the limitation is the technic hub, not the motor. the reason why the vehicle stop is not becase the motor is overloaded, but because the mosfet in the Hub that's driving the motor is overheating. the Motor drivers used in the hubs are intended for an optimal range of 0.5-1A output with a max capacity of 2.5A devided between 2 channels. the problem is that the efficiency curve gets shot to hell alove 1A draw, and the driver chip overheats, causing a shutdown. the larger motor draws more power, so it will shutdown faster since the driver chip will overheat LONG before the motor has reached its limit. the L motor draws less power, so it can push out more torque effectively before tripping the overheat.
@akauppi23 жыл бұрын
Does this mean with something like BuWizz brick (3rd party) the difference would be there?
@5720893 жыл бұрын
@@akauppi2 yes. thats a large reason why Bwizz 3.0 is targeted to PU motors.
@jjones25823 жыл бұрын
Does this mean the hub has a design defect or does Lego also make (plan to make) a bigger hub to handle the larger motor? In the Philo chart the L and XL seem to have the exact same torque, but the L has a barely faster rotation speed. That seems like some pretty weird specs for something called an XL motor. At least with the Power Function line the XL motor provided over twice the torque for a slower rotation speed trade off.
@5720893 жыл бұрын
id be curious to test the L vs XL motors on the Buwizz 3.0 to see if its just that the motors really are a marketing gimmic, or if the poor design of the hub is screwing them over. I highly doubt lego will release any more higher power motor parts or they would have all ready, given how popular and sought after the buggy motor is; same goes for power packs. im curious if the use of an insufficient driver IC is a lame downcosting measure, or if it was done to change the product classification to clear EU laws. id imagine the PU system skirts the border between consumer electronics and toys under EU regulations, so that may have something to do with it
@user-fx5kc1qp4o3 жыл бұрын
Does this mean that Lego made a mistake? Or they did it in purpose and XL means just the physical size of motor?
@Michalloyd_stop-motion3 жыл бұрын
I think now we need to see a PF version
@amirpenkar9473 жыл бұрын
Yeesss please!
@LibertarianPhoenix3 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@LS1sLegoGarage3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@searme3 жыл бұрын
Such a neat house :)
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, at least the carefully selected areas where I could film, this would be impossible in the LEGO building area :D
@ItsHonski3 жыл бұрын
:)
@zuanverreynne83013 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick:D
@Cen_t13693 жыл бұрын
Sariel!!!
@896gerard3 жыл бұрын
Recently I bought the 42099 Xtreme Offroader and was surprised to notice that at some times (while testing in heavy terrain, fresh batteries) the _rear_ XL motor would simply cut out, followed by the front motor as that one got all the load. My guess: the Powered Up brick does some serious current limiting. At its maximum output power, the XL motor needs more current than the L motor, but by no means it *gets* that current. At the same rpm and voltage, this practically means that the XL motor is no stronger than the L motor. I think that a good tuned Buwizz can unlock a lot of potential here. Can you hook these up to a Buwizz? If there is a big difference, this means that the reason is not the motor itself but the crazy low current limit set by TLG.
@dazley80213 жыл бұрын
I think you gotta wait till february, because thats when the new BuWizz version with 4 PU ports comes out.
@QuincySonOfQuincy_2 жыл бұрын
Its the 42099s safety auto stop so when the motors are put through too much stress the hub automaticly stops the motors so the motors dont break from stress
@Wreckedftfoxy Жыл бұрын
@@QuincySonOfQuincy_ power functions didnt have that
@Unapersonaconunmicroscopio3 сағат бұрын
I have a buwizz 3.0 and will try to get an xl motor. With the buwizz app i can give the motor up to 4 amos of current which is insane
@Michalloyd_stop-motion3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the hub can't deliver so much current to the XL motor so it cuts out.
@dobriklegotechnic3 жыл бұрын
This is really cool content
@Tapitus-totalus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was looking for this after Sariel's double L motor test
@rosinegrean2 жыл бұрын
I reached your video after wanting to try the exact same thing. I'm glad I did not purchase an XL motor to test it. Thank you
@747technics83 жыл бұрын
I was going to say first but I remembered I had brain cells
@adrian_zombturtle1483 жыл бұрын
First
@BlackringIII2 жыл бұрын
🙏 thank you brother ☺️
@KastaRules3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding test as always !!! I would never have guessed the result myself. Just a shot in the dark: PERHAPS the advantages of the XL motor are only noticeable when the Voltage is increased a little, like with a BuWizz. Usually greater Torque requires higher Voltage and rechargeable batteries run those motors pretty poorly with their nominal 1.2 volts. What I am saying is that in this test the L motor was being run close to its true potential while the XL was still far from it.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Well they should show whatever potential they have with the Powered Up hubs since that's where they are supposed to be used in LEGO sets.
@KastaRules3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick True. Only one way to find out though. Could you try with Alkaline batteries and see if there is any change?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
@@KastaRules I won't waste 12 alkalines for this. The pack of fully charged LADDAs is around 8.4V (as they can be charged over the nominal 1.2V). A pack of average alkalines is 9V, and it drops quickly with use so there's not much difference. I'll try with higher voltage though, but not alkalines ;)
@KastaRules3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick Fair enough. I assumed you were swimming in cash, being a KZbin celebrity and all! Seriously though, I believe a pack of rechargeable NiZn batteries or better yet, the upcoming PU compatible BuWizz, could show the difference in power between L and XL.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Lol, YT celebrity swimming in cash? I'm lightyears away of that...
@Nightswimmer803 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for this comparison!
@PhoenixClank3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Very interesting observation.
@Maxiie_TM3 жыл бұрын
So in my oppinion this set can't be really upgraded. Thanks for some informations about this set and xl motor
@ThatGuy_08153 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great and insightful comparison! You could try building the XTreme Offroader (I think 42099) with L instead of XL motors. Also, it would be interesting to know how the C+L motor stacks up against the PF L. Thanks!
@lmi9f93 жыл бұрын
I think i saw this comparison on YT already.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I compared the PU versions with the PF ones already, it's linked in this video as well
@ThatGuy_08153 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick Great to know, thanks!
@viktorgyenes83683 жыл бұрын
Great test, that's exactly the comparison I was curious about, wondering why they put the L motor into the buggy instead of an XL one. I am also experimenting with a faster car with two XL motors, and find that it soon becomes quite bad at climbing. My current theory is that the XL motor may be better suited for larger/slower constructions, especially if only one motor is used for drive, like in the Volvo hauler. Maybe, it would be a good test to swap an L motor into the hauler and see how it compares to the original XL version. Would you like to try that? It also gives the possibility to test with different gear ratios. Hopefully the swap would not need too much rebuilding.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Will try the swap with another set, but that'll also show the difference
@Dadudi3 жыл бұрын
Now I am really confused....
@Braveheart35673 жыл бұрын
add some weight on top of the L motor to balance the weight difference. And swap the batteries between two cars and run the experiment again just in case there's a factor there.
@marekstrnad32893 жыл бұрын
And it would probably make sense to test with standard batteries, the 9V vs 7.2 can make the difference
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I did this test multiple times and the batteries were charged and mixed so it is not about the batteries.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Since both hubs was using the same type of batteries, if there's a difference then it should be visible at 7.2V as well.
@clevmagyk7703 жыл бұрын
one xl motor on each wheel, 4 wheels, claas tires, very fun machine, good climbing, good test with l motors aswell
@jimiboii2093 жыл бұрын
Just picked this up with my fiancé. Can’t wait to build. I mainly got this for the drives and Bluetooth! I have the mustang and Porsche and doms challenger
@AlexMonas3 жыл бұрын
So. Many. Questions. I really don't understand what's going on at Lego. I just recently got into Lego Technic. At the beginning I thought I was dumb, not getting what's happening. They seem to be head and shoulders above everyone else building ABS plastic Elements. Yet, App-Design and very basic motors are all over the place. I'm so puzzled. They put out a Helicopter with a useful part, but take it off the market before release, and it's like a thousand money. They put out a cool servo motor in the same generation where all motors can be servos. - and they still don't let people play with it, still not supporting it on their Powered Up App.
@scottengebretsen33813 жыл бұрын
That was great . You have solved a problem of mine for me. Many thanks . Keep up the toil.
@rhinoareaction75872 жыл бұрын
I believe the XL motor actually has a lot of capabilities, but the smart hub cuts off the engine if he's submitted to "too much" stress and it ruins everything, with PF you could actually use all the torque of the engine...sad
@The_RC_Dude3 жыл бұрын
Next up: PF Buggy motor (with full PF conversion)! Or how about a 4x4 mod...powered by a buggy motor(s?)!
@EvanMoon3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these different tests two see real world results
@donnachaslegocreations3 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting that
@NMR883 жыл бұрын
I've tested this swap too on my 42124 and got the exact same results with the exact same confusion (XL motor picked on my 42099). Basically I was asking the same question: why Lego made this XL motor since the L can do the same and even a bit better ? While searching for an answer and testing myself in a lot of different situation it seems that the internal motor speed on the XL is slower than the one in the L (fairly less noisy) despite a very similar output speed, I guess it means that the XL has more torque before reduction than the L but I still cant understand where this would be useful. In my opinion it would be interesting to test both L and XL on the future Buwizz 3.0 to see if things change at 11V+. This little set is still very interesting, even if the default suspension is basically useless since they are way too stiff and the rear pivot way to short. I'm currently modding it to get the model lighter (better power to weight ratio) and fix that suspension problem, the front was easy (dark grey shocks are perfect for it), but the rear is still complicated to upgrade efficiently without guetting the wheelbase longer even if I still have some ideas for that.
@dowesschule3 жыл бұрын
thx for the info! i saw a youtube video on third party PF - C+ adapter cables, that said that the C+hub is cutting power extremely early for motor damage prevention. if powered by the PF battery box, both the C+ L and XL where more powerful and the difference was more pronounced. also, PF Motors powered by the C+hub where less powerful and cut power earlier. so the buwizz will be interesting, but those adapters are as well
@SudrylTarron3 жыл бұрын
could you try also with the angular motor from the 42114 it could be interesting i think
@l.dexter43612 жыл бұрын
So I configured some Lego motors to hack together my own Arduino-controlled Lego car... The weight of that circuit board, breadboard and two 9V batteries was likely the cause for my L motor's miserable attempt at movement, so I stuck in an XL and now it actually moves at a decent speed. I am convinced there is an increase in performance here.
@Shep-eo6xr3 жыл бұрын
Power up motors be like: XL motor = L motor L motor = XL motor
@imnotagamer19713 жыл бұрын
So cool. May be you can build your own Engine.
@McKrushi3 жыл бұрын
After reading philos page multiple times, watching some videos and testing myself I would say: If there is a difference in rotation speed and torque it is insignificant. Maybe there are internal differences which cause advantages/disadvanteges in longlivity or other properties under different load characteristics. But who knows.... :D Maybe do a long run test with medium load variation? Like rubberbands attached to a liftarm so it gets more and less stretched while the motor rotates (with downgearing) .
@facalaca31743 жыл бұрын
Szia Balázs. Én nagyon nagyon díjaznám hogy ha csinálnál ilyen legós videókat magyarul. Nagyon jók a videóid.
@jad3no3 жыл бұрын
Ive been curious about using two motors at the same time to drive the wheels. Have one on the other and run it in reverse
@juagasr38863 жыл бұрын
Its really cool to see such an expert like you in Lego modelling.
@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines3 жыл бұрын
The Motors may perform similar but they’re vastly different in design! Put an axle in both of them and try to spin it! You can feel the motor almost turn at the same rate you spin with the XL motor(only slightly geared) whilst the L motor is quite hard to spin meaning it’s majorly geared down. Think of the L motor like a small high revving engine whilst the XL is a low revving bigger one! With the gears inside the motor they end up producing very similar rpm and torque at the shaft. The XL will be better suited for harder, longer use and should be slightly more efficient! It does seem odd that at the shaft we use they’re virtually identical in performance but I’m pretty sure Lego knew what they were doing here. Guessing it’s down to reliability and energy efficiency when under hard load which is why the lighter vehicles probably use the smaller L motor and the heavy ones the XL.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Well except the Top Gear Rally Car uses the XL motor and it is very far from being heavy. I also wish LEGO knew what they were doing but I still cannot see the evidence yet.
@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick hey I’ve done an RPM test video if youed like to see! After watching your video I was intrigued to see how much quicker it was! Appears to be hardly quicker with no more torque! It’s bizarre!
@VacuousCat3 жыл бұрын
The max power output of the hub may be limited.
@timothycole92323 жыл бұрын
Have they made it so that to get the full potential of the XL motor you have to use a control play present control? Bit with the l motor you can use it how ever you want as they haven't coded In The limits of the XL motor in powered up uet?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Powered Up app limits the motors in any ways. Both motors were coded to run at 100%, I highly doubt LEGO would artificially limit the performance of the XL motor. What would be the point?
@bibasik73 жыл бұрын
The Control+ XL motor is pointless. Just another drawback of switching to Control+.
@Wf_djv3 жыл бұрын
He deseves a lot more subscribers
@Espen_Danielsen3 жыл бұрын
Problem is your batteries. As They are only 1,2 Volts you are undervolting the entire Control + brick. This leads to higher current going to the motors to preform the same task, and the XL motor requires more current than the L motor. By using the 1,2 V batteries the current becomes so high that the Control+ brick cuts power, and as the XL motor draw more power this will cut before the L, giving it worse acceleration and less torque. I do not know how high the current limit for the Control+ hub is, but in my experience it is fare lower than it was in the old PF hub (and even that was low). It would be interesting to see the same test again with alkaline batterie (non rechargable), and it would also be interesting if you could meassure the total batteri voltage with the rechargeable batteries compared to 1,5 Volt alkaline batteries. Normally a fresh 1,5 battery is close to 1,7 volts but quickly drops to 1.5 Volts when the chemistry starts (power drawn from the battery), but a old unused battery can be lower due to current drawn through the batterys internal resistance (this is why batteries are stamped with a date - after this the internal current leakage will have taped the of so much power they no longer are within spec).Normally a rechargeable AA battery is close to 1,35 Volts fully charges, and quickly drops to 1,2 Volts, but this is dependent on the chemestry, and some batteries can go as high as 1,5 Volts, and have as slower drop i voltage. I use DC/DC steppers to increas the voltage delivered to my PF hubs, and this allows them to deliver a lot more power before the current protection cuts in, making them useable with even heavy machines. I guess the same should be possible with the Controll+ Hub, but haven't looked into it yet. It may also be possible to remove or short circuit the current limiter... But I suggest you start with using better (higher volt) batteries to understand the true difference between these motors.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
It's a nice theory, but practice is different. XL motor still shows less torque and overall power than the L one even when I use alkaline batteries (yep, tested). Btw rechargeables are closer to 1.4V fully charged, and let's agree that an average alkaline is around 1.5V and then drops quicker than the rechargeable ones, so if you're considering a real life scenario and not a lab test then there should be no significant difference from this aspect. The "true difference" as you say should be clearly visible with average use and not only in very specific cases, e.g. when you use high-power brand new alkalines for about 5 minutes before their voltage starts to drop.
@andreikarpov4583 жыл бұрын
i like the xl
@nicklame26473 жыл бұрын
Swap motors between units, still same results? Balance weight difference between units, still same results?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
The 2 builds are exactly the same, no point to swap.Weight difference is less than 3%
@nopEEE.3 жыл бұрын
How to swap the cable for the motors
@BRANITOR3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see if you swap the gear ratio from 36:12 to 40:8 ! That’d be awesome to see if it’s worth it !!!
@ginewes3 жыл бұрын
I am really disappointed by Lego motors these days, there seems to be no further development. Would be curious to see what you think of the motor of the Mould King 18001 Buggy. I know, Mould King :-( ... but the motor performance.
@lmi9f93 жыл бұрын
It has slightly better efficiency and lower no-load current, So i would say you can try comparing runtime. From Philo's data and/or Sariel's motor app.
@lmi9f93 жыл бұрын
Opposite switch in 42099 would be interesting, and current measurement during test also.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in practical tests than such as runtime tests since from an average user's perspective that doe not change much. People expect XL motors to have higher torque than L motors and that's simply does not seem to be the case here.
@kasemite6193 жыл бұрын
That's weird, have you tried that with another XL motor? Or is legos definition of XL more planetary gears?
@mdgeist4723 жыл бұрын
Just open both motors to see what is inside.
@PhiloYT3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting tests! Glad it confirms my doubts about the usefulness of the XL motor... The only thing I can hope is an increased reliability in the long run at high power, but...
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I will do additional tests to have a better view on this, can't believe there's no purpose of the XL :)
@PhiloYT3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't believe that either, but...
@Kelkschiz3 жыл бұрын
Upon seeing this video I am pretty sure I will never buy an XL motor or a set with XL motors. What was TLG thinking... The old PF XL motors at least had a purpose.
@Falcobird013 жыл бұрын
What are the blocks needed on step 65 for? Cause I was thinking of swapping the gears out to make it run faster when I get it.
@The_Angry_BeEconomist3 жыл бұрын
maybe the fact that they both use the same batteries has something to do with it? like if two engines receive the same amount of fuel and air they will probably make the same amount of power
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Well except if one is the engine of a Suzuki Swift and the other is the engine of a Ford Raptor...
@RenanSuat3 жыл бұрын
I found a really good app from the powered up motors it's called Controls it's really good
@samugeller53022 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Are you Hungarian?😃
@RacingBrick2 жыл бұрын
Igen
@prettyuselesschannel64263 жыл бұрын
This is very logical... Example: L size underpants is smaller than XL size underpants. But the XL underpants breaks at the exact same moment the L does : )
@nwm3593 жыл бұрын
Try to test 2x L motors, 2x XL motors and the Last one combination of both. Use one L and one XL motor.
@ericnessler95863 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Maybe a comparison of the two motors in 42099 is in order?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Need to get another 42099 :)
@notasian76203 жыл бұрын
Honestly wish lego would release metal components with stronger higher rpm motors, i know a guy makee metal beams and axels on ebay
@miguelcortez76583 жыл бұрын
How can I connect my L motor and my rear Xl motor the app is given my me a hard time by passing the blues to the batter pack
@ghostofdoom22283 жыл бұрын
Very big maybe, but maybe the batteries were low.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not, as I said in the video they were fully charged in both cars
@shdwarli3 жыл бұрын
For your next test: Use the BrickControl 2 app and use a PS4 controler. As well use a L shape guide rail which should help with straight line comparison
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I made several videos with the BrickController2 app, you can check them out
@juliusengel55132 жыл бұрын
Maybe your Batteries are to weak for stressing these motors as hard
@patsonbricks3 жыл бұрын
i was thinking to make a new motor in to have more stength when driving in the garden on gras. but that shows that its not really nessesary
@janmensik9150 Жыл бұрын
what app you use for steep measurement ?
@joem51403 жыл бұрын
Great video. But of course the XL was not going to be as good. You had no stickers!
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣
@jozefkostelansky3 жыл бұрын
I have some Lego models, but I am not an expert. However, according video you have used just 3 batteries. Usually there are 6 batteries in the box. But I do not know, how they are connected - serial or paralel.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
You might want to check again, that battery holder has two sides for 3-3 batteries :)
@thomasvennekens4137 Жыл бұрын
if the fuse and the ptc inside the motor is removed , it will perform a lot lot better . lego is killing the fun with too many safety features
@Lefo12147 ай бұрын
can you do 42124 4x4
@davidrambharose16833 жыл бұрын
Brake open the plastic shell of the motor to see
@Dean_63611 ай бұрын
nah bro motor swapt a lego car :o
@GeorgeTsiros2 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed that the tie rod ( black O========O in the steering assembly) gets disconnected even with minor bumps?
@RacingBrick2 жыл бұрын
Not really
@GeorgeTsiros2 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick :(
@samday66212 жыл бұрын
The original buggy was test driven outside. Could the parts have loosened or have enough wear to effect the test?
@RacingBrick2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@marxpeklegotechnicdesign33 жыл бұрын
My guess: the amperage is limited in the software to match a L motor and will not fully power the XL motor. Did you try the buwizz app to power them? Maybe that makes a difference? (Edit) just noticed you used your own controls. It is either the batterybox or the batteries that limit the current...
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I'm almost sure it is not related to the software. If anything is limiting the motor's capabilities then it js the hub. Already preparing the next experiment :)
@gabecollins55853 жыл бұрын
Do XL motor for acceleration and L motor for torque so both sacrifice something
@giangoc1233 жыл бұрын
Can you test 42109 with XL as drive (default) vs 42109 with L as drive? Same for 42099 XL vs 42009 L.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
42109 is a straightforward swap but 42099 might be more tricky, the XL motors are structural part of the chassis.
@thatguynamedgeorge92183 жыл бұрын
Like a lot of the comments here, it is very likely that the hub is the problem, cutting out the XL faster than the L.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart3 жыл бұрын
The XL motor seems completely pointless now. I wonder how long it will take until we get something like an XXL motor that's actually better
@l0lcol0l3 жыл бұрын
xxxxl motor in late 2k26 incoming for sure.
@landmind6663 жыл бұрын
How hard would it be to change the drive motor and put in its place a pull back motor
@FreddyGonzalez-pixelboy3 жыл бұрын
Now that you have two L motors you can do a quicker version. Maybe sariel has done it before, if i'm not wrong.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I have many L motors, but as you said Sariel already filmed it so we know what is the outcome :)
@FreddyGonzalez-pixelboy3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick yes, but you will race the bricks out of it 😏
@johanrosenberg63423 жыл бұрын
The main benefit of the XL motor is that they'll probably be cheaper, because who wants to buy an inferior motor? Also it might be worth trying with stronger batteries (I've heard most rechargeable batteries are weaker) as well as down the line if any firmware updates come out.
@donguano98503 жыл бұрын
You could wire one more 1.2v battery to the batterypack and see what happens.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you expect to happen. Both versions had the exact same type and amount of batteries, if there's a difference at 9V then there should be a difference at a lower voltage as well.
@donguano98503 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking, would XL motor be better optimized with the correct voltage compared to L motor?
@donguano98503 жыл бұрын
More torque perhaps?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I don't get this "correct voltage" theory. The fully charged LADDA battery pack has around 8.4V. Alkalines start at 9V but drop the voltage quickly, so only brand new alkalines should have any visible difference. And all properties like torque or speed should be proportional to the voltage, so if both the L & XL motor gets a similar voltage then any difference between them should be proportionally visible compared to a higher or lower voltage.
@adrian_zombturtle1483 жыл бұрын
Why not make use power functions in it ??
@Bricksfaction3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Maybe because of the higher amper XL motors consume or voltage. you should try it via the modifitaction of philo with 8,4 volt 2 cell lipo which i have in my rocky model. but i don't think it will change. and you should always make model's weight same not to remain any ? . thank you )
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
The weight difference is less than 3%, that should not play any significant role
@Bricksfaction3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick yes agree but you have said maybe it's because of the weight difference. So thats why i ve said it's better not to leave any question marks in the minds and eliminate all the factors to test more accurately . Best Regards
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
@@Bricksfaction next time I'll make the weight equal, I just need better weather for a longer run outside :)
@Bricksfaction3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick i will try to test it with powerful philo lipo mod in new technic hub. xl motor should have hp advantage . othervise it's completely useless.
@Unbrickme3 жыл бұрын
2:57 So only the powered up XL is faster than the power functions XL, the rest of the PU motors are slower than their respective PF counterparts. I assume the internal planetary gear sets were adjusted for the powered up motors for more torque on medium and large motors, but the XL motor was adjusted for speed as opposed to torque.
@m4ty2s_shreds3 жыл бұрын
Jó néha belefutni random magyarokba :)
@adrian_zombturtle1483 жыл бұрын
Hmmm so I guess XL just means that the Motor uses up more space and is worse :/
@priyamulchandani7700 Жыл бұрын
Put a lego buggy motor in it
@yeonminchung80093 жыл бұрын
Maybe just a bigger capacity
@godofthewired3 жыл бұрын
is it possible that the XL motor just used up the batteries quicker so there was less charge for the later test ?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I did the test several times, and the batteries were fully charged between them. I just did not record all attempts.
@zbhorizon3 жыл бұрын
I guess u know its a voltage issue
@zbhorizon3 жыл бұрын
There is not enough voltage for the xl motor
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@zbhorizon3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick . The battery box does not have enough voltage for the motor. It eventually get fixed in powered up 2.0
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, ok. A time traveling expert.
@allyoucanvape80243 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to alter the gearbox in order to produce more torque with the XL motor
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
There's no gearbox, only a gear driving the differential. You need to replace the differential as well to have a different gearing, but in that case it'll become pretty slow. You would get a crawler that looks like a buggy :)
@Stealth_Simogamer3 жыл бұрын
i want to see the unboxing buwizz 3.0 pro
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
I want to see it too
@RedDriver1802 жыл бұрын
Hmm. And then why is exist a PU XL motor? Power Functions remains the only good system.
I upgraded my buggy with 2 XL motors, now it's super strong
@xtremescy2 жыл бұрын
What about M motor? will it be faster?
@RacingBrick2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not
@unogazzy843 жыл бұрын
4:30 This was also my thought when I saw the specs of the L and XL motor. The torque of the XL is exactly the same as the L motor according to the specs. Talk about useless.
@nickvledder3 жыл бұрын
You need extra power... kind of “rocket fuel”. Use a LiPo instead of these batteries and the speed will improve drastically.
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
The whole exercise is not about the power but the comparison of the 2 motors to see what is the difference. I could easily wire it up with a 3S LiPo but that's not the point.
@nickvledder3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick Wouldn't 3s be too much?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
@@nickvledder depends more on the controller, the motors should be able to handle it
@nickvledder3 жыл бұрын
RacingBrick Else, LiFePo might be worthwhile to consider. Little less votage per cell and stronger in withstanding mistreatment.
@racingnerds6882 жыл бұрын
Fix the buggy motor
@nunojduarte3 жыл бұрын
What ir you use L motors on the 42099?
@RacingBrick3 жыл бұрын
XL motors are structural parts of the chassis there so it's not that trivial to swap.
@nunojduarte3 жыл бұрын
@@RacingBrick yes i know, this was a suggestion for the long Run! ;)
@SomeNameHere3 жыл бұрын
the L Mottor wasnt used cuz it makes no sence.... NONONO it was used cuz its like 3 cents cheaper to produce, and lego (how it became) wantts to squeeze outt as much money as possible out of the junk they produce nowadays