Yamaha MT07 vs Triumph Trident | Which would I rather have?

[@ashwinskrishna5977]

I just love the looks of that triumph over the mt07, and i love that smooth buildup nature of the triumph over the mt07's aggressive nature, so you got a triumph buyer right here

[@hiteshgujarathi4636]

Lol Yamaha yet to launch MT07 in India. If you are living in India kid you are talking nonsense tbh.

[@Need4SteveMoto]

I’ve had the mt07 for 5 years and put over 50k on it and loved every minute. If I go back to the middle weight it’s going to be with the triumph. But for now I’m happy logging miles on my Grom. Currently at 10k in over a year

[@elyklenzak7695]

Damn bro that's pretty legit. Much respect.

[@Need4SteveMoto]

@@elyklenzak7695 thanks mate! It’s always a shame when people buy motorcycles only for them to sit and collect dust

[@guillee3709]

Just curious what's maintenance like once u get past 10k what you gotta do?

[@AppleGonCrumble]

As a Trident owner who has put thousands of miles on it, your last point was your best. If you are a newer/returning rider, get the Trident. As for a major disagreement while the platform may be completely new. The components are very much not. This 660 engine has been on the market for years, it is a shorter stroke 675. I would also say if you plan on doing anything more aggressive than stoplight to stoplight pick the Trident. Just a better platform to do so with a bit more premium components. Either bike will brighten your day!

[@AppleGonCrumble]

@yolo i would consider twisty roads at a "spirited" pace sporty. A super common complaint of the mt-07 is that the front suspension isn't very firm or confidence inspiring in a corner (people will often compare it to a pogo stick). The tires that come stock on the Trident are also a great compound on the sidewalls that provide great grip (Michelin Road pilot 5s) and I know that the previous year model mt07 came with a pretty cheap set of tires that you wanted to wear out as quick as possible and replace immediately but maybe that is an issue they fixed. The slipper clutch is a massive lifesaver if you are riding aggressively and accidentally dont rev match perfectly because it will not cause the back wheel to skip and bounce, the Trident has this and it is almost a deal breaker for me in the future if my next bike has one or not.

[@aura_daddy]

thanks for your input

[@AppleGonCrumble]

@yolo no no, maybe I didnt make my point well enough. I think the Trident does the twisties better. I think why people say the Trident is "for beginners" is more the way it delivers its power and the way you can make it more manageable with things like rain mode. I also think it is for more advanced riders who enjoy dragging knees because the suspension is more set up for it than the mt07. Did that make it more clear?

[@AppleGonCrumble]

@yolo I enjoy the more polished ride experience personally, which is why I bought the Trident over the mt07.

[@hectorestrada7732]

I come from an 07 R1 and enjoyed all of the 50k kms I rode in that. But over almost 10 years of riding I learned to value simplicity of riding so after testing both of them I fell completely in love with the bicicle nature of the Trident. I have had it for a month now and love every minute on the bike.

[@dizmoto2550]

The Triumph has it for me. It’s refined and fun. MT07 is great too! But my money is on the Trident.

[@lowlevelcritter7577]

Have a trident and love it. Styling. Performance. But that’s just me. Totally appreciate the MT 07. Ridden it a few times. Dope bike. For me the Trident is best. For others, the MT 07. Moreover, on trident I Like the modes, slip/assist, and quick shifter. You can’t go wrong with either though. You’ll love either one

[@doublemeat8799]

My mt07 is my first bike and I’ve had no trouble controlling it. I’m a little older and more mature so that’s probably why. I push it but in a calculated risk kind of way. Got 40k so far on it.

[@Stevieboy-102]

I've had my 21 MT07 for a month now and have loved every minute with it. Cheap and fun.

[@rockspydre]

OC: I think you nailed it. I have been riding 2 wheels all my life, it seems. I started on an old “mini-bike,” the kind I think you probably can’t even get anymore. Briggs & Stratton engine, all steel, and no safety. Culminated in a Suzuki GSX-750F in 1990. I kept that bike until July 2020. Now I ride an SV650. On paper, the old Katana was a better bike. Engine, suspension, everything. But I’m MUCH happier with the SV650, because it can dart around better with its torque down low. The Katana, even with the larger engine, being 4-cylinder, had to get well up in the rev range to really cook. It would really cook, but it just wasn’t as much fun. I don’t have nearly the experience that you and all the ‘tubers have with multiple bikes. But I’m happiest with quick, usable torque.

[@Jay_Speed]

I did test drive both and decided on the Trident, so I signed yesterday for a black one. This after 47 years of driving only Yamaha from which I have seven FZR 1000 Exup and one FZ1 Fazer. Also one Mash Falcone 125cc, bought for my godchild Carolynne who wants to drive motorbikes and me for a different way of driving.

[@TestingTesting1]

As an older rider, I was tempted by the more sensible, refined Trident. But, figuring I get a smooth experience from my car, I went for the MT. And it’s so raw and rewarding every trip. Instant, constant fun every time you fire her up!

[@dermotmcloughlin9609]

Same as👍

[@sm51259]

Same situation as me!

[@MrLars442]

I just bought a MT-07 after a 4 year break from riding. The last bike I owned was a CBR 125. For me, MT-07 is freaking amazing! So much fun to accelerate out of turn and flicking her over! OC!

[@corptruenorth]

I used to be an fz09 user than switched it for an xsr700 and loved it. Smooth engine, retro looks just love to look at it, can't leave it in a garage can't get my eyes off of it so freaking beautiful

[@derricksmith4660]

Just got my MT07. Thank you for all your content on this bike

[@MatthewW713]

How do you like it? I really wish I would have listened to several people who told me to go bigger, but I went the safe route and bought an MT-03 for my first street bike. While it is fun, it has NO power. Already plotting the switch to a middleweight

[@yahtzeejimbob]

I was surprised when you did your comparison based on the looks of the bikes, you didn't even mention the tailpiece on the triumph which when you reviewed the triumph by itself, you raved about that look!

[@charlesm.8807]

This video should be titled. Why I will always chose the Yamaha over the (enter name of manufacturer here).

[@steveluth3139]

In this case the price difference is more then enough to warrant going for the Yamaha over the Triumph any day

[@TakoNekko]

@@steveluth3139 $500? I would argue that.

[@charlesm.8807]

@@steveluth3139 yeah

[@charlesm.8807]

@@steveluth3139 yeah…. I don’t know of you really know what the price difference is…

[@MagicCarpetRide8669]

Because Yamaha gives him long term loaners

[@Dan_B_Rides]

OC I do love the mt07, the only thing I don’t like is that the key is all the way at the front and that makes me paranoid that someone crossing the street may try and steel your key! Silly I know but could happen. I agree with you though, the trident is a perfect beginner “big” motorcycle and the mt07 is a more for seasoned riders as it has more of a connection between rider and machine. Good video as always chase. Thanks for editing it beau 👍🏻

[@gregslife9584]

The Triumph is better in every way but you still like the 07 better... You know, I actually understand that. I put 11k miles on a 07. The engine sound and grunt combined with light weight and steep fork angle is enough to make most people overlook all of its shortcomings. The 07 made parking decks fun. The Trident looks a lot like the old Suzuki Gladius. No one mentions that. I’m waiting for an R version of the Speed Twin.

[@romariano71]

Undecided till last week mt07 or 660, but ended up today on trident 660..

[@Martin-fj7tn]

I went with MT-07 2021 myself, however for any speculants in the future trying to make a decision, here's some things that really bother me: 1. No slipper clutch, as explained in the video - it can get scary if you're pushing the bike and make aggressive downshifts, I come from a racing background and roll up to corners in high speed before downshifting and I've lost traction multiple times to the point I'm not comfortable pushing it to the limit anymore. I've considered either putting a slipper clutch on it for safety or changing bike for this alone. 2. The quality.. while in a general sense it doesnt feel like a low quality bike, there's a few things that bother me. One is that there's a ton of plastics, the blinkers easily pop out when I put the cover on my bike but it's also saved them however when I slipped during a stoplight while it was raining and almost dropped the bike, it popped in rather than broke. The fuel tank is also of plastic and the center piece kind of easily gets scratched. The other thing is the gas wire (throttle body?), it's ENTIRELY exposed on the engine and doesn't even have a cover.. just feels wrong? And that's pretty much it.. I still love it but I often glance at CB650R for reasons above or swapping to supersport but I know myself and I may get too tempted to ride in traffic like I would on the track - the MT07 keeps me in check while still giving me a smile while riding to work.

[@ryanlinfoot]

Yo Chase! Just test rode both of these bikes and I totally agree with you, the Trident is a “better” motorcycle but I’d go with the MT 07 every time, so much soul, fun and authenticity! Much love and thanks man XxXxX

[@MrRui33333]

I absolutely agree ,.. the trident 660 might even be better motorcycle in terms of finishes ,.. softer ,.. softer and also very beautiful ,.. but if you prefer fun , joy , good reliability and economy ,..in this aspect the mt 07 is much better in my humble opinion ,..cheaper to own and buy and it offers much more than what you're expecting from this great little bike, it's more a matter of personal taste and what you want to feel riding on each one of them,.. I opted for the mt 07 model. 2020 and I think it's one of the best in its category,.. very light and agile and very powerful makes riding very fun and safe., but for those who want something different and better equipped, the trident 660 is also a good bike!

[@The1977andi]

I ended up with the trident based on the two things I always want in a bike, looks and sound.

[@gnesmond]

Sound? The tridents 3 cylinder sound so boring. The mt07 crossplane p2 sounds so great and iconic.

[@randombanditdad3754]

Have you heard mt 07 with the akrapovic exhaust

[@Mr_N0_0ne]

I can respect the looks cause I could argue it is a nicer looking bike but there are not many bikes out there that sound better then the Mt 07 especially with a aftermarket exhaust

[@Hybrids4meok]

@@Mr_N0_0ne cb650r has entered the chat 🤣

[@Kkkk-ll3ed]

@@Mr_N0_0ne pfft…there are plenty of better sounding bike, just listen to a Daytona 675 whit a open exhaust like an Sc project…plus the best sounding award for a twin goes to Ducati

[@gabrielmeszaros1612]

I sat on both. I would rather have MT 7 because Yamaha is more comfortable for me. Foot pegs are quite high and back on Trident. Furthermore, Yamaha has a better turning circle as well.

[@L3f7S1d3]

The Triumph engine has a history already. It was adapted from the previous Daytona and shares tons from it, so not as new as one might think.

[@Marwen_Pekae]

"spec sheets don't mean shit. Motorcycling is too much of a feeling thing, for numbers to dictate how you should or should not ride a motorcycle." Word Brother! Greetings from Germany Bavaria

[@ShakeNBlake509]

yo Chase, I'm watching this at work right now and you just made my day! You put my clip in your video, thanks brotha!

[@ericmcc75]

I see you. Congrats on the props.

[@ShakeNBlake509]

@@ericmcc75 thanks brotha 🤟

[@dex400ex]

I freaked out, I was like, dude I know that bike!

[@patrick6110]

Definitely getting the Trident. Not looking for a bike to clown on the weekends.

[@davidleonard8369]

I just bought a Yamaha mt 07. I chose it over the triumph for three reasons. Looks, the Yamaha may look like something out of a star wars movie but at least it is not half modern and half retro. Electronic features, the Yamaha only has abs and does not have a bunch of electronics that I have no use for and only make it more complicated and possibly failure prone, ktm comes to mind. Country of manufacture, Thailand vs Japan. Oh yeah number four, it's a hoot to ride!

[@djtutin1]

Had a FZ 07 really enjoyed it. Went on to a MT09, have to say it as a blast, but wish I hadn't traded in the 07. The FZ/MT 07 was a total joy. So what do I have now, BMW R9T pure. Still miss that FZ/MT 07, well I'm 75 now so maybe this will be my last bike, maybe.

[@averagefz0749]

I’ve ridden both and own the fz07 and I think the triumph is a better bike overall. But something about the fz07 makes me keep coming back to it. The sound and the “ aggressiveness” of the fz07 is what I can’t get away from. The triumph is so smooth and while it’s a nice bike to ride, the fz07 is a blast to just jump on and rip around the city.

[@MartinDoubek_ArnieX]

I have ridden both and definitely Triumph. Well MT-07 is great, it's punchy, it's jumpy, love to wheelie (which I can't yet, I would have been doing it when I was 18, but I didn't ride for 12year so I can't do it now) and it is really fun bike. But it's the only bike from Yamaha that remains on standard forks, not USD here and it's just wrong. The suspension is really good on Trident compared to MT-07. Then I hate that dash is on handlebars because it is too close to the body and it's hard to look forward and see it. Trident has awesome dash, even better with the BT module. Overal build quality and accessory options speaks for Trident, even-thought it can quickly become almost 2000USD (here in Czech Republic) more expensive than MT-07, but then you have quick shifter, frame protector, fly screen, bluetooth module, USB charger, tank pad .... well but it will probably never be such hooligan bike like MT-07 :). I would have hard time deciding if MT-07 would be maybe a same price like Trident but had at least better suspension and quick-shifter and maybe some basic TCS. Will be picking my new Trident hopefully next week :)

[@All_True_Especially_The_Lies]

Trident is smoother, more refined, looks far better, handles better, has better suspension, and has better tech. The MT 07 looks like a cheap toy and is constructed like one.

[@p.chakraborty4453]

OC: My brain says : MT07: hooligan. Trident 660 : stylish , refined veteran, sports naked. Tracer 700 GT: honest sports tourer . Tenere 700: light adv . R7 : street capable supersport XSR 700: Hidden hooligan + very stylish. Overall i will choose any one of the Trident 660, or the XSR 700 ! The best of any of these! I will take a XSR 700 now, maybe later the Trident 660 after I'm a little more aged , i was a veteran R1 racer , now only doing good street riding , quit racing already . Not a squid or speed monster anymore, only looking for fun ! That was my opinion chase.

[@jayreimer6851]

XSR 700 = all the good things you hear about the MT-07, plus it looks way better. I just got one a few weeks ago, and I love it. It already had a full Termignoni exhaust on it with no baffles, so it sounds every bit the hooligan as well!

[@aerojh4436]

The XSR 700 is the real deal! Have one as well and love it! Cheers

[@p.chakraborty4453]

@@jayreimer6851 yeah , i will also go for it, dunno why yamaha india is so dumb, there are basically only 4 bikes in this market: Honda CBR650R/CB650R, royal enfield GT/INT 650 , Kawasaki ninja/Z 650, and the newest Triumph Trident 660 , only 4 neo retro middleweight here. But yamaha india is more budy making copy( fake and design copied) of xsr 155😂.

[@p.chakraborty4453]

@@aerojh4436 i have ridden it before, but not the xsr (ridden more the mt and tracer and tenere) , and if i get to test the Trident i will be sure which one to pick. Usually xsr/mt is more fun than the Trident due to the laggy throttle response, but I've also heard that the bike really opens up after 1k miles ? Like the restrictions are removed and the throttle response is like mt , maybe , haven't tested , once i do , I'll do the review of it in my blog.

[@trevorroeder117]

I have the trident, it’s my first bike; I put a Zard exhaust on it which lets the triple scream and I put a dnktune on it which unleashed the throttle and it’s a much better bike than stock.

[@Smallbore2wheels]

OC: high five! Honestly i like the look of both so as you said, without butting my butt on the seat there's no way if actually knowing which one fits best

[@jimmyjoe1871]

I too have been faced partially with this decision. My wife wanted a middleweight bike so she could ride with me when I’m on my Ducati. After a long period spent looking at a potential ride for her, she made her decision. Both fit her perfectly. Both were in her budget, she rode both. When she rode the Trident she commented on how easy to ride and comfortable it was. She said she felt more in control on the triumph. She likes tech s as well. She’s also 60 years old. She bought the trident. We also got lucky and found a demo that saved us 3k. She’s happy

[@jimminyxmas]

Yamaha needs to sort out that front fork situation on the mt 07

[@craighoward4531]

Heavier fork oil and preload adjusters with a shorter spacer are cheap and effective improvements

[@danlford]

@yolo name one bike that most folks dont instantly start working on. 650ib got the $30,000 cbr rrrrrr. And instantly began doing mods to it. Every body at least puts a slip on on every bike.

[@rogerp4612]

Ya think? But clearly they don't have to, because their simps will drool over their bikes with forks crafted from overcooked pasta.

[@danlford]

@yolo the cheap spacer heavier fork oil fork fix would be considerably cheaper than a good set of bar end mirrors and miles cheaper than the cheapest slip on.

[@danlford]

@yolo true. They upgraded the suspension on the 09 this year maybe they'll get around to it on the 07 next

[@jessejunkkarinen2247]

I am deciding between these two models. The trident's looks and the specs are leaning me towards it, but the mt-07's "funnes" keeps me second guessing... I am looking for a bike to use mainly as a commuter bike and now and then take it for a bit longer rides.

[@fattahilkabir155]

Dude get the trident if you are riding it everyday. It's really comfortable, the suspension is a bit better compared to the 07 and pulls at any gear. Red lines at 10000rpm. Also has that classic look

[@drdidge69]

I’ve had my MT07 for a month now and absolutely loving it - and I’m still in the “breaking in phase”. Time I get home from work today, I would have clocked just over 400 miles, so almost ready for first service. With a bit of luck my tail tidy arrives tomorrow too. Just need the rain to sod off now 😄

[@MatthewW713]

Love the Dead Kennedys! Was the MT-07 your first bike?

[@p4pacrust]

OC: I really like this take as a whole. Picked up my 19' MT07 a couple months ago now and during that process I was having to make the decision between it and potentially a trident. I think you summed up a lot of the points that I also was feeling which inevitably made me go the Yamaha route. It is my first big bike after graduating from a Grom (miss tf out of that thing. Will own another ASAP) During my decision process the fact that the FZ/MT platform proven solid was a big thing that put me on in the first place. Like you mentioned with Yamaha putting the CP2 in a number of their other bikes. It is proven quality on a number of levels from fun and power to reliability and aftermarket support. I have also simply been aware of the platform for longer, having watched all the motovlog guys talk about it essentially since the platforms debut in the 2015/16 days. Its also hugely that feeling thing you talked about. The bike looks amazing to me and sounds even better. I definitely think the Trident would be a worthy option, but very similarly to the overall idea I feel this video was touching on is the MT is simply its own beast and to me the Trident seemed like a "safer" bike in a sort of boring way. Sort of like the version of the MT that my dad would buy. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but the MT is just a more exciting bike, just as you said. I am excited to get on this bike every time I take it out. Even if it is just the couple miles to work.

[@nicholasauer1206]

OC - i have a 2015 FZ07 (bought it new) and its exactly like you said just a raw fun motorcycle. no matter when you hop on its got that grunt and spunk thats just fun. If you're going for a Triumph naked though my buddy has a street triple, now that's an amazing motorcycle. higher price tag but with all the upgrades it's totally worth it

[@mindspinn311]

Having owned a FZ-07 and a handful of Triumph triples I can understand why the Trident could be considered “boring” by comparison. I just wish that Japanese brands could get their fueling as perfect as Triumph does. I’m very likely going to buy the 2021 MT-07 (and definitely in that Yamaha blue) over the Trident because it is more fun and I prefer that torquey twin engine character. I currently own an SV650 and I still prefer the CP2 engine from Yamaha. OC!

[@Steve-motorcycles]

I agree, if riding is supposed to be fun and exciting, the MT07 kicks the Trident into touch

[@j.moto3435]

OC: MT-07 with an ECU flash all the way!!! It's lighter and it feels like a supermoto with way more power. I love the feeling of a lightweight hooligan bike.

[@enzo6sixty]

Triumph Trident 660 FTW!!!

[@gothops154]

Interesting to see multiple youtubers compare the Trident with the MT07. Think the more appropriate comparison would be the Trident vs XSR700

[@Mr_N0_0ne]

Lol I agree

[@John_Ridley]

I agree with you across the board. The MT-07 looks I really like. The Trident doesn't do anything for me. And the proven reliability is a huge plus.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

The Trident is proven reliable to, it’s just a destroked 675, which are know reliable, especially under heavy abuse. People track Daytonas and stack insane miles of hard riding on them. The MT07 looks to immature, the XSR700 looks way better. My biggest complaint of the CP2 Yamaha is the chassis is just not great. If they beef the chassis up and make say an SP model with inverted adjustable forks and a good rear shock I’d strongly consider an MT/XSR. The new MT09 has a pretty good chassis and suspension setup especially with the SP, Yamaha should give the MT the same treatment

[@atlklx5168]

Triumph has been in the 600ish triple game for a long time (longer than the CP2 has been around?). So the reliability concern doesn’t really make sense to me. The MT07 looks like a typical naked bike (angular) by all other manufacturers which is what you want when you’re buying your first motorcycle. Not bad, just not special at all. Triumph for me. But if I was given a MT07 for free I wouldn’t return it.

[@shannonmiles3553]

Great explanation. On the review of Trident 660 and MT-07. Just pick the motorcycle that makes up happy and enjoy it !!! Get into the wind and just Ride !!!

[@Frank_Torre]

OC: If I were getting a naked bike and these two are my options. It's the Triumph Trident hands down. It may cost a little more but I've loved the sound and power delivery of a triple for so long. Since I'm in the market and a new Moto2 Daytona is too much cost the Trident maybe an option even if I prefer sportbikes.

[@1985GusT]

If you prefer sport bikes you’re gonna be disappointed in the Trident. Very, very bland but that may just be me at least. Also doesn’t have the cool whiney “triple sound” due to it not having straight cut gears. You’d be better off on a Street Triple for a bit more. Just my opinion.

[@19ZR2Colorado]

Yammienoob also made a video comparing these two bikes almost a week ago, check that one out too.

[@ThatMagaLife]

Get the triple then. Mt09 or xsr900

[@Frank_Torre]

@@ThatMagaLife Might go with the street triple and give the naked bike a try.

[@ThatMagaLife]

@@Frank_Torre they're fun, I have the xsr900. Fast as hell, and comfortable. I'll always stay Japanese though. I like the reliability.

[@Chittybang1821]

A new Bolt 700 with CP2 would be cool

[@andricodewet3725]

OC I can't wait to buy my MT-07. I wanted to get one just before all the craziness started. And never got to the point of buying it... Hopefully soon. But my vote lays with the Yamaha

[@mastersoomatai2101]

MT-03 owner here, looking at my next step. I am def looking at these two. I am also almost 50 and have only been riding a year. I plan to test ride both, and a few other things before I decide, but the trident sure does look like the winner for me. We shall see.

[@CoryRoy]

Did you manage to ride them both? What did you think? I have ridden the MT-07 but not the Trident.

[@user-rf9me7xm1w]

Another MT03 rider here, I don’t think I need a next step. I love the fact that I can use all the performance without doing excessive speed. The acceleration isn’t far off that of the two bikes tested and 100 mph is certainly enough for me. I’m also getting over 100 mpg so, for me, the MT 03 is fine.

[@gamingfloppa9460]

Love the content, man. Still think I'm gonna go with the Trident though - something about it is just really alluring

[@trevorroeder117]

Did you get the trident? It’s my first bike and I love it, I put a zard exhaust on it and dnktune which unleashed the throttle and makes it a more lively, raw bike.

[@222wheelsdown]

Thank you!! I’m comparing these exact 2 bikes now… looking to trade in my ktm 390 adv. I think the Yamaha is much more appealing in terms of overall smiles per mile. Still, the trident is a solid and very nicely designed bike. Can’t go wrong either way!

[@MatthewW713]

Did you switch yet? If so which one won out?

[@222wheelsdown]

@@MatthewW713 I did! I financed a 21’ MT 07 just about 2 weeks ago. As only my 2nd motorcycle, I absolutely love it. Appreciable increase in power compared to my ktm 390 , I went with the Yamaha blue color and think it looks pretty sharp. It’s not so powerful though like a 600cc sport bike where it’s almost unusable unless you’re at the track. For me it’s the perfect choice for cruising around the city here in Phx yet can also handle longer trips too if I ever want to ride it up north. Let me know if you have any other questions, honestly I don’t think you can go wrong with this or the Trident. Both are great bikes and primarily it came down to Trident was sold out for a few months and the Yamaha was available now.

[@MatthewW713]

@@222wheelsdown Thanks for the response! I am also looking to upgrade from the MT-03 and am pretty sure I will end up with the MT-07. I am in Houston and think it will be perfect. Stay safe and enjoy your new bike!!

[@josecarlosgadeadoncel8157]

I'm trying to decide what to get, it'll be my first bike, and here in Europe we're limited tothe A2 license, with bikes of up to ~47HP, for the first two years. I've tested the MT07 and it was incredible, but also a little scary. I've done all my tests on a Z400 and a MT03, so the MT07, even when restricted to 47HP, has A LOT more punch, specially down low. I wanted to test the Triumph but my dealership doesnt have a restricted one to test. Tomorrow i'll test the CB650R, which is the best looking naked middleweight, IMO. But I think i'll go MT07. I kinda like that it scared me, haha.

[@jeffpullen3385]

OC: I would be more interested in the MT07 if Yamaha would put a better fork set on it. I have entertained both as my next bike, and honestly, the Trident has a lot of things I like, but for enjoyment I think the MT would be more fun.. just the forks...😬

[@KrazyKanucker]

I'm hoping the 2022 MT has the sp option with better forks like the mt09 or if a tracer 700 will be coming to Canada. If no I'll probably get a used mt07.

[@davidleonard8369]

Just go to yt channel, Dave Moss tuning. His suggestions really improve the forks. And only at the cost of a bottle of fork oil.

[@xenogears5177]

OC: The raw feeling of the MT07 is what i like about it the most.. Bikes with rider aids and whatnot make me feel disconnected from the motorcycle.

[@davidleonard8369]

Electronics left off will never fail.

[@AhmedIbrahim-hs7kk]

I would probably pick the trident, with the looks of the trident being the deciding factor.

[@Royalfm]

In the end its the perspective of own experience and use case. I did chose the Trident as a beginner in the mid 40s exactly for what you described, incl. Ride by Wire and all this stuff. If i would be maybe 10 / 15 years younger i would have probably made a other choice.

[@PatPerdue]

OC! And love the MT07. With the right exhaust it sounds like a beast.

[@1018connor]

I’ve have a 2016 street triple 675 for a year now and love it. But I’m starting to lean towards a Mt10 now for the sole reason that I live in a area where the closest triumph dealer and mechanic is 200 miles away…. Love my triumph though!

[@Bronson9822]

I went for a ride on both demo bikes (trident and mt07) and have to say the mt07 won me over.

[@patrick6110]

The Trident is head and shoulders above the Yamaha. The engine is not what you said. It's the old Daytona's engine. Very well known and tested. This is why Triumph gave it a 10,000 miles between services. These two bikes are almost the same price but not at all in the same class. The smooth ride of the Triumph, its overpowered engine, the quality of the parts, its full range of equipment place it significantly above the MT07. Of course, you're right, the MT07 is a play bike. It's more fun. It's not for serious riders. It's for weekend riders. But if you're looking for a great commute bike, it's not the right bike. Now, I'm not sure why you're pushing the MT07 so hard. It sounds like you got something from Yamaha.

[@bigg16]

Agree 100% its all about the ride not the stats.

[@PwnstarUK]

Good Video! Its a very tough decision!, the Trident is cooler no doubt about that, but all my bikes have the transformer styling, I don't like round headlight bikes as a rule. I so want a triple too they sound so much better! arghh I still don't know. You make some good points about the MT but I don't accept the after market stuff there is a TON of Trident stuff already. But I do ride like a hooligan ( like you) so the MT suits that. ERMM I want the trident with the MT lights, someone make that happen!

[@aceh941]

OC , theses bikes are both amazing....however the MT07 definitely has more feels to it.

[@The.JZA.]

Man that dash looks so much cooler and sleeker than the new "iPad mini" that they slapped on there. Dunno why everyone is obsessed with TFT displays. The older LCD's look better IMO and they do everything you need.

[@jeremycubs8331]

Mt07 is a simple bike with immense burst of power, the parallel twin is a versatile engine which makes it very easy and handy in any speed you're at. However if you prefer high revving engine then it's not for you.

[@bluewiz0090]

I 100% agree that MT07 is overall a better choise BUT, as not a begginer so much as unexperienced rider i can not tell how many times my CBR250r saved me from accidents becouse i was commuting more than speeding thanks to it's tamed nature. So now that i'm jumping to the 600+ category hands down the Trident 660 is going to be the perfect bike for me right now, plus it looks way better in my eyes than the MT07.

[@EtaParseids]

I bought a 2017 FZ07 as my second bike. Haven't stopped smiling yet!

[@clarkwg247]

OC Triumph triple engine is not new, under 1200cc that is. So chase, yeah there is longevity IRL on the Trident triple engine

[@3DzEXPLOSION]

Been loving the Mt03 and I'm thinking the mt07 will be my next. Not getting rid of the Mt03 because I love it too much as well lol

[@ZSmith-yy4lv]

Haha, now you’re going to have to get the whole lineup.

[@Motoboo_Marine]

First bike? A lot of people say to try to avoid selling it if you can. You'll always end up missing it :)

[@SkyelerTheDisctroyer]

If you look at the power curve of the mt03 and compare it to the trident and mt07 it would predict the mt03 is more similar to the trident than the 07 wherein the power is delivered in the higher part of the rev range. So you might want to take that into consideration.

[@johns1139]

@@SkyelerTheDisctroyer great point! I have an MT-03 and would probably gravitate to the Trident more than the Mt-07.

[@gsxraiders]

Without even riding either bike, I already know that I would enjoy the MT07 over the Trident simply because of twin vs triple. Twins are so much more fun than triples. The throttle will feel so much better.

[@jorgepinho6649]

Trident for me, on every single aspect !

[@OOOUZ]

Mt 07 fun and ultra reliable.. That's all that matters!

[@chalkdemon8019]

I would rather have the Trident, seems like a perfect starter bike if you want to start on something bigger than a 400. The MT-07 is too twitchy for newer riders.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

The MT07 suspension needs a major rework as well.

[@davidleonard8369]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 nonsense, a bottle of bell ray 20wt fork oil and shorten the pre load spacers and the forks work quite well.

[@maguslascivious4980]

I'm gonna tell ya.. the trident looks 1000 times better than the MT... I Hate the way the new Japanese bikes look. Cheap live action transformers. Alien insects just awful IMO. Glad the SV650 still looks good.

[@BritishBikerPhilippines]

OC! Has to be the Yam every-single-time, that engine is exquisite

[@cuzzie_]

just payed for my MT07 this morning can’t wait to pick it up 🤟

[@mullenli]

I never ride on the trident but I enjoy my 2022 MT07 and really looking for detail comparison with Honda CB650R. Thanks for this video !

[@damnlogin]

OC: Love both bikes, but i prefer the engine and styling on the Trident by a hair.

[@mcrip8510]

OC. I'm for sure on the team MT07. Wish Yamaha would do something different with the display though.

[@ninji522]

The Triumph looks like nothing else out there right now. The mt looks like every other naked bike, like someone wrapped aluminum foil around an engine and crinkled the hell out of it, then painted it. I'm an admitted Yamaha fanboy too after owning (and soon will own again) an 04 FZ1 that was a beast. To each their own obviously but the Triumph has a style that sets it apart from the endless crinkle bikes and that's refreshing to say the least.

[@yjohansaint-john1285]

Thanks for your video, it's very helpful. Nevertheless, MT 07 is a playful fun bike with relax throttle and engine sound. While TRIDENT is also a fun bike with hypermotard mind, responsive throttle and crazy engine sound. However, trident match my life style.

[@xaraphyn]

You make great points (that I've seen other KZbinrs agree with), I have never ridden either bike and I know it's only your opinion but, YOU'RE WRONG!! Great vid and thanks for sharing.

[@calvinbarriga195]

I bought a trident 🔱

[@cliveomahoney4096]

It's really not possible to question the reliabiliry of a detuned Triumph triple engine compared to the CP2. In fact, it should because the power is so relatively low, last much, much longer. The MT07 bits (and those of the Triumph) will wear out sooner. Ive had an MT, I adored it, until it was stolen. The chassis was totally rubbish, however, and actually made me seasick on a bike ! - And not always at high speeds. That isn't a small flaw, it's a gaping oversight by Yam. I'm sure the Triumph won't do that.

[@paintup46]

The Yamaha is an incomplete bike. You’re paying for the motor. The triumph is a well rounded machine. Looks, build quality, dash, suspension. The Yamaha is behind in all of that.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

Makes it a better bike to keep and modify to one's liking.

[@paintup46]

Yea man, if you’re into that kinda thing.

[@barefootlumberjack]

You sold me on the Trident.

[@Jeff_Klein]

3 cylinders over 2 cylinders any day. The sound is a very important part of the experience IMO

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

I would agree, but the cp2 sounds really good too. But I haven't heard enough Trident's to be able to judge that the bike sounds good. Intake noise plays a big role too.

[@MrRGM10]

Inline 3 only sounds good if you are the one riding the bike but gets old pretty fast. Cp2 sounds more raw & beastly

[@banzaiib]

Mt07 sounds waaaaayyy better with a pipe replacement. But to each their own. Haven't ridden the triple, but I'm sure it's fun too

[@guillermoyelamo5816]

OC: if all else fails: MT07 I love you too Chase. Ride safe brother.

[@MotoKringles]

OC: MT-07 for me. I got a 2018 model myself and I love it!

[@gdevelek]

Did you include a shot from riding in Athens, Greece???? That's just bizarre. I immediately recognized it because I've ridden on that highway countless times but dismissed it as unlikely, then I went back and confirmed it.

[@Frostainum]

I am in search for a first bike and as far as i have drove few of them (mt07, xsr900, z650, cb650r, Ducati Scrambleer) my opinion is: Would say that MT07 is fun bike - torque is on low end, sound is good, really easy to maneuver, but the front suspension is shit for reals. If you have an emergency braking and you hit ABS bike suspension will jump you up and if you are inexperienced driver you can start panicing because the bike will brake in much longer distance. Also the cosmetics compared to trident is not as good. Would say cool bike for city riding. It goes to both MT07 and Z650 they both are so jerky bikes... there is some fun in that, but i guess as a second bike or used one to have some fun... Have not driven the Trident but now as i have watched tons of videos and forum research on this bike, i feel like this is the one. Has the looks, like the british theme, sounds like sports car, has the linear power including low end torque. All the electronics you would love to see on bike. Would think the fornt suspension also should be much better... But anyhow i have to test it before... Also a conclusion what i have now after driven different type of bikes, it really depends on what driving characteristics you like. As i said imo Yamaha is cool city bike. But im looking for a bike that i can go smooth in city and b-roads/higway. Was considering a CB650r, great bike, good design, looks and feels more premium than MT07, have better parts, but lacks low end torque and feels like its right place not in the city considering the weight and maneuverability . And now im looking very strongly in Tridens direction - i think it sits right in the middle of MT07 and CB650R not even mentioning electronics.. Would love to see if in 2024 MT07 had upgraded front suspension, then it would be different story :)

[@christianoberlies]

Getting the 2019 MT07 for my first bike and im excited af for it

[@chirag4]

i have the TRIDENT since April. MT-07 not available in my country but even if it was, i would've gotten Triumph-Triple (inline-3). over Cross-Plane Twin (CP2) / Straight-twin Cranks (parallel-twin / vertical twin).

[@chirag4]

i would go with a V2 (V-twin, Superduke) or L2 (L-twin, Ducati Monster, Panigale 955) over Straight/Parallel/Vertical/Inline/Flat TWINs. If 900-950cc bikes are concerned, i would consider Monster (937cc L-twin) over MT09 (triple, CP3) or 890 Duke (inline-2) & F900R (inline-2) & Z900 (inline-4)

[@neti_neti_]

Correct , Yamaha not Supplying what consumer is demanding

[@dyoung4184]

Had a new 2017 MT for 4 years, changed tyres and suspension almost immediately. OE stuff was terrible. Engine braking was annoying , activated the ABS. 4 winters needed a lot of ACF50 as frame / fittings hates UK weather. The bike was light , manoeuvrable , infectious power delivery and accidental wheelies. Decided to change for a Trident in March , 3500 miles later and it’s such a wonderful machine. Light, manoeuvrable, power is subtle, sublime triple roar. Powder coat , aluminium and stainless fixtures, braided brake lines, LED. I know Yamaha have raised the game , but Triumph have come into this middle weight market and have nailed it. 60 MPG (UK) Gallons 😁 - which is a little better than I got with the MT.

[@KrazyKanucker]

Do you find the throttle response is delayed at low revs? I saw a vid from yammienewb pointing it out.

[@dyoung4184]

@@KrazyKanucker only if you set it to rain mode.