighty8989 What background programs do you have open? Any RGB, AV etc?

[@alMighty8989]

@@griffin1366 when I play SP-Games nothing is open and else prob. only Discord/Chrome.

[@CrazySerb-b5g]

​@@alMighty8989Try a different keyboard, check if your MOBO chipset drivers and BIOS are up to date, as there were known issue with newer Ryzens and USB devices, which were later solved with updates. Sorry if you wrote you've already done this and I just didnt read it.

[@K9PT]

Very nice benchmark.

[@Killjoy.Z]

Hey Fr33th, I have heard that you basically need Windows 11 for 8000hz mouse support. Is this true?

[@toonnut1]

I've just been testing this with a spare hard drive the only problem I've came across is the afterburner overlay I've got the 13900kf with all e and p core's running but the overlay isn't showing it properly it shows some on top of the other. Do you have a fix for this?

[@Kevin-op7nn]

is it still recommended to use the default balanced power plan for the enhanced 3d cache boosting algorithms or can we use the ultimate performance plan in the optimization pack?

[@FR33THY]

unless your parking cores, it doesnt matter

[@eric-hx6hy]

I'm going to enjoy the next video very much. Custom iso needs to be eradicated.

[@LeGoMyLegHo_3yrsLater]

smokes in cs2 are beautiful but look at the latency when flying through, from ~ 1.8ms to ~ 3.5ms :(( on this hardware, thats just ass!

[@Bruhskey]

Yep, we back on 10 boys

[@Behavoid]

we always have been on 10.

[@aleksi6170]

It doesnt matter😂

[@adamarmstrong5780]

never left.

[@user-vl4iq7bj5e]

windows 10 gang forever

[@sirdawn4325]

Ur cpu all cores enabled or just using cache cores on test?

[@FR33THY]

github link explains everything, ccd1 is disabled. its basically a 7800x3d

[@jm275]

what windows 11 version did you use and which windows 10 version?

[@griffin1366]

Windows 11 23H2 Windows 10 22H2 All updated to the latest updates. I know you will ask about 24H2 but that isn't released yet, and from personal testing I didn't find any difference.

[@gopthygoos]

which keyboard do you have i just wanted to buy new so thought to ask someone who is pro

[@FR33THY]

80he

[@Khufuuuuu]

What are your thoughts on Processor performance time check interval set to 5000?

[@alkestos]

placebo

[@temmorijken5762]

please do a video on windows defender

[@RoRoKid1999]

Is there any decent (preferably free) alternative to defender which is less cpu intensive?

[@pigzera]

ublock origin and not downloading unknown things xd

[@iDeker]

@@pigzerayeah and using your brain. Lol

[@FabioMV95]

Kaspersky free... try and you will see

[@RoRoKid1999]

@@FabioMV95 Thanks!

[@shotarcherz1690]

Woah the goat :)

[@michaelpach5803]

Is there any kind of script for all the optimasations like a one click script which run all of this?

[@idkhow2play190]

why wallpapers switched in tumnail of this video

[@markuspunkt7318]

good Job

[@joshplays7491]

What versions of operating system did he use 22h2 etc..?

[@aiien8768]

customs os,s are only for people who dont want to optimize their pc by themselves, i have fox os win 11 and comparing it to base win 11 there is definitely a massive fps boost and wayyy lower latency and there is reverts for different things. but i agree with you i shouldnt have trusted a os that could have been a btc miner or something worse.

[@aiien8768]

@@sunix75 4070 super 13700k

[@adiosn4125]

Hello, I have 14900k and 4090, I am happy with it, but I can log in to CS2. I can easily play for 15, 20 minutes, sometimes even more. Then, it quits the game without any errors, that is, it returns to the desktop and the game closes. What could be the reason? I followed the degrees with MSI Afterburner. CPU MAX TEMP in the game for 35 and 45 minutes: 69 -71 GPU MAX TEMP: 45-52 I'm sure it's not caused by overheating and this problem only exists in CS2. There is no problem in other games. :/

[@K9PT]

Windows 11 Administrator is a BAD move.

[@supernice_auto]

why

[@giftig694]

@@supernice_auto security

[@metikjaer1457]

how would it work at custom resolution in cs2 like 1280x960 at streched 4:3 settings? thx

[@cliche_AF]

10 all day , everyday 👌

[@FR33THY]

w10 cult lesgo

[@adolfcattler]

W11 is okay but the file explorer sucks ass and missing features from 10 that was the red flag for me.

[@The_Anker]

I like to use OneCommander app instead of Explorer. Great file manager I must say. It is free

[@Alexx_80]

Actually Windows 11 (24H2) file explorer has more features than Windows 10 file explorer. FYI

[@VnikXum]

Win 11 needs more optimization and tinkering to get the same level of performance as Win 10.

[@IamMxfia]

This, on win10 it was so simple for example disable background apps, on 11 u need to do that via group policy or reg edit

[@mrazbyte3150]

Gonna jump to 10 LTSC for the best results

[@b4g4b3l]

can you recommend the best rtx 4070 that doesnt require me to sell a kidney ?

[@timestamppatrol]

hai, im put a comment for your video not for hating or anything. I just want your channel getting better. 7:08 the texts are too small, I found my self hard to read it, 1/3 of the screen not getting use. Still readable tho but just need more effort, except that everything is fine. That's it thank you for the video.

[@smokyx]

the GOAT 🐐

[@aayushvermani5470]

if u can a video on valorant optimization would be nice . this game does really hit me in the head with its issues

[@kpm4620]

If you’re turning defender off, what are you using instead?

[@IamMxfia]

nothing, common sense not to download any exe file from the interwebzz or go to shady websites

[@kpm4620]

@@IamMxfia I get that, but doesn’t it also protect your computer if it’s just connected to the internet?

[@Johnny91832]

@@IamMxfia sometimes common sense is exactly the reason someone gets infected.

[@Johnny91832]

@@kpm4620 it does protect your computer, keep ur AV on.

[@tacoterito22]

Thank you so much, finally a realistic test, all this youtubers are testing things wrong, no wonder they are getting 35% performance uplift, and dont think there is anything wrong with their testing. Stupid stuff we see on this "big" tubers...

[@boogeyman4842]

what's the best ram for low settings competitive settings cpu bound gaming? 7800X3D (i know ram makes little diff here, but i want the best, even if it's little)

[@FR33THY]

just copy my github timings and maybe try 2133flck

[@mickeylickey]

If I disable defender by using a next antivirus would that be better?

[@Lichshield]

Good question, what I would say is try it, also is that if you don't install any game outside of steam you won't need antivirus, just don't install software that you don't know or from sketchy websites.

[@delatroy]

😑0.1% lows in CS2 dropping from 845 to 261

[@FR33THY]

yeah those smokes are toxic lol, bad game optimization. devs are delusional.

[@delatroy]

@@FR33THYI still have faith in valve. All CS sucked for a while previously

[@surajbhowal5846]

Not everyone plays competitive games all the time. Please include some other games as well. Games like RDR2, GOW, Elden Ring, Dragon's Dogma 2, and others would be fine addition to the test

[@FR33THY]

these are more variable and don't have a latency tool built in

[@surajbhowal5846]

@@FR33THY I'm not worried about the latency part. Hardware unboxed showcased that the hidden admin account allowed the CPU to push harder and get a few more frames. It is possible that that was only possible in ryzen CPU. I would like to see a test on the same games as he used but on an Intel CPU. Also, how does it affect Windows 10? They are what I'm curious to see

[@FR33THY]

@@surajbhowal5846 thats what i just debunked? its not a ryzen thing its a "some games run better as admin" thing

[@surajbhowal5846]

@@FR33THY You debunked using competitive games only. We are back to square one. never mind.

[@00oatmeal]

win11 seems to run smoother on my pc but also very buggy

[@a1wayz-blink]

bro i no understand english please tell me 10 or 11 for gaming

[@npcwill283]

I am building a new pc this week . been a while since I been to the channel can someone forward me to the latest windows install video ?

[@Pe721]

include kirbyOS in your testing

[@FR33THY]

Oh I definitely will

[@fvse1]

🤝

[@vvortexe]

nice

[@Azureskies01]

GabeN save us with SteamOS on desktop, please!

[@winter12218]

FR33THY Roblox not working after optimization, help please, ultimate optimized...

[@FuriousStylezOfficial]

Windows 10 for the win, baby!

[@vvortexe]

10 ftw

[@TechnoEveryday]

Good 🎉🎉🎉