Star Wars Jedi Knight II (Retro Review) - Worthabuy?

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[@WorthABuyreviews]

All the recent E3 shilling, screaming, screeching and whooping over NOTHING prompted me to lock myself away with one of my favourite games of all time and complete it again. I just want to let you see how gaming used to be and am sure a large amount of my viewers already know this anyway :) Hopefully the devs of the new Star wars game have taken notice of the old classics, I doubt it but we can live in hope.

[@maltorsever]

Sadly since Disney has the license /rights for Star wars and can pretty much dictate anything that goes in it I seriously doubt we will see anything worth while

[@Ashurruhsan]

Ah, I see you too are a man of culture. I too find myself replaying good old games that are focused on gameplay when the industry these days just churns out shit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfZqZ-oaLN7n68

[@bluebear3812]

Really enjoyed the Twitch stream, made me want to play it. Question: can you run this on Windows 10? I've heard some people say yes, others say no.

[@rex9912]

This is one of my favorite games of all time, I wish they could go back to this type of game design

[@cybergun01]

Loved the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series of games, as well as X-Wing vs TIE fighter series. Classic games.

[@TheKotor2309]

This is the benchmark for Star Wars games. If the devs can’t match it, they have no business even putting out a game.

[@elcidS15]

Amen

[@TheRixtah1]

This, Republic Commando, and Knights of the Old Republic form the holy trinity of masterclass Star Wars games. Jedi Academy, Empire at War, and Battlefront especially are also worthy titles.

[@Montyandrew45]

Yeah there is no way EA would put out a game like this. There is no money farm for them

[@BabyKobeeee]

DONT DISRESPECT BATTLEFRONT 2

[@Montyandrew45]

@@BabyKobeeee Which Battlefront 2? The Real one or the new one

[@OverlordZephyros]

They don't make good star wars games like they used to I wish they continue Kotor and rogue squadron too

[@jasonmhite]

I wish The Old Republic had been more successful. It actually did a lot of things well, it just wasn't very innovative in other areas.

[@MyRickyjoe]

@Isaac Clarke *rubs thumb and forefinger together menacingly* AAA just doesn't give a shit about single-player games anymore, they want a clash-of-clans or WoW-style subscription service, or it just isn't worth their time, apparently. I am so done with AAA, and every franchise that I used to love, people like us aren't the preferred audience anymore, because we aren't brain-dead whales.

[@fierto]

Kotor. Those 2 games were so good!

[@AWretchedMan]

nobodybodybody The old republic is garbage and doesn't even compare to Kotor lmao! 😂

[@lewispitts9448]

Lord Zephyros Rumours of a Kotor movie script, really hope they don’t butcher it.

[@codesterrrr]

g_saberRealisticCombat 1

[@TheTommify]

Omg the memories

[@yosharian]

Exactly. Fucking epic with this on

[@wilhufftarkin8543]

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[@xlviiK]

After literally over a decade I still remember that code as if it were yesterday.

[@RKroese]

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[@pyramidhead3109]

dont even have to watch it, it's WAB 100000000000000000000%

[@moth2185]

Didnt even need to watch it to know its WAB

[@lwaves]

The question isn't "Is it worth a buy," it's "Why haven't you already bought it." :-)

[@arnox4554]

Just a note. If you wanna play multiplayer, you should really get Jedi Academy as it makes JK2's MP almost entirely obsolete. And you really should be playing multiplayer as it's hands down one of the absolute best aspects of the whole Jedi Knight series.

[@kibo4568]

I'm a young one, turning 19 this year. Brought this game and played it after watching your video comparing this to the combat in the Witcher 3 and I must thank you for opening my eyes when you did a few years ago. I realized everything I had been missing with all the shit that is put out there by the gaming industry in the last few years. I've been playing almost exclusively old games since then to experience all the gems I've missed and will never be made again in the foreseeable future. So again, thank you for opening my eyes Mack. The last couple years of gaming has been unforgettable thanks to you!

[@WorthABuyreviews]

I think I used Jedi academy as the compared game but tbh it's almost identical to this combat wise, anyway you now see why I have such a problem with modern AAA combat, it just sucks.

[@TheQuantumShell]

Funny thing, is that I recently installed this game and playing it :) Absolutely excellent. The level design back then in games is by far superior what we get today.

[@TheQuantumShell]

@@Arglactable I feel you and have played all the games you mentioned :) and your avatar bring back good old memories. When I remember how many times i got lost on that station and how many times I couldn't find codes for doors. ah, those were the days when you needed brain for figuring out stuff. The only good game in the last decade that I had fun and got lost on the way trying to find items and paths to progress was Dark Souls. That game has great lvl design.

[@TheQuantumShell]

@@Arglactable I hope in the future we'll see more games that are complex and have great lvl design like we use to have back in the day, but that would need a huge change on gamers mentality that we have today. Majority of new gamers are not into it. They want it all served on the platter with one button mashing and "I want to win" now button. This decade was a huge downfall in game design and how every decade is very different than the previous one I just really hope we see a huge turn around towards quality gaming. The new game that FromSoftware is making with George R.R. Martin is taken me by surprise. They talk about open world. How will they approach it is a real mystery to me. It could be something new and fresh as they haven't done anything like it before or it could fall flat. I hope not :)

[@SpartanOfLuxon]

Hey Mac, there is still multiplayer on Jedi Knight Jedi Academy

[@TheHypernaught]

It's great Movie Battles 2 mod is awesome

[@cit-bolon-tum1322]

do you play it? I used to play jka a lot (1000s of hours)

[@invinciblereason1618]

It's sad to think that a game from nearly twenty years ago has better lightsaber combat than modern star wars games. Have devs working on star wars games ever played jedi academy? They should have taken notes from these games instead of dark souls and the witcher. Also, for anybody reading this including mack, check out a mod for jedi academy called movie battles 2. It's an online class based mod with the most realistic lightsaber combat you will ever see. Tons of classes with various weapons, lots of maps that the players vote on and it's one of those experiences where funny shit happens all the time. It's really hard to master but my god is it a good experience. The community on certain servers is a bit toxic (tR servers) but if you find a decent server it is great fun. Not that many people play it nowadays but there's always enough usually for two or three full servers and i highly recommend checking it out.

[@davidhero1000]

This is why i couldnt enjoy battlefront 2 combat is trash

[@zzygyy]

I bought the collectors edition back in the day. Steel box with lightsaber key chain. This game rocks..... "Just a guy with a lightsaber"

[@Droid98765]

Rather have this remastered then Jedi Fallen Order

[@utrak]

you'd rather have a glorious masterpiece than a steaming pile of shite? Imagine that. *ding*

[@mrt4755]

@@utrak they say fallen order is much better then what they showed at E3 and its closer to metroid and dark souls then just another nathan drake adventure clone heres hoping anyway

[@patrickoviatt2432]

Definately agree. still have it, and boy I still love the force-choke Saber-throw combo

[@SleepyDroid]

Fallen order doesn't even have limbs taking off. Like this game.

[@ImaITman]

@@mrt4755 I hope so, because you're right E3 footage was total hot garbage.

[@realhamonwry8620]

This is easily the best Star Wars game to date.

[@darken2417]

I'd say that Classic SWBFII is still a strong contender considering Galactic Conquest. Would completely blow everything out of the water if the superior PC version with higher troop counts had access to the local co-op/versus of the console version. Game basically becomes a grand strategy, first person shooter, space combat game when playing against a friend in Galactic Conquest as they both fight to dominate the map. Alas this is all talk of a long dead golden age.

[@valkir293]

Knights of the Old Republic 1 & 2 are better than the Jedi Knight series.

[@realhamonwry8620]

@@valkir293 - I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.

[@valkir293]

@@realhamonwry8620 Nope, played them both again in 2017. KOTOR 1&2 all the way.

[@Dja05]

I like academy better tbh :/

[@KnightPapa]

To be honest, most of the triple A games are not going to change much because they are maximizing profit when they put less emphasis on actual game development and more on marketing. It's unfortunate, but it also gives Indie developers a chance to prove themselves. There are a lot of indie gems out there. I guess we'll wait and see what the second half of 2019 brings us.

[@alexa1591]

Knight which is why it was an absolute sin to give the Star Wars IP solely to EA. We’ll never get anything remotely different or innovative again in the Star Wars universe whilst they have their rancid claws in it. Although I suppose you could say the same about Disney and the films

[@chris.dillon]

First, I was like: _there's a new one!?_ Then I saw the (Retro Review). Then you said _let's read the words from 17 years ago_. Actual, real life LOL. You got me. :D

[@ZaffProductions]

Such a great game. I actually finished this as a kid on Jedi Master back in the day. I’m struggling as an adult on the normal difficulty 😭

[@DNH17]

Keep trying u will become a kid again.. it s abt the brain.

[@ZaffProductions]

This brain takes slightly longer nowadays unfortunately. And less patience!

[@AlexanderPews]

oh yes my childhood was great, I was like 12 when I played this and I did it for quite some years. My favorite things to do was play online and duel in lightsaber combat, sometimes friends would have LAN parties and we duel eachother. Also in the campaign just throwing jedi tricks or throwing the lightsaber at stormtroopers was so damn satisfying.

[@LonelyGamr]

Yeah same. Also played operation flashpoint and dues ex. Great time for pc

[@pumpkinpie8235]

Oh yes, the MP was awesome fun!

[@daveeller9708]

PC gaming at its finest. The difficulty is reminiscent of games from the 80s and 90s (when I played some of the best games ever). Thanks for this, Mac.

[@DNH17]

The best game for difficulty is Ice man... u will really face difficulty there. (Sierra). It s on gog fortunately.

[@daveeller9708]

@@DNH17 So are a lot of others from that era. Bard's Tale, Starflight, Zork etc. I wish they would bring those types of games back. Those companies cared about their games and reputations.

[@ardoronro6677]

Oh yeah, disemboweling opponents in this game was satisfying. Thanks for the reminder of Star Wars games' better days.

[@Mikplayeur]

Nice video in order to explain why "Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order" will be not a true "jedi" game.

[@slickysan]

but it will be close. i.ve just completed jk on oculus too with the vr mod. fallen is the closest thing we will ever get. i hope heads will fly and dont fuck it up with a t rating

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

Except it was. Fallen Order is the more accurate representation of a Jedi on the run during order 66.

[@noahfessenden6478]

Jedi Fallen Order is actually pretty fun. But it still doesn't hold a candle to Jedi Outcast.

[@RichardVSmall]

Do Jedi Academy next, there's even still an active multiplayer with the Movie Battles mod!

[@maxwagner6342]

I know you haven’t played the original fallouts, but I would love your thoughts on fallout 1 and 2 because they are my two favorite RPGS of all time.

[@maxwagner6342]

Mi Ke honestly picking between 1 and 2 is one of the hardest decisions but if I had to pick it would be one because I very slightly prefer the story, but overall 2 is just a better game in scope.

[@guitaroso]

Always said this was one of the best games I ever played - there was something about the combat that felt so rewarding -- no lock-ons, fluid motion Even playing multiplayer was awesome

[@mattmattmatt131313]

You are in control of your character. You point at what you want to hit (with a mouse not a controller) and if your weapon connects with the enemy you get a hit. In most modern games all you are doing by pushing buttons is triggering a fancy animation with your enemy. The first time the animation looks cool, the 1000th time after a few hours of gaming it is just a snooze. Watching this gameplay reminds me again of Mount and Blade. One of the last oldschool PC games that still survive (maybe...cause Bannerlord) :(

[@kaskas9882]

If this game got a reboot in 2019 journalists will cry because of the difficulty lool.

[@TheHypernaught]

2007 was a great year for gaming. Crysis, TF2, Quake Wars, Portal, and even Modern Warfare (yeah the shitiest title that year)

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Any reboot of this game is bound to suck tbh. You just don't get this level of attention to detail anymore.

[@undergroundman5153]

Kas Kas988 it just got ported to the Switch and PlayStation 4.

[@Fnelrbnef]

And because he saves a woman.

[@eagletheblue]

Man, I played hours and hours of FFA in MP. Jedi Academy next?

[@greatdelusion7654]

* Switches to Geordie accent * _YOU DON’T KNOW THE POWAH OF THE FORCE!_ 🤣

[@scrombom]

Just found this game on sale, Knew nothing about it. Very pleasantly surprised

[@codesterrrr]

I have great memories with this game. One of the first I played intensely. Especially the multiplayer.

[@DNH17]

I know what u mean... big memories with operation flash point for me in 2001. No multiplayer for me but .. what a blast

[@Mike76528]

Back when games didn’t hold your hand the entire way and u actually had to use your brain

[@Muckytuja]

Damn right!

[@bluevenom50]

Cam you do a retro review of Gladius, this made me think of it as it's a lucasarts game. And holy shit it's so good but doesn't get enough attention

[@robolivieri9915]

Multiplayer isn't dead. There's a mod called Movie Battles 2 which allows you to play multiplayer and there's a huge variety of characters to play as. There's also another mod called Movie Duels 2 and you get to play through all six original movies. It feels like its own game, highly recommend that one as well.

[@Droid98765]

Star wars EU games were great compared to Disney's

[@sdsdfdu4437]

Given the gameplay shown for fallen order, it has the potential to not be crap, although it likely won't live up to jedi academy and jedi outcast. The problem is it's EA and you can't trust them worth a damn

[@CamoflaugeDinosaue]

Sdsdfdu it’s going to be on rails, scripted, guided. I’d be willing to bet on that. Animations look smooth and fluid, but that novelty wears off in about 5 seconds.

[@RicardoSanchez-es5wl]

Mack, you triggered a nostalgia overload for me with this game. I remember being in 4th and 5th grade coming home from school and going to my grandmas house every day looking forward to playing this game. Time really does fly...

[@rentonmalseed-smith4431]

Am I the only one who would love to see Mack do a top ten games of all time?

[@aidenrogers1468]

Fallout 1 and 2 next? Fallout Tactics if you want i guess

[@eiszapfenderwutendenwinde3233]

Fallout Tactics is good and i wished the original two Fallout games had exactly that combat system/s! But people are too stupid to read. The title already says it, TACTICS and everyone is crying about how not RPG like that game is. Man, its about combat. Enter Level, shoot everything down, loot and go home. If i go to the pizzeria, i don't expect to eat a McFool's crappy hamburger!

[@greatdelusion7654]

The more the years roll on, the more the greatness of this game is realised.

[@hikeskool]

Great critique on modern gaming. Here is my own experience: I am tied to PUBG with my friends. I typically play every major "AAA" shooter that comes down the pike, at least the single player campaigns. I had a craving for old-school fun, so I reinstalled the 2016 Doom and started dabbling in the campaign on hard. Like you, I 'sperged out initially. This thing was tough, at least for me! I had been softened up by total fucking garbage over the years. But in the end, I had a BLAST. Guess what? My PUBG performance improved. No longer was I pissed about getting run up on or losing midrange engagements. I was the guy leading the squad because I was confident I could snap to a target the fastest out of all my friends. Folks, play the older stuff again. You will enjoy it, even if the learning curve is steep!

[@ImJustPeter]

Imagine this game, but with 2019 graphics....... I want it so badly! And I guess you should move onto Jedi Academy now :D

[@Brekner]

I remember playing this while not having access to the internet yet...man, it was brutal, lol. Some of the puzzles were way too difficult for me, but i did manage to finish the game!

[@Sepaniuss]

The multiplayer is not dead. Theres a community in 1.02 and 1.04 versions of the multiplayer. You should come check it out. It's true the servers are empty often, but theres players during EU evenings/nights or when you ask people in various JK2 discords, they will come play with you. If someone wants to try it, I can show you the ropes. Heres a really nice fragmovie from this year with some of the best JK2 1.04 saber only TFFA players. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpi3mZmaa6itb68

[@rasplez9889]

*warning* Before you play, the initial resolution and other graphical changes made are extremely low quality. It's about 640x480/ 800x600, meaning you get that horrible compressed screen if you alt tab or try to escape to desktop with the game running. I'd recommend using the "Jedi knight expanded menu mod" as it has a much easier to navigate main menu, as well as other neat options like being able to choose a custom resolution. (naturally 1920x1080 would be preferable for most monitors). That's mainly the reason you'd want to use it, but it also unlocks other settings in the config menu that weren't available to change in the base game (besides editing the config file but that's fiddly and takes too much time). It also comes with an expanded cheat menu if you happen to use those so you rely less on the debug dev menu. It also dials up the decapitation on your lightsaber so it's a neat little package and really does bring the game into the modern era. Also, if it doesn't let you play because you don't have the CD, you can easily download a CD-fix patch off the internet.

[@MartinDugas]

my favourite "cheat" was deadly lightsaber, or how was it called. It made a lightsaber kill anything by just touching it (this also meant much mooore dismemberment) which made lightsaber duels even more juicy, especially in MP duels =)

[@HeviNova]

Why have none of the Jedi games been as good as the Jedi knight series? The fluid character moment and control of the lightsaber is great. This game mechanic just needs some ledge parkour like Tomb raider and you would have a constant winner control wise. Every new SW game has been clunky and restrictive on your moments and interaction with the environment. Battlefront and Force unleashed are both slow and clunky with limited movement. No crouching or rolling. No control over saber swings direction. No choice of force powers to mix and match. No wall run, acrobatics or controllable kicks. No animations to put the saber away and no variety of stances and play style. No finishers. Maybe Fallen Order with have some of this but seems closer to Force Unleashed instead of Jedi Outcast.

[@gabrielmajin5265]

jedi knight 2 and jedi academy are the best SW games ever made.there`s no debate.installing JK2 as i type this.and after i finish it i`m installing jedi academy ! and the combat...oh my lord the combat...there is no other games that have better combat.force jump, force lightning into the first group of enemies, land and crush on another, throw ya saber and decapitating another enemy while u force choke another and smash him into the fools u used lightning on..just pure carnage and flow...

[@o_o8684]

The reason developers don't add in a cheat console is because they sell all of the stuff you get from a cheat console in the form of dlc. Take Deus Ex: Mankind Divided for example, you could pay money to spawn in items. In games like skyrim, oblivion, fallout and many other older games you could do that within seconds for free. It's just atrocious what developers do to get money these days.

[@MadRobexe]

What about Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy? Oh and btw, have you seen this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoi8p4ebd9ShiKM

[@elkjaer615]

Love the retro reviews. Please make more. Maybe of some of the all time best RTS games from the old school days (Age of Empires 1 and 2, Age of Mythology + Titans Stronghold 1, Cruaser and 2, Warcraft ect).

[@Introvertedtroy]

I like how they make you wait for the lightsaber

[@maltorsever]

Games Then : required skill, use of logic and patience . levels that required you to manually travel through them and puzzles that actually presented a challenge . Games Released as a whole product , Patches were sparse but free. No Battle royale in the early to mid 2000's Games now : Literally impossible to fail even if you try to fail , 5 minute long CGI cut scenes and QTE's that take you out of the game any time that there's a "difficult " Section . having to do fetch quests with flashy glowly arrows telling you exactly where to go is considered a puzzle . Developers intentionally cut out game play and sell it as DLC / Micro transactions , patches either happen too often and end up wrecking the essential game play or no patches at all . Battle royale is literally the only Genre in 2019 (2016- God knows when the fad will die )

[@maltorsever]

something I put effort into : we sleep Shit post about Keanu Reeves : DEFCON 1 SHIT IS REAL .

[@mrdangerdave]

You're right man, it was completely different back then. Games were original and were shipped as complete products. None of this, ship it out now and we'll maybe patch it some day.

[@carny15]

When was the last time you played a game?

[@maltorsever]

@@carny15 Okay so perfect example is Fallout 76 which just recently had a period of being F2P , I played that for all of one hour and pretty much ran into everything wrong with gaming today in one game .

[@DNH17]

Agree but try to play games with no HUD like I do.. that s the only way to immerse if the game is well designed. Otherwise it s just trash i agree if it doesn t work like that either... sure u need taste and if u have u are like me, i know what u mean but i know how to solve it most of times.

[@THEJSB360]

MACK IMPORTANT LOOK UP BONEWORKS VR!!!! Everyone like this so he can see because THAT game is the FUTURE OF GAMING!!!

[@HawkeyeFan321]

FYI on sale for $2.50 @ fanatical

[@bandohabandoha2482]

To delete save games on PS4 go into systems>storage>saved data then delete away . PS Mack I lasted more than 2 seconds with the controller.

[@michaelsteffensen6844]

The combat in this looks more fun than the new Star Wars game coming out. The problem with new AAA games is the devs/publishers want it to look good all the time, and that usually results in the devs limiting what the player can do to reduce the number of situations they have to account for when making all their animations flow smoothly and whatnot. It would be almost impossible to have the kind of free-flowing combat like this game without conceding that it's going to look a bit strange at times. So now we get massively compromised combat mechanics that look "cinematic"...

[@ag0nii]

Just bought my copy for 1.33 Euro.. gonna game this tonight!! =D thank you so very much for the awesome review (as always). Remember playing this when i was younger and i loved it. Just forgotten about it.. so thnx again!

[@Williamstanway]

The levels on this game have a great atmosphere and they make you think.

[@mrdangerdave]

Amazing how different things were back in 2002. Games Journalists were still gamers, not activists. So many original games were always coming out on the PC, instead of rehash after rehash. None of the SJW crap or people seeking offense over anything. Was also easy as F*ck to get a well-paid job in the UK back then. Things seemed to take a huge downturn from about 2005 to 2013-ish.

[@DNH17]

Ahahaha game journos are activists? I WISH! U just dnt know how much money these pens get to say what producers want them to say since 50 years. Free good critics that are responsivle and take care of community of players and give them power of knowledge are super rare... activists that report the abuse happening constantly ... no.. they are not activists. You just are off the wrong path.

[@Starfals]

Game is great! I used to play it alot... that and Jedi Academy, which was a bit worse but still fun and great. I wonder why everyone hates the second game. What i really wonder is.. why can't we get epic games like this one anymore. I hope the new game is good.. but it looked really boring, unlike this game. I can go play this now, and you have to pay me to play the new game.

[@user-qe3vj2fd5y]

WTF!...I didn't know Keith Chegwin was a Jedi Knight kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXbTZamFd8mAjbM

[@thegreatmoustachio]

I would love for them to remake KOTOR 2 with this style of gameplay. The story of KOTOR 2 is fantastic, but the gameplay is pretty meh.

[@AAhmou]

A lot of things other than the gameplay are pretty meh, for example: bugs, animations, a lot of the rushed voice acting, presentation... The game have a lot of potential to be fantastic though.

[@TimmacTR]

JEDI ACADEMY + KNIGHTS OF THE FORCE MOD

[@Guccaaa]

i played fallen order...it is a trash comparing into this game...the combat system feels very boring

[@SekaiNoGaijin]

This was one of my favorites when I was a kid. I didn’t speak any english back then, so it was even harder, but I really loved it.

[@jamesrael9557]

Did you say "first person action" in the first thirteen seconds of your video during a screenshot of third person play?

[@zeichensetzer8]

You really strike a chord with me here. I was always wondering: Will somebody ever design a game like this, with rich puzzles and clever fighting mechanics..and dude..that difficulty? Maybe thats why. Today a AAA title must be hilariously easy or at least provide the HUD options to solve any Puzzle without searching and thinking and the option to transform enemies to cannon fodder..so any child can run through it persuading themselfs they had beaten a "hard" game. Companies may think, if their games where hard, less people would buy them. I don't know. All I know is, Jedi Knight 2 is the best Star Wars game with lightsabers until today. Even in 2019. Ridiculous. Some honerable mentions at last: Republic Commando, Empire at War and the original Battlefront. ..wait, why are these all old games? ^^ Ridiculous. Thanks for that video. Love the way you describe stuff, I often feel the same. Like you recommended Prey Mooncrash.^^ (Everyone who reads this line should check out Prey Mooncrash.)

[@Muckytuja]

Today's games are for the narcissistic, gender studies little whiny idiots. Who doesn't appreciate getting the reward by challenge. They just want's to feel winning without any hardship that would come before that. That's why people doesn't feel the weight of the reward in an easy game and the experience become hollow. Shallow people requires shallow and superficial entertainment. Pathetic.

[@TheMarcodiator]

Oh so many memories. My first online matches with lightsaber dueling, just wonderful. The only small issue I had was with the force speed. It's ridiculously OP. :D You can melt any boss by just force speeding (which slows down the game) and seeing them go in slow motion and delicately chopping off the bad guy's head. :D But it's a really great game nonetheless.

[@mrnobody8475]

Yaay, retro reviews are back. But Mack can you review some old retro titles from your time that you have never tried or missed yourself because when i saw this in my feed i already knew what you are gonna say as you often discussed it in your other reviews.You could try some games that came out from around your time but you somehow missed them. My suggestions are : Vampire the Masquare Bloodlines System Shock Prey (2007) Jade Empire Bully

[@FrontSideBus]

I loved this game soooo much back in the day. The original Dark Forces was one of the first FPS’ I played on PC.

[@lwaves]

Dark Forces was the main reason I bought a PC and ditched my Amiga. Remember the 8Mb expansion card requirement to play it?

[@hankczinaski915]

Probably my top 3 game of all time. That moment when you encounter first Reborn in Bespin...

[@streetwisehercules9956]

The fact fallen order is a poor seriko rip off and not like this or Academy hurts my soul

[@rawsp33d3]

I see you remembered your `g_saberRealisticCombat 1` ;D

[@dklingen]

Thanks for reminding me of this game as it was one of my favorites way back when. On GOG it is $3.49 (so basically free) - even if I don't play it I will always be able to because as you said current games just are not that good anymore. Thanks for the memory!

[@DNH17]

Gog is gonna help gaming get better together with epic competition... steam destroyed everything together withcppl addiction to buy anything and become beta testers forever ... but nobody i see that explains that. Not even mack!!

[@bigdgrant]

Loved this back in the day.The sequel Jedi Academy is not as good but still decent.The original Jedi Knight was one of the main reasons I bought a pc.Brilliant game.

[@lwaves]

Not quite that but Star Wars: Dark Forces was the main reason I moved from Amiga to PC. It required an 8Mb expansion card to run it, the first one that did I believe. How times have changed.

[@OneofInfinity.]

I still have the physical copy, great game that aged like good wine.

[@mystikalmz95]

I saw people complaining about the main character in Jedi: Fallen Knight jumping and rolling during fights but this had it too. I'd give that game a chance esp because the footage was in alpha stages. Hope they don't release it before finishing it. Fingers crossed

[@bradleyadams2241]

The Force is very strong with this one.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

damn right it is.

[@dznuts3286]

Awww yeah Still the best star wars game to this day imo. A shame it got tossed out for flashy follow ups that lasted about 6 hours at best and stripped away all the features that made Jedi knight awesome. Dedicated servers run by the community with a ridiculous amount of game modes and rulesets. The last multiplayer star wars game that had playable Jedi with sabre dueling or all out chaos vs blasters and grenades. It was truly a star wars multiplayer sandbox. A super active modding community. There was no need for dlc back then, there was literally a billion maps, mods and skins. But then the video game industry took a nose dive when it shifted focus to nickel and diming casuals in the living room. And we got garbage like Jedi academy etc. Community run servers are a thing of the past as companies try to lock consumers into their money pit ecosystems. The days of modding and SDK/map editing tools is a thing of the past as these companies try to sell you "content" that was likely cut from the main game. Thanks for the throwback. Loved this game.

[@iCharli92]

Think I’ve finished this game about 12 or more times and double that for Jedi Academy. It has the best lightsaber combat in all the games. Every now and then I just turn that on and play some saved moments in the Jedi Temple vs 4 Reborn robots and hack my way through.

[@eddyfromouterspace7308]

definitely my personal favourite among all the star wars games

[@sekspyras]

Its one of the best games i have ewer played, good job mack!!!

[@ColeEdits]

Well. This was a pleasant surprise :)

[@MrRadialdrift]

I remember playing this when it came out. After 2 hours I thought, this game it shite. Then at 2hrs' 1 min, I got a lightsabre, and the game went from a 4/10 to a 10/10. This has nothing to do with nostalgia, this game is just bloody good. It's in my top 10 of all time games from the last 25 years.

[@lwaves]

That's how I felt for a start. It makes me think of those movies that make you wait until halfway through, before doing the big monster reveal. I pointed out elsewhere that another fantastic moment was when you hear a stormtrooper for the first time, as you walk down a dark corridor. Genuine thrills. Same goes for hearing a probe droid the first time - I ran to hide....err....I mean for cover. :-)

[@quiteliterallytheworst5977]

I always preferred Jedi Knight over this myself, but still a fantastic game. The multiplayer was fantastic. I must have spent hundreds of hours online with this one. I hate the Nar Shadaa level though. It's full of one hit kill snipers.

[@utrak]

oh I remember those bullshit snipers.

[@TiberianGamer]

This is my favorite game of all time , I played it when it came out, and sporadically ever since . Today’s Star Wars games always fail to nail lightsaber combat, but this is the perfect example of that made right

[@taomahNEGEV]

I just wish the developers of Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order played Jedi Outcast and want to make a dame like that.

[@GamesExposed]

you will appreciate the game even more when you discover its multiplayer secrets ;)

[@quiteliterallytheworst5977]

PLEASE do Dark Forces and Jedi Knight also!!!!

[@gilgamesh310]

I finished this game last week. I enjoyed it a lot. But I thought there was some bullshit moments, like snipers being able to get you from miles away before you see them. The level design and puzzles were obtuse at times too. The part where you had to move along a structure that emits electricity was pure bullshit. I played Jedi Academy shortly after this, and found it to make a number of improvements.

[@Williamstanway]

At least it makes you think. I get so frustrated st games these days because you could play them with your eyes closed while having a wank .

[@Williamstanway]

@Guybrush Threepweed loved monkey island games .

[@mason5r]

please do jedi knight jedi academy 1?also have to disagree, im a console player and Iove your reviews. I plan on playing this with controller and it my preference but i think i can still enjoy it as much as keyboard and mouse.

[@TBrianOnline]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who loved this game. Great job, Mack!

[@SDK2K9]

Ah, Jedi Outcast. The game where I found out they still carried on with Dark Forces. First played it on the Xbox, didn't have a PC back when it came out. Great game but it's one tough S.O.B.

[@Droid98765]

Its nice to see thr lightsaber actually be deadly and not just like a stick like it is now in games

[@gyloir]

I loved this game back in the day. Easily the Jedi style game we got out of all the Star Wars games. My only complaint was the melee combat felt too floaty, the way it was designed with the movement keys being tied to combat led to what was known as the "ice skating" effect, where basically visually the combat felt like people were just ice skating around instead of well, looking like a real jedi fight (it's still good, but just could have been better imo). I wish the combat would have been more like Severance, which is one of the few melee action games of that era that solved the whole "ice skating" issue that plagued many great action games with how its controls worked.

[@StrangeDaysGaming]

The bespin city streets with the laser rifle snipers still gives me nightmares.

[@bananomet4052]

Playing Max Payne 2 now, best game i played this year. Edit: aaand just finished it, what now?

[@XiliGaming101]

I loved when you said "WHEN games were really really great", cause that is exactly how I feel about todays games in general. Especially with this game specifically I have SUCH fond memories of it, this vid took me way back to the past, much apreciated :)

[@ShiningOmega]

A couple other things about Jedi Outcast I would want to know if I was considering it after this review: - You keep your full arsenal even after getting your saber/force powers, and bullets/rockets/explosives are physics objects that you can manipulate with Force Push/Pull. Combine that with Force Speed and you can play as a superpowered commando if you want. - There are some massive semi-open world levels in the game too; it's not just linear hallways. - Force Grip at max level lets you move enemies around freely. You can whip them around and fling them away or off high places too. It's not just a slow, passive kill.

[@BuzztronicEmpire]

The Dark Forces games from LucasArts are the best Star Wars games I ever played. Dark Forces I, Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight, Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy... I played these games forever and absolutely loved every bit of it. After finishing JK2 and JK3 I spent hours with the console commands creating these epic custom battles against npcs

[@THEJSB360]

Mack won’t like the fallen order I can see it now

[@NECABANT]

Here's a server list jkhubservers.appspot.com/ enjoy!

[@ParadiseDecay]

Even better with the VR mod!