The BEST Rolex SUPER-CLONE? | This Fake Submariner Is Insane

[@isaiahphoto]

another banger from the wristcheck team 🙌

[@rosomak8244]

It gets to the level where calling them a "clone" is indeed more adequate than "fake".

[@tjlastname5192]

I feel that. It’s like the people making these should just find some investors, so they can hire branding and marketing people to start their own company.

[@hajjdawood]

I call them "real fakes"

[@certainly2509]

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

[@toby1250]

​@@tjlastname5192 yes but...people wouldn't be willing to pay Rolex prices for them...isn't that kind of the point?

[@tjlastname5192]

@@toby1250 the idea is that you could potentially sell way more with a legit business and good marketing. If I could sell 1,000 $200 watches or 20 $2,000 watches, I know what I’d be going with.

[@sutats]

0:50 The etching on the replica looks more like a proper Rolex crown logo.

[@Cougar139tweak]

More proof they will someday surpass the quality of what they are trying to copy....

[@waynemaddams3151]

Great video thank you 👍🏻

[@nitsakalkinis4135]

Do you know where would be the best place to purchase 1:1 clone? Mans and women’s?

[@thebest12700]

@@Cougar139tweak lol this happens with sneakers sometimes. Back in the day you would see rep Jordans with better quality than some real pairs.

[@Martin-pf9zh]

@@thebest12700 Where are the Jordans made though? Oh yeah... China Nike just went with the wrong factory😂

[@johnnyhock]

So, for the amount of microscopic differences between them, would you prefer to pay £500 for the SuperClone, Or £15,000 for the genuine ? Logic says you are paying £14,500 for the name ! My friend in Australia has a genuine Rolex Submariner and recently contacted Rolex about replacing the clasp on the bracelet. Even he was astonished when Rolex quoted him over Au $3000 for a new clasp ! That’s just the clasp, not the bracelet ! Don’t try to tell me that a stainless steel clasp @ $3k is not a rip off ! This is a simple clasp, not a movement ….. He could buy SIX super clones for the price of a gen clasp ! It kinda makes you understand how much Rolex and other luxury brands are ripping off customers, there is NO justification whatsoever for charging such outrageous prices, you’ve just seen for yourself how close these super clones are to the original. Easy to see why there is a market for them

[@chriswhite4915]

The thing is… if you buy a steel watch from an AD.. its made money, so in reality it hasn’t cost you a bean in real terms, if you decide to sell you’ll make money.. your superclone will be worth nothing.. all the while your only fooling yourself wearing fakes.. kind if sad in my opinion

[@conduit242]

I have a DeepSea and the bracelet started shedding pins after years of hard use. They wanted thousands to replace the bracelet. I picked up a 904L clone bracelet for $125 that has now lasted longer than the original. Rolex 🙄

[@AlessandroGenTLe]

@@chriswhite4915 not correct. On rep forum there's a well enstablished exchange of second wrist reps. A good rep may loose around 5% (if's kind of new and not an old model) and up to 40% if it's an old model, but still, we're speaking 5-40% of 350-550$, so who cares.

[@jmpompey1]

@@chriswhite4915 Superclones are great, if you know where to buy quality superclones you can easily get your money back. There's pretty much no watch in the world that retails for £500 that will retain its value 4-5 years down the line.

[@redcars72]

Yeah I'd probably take a 95% accurate super clone for 10% of the cost.

[@Z_question]

Question did you use a different light for the replica? If not then it would be safe to say the crystal has a coating that the camera can see because it's giving blue filter effect when light reflects back off of the watch face.

[@pitervain6644]

I purchased the starbucks about six months ago, I owe few originals (GMT, Aquanaut 5167), I must admit, after getting this rep I don't see the point of buying genuine anymore. This watch is so identical that it would be impossible to spot unless you are very experienced and even then it won't be an easy task, basically impossible unless you inspect the movement it self. The rep in this video is even not that impressive, the bezel color is slightly off.

[@danielrony4169]

Where did you get it from? Asking for a friend

[@pitervain6644]

Correct.

[@danielrony4169]

Thanks! on insta?

[@pitervain6644]

Yes, they have a page

[@markgladston4884]

same here, you can't beat asians haha

[@chaosncheckt9356]

Wow, great video. Inspired me to go dig through an old sock drawer and yep I found it. A knock off Rolex I purchased in 1975 from a street vendor in Seoul, Korean for $10. I messed with it a bit, set the time, placed it on a table and came back an hour later to find it running and keeping time. My daughter walked by and said "Dad, I didn't know you had a Rolex". Honey, it's not a Rolex, it's a Lowlex...knock off. She stood there watching it for a few minutes then turn and said "can I have it"? Sure, now it's her daily wear and she loves it and loves telling folks who ask "it's a lowlex, that's a special brand of Rolex".

[@ainsleyshand7690]

😂 class

[@The_Algorithm_]

To be fair, that knock off is still working nearly 50 years later, and comes with a fun story. I can see why she saw value in it and wanted to wear it.

[@drivefast996]

Buy her a real Rolex, it will set her on a path you'll never forget and she will never forget the path you set her on. Believe me. Spend the money

[@chaosncheckt9356]

@@drivefast996 Nice suggestion

[@1000sofusernames]

​@@drivefast996until she loses it or it gets stolen

[@PerrysTV]

I love the fake to real comparisons. MORE PLEASE

[@CryptoHunter349]

But its shit because they use always bad superclones.. they never use the best superclones from every model and then compare with the original because if the people see how good are the best superclones they get scared.. ah friend from me sell 2 rolex superclones as original to jewerly and the jewelry pay him out they dont see that the watch is ah fake 😅

[@andersmaach]

@@CryptoHunter349 Have you ever noticed, that nobody tell where they bought their superclones...? If they refer to a webside, they are all fake or scam.

[@mikewil7571]

@@CryptoHunter349 I call cap on that last bit. would be nice to see that get proven somehow, sellin' a fake rolex to 1 of those jewers.

[@grragor]

@@mikewil7571What he said is true, in the last 2 years, replicas have gotten extremely close. Most watch dealers can’t tell between the highest quality clones and authentic ones (this has been tested many times, there are videos on it that you can watch) Rolex actually has to slightly alter the details in the models every now and then so that these reps don’t flood the actual watch market.

[@karimsallo]

Like most things in life, it’s all circumstantial. If you make 40,000$ a year and have a Rolex on your wrist, whether it’s a gen or a rep, people will assume it’s a rep. If you’re someone who’s well off and could afford a gen, whether you’re wearing a gen or a rep, people will assume it’s a gen. And of course, it’s not only about what people think. I personally own a gen Submariner and a rep Daytona - because I just can’t get a gen Daytona, not for lack of budget, but they just won’t sell me one, lol. And there’s just a feel difference subconsciously. It’s just not the same. Even though both look and physically feel authentic. Very nice video, thank you!

[@gerardjoaquino8856]

Completely agree

[@sigma_z]

For most people where budget is a constraint (not in your case), wearing a rep and wanting others to believe its genuine will feel empty. Like cheating at a competition because lack of skill. You only cheat yourself in the end

[@jensgronning4436]

If you buy a watch for other people, you’ve already lost.

[@jorberger]

Where did you get your rep daytona?

[@riccochet704]

As someone that owns both a genuine 126610LN and a replica VSF 126610LN superclone I can say that 99.9% of people will not be able to spot the fake. Also to note, anyone that's owned or been around genuine Rolex's knows they are not perfect either. My bezel insert is slightly off to where it does not center up at 12 o'clock on a click. I've seen the rehaut misaligned on genuine watches. Variations in the magnification on the cyclops. Gaps between the bracelet and case. It such that the nuances with fakes kind of mimic the nuances with genuine Rolex's. To really spot the fake requires opening up the case back.

[@irelandrugby12]

Hi, I am looking a super clone watch but unsure where to purchase…any suggestions?

[@schmole]

China

[@brooklynnewyork5255]

The question is why? It’s pointless. You will always know it’s not authentic. And of and when you pass it on, you will be found to be a poser. Wouldn’t it be preferable to look into other brands that make extremely high-quality pieces? There is no shame in that. At least you have some thing that’s authentic to the brand and a very quality piece. Even though it’s not a “Rolex“.

[@riccochet704]

@@brooklynnewyork5255 I wear the replica when I go on vacation. I wear the genuine when I go to business meetings. The rep will get tossed when it ceases to function. The gen will get passed on to my family when I am worm food. I do what make sense to me. Because losing or having a replica stolen in Dominican Republic or Bora Bora means very little to me. You do you.

[@brianhutton2370]

@@brooklynnewyork5255 as someone who owns quite a few authentic pieces... if you want to own a piece, it's a 2-3 year wait (IF you can get it) or a huge purchase history. you want to wear that pepsi clone, go for it man. no one cares but you. if you can live with it, then it's all good in the hood. And people who wear rolex's aren't exactly "watch people" usually, theyr'e bling people.

[@boatscrypto5856]

Where do I get one of these fakes. why would I pay 11k for similar craftsmanship? seems like Rolex is making people overpay

[@OsheenaKnox]

ROLEKANIUM IS BEST SHOP

[@DalianaClay]

THAT WATCH IN VIDEO IS FROM ROLEKANIUM I HAVE SAME FROM THEM

[@NovaGurrola]

THAT WATCH IN VIDEO IS FROM ROLEKANIUM I HAVE SAME FROM THEM

[@吴志明-e8h]

You can contact me. I can get it

[@jow7435]

You can't really compare the two because Rolex has significantly higher costs and entirely different expenses. The main factors that make an original Rolex much more expensive compared to a superclone from China are extensive research and development as Rolex constantly invests in new technologies and designs. Production in Switzerland also comes with higher labor and manufacturing costs. Rolex spends massively on global marketing campaigns and maintains exclusive sales channels. Their corporate structure and management are far more complex, with stringent standards. Additionally, Rolex provides top-notch after-sales service, including lifetime maintenance and repairs. These factors mean that the costs for Rolex are much higher than those for manufacturers of superclones in China.

[@ricardocampos3383]

i will say from what i've seen online, it seems like they are now spot welding the hook on the clasp mechanism, and have improved the rehaut significantly. it's still noticeable with a loupe or microscope but its nearly perfect. still no attempt to mimic a free sprung balance with the over coil or the inertia weights

[@augustortiz]

"They are never going to achieve the same level of accuracy" I wouldn't be so confident about that, I have a feeling this will age like milk. Advancing tech, videos like this, and the fact they are actively attempting to get as close as possible (even on the movements now) means they will be there sooner than later. A few years ago channels like this said they'll never get even close. Now that they are almost impossible to differentiate, The rhetoric has moved to: they won't be able to replicate stuff only visible under a magnifying lens or a microscope. In 3-5 years it'll be: well, replicas can't copy the in-store and service experience I guess (Especially funny considering Rolex are the absolute worst in this regard).

[@MiniDevilDF]

You nailed on the head with the in-store experience. I find it on par with Ferrari, maybe worse.

[@augustortiz]

@@MiniDevilDF id say its more like Porsche at the moment “Ohh, you want this allocation for this extremely desirable car? You gotta have the entire range below it to even have the chance”

[@abitofmymind]

We are gonna get to the point that people ask the question. Why are we paying so much. ??????

[@Mountainmonths]

in 10 years the clones will be better than the originals

[@augustortiz]

@@Mountainmonths i would say this statement is perhaps more true: in 10 years clones will be as good as current models and older refs of brands like Rolex and Cartier. There are watches that are simply too good for them to be viable for the rep makers to fully replicate like Patek and A lange sohne.

[@WristHunt]

The rehaut alignment is a myth. Gen Rolexes more often than not, don’t have a perfectly aligned rehaut. So don’t panic if you see misalignment.

[@moto-moto]

That's exactly what a fake Rolex owner would say

[@Robbe1984]

@@moto-moto 😂😂😂

[@vali69]

​@@moto-motorep owners have more experience than probably even watch experts at telling apart gens from reps from all the time they spend comparing their vsf subs to gen subs. So they also have a lot of experience looking at gens, so I think the guy might be right, look at the video even, the rehaut on gen is not properly aligned too.

[@Ben-gh6oz]

Correct, i have seen many gen subs/datejusts where the rehaut doesnt align perfectly, not a great tell between fake/gen

[@AnaInTh3Sky]

Correct. I have a 100% gen Milgauss and the crown at 12 o'clock doesnt align and it drives me nuts!

[@leonardo3399]

Why would someone get a microscope to test the watch im wearing on my arm?? 😂

[@YxngMalish]

Exactly 😂😂

[@ortontom]

where do i get that rep? ;)

[@anthonyjones6962]

Dhgate

[@Shoppe_Talk]

My question exactly

[@AnarSchism.]

​@@Shoppe_Talk Thailand ( apparently ) 100 bucks.

[@psalm2forliberty577]

​@@AnarSchism. $100 plus Airfare lol

[@davehedgehog9795]

yup@@AnarSchism.

[@jasonkowens6820]

This video has convinced me to get a replica

[@dongshanyiren]

I am a manufacturer of cloned products. Do you want to try it?

[@gtisch183]

@@dongshanyiren. Yes

[@mumm-ratheeverliving2097]

@@dongshanyiren yes.

[@scottiswatchingtele]

@@dongshanyirenscammer?

[@linkdeville9486]

Send the link ​@@dongshanyiren

[@DanielHeck]

This just proves that it is possible to make a cheaper Rolex. There is a curve that says that a product is not 1000 times better if it costs 1000 times more. Everything is limited to small details that don't justify being so much more expensive.

[@stingreen]

Thanks for the update. I now know what to improve.

[@bizmonkey007]

When a “fake” is a work of art in itself

[@johnnyhock]

The SuperClone fakes are so good, There are now factories making fake fakes !! 😂

[@LemtemPoktui]

All watches are a work of art, fake or not. But they're still a fake.

[@AlessandroGenTLe]

@94SexyStang Who is the clown, the one that pays a 1500€ value watch nearly 10 times more so that he can mute his insecurities saying to himself he has "the real deal" while feeding the super-rich swiss corporates, or the one that spend 500€ for something which works the same, looks the same, and use the rest of the money to go on a couple of great vacation with the girl of that one that thought that having spent a lot of money on a watch makes him a better person? :D

[@terrytong8665]

A "real" Rolex is not really that real anyways, when they have to rely on playing mind games to maintain the value of their items. =/ I would respect someone much more who choose a fake rolex just for fun & appreciation, then some insecure dudes who wear " the real deal" and it seriously because it boost his incomplete ego.

[@LemtemPoktui]

​@@AlessandroGenTLe the biggest fool is someone who bought a fake that feeds directly into the chinese mafia syndicate. Even bigger fool if he wears that fake and PRETENDS it's real. Cringe as fuck. If you can't afford a real Rolex, get something lower end. If you wanna get a fake by all means go for it, it's your money. But don't pretend it's something else.

[@felixcato4478]

I bought 7 Rolex clones in Taiwan 3 month ago and they are EXCELLENT .

[@axelwhaitzzz8616]

Enter your bearings :)

[@DeadlyDigger]

To be fair the replica was so damn close and without a genuine sample next to it it’s almost impossible to tell the fake from the genuine. Regarding the movement differences who in their right mind will buy what they think is genuine then pull it apart to confirm it

[@Farlig69]

Well I bloody well would, and if the seller had an issue with that I'd walk away...

[@mashman4876]

If buying a used Rolex, I would make sure to have it evaluated by a jeweler first. Buy even then, someone can replace the obvious movement parts with authentic Rolex parts for about $1500.

[@sharinglungs3226]

If you’re paying a few thousand and you’re unsure if it’s authentic why wouldn’t you get the movement inspected? All you need is to take off the back cover, takes a few seconds to do.

[@pomp4401]

@@sharinglungs3226 Only watch experts can tell. Average people don't.

[@justotalkalottashit8392]

lol if im spending this kind of money on a watch, you best believe that caseback is going to be opened.

[@smartereveryday]

Pretty mindblowing counterfeit.

[@jimmbrooks]

I love watching videos and seeing a post from someone I hold in such hi regard. Hello Destin!

[@ayw5118]

This is the one channel that convinced tens of thousands of watch enthusiasts to go for superclones. I am sure it's not their intention but this is what the channel has done.

[@sigma_z]

I don't think so. It's only separated the ones who like to live like a fake to the ones who are actually wealthy. It's increased the value of the name Rolex and opulent brands.

[@rico-outdoors970]

When it’s got to the point where the differences are microscopic then the fakes have won. It’s all about pride at this point.

[@alex2jz140]

Yeah, he even said the dealers would not be able to tell, at that point it’s not even worth getting a real one.

[@theopavlou7895]

@@alex2jz140yeah totally agree…

[@JavierHuerta]

I have this fake and the real one. I can't tell either one, except for the crystal height. So yeah, one is kept on a safe as an investment, the other is the one I wear. I think that makes the fake one my favorite.

[@alex2jz140]

@@JavierHuerta this. If I had money to buy these expensive watches. I most likely would buy a fake just to daily. It feels cheap and inauthentic to wear a fake one without the real one. But wearing a fake when you own the real one would be different.

[@PATTT_]

where you get the replica asking for a friend lol

[@JonathonBall]

My question is if it's this hard to tell them apart, what is the point of owning an authentic watch?

[@truthserum9157]

The quality isn’t really there, the fake doesn’t have the accuracy, not even close, it’s like biting into a steak that looks good but tastes like crap, and in the end if you have to ask than you don’t get it.

[@JonathonBall]

@@truthserum9157 accuracy? Lol. So it loses a second every 30 years instead of 40?

[@groomys67]

@@truthserum9157' in the end if you have to ask than you don’t get it'. Obviously, that's why he is asking.

[@jordanwalsh1691]

@@JonathonBall He has another video up called "We Spent $1000 on a FAKE Daytona" and the genuine watch gains like 2 seconds a day, whereas the replica loses like 20 seconds. So a big difference, but if you set your replica watch once every three days you're off by a minute at worst. Of course, a Casio quartz watch is much more accurate than even the Rolex, so accuracy is not really the most important goal with these.

[@Jake-bt3fc]

@@JonathonBall These movements break often and they're not worth getting fixed so you have to buy a new one every year, lol. "95% the same watch" is just cope. It only _looks_ 95% the same.

[@YouTalkTv]

how much was this particular replica?

[@dongshanyiren]

1K

[@CoachRandyByrd]

@@dongshanyiren. What brand so I can get one?

[@thetruebatman4632]

I really like this guy’s style. Funny, not over the top.

[@MarcSherwood]

I feel that without having the refrence watch, those small differences would be hard to identity. For example, the sound of the bezel would be hard to identity being too high without the real deal to compare it to.

[@TheConcertmaster]

If one is serious with a watch collecting hobby, then it is a good idea to buy watch opening tools in order to open up a watch (especially Rolex style watches), in order to have a look at the movement, because it is the movement that settles it once and for all if a watch is genuine or fake.

[@MarcSherwood]

@@TheConcertmaster for many fakes that works, yet the newer "super clones" even have very well replicated movements.

[@TheConcertmaster]

@@MarcSherwood true, but the rep makers will never be able to replicate the balance wheel found in a genuine Rolex. It’s too complicated to reproduce, and merely physically copying it is not enough. I mean, they could try physically copying it, but it’s not gonna keep time properly because it needs to be properly calibrated by somebody with an extremely high level of skill. This alone would not be cheap. So they have to resort to a cheap version of a balance wheel that is designed differently such that it is much simpler to calibrate, but keeps time nevertheless. As a result, the balance wheel is the one and only telltale sign that will always remain in a rep watch revealing that it is a rep.

[@tmears11]

@@TheConcertmaster not anymore. there are like 3 pieces you switch with the real because they work in the fakes. then its real. Only you and God can know at that point! And fakes are better than this one. flush sapphire or glass face is on the fakes...they don't all come stuck up. I have a real sub and a fake one. if I drop them on the floor, even taking the backs off I would be able to tell. only reason I know is bc of some minor scratches. I prefer real, but I don't have a guilt for the fakes bc I will tell ppl they are clones if it becomes a topic of discussion. im just liking how I look and like looking at the watch:)

[@alp3781]

I have a replica one, from China. 10 years old, still going strong. Looks so much as the real one, no joke.

[@JoaoSilva22222]

How much did it cost? I am trying to get one.

[@ramocon]

Where did you get it? Any reliable websites?

[@alp3781]

@@ramocon Don't know if good idea to post. So many good one even with reviews, believe it or not. Check blogs for guys who collect them fake one.

[@Superstar49173]

on my genuine submariner, on the rehaut the crown at 12h is not perfectly aligned with the minute marker. did you notice that on rolex models ?

[@dylvasey]

Its not unusual for the rehaut to be off on a genuine Rolex. They are far from perfect ha.

[@mtbbiker6401]

could be the dial is slightly off which can be easily remedied. The misalignment would drive me nuts.

[@cuztm1500]

The crazy thing is... This is not a top tier replica. All the issues he called out are resolved in replicas I have held in my hand. Every time I see one of these videos even a new one like this one, The info in the video is obsolete. The only tell these days on the top tier submariner models is the movement and the floating m on the dial. I think they even finally resolved the space in STEELINOX clasps engraving. IYKYK

[@snackbandit4637]

can you link the place to get better reps?

[@moabdel819]

Correct about the space

[@japcarjunkie]

I would like to know, aswell.

[@R.Tafolla]

Goodness sake someone please

[@andrewa8569]

where is the link

[@samkitty5894]

My reasons for wearing a Rolex like watch: 1) Saving money 2) Good looking 3) Attention getting 4) If I get mugged for it, no big loss 5) I don't take it off when working, swimming, or exercising 6) When I get tired of it, I'll get another...they're cheap enough 7) I am not afraid to wear it. I don't have to control my physical activity and movement protecting some super expensive piece of jewelry. Reasons I hate Rolex: 1) Way to expensive 2) You pay for the name 3) Not for the working man. They would be afraid to put it on. 4) I associate it with upper class of people, the lazy, entitled ones who launder money for living or participate in show business, sport, or politics. 5) People who buy it do it for attention. I offer my personality, character, and morality instead. I also have friends and life...unlike most Rolex wearing folks.

[@2quick24]

And there is no link here anywhere for buying a great Clone! WTF?

[@rays8346]

My Apple Watch Ultra does more for me than a Rolex I can lock unlock my car and see my car status .

[@samkitty5894]

@@rays8346 Exactly. Yet some $ 35,000 Rolex come without a date window. Talk about limited functionality...

[@RepGentlemen]

Great Video! And VSF Submariners are indeed on a different level.

[@TheHelicapt]

Where can I buy this copy version?

[@sapientbudgie5652]

Tell me about it.

[@paulyi729]

Go to Guangzhou China - Huaqiangbei

[@lcat7]

What is a good website for super clone replicas? Anyone have a reputable suggestion?

[@alejandrosexto10]

La mejor opcion es ir a un pais tercer mundista y comprar en persona, si.compras por internet te van a estafar por blanco y por tonto

[@cliffallen4204]

Great video, thank you! I think it seems a lot easier to tell the difference when you have both authentic and replica side by side and can put both of them under a macro lens but sadly it would be a different story if you just handed the replica to pretty much anyone and asked their opinion. Unless an AD has the caseback removed and checked by their watch maker it would probably fool them as well. It probably won't be long before they are able to duplicate the look of the hairspring as well.

[@quadmeister]

Be careful also when you buy A geniune one that they Dont put a fake work inside

[@plektosgaming]

One issue that they will never really be able to replicate due to cost is the edges of the components in the works. Stamped steel has a specific way that the edges look and you can try to polish it out, but it's always there. Similar to how a milled piece just looks different as they can't completely hide the grain of the metal. They can also try to color the spring, but it's similar to comparing fake versus real anodizing. One is a process that you have to do the process and the other.. isn't the same effect. But, yes, 95% of people on the street would not notice. Also, yes, that spring isn't replicated as it's costing Rolex a couple of hundred (their cost) to make. On a $20K watch, that's nothing, but on a replica, $200 and $300 parts add up fast and kill your margins. So I doubt if we will ever see parts like that being coped 1:1.

[@TheConcertmaster]

@@plektosgaming Even if rep makers decided to go all in 1:1 such that they are able to reproduce the same level of quality as that of a genuine watch, they might as well start their own watch company with their own brand at such high level of craftsmanship.

[@TheConcertmaster]

They can try to duplicate the look of the hairspring all they want, but it's the balance wheel that they will never be able to reproduce on a 1:1 basis with Rolex. The balance wheel is what sets Rolex and the reps apart. Probably the only detail that the reps will never get because it requires an extremely high level of skill to get right. It's probably the only component on a watch that you will never be able to copy on a mere superficial basis, but the rep makers are already very well aware of that.

[@blackrifle6736]

@@quadmeister*Good point for purists to consider. I prefer one with a genuine Seiko 41mm movement. Looks right, keeps more accurate time and no more mechanical issues. I had to have mine moded but someone is missing a helluva marketing opportunity here!*

[@eric_in_florida]

Twenty years ago the Folexes were laughably bad and had the feel of a cheap Walmart watch. It's incredible how good they've gotten. At some point they might as well just be considered equals.

[@Yuri231]

Those videos only show us how overpriced the "100% genuine" watches are. Replicas are much cheaper and you need an expert with an microscope to differentiate them...

[@diabolo3506]

@@Yuri231 Rolex made in EU, clones made in China.

[@Vertigo30]

*The copy is perfect for me ! Price and name of the factory, please.*

[@DerpEye]

In short, the only real way to tell the difference, is to look at the balance assembly. And when they'll finally get that part right, there'll be no way, except by maybe using a mass spectrometer.

[@paulwilshire401]

That and when the rep falls off your wrist because the bracelet fails, or it loses 10 mins a day or just stops working. Super Reps are fun but remeber not beer money , i just checked thr CF Daytona is over 800 bucks now.These are probably ex factory at half that with the dealer doubling up You can get lucky and get a 100% reliable 1. I have have a few super reps,.NOOB,VSF BPF , for a few years now, they all have developed issues and some arrived with issues!, all are still wearable though. I also have a few higher end watches, Zenith, IWC, Tag Brietling. The Tag required an entire new movement after a year,luckily the warranty covered. If TAG can't quality control.its not surprising dirty back street factories have problems..Super.reps.are fun, but remember you are probably.helping to finance organised crime, and treat your purchase as fun nothing more. If I added up.all the money I have spent on reps I could.have bought a decent Swiss watch and not that far off a used Rolex..Having said that the rep game have helped me.me.learn which watches I really like and desire, and my Rolex desire greatly diminished

[@ittotaq]

You could just buy the balance assembly and install it.

[@kcnmsepognln]

Or put it on a timegrapher.

[@webcityguymyclubb4032]

Want any “perfect fake” verified - send it to Rolex for a service. You see, Rolex don’t buy the bullshit. It’s not an ego thing, or money thing to Rolex - it is what they genuinely are. A perfect duplicate of your son is a far cry from who and what he genuinely is - you would never love another…Rolex matters to Rolex more than the sum of its parts.

[@mikearkous8379]

How’s the quality long term Of these high end clones? I was at the ad but I couldn’t justify the 9k price tag. I just bought an explorer super clone clean

[@juniortoledo8088]

Great video, the movement finsh, the inertia balance screws for the free sprung escapement rather than regulator pins are the main tell. I have yet to see a review of a replica out of a factory with these features.

[@kedrickswain6509]

china: thank you for the feedback

[@frankreynolds9930]

But it's harder to distinguish without the original side by side.

[@Phaseish]

lol who gives a fuck i can buy 40 reps @ 800 with clean than buy one rolex. lol

[@thomascatt5736]

Very well made and presented video. What I would have also liked to see, is what is the time-keeping accuracy of the replica, and an estimate of how long it's going to last. If these two parameters are comparable for both watches, then I'd say forget about the original with its minor optical differences.

[@tennistron588]

shit on the rep as much as you want, still can't deny how good they are for the money.

[@Jake-bt3fc]

A real 600 dollar watch won't fall apart on you like a 600 dollar fake. If you go to the forums those guys are always complaining about their shitters falling apart, lol.

[@tennistron588]

@@Jake-bt3fc I enjoy Gens and reps, if you know which factory to get from for the respective model, you will be good. I always get the watch serviced, regulated and pressure tested for any rep I keep. Never had a problem with them and some I've had for years.

[@KK879-t5x]

@@Jake-bt3fc please don't spread bs.

[@Jake-bt3fc]

@@KK879-t5x The only watch I've ever had break was the only rep I've ever bought. It was one of the most expensive watches I ever bought too. I've spent a lot of time on r/reptime and I wish I spent more time on there before I wasted my money. I know what I'm talking about.

[@KK879-t5x]

@@Jake-bt3fc n=1. But good story bro.

[@sk3iron]

Unpopular comment: Rolex brought alot of this on themselves; if Rolex didn't have such disgusting wait times and queues for wait lists for a chance to buy one day in the future, this wouldn't have happened to such an extreme to have such a high demand for this level of replica in the market.

[@danieleriksson3170]

This is not correct.. Customers willing to pay $1k for a fake, are not waiting for a $10k authentic Submariner.

[@1Interloper]

There are literally KZbin videos of Customers who bought a fake until they could get their hands on a real one@@danieleriksson3170

[@trailfork7815]

@@danieleriksson3170 the day rolex treated me like shit walking in their store was the day I decided not to spend even a single dollar on them, so yeah if this *fake* has zero difference from the real thing then they can have all my money

[@xXxCatsnakexXx]

@@danieleriksson3170some are though and that’s a fact. People don’t like being told that their moneys not good enough -you have to wait etc etc The same douchebaggery lost Ferrari a lot of customers.

[@БојанПавловић-е3й]

Its because in Rolex they know human nature. If something is less available it is more and more desirable.

[@arrivingarriving5166]

At 2:36 I noticed the off-centred rehaut crown on the authentic watch, it stood out so much to me that when you later mentioned the perfect alignment of the "X" with the 20 marker at 2:48 I started wondering if there was a trick being played on us and that both watches were fakes. That said, the off-centred rehaut crown in that position on the authentic watch would bother me, especially as the later "X" perfect alignment you highlighted appears inconsistent with that ie. shouldn't that be equally misaligned (as it appeared to be in the fake)? Now I'm aware that rehaut misalignment isn't uncommon with genuine Rolex watches, but to me - and probably most casual viewers - it certainly doesn't suggest high quality, plus I can't help but feel that this kind of (avoidable) imperfection must help to make the fakers job easier.

[@thegentlemanplayer9689]

Factory watching video to see how they can improve! 99.9% of people haven't even seen the genuine. The biggest issue isn't the replica. It's making yourself a target for robbery.

[@alexsavutube]

not in Eastern Europe

[@drjoei]

You should have done a weight comparison

[@Kaijuus]

How to check if the bezel is really ceramic?

[@Breca]

I will never look at a Rolex the same again, now I know what to look for. Thank You !

[@tmears11]

the crown in the sapphire at 6 that is lasered in, is done all messed up by hand on the real ones. the fakes have perfect crowns lasered. Rolex said they did it so you could tell. get the rep lol

[@jonathanalaniz946]

@@tmears11 This is true. Another "tell" is if the lasered crown is too easy to see. It's supposed to be hard to find, especially on newer models. Some replica crystals have a larger lasered crown which is also a tell unless it's an older watch. That's why people who own top tier replicas will replace the crystal with a genuine Rolex crystal. This can be done for about $400 and makes the watch damn near indistinguishable from genuine without opening the watch or running the serial number.

[@TravelsoftheCat]

The laser crown on the VSF looks better than the genuine Rolex crown.

[@truxton1000]

Not when you look at it straight down it doesn’t. The photo was from the side, it’s designed to be aligned only when viewed 90 degrees down.

[@MrCollinsOne]

how do you know its VSF?

[@xdragosx]

@@MrCollinsOne q66 serial number, yes its a vsf.

[@stevebohla6473]

Would love to have seen him compare with the clean factory version of this, lol.

[@no0channel0at0all]

vsf is the best right now

[@yambo59]

I see other differences at 6:31, the finish and machine work on the main plates is rough on the fake and theres a noticeable difference in the balance spring jewel mount area.

[@HamishCarpenter]

Is there a reliable online site to purchase a good clone?

[@JohnUSA7]

I too am looking to buy a good Super Clone Rolex but cannot find a reputable dealer. Most dealers are scammers, take your money and never ship you the watch you bought and paid.

[@paulyi729]

Go to China, Guangzhou, Huaqiangbei

[@Pvosinc]

any links for that watch “ asking for a friend”

[@johnmatthews8639]

You won’t regret it! It’s not every day you find a store committed to delivering such high standards on all fronts. Primerolexstore has earned a loyal customer in me!

[@clevelandraney1551]

Exactly! And they have policies in place to ensure you’re confident in your purchase. They made me feel secure in buying a replica, highlighting the craftsmanship and quality.

[@louishiggins5817]

I think I’ll browse their collection tonight. I love that they go the extra mile with customer experience.

[@gilbertlancaster4793]

They really do, and the variety they have is impressive. It’s not just about the quality of the replicas; they also replicate the buying experience of high-end stores. I’m sold on the idea.

[@evefrancis848]

Oh, nice! I've dealt with stores before that were sketchy and non-responsive after the purchase. Good to know Primerolexstore values customer service.

[@Andres_853]

Considering the unique features of the Rolex, acquiring this timepiece involves a different approach than traditional watches. Good thing i have an advisor

[@Muriel-1112]

Absolutely, investing in luxury watches requires a keen eye for craftsmanship and a long-term perspective.

[@hillarybriggs2561]

Please could you recommend one, i would hate to start the hearing meeting the wrong people. Especially in matters like this

[@Andres_853]

CHRIS RYAN STEWART

[@Andres_853]

He act’s fiduciary and i have been using his expertise for years now!

[@Singh11304]

He appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran a GOOGLE search on his name and came across his website; thank you for sharing.

[@asiangadgets1732]

On a waiting list for 4 years for a submariner so although I am against fakes this replica is becoming a very attractive alternative

[@davidmellish3295]

Where do you get the fake from though ?

[@b-radfrommalibu]

​@@davidmellish3295geek time looks like a good place to me

[@asiangadgets1732]

@@davidmellish3295 No idea, just responding to the video

[@merc7paul]

just get a different watch, I have the sub for 6 years now it's overrated there's so much more amazing watches you can get for a price of a fake

[@blackrifle6736]

*Four years? That's a revelation. Hope it was worth the wait. Cheers!*

[@petehamada7073]

Can anyone answer this question for me. Has anyone removed the ban and check to see if there's a serial number on the case between the lugs

[@jfdomega7938]

Not anymore. The new ones have the words (Rolex design) and the model number. Serial number is in the rehaut now!

[@bubbahchops]

There’s an episode of Antique Roadshow where a gentleman purchased a Daytona back in 1971 for $345. Adjusted for inflation that comes to roughly $2,573.00! A new Daytona runs about $35k!!! That’s one hell of a markup!

[@PlutoniusX]

Rolex is a garbage company now. They used to make watches for professionals; now they make watches for playboys and people with more money then they have sense.

[@fvlok]

@@PlutoniusXagree!

[@truxton1000]

Well that’s how it is on lots of things. Also the Daytona from 71 was not nearly as sophisticated as the later zenith one or of course not the new one.

[@PatrykEspinosa]

You can only compare that to its current MSRP $15,100 not it’s resale price but to your point that’s nearly 6x the original cost. We do , however, have to remember that Rolex did not have the same brand cache as it does now and the materials / construction methods were not as refined so some of the increase can be attributed to those points.

[@mandrake8888]

People really don’t know that these top tier factories make this for like 300 bucks the rest is added from middleman (for now you cannot buy directly from factories) if let’s say we ask them to do a double the price version there will be no more differences, plus you can easily add gen parts in and out so this shows you how overpriced is the luxury market from watches to clothes

[@charliesaucedo52]

This sub has to be VSF

[@herewegoagain...]

The first part of your comment is correct, you cannot get these from the factory directly (to my knowledge), but the extra "middleman" cost is what is called profit: because no one works for free. Be it the replica watch market, or literally any other item, the factories that make goods usually do not sell directly to consumers because the logistics of individual sales is not their business. Retailers, no matter what form, offer these factories the service of said logistics... for a fee. And, if the factories chose to take it on themselves, they would also do so for a fee, passed onto the consumer, because, again, no one likes to work for free. There is more to getting an item in your mailbox than JUST manufacturing said item. The second part about what you said, regarding the replica factories ability to make a watch with "no more differences" for $600, or the idea that you can swap out gen parts is... utter nonsense. It might be true for a lot of the watch, but it won't in terms of A) precious materials and B) the movement. The first is fairly obvious, so I'll go into the second: The only reason a replica factory can make a movement that looks pretty close to a real one is because a Rolex 3135 or Omega 8800 are still very similar to the ETA 2824 base in many ways. These factories can make a relatively reliable and accurate ETA 2824 clone because decades ago, for a brief time, ETA outsourced manufacturing to China, and thus they were able to keep the tooling and knowledge of that exchange. But that is all they can do. No one, and I mean no one, is going to be able to build you a perfect replica watch AND perfectly recreate a custom, recent, in house movement for $600... not one that works, anyway. And, no, you cannot swap in a 3135 balance setup into a replica: it will not fit, nor will it work. Now, there is some validity to the statement that luxury items are often overpriced, but not for the reasons you stated. A Rolex, with all of its features, is overpriced at nearly $10k. But, you cannot build that piece for $600 either: it is not possible. $6000? Maybe. But not $600. Now, you can still make the argument that, regardless of build cost, a Rolex simply is not worth it, but that doesn't mean Rolex can magically put together a Submariner for you for $600... they would be taking a massive loss.

[@stevenkelby2169]

​@@herewegoagain...If you think rolex spend $6000 to produce a sub, you're deeply misinformed. It's closer to $600 ex factory.

[@3dservz446]

if u do not mind may I know where I can buy these

[@LemtemPoktui]

@@stevenkelby2169 Yes and no. If you're just comparing material cost, sure, but that's simply incorrect and misleading. Apart from material cost, there are alot more than goes into making a watch. 1. R&D. It cost the replica factories TENS of millions to reverse engineer the Caliber 4130. Now imagine Rolex had to invent that movement by SCRATCH. 2. Manufacturing. This is pretty much self explanatory, manufacturing cost in Switzerland is way, WAY higher than in China. Rolex's tolerances is also way stricter, which produces more rejects. All this are cost that goes into making a high end watch. Fake factories do not operate under such stringent conditions, which is why a lot of fakes breaks down after less than 2 years. Fakes also do not provide warranty, Rolex does. 3. Marketing. The fake manufactures are simply piggy backing Rolex's marketing campaign. Without these marketing campaigns, the Rolex name would've be as sought after. The cost of paying Formula 1, Tennis, Golf etc are upwards of hundreds of millions. All this cost are footed by Rolex.

[@spyketan72]

Scrolling through a few other videos, nothing compares to your video. The indicative arrows while you explain what to spot or compare with SBS image is another big thumbs up 👍

[@jens3545]

The crown on the genuine one (etched into the crystal) looks way worse than the replica one... Interesting :D

[@kimchiwasabee]

That's b.c. it only alignes perfectly when looking straight down at it,90 degrees. It is laser-etched in different dephts/levels.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

@@kimchiwasabee The genuine still looks like crap regardless of how you look at it.

[@mr.stinker9335]

The way you held the watches differently when turning the bezel certainly made them sound different

[@Ooshwink82]

I thought same thing

[@drewspinoso4849]

Where can I get one to inspect for myself?

[@ChinaReplicaWatchesSupplier]

I am a supplier in China, supplying super clones from C factory and clones from VS factory. You can see the introduction on my homepage. Long-term business will never cheat! By the way, please pay attention to the automatic reply scam in the comment area. I hope everyone can buy the super clone they like!😊！❤🎉😊

[@mtbbiker6401]

The rehaut engraving letters not aligned to the minute indices are probably the best and easiest tell without having to open the watch. With that said, that's probably also the easiest for the clone manufacturers to correct with future production. It appears the rehaut crown engraving at 12 is misaligned on both the authentic and clone (@2:37)! Regarding the crystal crown engraving at 6, I've read Rolex engraves the dots at different depths that's why it doesn't appear as crisp as the clone. I suspect the clone engraves each dot at the same depth giving it a better surface appearance (@1:07).

[@sunnypunnia9032]

Crown off at 12 is not a tell.

[@mtbbiker6401]

@@sunnypunnia9032 Are you saying that the rehaut crown engraving at 12 may not necessarily be aligned on the authentic watch?

[@sunnypunnia9032]

@@mtbbiker6401 yes. I have gen with poor alignment

[@sunnypunnia9032]

@@mtbbiker6401 tbf it seems like you say that in your comment but it also seems like you say the opposite, unless i am misreading. Sorry not trying to be a clever cloggs, just making it clear for others. Appreciate your vids.

[@mtbbiker6401]

@@sunnypunnia9032 It could just be the angle of the camera. @2:19 the rehaut crown does look centered but @2:37 it appears to be shifted slightly to the right. Who knows maybe the dial/movement is rotated slightly within the case.

[@wristwatch-trader7237]

Great video on the subject, one of the best I've seen. I'm a watch seller myself, and these days I won't attempt to authenticate a watch "in the field." Example: A friend walks up to me at the poker table and wants my opinion on a piece - unless it's one of those obvious older fakes I'm not going to comment without getting it under a loupe. And to be sure I'm going to have to crack it open. Unless I'm missing something, the most obvious issue with the fake movement is it uses the standard 2892 type double regulator arm setup while the genuine has one newer style regulator arm.

[@abee3515]

Not to mention the stator refliction timer.

[@grayparatrooper]

what website to order?

[@siclusiferx]

Great video, thanks. Do replicas come in 904L steel too? 😮

[@mire4485]

Yes they do. Might as well pay 1/15th of a real Rolex price and not worry about it getting stolen.

[@siclusiferx]

@@mire4485 but the problem is getting a good quality piece without faults.

[@steelsteez6118]

​​@@mire4485lol , yes because the robber will stop to inspect your watch before they stab you 😂. Clown. Or how about you pay 1/15th of the price and get some real and not fake AND not have to worry about getting robbed. Even better. Oh that's right, you're a fake person. My bad.

[@kevinparker461]

@@mire4485 I have a friend with 3 genuine Rolex, he has got 3 exact copies of & he wears them instead of the real ones!

[@porscheoscar]

Excellent. Definitely ordering my Grand Seiko peacock now. At least everyone doesn't immediately assumes it's a fake because 9 out of 10 Rolex in public including red carpet are indeed fake or Frankenstein Submariners.

[@inova11901]

Bought my GS from a reputable dealer. I KNOW 100% it's legit. The craftsmanship would be near impossible to fake. And yet, I like watching these videos for some reason.

[@stevenkelby2169]

No one even tries to fake a spring drive because it's not possible to fake, unlike Rolex... You know there's true value in that!

[@mariosandoval9257]

The sound that comes when you turn the wheel is so satisfying!

[@spacejaime]

The crown laser etching on the clasp on the replica is visually different from the authentic Rolex. Great comparison, thanks!

[@volvo24091]

Better on the clone

[@tmears11]

@@volvo24091 intentionally done that way by Rolex to use to tell the difference...which isn't impressive for Rolex.

[@TheAdventureLoungelehm]

Crazy how some of the finishing looks even better than on the gen.

[@JavierHuerta]

I thought I was the only one who saw that

[@SteelBlueVision]

At 4:10, compare the sharp triangles at the end of the hour hands, in particular the shape, symmetry, and size of the little white triangles embossed in them - a very obvious difference between real and fake. I can't believe they went to such length to get the font, kerning, and leading of the text to be correct, only to miss on something as obvious as the shape of the relatively simple hour hand.

[@MusicianGreg]

Exactly what I was looking for, very informative. Thanks for the effort put into this vid.

[@sigma_z]

Very informative video. I will never buy a replica because it's like cheating in a competition. Although there may be other reasons to buying opulence, buying a Rolex should be when you really can and not pretending to. It's an empty feeling winning a competition when you know you've cheated and do not have the capacity to win without cheating. About the differences of bezel rotation, at 1:28 I'm a musician, previous concert pianist and now do studio recordings and there was no difference in sound, only placement of microphone. The pitch was almost identical. One just sounded muted or further away from the microphone than the other.

[@alanmckinnon6791]

Seen a few of these videos now, and the fakers are getting very very good. Every video I come to the same conclusion - the only reliable way to tell is to remove the caseback and observe the balance. Maybe there is a quick & easy check of the clasp but the balance is the only thing they will really struggle to get right

[@dylvasey]

Absolutely. I see at least two or three of these a month. The balance is exactly what you need to look at.

[@slashdotism]

And even that isn't a 100% sure way of checking it as you can buy a balance complete for a 3235 for about $700-$900 and just swap it in. Now you have a fake movement with a genuine overcoil hairspring and a balance wheel with counter weights. It all fits in the DD3235.

[@Chris11249]

Naw, the obvious blue tint on the cyclops gets you 90% of the way there... Modern gens barely have that AR visible, and vintage subs don't have any. If someone changes the crystal for a genuine, I guess that can be faked, but that takes some dedication and is such a watch nut that I'd respect him lol

[@---ny4ys]

@@Chris11249 to change a crystal? mate thats not even hard to do.

[@Chris11249]

Hard for me, I have no idea to do it. And I wouldn't bother to pay a watchmaker to do it. Also it would probably lose whatever little water resistance it had to begin with in case the size is a bit off? Like I said if someone is that dedicated, good for them and their fake watch lol @@---ny4ys

[@3nov3]

Where can I buy such a replica ?

[@khurramsiddique6489]

where can I buy the super clones ?

[@SparklyBird]

It's sad that watches that look good cost over 1k+. This replica is REALLY well made, and it just shows how a brand name on a watch can make its price 10x higher. I understand that if you look under a microscope, you'll find the difference, but just how many of you really inspect a watch at that level when you see someone with a watch?

[@skylineuk1485]

It won’t be keeping time to within 1 sec although. Rolex are about twice over price but in reality a Sub is a £4K watch all day long for a 5 year warranty and 10 year service interval for an everyday wearing watch.

[@ternerpr22]

That's why I buy Tudor. Rolex quality 1/3 the price

[@nickmanhota324]

​@skylineuk1485 rolex are like out by 3 to 6 seconds a day unless its serviced regularly fml.

[@skylineuk1485]

@@nickmanhota324 none of mine are out by that much, all within 2 seconds and also the Tudors too. I have an old Tag Link Chronometer and it’s only 1 second out. The Seikos are near the 20 seconds mark and even other COSC watches I own are nearly always 4 secs or so out. So Rolex are VERY well regulated but the price point is probably 2x over what they should be, mine are all AD purchases although so no crazy flipper prices.

[@oftenwrongphong]

@@nickmanhota324 I always thought it was 4-6 if properly maintained/regulated. Still sucks compared to a $30 quartz watch, but that's not why we buy expensive watches :).

[@ΝικοςΣοφικιτης-λ9φ]

Fake Rolex is basically exactly like the real one minus some very small differences that you wouldn’t even notice with naked eye

[@Jake-bt3fc]

You notice when the movement stops working or the hand falls off like it did on mine, lol. I paid a guy 80 bucks to put it back on and it just fell off again so I threw it in the trash.

[@ΝικοςΣοφικιτης-λ9φ]

@@Jake-bt3fc it depends on how much you paid for there are replicas with 1k and there are others with 50 dollars you get what you paid for

[@Jake-bt3fc]

@@ΝικοςΣοφικιτης-λ9φ It was a bp. They're supposed to be the best $300-400 clones you can get. People gush over them in the forums.

[@Jake-bt3fc]

@@ΝικοςΣοφικιτης-λ9φ I obviously wouldn't pay $80 to get a $50 watch fixed, that would be stupid.

[@iamcassilis4085]

@@Jake-bt3fc factory? TD?

[@Bigpop82]

I'm just getting into Rolex watches and I've known that there are tons and tons of copies but wow, they sure do make it difficult on a newbie lol thanks for sharing, liked and subbed, fantastic content!

[@davesway1170]

For how close the replica is, it shows how much Rolex is ripping people off

[@billmorrigan386]

Yeah, it's overhyped. It should cost no more than 50% of what it actually costs. I don't even like this brand.

[@nuggyfresh6430]

I love it thanks. Can I make one small request/suggestion? The replica market changes quickly, it's actually pretty fascinating, anyways could you please list the replica factory and model in your video? I do understand the ethical concerns, but the market changes fast and you are probably comparing a model that has already been upgraded, so it's just confusing, anyways thanks!

[@meia212]

Did you get the answer?

[@quocd5580]

Where can i buy the "Folex" ?

[@ChinaReplicaWatchesSupplier]

I am a supplier in China, supplying super clones from C factory and clones from VS factory. You can see the introduction on my homepage. Long-term business will never cheat! By the way, please pay attention to the automatic reply scam in the comment area. I hope everyone can buy the super clone they like!😊！❤🎉🎉❤❤

[@MrAbdul-uf9ug]

With 3d scanning, 5 axis CNC machining and UV-LIGA technologies it has become easier to replicate any watch they even can make a free sprung balance wheel instead of regulated wheel but they don't want to exceed their price target limits

[@PerKolind]

I wonder how good reps are in like 10 years.

[@MrAbdul-uf9ug]

@@PerKolind is not about capability it is about the cost limit , they can replicate the same free sprung wheel of genuine Rolex but that will be costlier, so instead they make regulated spring wheel

[@plektosgaming]

@@MrAbdul-uf9ug Absolutely. Seeing that Patek clone he just posted - fast forward to 6: 40. They can't replicate deep engraving and 24k gold filling like that and stay on budget. That right there is probably their entire budget to replicate. So they went with a silkscreened replica of it.

[@MrAbdul-uf9ug]

@@plektosgaming no they did it for the mod version of 5712, with deep engraving true free balance wheel and 21k gold rotor but it is cost 3000 $ , he might shows the standard clone not the Mod one

[@plektosgaming]

@@MrAbdul-uf9ug Oh, I'm sure they can make a proper clone, but my point is the cost is usually prohibitive to do all of these changes. Spotting fakes isn't too hard, since like he said, if one part is fake, the rest of it is as well. The market for a $3000 clone is extremely limited as well, since anyone who can afford a $3000 clone can also afford the real thing and will simply buy it. On the other hand, yes, I agree with you about him also protecting his own industry because he's not going to probably show the best clones. The Swiss industry has huge markups, a bit like the precious stone industry, and needs to come down a lot on their prices. For instance, a basic entry-level Rolex should cost, based on inflation and previous models from the 80s with similar technology, about $4K. There is a notable up-charge happening, as well as dealers being outright buttheads.

[@alfrede.newman1838]

WOW, it's getting so close now to the original you have to ask yourself the question 'so just how much (R&D aside) does it cost Rolex to make a watch these days?'. Yes, R&D can be a big expense BUT Rolex (like BMW) has been making a lot of the same iconic products for years (and some for decades) now so it's probably fair to ignore R&D as it's been written off the books by now I'd have imagined. DISCLAIMER: I am NOT condoning any illegal practices.

[@Rabauke2.0]

But they keep researching and developing, right? So, can you really say, that once a movement has been developed, there are no more costs in further developments? If the movements would not be updated or constantly made better, I would agree. But it’s not the case. What many people don’t see, is that nearly with every new launch there are improvements mainly in the movements. Not so much in regards of looks.

[@alfrede.newman1838]

@@Rabauke2.0 It probably depends on how Rolex wants to do its accounting but there's 'marketing research' and there's 'technical research'. Often BIG development costs happen either with the initial product release or some MAJOR new release as in something more substantive than a strap or dial color change where movement doesn't need some major rework. The year-to-year evolutionary changes to some watches do not seem to call out for major technical budgeting, but more focus group marketing budgets which often itself is a recurring BIG number; advertising, ...

[@alfrede.newman1838]

@@Rabauke2.0 PS. yes, I'd think a major change with a new movement could require some new budgeting BUT (and I'm a little out of date with the latest Rolex movements) a simple Rolex movement is often used in multiple different watches?

[@freundlichermensch7540]

I would argue, that R&D even when it costs money, is by far not as expensive as they try to convince you. Rolex does not publish their Costs/Books, but in other Industries such as pharmaceuticals Companies, have to go through a lot of steps in their development and even they spend more on Marketing than on R&D, so... i highly doubt that R&D is significant cost for a luxury brand such as Rolex, because their most valuable asset is not the product it's the prestige/ their brand image.

[@alfrede.newman1838]

@@freundlichermensch7540 Any 'luxury brand' usually will spend way more on branding (advertising, sponsorships, merchandising, ...) than it takes to design and make the product itself. Without the Rolex name, would many people who know next to nothing about horology buy a Rolex? There's a lot of good watch engineering out there in the world IMHO.

[@motorsrex8962]

I have a question, is the crystal sapphire and is the water resistance the same?

[@jupitereye4322]

One thing I can't get over is the watch accuracy. You pay 5-10k and yet a 150$ Casio is more accurate.

[@merc7paul]

There's high end quartz movements for accuracy snobs which I am one of, also paying $150 for a casio is a bit steep

[@jupitereye4322]

@@merc7paul Let me say that Grand Seiko is absolutely worth it and is very accurate, and in fact I think that is pretty much the only watch in that 5-10k price range that I would like to own and wear personally. There are other watches I like but those would be more like investment, and I am not an investor. And also, when I mentioned Casio, I really meant G-shock. :)

[@borjastick]

I've got the VSF factory clone of this exact watch and can tell you it is amazing. On mine the sapphire glass is as low or nearly as the real version and the general fit and finish are great. I love mine and yet still want to buy a genuine one but dealing with ADs is for the most part very painful. They are superficially nice to your face but you then hear nothing ever again from them. That is why clones exist. Oh and I will buy another clone because Rolex makes life too hard for normal watch lovers like me to buy one with my hard earned cash.

[@SESSION.in.PROGRESS]

Where did you get yours?

[@daniblue121]

W2C?

[@makingcookingfixing]

where did you get yours?

[@rickywynn9758]

Where did you get it?

[@makingcookingfixing]

@@rickywynn9758 yeah I want to know to, pls send a link

[@exoticflorida2360]

There’s a feeling you get when you put on your real Rolex. It reminds you of all the sacrifices and risks you’ve taken in life to get to where you are. I’d have to imagine while wearing a fake you’re constantly living in fear that someone wearing a real one or with a keen eye will compliment you or ask to see it. Ladies, if your man wears a Rolex and you want a good read on his character watch this video and check out his watch. “Fake it till you make it” is a lifelong pursuit and spills into other aspects of life.

[@ricwhk]

Great video. Besides all the differences you said, I think the fake submariner doesn't have the same water resistance as the real.

[@AlessandroGenTLe]

I have a tester that goes up to 6bar (60m deep). Mine passed with flying colors... More than enough for me, and since they're both made similarly (steel, rubber, nylon gasket for the crystal, triple lock on the crown) I bet they can do comparably with the gen, which no human even need...

[@ubeuonly]

Nor would 99.8 percent of users ever need to question

[@donblade5405]

You are 💯 correct. No where water resistant to a gen .. I have bought many top reps and some have case backs loose. Always spend 200 and have a watch guy service it before water

[@StaceyandTheBeard-li5oo]

I think the question everyone wants to know is, where did you get it from???

[@jerryspringer8194]

China 😂😂😂

[@paulyi729]

China, Guangzhou, Huaqiangbei

[@peterRobinson10101]

which factory is this rep?

[@fishingbob8374]

Problem with a fake Rolex is, it will still get you robbed. 😂

[@sigma_z]

Better wear a CASIO. Luxury brands were created to take money from the poor who thinks that wearing a Rolex will make them fit into the rich society. It doesn't.

[@badonkadonkskidz]

So this replica is roughly $550usd. Thats a lot of reps for the price of “the one watch.”

[@e30gangsta]

Is it a noob watch?

[@badonkadonkskidz]

@@e30gangsta VSF

[@garydorfner6695]

Question. Do they look at how each keeps time?

[@Sumofallfears]

Just bought a Submariner from Geektime for around $500,-. Its beautiful. But a fake Rolex doesnt give you the feeling of wearing a genuine one. Thats what I miss.

[@ubeuonly]

This is a disease for which there is no cure. Sad for u

[@Billiehoyle]

Geek time is a scammer site and you’re an accomplice

[@blackrifle6736]

*Pimping is never a good look. Replica-Watch disagrees with your assessment. As do I.*

[@TrojanStarryNight]

I hate to say it but the external Replica looks better.

[@baze3SC]

I find the comparison interesting as it provides a rough idea of the actual cost of producing such a watch. However, I struggle to understand the mindset of people who wear replicas.

[@FXSTB-i]

These superclone vs genuine Rolex watches are laughable. People desperately trying to justify crazy money for a 'wristwatch'. I've wasted tons of money on genuine luxury watches. That's right, wasted money on snobbery. I now wear a Seiko. Does it all.

[@TheOne-jw6dr]

Anyone know where to buy the clones??

[@stallion78]

Dh gate

[@Only-Bans]

I wanted to adjust the time on this Rolex but sort of pulled the pin out... Now its back in, and i can change the date and time but it doesent run anymore. What do i do?

[@Only-Bans]

I have the exact same...

[@Only-Bans]

Is it fixable, and how much would it be? My guess is that a spring got pulled lose.