Xiaomi 12S Ultra vs Vivo X80 Pro CAMERA BATTLE! ZEISS vs LEICA! Brains vs Brawn!

TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy Xiaomi 12S Ultra vs Vivo X80 Pro Camera Comparison! A new one inch sensor against a crazy co-processor. Triple camera vs quad camera! ZEISS vs LEICA! This is one of the most brutal comparisons I've ever produced. We've crossed a new tier in phone camera performance and these two phones are at the BLEEDING EDGE. Let's dig in!
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0:00 Introducing the Players!
1:05 Nerd Math!
4:37 Bokeh Comparisons
6:22 HDR and Daylight Comparisons
7:58 Indoor Comparisons
10:20 CRANKY NERD RANT
14:19 RAW vs SuperRAW
16:14 Ultra-Wide and Telephoto
17:35 Camera App Comparisons
19:57 Can we crown a winner?
21:00 Final Thoughts
#xiaomi12ultra #vivox80pro #bokeh #zeiss #leica

[@Marlon_J]

You should just dominate this camera comparison segment with more of these. When I watch your videos I'm actually learning a lot about the cameras, their capabilities and photography. When I watch other comparisons it's all about: camera A good, camera B not as good.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's TONS of work, and YT isn't really supporting this kind of work. The only way I can do videos like these is leaning on the Patreon.

[@sudhakar7889]

Check out Versus channel too

[@joelconolly5574]

He used to do that. But now he stopped doing it and only do it occasionally.

[@coolsoyabmemon]

@@SomeGadgetGuy amazing work... As always... One question - is vivo x80 is as good ? Considering the price point

[@samernabeel5971]

Absolutely amazing! Honestly that's the best camera comparison I've seen on KZbin, I wouldn't have had a problem if this video was an hour long. The only gripe I have is that it's not uploaded in 4K.

[@sudhakar7889]

See Versus channel. He's very good

[@davidhunternyc1]

Agreed. Why isn't this in 4K? Amateur hour. 😆

[@bloomylicious]

4k is available for patreon subscribers

[@aljosacebokli]

Super happy you got your hands on the 12s after almost missing out on the 11 last year. You're the right guy to play with these kind of toys!

[@yashleysookun]

Excellent comparison Juan! I own an X80 Pro and I was eagerly awaiting for such a face-off with the 12S Ultra.

[@rekki27]

Been waiting for this battle & wow what a battle it is, the depth of your review is commendable good sir.

[@littledragon09-16]

Have been waiting fr this showdown from you Juan! Thx much😘

[@saadatkhan8273]

Fantastic as always... The thought and hardwork u put in is commendable...

[@YosSaid]

Loving my Vivo X80 pro. Been using for the past 3 months and it amaze me everytime.

[@ShriRam_P1_Dalal]

Just wonderful..!! One of the finest camera-phone reviews I remember seeing. Thank you.

[@TheGrizz485]

This Chanel is a hidden gem. Can't believe it didn't hit a million subscribers. You'll never learn this info anyware else.

[@kenrampingplay]

You really gave justice to these 2 phones. Most reviewers now only care about point-and-shoot and the social media-ready camera comparisons.

[@rckbrch]

You man got my sub!!! From now on I'll watch your videos when it comes to camer reviews in smartphones... 👍 This is what a smartphone camera review should be! 😁

[@TechValor]

I learned a lot in this vid. Thanks for your comparison!

[@javierarias6754]

Totally underrated channel barely get him in my feed and yet prefer his content more giving us great information on every vid hopefully one day people would understand the value of his content more.

[@nikytamayo]

That walking shot really sells it, that looks like a straight out mirrorless camera video with a decent wide aperture lens. You wouldn't think for a second that it was a phone shot! And that's what sells me on the Xiaomi. the X80 dynamic range is jaw dropping, and Super RAW is an incredible three or four step shortcut in image processing, but all of the shots out of the Xiaomi feel like they come from an actual camera. For the extra dynamic range, stick those jpegs in Lightroom Mobile for some tone adjustment and you've got stuff you can publish for work. Gads, hope they release the International version soon!

[@koraykaptan5414]

This is hands down one of the best smartphone camera comparisons out there. I was so sick of cropped photo analysis. Someone finally saw a gap between how pro photographers work and regular people. Thank you so much for this video and keep up the good job. I would like to see more Xiaomi 12S Ultra vs. comparisons.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

The MOST exciting fight starting 2023 will be this Xiaomi vs the new Vivo. Stay tuned 😊

[@SionFrench]

A big thanks to Juan for opening eyes to the exciting real developments in pocket computer cameras, that don’t get extravagant marketing budgets to promote them.

[@ashraffendy2010]

Exquisitely awesome review. Keep up the good work. I've learned a lot from you 🙏🙏🙏

[@fitventura]

I like your reviewing style very much! Keep doing a good work

[@richardmayo6076]

Great job, nice to hear someone who knows what they are talking about making these things

[@hm-mo6lz]

THAT IS THE BEST PHONE CAMERA COMPARISON ON KZbin! Kudos!

[@fer200015]

Best review I've seen about this two big sensor phones, thanks a lot

[@BarryJohnson]

Outstanding Showdown!

[@AxeKorvin]

Thank you very much! Very good job, a lot of information.

[@MobileFilmmaking]

Another great video man!

[@mushfiqsaikat1211]

This is the best phone camera review I've seen, and oh yeah I've seen thousands over many years

[@risalatrahman933]

When it comes to camera comparisons, yours is the only video I watch.

[@TheChrisDecember]

Finally! The video I've been waiting for! This video needs a million views.

[@kp66udv]

I'd love to see you do a camera battle among the iPhone 13 Pro, Pixel 6 Pro, Xiaomi 11 Ultra and Xiaomi 12S Ultra. On the results shown in your video, the 12S Ultra is a clear winner on every aspects over the X80 Pro. Better color and DR.

[@kenr4676]

The best phone camera reviewer!!!! Very detailed in all aspects of photography

[@yash_kambli]

I would love to having a variable aperture on such a huge sensors. Previously, samsung did to S8&9 but due to smaller sensor differences weren't substantial but now it could be. Nonetheless, fantastic video as usual.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

That's what was so fun about the XPERIA Pro-I. It REALLY helps.

[@samernabeel5971]

Variable aperture started at the s9

[@josephnevin]

@@samernabeel5971 more like a rudimentary dual aperture than true variable aperture.

[@bunyaadi]

I think a good example of a camera company doing something like mobile phone photography is from Leica. Their M11 which allows you to shoot in 3 different resolutions while using the full sensor. It uses internal pixel binning to use more light capture whilst essentially maintaining the clarity. Unlike the Samsung s21 and s22 ultra which are just shambolic in comparison. Also their higher iso range means you can push them quite far. Although to do a relative shot in similar settings with smaller sensors. You do need to do a little math. Pity these are consigned to China only.

[@SHUTENSEPC]

Ok bro this is the most knowledge I've picked than from any other reviewer only on 4 minutes. Def a sub.

[@shrimperlincs3395]

Learned more about mobile photography in this one video than hours of others.

[@kevinholcomb2680]

Great comparison of these (2) crazy camera phones 😁👍.

[@skai3081]

That's a brilliant most detailed and fun showdown I loved every second of it thank you soooo much for your effort, keep up with such great content.... Also can you please make a comparison of any old phone that has some great cameras like the old Leica camera phones please... Like the this 12s ultra up against the p20 pro or p30 pro I think p30 pro would be better for the comparison... I want to see just how much the smartphone camera have evolved and I think that will be a hot topic too... Please it's a request do consider it please... ♦️ But again thanks for this engaging fun comparison...

[@winther5]

I still have my P30 pro and currently weighing up if the X80 pro is a significant upgrade in regards to photography

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

This was a killer presentation brother, i loved the equivalencies to full frame, i can't believe how good they are.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Its shocking. Phone cameras at the ultra tier are INCREDIBLE.

[@weegabgab4687]

Dang bro that cameras is so insane and cool btw i love your content bro

[@MrSri1120]

Awesome.. practical and realistic approach

[@rajtadvi1447]

Best video so far about smartphone camera comparison on KZbin✌✌✌✌✌

[@Karme1n]

Thank you for this amazing information, it is really helpful, regarding the fact that 12S Ultra is not so commonly available.

[@SanjeevKumar-ik7xs]

Nice was wondering about this

[@kuau714]

Finally a competent review of these phones. Unfortunately for me here in the USA I imported the 12s and since it’s still only a China ROM it’s was a non starter for me and I ended up selling it. Maybe in the future if there is a global version with 100% google services support I may give it another look. I also had the Xperia Pro-I which I really liked except that the screen was just not bright enough for me when shooting outdoors

[@qwild]

You know you could have downloaded play store and also unlocked the bootloader and fixed safety net and device certification.

[@johngreen2015]

Thankyou for this video, it is sad that most people have not evolved from the point an shoot mentality as the only mode of photography. Please keep doing your analytical comparisons as they are needed to educate people about what they posses so that they get the most out of them.

[@residentCJ]

Gr8 work, thx 🙂 Noise is a heavy topic. Xiaomis Denoizing looks cleaner but looks less Detailed imho. A Denoising Switch/setting would be nice. 12sU vs. Pro-I would be great, or better RGGB vs RGB Bayer Pattern with similar Sensor Sizes.

[@prealex21]

Great comparison, amazing phones =)

[@rajatsingh-bg8rv]

i just landed on your channel through suggestions and now i feel like i have seen your videos or something like gsmarena reviews/videos 2 -3 years back but right now I'm not able to recall it, anyways i have subscribed, very informative review, perfect roasting too. 👍

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I've been on a bunch of sites. Probably Pocketnow? Now I'm on Reviews.org and SlickDeals.

[@destroying3048]

Finally found the best camera comparison of both phones❤️

[@laveeg1]

Exhalant Review 👌🏼

[@mitotv6376]

Great battle

[@johnhenry47]

great work brother

[@Samerawi]

I just don't get it, why top tier phones don't come with sd card slot anymore? Except for Sony....

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Money. Apple made more money. Everyone else just followed.

[@myang1933]

Everybody is making more money... They can charge you tons for those extra 128gb, 256gb, etc. If you add an SD card, it's the SD card company making that money

[@theunown1912]

Also look at the lifespan of Samsung flagships VS Apple flagships vs Sony flagships. After 5 years of hardcore use you still get great battery and performance. Importantly still on the original battery too.

[@koji.m4014]

And yet Sony has been marginalised in terms of market share. Consumers are sick, they have no foresight. Smartphones being purchased annually or even every two years just creates an unnecessary hole in your pocket. But a top tier Sony and you've got a beast for 4 years easily. I'm a fan boy with just a little logic so I get one every 2 years.

[@williamandre3x]

Not only just Sony, Huawei is still adapting expandable storage with NM Card but recently only manufactured by Huawei itself

[@masononemine1702]

You nailed the ending by saying that smartphone photographers would care about the zoom lens and thus giving Xiaomi the Win, I would wish more companies would treat the zoom lenses with the same importance as the main lens, imagine an even larger sensor on that telephoto. I was really interested in the ZTE Axon 40 ultra since the Main lens on that phone is 35mm and that makes me question if the 'bokeh' on that is going to be somehow superior to the Xiaomi, that phone also shoots 16 Megapixel raw files so i am very interested in seeing that comparison. With all that said, you can still easily install Gcam to use something similar if not better than the Vivo's super raw on the Xiaomi phone. One more thing, if you install the PixelCam (one with the yellow icon) and shoot in HDR+ and not HDR+ enhanced with RAW enabled, you basically get double the iso performance without any drawbacks, like the softening that results in stacking or the delay in the shutter speed. I haven't tried it on the Xiaomi 12s Ultra but I do use it on my own Xiaomi phone and it works incredibly well.

[@falk3nn]

Great review. proper order

[@MrLichina]

Soooo happy with my X80 pro. A fantastic phone!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a BEAST of a camera phone.

[@alexmascarenhas3659]

Nice job, my man. Thanks! 🙂 P.S. Have you done any comparisons that involved the Nubia z60 Ultra, by any chance?

[@myang1933]

Incredible battle. Fun presentation. My God that nighttime vivo

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's insane what vivo is doing in software.

[@MrHubyBuby]

Amazing review! You helped me choose the... Non, lol, we don't get any of them in my country. Recently we got VIVO here but only the midd models, i guess they are checking the market so hopefully in the future we will see the flagships. Basically we have only Samsung, IPhone and a lot midd laners of different brands and I don't want neither. So, I'll wait, and wait, and wait... Amazing job man, you clearly know what you are doing 👏

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

LOL I know that feel.

[@myang1933]

Can't wait for vivo x80 pro plus fight.

[@joisaacs3351]

🔥🔥 absolutely stunning photography on handheld pocket computers that allows you to even make a call! Imagine such a huge and powerful sensor on an LG (with the manual prowess it LG brought to the game)🤤🥺. Really enjoyed the showdown

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Ugh I know. A V series LG with the IMX989 and a Quad DAC... Dang...

[@Tethysmeer]

Typing still on a V30, that would be great 😁

[@med-2014]

You have to try the Motion Cam app on this high end devices Juan! :D

[@abc_cba]

Thanks for the awesome details. Please z always put the comparison photos side by side for better comparison. Our short term memory can't remember everything in that precision. Thanks for your video. Next, you should try Google Pixel 7 vs Xiaomi 12S Ultra. Beta wishes from India 🇮🇳 Subscribed!

[@arthurkingflores7909]

awesome 👏 two fantastic camera phones.

[@benleonheart]

Awesome, man!!!!!! Throw in a pickle 6 pro in there for s&g lol... Also, i have to agree with the higher focal length equivalent on phones, stepping back with my Pixel 6 pro and switching to the 4x is just *chef's kiss* Camera competition with the Xiaomi and vivo is super exciting!!! Everyone about to up their game!! Lol Super good video, Juan!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

But seriously. How good is the pixel 6 pro telephoto for portraits. 😍

[@seanomar3536]

Awesome indepth review!!! I got the pixel 6 pro and I just wish it had a manual mode and I think it would be perfect

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Same. I understand why Google doesn't do it, but the hardware is so good, it could be pushed even farther with manual controls.

[@kiIIingxspree]

this is what i wanted ty

[@Rafaelinux]

Somehow your night samples for the xiaomi look way better than the ones from the vivo. Nice video, I reached way different conclusions from your samples, though

[@abhishekgiri1201]

Awesome review!! Can't wait to get my hands on the 12s ultra!!

[@winther5]

unfortunately it will not be sold outside China. Just announced by Xiaomi

[@ticoss]

very good test, very good speech. Finally someone who understands the benefits of these technologies

[@rph_redacted]

That stacked RAW photo was amazing. You could see shadows of the grills inside the car. With some editing , it will look amazing

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's like shooting a bracket from a camera on a tripod, but you can go hand held. 🤯

[@rph_redacted]

@@SomeGadgetGuy no way. That was handheld???

[@juliandelarosa3321]

Hi Juan thanks for the great informative video!! Will any of those phones work on the TMobile network here in USA?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I'm on Mint right now, and the X80 Pro seemed to work well on LTE. I have TERRIBLE LTE coverage around me, and it's definitely missing some bands, but it worked.

[@juliandelarosa3321]

@@SomeGadgetGuy OK thanks for your reply Juan, appreciate it and good to know. Have a great night brother!

[@user-zy5ne5ym7e]

Great Camera Comparison 👍👍👍

[@bazassaminoteii8225]

Juan thank you for restoring my confidance in American Phone reviews

[@facestamper5334]

Love the vid, I'm getting the Vivo

[@doa_form]

Great video on the photography perspective! However I'm left wondering what's your experience with video? Do they support top tier features like 4K 120fps? Slow motion from all of the sensors? Would you say they are clearly above than a OnePlus 10 Pro?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

No native support for 4K 120, which isn't too surprising given the sensor sizes. OP, Sony, and ZTE are the top recommendations for 4K slow motion.

[@thatdude7170]

Would've been awesome if Magic4 Ultimate was more wildly available. As crazy as it sounds, its full-frame aperture equivalent is even faster than the 12S ultimate. Also, stacked raw is a massively underrated feature. It's gives you the best stills output the phone is capable of in most conditions. One thing that bugs me about ProRaw and Expert Raw though is that they give you demosaiced dng files, which means the ugly noise reduction artifacts are still there, making it more of an over-glorified Tiff than a PRO or EXPERT raw.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah that's totally fair. I think that's why it's even more important to explain what those modes are really there for. For me it's a situational tool where I want to shortcut what would have been a bracketed shot on my mirrorless, and I'm good with some of the compromises going in.

[@noblecollins9549]

Vivo has always been a pacesetter who's never afraid to try something new.

[@juanfernandoarboleda9315]

One question from a smartphone photographer... which of the two you would use thinking in night photography and possible printing size?

[@jarjarbinks8954]

The math checks out! Love this showdown

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

😎👍

[@BhupenderSingh-mm2rk]

WHERE WERE YOU BROOOO !!!! KZbin PLEASE RECOMMEND THESE VIDEOS TO EVERYONE.....HE IS GEMM.............. NEVER SEEN SUCH A COMPARISON MY GOD......... YOU DESERVES TO CHARGE MONEY FOR THESE KIND OF VIDEOS.....

[@winther5]

awesome review! It was just announced that the 12S Ultra will not be sold outside China. This leaves me with the X80 Pro - but what holds me back are reports of overheating (and subsequent throttling) and bad battery life. Is that something you have experienced?

[@Abhinav-gt9yq]

The X80 pro does have heating problems , but so do many Sd 8 gen plus 1 phones. With so much processing , it heats up sometimes. Cools fast too. Gaming etc is flawless , never heats up during it.

[@joshuabergeman354]

Have you done reviews on the Huawei P40 pro? I can't find it and I would be really interested in opinion because I recently bought one and the camera comparison to my S22 ultra really shocked me, especially considering the P40 pro is from 2020🤷‍♂️

[@joywebb6964]

Nice 📷 comparison 🤓

[@miskomarkovic3446]

Thank you

[@PrezentareMachete64]

honor magic 4 pro (tested by you) is better or between this two?

[@terrym540]

Any chance of a comparison between the main sensor in the Xiaomi 12 S Ultra and that in the Sony Xperia Pro-i?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Could be an interesting fight...

[@terrym540]

@@SomeGadgetGuy In terms of resulting images how superior is the full 1" sensor against the cropped 1" sensor, and the inclusion of a variable aperture in the Xperia Pro-i.

[@darrenmorin]

I like your "co-pilot" moniker for 2 camera phones to do 2 different jobs.

[@blaite4963]

really nice comparison..i wanted so much too see what someone will say about more raw capabilities of the phone..and man...wow vivo is a beast at computational output :) thx for the review

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's so much fun seeing how far we can go.

[@bypinkerton892]

I loved this vid.... We were a Nikon Camera Family.... But always Knew the Magic of Leica..... I just bought a Budget Nokia X100 5g with Zeiss lense to practice & learn how to best use the Camera's in phones.... With thoughts off graduating to the Nokia X200 5g with the Leica Lense - printed - Professional Photography on the phone.... But I really like Telephoto so I may just hope to get that Vivo X80.... Thanks

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@arghadeepsaha8598]

I am just glad that I found you

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I'm glad too.

[@Vks1992]

Waiting for the Vivo Series with the 1 inch sensor and that out of the world processing🔥❤️

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Want so bad!

[@Z0AHOLIC]

Спасибо! Сравнение было довольно интересное.

[@farishanafiah8461]

19:10 I haven't seen focus peaking on smartphone camera since LG. Glad to see Xiaomi take the chance to put it on the 12S Ultra.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Quite a few phones have limited options, it's just refreshing that Xiaomi supports it in practically all photo and video pro modes.

[@hernindio99]

I'm really happy with my X80Pro, it has tons of features. Non stop exploring experience!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

TONS of room to grow on an X80 Pro.

[@sadboykdraco]

What about the security and software updates of he vivo x80pro

[@hernindio99]

@@sadboykdraco i have got the August firmware/security update. About the software i heard Vivo promised that their flagship line will get 3 years or 3 major update of Android version (if I'm not mistaken)

[@sadboykdraco]

@@hernindio99 ok thank u

[@WhySoSeriousJoker699]

Does it have a heating issue?

[@TechMikkel]

A statement about 12s: It is not consistent, but when it hits, it hits hard. So basically it is not very good with a few impressive exceptions now and then. But I don't agree and have another statement: If you are a hard hitter, it often hits hard. This means that a photographer or a good amateur will often get very fine results that will match or, especially with the main lens, will quite often be many times better than Samsung and iPhone. I think that if you are not good at taking photos other smartphone brands might be better at optimizing your images. But if you are a good amateur or photographer, 12s (and X80 Pro) makes a big difference, because they can see its potential and use it.

[@meffyteo3713]

Hello, do you think it is worth changing my pixel 6 pro for this live? What interests me most is the camera, greetings from Guatemala✌️

[@mikethunman436]

Aah, don't concentrate on those comments that much.. You did a good job!

[@conzcoronacion2]

I did not skip the ads put of respect for this guy

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@markfinlay422]

WowJuan, those night modes! And maybe you need a special hat to signal sarcasm? You'd be wearing that hat a LOT.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I'm sticking with black and white for when I make jokes about bad techie hot takes.

[@OmarSS87]

Can you please also post samples with HDR off? Thanks

[@SpardasTechReviews]

I'll be honest from all of your coverage of the 12s ultra especially the camera deep dive(cheap Patreon plug) it made me just decide that I want to mess with that hardware. It's crazy because I polled my audience and they are far more interested in me covering the 12s ultra than the 14 pro max. Gonna have to forego getting the 1 IV, but the 1 III is still a beast so I can wait for the V. Lol

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Oh man. If you can mix that in, it's SUCH a different vibe from the Sony. I think you're in for a treat.