GUILLIMAN'S INVASION OF NIHILUS! WHAT DO WE KNOW?

Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're discussing the commencing of Roboute Guilliman's invasion of Imperium Nihilus! How the time has finally arrived for him to cross the Rift...
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[@Scott_the_Celt]

But the real question is... WHEN ARE THE BROTHERS GOING TO FINALLY MEET?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@rogerbrownreacts8528]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next Primarch meets either first.

[@Tortle-Man]

This is set LONG before the Lion Wakes up. TBH we don’t know the date the Lion Wakes up, so he may have awoken but it’s long before Arks of Omen.

[@warlordjr.jr.]

​@@Tortle-Mantbf nobody really knows the date on either side of the Imperium.

[@Scott_the_Celt]

@warlordjr.jr. so is this Guilliman crossing the rift the first time, or had he done it once already?

[@jaskim5723]

I would find it funny if they both crossed over at the same time.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

Imagine Gulliman returns to Terra with the Lion just when the Highlords want to rebel again. Highlords of Terra: "The Lord commander has been away for too long. Time for us to seize the power." *Knocking on the door* Highlords: "Who's there!? This meeting is limited to the Highlords of Terra only!" Lionel: "Change of management. My brother wanted to go back to his realm to manage his business. So I'll in charge of this council from now on".

[@rajukoley9249]

The might have changed but he still has similarities to his past self so I think he'll just kill them all and paint the walls with the highlords blood. Also, I doubt that he would leave to manage his realm. I am sure he will continue to manage the imperium.

[@unbreakablelag]

I think the inquisition is going to be the next Imperial problem faction.

[@josephweymon8020]

Lol, then we get the next answer to imperial problem factions.....enter "THE RUSS!" 🐺

[@elijahgrimm8052]

@@unbreakablelag That will happen when Leman comes back. He's got a score to settle with them.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@rajukoley9249 Yeah. But Gulliman's principles have always been about redundancy. He talked about the possibility of his death even before the Heresy. By his standard the Ultramarines both failed and successfully passed the test of time, after his death they still hold true to his teaching but also became stiff and can't think outside of the boxes aside from some outstanding individuals within the chapter. If the Lion can handle the imperium politics he will provide a great deal of redundancy in leadership in case that Gulliman is killed again or separated from the imperium. Maybe Gulliman wants to send the Lion to see if his reforms have made a change, he's not above listening to other people's input, maybe he wants to see how the Lion will handle it too. If the nobles don't appreciate Gulliman's carrot, they will get the stick from the Lion.

[@Tortle-Man]

We have jumped around a lot this edition. I think this book is set before Guilliman crossed the rift and before he met the blood Angels. So to the current time, this is actually set in the past relative to the Arks of Omen. The Arks of Omen haven’t happened yet, neither has Vashtorr or the Lion.

[@ragingmoderate6791]

That was my thought when I listened to genefather. That gullimqn hadn't even crossed yet to bring Dante his primaris reinforcements.

[@Pedroz0r]

I was actually thinking about this, didn’t Guilliman go to Baal already? Or will this be before that?

[@mtgo9686]

this has confused me as well.

[@ragingmoderate6791]

Okay so I went and did a bunch of reading trying to piece together all of these questions, and it sounds like Devastation of Baal and Lion Son of the Forest. Both take place after the Dawn of Fire series. So Genefather also takes before G-man brings reinforcements to Dante and makes him Lord Protector of Emperium Nihilus. Obviously this isn't directly from black library, but it makes the most sense.

[@mtgo9686]

@ragingmoderate6791 only way it makes sense storywise. just confusing for us due to timeline of the lore coming out

[@alastor8091]

>Atillan Gate >Gets its name from Atilla the Hun >basically Eastern European Mongols >Mongols >The warriors Jaghatai takes inspiration from Please for the love of God let Jaghatai come roaring out of the Gate to save Guilliman from an ambush or something. PLEASE GW! PLEASE GIVE US JAGHATAI!!!

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

I'd like to say dropping Khan so quickly after Lion feels a little rushed, but then again rushing things is on brand for Jaghatai. We also had Robute and Magnus dropping almost simultaneously with Morty dropping just a year later, so it would also be on brand for GW to do this.

[@CMTechnica]

@@attemptedunkindness3632also, Abaddon

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

@@CMTechnica Uhhh... you mean the non-Primarch who has been around since 1996 and only got a model update in 2019? That Abaddon?

[@hakonsgaming535]

I'm pretty sure all the references to Atilla are to the world Atilla where the Atillan rough riders come from, those were one of the old school guard regiments though rules wise they were a unit that guard armies fielded as squad's/detachments. Atilla was back in the day just as notable as Cadia or Mordia, or Valhalla or Tallarn.

[@simonbirch5726]

@@attemptedunkindness3632whose to say it will be quick? Maybe GW will keep us in he current status quo for a year or two before we hear the end of bobby g on Nihilus

[@DTOMbillhilly]

Big daddy Gman gonna cross the rift and lay the smacketh down on chaos.

[@theanathema3062]

Can’t wait till he finds the Lion messing around over there.

[@jonharrison9222]

Didn’t he already go to help out Dante…? With a legion-sized force big enough to reinforce the BA and all but one of their successors? We already know RG used the Primaris to reinforce chapters on both sides of the rift, so how can he do that WITHOUT a legion of Space Marines under his direct command?

[@Tortle-Man]

This is set BEFORE Guilliman crosses the rift. So it’s actually set in the early 9th edition time line. Makes sense given the focus on Necrons.

[@rumigraciea8216]

My suspect they went to crucial system first and being Sanguinius sons they are on the top of the list. Then he saw how capable Dante is so Roboute tasked him to the regent so he could have more time gathering forces.

[@petitnormand1066]

​@@Tortle-ManExcept that to get to their planet he had to cross the rift, right? Moreover, on maps located in the dawn of fire saga, we see that the Primark battle group (the part of its fleet in which it is) did not go up to Baal but followed the edge from the rift, before descending towards ultramar. It was only after the plague wars that he vowed to go to Nihilus. I initially thought that the liberation of the planet of BA was actually much further back in the timeline than we think. He took a little over a decade to get to his kingdom so I figured it could have taken him about the same time to get to Baal, so the planet would be liberated at the same time or a little before the war on Vigilius ended, but with the variations in warp time we didn't know except now we learn that he wasn't in nihilus So what happened? the planet of BA is in fact not yet liberated? or was there a battle group that went up to Basel with the price mark in it but this was not notified and therefore it contradicts the cards? I'm quite lost

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

Those Chaos chapter masters will better have their papers in order.

[@Tortle-Man]

The very word Chaos Chapter Master gives me conniptions.

[@michaelhowell2326]

I really wish Guilliman would get the chance to smack Abaddon around. I know he cant be allowed to kill him but he's got it coming.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

Kill Abbie, bring Lorgar as Warmaster. Years of narratives and setup are leading to this. Or just make Abbie a kind of human Belakor, lost everything and now lead a small warband and is trying to topple Lorgar.

[@ricomock2]

"...Perhaps making a new Cadia" That would fit well with the events of the book Creed. The Cadians are looking for a new home world to settle and reestablish the guards greatest marshal peoples. Such a location would be very fitting for the survivors of such a prominent fortress world

[@TheSpicyLeg]

We need to see what happens when Guilliman finds out the Lion is back. Preferably by just running into the Lion. That would be absolutely epic.

[@augapfel6993]

And funny... *Dorn* probably

[@johanstinson]

"Lord Bobby G. We have a massive warp distortion coming from the systems edge." "Do we know who it is?" "I don't know sir, but whoever it is, there's thousands of ships detected." "Send out a fleet wide call to prepare for battle. Whoever it is will pay dearly for their temerity." *fleet wide call for battle sent out* One after another ship after ship transitions into Real Space from the warp. One single ship, then dozens, then hundreds, then thousands tear into realspace trailing warp stuff from their hulls. "Have we got an identification on the lead ship? Which one of my traitor brothers has shown up to be destroyed?" "Lo....Lord...Lord Guilliman, the lead ship...it's the IInvincible Reason! My lord, it appears that the Dark Angels are here. All of them, sir!" As Lord Guilliman starts to tell the Ship Master to open a channel the vox springs to life. With a crackle and hum Lord Gulliman hears a voice he has not heard in 10 000 years, a voice he had not expected to ever hear again..... "Brother, I have come. The Dark Angels are here. It has been a long time Brother, clear my shuttle for transport. I'm on my way," Lord Guilliman clenches the arms of his throne, expression unreadable. Serfs that dared to risk a look saw their Lord visibly relax, with what may have been a flicker of relief flash imperceptibly across his stoic and stern features. "Ship Master, it seems my Brother, the Primarch of the Dark Angels....Lion El Johnson is coming for a visit. Open the vox and give his shuttle the co-ordinates for Hanger Bay 1. Notify my Captains and have them meet me at Hanger 1." With that Lord Guillamin heaves his massive frame out if his throne, pauses for a moment and looks around..... "The Emperor provides" He then strides out of the Bridge, to go meet a Brother he never thought he would see again. In the years that pass after this event some would say that Lord Guilliman had an energy to his stride not seen in years

[@Dadecorban]

Its quite clear when using "the eve of" is not a literal eve. When discussing in operations and campaigns perhaps lasting months and years across literature, genres, and works on military art that the term is almost never used literally.

[@davidmiddleton7958]

Time runs contrary in Imperium Nihilus. Messges could take years to get through, and cost many astropaths their lives! (Though it will be nice to see Guilliman & the Lion!) But the task before Guilliman is Herculean! (Sorry, I have been waiting to use that line.) I know the Primaris are the favoured choice, but, if all there is available are Emporerer template Space Marines (I hope that term is okay.)

[@SuperBeautifulNoise]

I'm looking fforward to hearing about these future stories here.

[@KarbhonBlaC]

Where ever Gulliman goes , the Emperor is close . Let no world be beyond his wrath.

[@harambememorialpage]

*The Lion immediately slapping him:* “brother, IN FATHERS NAME, WHY SLEEP WITH AN ELDARI?!”

[@Zuemmel]

Better than sleeping alone!

[@harambememorialpage]

@@Zuemmel I mean he does have a Eldari sister even if she’s still stuck in the Warhammer library?

[@celsetialarchives5909]

Didn't guiliman cross the rift to save dante Or was that a one time thing before he said fuck that i need more forces and withdrew across the rift to prep

[@i_am_stil_nameless.]

I think so yea, because that clearly happened before this. since dante was already primaris when he met the lion

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Pretty much yeah. He got there, saw how shit it was, and thought to himself: “…I’m gonna need more guns”

[@i_am_stil_nameless.]

@@TheCorrodedMan after doing some research I think that this is stil in the early 9th eddition setting, so dante isnt primaris here yet

[@TheCorrodedMan]

@@i_am_stil_nameless. Still, that was basically his reaction to the whole Great Rift situation. No yelling or throwing things in rage and frustration, as would be expected and in all honesty quite understandable. No, he just pulled up his (extra)big boy shorts, tipped his blue flatcap, and set to work unfucking the Imperium one bureaucratic hell-pit at a time, whistling a jaunty tune as he went.

[@petitnormand1066]

moreover, on maps located in the dawn of fire saga, we see that the Primark battle group (the part of its fleet in which it is) did not go up to Baal but followed the edge from the rift, before descending towards ultramar. it was only after the plague wars that he vowed to go to Nihilus. I initially thought that the liberation of the planet of BA was actually much further back in the timeline than we think. he took a little over a decade to get to his kingdom so I figured it could have taken him about the same time to get to Baal, so the planet would be liberated at the same time or a little before the war on Vigilius ended, but with the variations in warp time we didn't know except now we learn that he wasn't in nihilus so what happened? the planet of BA is in fact not yet liberated? or was there a battle group that went up to Baam with the primark in it but this was not notified and therefore it contradicts the cards? I'm quite lost

[@willhull9839]

Honestly I really think Gilman will be happy and relieved when they finally cross into the unknown. For he will be away from all the headaches of the high lords and he can do as he sees fit to push on

[@heirwolf6929]

"On the eve of..." seems to be able to mean everything from just the night before to a couple of years, depending on context. On planning a campaign, especially one on the scale of Guilliman's capacity, I'd say it could mean at least a couple of weeks, months or more.

[@davidthomas2870]

Utilizing a semi stable coridor to deposit a large force into nihilus to blitz the rear of the gauntlet is quite the daring gambit. I cant help but imagine some tech heresy will he happening to keep this expeditionary fleet going

[@timothylyons5686]

Interesting point the Atillan gate appears to be within The space occupied by the Sautekh dynasty. Do you really believe that once Gulliman has crossed the rift with his fleet lmotekh the Storm Lord is just going to wave bye bye or (as he hasva new model) he's going to strike at this fleet from the rear. Especially as there is the Necron structure the Ygma monolith in the heart of the passage.

[@lucahunter2750]

i just want a full audiobook done by Rho soo soo bad

[@Sodamanonzo]

So the Tyranids are pushing on Terra, and winning, but we’re going to cross the rift? Madness.

[@Thought_Processing_]

Well if it’s called the Atillan Gate I would guess it’s near the world of Attila where the Atillan rough riders come from.

[@v02max75]

I find myself wondering how this is all going to play out? I can see a possibility that the brothers get trapped on the other side of the rift and have to battle for survival, Terra is then left "wide open" to assaults, thus setting the stage for more loyalist Primarchs to return for the "End times". Both Vulkan and Russ are prophesied to return and I wonder if this might be the stage that is set. Essentially, exactly the same situation as the Heresy.

[@roboutegiiliman-prime9074]

Well everyone, tell me what do you think: Me: The Emperor Protects 😂 Thanks for a great summary Lord Rho🛡️

[@francisyn7584]

Guillman feel like Iulius Valerius Maiorianus the last western roman emperor that tried to reclaim and reforge the Empire but was betrayed and arrested by his own generals

[@markrtoffeeman]

We know Gulliman is going to kick arse. That is what we know.

[@muurloen]

Victory. That is what the preachers cry from the spires of their temples. What commanders tell the soldiers in their service. The Indomitus Crusade meets with triumph after triumph. Day by day, we tear Imperium Nihilus from the Despoiler's grip. And though we are beset on all sides, with each battle we drive back the mutant, the heretic, THE ALIEN. As I speak these words, our forces engage the remnants of Leviathan. Reclaiming lost worlds, atoning for old shames. A crusade to cleanse the stars. Taking the fight to the enemy. We routed the Tyranids at Baal. We broke their hive fleet. Soon, their foulness will be but a memory. THAT is what the preachers say. Gulliman is lamenting the propaganda that Preacher & Commanders are telling the masses.

[@nicoblake8140]

Nice

[@starburst98]

I would love guilliman and lion to fight back to back, lion blocking blows with the shield and spins out of the way for guilliman to hit it with the sword. Just wombo combo on one of the daemon primarchs.

[@jkirtchura8577]

👍

[@willzer6915]

Great vid dude, you're the only 40k YT creator that has covered this, that i have seen anyway. Hopefully, G-man and The Lion will bring order back to the imperium.

[@Randobar]

Is there any Source with a complete timeline of the 40K Universe? to bring everything into perspective and get a feeling for the flow. Or do you think GW leaves it blurry at purpose to give everyone room to play out whatever they want?

[@cdickenson82]

You would think that the High Lords of the imperium would be a ok with all of new primaris going with Guilliman to Nihlus. I mean they are absolutely going to obey the Primarchs first so the farther away the safer. It's even likely that Guilliman left them for the sole reason of keeping the High Lords in check.

[@akumaking1]

When will Bobby G and Grandpa Lion finally meet?

[@rogerbrownreacts8528]

Expect a another Primarch to meet either first.

[@josephweymon8020]

Enter, "THE RUSS!" 🌌🐺

[@miles2378]

Does E'ljohnson control where and when he moves "forest walk" between worlds?

[@petitnormand1066]

I haven't read the book but looking at the explanations I have the impression that it's a sort of flashback. We know that Baal was liberated in the current timeline. Although the war began shortly after the Great Rift opened, we know in the book that time evolved differently in real space and that it had been several decades. We know that from the crusade start to its ultramar territory it took approximately 12 years At the end of Godblight, we know that Guillimane wanted to cross the big rift. as the chapter world of the BA has not yet been liberated, this therefore means that Guillimane had not yet passed the rift. So I think it was quite a while between the end of the last novel about the plague wars and the devastation of Baal, so Primark had already been through the rift for quite a while it's just that this part had not been developed so Genefather is a flashback that it takes place between the end of the plague wars and Baal in between

[@Niteshiftmonkey]

Honestly I think the only way for this to work is for Gulliman to rely Lionell to Deep Strike by Forest Walking. I just think the war they have to fight is so great they don’t have time to Butt heads. Lionell will travel across the Imperium Galvanizing forces and Gilliman will have to retool and figure out logistics and what Belizarius is up to to retrofit new Astartes.

[@tristenroberts8249]

I feel like this is a lore filler. Which is good. We all love the lore. We already know what happens in the future. Dante becomes regent 2.0. Guilliman heads backs to Sanctus. Q-voe turns Mephiston into a primaris. Dante meets the Lion. Then Arcs of omen plot line. So you could be right. Lore filler to build up to something big.

[@dubiousjester475]

Is he not going to deal with the bugs. I’m looking forward to seeing the reunion with the Lion

[@derrickcham9747]

are there any novels that cover roboute crossing the rift? black library doesn't have a good chronology on their site

[@petitnormand1066]

Nah. The only book a bout RG in Nihilus is Dévastation of Baal. But nothing about the cross

[@PR0F3SR_X]

Wait so is this pre or post Indomitus? It’s pre right?

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

It's still funny that Gilligan is putting all these resources into the primarous marines instead of the hammer of the Emperor who do 99% of the fighting and win most of the wars imagine a lasgun with slightly more armor pen or am auto loader for imperial tanks cheaper armored etc

[@Wigalot]

If Cawl won't be able to reinforce Guilliman it begs the question who will instead?

[@nastynatethe3rd]

Wait then is this before or after the devastation of Baal and him appointing Dante as regent of Nihilus?

[@Jawmax]

I do hope that in private the brother will give each other a big ol transhuman bro hug.

[@wellhungindung]

Is that that Rogue Trader who had a crush on a Magus?

[@orcvsivstitia7608]

If I was a Primarch. I would sink tremendous amount resources. Into discovering away for primaris space marines to procreate naturally.

[@TenPtJackalope]

Emperor’s Spears could use a hand.

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

Guilliman should invade the palace of slaanesh and get his gf that sword so they can bring back the emperor. I mean they used some of that heretic space elf magic to bring back gman himself I don't see why they wouldn't want to see that through.

[@felipebcb1983]

The Novels and the codex/campaign books are not in the same date. The Novels are some years behind.

[@Battlenude]

Gimmi more books damnit!!

[@panos617]

ALL HAIL GUILLIMAN!!!! THE NEW EMPEROR OF MANKIND!!!

[@cbrando190]

The inquisition enters the chat.

[@panos617]

@@cbrando190 The Emperor said it himself. He isn't God. I excepted it. After Guilliman became Emperor the three things he should do first is to order the purges of the Inquisition, the Adeptus Mechanicus and the High Lords of Terra.

[@theanathema3062]

Wow, let’s not get hasty. I may be a corpse on a throne, but I’m only HALF-dead

[@velenvskaelhas]

Heresy!

[@panos617]

@@velenvskaelhas It is not! Heresy is when you call the Emperor "God". He said it by himself, He wasn't.

[@ScottAT]

Robot Goldilocks is definitely the best primarch.

[@EderReis]

Not even a single mention to Dante?? What have you done my boy Wolflord

[@mr.greenthumb8446]

Wait, doesnt Bellasarius have displacement/ mass transportation tech?!

[@MrGrim2u1987]

I'm pretty sure u are right.

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

Rowboat and the Lion will, eventually, meet up. They won't get along. "Infuriating Roboute", and all that. It will look bad, maybe another civil war. Then, Vulkan will come back, and everyone will hug it out.

[@matteocdt5214]

isn't this just the indomitus crusade?

[@markcoroneos7811]

So what happened to vigilus?

[@yoshimitsuzk]

Quick somebody make a meme with Dante Gilliam in and the lion at McDonald's

[@johnnieschatz693]

Maybe we will get more lore on other chapters and the Lion. That way you can talk about something else than Roboute Guileman 🙄

[@CrimsonGuard1992]

How long before we start calling Guilliman "warmaster"?

[@mitchjames9350]

I think he take the role of the emperors replacement while the Lion will be Warmaster.

[@moonnightbricks3948]

I would say, this has all the makings of Napoleon attacking Russia......

[@tylerlambert8953]

2:00 He obviously just means it is about to occur, you're being way way way to literal

[@TheBestgoku]

wolf rod lo

[@fancypantsmanface2445]

All this talk of worries that Rowboat will recreate a legion but no one cares that the Lion is most certainly not collecting the remnants of a Dark Angel chapter.

[@emirhaneksioglu4503]

Who in the imperium except the inquisition has any idea what the unforgiven are doing and where? Doubt they would even know The Lion had his boys all under his command to complain about it.

[@fancypantsmanface2445]

@@emirhaneksioglu4503 was talking about lore guys but in universe the inquisition are likely shitting themselves sideways at the barest rumour of a returned primarch collecting a "traitor" legion and moving in the galaxy.

[@burnpitcav1519]

It’s about time they catch up with devastation of Baal. I am still really salty that GW allowed their table, top side to ruin another great moment for the storyline to make the stupid over powered plot armor nids relevant for the newest edition. I used to really like the nids. Now they are able to create super monsters whenever they want, and then numbers that make no sense violating all known laws. They used to be cool because they operated as a intelligent swarm. Now they are just like chaos that magically has the right organism to infiltrate whatever obstruction or the correct organism to punch holes through the hardest, known material and the setting. But the thing that makes me the most irritated is that they’ve brought back the hive fleet after thousands of space Marines went toe to toe with leviathan defeating it. Gotta sell those models, idiots.

[@scottjacobsen5894]

I dont blame the imperium for not trusting him. How many stories in 40k involve some picturesque hero/great leader who eother becomes corrupted or os just a shitbag.

[@iamcaesar6741]

You forgot to mention that the event: Devastation of Baal has not happened yet. And so, in the end of the Book: Lion of the Forest when the Lion meets the Blood Angels with the Primaris Marines and Dante tells the Lion that your brother Lord Commander Guilliman saved the Blood Angels from the Tyranid invasion of Baal. Well that’s going to be years into the future after the Book : Gene Father

[@petitnormand1066]

This also fits my theory. I thought that between the plague wars and the liberation of the Blood Angel's chapter planet many years had passed (since it had already taken 12 years to bring Earth into its kingdom). in fact the liberation of Baal took place in our timeline, Baal have been liberated, except that this book (Genefather) talks about an event that happened before liberation .

[@banhammer7243]

A note on timeline issue you seem to have invented. You say that when you are on the "Eve" of something you consider it to be the day before, a rather tragic short sightedness on your behalf. What you have to consider is that the Imperium is like a battleship, very powerful, very large able to achieve mighty goals BUT it takes a lot of time and effort to turn it to the purpose that is required. So claiming that the Imperium is on the Eve of something could be days, months heck even years!

[@vittoanaranto4795]

imagine current story of darktide lore. we suddenly hear of astartes reinforcements. or at least reinforcements at all

[@ayethe4603]

The humans fearing guilaman is stupid he's the most loyal son and the second most caring primacrk when humans are involved I mean him not purging the highland and the church immediately should be a lesson

[@danielboatright8887]

Random thought: An AI installed into a servitor, or several, made from blanks.

[@foottoe3815]

Foot

[@johnnieschatz693]

Horus was a better strategic Primarch

[@Darker1208]

all the story seems cool, but the state of the game is an absolute dumpster fire which really limits player interaction with the actual story of 40K.

[@terrysaunders7107]

Meh, I hate the long way around. Yes, plot and narrative info dumping over a short route is tedious yet still. The back side route around the eye of terror heads up to the Medusa and Caliban sectors. Instead we get to slow boat back to Ultra Mar, maybe another side quest with Tyranids, before he gets ganked by Fulgrim for the next range release. Maybe we get a 2024 box set 2v2 Primarch box set fighting over the latest mc guffin. Awesome 😎 👍. Just in time to declare all remaining first born marine units traitor for rejection of upgrades. 2025?

[@solarchos4352]

He needs to cancel the Nihilus operations and focus exclusively on stopping Leviathan. If the Tyranids aren't stopped, the rest of the galaxy won't matter.

[@OK-hl6qd]

not the unforgiven....................................................the redeemed.

[@CMTechnica]

Nah. They’re still the Unforgiven

[@eiric6958]

Let me guess, now Dante will fight with Guillemen and Lion, almost die, bet get revived again.

[@carlosgarzon8900]

I'm confused is this the first time he crosses tonnihilus? So he have not meet dante rigth?