Woman Kills Lunch Guests with "Store-Bought" Poisonous Mushrooms | Erin Patterson Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@sgaia
@sgaia 9 ай бұрын
“All Fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once.”: Terry Pratchett
@bthomson
@bthomson 9 ай бұрын
You can say that again!
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull 9 ай бұрын
The death cap fungi is a real party pooper.
@DavianSinner
@DavianSinner 9 ай бұрын
Really, anything is edible once.
@mwituamweene9850
@mwituamweene9850 9 ай бұрын
lol
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull 9 ай бұрын
@@DavianSinner I once ate clown food from a drive through restaurant. It made me feel funny so never went back.
@jenna2431
@jenna2431 9 ай бұрын
What I learned from this: If your lunch host has a different plate of food, push away from the table.
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key 9 ай бұрын
And offer to swap meals, or share your plate with their kids and see how they react. 👀
@tinkerstrade3553
@tinkerstrade3553 9 ай бұрын
It was for these very reason that in times past, people would "braek bread" together . It was euphemistically seen as sharing. But the purpose was to establish mutual trust by verification.
@angec590
@angec590 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 9 ай бұрын
Remember the scene from Princess Bride? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXaVopRva9Wkbqs
@Redspeciality
@Redspeciality 9 ай бұрын
I’ll have what she is having
@betelgeuse1968
@betelgeuse1968 9 ай бұрын
"Simon has indicated he has no intention of reuniting with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to continue living." Hilarious!
@Lena-jx9st
@Lena-jx9st 9 ай бұрын
Dr Grande is hilarious! The way he delivers the lines with such a dead pan expression is hysterical! SO funny!
@wyldroselee6446
@wyldroselee6446 9 ай бұрын
I've watched this guy cover murders quite a few times but never heard him make jokes all the way through. It's incredibly insensitive. Simon's parents and aunty just died a horrible death and his uncle is just hanging on. Who makes jokes about that?? I don't get how so many commenters think this is a good comedy sketch. It's horrible!
@Gigiwalters
@Gigiwalters 9 ай бұрын
She made a new meal at left the others to die. Because she wanted to get back with her ex but she previously made a meal and he almost died from fungi. She needs to be stopped
@wyldroselee6446
@wyldroselee6446 9 ай бұрын
@@Gigiwalters sounds like you know more than the doctors who examined and tested him for weeks in the hospital. This is called MISINFORMATION.
@rosieHolliday5887
@rosieHolliday5887 9 ай бұрын
I literally LOL'D at that
@Dargyful
@Dargyful 9 ай бұрын
Her ex husband was admitted to hospital last year and almost died from food poisoning. Too many ‘coincidences ‘ in this story
@opallunar
@opallunar 9 ай бұрын
And both her parents died mysteriously in 2019. She benefited financially from that... sus
@jennibarnes140
@jennibarnes140 9 ай бұрын
​@opallunar8824 omg and they went to lunch at hers? A disgruntled daughter in law, and grand kids were mysteriously sent to movies 🎬 😮
@wyldroselee6446
@wyldroselee6446 9 ай бұрын
But he had 3 surgeries. You don't have surgery for food poisoning.
@GeeeAus
@GeeeAus 9 ай бұрын
@@wyldroselee6446 You do if the toxin that you and just without knowing it has caused physical damage to your gut.
@zanzah_
@zanzah_ 9 ай бұрын
​@wyldroselee6446 lllooolll organs rupture and tear and yes surgery is required. Erin is Autistic af!
@jazzymoni7750
@jazzymoni7750 9 ай бұрын
I always pass over the "fatal mushrooms" section at the grocery store. I wonder why she grabbed them?
@tumekeehoa3121
@tumekeehoa3121 9 ай бұрын
She needed to find a substitute for the sold out lethal mushrooms.
@HLB313
@HLB313 9 ай бұрын
Maybe they were discounted
@zoer7338
@zoer7338 9 ай бұрын
You guys are *funny*! 😅
@donnaevans3062
@donnaevans3062 9 ай бұрын
That fatal part is a deal breaker for me too!!!!
@venderstrat
@venderstrat 9 ай бұрын
Could they have been marked 'reduced'?
@gabbyyyyy5452
@gabbyyyyy5452 9 ай бұрын
She didn’t even taste the food she was cooking ? Who serves a meal at a dinner party they themselves wouldn’t eat? guilty
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter 9 ай бұрын
I cook meat very well (and have taken meat science classes in university, from raising the livestock all the way to serving it), and I'm a vegetarian with vegan inclinations. I cook it for family events when requested a couple times a year. When I started, my very carnivorous best friend (now fiancée) would taste test it for me and clean up the leavings with my dogs. I'm at the point where taste testing is no longer required, since the results are consistent. If I change anything, it's because I'm following personal feedback, a suggestion, or a new and improved method that is backed up by biology and the science of processing skeletal muscle for consumption. I'm not defending her. I'm just saying.
@annazaman9657
@annazaman9657 9 ай бұрын
Great question. As a cook I taste everything I make. Otherwise how would you know if it tastes good.
@ieattofu68
@ieattofu68 9 ай бұрын
It's all so obvious...
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 9 ай бұрын
@@Nylak-Otter You took culinary classes and you're a vegetarian so that alone makes sense why you don't taste test. She's neither so it makes no sense 👎
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter 9 ай бұрын
@@GameChanger597 I was providing an example to answer the question, not a solution to the situation. I also said I wasn't defending her. If I were to get scenario-specific, I might argue that she possibly dislikes beef, but happened to know that it was a family favorite of her ex's. 🤷‍♀️ Without more information, I feel like that would be a bold assumption for me to suggest, though. Who knows what (if anything) was going through her head. 😅 (Also, it wasn't really a culinary class; it was for my animal science degree, since I specialized in domesticated animal behavior and livestock reproduction. I'm a terrible cook except for meat now, much to my disappointment. Although apparently I can cook tofu to taste and feel just like chicken! 🤣)
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 9 ай бұрын
Given the value of the apartment she inherited, probably time to review, rather closely, the deaths of her parents, as well.
@witchysav3464
@witchysav3464 9 ай бұрын
Oh my GOD 👀
@meatman2024
@meatman2024 9 ай бұрын
Daaaamn 🤔
@user-xb8tc3tc8t
@user-xb8tc3tc8t 9 ай бұрын
Guilty, YES, sick, YES. What do you do?
@garysimon7765
@garysimon7765 8 ай бұрын
Good one ! 😮
@danielleelias685
@danielleelias685 8 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking when I heard her parents died and she inherited such a big expensive house.
@sithlordhibiscus9936
@sithlordhibiscus9936 5 ай бұрын
she's being charged with 3 counts of murder and 5 of attempted murder. justice has caught up to her.
@crimegeek
@crimegeek 9 ай бұрын
8:56 mark, “Simon has indicated he has no intention to reunite with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to… continue living.” Smoothest passive aggressive burn 🏆
@BigMacOrange
@BigMacOrange 9 ай бұрын
The fact that she claims she bought them in a store is all the proof i need to know she is a lying liar who is also a murderer. Had she said she picked them herself and it was a horrific accident that would be believable.
@shawnburford4791
@shawnburford4791 9 ай бұрын
True. Good point. 😮
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key 9 ай бұрын
Plus, she would have eaten some herself, because if that's how it happened, she wouldn't have guessed there would be a problem eating them.
@TheBlackDeath3
@TheBlackDeath3 9 ай бұрын
Eh, not necessarily. It's not difficult to imagine somebody who's made such a grave mistake trying to cast blame elsewhere for one reason or another. Not proof of intent.
@stevecharman8420
@stevecharman8420 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBlackDeath3 It might make sense to try to shift the blame on to somebody else but to blame a store is the height of stupidity because such a thing is so easy to check.
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBlackDeath3 It's excruciatingly obvious she intentionally murdered them and the fact the cops can't put 2 and 2 together is astounding not to mention incredibly dense 🤦🏽‍♀️
@markalvarado3265
@markalvarado3265 9 ай бұрын
GUILTY! Erin wanted to take out the family of the husband and him too probably. Separate meal for her and her kids?! Bought the bad mushrooms at the store?! You've got to be kidding me!!! A real sicko.
@redfred452
@redfred452 9 ай бұрын
she is guilty as sin it's self, she lied about eating the mushrooms, at the hospital they knew she was not poisoned or showed no signs of being poisoned so they sent her home and gave her some pills for her liver to allay her fake fears, she will go down for this i hope !!!
@freespirit1411
@freespirit1411 9 ай бұрын
Is this guy serious? Quote "Everyone knows supermarkets mark the mushrooms fatal & not fatal" 😳 Who would buy the fatal ones? Why would they be selling them? Ridiculous statement 😆
@frankg882
@frankg882 9 ай бұрын
​@@freespirit1411 jokes bro, it was a joke
@AnneAlready
@AnneAlready 9 ай бұрын
@@freespirit1411 LOL, you missed the dry/ironic humor there. :P
@philanders3705
@philanders3705 9 ай бұрын
​@@freespirit1411it took a bit for me to pick up on his sense of humor. At first I was thinking who is this monotone weirdo, but soon realized he's actually quite funny. Driest humor on the internet...
@rozzyosbourne1057
@rozzyosbourne1057 9 ай бұрын
She killed them on purpose. She avoided the food and so did her kids. CRYing with NO TEARS. Guilty AF!!!!!😮 👩‍⚖️
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 9 ай бұрын
It's too bad that's not a verdict a jury can come back with. Judge: "Has the jury reached a verdict?" Jury spokesman: "We have, Your Honor." Judge: "And what is your verdict?" Jury spokesman: "Guilty AF, Your Honor."
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 9 ай бұрын
“Not guilty but extremely sus, your honor.” And if you’re deemed “sus” by your peers then double jeopardy is thrown out the window and could face another trial. lol.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 9 ай бұрын
@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Your way would actually be a great improvement! Not Guilty: B.E.S. Yes, that should be real.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 9 ай бұрын
@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Maybe you'd get like 5 years of guaranteed freedom to try to find the "real killer."
@Lea_1113
@Lea_1113 7 ай бұрын
She actually claimed to have eaten the meal and gone to hospital herself. Her kids apparently don't like mushrooms so she picked them out. Yeah right but that's her claim
@mattosborne1366
@mattosborne1366 9 ай бұрын
It's always weird when people "sob" and "cry" but there's no actual tears.
@silentnight9655
@silentnight9655 9 ай бұрын
Loll.
@johncollins3391
@johncollins3391 9 ай бұрын
Yes i noticed that.
@rachaelh9193
@rachaelh9193 9 ай бұрын
That’s the first time i thought she was guilty
@MR-gl9xu
@MR-gl9xu 9 ай бұрын
Plus she wiped away the nonexistent tears!!! 🤔
@MattExzy
@MattExzy 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that picked up on her sus body language. She kept looking at her fingers after she 'wiped' her eyes to accentuate that they were really tears, when they weren't. High blink rate as well, consistent with hiding true feelings. Then when she walked off, all of her emotion instantly melted away. Something is way off.
@katnip8228
@katnip8228 9 ай бұрын
Simon refuses to reunite with Erin, because he has a strong desire to continue living. The delivery of that statement was so dead-pan, but had perfect impact!
@DianneRussell-jb5le
@DianneRussell-jb5le 9 ай бұрын
She reminds me of Kathy Bates character in Misery. Here is a question ? How did the parents die. It seems unusual they are both dead. Erin is only in her 40s. Detectives need to go right into her past. Hey Hollywood, this would make a block buster of a movie.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 9 ай бұрын
Which means her parents were likely in their 60s or older. Things like heart problems, diabetes, and cancer can all start in the 50s and even younger. Before modern medicine, a lot of people died at a younger age. Modern medicine can't make everybody live longer.
@giftofthewild6665
@giftofthewild6665 8 ай бұрын
​@EXROBOWIDOW yeah if her parents were unhealthy they could have died in their 60s or 70s
@johnpixton5626
@johnpixton5626 9 ай бұрын
How this woman is not in prison is beyond me.
@bradnov89
@bradnov89 6 ай бұрын
She is now. She has been charged with 3 counts of murder amongst a string of other charges
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 9 ай бұрын
I think it's awesome that supermarkets clearly label foods as fatal or non-fatal! It takes the guesswork out of it.
@TutuFerret
@TutuFerret 9 ай бұрын
Mine usually labels them by type and I've never seen "death cap" in amongst the buttons & shiitake. In my experience they tend not to stock death caps, probably because they don't get a lot of repeat sales.
@deborl7278
@deborl7278 9 ай бұрын
​@@TutuFerretwhy would a grocery store even have poisonous mushrooms for sale ?
@madeleineprice3556
@madeleineprice3556 9 ай бұрын
@@deborl7278I am sure there’s some sort of sarcasm in the original post, but besides that, why would a store that sells food also sell a potentially poisonous edible substance?
@terryrobinson4197
@terryrobinson4197 9 ай бұрын
i switch the labels just to mess with people
@madeleineprice3556
@madeleineprice3556 9 ай бұрын
@@terryrobinson4197it’s the only way to ensure the fittest survive
@thatdudebro
@thatdudebro 9 ай бұрын
Todds sense of humor slaps. it comes out of nowhere without even a slight change of his very serious tone. sometimes u have to wonder if he actually just said it.
@DannyWJaco
@DannyWJaco 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Perfect delivery and succinct timing.
@francinejones2524
@francinejones2524 9 ай бұрын
No he’s got a very dry sense of humour clearly.
@itsbonkerjojo9028
@itsbonkerjojo9028 9 ай бұрын
​@@DannyWJacowhat part r we talking abt ? Time pls i think i missed it as I wasn't giving proper attention
@itsbonkerjojo9028
@itsbonkerjojo9028 9 ай бұрын
​@@DannyWJaco oh i think i got it A melancholic love part at last at last isn't it when he summarize the case 😂
@itsbonkerjojo9028
@itsbonkerjojo9028 9 ай бұрын
​@@francinejones2524who hurt u 🤕
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 9 ай бұрын
We are all still looking for other people affected by these 'store purchased' deadly mushrooms. Incredible that Erin was so unlucky in what she grabbed. She also cries without any tears, and maybe that's more disturbing.
@hoolydooly5799
@hoolydooly5799 9 ай бұрын
Rubbish. She is exhausted. A lot of gossip not facts. How about letting the police finish their work. As police said the media should not to ask townies for opinions.
@Aus200
@Aus200 9 ай бұрын
​@@hoolydooly5799she sounds like a big idiot. Even if it was an accident, she still needs to be locked up for a long time.
@desireesalas5820
@desireesalas5820 9 ай бұрын
According to one of the Daily Mail articles I had read, she had a portion of them saved in the fridge and another portion had been foraged by her.
@RamsTheNameCom
@RamsTheNameCom 9 ай бұрын
Well that was a surprising "blast from the past"... I remember watching some of your youtube channel content back around 2011. I believe a bot under your name "Friend Me" on youtube and that's how I became aware of your content. But yeah, she clearly didn't buy from the store. Likely either an amateur mushroom hunter or someone who intentionally wanted to kill her ex husband and his parents.
@kstephenson9465
@kstephenson9465 9 ай бұрын
Correct! Besides no one cooks a western dish like Beef Wellington with “Asian mushrooms” think she’s telling a porky 🙄
@Mrs-Resell
@Mrs-Resell 9 ай бұрын
Dr Grande - just to inform you that this incident occurred in the winter of 2023 here in Australia not the summer as you stated at the beginning of your video. Our winters here are June, July and August. Thank you for your very interesting videos.
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 9 ай бұрын
Literally the hottest months in the southeast region of the U.S. lol
@Drak976
@Drak976 8 ай бұрын
Oi crikey you're living in the upside down on the counterweight continent. I'd ask if yee evah seen no monstahs then I remember it's Australia and that's called going outside innit? I guess you got some of them funny time birds and I don't mean the giant ones that try and eat yah.
@elb2698
@elb2698 8 ай бұрын
This is the first I heard the kids were there. I heard they went to the movies and Erin did eat some of the wellington according to her.
@kevinl7426
@kevinl7426 9 ай бұрын
I'm an experienced forager. I have looked all over the the "fatal" mushroom section in the store and this mushroom is not sold commercially. This mushroom only looks edible if you are very poor at identification. No, you don't have to look far to find it. Amatoxin poisoning is a horrible, painful way to go as the cause of death is organ failure. She had to search to find these. Guilty!
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 9 ай бұрын
The husband was previously in a coma for 16 days after injesting poison and had major surgery on his intestines.
@jasonphillips5816
@jasonphillips5816 9 ай бұрын
Which do you think they are? Death cap can normally be identified by an ammonia smell, but are supposed to taste ok when cooked so probably wouldn't be noticed by the person eating them, Destroying Angel, Webcap Fools Conecap etc aren't supposed to taste nice, I'm in the UK so Australia has species i'm not familiar with.
@annak8755
@annak8755 9 ай бұрын
I've had food poisoning from mushrooms because they either weren't correctly prepared/ in sanitary conditions or were not correctly refrigerated. However, I am sure store bought mushrooms are all edible, because they are grown by farmers. No reasonable business person would prefer walking for hours in the forest foraging to growing your own in conditions you can control, meaning that nobody would even think about growing inedible ones.
@EChan-eu2co
@EChan-eu2co 9 ай бұрын
@@annak8755 unless it came from a careless farmer. I looked up mushroom growing once and you're supposed to check that no poisonous ones grew in like weeds. Death caps though grow under trees and have a symbiotic relationship with those trees so probably not them.
@cathybannister4149
@cathybannister4149 9 ай бұрын
​@@jasonphillips5816Deathcaps are distinguished from field mushrooms in Australia by having cream gills and thinner stems but look identical from the top. Both field and deathcap grow in our backyard and in rural Victoria would be very common.
@natalieturko4808
@natalieturko4808 9 ай бұрын
The fact that she refused to answer key questions such as where the mushrooms came from, and why she and her children ate a different meal, is highly suspicious.
@hrhtreeoflife4815
@hrhtreeoflife4815 9 ай бұрын
Kids eat simple meals that's why.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie 9 ай бұрын
@@hrhtreeoflife4815 It's weird that NONE of them ate any of what the guests ate. And it was actually beef wellington pie. Don't most kids love pie. The mother is 48 too so I'd doubt the children are fussy little toddlers.
@ange4048
@ange4048 9 ай бұрын
You realize she doesn’t have to answer questions. She has the same rights as everyone else.
@pierreblenderbuss9807
@pierreblenderbuss9807 9 ай бұрын
It's a pile on. Worth waiting a bit for facts to come out. We'll see what the investigations yield.
@siewheilou399
@siewheilou399 9 ай бұрын
​@@hrhtreeoflife4815 Children have allergies?
@nicholesmith2089
@nicholesmith2089 9 ай бұрын
I think she wanted all of them dead and only said she wanted to get back together to throw people off, including the victims. And thinking that her exact excuse would be "why would I do that, I called the meeting to get back together!" Imagine being so determined to kill someone that the whole time you are dehydrating the mushrooms and then preparing a meal you don't stop and say "what the hell am I doing?!?!" How do some people live with themselves?
@shhhhhhh9328
@shhhhhhh9328 9 ай бұрын
I know! Not a spur of the moment thing, those dehydrators take hours! And she has kids. Kids for whom she prepares meals every day. I hope somebody in the extended family can be their guardians and give them a normal-ish life while their mum spends the next 10-20 years in prison or a criminal psych facility.
@AveragePotatoWithDreams
@AveragePotatoWithDreams 9 ай бұрын
Very easily 🤣
@mandymckeown8625
@mandymckeown8625 7 ай бұрын
She has no empathy they were just in her way unfortunately
@TheLauren1113
@TheLauren1113 9 ай бұрын
I think there are a lot of coincidences here that strongly suggest she intended to prepare a killer meal. Had it been accidental she would have eaten them herself. Less suspicious that her children didn’t eat them, as children can be picky eaters, but highly suspicious she’d prepare a lunch that she herself did not intend to eat.
@salliegallegos918
@salliegallegos918 9 ай бұрын
It’s not a coincidence. Intentional poisoning is more common than anyone knows. No one believes the victims, if they survive.
@tonyquinlan7341
@tonyquinlan7341 9 ай бұрын
Maybe she doesn't like poison mushrooms.😅😅😅😅
@smith549371
@smith549371 9 ай бұрын
How olds the children?
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 9 ай бұрын
It might make sense to cook separate meals if, say, some guests are vegetarian or have certain allergies. Or it might make sense to serve two things at home when, say, there's only one hamburger left, so only one person can get that and the rest have to eat something else. You might also create several options for guests to choose from, which is considerate in a way. But it's VERY weird to randomly serve some people one batch of food and other people a completely separate dish -- this would only sow disunity and be twice the work!
@glenncordova4027
@glenncordova4027 8 ай бұрын
What cook doesn't taste their own cooking? Every time I cook a meal, I taste it even if I am cooking it for someone else.
@macman1469
@macman1469 9 ай бұрын
She disposed of her food dehydrater at the local tip ,after the poisoning. Cops found it . Her ex believes he may have been poisoned in the past .
@TheScratchingKiwi
@TheScratchingKiwi 9 ай бұрын
An ex is generally not the best source of facts if they have no proof.
@alexeysamokhin9629
@alexeysamokhin9629 9 ай бұрын
@@TheScratchingKiwi he was for three weeks in intensive care in a critical condition in hospital, what other proofs do you need???
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheScratchingKiwi they were in hospital for 3 weeks champ
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 9 ай бұрын
What's a tip?
@kg6801
@kg6801 9 ай бұрын
​@@annebruecks7381Garbage dump
@JugglingG
@JugglingG 9 ай бұрын
The idea of a meal with parents-in-law to reconcile a relationship is so so odd! It almost reminds me of a plot from Poirot or Columbo
@tinasmith7630
@tinasmith7630 9 ай бұрын
Murder CD hav been on da menu, dats y.
@louisewright8769
@louisewright8769 9 ай бұрын
she probably loves Agatha Christie books . she might get manslaughter . also the house was worth one million would the husband get half ?
@patriciafisher1170
@patriciafisher1170 9 ай бұрын
Bit odd
@thomasrussell4674
@thomasrussell4674 9 ай бұрын
Or curb your enthusiasm
@bloochoob
@bloochoob 9 ай бұрын
‘just one more mushroom…’ ☠️
@Dargyful
@Dargyful 9 ай бұрын
She now changed her story a couple of hours ago saying she did eat it and did get sick but was given liver protective medication. No proof of that… Also she immediately threw out the dehydrator she used with the mushrooms straight after cooking the meal . Guilty
@kendradamm1428
@kendradamm1428 9 ай бұрын
I can confirm our local grocery store clearly labels the fatal mushrooms 😵🥰😝
@kitwren1797
@kitwren1797 9 ай бұрын
The fact that she refuses to tell where she bought them is suspicious.
@michaeltuffin5002
@michaeltuffin5002 9 ай бұрын
They found a dehydrator at the local tip
@valhipkiss4011
@valhipkiss4011 9 ай бұрын
Come , it’s bull S , they were pick in the wild for god sake 😅😅😅😅
@katbar6066
@katbar6066 9 ай бұрын
I think you mean food dehydrators and I believe 3 were found but one was dumped after the event..@@michaeltuffin5002
@Ultradude604
@Ultradude604 9 ай бұрын
The Poison Shrooms Depot. She thought only healthy mushrooms are sold there.
@xonx209
@xonx209 9 ай бұрын
If bought from a store there would be news of other people getting poisoned
@jeffm3925
@jeffm3925 9 ай бұрын
Dr. Grande, your emotionless but yet still somehow menacing stare and talcum-dry sense of humor are nightmare fuel. Keep it coming.
@geraldinenolan6312
@geraldinenolan6312 9 ай бұрын
Talcum dry! 😂
@AnastasiaFafo
@AnastasiaFafo 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 9 ай бұрын
word
@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life
@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life 9 ай бұрын
What a description! You should be a writer!
@user-rl6wr2ny7f
@user-rl6wr2ny7f 9 ай бұрын
It makes a brit weep with joy.
@jlkitz1775
@jlkitz1775 9 ай бұрын
Crying without tears 🤨...She knew exactly what she was doing! Oh my gosh, this lady is SO busted 😅
@lilahngahere4274
@lilahngahere4274 9 ай бұрын
Death Cap mushrooms are mycorrhizal, growing symbiotically with the roots of oak trees. They typically sprout underneath the edge of the oak canopy. Due to a large root systems Death Caps can be found aways from the trunk. The cap has a yellow to greenish sheen that can vary to olive or brown hue. Gills and spores are white, small bulbous cup at the base and remnants of a skirt on the stipe. Other mushrooms may have similar coloring but none grow symbiotically with oak. All commercial growers would easily be able to spot the Death Cap and I bet youd be hard pressed to find an example. There is now an antidote called Silibinin an extract of milk thistle seeds, along with gastric decontamination. A deadly dose is 0.1 milligrams for every kilo of weight. With all this info and what appeared to be fake crying, makes her look like she is lying. Excuse the rant 👍🤙👌✌️🕊
@Drak976
@Drak976 8 ай бұрын
I liked every word of it people need to be more careful about what we put in our face. Some people don't have our best interests at heart.
@lilahngahere4274
@lilahngahere4274 8 ай бұрын
@Drak976 She has been classed as an expert forager, I think that will be her downfall. Yes there are some sad people. Hope you have an awesome day 👋 😀 😊
@maryhayes3177
@maryhayes3177 8 ай бұрын
Very informative, thank you for explaining
@lilahngahere4274
@lilahngahere4274 8 ай бұрын
@maryhayes3177 Thankyou 😊 Mushrooms are such a valuable source of food and medicine. What she did was wicked and she was able to mask it by dehydrating it. I am so sad for her children and all those close to them. I hope you have a wonderful day 💗 I actually never expected anyone to reply.
@naturalroyalflush
@naturalroyalflush 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for that information.
@loribomkamp1340
@loribomkamp1340 9 ай бұрын
This is why "you can't eat at everybody's house".
@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life
@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life 9 ай бұрын
They say that about doo doo noodles (chitlings) hidden in dishes.😮😂
@user-yb2tt7vt4b
@user-yb2tt7vt4b 9 ай бұрын
is that a saying? I've never heard this before...
@ToyInsanity
@ToyInsanity 9 ай бұрын
I ate at Grande's house. It was some bland chicken and veg from Hello Fresh. We speculated over a few situations and his wife was very kind.
@loribomkamp1340
@loribomkamp1340 9 ай бұрын
@@user-yb2tt7vt4b Yes it's a trending song on TikTok. And the background music to many many hysterical videos.
@nicole757
@nicole757 9 ай бұрын
@@user-yb2tt7vt4bit’s usually reserved for someone that owns a dog/cat or doesn’t autoclave and hazmat suit up before cooking a simple meal for guests
@Patrick-il4es
@Patrick-il4es 9 ай бұрын
(1) She claims she bought the mushrooms at a local store, but no one else in the community that shopped there experienced any poisoning. (2) Her guests ate the mushrooms, but she and her children ate a separate meal. (3) There is reason to suggest she may have poisoned her former husband, but he survived. (4) There is evidence that she studied poisonous mushroom information prior to the poisoning of her guests. Yep, she's innocent ! ! ! ! ! !
@andyjcoop
@andyjcoop 9 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty, let's be careful now.
@cazyaz523
@cazyaz523 9 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty - I agree but the inference here is overwhelming.
@aimeem8156
@aimeem8156 9 ай бұрын
No it’s not looking good for this woman.
@mindeyethemasterscreen2712
@mindeyethemasterscreen2712 9 ай бұрын
She also threw out the cooking device she cooked the meal with the next day AND she also hated the step mother cussing her in public.
@Gothymothmoth
@Gothymothmoth 9 ай бұрын
yeah she didn't eat,taste or awhat not with the food and got rid of what she used to make it@@mindeyethemasterscreen2712
@debbiegrimison6705
@debbiegrimison6705 9 ай бұрын
I'm from Aust. Erin said she purchased the mushrooms from a shop in Melbourne. But she can't recall what shop or even what suburb the shop was in. She said she gave her children the left over Beef Wellington the next day, but scraped off the mushrooms, as the kids didn't like them. But she cudn't have scraped off the poisonous juices, I don't believe that one for a minute. Also it was known that she wanted to keep the house she was living in. I looked very very hard at the videos of her "crying" & could not see a single tear, nor red eyes. I have trouble speaking when crying from grief, but she easily spoke quite well while she was "crying". Everyone in Aust thinks she's guilty, I think because her body language & her "grief" face are off. It's off because it's not real. I laughed out loud several times during your excellent analysis. 😅 The deaths of those poor people was an extremely cowardly despicable act. They died horribly.
@marlinfisher2529
@marlinfisher2529 9 ай бұрын
Dear Dr Grande, when I was studying natural medicine my teacher of herbal medicine knew someone who was an expert in mushroom collection - he died from collecting, cooking up and eating poisonous mushrooms. Mushroom collection is apparently quite tricky.
@jacquelinejacobson6789
@jacquelinejacobson6789 9 ай бұрын
Death Angel mushrooms. Curiously, most homicides by poisoning are done by women. The fact that she and her children avoided the "laced" dish speaks of homicidal intent.
@ToyInsanity
@ToyInsanity 9 ай бұрын
But mummy, why can't I have the beef welly, you know I love beef welly!
@sjjoker4724
@sjjoker4724 9 ай бұрын
But also… some people don’t like mushrooms, like truly hate them. I still cook things I don’t like all the time for friends and family bc I love cooking but I won’t eat that dish and eat the rest.
@TwistedSister1234
@TwistedSister1234 9 ай бұрын
But she would have gotten caught too easily if she had done it on purpose. So I don’t think she meant to kill them . But I do think that she likely meant to make them sick (Munchausen’s bi-proxy). Her husband got critically ill while with her in April 2022. Maybe she enjoyed the drama, liked attending to him and feeling needed by him.
@Winter-Lake
@Winter-Lake 9 ай бұрын
It does seem rather convenient that she and her children were the only ones who didn't eat it.
@Adam-kn3tv
@Adam-kn3tv 9 ай бұрын
​@@schoomzerHe says in the video that she prepared separate meals for her children. It's right there in the video.
@vanessacollins9434
@vanessacollins9434 9 ай бұрын
As an Aussie I’m so impressed you said “Melbun” and not “Mel-born”
@xoxsilentrealmxox
@xoxsilentrealmxox 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I think he really worked on it haha
@ericrochester8835
@ericrochester8835 9 ай бұрын
True
@Ross_Embossed
@Ross_Embossed 9 ай бұрын
Yea, that was pleasantly unexpected, even from an American's point of view (p.o.v.,) As pleasantly unexpected as when you hear a French person properly pronounce croissant 😅
@kylie9821
@kylie9821 9 ай бұрын
I came to the comment section to say the same thing.
@zanzah_
@zanzah_ 9 ай бұрын
It's Mel-Bin maaaaaaate 😅
@sallymoritz.9087
@sallymoritz.9087 9 ай бұрын
“The poisonous food section” of the supermarket! LOL! I really enjoy your videos, doctor, and loved the alliteration at the end of this one! Very informative and with your usual humor! Many thanks for posting!
@tracyhaverstick5672
@tracyhaverstick5672 9 ай бұрын
I have poison mushrooms during late summer in my 5 acre yard. They pop up huge right after a heavy rain. We put on rubber gloves and pull them and get rid of them right away. It's amazing how they are nowhere to be seen and then the next day they are there and the size of a cup saucer.
@Mister_Holdsworth
@Mister_Holdsworth 9 ай бұрын
No way that wasn't a purposeful murder. Such a top meal, and she or her kids didn't eat it ? No doubt it was murder.
@quink2376
@quink2376 9 ай бұрын
Is she vegetarian?
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 9 ай бұрын
@@quink2376Are mushrooms meat?
@Cocoandindy
@Cocoandindy 9 ай бұрын
I actually thought there was a fly on my screen & tried to swat it away 😊
@livingthedream8539
@livingthedream8539 9 ай бұрын
@@MasterMalrubius was beef wellington
@quink2376
@quink2376 9 ай бұрын
@@MasterMalrubius she cooked beef Wellington, which has mushrooms. I'd say if she is vegetarian and her kids probably don't eat mushrooms may be why they didn't eat the same meal.
@darcie5742
@darcie5742 9 ай бұрын
Her husband was in a coma 12 months ago with similar symptoms. She must have bought store bought mushrooms back then too. Interestingly when she told the police she bought them from the shop they didnt do a recall on the mushrooms so it sounds like the police dont believe her
@katbar6066
@katbar6066 9 ай бұрын
in fact I believe both Supermarkets put out an announcement saying they are not doing a recall and no one is at risk.
@annedavis3340
@annedavis3340 9 ай бұрын
One of my favorite places to forage for mushrooms is in grocery stores. Not everyone thinks to look there. I still suck at telling which of the mushrooms in the store are poisonous. I know it's incredibly amateurish of me to wish it was easier to know if all the mushrooms I buy are edible. Maybe they can have starter supermarkets for entry-level foragers like me that only sell the edible ones. They'd make a killing. Also no idea why they won't let me bring my new truffle-trained hog. I spent all that money getting him then transporting him all the way from Italy and they dont let me bring him into the store. So unfair
@giftofthewild6665
@giftofthewild6665 8 ай бұрын
Get a truffle hunting dog instead, you can put a vest on him and call him a service dog. Bonus: they won't try to eat the truffles they find. They're better than pigs.
@patriciafisher1170
@patriciafisher1170 9 ай бұрын
I live in a country area of Australia. Never have I seen poisonis mushrooms for sale. The supermarket where she bought the normal mushrooms would have digital info of what she bought. She told police that she bought other mushrooms at a Chinese supermarket but could not recall where this shop was or when she did it. The dehydrator that she used was thrown away at the town tip and police were looking for it. So as far as I can see she foraged for the deadly nightcap mushrooms in her area and dehydrated them. Hence the reason she got rid of it. Probably in the suitcase she carried from her house. In one of her houses a painter who was employed to paint the house came forward to the police and showed them pictures he took of a wall where she had written all these weird things One of the things were death to her parents in law. She told the painter that the kids did it but he said kids would not write things like that. He felt really uncomfortable when he found the wall. She’s guilty and kids should be removed from her before she kills them
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 8 ай бұрын
Only special stores sell produce such as toxic mushrooms and poisoned apples. You have to be a certified member of a witches coven to even learn if such places. It's all covered during the apprenticeship.
@Gramercy_Stiffs
@Gramercy_Stiffs 6 ай бұрын
She said they were dried mushrooms from an Asian supermarket.
@mattwhite87
@mattwhite87 9 ай бұрын
I love not only that Dr Grande covers Australian stories, but also that he pronounces ‘Melbourne’ correctly!
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 9 ай бұрын
Yes noticed that!
@valhipkiss4011
@valhipkiss4011 9 ай бұрын
But he’s NOT actually getting all of the story correct .
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever 9 ай бұрын
No one care about the content. We just came to see him slip out of his fake US accent.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 9 ай бұрын
@@BoogieBoogsForever fake? What are you on about?
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 9 ай бұрын
@@valhipkiss4011 so what did he get wrong?
@skybluedreams77
@skybluedreams77 9 ай бұрын
The whole incident is very suspicious from the moment she cooked and served a different meal for her and her children. 😮😢
@bthomson
@bthomson 9 ай бұрын
Yes! And why a lunch anyway? Was this a normal thing with these people?
@lilithowl
@lilithowl 9 ай бұрын
​@@bthomsonWhat do you mean why a lunch? People often get together for meals. I don't know where you live, but weekend lunches are a common form of social get together in Australia.
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key 9 ай бұрын
​@@bthomson don't forget they were her kid's grandparents. So getting together for a meal is normal.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie 9 ай бұрын
@@bthomson Is lunch not a normal thing where you're from?
@amattes1960
@amattes1960 9 ай бұрын
Some kids won't eat stews, especially neurodiverse kids. It's not that uncommon to give them chicken nuggets while the grown ups eat something else. The fact that Erin ate a different meal is more suspicious.
@nouseforanamelucky13
@nouseforanamelucky13 9 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've come across this channel.. this guy's dry humor and sarcasm remind me of Matt Walsh.. 😂 I love this guy! Subscribed!
@alexr.3504
@alexr.3504 9 ай бұрын
Dr Grande, your alliteration and humor in this video made my day!
@veracious99
@veracious99 9 ай бұрын
To say she's a person of interest is the understatement of the year...
@alexeysamokhin9629
@alexeysamokhin9629 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the Police is interested in her cooking skills?
@wendydressler3917
@wendydressler3917 9 ай бұрын
@@alexeysamokhin9629☠️😂
@Joelswinger34
@Joelswinger34 9 ай бұрын
Probably the only time in her life she was ever interesting!
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 9 ай бұрын
Women always protected. Hierarchy is rich, then women, then men. Domestic violence laws all directed at men about putting crappy women as head of the house who are loyal to government authority. Father has to co ply or else she lies to the cops and u never see ur kids again. Society is sick. Single mother raised worst situation for a kid, they know this yet father's rarely get full custody over some loonie woman unless she's on crack. Even then they get custody.
@melinaesposito3434
@melinaesposito3434 9 ай бұрын
She released a statement today, changing her story: - she bought the mushrooms from an Asian grocery - she also ate the pie and went to the hospital and was given a 'liver conserving drug' She's digging a nice big hole for herself and deserves to go to prison for a long time.
@beekind5704
@beekind5704 9 ай бұрын
I believe there also needs to be an investigation into Erin’s parents deaths in 2019, unless they were in a fatal accident both parents dying in the same year is unusual.
@lindaaitken7679
@lindaaitken7679 9 ай бұрын
And they left her a shed load of money I believe
@GigiG-be4xu
@GigiG-be4xu 9 ай бұрын
🤤🤤🤤...
@dirkrose1565
@dirkrose1565 9 ай бұрын
You have a point. But then again, it's not that unsual, especially among elderly couples, if the woman is the first one to die.
@GigiG-be4xu
@GigiG-be4xu 9 ай бұрын
@@dirkrose1565 😐😑
@MG-ot2yr
@MG-ot2yr 9 ай бұрын
Good point, inheriting a $1M home is motive, plus I'm sure they had cash, savings and other assets.
@rogersimpson9725
@rogersimpson9725 9 ай бұрын
I lived in a foster home when I was a kid. My foster mother picked mushrooms in the pasture and served them for lunch almost every day in the summer. It took me awhile but when I saw no one got sick, I started eating them too. They were very good and always fresh.I ate them raw on sandwiches mostly. To this day, I can't tell you how June knew which ones were the right ones. She was a tough Christian woman and I trusted her!
@juanitaross5492
@juanitaross5492 8 ай бұрын
I use to go mushroom gathering with my father. He knew the difference between the good ones and the poison ones. If any where questionable we didn't take any chances. I'm 69 and still alive. Dad taught us well.
@wicky4473
@wicky4473 9 ай бұрын
I love your dry sense of humour. And your ‘Hitchcockian’ reference.
@psparks73
@psparks73 9 ай бұрын
Why would you have a lunch with your in-laws to convince them you and your husband should get back together? Are they teenagers? Or in some arranged marriage situation? I've never heard of this type of luncheon.
@lostandfound5145
@lostandfound5145 9 ай бұрын
It seems like a desperate ploy and perhaps the in-laws attended out of pity
@susivarga7303
@susivarga7303 9 ай бұрын
The mil's brother-in-law was a pastor and mediator.
@KanyeKetchup
@KanyeKetchup 9 ай бұрын
Australian inbred way of life 😂
@katie3657
@katie3657 9 ай бұрын
I know right
@Hatbox948
@Hatbox948 9 ай бұрын
The whole thing is strange. If you're at a dinner and the hostess and her children ate completely different meals, wouldn't most people question that? I wonder if her guests really thought they were there to discuss her reuniting with her ex?
@h-lorolltide92
@h-lorolltide92 9 ай бұрын
I can't stop laughing! Not at this horrible situation, but Dr. Grande's sense of humor. You NEVER let me down.
@susanguzzo4941
@susanguzzo4941 9 ай бұрын
OMG. I thought it was just me but I was laughing throughout (so inappropriate I thought to myself but his commentary cracked me up).
@nicoleferlazzo6591
@nicoleferlazzo6591 9 ай бұрын
I know! I was laughing like a crazy person. Dr Grande's dry sense of humour and dead pan look gets me every time
@greatsol2444
@greatsol2444 9 ай бұрын
She’s obviously a poisoner. I was also poisoned at a time during the past several years. It’s strange but, some people are so vile, as to poison people and make it seem as though their victims are suffering “illness” from the pandemic. What horrible people. I’m glad I have at least one good friend…
@abbiealverez2960
@abbiealverez2960 9 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear this you should be calling the cops if someone poisoned you that's tottally effed up
@Silver-Sliver
@Silver-Sliver 9 ай бұрын
If she deliberately served, and watched people eat death caps, she's a cold hearted fiend. Premeditated murder! Maybe not the first time either..
@freila8156
@freila8156 9 ай бұрын
I hope the police is also looking into her parents' death and how her ex husband was hospitalized with similar symptoms before. This woman is sussy af.
@paulettebanks3217
@paulettebanks3217 9 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@janetdonald9801
@janetdonald9801 9 ай бұрын
Her parents deats, I hadn’t thought about that 😮
@kristyw89
@kristyw89 9 ай бұрын
She did inherit a house from that, so that would be one benefit of doing that
@bioshawna
@bioshawna 9 ай бұрын
Super sus!
@supremacy2040
@supremacy2040 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the same especially since she inherited it. Would not be surprised if she invited her husband & fam to get rid of them in one fell swoop
@marcouellette4671
@marcouellette4671 9 ай бұрын
One year in Hawaii Deathcaps grew all over the place in huge numbers. My landlord did not think they were poisonous. He took a very tiny piece of one, about the size of a pea. He almost died.
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 9 ай бұрын
DANG! THOSE ARE DEADLY!!!
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 9 ай бұрын
the poison recirculates again and again from damaged livers...activated carbon filtration can help...but your will be on a machine for evermore.
@breathnstop
@breathnstop 9 ай бұрын
What an idiot. Thought he was special I guess.
@FernRoses
@FernRoses 9 ай бұрын
Oh my! 😳
@marcouellette4671
@marcouellette4671 9 ай бұрын
@@andyharpist2938 eight hours after he took that tiny piece, he call needing a ride to the hospital because he was throwing up and passing blood from his rear end. They put activated charcoal and pump to stomach and gave them all kinds of medications
@Wilko11
@Wilko11 9 ай бұрын
The testing of packaged mushrooms, both imported & local in Australia is very stringent to avoid any poisonous ones. And there's no record of anybody ever being poisoned by dried packaged mushrooms. Surely there would have been many more cases of poisoning if she had bought them at an Asian grocery store as claimed. She then said she couldn't remember where the store was, and also disposed of a food dehydrator at the garbage dump a day after serving the deadly meal. She claimed to forget about having disposed of it.
@moshunit96
@moshunit96 9 ай бұрын
"Everybody knows supermarkets clearly mark their muchrooms as fatal and non fatal" Almost missed that with his dry sense of humor.
@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez 9 ай бұрын
There are two categories of mushroom poisoning incident: Incidents where the chef eats the food, and incidents where they dont. Every incident where they dont has turned out to be a murder in my personal experience.
@edithflood631
@edithflood631 9 ай бұрын
Personal experience? Are you a chef?
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 9 ай бұрын
​@@edithflood631busy body. Haha. Just jokes. Yeah what experience?
@SanFranDentist94301
@SanFranDentist94301 9 ай бұрын
Kinda unfortunate. MY partner enjoys mushrooms, me much less so. I'm skeeved out by them. So I could see myself making beef and mushrooms for a dinner but sticking to my chicken mushu sabs mushrooms.
@firecrest27
@firecrest27 9 ай бұрын
'Your personal experience' lol do you need investigating?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 9 ай бұрын
​@@edithflood631 A bit of satire, that's all.
@RebeccaFitzgerald666
@RebeccaFitzgerald666 9 ай бұрын
Another interesting factor that I don’t see mentioned often is that these mushrooms have been out of season here for about 2 months now. My guess is that this is where that disposed dehydrator comes into play. To me it indicates some degree of premeditation.
@adda312
@adda312 9 ай бұрын
Good point!!
@whatevvadude
@whatevvadude 9 ай бұрын
"Simon has indicated he has no intention of reuniting with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to continue living." HAHAHAHA. For you to say this and many other things in this video in such a nonchalant way and with no expressions on your face is pure brilliance. You should do stand up comedy! 🤣😂😅
@alisonwilks302
@alisonwilks302 9 ай бұрын
That alliteration was first class 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@HLB313
@HLB313 9 ай бұрын
“Hey Erin, how did the big lunch at the weekend go, did you get your husband back?”
@karenclag8791
@karenclag8791 9 ай бұрын
😂
@joycemarie9702
@joycemarie9702 9 ай бұрын
Perfect!! 😂
@johnnyrook6371
@johnnyrook6371 9 ай бұрын
There's absolutely no way they could have been store bought! There would have been a huge food recall.
@skysi666
@skysi666 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention that selling poisonous mushrooms is really bad for repeat customers
@soup-nazi6824
@soup-nazi6824 9 ай бұрын
Store bought mushrooms are from large scale commercial growers here in Australia-they don't buy random mushrooms picked by the public...😅
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 9 ай бұрын
Actually.. wrong. I supply vendors with wild hand picked mushrooms.. I get 100$ a lb for morel and 75$ a lb for chicken of the woods and hen of the woods. If the store locally sourced the mushrooms there would not be a recall. This lady I’d definitely guilty. But understand a lot of mushrooms are sourced locally. And it’s totally possible for someone to pick a look alike . I spore print each batch. And am dam sure what I sell is correct..
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie 9 ай бұрын
@@hondaxl250k0 Why do you put your dollar signs after the number? Do you do that on your invoices too?
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 9 ай бұрын
@@It-is-me...Melsie why are you a grammar nazi??
@alexandergaus493
@alexandergaus493 8 ай бұрын
"This would be bad for business - mostly because of the dying part..." 😂😂😂 Thanks. That made the start of today much funnier.
@renatebishop57
@renatebishop57 9 ай бұрын
Love it, Todd your sense of humor is growing. Keep up the good work.
@LadyVesuvius
@LadyVesuvius 9 ай бұрын
I personally think Erin wanting to get back with her ex and getting everyone together because of it was just a ruse to get them all round to eat her mushrooms, including the ex. The fact she and her children did not eat the mushrooms speaks volumes. When I cook for a group, I usually cook something everyone can/will eat so the fact the most important people to her (her kids and herself) did not eat it and were the ONLY people not to eat it is very odd. The fact she lied about buying the shrooms at a grocery store is a red flag - unless she can provide some reciept, I call BS. Guilty af imo.
@kathyryder828
@kathyryder828 9 ай бұрын
She didn't buy them at a supermarket. We have strict food regulations in Australia and NZ. Most supermarkets only sell commercially grown white button mushrooms and brown field mushrooms. Amanita phalloides does not look like either of those. I've never heard of Amanita phalloides contaminating batches of commercially grown mushrooms. It doesn't like that substrate. Some supermarkets are branching out and selling a few specialty types of fungi. Again, they're commercially grown and don't resemble Amanita phalloides. Other people would've almost certainly become sick if the mushrooms were purchased from a store too. This mushroom grows in the wild. Typically under pine trees. It's common to find them in the area where Erin lives
@sjjoker4724
@sjjoker4724 9 ай бұрын
“This may because he has a desire to continue living”… that’s why I’m going to avoid to mushroom foragers… they seem all cute and quirky with their baskets filled with mushrooms but their hearts are filled with HATE. 😂
@schmickler.83
@schmickler.83 9 ай бұрын
That alliteration in your conclusion was pure poetry, incredible!! Interesting case as well
@julieharward5476
@julieharward5476 9 ай бұрын
I can’t help but wonder if her ex-husband’s prior bouts of sickness were her doing dosage testing- or just failing to kill him each time, so she continued increasing the amount.
@rs3007
@rs3007 9 ай бұрын
A few year ago after vacation- our dog got so sick, it was many days of hell and the vet couldn't figure it out. The people who watched our dog denied anything unusual, denied our dog was sick (thought maybe some kind of extreme anxiety, stop eating, puking, diarrhea, shaking/tremors hair falling out, crying dog pain whimpering etc) eventually she recovered 💕... I went over to their house and looked in their yard and I found mushrooms that looked exactly like this in the corner of their fenced in yard (google imagined them, death caps!)... I am convinced to this day that my dog was eating poisonous mushrooms in their yard when we were gone, Luckily she survived!
@kimberlygabaldon3260
@kimberlygabaldon3260 9 ай бұрын
There are other Amanitas such as A pantherina, and A muscaria that dogs and even cats are attracted to. A pantherina could be mistaken for a death cap, but the dog usually recovers after a day or so. Still, it's always best to keep your eyes open..
@78grafikal
@78grafikal 9 ай бұрын
OR THE DOG BIT A FROG
@kathyryder828
@kathyryder828 9 ай бұрын
The people who looked after your dog may have been telling the truth. He may have seemed okay when he was with them. Amanita phalloides causes liver. The symptoms don't usually occur for 4 - 7 days after consuming the mushrooms. I agree with the other comment that it was probably a less toxic A. phalloides lookalike. Your dog would only have to eat a small piece of an A. phalloides and they'd probably die. I wouldn't rely on Google images for an accurate fungi ID. Local or online fungi groups usually have experts who can provide accurate IDs. I'm glad your dog survived.
@Ceebear231071
@Ceebear231071 9 ай бұрын
I’m in Melbourne, this is a huge case and thank you for bringing all the information together. News tonight advised that the Pastor is now in a stable position.
@elizabethnuttall5374
@elizabethnuttall5374 9 ай бұрын
But he needs a liver transplant.
@TLovetoDance012
@TLovetoDance012 9 ай бұрын
Thank God the Pastor is somewhat better!🙏🏻❤️
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 9 ай бұрын
Thank god! What good news!!!! So sad he lost his wife of many years. But so glad he lived. Poor man. What trauma and damage to his body.
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 9 ай бұрын
"Fight like a girl" so character assassination and poison his food.
@TGravy-wp4rc
@TGravy-wp4rc 9 ай бұрын
​@@nikitaw1982that's how they do it!
@lalouvesolitaire1868
@lalouvesolitaire1868 9 ай бұрын
This was once again a Magnificent Monologue about Mushrooms 👏
@jonsmith6982
@jonsmith6982 9 ай бұрын
Earlier this month, a person close to the family said Patterson was an “experienced fungi forager”. According to the Daily Mail Australia, Patterson was known to often and expertly pick wild mushrooms around Victoria’s Gippsland region A friend of Patterson’s family revealed Erin was “very good at foraging” and identifying different mushroom varieties ..But brought the ones she used from a unnamed Asian supermarket she claims ? sussy as .
@jenitastarr19
@jenitastarr19 9 ай бұрын
I find her crocodile tears to be very disturbing. Thanks for your excellent coverage of the topic, and I love your sense of humour!
@jenitastarr19
@jenitastarr19 9 ай бұрын
I've been hoping that someone would cover this story on YT
@dougwhiley4028
@dougwhiley4028 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I first became suspicious when it seemed that she was forcing her voice to sound more upset.
@cinemar
@cinemar 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I wasn't convinced either. They appeared to be very dry tears when sobbing in her driveway. The lack of water seemed weird to me. I think she did this and also caused her ex husband to be sick.
@dougwhiley4028
@dougwhiley4028 9 ай бұрын
@@cinemar I think we can safely conclude that she was lying about buying the mushrooms from a shop.
@cinemar
@cinemar 9 ай бұрын
Yeah button, oyster and shitake are pretty much the range on offer at my shop. Very little poison on sale.@@dougwhiley4028
@Escherlife
@Escherlife 9 ай бұрын
I live in Australia and this case has been all over the news. However I still got more information from you than the media has released. Thank you Dr Grande 👏
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever 9 ай бұрын
Bullshit. You have access to the same info Grande does. If you lack info it's because you're not paying attention.
@Judi-AustralianEmptyNester
@Judi-AustralianEmptyNester 9 ай бұрын
There's not a lot about it hey - i actually googled this story last night and its all very quiet.
@teresaluther6531
@teresaluther6531 9 ай бұрын
Same. I don't know how he managed to get so much info when here in Australia we've heard very little.
@michelegrice4938
@michelegrice4938 9 ай бұрын
Don't believe everything you read. This person is getting likes and comments
@NickTaylorRickPowers
@NickTaylorRickPowers 9 ай бұрын
I know right we never heard nothing about it being beef Wellington
@tuvia4082
@tuvia4082 9 ай бұрын
Alliteration is always aright and allowed. Thanks for the video Dr. Grande.
@matthewbyrd2329
@matthewbyrd2329 9 ай бұрын
That alliteration was monstrously mega massive, monsieur!
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 9 ай бұрын
She should have said she foraged them herself and due to inexperience accidently picked death caps. It would have still gotten her a charge, but not murder. When she tried to claim they came from a store, she was immediately made into a murderer, because stores don't sell death caps. She may have gotten involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. It would have still looked dodgy since they've grown on her property for a long time and it is apparently the first time she suddenly decided to go and pick them and use them in a meal neither she nor her children touched (if ignore the ex husband getting very sick for a moment), but it would make her appear to be less of a liar and added some doubt to her intentions.
@catm2454
@catm2454 9 ай бұрын
Yea true
@teresayeates3437
@teresayeates3437 9 ай бұрын
Certainly, however criminals do not think the way we do, which is why we do not commit crimes. For example the average person thinks from point a to point bbto point c, the criminal thinks only from point a to point b, I want to steal, murder, whatever, and then to how they will do it. See how many look shocked or angry etc. when faced with concequences.
@TheMazinoz
@TheMazinoz 9 ай бұрын
@@teresayeates3437 This seems to apply to her. She doesn't come across as the brightest lamp in the room.
@jimmytwostones
@jimmytwostones 9 ай бұрын
She’ll change her story before or at the trial
@erikarnold4737
@erikarnold4737 9 ай бұрын
In this economy, if I'm at the store and the fatal mushrooms happen to be on sale, I stock up.
@kwas101
@kwas101 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the laugh!
@looloolawrence4009
@looloolawrence4009 9 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness! Some of the one sentence remarks you made were brilliant, and love the ending. I find it very hard to believe this woman in innocent.
@TWW-zk9gw
@TWW-zk9gw 9 ай бұрын
The good news is the mushrooms are on sale at the supermarkets here in NSW. Seems like people don't fancy them all of a sudden!
@lindawilson4625
@lindawilson4625 9 ай бұрын
I think any deaths around her need a second look... inherited the house? This one might end up being on Forensic Files :-) Thanks again, Dr. Grande!
@bluestarblue22
@bluestarblue22 9 ай бұрын
At this rate the police will be looking into ANY unusual deaths around her.
@devadethereal6301
@devadethereal6301 9 ай бұрын
She made the food, yet didn't eat any and made sure her kids didn't... you can bet it was intentional. She's only sorry about getting caught. She either saw them as an obstacle in the way of getting what she wanted and felt the need to eliminate them or she thought they were to blame for her failed marriage and wanted revenge. I can't believe she's not been brought up on charges yet, especially after finding that dehydrator.
@TheMazinoz
@TheMazinoz 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure they are working on it, just wanting to well and truly prove the case. She hasn't exactly been cooperative either which may be delaying the matter.
@kumasucki
@kumasucki 9 ай бұрын
Im in Melbourne. She said she did eat the meal. Now she's admitted she lied about where her kids were that day.
@palomaalhambra2453
@palomaalhambra2453 9 ай бұрын
What is a dehydrator and what's it got to do with deadly poisonous mushrooms? (Genuine question, not all of us have a clue.)
@xoxsilentrealmxox
@xoxsilentrealmxox 9 ай бұрын
I have faith she will be, they're just preparing their case
@xoxsilentrealmxox
@xoxsilentrealmxox 9 ай бұрын
​@@palomaalhambra2453it dehydrates food. She claims she used a mix of fresh button mushrooms and other dehydrated mushrooms from an Asian grocery store. I'm guessing she used the dehydrator with the death caps
@FroggyBarnett
@FroggyBarnett 9 ай бұрын
Firstly, thanks for pronouncing Melbourne correctly. Second, thanks for covering this one. It’s an ongoing investigation and keeping everyone hooked in
@janewineland
@janewineland 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate Dr. Grande's sly humor as much as his evaluations of these individuals. I think his jibes are even funnier because he never smiles when he's delivering them.
@mikehubbard1967
@mikehubbard1967 9 ай бұрын
Before we get too far into this thing, she inherited a million-dollar town home after her parents passed away? Like, natural causes passed away? Or, more like, ya know, murder them, passed away. I'm just starting the show and already I have things to share. Man, I love the internets.
@justintime753
@justintime753 9 ай бұрын
Damn they better take another look at there deaths
@ElaraNightsky
@ElaraNightsky 9 ай бұрын
she literally had zero benefit, including financially, killing ex's parents. nice try tho😒 edit: the op made baseless accusation about her parents for financial gain and suggested the woman is repeating on his parents, absurd
@ToyInsanity
@ToyInsanity 9 ай бұрын
They were fans of here beef welly 😮
@ceilconstante640
@ceilconstante640 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Probably should exhume the bodies and run some toxiciflolgy tests.
@leahvogelsimpson
@leahvogelsimpson 9 ай бұрын
Right. It's kinda weird they both died in 2019, although not impossible.
@drewgrant3128
@drewgrant3128 9 ай бұрын
One small correction Dr G. Here in Australia, July isn't summer, but winter. I always enjoy your videos, humour and perspective on cases. Thanks for all the effort you put into your material.
@hw7029
@hw7029 9 ай бұрын
Wild mushrooms are a winter food 🍄
@cultundergroundmoviesmusic845
@cultundergroundmoviesmusic845 9 ай бұрын
No tears when she's crying
@everythingbobbywolfe
@everythingbobbywolfe 9 ай бұрын
I'm guessing 4-7 days before the police file charges against her. It's just a matter of getting enough info for the prosecutor.
@Seabreeezy
@Seabreeezy 9 ай бұрын
LOL. Oh my gosh. His commentary in this one is killing me. “Mostly because of the dying part” is just one of his many zingers delivered with a completely serious voice and face. Very funny.
@ToyInsanity
@ToyInsanity 9 ай бұрын
Grande seems like such a fun guy.
@bthomson
@bthomson 9 ай бұрын
🤸🃏🍄🍿🍭
@simonbelmont5801
@simonbelmont5801 9 ай бұрын
I see what you did there. 😄
@pwyman5540
@pwyman5540 9 ай бұрын
Fungi? 😅😅😅
@Ena48145
@Ena48145 9 ай бұрын
More details than I've found anywhere in the states.. I live in Maryland. Imagine spending all of that time on beef wellington and not eating it.. not suspicious at all! Hmm, well unless you don't eat meat. This is so horrific and disturbing beyond words. Her parents died the same year? Interesting. Where on earth did she get these mushrooms?
@MarjanKarsin
@MarjanKarsin 9 ай бұрын
LOL The deliberate display of emotional neutrality and deadpan humor always cracks me up! Well done Doc! 👍
@Harassed247
@Harassed247 9 ай бұрын
My work colleague had lost her sister in law to one of these poisonous mushrooms, and her brother was in a fatal condition. The wife was very much into wild mushrooms and was very knowledgeable, she'd go off mushroom picking this day as she had for years and collected her mushrooms for a dinner she was preparing for her family. She absolutely adored her husband and their children and would often arrange meal gatherings. On this particular occasion she prepared the lunch only to receive a call that her family couldn't make it to lunch and would rearrange. However, her husband said that they would still eat the meal since she'd prepared it. Hours later the wife was seriously ill with nausea and stomach pain, her husband called the emergency services who told him NOT to induce vomiting. Unfortunately this was a big mistake as vomiting would have helped to release some of the toxins frim her stomach. She was rushed to hospital but sadly died. Her husband within hours would also become very sick too and was rushed into ED. He survived thankfully but has never recovered psychologically. Even though she knew her mushrooms, she'd picked some that looked like ones she'd normally eat not realising they weren't. It was so tragic.
@nicolesamsonite
@nicolesamsonite 9 ай бұрын
Why did emergency services tell them not to induce vomiting?
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 9 ай бұрын
​@@nicolesamsonitefor most poisonings it's not the correct thing to do for some reason that I don't know. Maybe they are worried it can be aspirated and cause further complications getting it into your lungs and airways.
@nicolesamsonite
@nicolesamsonite 9 ай бұрын
@@clutchboi4038 oh okay, that makes sense.
@ultraboombean
@ultraboombean 9 ай бұрын
Don't fuck with mushrooms.
@deedk
@deedk 9 ай бұрын
​@clutchboi4038 it's also if it is a caustic poisoning it can burn/damage the esophagus as it comes back up.
@Bebecat477
@Bebecat477 9 ай бұрын
She's probably sorry she missed the estranged husband
@alangknowles
@alangknowles 9 ай бұрын
Her first two husbands died of poisoned mushrooms. The third of falling downstairs because he wouldn't eat mushrooms.
@Leslie_Knope
@Leslie_Knope 9 ай бұрын
​@@alangknowles My dad makes this joke, except he says "my first 4 wives died of mushroom poisoning, the 5th died of gunshot wounds because she wouldn't eat her mushrooms."
@Leslie_Knope
@Leslie_Knope 9 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure she planned on killing all of them, including the ex. She never planned on reuniting. She should be in prison for 3 homicides, or is it 4? It's unbelievable that she is still walking free right now.
@leahlang7454
@leahlang7454 9 ай бұрын
Your sense of humor is amazing. I almost spat out my drink with some of your wry delivery is everything.
@tasosdiaforetico7377
@tasosdiaforetico7377 9 ай бұрын
How Todd kept a straight face I'll never know the ending was Pure poetry
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