Safety Inspectors Crash The Shop! (no more kilts?!) S6E15

[@apocryphgaming9995]

So, hot tip, just sayin': If/when an actual OSHA inspector arrives: Give Doug some crayons; keep him well away from them!

[@purplepenguina.k.a.burlyma6845]

So God damned true.

[@cainryder3087]

Dont give him crayons those might be too sharp for OSHA.

[@IIthisIIguyII]

I've been told that if OSHA shows up on the jobsite, just go home. Full day's pay, just go home.

[@nathantaylor4942]

hey wyrmwood this is good advice

[@johngriffon2118]

seriously. i like Doug, and i like what alot of what he thinks..... but jesus christ he is an OSHA nightmare and wet dream rolled into one.

[@00dmb5]

Coolest safety guy I've ever seen, he's actually fun and memorable, while educating.

[@tharrock337]

Last statement is still pretty bleak. You just know he hates it as much as doug does but he has propably seen this before: If you don't document it you didn't do it. What a sad story. And that propably boils down to what he mentioned earlier. OSHA is insanely understaffed so they cannot do an actual evaluation. They have to have somehting you can put in numbers so the documents are the only way for them.

[@social3ngin33rin]

That's because he's there for a rare preliminary inspection, and not an inspection on behalf of a court hearing lol

[@PorkYoSelf]

Most of the safety guys I have met are like this one. My company had an OSHA and PR nightmare and we got to meet a ton of safety specialists and even the rare OSHA inspector. Out of the 20 or so I dealt with personally, only 2 were tightwads. One was OSHA and a real pain in the ass. The other was just no nonesnse, there to do his job, to the letter of the law.

[@hennysaud4867]

Y'know, Wyrmwood could use a Public Safety Officer that speaks their English right about now...

[@_stonhinge]

I think a large part of it was the fact that he's there pre-emptively and conditions are already good as opposed to "hey, we're getting sued and need to get our crap in order in two weeks"

[@kelm102]

"You can't put it out if it don't fuckin' work!" is the most New England sentence I've heard in a while. This guy's great.

[@AwlBeefPatty]

Sounds like prior military to me! I know I've said nearly those exact words on occasion.

[@alexanderherrera4432]

"We're in our fourth quarter. We don't give a fuck" - The grandpa we all need

[@googs197]

I literally lol'd at that line.

[@acedaryl2]

Had a job once where a small fire broke out. I ran for the extinguisher in the break room, and it was no where to be found. I put out the fire with the water cooler jug. Someone had hid the extinguisher behind the garbage can. That said, get those things mounted and charged.

[@matt-lang]

Yep, worst feeling ever when you try to use an extinguisher and nothing comes out. Thankfully have only had to use them when a vehicle test went bad and we had to put out an oil fire, but we had two extinguishers and only one of them ended up working properly. If it had just been the one, we would have lost the car.

[@shellegriffin]

I was in the Navy and doing DC work. Well one of the things we did was recharge the extinguishers. I was a second class IT guy and on temporary assignment in this division. Everyone else working with me was of lower rank and they too were on temp assignment from their parent division. So while I was getting trained on filling these I asked why so many were not full. I was told the guys do a shitty job and they don't need to use it. I made it my mission that all of the bottles would be filled correctly. Lives are at stake not just those pulling the pin.

[@ScytheNoire]

Doug is really enjoying this too much. Jason looks like he's already got an ulcer.

[@Endrid_Wintersbane]

Yeah, Jason makes a good point though. Doug did essentially toss a hand grenade into the room a bit and leave Jason to the cleanup. Can't imagine the dude is having an easy time of it at all. Especially with Doug griping about how he feels he safety regulations are dumb. I like Doug but I'm starting to think he needs to keep those thoughts in his head.

[@BTolputt]

@@Endrid_Wintersbane Agree completely. When Doug quit as he did, people were trying to defend him as having done it maturely. I think his continued hammering on the issue (and the way he's going about mocking OSHA on the channel) is childish. Especially now he won't wear any backlash.

[@Endrid_Wintersbane]

​@@BTolputt I think the meeting was pretty mature and the best way to do that. He did say some things that were iffy but I think that was a good way to address everything. I agree with how he always brings it up and the mocking is silly though and I think the safety inspector was uncomfortable with it and I'm glad he hammered down on certain points. Especially the point at the end with paperwork.

[@BTolputt]

​@@Endrid_Wintersbane Having the meeting was mature. Saying some of the things he did in that meeting was not. Kind of like saying sorry for an insult is mature, but if you complain about having to do so in that apology, you render that maturity invalid. Same principle. And with the way he goes on (& on) about his feelings about safety & the law, if OSHA ever does decide to pop in for an inspection, Jason would do well to give Doug some crayons, a new "My First Libertarian Rant" colouring book, and lock him in his bedroom at home until the inspection is over.

[@bethanymcmullen7429]

I'm also not in love with the way he called one of the workers who he didn't name a narc in this one, certainly not a great way to bridge the gap between the workers and the upper management that he knows is there and talked about.

[@frog48]

All that documentation is the definition of "pics or it didn't happen"

[@displeasedsociopath5939]

Best safety inspector ever.

[@Skeezik1998]

I agree. He wasn't a jerk, but he was honest on how things needed to change.

[@displeasedsociopath5939]

@@Skeezik1998 Yeah I agree. He was honest, informative, and he let everyone present and viewing in on how idiotic legislators are in doing their jobs correctly. It's unreasonable, impractical, and unethical to expect companies to self regulate. A three watchdogs cannot guard 3,000 hen houses from foxes. It's lunacy.

[@Skeezik1998]

@@displeasedsociopath5939 I think it has less to with legislators doing their jobs correctly or not than it does with establishing clear and present safety requirements. If those safety requirements are followed, the company shouldn't be in danger. If they aren't, the company could be.

[@Skeezik1998]

@@displeasedsociopath5939 but I see your point

[@rmorganslade]

This was a fascinating episode, but without the documents it didn't happen

[@bunker1213]

You just watched the documentation! 😁

[@allenwand2818]

Lol you wrote in the comment sounds like documentation of you viewing lol

[@inigomontoya4109]

That's the business world, documentation is real, everything else is a nice idea. Besides for safety it puts everyone on the same foot.

[@PTPVods]

'Hey, see that guy over there? We had him cracking whips a little while back. Is that safe?'

[@chrismanuel9768]

It's okay, he's a trained expert

[@biancabrooks280]

@@chrismanuel9768 but is he DOCUMENTED?

[@IIthisIIguyII]

That website showing the manufacturers in Massachusetts looks like a website I made for a 6th Grade Science presentation on WebTv in 1999.

[@psycho_cazza2885]

I also didn't see Wyrmwood on there.

[@JelenedraKTulsa]

Documentation: Processes written and on file on how each set of equipment is to be used and then acknowledgements from each employee that handles that equipment. This is the kind of thing a HR department would be responsible for. I have to write the documentation for the compliance department at my job. Familiar territory. Another way to look at it is this: If someone gets hurt on the job. An insurance company may not want to pay out money to help them. BUT if you have documentation on how the equipment was to be used and they were following all the protocols (hearing protection, sleeves down, covered legs, etc) and their acknowledgement is up to date, then they have no recourse BUT to pay them. When you don't have that, the insurance company can decide that you sanding METAL AND WOOD.... TOGETHER? is crazy pants and not pay out. Yadda yadda. Ask Frank, I'm right. :p

[@AwlBeefPatty]

My love of documentation comes not from developing it and maintaining/retaining it, but from being able to look someone dead in the eye as they tell me I'm not following rules and being able to directly reference our black and white paperwork to give a respectfully delivered and well documented middle finger. Documentation gives such spite-fuelled power when wielded correctly!

[@elylozada9576]

I'm such a fan of the HR Wyrmling fans

[@lisarenee3505]

Haha, like Wyrmwood has insurance for their employees!

[@Verity_Reigns]

I seriously support an episode where all of Wyrmwood’s outside advisors just do a Q&A because all the people you bring on are interesting and informative and I bet it would be awesome

[@lanehillard1596]

This!

[@vhierta8723]

5:50 is no one going to say that Wyrmwood wasn't even on that list they showed so imagine how many more there are that's missing from that list....

[@oKnASty10]

The issue with noise canceling earbuds or headsets when working with large machinery isnt necessarily just for your safety. If someone gets caught in a machine and screams for help and you cant hear it thats bad news. Also if your working in an area where machinery is moving such as forklifts you cannot hear it. The policy ive run into everywhere I go is if a supervisor calls your name from the nearest designated path and you do not answer its too loud and you get a strike. 3 strikes and you lose the privelige. Steroes and radios are a good option as well.

[@garret1930]

If I can't hear anything anyway because the machines are 94 db then I'm not hearing you whether I've got hearing protection or not.

[@MaxGriffinJames]

@@garret1930 active hearing protection can block dangerous sounds and amplify voices. On the pricey side though.

[@NinjaNinja594]

@@MaxGriffinJames verified

[@CptFUBAR]

I have a question for anyone reading this, don't noise canceling earbuds / headphones produce an opposing sound wave, which will then cancel out the sound? wouldn't that mean your ears still receiving the same amount of decibels, but you can't hear them because they're a net-zero waveform?

[@HighInquisitor35]

@@CptFUBAR the way that works is net-zero is zero, it doesnt act like 2 waves hitting you but 1

[@d20_dave53]

Jason's grenade analogy: Truer words have never been spoken. Answering the question: More safe. But I'd be curious to know precisely what workers had a problem with, because honestly I'd trust the actual workers' opinions on safety more than a random inspector anyway.

[@winningsince1992]

Random inspector is giving the law.

[@TealVelvet]

i disagree, obviously the worker may be doing something dangerous but if nothing has happened to them, then they will say that it's all good, when everything else would say "hey... don't do that"

[@JustinSmith1287]

Surprise, most inspectors have a lot of experience in the field and know what they're talking about.

[@d20_dave53]

@@TealVelvet You've got the situation and meaning of my comment backwards. The employees literally signed a letter complaining about safety. If the inspector says, "This is all fine" but the employees say, "This isn't safe".... then I'm going to trust the experienced employees on the floor.

[@dehro]

@@d20_dave53 I'd wager that the inspector will be talking with those employees. they usually do and don't just walk around with a clipboard without asking questions

[@LostnWings]

I really like this safety dude. He's honest, 100%, as well as having a hilarious sense of humor.

[@susandeath0813]

For the record, OSHA doesn't just cover manufacturing. It basically covers anywhere people work. Retail, offices, theatres, everything.

[@ianbelanger7459]

As US companies haven't trained managers since the early 1980's, it's not surprising that few people know the reason the middle manager job was created. Department heads are there to take some of the stress out of doing paperwork and writing process documents. In some companies, they may be an impediment to growth or a healthy work environment, but that is a failure of the senior leadership and corporate culture not an inherent property of the guy writing things down. If you want a company that is compliant and happy, promote and hire good managers, while rewarding them for innovation and safety. The company culture is a function of what senior management rewards as reflected by the middle managers it keeps. Tldr: it isn't hard to do paperwork you just have to tell the employee why and pay them to do it

[@inigomontoya4109]

That's the thing that infuriates me about doug, these positions are built not just for liability but for effective and efficient growth and scaling of a company. HR doesn't exist because "o we are afraid we will get sued" they exist because it allows you to bring in and retain talent by taking care of the logistics involved with a full compensation package and letting people like doug/Jason/founders focus on growth sectors and other things instead of dealing with things like payroll. Middle management isn't there just as another level of people to employ but as people who can manage teams and projects keeping them on time and productive. Not because of whip cracking but by managing their teams time and focus ensuring an employee isn't getting pulled in 30 different directions. Wormwood is neat and I love the guys but holy fuck they need actual business leaders in there to streamline their entire ORG, because growth and sales hide a lot of shit in companies.

[@ianbelanger7459]

@@inigomontoya4109 all true. The trick is three fold. One, it is a totally different leadership challenge. A tribal leader that knows everyone is using a different skill set than a leader using bureaucracy to manage a corporate nation. Two, managing those middle managers involves sharing power. Talented manager expect a level of autonomy relative to their responsibility, which means senior leadership has to communicate and trust. Three, managers in light of thier rarer skill set expect either greater pay or equity because thier skill is portable, which creates the issue of giving them enough work to make it profitable, while paying enough to keep them until the company grows.

[@literallycanadian]

You the one of the biggest things I agree with the most, is no earbuds on the shop floor. If and when something goes wrong, you want to know, and you want it to be very clear. If you got music playing just a bit too loud and someone yells watchout, and you get pegged by a 2x4 getting thrown out a table saw there is a problem. Like I understand, it can be rought working away listening to nothing but the drone of machinery, and in some ways that is almost an issue aswell, but if you can't hear if someone yells for help when there is an accident there is a big problem.

[@ramirezthale]

The same shit can happen with ear plugs as well

[@Primal2229]

Working a tree farm Id load flats of trees onto a roller belt (non motorized) and pick up filled boxes to put on a pallet. 8 hours doing the same very simple tasks. Music allowed me to focus and pay attention. When I was told it wasn't allowed thats when I'd zone right out and start tripping over the floor mats. It should be one of those safety things they look into because where I worked I was that if you have music on you cant hear the bobcat. But they were totally okay with regulation ear protection... where you definitely don't hear the bobcats. Kind of a bit of double standard bullshit. Also thats the best possible safety inspector Wyrmwood could have hoped for. Relaxed, sense of humor and understands situational shit

[@apazman123]

THIS IS THE MOST HILARIOUS INSPECTOR! Bring him back!

[@choochoobob123]

He's got like 200 more manufacturing facilities to look at!

[@SerLizar]

@@choochoobob123 this guy is private, they can keep him coming back as long as they pay, the ones that work for the state are the ones that have a loooong list

[@MaxGriffinJames]

Maybe it's because the USA is more litigious than the UK. But here I've always seen the role of auditors and inspectors as collaborative. They are there to help your business improve. They aren't the devil unless your reckless and uninterested in improving.

[@soapboxk2203]

I don't have a ton of firsthand experience but my understanding is unless your business or shop is really, really bad, it's much the same here. They'll come in and do the tour with management, find the issues and basically give the company a checklist of things to fix and setup a follow up visit in a reasonable time frame. There are some regs that are super serious and can shut down work until complaint, but there's also plenty of relatively small stuff that gets thrown on the "honey do" list for the company.

[@georgenehme4299]

Then: Doug said he doesn't want to be the guy spearheading these changes. Now: Doug in the entire episode spearheading safety regulations and questions. :shrug: don't tell doug!

[@badmintongrrl]

Oh man. Idk what Cesia is gonna get tatted with, but it’s gonna be really cool and real nerdy

[@skeebob]

Not gonna be a tat, gonna be an inlay.

[@badmintongrrl]

@@skeebob oh hell yeah! More painful, but arguably more worth it

[@AdrianPaneto]

safety guy: "There not here to have fun, are they?"

[@LittleQueue]

@juancgutro this guy. This guy fucking gets it

[@MisterTingles]

what are guys watching this channel for, if not to see these people having fun while they're on the job? buncha killjoys in these comments lately...

[@jacobmontgomery1879]

@juancgutro Happy workers are more productive. Jobs don't need to be miserable to be done right.

[@SpyderHelix]

God damn some of you people can be fickle as fuck. Like them, don't like them, appreciate them, demonize them all weeks apart. Why do you even fucking watch the channel? Free shit? 🙄

[@sirken2]

I mean isn't the goal to never "work a day in your life?"

[@iggy880]

I love that somehow you guys managed to get an inspector as interesting on camera as you guys. Also, he confirmed the fact of Doug not being wrong, but also very not right

[@michaeljames1593]

12:57 "People like me, we're in our 4th quarter, we don't give a fuck" Best inspector ever.

[@biancabrooks280]

“Without the docs it doesn’t count” Pics or it didn’t happen Dougie.

[@ilionblaze]

Doug's reaction is so immature. And reminds me of the general behavior of other startup founders I've known.

[@jcbass2u]

As we Say at work, "If it isn't written down, You didn't do it."

[@alvarovieira5683]

The "inspector" is a really chill dude

[@SlipsJDR]

I never expected to hear Blessed Be on here so I love you guys even more now.

[@jmandab0143]

Safety guy seems cool. Frank 2.0

[@EternalNewb]

Ok, we need more of the safety guys. I'll bet they could use the laughs, and they clearly know the audience! :P

[@bkstaxman]

OK, this was a great episode. I was already totally on board...and *then* you hit us with that Spiritbox outro. Somebody at Wyrmwood has killer taste in music!

[@andrewurban6108]

I have worked in manufacturing for almost 2 decades and have seen some bad accidents (Crushed hands, missing fingers, compound fractures, falls). It is never fun to be on those accident investigation teams. After we review what happened on the floor our next step is to go and take a look at the work instructions, machine labeling, production notes, guarding, etc. So many times we have found documents that either are missing, not updated, or not posted for the workers. The company can be denied coverage by the insurance company for not having the required documents. The company is then held liable for all expenses related to the injury and can also be sued for additional damages. This is a serious thing and I am not sure that they understand what is at stake. I get that they don't want the weird culture to go away but this has nothing to do with that. You can still have fun and be safe while doing so. Having an HR dept to handle hiring and training is just smart. Having a safety consultant (if you don't have a safety person in house) is extremely smart in a manufacturing environment. Setting up a training and certification process with an outside company takes the burden off of you. Having a local company come in and check fire extinguishers, first aid kits, etc makes it easy. These things can all be handled by manufacturing leads and area managers if you let them. I really think there needs to be a rethink of the company structure to better address the obvious structural deficiency's in management. For a really good read/listen look up a talk by the NASA engineer who refused to sign off on the Challenger flight. He talks about the Standardization of Deviance. That is kind of what you have here. "Common sense says this is ok and nothing happened so its fine." This is what gets people seriously hurt or worse at work.

[@mattnottm8363]

@12:00 - "there should be no music, no podcasts, no joy on the workshop floor" A guy from the company I work at, but on a different site, decided to start wearing headphones/ earphones to listen to music whilst he operated his machinery. One day the director comes in, opens the door to the lab to say hi to him - and gets no response. She calls over several other members of staff and they all start shouting the guys name, no response. Standing a metre behind him he couldn't hear 5 people yelling, had there been a fire no way would he have heard the alarm.

[@playedbyallie]

I am so glad you got this guy to do your inspection. Hopefully you learned a lot! Safety doesn't have to be boring. It is the protection you and your employees need to push forward. I had no idea there were only TWO EPA INSPECTORS in all of New England. That's actually horrible (I work for an environmental company now and we work with EPA/Hazardous Waste, etc).

[@FantasKanal]

So the issue with kilts is that you need cloth to protect you leg? So Kilt with Thighhighs would be allowed?

[@charliewilliamson4431]

The most fabulous workforce of all

[@TheVergile]

depends on your tasks in the company. If we talk about walking through stacks of wood what counts is scratch and splinter protection. You got Thighhighs that do that...cool. Work next to a machine that could pull in clothes (like farming machines) or set our clothes on fire (big welding stations, grinding for certain metals, etc) then it could be a danger. Work with chemicals? Kilt might be wrong material to keep ypu safe from acid splashes. etc etc. There is no universal answer. You gotta know what the risks are. Then check what the regulation for that work/material is.

[@Kaladelia]

Are these thighhighs gonna stop splinters or scrapes? Then probably not that either.... He legit said "wearing dungarees" aka heavy pants... Now if you get thigh highs that are the right material and/or longer kilts, then ye!!

[@gibbousm]

Safety regulations are written in blood. Don't mock the regulations Doug. Safety starts with management. If you and Jason don't give Wyrmwood's Safety Program your full support, it will fail.

[@christinan.7273]

+

[@jacobniedergall4872]

That actually went better than I thought it would XD I hope he never runs into Crazy Ed haha

[@tazmon122]

that....wicked "this site was created in 1998" that listed manufacturing jobs in MA didn't list Wyrmwood....and considering how just Boston alone has changed over the past 5yrs, i'd guess that list should be at least 3x bigger.

[@MaxGriffinJames]

Manufacturing as a sector probably hasn't grown.. hard to say 🤷‍♂️

[@tazmon122]

@@MaxGriffinJames considering you're responding to someone who gave proof of growth, i'm pretty sure it has.

[@MaxGriffinJames]

@@tazmon122 I don't know about the Boston area. But there are around 5million less manufacturing jobs now in the US than in 1998.

[@tazmon122]

@@MaxGriffinJames i can speak about the Boston area seeing as i've lived in Boston since 1992.

[@karaokeang]

Safety is so good because Wyrmwood has a very Lean culture. It is fun to watch the videos and count the times Doug starts spouting off Lean concepts in a very conversational way.

[@nicolasbarrows]

Wow that OSHA dude was super chill. Not what I would have imagined but I’m very pleasantly surprised.

[@lordmordor4805]

He isnt OSHA, he is a safety inspector who goes to sites to evaluate them according to OSHA standards so they dont have to deal with OSHA fines. But yeah, super chill and reasonable. And he is right, documentation is king when it comes to records

[@ebishop6922]

tbf he isn't OSHA, he is a private contractor who helps companies evaluate their safety in line with OSHA guidelines. So he helps them to get inline before OSHA comes by (or after you get in trouble and have a mad scramble to try and match compliance to avoid a bigger fine)

[@shadowyclip]

Every single one I've dealt with has been a raging hemorrhoid. It's their job to be so I didn't take anything personal but it's never a fun day.

[@nicolasbarrows]

@@lordmordor4805 I somehow missed that part of the video oof

[@Kafen8d]

I genuinely live for the outros on these videos. I never thought I'd see another Courtney/Spiritbox fan out in the wild...much less on one of my favorite channels...

[@TDGCmote]

Jason is a really great designer As an artist, I love him for that. Among incredible craftsmen, he is important to Wyrmwood because of that talent.

[@shundley5891]

Doug didn't need to step down from CEO. All they had to do is create a GM and Production Manager, then structure responsibilities accordingly.

[@DrigrX]

I think the fact that he obviously doesn't believe in the things that need to change means it was a good choice on his part to step down.

[@luthermercedes]

I agree, I don't think it is the CEO's job to be an OSHA and HR expert

[@ilionblaze]

But how else could he show what a martyr he is?

[@AE390Carreras]

Doug might want to ease up on the "I told you so" grand tour before employees look elsewhere.

[@WhisperingWinds0]

I seriously think that by his "stepping down" speech already a few left. even if those were the ones pushing this. the way he talked only would rose to "F* you" comments. "it's all your fault for complaining,now deal with it". that's not how a CEO talks.

[@adammetc]

I feel like there's still an underlying theme of "you may be 'right', but this business is getting serious now and it does actually need to get it's documentation up to scratch". Doug is happy to be told that he was doing ok, but seems to recognise the need to be more technically compliant now, and that he's not the guy for it...

[@aaronwilliams8887]

Let's be honest, he is right in the spirit of the Law, but as he said from the beginning by the Letter of the Law he has to make a lot of changes. Even though he is right that they have been overall safe, there is a ton of laws they need ti incorporate to become safer. Basically, he has already said, I am wrong, and we will not follow my perspective because it could lead to our business closing. At the same time, he is showing that his criticisms of the system have a lot of truth, so if his employees understand that its hardly insulting them or their perspectives. lol he was the one that said even though I disagree, who am I to say that my employees are wrong? he believes in his employees so much that he stepped down based on their feedback. If they don't want to be in that kind of work environment then that's on them.

[@winningsince1992]

Okay and they go somewhere else...

[@dehro]

The safety inspector doesn't work for free. That they called him in and are documenting his work is both pr damage control (almost as if somebody watches the comments on their videos 😁) and a serious step in the right direction. Jason will have a hard time as a CEO, with Doug breathing down his neck and being his usual uitspoken self, but it was a necessary step.

[@briannabrett3473]

Thank you so much for having captions available!!!!!!

[@mjjoziasse1]

The points this safety inspector brings up seem pretty reasonable in all honesty, and to be fair they don't seem to be something that would be too hard to implement or at least too hard for Doug to have someone implement, I'm confused by the pushback that seems to be coming from Doug?

[@JosephSirkinov]

The safety inspector is asking exceptionally reasonable things. Doug's attitude would trouble me if I was working at Wyrmwood. I've spent 10 years a carpenter, still have all my fingers, and thats because of safety regulations implemented before my time.

[@ilionblaze]

My opinion of Doug keeps dropping with these safety topics. Seriously, calling people narcs now? And getting upset about documentation? Grow up.

[@sheeprevenge]

I think the big red flag with Doug is "Discretion over Regulation". Just put that in any other context: Would speed restrictions on high ways be better, if everybody could decide on their own if they comply with them? NO! Pretty much everybody would ignore them, because they are thinking that an accident won't happen to them or that they are better than the average driver and so on. Safety Regulations have to be relatively simple so everybody immediately knows what to do(even if this means that they are going a bit overboard in some cases) and not be overtrumped by their costs (safety is always more important than the money spend on it)

[@ZeZwede]

and that was why he stepped down so it's not his decision to deal with it. wasn't it?

[@ilionblaze]

Something else I don't understand is why Doug doesn't realise that documentation is there to protect the company. If you document things right then when there is an accident the company can say they provided the proper safe workspace and procedures were generally in place. It's not about anyone else being jerks, it's about the company showing they did their due diligence when someone else screws up.

[@JosephSirkinov]

@@ilionblaze personal reasoning, and only my own personal reasoning. Is he doesn't want to pay the costs. Because it's expensive to get people forklift certified, get things licensed and certified. If he's paying for it out of pocket, OR, his employees pay for their own cert. Which is unfair, be side I guarantee every employee is putting out 200 dollars for steel toes now.

[@VallenMcCrea36]

Can we have this safety guy on more often? He is hilarious and seems to get it the vibe of wormwood and safety combined.

[@BoredDoc]

I work in manufacturing and can honestly say I enjoy the peek into the "safety" at Wyrmwood to help me feel better about my plant. I love you guys and your products but holy hell I couldn't imagine if the same mentality towards safety and regulatory compliance was instilled at my worksite. We have about 8 forklifts running around the plant at all times, about two dozen trucks who pull through regularly, railcars spotted on the site daily, and have 24 hour operations with our production at my site. To answer your question I feel Wyrmwood is operating about as safe as I expected based on what I had seen on Wyrmlyfe. The low record-able incidents I was a bit surprised by but the lack of training for fork lift operators was a shocker to me based on how many times I see them moving objects with pedestrians in the area. The fact of the matter is that when Wyrmwood was a small shop people expect there not to be the corporate feel to working there. However now that you are a multi-million dollar business with multiple manufacturing plants you have to lose a bit of the small shop mentality towards regulation. I want this company to thrive and continue to create great work however they have to adapt to their environment both in products as well as business. I sometimes hope that some of this is for show and an exaggeration of how the company handles its business decisions.

[@Lathlaer]

Doug: I don't wanna be CEO and deal with the stuff like regulations etc. Jason should be the CEO to do it This Episode: Doug talking things through with the safety consultant

[@ennok4231]

"We're in our fourth quarter. We don't give a fuck." Hilarious!

[@azteca06]

Why is Dougie walking around with the safety guy? the one person you don't want with the safety guy, is DOUGIE! best part of the whole vid is @12:52

[@StephenL3]

Good to see the transition is happening in the right direction. Safety isn't a burden. It's what keeps you going as a business. If you don't have all of this stuff in place it's only a matter of time before you're sued or closed down by OSHA.

[@Endrid_Wintersbane]

Dang that safety inspector was understanding, but honest. Happy to see this though and I kinda get where Doug is coming from on that last bit with the ear buds. Strictly safety speaking no music on the worksite is standard but man if it isn't nice to have something to listen to while working. Especially on busy days where the work is just 'Do X thing repeatedly for the shift'.

[@Lam-s-Workshop]

That safety inspector deserves his own wyrmlife show

[@janderson5773]

Lol loved that guy. Lol "they don't come her to have fun???" Lol

[@nicolasbarrows]

Congrats again Jason on inheriting the mess! #Jason4CEO2020

[@trixareforchuck0001]

Hey Doug...I thought you weren’t gonna be the guy that brought safety and did the transition....

[@harmarize]

if you cant tell, he is still mocking the entire process.

[@trixareforchuck0001]

That makes it worse. He stood up and threw a pity party about how he is right and his employees are whiny little children and now he could face a lawsuit and how he’s not the one to bring about the change. BUT then he goes and escorts the safety inspector around and literally is involved in implementing the change. And yet you say oh yeah NBD cause he’s just mocking the whole process. Well the “whole process” will get you shut down and the “whole process” will get you sued if you don’t act quickly and take it seriously. Yet he just blatantly ignores that danger and continues on with documenting his arrogance and complete disregard for worker safety LAWS on KZbin to be brought to court by the first worker who decides to sue WW because Doug so clearly doesn’t care about their safety and even mocks the fact that the workers want safety and HR. Wyrmlife, albeit entertaining to watch, will be the end of WW.

[@alexandermesiti]

Peter is great. This was such a fun episode, and it was about safety!

[@grunt12g]

Yeah you need to get those extinguishers mounted and easily accessible.

[@WhiskeyFables2]

The safety inspector was super chill and straight forward with the knowledge he provided them and I truly hope they have learned something. I'm extremely surprised OSHA or any other safety organization hasn't shown up yet and fined you guys or even worse shut you down from you uploading these videos.

[@xilicks]

"I reduced the hazard" lmao

[@HLR4th]

I love the honesty of it all

[@lukejackson3901]

"Pics or it didn't happen." - OSHA

[@ImaginationHobbies]

I can't. The irony of the dude dictating safety with his nose holes sticking over the mask is too much!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@AriZZ21]

Exactly what i thought. Safety guy wears safety mask wrong. But still a chilled and nice dude. Way better/nicer inspector than i got in touch with!

[@ImaginationHobbies]

@@AriZZ21 oh for sure!

[@sheeprevenge]

He pulled it up a few times, so i don't think he is doing it on purpose

[@xxrabbitsnipezxx5794]

Some noses aren't really good support for mask y'know. They slip off with the slightest of movement and you can see him fixing it several times so it's not like he doesn't care, he's probably too focused on his job to notice it at times

[@Kyle-eo8dq]

@@xxrabbitsnipezxx5794 solution: wear a mask that fits properly, or in this case loop the elastics so it's tighter. He's just wearing it wrong.

[@LanceKirkman]

That's one hell of an ending!

[@AwlBeefPatty]

This is how I run my audits and surveillances. Here to help and teach, not to point fingers and smash the hammer of requirements upon thee. The HUGE factor here was that Wyrmwood called for help before something happened. My method has always been "If you call me and I find stuff, I am 99% more likely to give a "you should fix that" without a written reprimand than if I have to come see you and find it on my own." It's all about developing a culture where safety is everyone's responsibility, and where the inspector/auditor is not the villain, but is only there to prevent misunderstandings and complacency, I will admit though, Doug is not someone you would want an inspector or auditor anywhere near on an inspection. He freely and aggressively offers information and opinion in a way that would raise so many flags with someone who doesn't speak y'all's language.

[@dan_zehner]

*throws phone on the ground* I reduced the hazard. I like this guy! We need more of this guy.

[@orlando72az]

“We’re in our 4th quarter, we don’t give a f@ck!” That had me dying!

[@caseycronan9217]

Woah, that prediction! Another good episode!

[@Tclans]

Today safety won in a fucking awesome way. Never expected the independent safety guy could be part of Wyrmwood like that. 😆

[@Chaoslizard]

Best. Inspector. Ever! We need him back, he's the next Frank!

[@Thecameraman-bg4ve]

This whole video is just Doug trying to get in trouble 😂😂😂

[@dwild92]

They didn't go enough in details on why he abandonned his CEO role but I feel like this is one of them. Before, each time he gave his opinion, it was as CEO, thus his opinion was the one of Wyrmwood too, now it's only his own opinion. As a project manager, he has no say about safety, thus can complains as much as he want and he is now enjoying that right so much.

[@real_mereghost]

More like Doug being salty as hell that people could ever think that he was wrong and demand... well... a better working place.

[@jesse.minton]

and to think I used to want to work here 😂

[@TimmyJEuchida]

Very chill inspector, love the spiritbox outro too (just recently discovered them)

[@KoruXypress]

• Jason's CEO pitch: "OMG, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I totally forgot about that. No, he did not-HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!" The tongue has the power of life and death indeed. • After the grenade last episode, seeing a lot of Doug and the rest of the crew acting fine and cheerful (at least on camera) sure gives a sense of comfort. • I love how the safety inspector explains things, very educational. How come Wyrmwood is surrounded by such cool people?

[@plagueleague2008]

Why do I feel like those 2 safety guys were living their own version of Training Day with the "I'm in my 4th quarter, I don't give a fuck" playing the Denzel role?

[@johnkresconko1948]

Glad they had a safety guy come in, they can really help them out. They can also help improve processes, it takes one major accident to cost the company a ton of money.

[@4watchingvids]

Ok, New found respect for the media team for including spirit box.

[@emssmiley2002]

Be glad you purchased the tables at the KS prices, cause I see them going up soon.

[@scottharwood3337]

You guys need safety glasses, safety headphones, face guards, rated gloves, rated shoes, first aid kits, eye wash, marked exits, safety taped areas, safety cones, safety spill kits, safety training, safety routines, guidebooks for safety and procedures, quality checks on equipment and gear, cleaning crew, posted safety signs for employees and visitors, possibly security. That's just off the top of my head from this one video. Good luck.

[@nicolehunt7548]

The fact that the fire extinguisher didn't work is UNEXCEPTABLE. You are a wood shop. That is an absolute must.

[@DrigrX]

I get that this is WyrmLyfe, and Doug is probably playing it up. But as someone who is a journeyman machinist and has been in the industry for nearly a decade, seeing him be so flippant over the safety stuff, using air quotes, and putting it on the workers for airing their issues, pushing them in this safety direction, is making me lose a ton of respect I had for him...

[@VagabondTE]

Yeah I get where he's coming from but he's starting to come across as bitter

[@xnatcat13]

The lack of a working fire extinguisher disturbed me so much. Like, yall work in a literal tinderbox with machines that spark but you dont have ANY working fire extinguishers? Concerning to say the least. How have they been around for this long with no fires? No one is that lucky.

[@mcdotterson4103]

@@xnatcat13 ??? 1 out of 2 SHOWN weren't charged. maybe this is another drinking episode issue where because they only showed the 2 you expect them to only have 2 but i doubt that. do you also think they kept the only 2 they have in the shop at the same location?

[@LizLFey]

@@mcdotterson4103 im sure they have others but whose to say they are charged? If they have one uncharged fire extinguisher on the floor (not even properly stored) who knows what the condition of the others is. They work in a giant fire hazard.

[@xnatcat13]

@@mcdotterson4103 You really think that the team would let Doug do that stunt with an empty fire extinguisher but then wouldn't find a full one (if they had one) to then show the difference?

[@chrismanuel9768]

Hey, "pretty good" ain't bad. Now get that extinguisher recharged! You're working in a matchbox! And put on some clean socks! Are you getting enough to eat?

[@Cylanther]

"If you saw this comment what Cesia should get tattooed on her arm" She should get a tattoo of a Beholder in a safety vest and hard hat saying "What OSHA Violations?" ...but the beholder is actually Doug

[@davedujour1]

What 1997 Geocities website did they pull that list of manufacturers from? That blue text and table layout with a repeated small image is some classic WWW look right there! That site is an antique!

[@ninjasownpirates]

Holy shit, never thought I'd hear Spiritbox on Wyrmwood. Heck yes!

[@sylvaintremblay3311]

Thumbs up from me for using an awesome Spiritbox song!

[@stuart5350]

I’m Scottish and wearing a kilt while working machinery is fucking insane. Think about what part of your body is getting dragged forward if it gets trapped. Surely this is common sense

[@Endrid_Wintersbane]

Description question: Less safe than I thought. Thought was that you guys were doing all the safety stuff behind the scenes and everything that was forward facing on Wyrmlyfe was just antics for the sake of antics or just general behind the scenes stuff. I'm not too worried though, I trust you guys will move in the right direction and get things up to code but still have the fun bleed back into it all.

[@TopherRocks]

Honestly right about where I figured you guys would be on safety. It seems like there's been things here and there that fall into the "Safely doing a dumb thing" category like that forklift operation, but it doesn't seem like anyone's working in any more of a death trap than a place with a ton of sharp spinning objects could be.

[@lordmordor4805]

Yeah, i figured they werent so far out of standard....mostly minor things (aside from non-working fire extinguishers imo). slightly less fun yeah, but better than risking fines

[@scirone]

I dont feel like "expense to safety ratio" is something that should ever be said/considered

[@Morcarag]

It’s certainly dangerous to say out loud on a recorded and publicly available medium such as KZbin. That said, it’s always a trade off. Do most people install 5 point safety harnesses in their cars and always drive wearing a crash helmet and neck braces? No. Why? Because the cost (literal money as well as time and annoyance) outweighs the perceived increase in safety.

[@Morcarag]

To be clear I’m not saying the Wyrmwood shouldn’t improve their safety compliance. Just that everyone personally and in business and in regulations makes a judgement on ‘how much is enough’ and when the cost exceeds the benefits.

[@MustNotContainSpaces]

@@Morcarag weeellll yeah, I guess. If that's your personal decision to make. But this is an employer speaking. You don't get to make that decision for your subordinates.

[@sporkmaster5000]

"expense to safety ratio" is a real bad way to put it, but regulatory burden can be a real killer. It's management's job to keep a business solvent even if they're not the kind to cut corners and screw workers and that can get impractical with enough regulatory overhead and a niche market. I doubt it's that dire for Wyrmwood to get up to spec, but it's something they have to be conscious of.

[@rhysredin3030]

This is why you will never own a business.

[@jbabe9943]

Spiritbox? MY DUDES!

[@randallnadeau7713]

"we are in our fourth quarter we don't give a fuck" jajajajaaajajajajjajajjaajajaja

[@DeadMech1]

I like this guy. i wanna see him and frank in the same room.

[@belladonnaRoot]

Inspector dude was great. Probably because he's not kidding when he implied that this was a boring/routine/easy trip. Usually they only get called /after/ there's problems that can't be swept under the rug. It'd be refreshing to go to a company that's doing most things right and hasn't negligently hurt anyone, but needs some help crossing T's and dotting I's to prevent future issues. (I worked at a company that occasionally worked on engineering solutions for safety issues; my standard line for 'bad' is whether or not they've sent chunks of metal through walls.) Documenting safety stuff absolutely sucks, but it's necessary just to keep things from falling through the cracks, like that extinguisher. If I were in Jason's shoes, I'd find someone on the floor who's moderately straight-laced, and making them safety lead. Have them be in charge of the PPE, and schedule of inspections, and safety postings at each machine. At my old workplace, that guy spent about 2-3 days/year doing that job, but having someone designated as "the safety guy" made every safety question an easy one.

[@WreckerR]

Cesia obviously needs a Wrymwood tattoo!!! Make it the Halloween one!