Enemy at the Gates | Legend of Korra Book 4 Ep 5 Reaction

[@YaBoyRoshi]

Sheesh I know a lot of yall gonna be upset with us this reaction but we stand behind the way we feel. Korra's naivety knows no bounds and for her to think she could kindly ask Kuvira to leave was foolish. Some of you wonder why we don't keep the same energy for Aang and the reason is simple. During ATLA Aang was a child. Korra is a grown ass adult with much better support at that so its not really comparable. Again dont take this as us not enjoying the show because we love it! Korra is just written in an extremely frustrating way at times.

[@augxman]

Kora trash

[@DiegoManCas]

a

[@Erik_Montesinos]

Yup an opinion is an opinion Korra dope but she don’t sit right with everyone

[@sonicvenom8292]

Korra at this time didn’t really know what was happening with Kuvira other than what details she was given on her way there, so I wouldn’t expect her to go full blown, unlike before. I think some people forget this because the viewer knows a lot more of the situation than some of the characters often in this series, since we see both sides where they usually see only one.

[@madelynwintrick7577]

All facts

[@jonathanrobinson198]

I’d be pissed if I was Korra. I’ve been poison free for a couple hours and people out here trying to start a war and asking for help. Like damn, let me eat and take a nap.😅

[@Omegafire17]

That's a universal hero/protagonist problem, when you think about it, so Korra wouldn't be alone if feeling that way XD "No matter how times you save the world, it _always_ manages to get back into jeopardy again. Sometimes I just want it to _stay_ saved, you know? I feel like the maid: I _just_ cleaned up this mess! Can we keep it clean for- for *TEN* minutes!?"

[@bubbles784]

@@Omegafire17 Is that from the Incredibles? Just wondering.

[@nicholasduca5221]

@@bubbles784 that's exactly what that's from

[@mars99]

@@Omegafire17 That's what Tenzin planned for the air nomads to be, the backup for Korra when she was recovering, and they did a pretty good job for close to 3 years, until world leaders let Kuvira grow too strong.

[@xfabian21]

Thats exactly it! The world needs to stop depending on the Avatar to solve every problem. In the past it worked out, cause individuel people couldn't become so powerful. But now in the modern time in Korra, people like Kuvira (normal benders) can already start a war.

[@InevitableVitare]

We've known since season 2 that Zhu Li was a cold, heartless war machine. Of course she can fight.

[@OutOfPocket-h9e]

I wouldn't say she's heartless. But hell yeah she's a war machine!

[@Tam_Hawkins]

@@OutOfPocket-h9e Varrick described her in season two as a cold heartless war machine. That is probbably what InevitableVitare meant.

[@OutOfPocket-h9e]

@@Tam_Hawkins I know 😆

[@JeromeProductions]

Yup

[@arjunwali9885]

I think korra was also negotiating based off her prior and limited experience with kuvira. Remember, as far as korra really knows, this is the woman who fought the red lotus with her AND saved her dad. Props to her for at least trying to avoid a fight, knowing her weakened state and how shes matured. Obviously its a bad plan but she wasnt really playing with a full deck of info

[@TheSuperNats]

Exactly

[@isaiahcaston4539]

I think they also forget that the avatars *job* is not to encroach on world affairs. Kuvira may be becoming a dictator but as long as she isn't subjugating the rest of the world, it's not the avatars job to intervene. Korra really had no business there from a political standpoint

[@rjai5003]

Korra: “Hey, could you stop trying to take over the earth kingdom?” Kuvira: “No” Korra: 👁👄👁

[@aaronreed2424]

😭

[@スノーハッピー]

Korra: "Understandable, have a nice day."

[@KlooKloo]

there was an entire-ass conversation after that (that they talked over)

[@aaronreed2424]

@@スノーハッピー lmaoooooo

[@dub_slade1179]

Korra: ._.

[@jss2141]

Asami's father pulled a Howard Stark in saying Asami was his greatest creation.

[@Max25670]

Am I wrong or didn't he tell her this in the finale? Seems less impactful if he already told her once before the end.

[@shinryouzen]

@@Max25670 i think it’s to show his growth but it was understandable for Asami to still distrust him after everything he’d done. Because he said it here and made his decision for what he did in the finale, I feel like his ACTIONS became even more impactful because his words back here were true, one of the most truthful things he ever told Asami. Spoiler for those who havent completed the series So instead of these words being the highlight, it was his sacrifice that was highlighted and had more impact which I think was done well.

[@erickeker8761]

I am not sure.. but Korra was not released first?

[@Justyn_Lim_]

@@erickeker8761 Doesn't really matter which came first lol. The phrase is the same as saying "I love you" since it's a pretty common phrase. And you can't plagarise that.

[@christopherbacon1077]

Which fits since he basically was Evil Howard Stark

[@dub_slade1179]

i'm rlly glad that i found these guys when they were reacting to atla

[@adlersanon9383]

Me too

[@kinskyduclona985]

Fr

[@niksniks4183]

Big facts

[@gabecajamarca]

Yea me to

[@Ivytheterrible]

Same

[@marqueschacon905]

I think it’s important to realize Korra’s view of Kuvira is different from ours. While we know she is a dictator, Korra sees someone who saved her father, worked for Su, and is helping to restore order to an Earth Kingdom ravaged by anarchy. She wasn’t there for all the internal negotiations or when Kuvira declared an empire. She didn’t see any of the bad impacts (due to being disconnected from the world). I don’t think she approached the situation as a negotiation because she didn’t feel that Kuvira was unreasonable. Imagine if Su was in charge and she talked to Su. Do you think Korra would even think about attempting a better plan just in case Su betrayed her? Remember, Korra has a generally positive view of Kuvira up until this point due to her direct experiences with her

[@rsmcleary]

I mean korra was trying to stay neutral and not rush head first. Her trying to be peaceful is character development

[@demetrivilliers1692]

exactly

[@alexwink9533]

Yeah that shows a lot of character development

[@xmant8842]

Ikr. If anything, the fact that she took the pacifist route shows that she is truly trying to become a proper avatar. Avatars are meant to bring peace and equality. You can't have war and peace. Trying to avoid war by not attacking is exactly what an avatar should do. Plus, she didnt even know much about kuvira. I say if people will blame anyone, blame the others for not telling her everything.

[@AndrewsiPhoneable]

Nah she should have stood against the aggressors, unfortunately she went to convince the good guys to be conquered but just "peacefully" conquered lol. She still just rushes in without a plan, not much character development there

[@no1guy825]

these idiots are too hot-tempered. not only do they want this show to be Dragonball Z...but they're arrogant enough to think they know best.

[@Max25670]

Sue's son definitely lets himself get pegged by Kuvira.

[@controlman7490]

Yea I can concur with that.

[@riley8385]

god i wish that were me

[@controlman7490]

@@riley8385 uhhh chief...

[@KlooKloo]

@@controlman7490 why do you think guys have a g-spot up their ass? don't knock it

[@PaintedHoundie]

oh no...not the metal bending strap on

[@devongrant7620]

Zhu Li skill set: scientist, ninja, negotiator, gundam pilot, massage therapist, professional tea maker, cameraman, martial artist, girl scout, and caregiver.

[@Samus7000]

Who’s Julie? Do you mean Zhu Li?

[@OutOfPocket-h9e]

You forgot foot scrubber and recon

[@devongrant7620]

@@OutOfPocket-h9e Right you are 👍🏾

[@devongrant7620]

@@Samus7000 Right you are 🙌🏽

[@kotathetragic9738]

@@devongrant7620 Zhu li must've been special forces or sum she highly underrated. No CAP!

[@trinityhauyne]

y’all hate on her for being too hardheaded and running into fights then y’all shit on her for trying to resolve things peacefully lmaooo

[@kotathetragic9738]

RIGHT! Like make up ya'll minds dumbasses 😭

[@killua1293]

The most frustrating thing about people that complain about Korra 😭 Y’all hated her for being ready to fight first in the beginning but now when she wants to peacefully resolve things they’re still upset

[@0ddkid7]

We all know the real reason most people are blind to the paralells of her and aang and hate just korra ♀️

[@mycelia_ow]

If she actually had success succeeding at either, she wouldn't get so much flack.

[@mycelia_ow]

@@0ddkid7 not really, she's had way more advantages than Aang including his spirit. She's older, White Lotus trained her entire life, etc.

[@Purple_Eclipse]

Korra walked into that situation without knowing the whole story because she was m.i.a. for so long. She had no idea how much people and things had changed since she was gone. She forgot that time continued and everyone kept living their lives while she was so depressed, stuck in the past, and had sunk so low that she couldn't even tell there was still metal in her body. Everyone else has years of experience and training on her now.

[@gordonchell4364]

Plus everyone neglected to tell Korra about the Prison Camps and just why they oppose Kuvira. Of course, Korra is going to try and reason with her, the only information she is getting is "She can't be reasoned with."

[@Purple_Eclipse]

@@gordonchell4364 She was not prepared to confront Kuvira at all.

[@daisuke910]

Just like when get back from vacation and everything at work changed like what the hell. Plus Korra knows Kuvira, cuz she saved his dad's life....

[@Purple_Eclipse]

@@daisuke910 Korra thought she knew Kuvira but she forgot that 2 or 3 years had passed since then. And as we see in this episode Kuvira had a different mindset about how to reunite the earth kingdom from the start.

[@daisuke910]

@@Purple_Eclipse well people changed especially after that amount of time. People changed after a semester break away lol

[@racool911]

Honestly I love how differently Korra reacts to the Earth Kingdom situation compared to the Water Tribe situation.

[@tylersimmons2154]

I agree. I get how Roshi thinks she's naive, but I think it's important to weight that experience with how she attempted a peaceful resolution here. She's growing in maturity (if not the most wise yet)

[@crowmaster9652]

Dude shes the same!! Literally agrees with the enemy like tf

[@tylersimmons2154]

@@crowmaster9652 she agrees with what kuvira is saying about unifying. She's been in hiding this whole time she doesn't know anything about the labor camps. She sees a war about to break out and is trying for peace instead of encouraging war like she did with her tribe. Even aang tried to talk to reason with ozai at their final confrontation, because he knew that violence should be avoided if possible.

[@crowmaster9652]

@@tylersimmons2154 yea but aangs reason is because of his monk culture. Korra is trying to be peaceful because she dumb. You got power use that power to stop assholes like kuvira. Bruh she gives up like, if i were the avatar id be like tf is goin on here? Na there aint gonn be a war unless you want deez hands(shows actual avatar power) Kuvira would be like yeah im not going to try again. Korra is a mary sue that dont know shit what a horrible character. DONT SIMP FOR THIS TRASH AVATAR

[@gianibarrola5064]

@@crowmaster9652 dude chill, it's just a cartoon character, don't get your panties twisted

[@Ozai75]

I think the major difference between Aang and Korra's emotional maturity has nothing to do with their ages and has everything to do with the fact that Aang's entire nation was annihilated and he literally had no one to rely on. That causes someone to grow up fast, despite how physically old they are. And even at the end Aang was hopelessly naive (Not listening to his past lives and sparing Ozai and Deus Ex Machina'ing his way to learning Spirit Bending) vs Korra who has literally had everything handed to her on a silver platter. She's never been forced to really grow up, and only through these trials is her emotional and spiritual self catching up to her physical maturity. It was the opposite with Aang, where it was his physical maturity that had to catch up to his emotional and spiritual maturity. I'm glad you enjoyed the show.

[@beanotaylor1827]

Wonderful with words

[@soumyadeepmondal6130]

Aang had literally travelled the world with the monks by the age of 12 His mental age is already close to a middle aged person by 12. Compared to Korra, who was sheltered for 17 years and never seeing the outside world in her own. Yeah she will act naive. Plus the 3 years healing gap also is the issue. She was again stuck for 3 years at one place. Otherwise she could've utilised the next 3 years to gain more knowledge of the world. And aid her character growth. Basically it all paused for 3 years.

[@manlikeghidorah1994]

Bruh roshi’s laugh is too contagious💀‼️

[@deklin.14.official39]

The problem here is that korra is trying to pull an Aang, when she fully needs to act like korra

[@sgcastle8389]

Also she sucks at pulling an Aang. Like Kuvira just responded with two sentences and Korra Waver, she is not in the good mindset right and she talk to an earthbender, those guys stand still when the boulder come to them, it's their nature to be sturborn.

[@deklin.14.official39]

@@sgcastle8389 exactly. Like i love korra. But the writers tried to apply character development in this situation when really all it did was aggravate viewers

[@purgosino]

Gurl should have pulled a Kyoshi.

[@aeriarc6946]

@@deklin.14.official39 didn’t aggravate me one bit, in my eyes, I thought she was going in and trying to solve situation peacefully instead violence like she done so she doesn’t nearly die again. I always like that actually

[@deklin.14.official39]

@@aeriarc6946 i do too. But it kinda backfired. This is, in a way, not the time to talk bc kuvira was not gonna negotiate

[@jjrollins313]

Yes, Korra was being somewhat naive but I think it also plays into the fact that she wants to try a different approach this time than brute force.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@yukijames1321 Because even though she wants to try a different approach, she probably still doesn’t want to run away from her problems. That’s been a big part of her character, every time people have said they need to hide her (whether it was from Amon, Unalaq or Zaheer) she disagreed because she wanted to help. She spent her whole life locked up in a facility training to be the avatar, and so when people try to just tell her to walk away from something I imagine it’s not easy for her She also probably feels responsibility of being the avatar, especially after having been gone for so long, to fix the situation and bring balance. To her, letting Zaofu get taken would probably go directly against that Basically, she doesn’t want to run from her problems (like she did in Korra alone whenever she turned away from Republic City) but she still wants to try and approach things from a different angle, apply the lessons she learned the hard way

[@jjrollins313]

@@yukijames1321 You have a good point but what she did was rational thinking as well. Kuvira just might've turned away, but korra clearly hasn't been in the loop of what's been happening anyways. We dont know if that would've changed anything either. That weapon is coming to Republic City whether or not they find out earlier. Who knows🤷🏾‍♂️

[@wolfbearice]

In my perspective, the reason why Korra insisted to go directly to Zaofu is to prevent any unnecessary blood spill between the two parties. And to also gain the appropriate information from the source of it, Sui and Kovirra.

[@crowmaster9652]

@@wolfbearice reminds me of the ravine episode in the last airbender. Actions speaks louder than words. I know it aint the show but no build up to her "peaceful" confrontation failed because nothing she did supported it. Shes been a jerk the entire show.

[@debooty714]

@@crowmaster9652 I mean the buildup is the literal years she spent crippled, you think anyone who suffered from a life threatening fight would want to get physical again rather than talking shit out?

[@bealohman8253]

Korra is frustrating, but realistically flawed sometimes because in the first 3 seasons she rushed in headfirst when she shouldn't have and the last season she stayed neutral when she should have been more aggressive. It's all about the context, Korra. Hopefully she fixed that during the rest of her Avatar career. lol.

[@dee-ss6ns]

hi keep in mind that she tried to reason with Kuvira bc she was trying to keep peace .. if it wasn’t obvious, she had little to no details abt Kuvira bc she was recovering and her trying to negotiate with her clearly shows growth, we all know book 1 Korra would just try to start shit without thinking but u can see that she’s maturing and growing and bashing her for doing that is ... weird.

[@TheGloryXros]

And??? She should've came with more convincing words to say than just "Please stop." She had literally NO adaptation to the conversation, no leverage, no showing of authority, etc. And no, I don't buy this "she had little to no details about Kuvira" excuse, because she learned quite a bit through Suyin. Literally learned about HER ORIGINS IN BECOMING A MILITANT LEADER. Her simply not rushing into fighting first is fine & all, but we need to see COMPETENCE. Here, she went in with literally no real convincing.

[@dee-ss6ns]

The GloryXros literally all suyin told her was that she was coming to Zaufo .. she didn’t have any knowledge of what Kuvira was doing to the other states ... and true ur right abt her not giving her real convincing but at least she tried to stop an upcoming war?

[@TheGloryXros]

@@dee-ss6ns And she did VERY LITTLE actual convincing of her.... >_>

[@dee-ss6ns]

The GloryXros she thought back to when kuvira saved her dad and she also thought bc she’s the avatar maybe it would help Kuvira listen to her .. my point is that when she tries to be negotiable, she gets hated in but when she’s not she also gets hated on? it’s like she can never catch a break and this comment section proves my point.

[@TheGloryXros]

@@dee-ss6ns AND??? Her conversation with Kuvira to try & stop her had VERY little words in exchange....Heck, it ended on KUVIRA's terms, not Korra's! Korra ended with thinking, "Gee, maybe I should tell Suyin..." What does that tell you???

[@FelipeF78]

I don't mind Korra trying to talk first, but then Kuvira was pretty clear about taking the city one way or another and Korra still kept all passive and agreed to talk to Sue into surrendering.

[@crowmaster9652]

Bruh im done with this shows logic , but ill still watch and support the reactions.

[@sicarius8900]

She rolled a 0 on the speech check

[@soumyadeepmondal6130]

Plus we don't know what could've actually happened if Korra actually got to talk to Su as well. Su started the war as soon as she infiltrated to assassinate Kuvira lol

[@aaronreed2424]

An important thing to next for the next episode. Korra is still not 100% herself. U can notice the small details like her arms have lost a lot of muscle mass over the years. She’s not in the shape to be fighting right now. I understand y y’all were frustrated, but her trying to talk to kuvira may have been foolish, but it was an example of character development on her part. Trying a different approach rather than rushing into the fight. The next episode, yea she gets beat. She’s still suffering mentally and physically at this point. Her body is getting over the poison and she still has ptsd. That doesn’t just go away when the poison is out.

[@leenahxlxnx8621]

exactly !

[@dee-ss6ns]

yup ;))

[@rsmcleary]

I’m already imagining them talking shit about this fight

[@christianisaac1924]

And i feel like even if she did beat kuvira, there were still mad supporters who would want to just continue waging war anyways. Korra trying to settle this peacefully was in her mind the best course of action when Zaofu didn’t have many defenses, and it’s not like the United Republic can be trusted to send backup. I feel like they just blindly drag korra all the time

[@aaronreed2424]

@@rsmcleary I’m imaging it’s mainly gonna be lupa doin that, but the guy in the middle(I keep forgetting his name) may crack a few jokes but still will understand. Sheera is prolly gonna put it together very quick as to why she would’ve lost

[@mmayes237]

Korra trying to pull an Aang when she needs to pull a Korra and kick some ass

[@aaronreed2424]

Korra can’t catch a break 😭

[@demetrivilliers1692]

@@aaronreed2424 IKR

[@tornado100able]

Exactly🤦🏻

[@wolfbearice]

I think Korra pulled an Avatar move instead. Just like the previous avatars she just wanted to try to resolve the conflict by talking first rather than force.

[@mmayes237]

@@wolfbearice true not to mention she is rusty and hasn't recovered so she couldn't make any threats if she wanted to 😅😅

[@keanancupido]

Bolin: Sheera: You dummy. Look at the dumb look on his face Me: 🤣🤣

[@OperationDeton8]

Yo, she was *cheesed* dog! 🤣🤣

[@keanancupido]

@@OperationDeton8 🤣🤣

[@slobertooth1358]

Korra in season's 1-3: I'm gonna fight my enemies and ask questions later "Shes so hotheaded its annoying" Korra in season 4: I don't want to resort to violence if necessary and would rather try diplomacy first with my position as avatar much like Aang tried to do "She's trash, can't she see she has to fight, why isn't she fighting!?"

[@ngn6708]

aang was a monk and a child

[@Ockto_]

True. But your dumb if you think, "can you please leave?" could work.

[@masonblack3461]

@@Ockto_ you're*

[@resolvedfate1295]

The difference is aang was younger and was a monk. So he way of doing things make sense.

[@vijaymais7378]

@@yukijames1321 I agree

[@BlackBurrito9073]

Kuvira has pretty good reasons to do what she's doing... 1.- The Earth Kingdom was slowly falling apart, it desperately needed someone to unify it. 2.- Su was given the chance to become the next Earth Queen and share Sao Fu's greatness with the rest of the Nation, but she (for some reason) refused. 3.- Kuvira originally wanted Su to be the Earth Queen because she believed she could be a good new ruler, but cuz' she refused Kuvira felt that she had to step up in order to not let another incompetent ruler take charge. 4.- for some people what Kuvira is doing it's the same as what the Fire Nation did during The Last Airbender, but the big difference here is that Kuvira and her army's goal is the complete control over THEIR OWN NATION, while the Fire Nation wanted to take control over the whole world (and yes, even if Republic City it's a somewhat Neutral ground to all Nations, it is still part of the Earth Kingdom) But not get the wrong idea... i perfectly know that despite wanting the best for her homeland... Kuvira became a very manipulative and power-hungry woman and because of that her leadership became very Dictator-like. PD: Amon might be the most Terrifying antagonist and Zaheer might be the coolest antagonist. But i feel like Kuvira is the Antagonist with the best and most justified motivation and goals, and that's why she is my favorite.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Imagine if I had spirit vine technology then the West would fear me

[@jhonreyramirez8910]

Yeah.........

[@emmavandendool6877]

I literally see you every episode lmfaoooo

[@controlman7490]

Bruh Kim the only thing you should focus on having is a new diet my boi. What you like 300 pounds of pure dough bruh. You can't be threatening the west; when you're threatening ya health😂. (No hate though Kim; long live NK lol)

[@gurrenmati3551]

@@controlman7490 LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

[@Max25670]

bruh I'm mad at myself for finding these kim jung un comments funny every time 😂

[@issaphae9659]

book 4 is so well-written but definitely tougher to watch than book 3. we know what the avatar is capable of and watching korra struggle for such a long duration of it is not much fun.

[@wolfbearice]

I actually kinda like how she struggled during this season. I mean during book 1-3 she showed how brave and strong she is in the face of the enemy. But in this season we saw her cowardice and the weaker side of her. Reminding us all that despite being a powerful avatar, she is still a human being.

[@felipelara81]

And that's exactly why i love the writing on this book

[@M0M0117]

War, depression, PTSD, losing close friends or in this case your past lives aren’t supposed to be fun. That’s the whole point of this season, it wasn’t easy. Aangs entire culture, way of life and people were genocided and it barely affected him. Sure he was sad every once in a while, but an ordinary 12 year old kid would be completely broken. It wasn’t realistic in my opinion.

[@KEEMchoosen777]

@@wolfbearice same

[@issaphae9659]

M0M0 117 i know. i’m just trying to address why book 4 had a more mixed reception than book 3, which one could argue is more “rewarding” throughout

[@nicksetzer4563]

Kuvira: * projects strength, power, willing to fight for her ideals * Roshi: nah that shits wack Korra: * wants to make peace and protection with words * Roshi: nah that shits wack

[@Kidapollo92]

Suyin's flashback shows how she denied the offer to take provisional power over the Earth Kingdom, which was referenced in "The Coronation". The energy extracted from the spirit vines produces a purple energy beam akin to Vaatu's, even with the same sound effect. Zhu Li brings up in disgust the time when she scrubbed Varrick's calloused foot with pumice stone in "The Terror Within".

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

"Okay. I'm Varrick, of Varrick Industries, International" *you don't say*

[@agris9074]

Korra is trying to be more peaceful so that is why her negotiation skills are trash.

[@YaBoyRoshi]

yeah, super trash lol. I hope none of yall ever try to negotiate holding no cards lol

[@kurols6453]

@@YaBoyRoshi Kinda true but you underestimate the "position" of the avatar it's nlt nothing some conflicts could be avoided If the avatar just come and say "don't make me mad" but Kuvira is just so far into her ideal while korra doesn't really get a lot about the situation and if I were her I would see that kuvira actually does her best to restore balance in her own way and is doing more than Su.

[@bigdogstatus4528]

Nah shes just trash

[@bigdogstatus4528]

YaBoyRoshi facts

[@kurols6453]

@@yukijames1321 It's a running theme sure but Korra knew the kuvira who saved her dad and fought with her against the red lotus and who is working to restore balance so I would say out of all the villains she would be the one more prone to respect the avatar position.

[@stevedonnie4077]

I love this series because it lets it's main character fail in real ways and treats her like an actual person. I also love atla just as much and think the characters are great too, but man having an avatar who's a 12 year old prodigy somehow really kills me at times.

[@lycarmor2746]

“Korra is just, she’s special man” -Lupa San

[@wolfbearice]

It's so good to see Korra os the one one who wishes for a dialogue to prevent any conflict. Instead of just storming it out and use force. This shows how much she have grown and that she is a proper Avatar now.

[@TheGloryXros]

That's not much growth.....And she did it VERY POORLY.

[@wolfbearice]

@@TheGloryXros How did she do it very poorly?

[@TheGloryXros]

@@wolfbearice You saw Roshi, Lupa & Sheera's reaction....She literally just came with little actual convincing words to get her to stop.

[@wolfbearice]

@@TheGloryXros That's because she is still not done with the discussion. She is listening to the side of each group. She is still weighing weather or not Kuvira's action and decision is justified.

[@AlehGea]

@@wolfbearice Don't waste your time with ATLA fanboys

[@fdlarts7676]

Korra doesn't have enough charismatic points at this point

[@uhohmykokoro1616]

It’s so funny watching people arguing to the death about fictional characters 😂

[@TheGloryXros]

Why not??? If your story has nothing to actually discuss or reflect upon, that tells alot about the lack of quality your show has.

[@uhohmykokoro1616]

@@TheGloryXros people can discuss characters and stories, of course. But in this comment section? Folks are getting downright nasty with each other and that’s just kinda lame

[@lol-ot4pn]

@@TheGloryXros Its still fictional though. Made by an actual humanbeing with real problems. Once you realise that ,these stories become less grand as they were.

[@TheGloryXros]

@@uhohmykokoro1616 Sure, the nastiness is bad, but discussion & disagreement in general is fine. Why be against that?

[@TheGloryXros]

@@lol-ot4pn And??? Doesn't make the lessons they try to portray any less true, or the entertainment they try to bring.

[@krazytreRTM]

Didn't Aang try to do the same thing with Ozai during the comet? Ozai's fleet was literally setting fire to the ground and was ready to scorch all in their path, and Aang's first words was to try and dissuade Ozai from continuing his plans. In both ATLA and LoK, we've constantly been told (we as in the viewers) that the Avatar is supposed to try and maintain peace. That's why we usually see the Avatar try and talk things out first before trying to go into a fight. Korra did it. Aang did it (in the comics as well). Roku did it. Hell, I think Kiyoshi did it. Talk things out first. When you realize that talking things out is not going to work then it is time to try force to put a stop to them. Not only that, but Korra was pretty much disconnected from the world since she's been away, and when she came back she was dealing with ptsd and was training with Toph. The only thing she knows about Kuvira and what's going on in the world is what she was told on her way to Zaofu. At this point in LoK, I wouldn't say she's naive. She was naive when it first started, back in Book One, but she's matured *a lot* since then. In Book One she was extremely naive. She thought Republic City was a utopia where people were "living it up" and there were no issues. You guys say that Aang was 12 and Korra's an adult, but that doesn't mean she's above the typical standards the Avatar's before her have set. Kiyoshi was also an adult and she warned Chin the Conqueror *before* splitting from the mainland. What Korra did was the exact same thing we've seen done with other avatars, and actually shows how she's matured since the beginning of the show, so I don't really get why you guys are getting on to her about her decision.

[@bigdogstatus4528]

Yeah but thats because aang didnt want to kill ozai. Korras just trash lol

[@marlongreen6448]

@@bigdogstatus4528 U literally just read a whole good analysis of the situation that connects to something Aang AND the avatars have done yet still called Korra trash? Smh.

[@ryzmckenzie]

No she's definitely naive. At this point she's way more experienced in battle than Aang ever was in ATLA. Her "maturity" should have told her you can't negotiate with a dictator

[@bigdogstatus4528]

Ryan facts

[@Max25670]

I think people are just mad at Korra that she doesn't have hands lol. Aang, Roku, and even Kyoshi want to do things peacefully, if not, then they can easily rock everyone's sh*t lol.

[@khayta3110]

This group just makes me feel like I’m part of the family....

[@PhillyTK]

That's sad as hell 😕

[@khayta3110]

@@PhillyTK wdym

[@otrupper4869]

Cruel twist is that Kuvira did improve the Earth Kingdom, its people and was a good leader at the expense of being a dictator.

[@vijaymais7378]

I do understand why y'all are upset with Korra but that situation can be interpreted in different ways....But regardless of your opinion on Korra you guys are still entertaining so I'll definitely keep watching🙂. And next episode is THAT episode lol.... I predict that the comments for the next episode will be full of korra Hate 😔. I'm not prepared lol

[@loverofmusic774]

im really dreading it lmao tbh it was really frustrating when I watched it, and i was rooting for her lmao i know nobody is perfect but i just want something good to happen for her ya know XD

[@vijaymais7378]

@@loverofmusic774 Yh same 😫

[@crowmaster9652]

You know you should at least acknowledge that korra is a flawed character with heavy plot armor to prop her up to look heroic when shes not.

[@TheSnoopKat]

Korra asking her to leave isn't what pissed me off. When she genuinely considered talking to Sue about surrendering, every neuron in my brain simultaneously released "what the fuck" chemicals. She should have went Avatar state right there and clapped her.

[@TheJannasmith]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FIR THEM TO SEE THE SPIRIT WEAPON.

[@PaiDiMat]

I'm sad they didn't think about Vaatu seeing it. It's basically the same thing

[@TheJannasmith]

Antimo Di Matteo yeah there is a lot of references Avatar that they don’t think about too. More comparisons than references.

[@kevin4Xajstribling]

Korra did not want to pull out the big guns just yet. And your forgot that kuvera saved korra's dad's life

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

Kuvera: I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[@lake2358]

No one: Suyin: Go into the avatar state and fold her like laundry

[@lonelywolf6180]

Its so lame to see how people dislike Korra for wanting to talk things through when Aang always wanted the peaceful solution like any other fucking avatar in existense. Nobody took any life lightly.

[@ryzmckenzie]

I said this in a different comment but I don't think Korra and Aang can be compared in this situation. She's way more experienced and Kuvira gave so many signs she wasn't going to negotiate

[@rexarsenio9447]

Except she talked with the conqueror and got swayed lol

[@amansahota6043]

@@ryzmckenzie what about aang trying to peacefully negotiate when ozai pulled up with air ships ready to destroy the world?

[@PxndaCakes]

@@ryzmckenzie Actually, Aang was more experienced in these situations. When he was living in the air temples, he was still allowed to travel the world, making all sorts of friends. Korra only started working on her reasoning skills 4 years ago at most. :P

[@gemelwalters2942]

@@ryzmckenzie her experience is why she's trying peace. Are you ignoring that she's been a hothead rushing in for several seasons. After he convo with old Toph about the villains she started to question whether things couldn't have ended differently. Go back and listen to Toph's words

[@Diegesis]

Bro, can we talk about how Avatar became a mech anime?

[@Darothakiaaa]

Exactly,I hope they don’t fck up the next Avatar!

[@khayta3110]

Me if I was doing math homework w Sheera 6:44

[@loverofmusic774]

Would literally pay to have sheera tutor me in math and call me a dumbass😂😂

[@jadespower]

korra has only ever heard good things about kuvira, the person who fought alongside her against the red lotus and who also saved her father's life, in the three years she was recovering. she also literally JUST got the poison out and was a little rusty (like kuvira said), but then has to face an entire army basically by herself, of course she will try to negotiate first. she knows kuvira had good in her and it makes sense that maybe as the avatar she could try to convince her. a reckless, going straight into the fight approach has almost never brought her far, which shows how much she has grown and learned. i mean at the end she did have to fight her, but only after the peaceful negotiations (from her side) didn’t work. also korra has experienced a lot of trauma and pain, hence why toph said that korra could’ve unintentionally resisted recovering, cause she was scared of getting hurt (or worse) again. so right after that, standing in front of a whole army would obviously make her not want to immediately jump straight into the fight.

[@maestrulgamer9695]

9:01-Nah,that's what Kyoshi would do.

[@ChocoGxd]

I wish these LOK reactions could drop every day! they're great

[@levisamom5069]

Best girl Zhu Li did the thing finally

[@AndrewKendall71]

I think they had a hard time seeing Kuvira coming because they had just dealt with someone with exactly the opposite villain plan - complete anarchy, killing all leaders and order. But Zaheer is how they got Kuvira - the anarchist led people naturally to want someone bringing order. It's pretty brilliant story telling.

[@LordZeebee]

This does however show some much needed character growth. This is basically the first time Korra hasn't immediately responded to a problem with violence. Like, good on her but would have been nice if she'd gotten here a bit earlier than halfway through the last season lol.

[@Kidapollo92]

Kuvira's map of conquered Earth Kingdom states shows the southernmost land of the United Republic under her control as an Earth Kingdom state. When Kuvira is threatening Suyin to take Zaofu by force, the line on her belt vanishes. When Kuvira's group enters Suyin's office, Wei and Wing are wearing identical belt buckles, while later in the scene, Wei is wearing his normal round belt buckle.

[@mohammedalmail1276]

Peaceful request comes first in an Avatar political response before a last resort attack. Roku did it with Sozin before he went Avatar state on the throne room. Aang did it with Ozai before they started their battle in the finale. But yeah, go off on Korra. It's a nod to the fact that Korra's matured at this point not to resort to violence, Book 4 is her emotional maturity arc. Let's praise Zuko for this, but let's shit on Korra because...reasons? Kuvira is a reflection of Korra's former self. She's a political figure now, she can't be the dictator through power Kuvira is.

[@Kidapollo92]

Kuvira's desire to share Zaofu's advancements with the Earth Kingdom mirrors Fire Lord Sozin's desire to share the Fire Nation's wealth with the world in "The Avatar and the Fire Lord", though Kuvira's actions were initially backed up by the world leaders. This is the first episode in which Bolin did appear, but Mako did not. A scene of Kuvira using metalbending to perform target practice was cut from the final storyboard.

[@hyuugaclanmember]

Aang would do the same thing. He would try to talk to each side and but then fight the army off

[@Warriorten10]

The thing with Korra trying to talk down Kuvira is, Korra has no leverage. The best that she's got is her title as the Avatar and either 1) Kuvira's a good person and steps down now that the Avatar's back and can pick up where they left off or 2) Kuvira doesn't want to fight the "almighty" Avatar. She's been out of commission for years and got out of therapy yesterday, so the last thing she wants is a fight, and the last last thing she wants is for the people to see the Avatar lose again, legitimizing Kuvira's strength. Diplomacy is the best option but the enemy is right outside and again, no leverage.

[@magnuskarpakis]

I just love Sheera, her reaction is the most balanced and mature

[@mark78129]

It is true. She is just normal

[@theencryptedpartition4633]

Asami's dad saying: You're the greatest thing I have created. Going full on Howard Stark mode

[@ZacMrMan]

This show feels so under-appreciated by them, the mental health side also just seems to evade them. They seem to question and get annoyed every time Korra goes in headstrong, now she is showing development they criticize it.

[@helium_25]

Super agree to this! Also, I'm so annoyed every time that guy on the right laughs - to the point that they're missing some details on the show. But what frustrates me the most is the way they treat Korra like garbage. Instead of understanding. they throw insults. How perfect human being.

[@demetrivilliers1692]

Ikr

[@EyeZayUhArt]

@@helium_25 not insults, just jokes. They already said multiple times they really like korra the show and its just jokes. Everyone not going to react to a show the same way. People gata realize everyones reaction is different, u may like it, u may not like it lol

[@helium_25]

Wow. I can't believe someone will notice my comment but nevertheless, thank you all for sharing your thoughts! I do understand everyone's point of view. Its good that we have these kinds of healthy conversation in a show we both love and support... ♥️ love lots here from the Philippines!

[@smocloud]

2:36 I think that his measurement of energy is also a play on joules that we use in real life as a measurement of energy at work.

[@asimb0mb]

They wrote Korra as a flawed character on purpose. You're supposed to feel frustrated with her. You would be frustrated with having to deal with Kuvira too if you were in Korra's shoes.

[@LearnToRefine]

Is it surprising to anyone else how willing Suyin Beifong is to murder a fool? I will grant that she will only do it when her family is in serious danger. When Combustion girl threatened to kill Lin, Suyin ended her. She smacked one of the guards threatening Opal with a slab of rock that was large enough to kill him. Now her plan is to sneak into Kuvira's camp and end her. The message: If you threaten Suyin's family, you better watch your back.. sleep with one eye open.

[@ssjnamitoxo5609]

I actually get where y’all was coming from in this situation, but at the same time, what did any of us expect her to do 😭 just run up and start bopping? I honestly think it showed character development on her part 🤷🏾‍♂️ Still appreciate the reaction tho!

[@adlersanon9383]

For once I arrive within an hour of uploading, love rewatching the series with you guys.

[@mommayomomma1]

“DONT END” *ends*

[@idrizzyt7524]

yall have the absolute best intro ever i swear.. every time i hear it, i'm vibing.

[@imperviouus]

“I can’t clean this place up by myself”

[@unfocus1507]

Sometimes violence is the first option in certain situations and this was one of these times

[@chilibreath]

Sheera about to reach into the show and knock some sense into Bolin lol.

[@Kidapollo92]

Always Second Best: Baatar Jr. doesn't want to return to Zaofu because it would mean being in his father's shadow once again. The Atoner: Hiroshi Sato says he would like make up for what he did but doesn't expect Asami to ever forgive him. Audience Surrogate: Korra insists she's going to try to talk Kuvira down, rather than just fight her right off the bat. Meelo reacts just like the audience; not believing that we went through four episodes of building up her return without her "beating someone up" at the end. Borrowed Catchphrase: Zhu Li does this to Varrick after her Face-Heel Turn. Zhu Li: Guards, do the thing! Varrick: No, not the thing! Both Sides Have a Point: Bolin and Varrick argue over where to go after escaping Kuvira's army. Bolin wants to stay and help Zaofu, while Varrick considers it as good as lost and instead wants to warn Republic City about the spirit vine weapons. The inability to come to a decision about who's right slows them down, allowing Baatar Jr. to find them.

[@omarjimenez8895]

So I know that they laughed hard at Korra's Please Leave Initiative but I hope they realize how much Korra's changed after four seasons Season 1 Korra would NEVER go for that plan first and instead would have jumped in right then and there to throw hands

[@swagman2001]

Bro she legit just told kevira to leave where is the planning 😂😂😂😂

[@helium_25]

But sadly, they don't realize this. These were some examples of people who treat like Aang as a hero who can't go wrong. And Korra, who can do no right.

[@omarjimenez8895]

@@swagman2001 well here negotiating skills suck obviously but she went in aiming for peaceful conflict resolution, that's a plan at least

[@jasonandrews1770]

Thats not development. She just went in headfirst without a plan again. Only this time she went with words over fists. Thats not growth thats change.

[@omarjimenez8895]

@@jasonandrews1770 "Korra's CHANGED after four seasons" sHE diNt groW ShE cHAnGed!

[@annabelleehelpme]

Remember, Aang had a lot more life experience at twelve than Korra had at seventeen. He traveled the whole world and was raised with a focus on intellect and spirituality. His social skills far surpass Korra’s and his understanding of people and community is ingrained in his culture. Korra’s only friend was literally a polar bear dog for years lol. She was kept in a compound her whole life. It’s a huge part of her character arc to gain understanding of people, communicate, and accept support from others. She’s trying to embrace diplomacy and peace. I just feel bad for Korra, the White Lotus really set her up to fail. Being isolated made her so naive and easy to manipulate... But keep reacting how you feel, it’s nice to see you enjoy the show. Even if Korra annoys you, at least you’re invested.

[@moneylover318]

And even though the episode is hated that's what I find it this like an episode of the show to be so important she learns people skills firsthand by interacting with people her own age

[@Mercury1213]

One of my major issues with Korra, the show, is that every season felt like a reset, here's a new villain also go make the same dumb mistakes for the first 6 episodes and then comeback and barley scrape by with a win.... it is extremely frustrating especially when you watch it back to back in a short time frame, not to mention korra is constantly out shone, as a character, by the supporting cast of characters kind of making her feel dejected from the world they tried to build.

[@JerseyBoy489]

Well its because they thought the show was was ending after season 1 and 2. Thats why 3 is more darker

[@williamzhang153]

@@JerseyBoy489 so... they get a surprise new season and decide it's a good idea to make Korra forget everything she learned from her previous encounters? right..

[@JerseyBoy489]

@@williamzhang153 ughh yea it the first 2 seasons Nickelodeon wanted to the show to go certain direction. Look it up

[@KegaB3]

Sheera 😂😂 “LOOK AT THAT DUMB LOOK ON HIS FACE” legit so pissed at bolin, I was too because he’s my favorite character and they made him dumb as a bag of rocks in the whole first half of this season

[@khayta3110]

I always have trouble describing Korra, but in the wise words of Lupa, Korra is...✨SPECIAL✨

[@deathoftheendless8565]

Uh shore

[@jjmmm515]

Korra: stop this go back Kuvira: tell that to them Korra: word

[@gorosakka5452]

All the Korras developers in the comments should wait and see how there reactions/opinions develop as the story develops and comes to a close. Perhaps their views on Korra will develop to a point that all you developers will be satisfied with their views on her development as a fully developed Avatar 👍👍👍🖖🖖

[@runelucapreisler9690]

It's less about Korra bieng good at diplomacy out of nowhere - it's supposed to show her inner growth: talking instead of just fighting (which she did the first 3 seasons)

[@jaycienlovelace3123]

This is what I've been waiting for, but dam does kuvira give Korra the work😂

[@Uh_0h_zilla]

This not the episode

[@Uh_0h_zilla]

Least I don’t think 🤷🏽‍♂️😹

[@jaycienlovelace3123]

@@Uh_0h_zilla really, well then I mean sooner or later it would happened

[@SupportGamin2024]

Kuvira should've been the avatar😂

[@JSweatshirt__6]

Her fighting style is sick in that episode.

[@SubzeroBlack68]

Varrick even mentioned last season how Zhu Li carried his ass 20 miles on her back through forests and mountains.

[@ramiromunoz1161]

Omg you guys are going to suffer watching next episode, I hope you take it lightly and don't trash on Korra that much.

[@voxorox]

The Legend of How Many Ways Korra Can Get Folded

[@mark78129]

Is this a funny comment....

[@voninja8684]

@@mark78129 yes

[@pwojo9776]

Bataar and Kuvi.... Actually no, Kuvira and Bataar are a good example of girlboss and malewife; not the earliest example, not the perfect example, just a good example (the perfect example of girlboss and malewife goes to Tatsu and Miku from Way of the Househusband, which has a live-action short drama out and I think airing and has a Netflix anime with the same actors coming soon). She picks up the checks when they're out on dates. She pegs him, she definitely pegs him. He wears an apron while he's at their house, doing all the cleaning and cooking, loves to do it, while she's at work at this big proverbial office job.

[@controlman7490]

Bruh...😂

[@SupportGamin2024]

So baatar is basically a simp

[@Kaempfdog]

Ju Li: I’ve done everything you’ve ever asked but you never appreciated it! Me: The guy named a boat after you, reserved you for a super forgiving prison cell with him, named a freaking unit of measurement after you, but yeah he made you clean up the mess of the magnet suit, and has you clean his feet. Just because your his subordinate honestly this is like the highest praise to get from your boss. Even though I know her actual goal is to not be a subordinate and actually get to a point to be considered his equal.

[@571danu]

When Korra acts aggressive and rude: "Korra is trash" When Korra tries to be diplomatic and patient: "Korra is trash" smh

[@TTV_FlashStep]

She is trash 😂

[@cmmiestcat]

KORRA IS TRASH - PERIODT.

[@williamzhang153]

It's not about doing one thing or the other, it's about doing the correct thing at the RIGHT time.

[@nightwishisthegreatestband6355]

@@cmmiestcat and yet you still watch.FOH!

[@cmmiestcat]

@@nightwishisthegreatestband6355 I watch for Roshi and the gang not for Korra trash lmao. Get fuck

[@Kiki12321]

Korra: pls leave Avatar kyoshi: i will put your dumb face under the earth

[@alexanderinoa7850]

Lmao fucking Korra just asking Kuvira to chill out and then a flat *no* was hilarious. What kind of negotiation was that?

[@tumaigeorge9920]

It’s called character development

[@anagardezi5129]

Wasn't that aangs first move lol

[@tumaigeorge9920]

We’re so use to seeing Korra rushing in head first and dealing with the consequences later but because of her constantly being targeted and almost dying that she reflected on herself and wanted to for once try and be a proper avatar and trying her best at keeping it under control after being away other peoples problems and figuring out her own. Don’t forget that her talk with toph helped her understand the viewpoint of the villains and wanted to finally step back and look at the bigger picture, she’s maturing and she’s literally still depressed and she hasn’t trained for the past years and suddenly coming back and straight away have to deal with peoples 💩 is stressful but she is trying

[@tumaigeorge9920]

That scene was more of to show that she’s changing and it’s more for character development

[@tumaigeorge9920]

@@anagardezi5129 what do you mean?

[@seyidana7209]

No one: Lupa: She's......................special

[@Nostalgiclogic363]

Y’all have been hating on Korra non stop and comparing her to aang. It like korra was sheltered all her life and not trained in politics or decision making. Also aang had the other avatars constantly helping him. Korra saw aang like once and that was to get her bending back. She is doing everything pretty much blind. Also her crew grew up with normal issues so they aren’t as mature or masterful as aangs team avatar who had no childhood cause they literally grew up in a war. I get korra has issues but in my opinion she is doing her best for what’s been given to her. I know I’m way different now than I was at 17

[@rody_236]

That's why I hate they cut off her connections to the past avatars... That's the most dumb decision...

[@ericwindsor339]

Korra is a stupid character who is stupidly written and you are even more stupid for liking her

[@anagardezi5129]

@@ericwindsor339 ok kyle

[@anagardezi5129]

@@ericwindsor339 i bet you like toph and zuko too for the same reason you hate korra

[@Mega174]

Well maybe if she wasn't trash and got the other avatars deleted she would have someone to talk to about her problems to lol

[@kyleskendle6452]

Yall mad she tried to negotiate with a world leader why would she destroy a world leader especially one that did more for the earth kingdom then all the previous avatars. Kuvira modernized the ek and made it so advanced and put it back together. Something the previous avatars couldn't do cause the EK was corrupt since Yangchen era.

[@schisuchtig2513]

10:12 "You have the power to end this!" Aang to Ozai

[@vision-dz6cm]

Then Ozai refused to stop so Aang trashed him.

[@SubzeroBlack68]

In Texas I havent had power for a week!! so many videos to catch up to, starting with YaBoyRoshi

[@uradoptedkid9529]

julie and verick relationship is one of the funniest things that happened this season

[@SupportGamin2024]

Agreed

[@aspensastrology7964]

I love them.

[@secretlyadragon4723]

I know a year has passed but I'll wait for episode 8 to see if you all are going to keep giving EVERYbody else grace BUT Korra who has had to deal with so much horrifying shit and still WANTS and tries to be the Avatar. I don't care that Aang was a kid and Korra is an adult. Ain't NOBODY grown and know exactly what they doing and have all the answers at 20! Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you can deal with issues any better either. And Aang didn't have half the stuff happen to him that Korra did in the beginning of his 'Avatar-ing'. Despite the fact that she failed, a lot of the things she fearlessly stood up to, Aang would have ran from. And that's not me trying to down him, that's just his personality. Unlike Korra, Aang never wanted to be the Avatar and always looked for a peaceful, non-Avatar solution first. But it's fine, like I said, if the tune still the same when we get to episode 8 then I guess I'll be watching someone else react to this.

[@Matuse]

Nobody expects the spanish inquisition...or the Great Uniter.

[@mybabyshon]

It’s like playing poker with your cards facing the wrong way