YouTube, Reddit Face Suits Claiming They Radicalized Buffalo Shooter

Multiple social media companies have been sued by victims of Buffalo shooting suspect Payton Gendron. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. | Your Support is Crucial to the Show: go.tyt.com/jointoday
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"NEW YORK (Reuters) -Several social media companies were ordered by a New York state judge to face four lawsuits seeking to hold them responsible for helping enable the avowed white supremacist who killed 10 Black people in 2022 at a Buffalo, New York grocery store.
Justice Paula Feroleto of the Erie County Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the more than 40 plaintiffs could try to prove that Meta Platforms' Facebook and Instagram, Reddit, Google's KZbin and other platforms were designed to addict and radicalize users like the shooter, Payton Gendron."
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[@-DestinationNoWhere-]

If you can sue the gun company, then you can social media

[@4idhero798]

Social media is a curse on humanity.

[@Yourplacewatchingyousleep]

Internet is inevitable. Education and home is what's failing

[@cinder-nu3pk]

porn. porn is the issue.

[@popegeorgeringo840]

​@@cinder-nu3pkMaybe for you, with your Rusty Venture 😂

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

@@cinder-nu3pk porn is not about violence. so how can porn radicalize if its not about that?

[@alexanderdeburdegala4609]

There companies have failed on keeping what they should off their sites, they need to be forced into compliance.

[@DiscordBeing]

Failed to keep off things and then severely punished random people for getting angry at those people. Then telling US we are against the community and its standards. F them.

[@davidmeadows5627]

So you want to take away social media's right to free speech and allow leftist opinions only? LOL! Good luck with that pesky First Amendment!

[@keithwilliams744]

I’m sure that serious serial killers aren’t getting their ideas from social media. The social forums either support what they are doing or they find one that does. The idea that people think social media can be used to prevent people with murderous intent to give up hate and become a Priest and donate their weapons to charity. It seems people already believe kind empathetic people can be turned into murderous zombies by video images and audio clips. People seem to forget it’s called social media meaning it’s media made by people for the consumption of other people.

[@michaellong9214]

This will end TYT. TYT has been cited in multiple shootings. TYT also spread information about a suspect who was falsely identified and was assaulted because of this false information. If this lawsuit succeeds, I think TYT will be sued for liability in several incidents. Completely outside of the left or right radicalization, spreading rumors about a COMPLETELY INNOCENT individual that leads to an assault is going to be hard to defend if this lawsuit goes forward.

[@garyrutledge7639]

Ana is always much more objective about the insidious aspects of social media than Cenk. His financial incentives in it make his arguments disingenuous.

[@DeusEx.Machina]

That’s a red-herring bud. I don’t know what his financial incentives are in this case, regardless, let’s suppose he has massive investments in SM stocks, that shouldn’t negate his opinion. Deconstruct his opinion, not his motives, and convince us 😊.

[@popegeorgeringo840]

​@DeusEx.Machina Well, his incentive is that he runs a KZbin network. Should KZbin be blamed for the murders of others, they're gonna crack down HARD on any outlet that even mentions violence as a topic. Naturally, a channel that covers right-wing shenanigans is gonna feature violence as a topic 🤷‍♂️ I don't think this makes him disingenuous, but he definitely has a personal stake in this position.

[@Tmack034]

Notice how when it's white right wing violence, there's always excuses for it. He's an adult and should take responsibility for his own actions full. Don't turn him into a victim by blaming social media.

[@verntanko]

The families of the victims of Gavin Long's shootings of 4 police officers should sue the Young Turks since he was a huge fan who made response videos to their anti-cop rants.

[@MrTweej]

One time I accidentally clicked on an interview of James Hetfield on KZbin not realizing it was Joe Rogan interviewing him & suddenly like a switch had been flipped my Recommended Videos were flooded with alt-right podcasters for months even after I clicked 'not interested' or 'dont recommend channel' on dozens of them. I think there's definitely something in the algorithm that shoves this stuff down your throat based on that experience.

[@alexanderthompson-rq7nx]

same here

[@TD1237]

Absolutely. I keep saying that I'm not interested but they keep showing me these things.

[@AlexR_44]

It's not just that content though, it happens with tons of crap. It's a shame how many subjects we miss learning about because KZbin was bought by an advertising company.

[@popegeorgeringo840]

I like to indulge in conspiracy theories every once in a while. In a thought experiment/entertainment type of way, of course. But doing so sets my algorithm to feed me right-wing nonsense. Same with reviews of games/movies that have prominent female or minority characters. And the right complains SOOOO MUCH about censorship 🤦‍♂️ The snowflakery is real!

[@franneep]

Same here

[@priyaprem2172]

Ana is right in the influence social media has in radicalising someone. Television doesn't follow you around and you're not required to engane with it to fit into society. It's not the same. Most companies are on social and they expect you to know what's going on, so most people can't exactly cut it out, unlike tv. Tv also doesn't listen to your conversations and hyper personalise your programs just for you. Additionally, there's more of an incentive for content creators to get a rise out of people so they engage more. You dont have worked up back and forth on things that make you happy and peaceful. So yes, it absolutely influences a person's world view if suddenly all they see is content that enrages people. The idea that meta algorithm gives you what you like is a naive was of thinking. It's a loophole perhaps, but it's having a very negative effect and must be addressed in a larger effort to protect people.

[@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt]

Nope 100% wrong

[@JeffisWinning]

Reddit - the toilet of the internet

[@darkspace5762]

Are you sure reddit?

[@JeffisWinning]

@@darkspace5762 Reddit is sure.

[@Myracle999]

Apparently no one is responsible for their own actions anymore

[@user-kj5td9hd3s]

To me this is no different, than a person who yells fire in a movie theatre.

[@darkdan3379]

Why are comments being deleted?

[@geared2cre8]

I made the mistake of watching a tim pool video.... my god the algorithm literally salivating to send me more crap.

[@robertroberts5283]

Fox, Tucker and the Red Hatter Party should be sued.

[@simonArmenia1]

I constantly get recomended right wing and "anti woke" content, even though I seldom click on it. It seems there is a bias i the algorithm here, not just a passive intermediator.

[@user-vj9kp8sn4y]

These kids know right from rough so blame them because they are trying get some money out of the company my opinion

[@vandal280]

Same here. I never click on right wing content but it's constantly offered to me

[@kuhnology8803]

Feeling controlled? Remember you are the commodity, the asset to be used, and abused...that feeling is real. This is why rules and regulations are needed the abyss of the rabbit hole is in front of us, alone our fall is assured. Wish us well, a less stressful way. WCDB

[@celine9322]

There is a bizarre tendency for “sjws owned” videos to show up when I search for different topics even though I haven’t watched that kind of stuff in years. I’ve just assumed it’s the kind of content that’s most popular on KZbin overall but I don’t know.

[@CMoney280]

AN ALGORITHM IS NOT HUMAN NATURE

[@glenproctor1999]

Difficult argument but underlying it is a weird US attitude. Show even a hint of female nipple on social media and it's an instant ban. Report a video of murder or torture, any kind of real violence or calls to violence and it's "nothing wrong here, does not breech our terms and conditions at all". Needs a reassessment of priorities. Social media needs to take calls for violence seriously.

[@BloodTithingsGaming]

Social media companies didn't sell him a gun or raise him.

[@DiscordBeing]

Yeah, so, sue those ppl too. They already put the father of one in prison.

[@NextNate03]

Social media companies did spread fake news. Remember, the Republican Party got their supporters to try to overthrow the government on January 6th because of all the lies and fake news.

[@blackhercules1753]

Cenk's attitude toward reflexively protecting social media sites from lawsuits is very similar to how politicians reflexively protect toxic corporations from liability.

[@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt]

Then quit KZbin yourself hypocrite

[@shamrock73]

Cause he's radicalized most of his audience. Most of the people in the comment section are lunatics.

[@dynomotivedyno9194]

It's ALWAYS the same. Rhetoric or lies and hate out in the public discourse leads to hate crime, division and violence.

[@pnkwds]

It is such an american thing to focus on social media and not the guns...

[@huizhechen3779]

It's both in this case.

[@pnkwds]

@huizhechen3779 I get what you're saying, but it's kinda mute to blame social media when the politicians had the same talking points and openly talked about it on certain traditional news outlets, usually they are the ones to guide the conversation, because they acknowledged these conspiracies they give them validity and feed more into this spiral of hate, fear and anger.

[@mycatsaliberal3848]

Can’t believe I’m agreeing with cenk over ana here

[@rickgregson6843]

Agree with Anna

[@codelabspro]

Cank is 100% right 💯

[@VolundMush]

So lemme get this straight... if people are trying to sue social media companies - which, I might add, generally have policies against being used to promote violence or criminal behavior (not always able to enforce them to the extent everyone would hope, because it's a lot of content) for the fact that someone was exposed to hateful, radicalizing content... can we also sue TV shows like Fox or politicians who spread hate and fear that puts people on edge and then they decide to act violently at the slightest provocation? This is... ugh....

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

good point... lets suit tv shows and the movie industry

[@badrhetoric5637]

"Unleashed humanity"? No private data gathering companies have allowed fascists elements to empower themselves. For profit.

[@johnmartin4641]

This case should be thrown out. Every social media site will just close down because they’ll be too afraid to let anyone post anything to avoid liability.

[@VolundMush]

Ultimately, I don't think companies like Facebook or Discord can ever be the main things to blame for people who end up committing such unthinkable acts. The fact of the matter is that broken, hateful, unbalanced people exist who spread their festering mind-worm lies as they will, and vulnerable, imbalanced minds can fall prey to it. Facebook's algorithm can serve as an amplifier for that which is definitely a problem, but Discord? Discord... you choose which communities you hang with. That's not Discord's fault. But, in the end, the two most at fault parties are those who spread the radicalizing hatred and fear, and those who fall under the sway. It's a mental health problem. Our society is not structured in a way that promotes tolerance, emotional openness, critical thinking skills, rational behavior and maturity, yet it's endlessly surprised when people lack these things and go off the deep end...

[@thesun6211]

As a counterpoint to Cenk's comparison between social media and the fearmongering of the Murdoch Network's national politics programming, the latter is designed to keep viewers watching by making them worried or vaguely afraid (especially if you take the advertising for their punditry shows in addition to the actual content) while the former is being accused (in this suit) of irresponsibly "farming engagement" through algorithms designed to feed users content to which they'll react emotionally. If it's a binary choice between getting rid of social media or leaving things as they currently are, I'm still inclined to agree with his position that the status quo is leagues better than the bad old days of having only radio, broadcast, and cable media though. IOW and TLDR, modern digital democracy >>> corporate manufactured consensus.

[@TokenCast]

1:24 I commend Anna on keeping a straight face. When Jake off screen whispered money. I f****** laugh my a** off.

[@buggy7451]

Wow that sounds almost exactly like Rittenhouse

[@danieltriplett3616]

And alcoholic s get to blame Budweiser commercials for their addiction.

[@88happiness]

serving 100 more videos after you only watch one. What if the one video is about suicide? Do you want your child getting lots more of that after they thought about it once?

[@reecedrystek2992]

Let's be honest at what point do you just mark society as the defendent. This is ridiculous and should just be thrown out.

[@susanyeadon6657]

I agree Ana

[@EverAppl14]

KZbin should do more to cut down on radicalizing right-wing hate/ propaganda channels, so that the algorithm CAN'T serve them up as often. There are tons of them on here and it's disgusting.

[@davidmeadows5627]

You can't use the government to force KZbin to silence people. The First Amendment won't allow it.

[@killraven123]

If they followed their own guidelines on discrimination and harassment the entirety of the daily wire would be off this platform

[@TD1237]

So true. But they are happy with the state of things. It means more business for them.

[@popegeorgeringo840]

​@@killraven123Yup. They can't suppress their own symbiotic propaganda networks!

[@paulaburrows8660]

Social media is everywhere. Every country. The only difference guns. America is drowning in guns.

[@ohmydamn6807]

😂

[@darex0827]

I have always loved the argument that you have a right to bear arms, but it doesn't say anything about ammo. You want to make your own bullets, casings, gunpowder and primers, be my guest.

[@mikew6060]

​@darex0827 ammo is a part of arms you freaking dipshit

[@TD1237]

Also in whlte supremists and far-right people. That's a large part of why these things occur in the US.

[@popegeorgeringo840]

True

[@2xmachina36]

That’s not gonna stick.

[@michaelmcgee8543]

Those are irrational laws suites.

[@rd9669]

😂yeah maybe they shouldn’t allow pos to post bs and misinformation, would save them a lot of trouble if they actually policed the content on their platform. Maybe create a terms of service or something to help enforce and establish the rules of the platform. 🤷‍♂️

[@marcuswilliams2212]

I understand Cenk but the issue is with people like Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson who say things in a conspiratorial way which spurs violence. So when social media doesn’t do anything to mitigate they should be partly liable. I mean there are plenty of flat earth conspiracist but they aren’t killing people on be half of their conspiracies.

[@Jbgunner2024]

So basically you think that the left are the only ones that should have a voice or be heard? Just say it then and stop beating around the bush.

[@DellikkilleD]

darwinism in action. if you can be prompted to violence by strangers you never even met, you are the problem.

[@albertusvanlubeeck9161]

The reason people become radicalized is often due to a lack of common sense. The solution lies in teaching and reinforcing critical thinking skills, enabling individuals to entertain even the most extreme ideas without succumbing to them. As Aristotle wisely said, 'It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.'

[@stecky87]

No, It's not "since you allowed these people to exist on your platform, it's your fault," It's "since you don't enforce your ToS, and allow people who encourge hate crimes on your platforms, you hold some responsibility"

[@hobologna]

What's wild is I use YT for news. I follow right wing media (I align with anarchosyndicalism and try to take an unbiased approach to news media) and once my algo starts leaning farm right, I start getting pretty radical videos. For example, videos on how to create clandestine guns and triggers. I don't own guns, don't watch gun videos.

[@thelastminuteman7513]

Show me these videos?

[@hobologna]

@@thelastminuteman7513 kzbin.infoEPmHsLIShMU?si=zvs8TjI6CvhiDEw4

[@jadapinkett1656]

It's not social media's problem that some people choose to act irresponsibly. You and you alone are accountable for your actions and beliefs. Not your parents, siblings, government, corporations, etc.

[@lachlanbell8390]

You sound like a far-right extremist. If you're not on a domestic terrorism watchlist, you probably should be.

[@ChibiHoshiDragon]

They need to make the algorithm more interactive, not behind the scenes result of clicks Every video you watch should have the ability to give options to help the algorithm If you didn't click (if it was auto-play), it should never count If you clicked, there should be an option to say accident, thumbnail interesting but video wasn't what you thought, subject interesting and want more, clicked for research (Not interested in the subject in the future), etc. There should be Not interested/Don't recommend channel options AFTER you click, not just in the rec section since you likely don't know if the video is in fact interesting or not until you watch the first few minutes of it.

[@CStuekey87]

I'm on team Cenk with this one. Each person is responsible for their content intake. I use all these sites listed, but choose to partake in content that isn't hateful. If anything, go after the specific content creators, not the platform they use.

[@TheLfamily24]

Cenk is wrong. Ana is right. She said she looked up the stuff for research not cus she likes it. It just forces content on us

[@baconman1919]

It also doesn't have to be a strict ban. We can just input policies that promote harm reduction and mitigate some of the risks.

[@Justin_Beaver564]

Let's stop blaming social media for everything. We're going to lose the internet at this rate.

[@pixelfive1272]

"What are they supposed to do?" They should be made to change their algorithms to avoid people getting sucked into bubbles. The whole concept of serving people more of what they've already watched is causing a rot and division in society and culture. If I want videos about Italy and knitting, I can look them up myself! If I get shown other videos, perhaps KZbin can help me expand my horizons! Also, I think it's disingenuous of Cenk to say that these platforms are highlighting humanity. That's like saying that casinos are perfectly fine, because they're only highlighting humanity. No - both are taking advantage of humanity and of people's vulnerabilities.

[@Dennisrader-ff9gv]

*dark room light of the computer shines on gis face as he rubs his hands together, hahaha "programs"*jpg

[@FDR_progressive_liberal]

When I started watching TYT on you tube, YT started foisting Alex Jones videos on me. I didn't know who he was at the time but quickly rejected him. YT made a choice to push him. Guilty.

[@pyhriel]

I completely disagree with Cenk on this one. Yes, I actually do think their should be rules in place to prevent companies from exploiting human nature. Also we do it for other thing, like drugs. Drugs are addictive because that is the way we are built as humans, but we shouldn't allow companies to exploit drugs to our detriment. Same could be said for other components of our alimentation. As for how to legislate how culpable the social media companies are, this is a hard one. I do think they overplay the "I am not reponsible" card. They basically do not want to invest in the systems and the people that would be required to better moderate their platforms. Another thing, I do feel that algorithms should be less "push" and more "pull". That is they should push less content towards you and be more responsive to your demands. The difference being that, the way it is currenlty set up, like Ana said, you just need to look for one thing once to be served more of that. I think the algorithm should instead wait for you to search for things instead of trying to "silo" you in. That way, if someone want to be exposed to the great replacement theory they can make explicit search for it, but they wont be fed that content continually unless they look for it. There is no simple solution to this sisue, but Cenk more or less denies that it is an issue, and I completely disagree with his take.

[@PariahRonin]

I think there's a huge mistake in the terms being used here - the algorithm isn't necessarily going to give a person what they want - it gives a person what it thinks they will watch... if they happen to like what they are watching cool - but its just as likely to serve up things that a person hates - if getting shown a bunch of things a person hate will keep someone watching. And that's whats more likely to radicalize a person.

[@chellanekrukar4869]

Yesssss. Finally held accountable

[@CMoney280]

This just proved to me that Cenk does not know how the algorithm works and how it is influenced

[@Bloodstar6078]

I think he does and he's playing dumb, which really frustrates me.

[@JeanYvesBouguet]

Cenk, I absolutely love your point of view here. Couldn’t have said it better.

[@justinallen1383]

Blaming social media is just the same repackaging of other things like playing Mortal Kombat made people violent or watching Power Rangers did too. Easier to blame others than to take responsibility.

[@norcalgirl9247]

I disagree with Cenk on this one. I'll just say that.😑

[@davidmeadows5627]

So you're against free speech. Why don't you just say that?

[@chrispycakes88]

I think meta’s algorithm works by demographics mostly because they advertise right wing BS and I never looked it up.

[@VolundMush]

I greatly dislike the addiction bubbles of things like the Facebook or KZbin algorithms. Not only does it lead to a tunnel vision echo chamber effect, but it crowds out coming across new and different stuff.

[@josephreber43]

Content moderation can be done with human beings, not just algorithms. All these companies must be held responsible for their defective products.

[@josephhuman7390]

I am old enough to remember Tipper Gore blaming Rock music, /Twisted Sister, Ozzy and alot more on society problems in the 80'90'Dragged everyone in front of Congress, it just never ends, same $hit just recycled over . The Government sucks....

[@ThePhenom777]

I believe he identified as left authoritarian in his writings.

[@Pigeon_Flipper]

Maybe algorithms should ask if we want more of something

[@yoshiinatuki]

Your paper analogy makes no sense; if you'd compare paper with computer (digital paper) then okay but not the company that amplifies certain content without any regard of concavenesses on our societal issues. Also if you can hold Fox accountable and it's not like Fox is 24/7 pushing the same content about replacement theory, unlike platforms that'll feed you that same content 24/7. "What do you want them to do about it?" I want them to follow their own TOS and not allow such content in the first place. You have to understand that algorithms even here on youtube are mostly pushing negativity even if you're not watching those type of videos. Try to search something here on KZbin, if you're lucky you'll get three relevant results and beneath that you'll get a lot of totally unrelated negative videos because they know that divisive content, rage and negativity is what's making sure that most of the people spend more time on their platform = $$$. I agree with Ana.

[@IAMTHESWORDtheLAMBHASDIED]

Fox should be the first and the first trial. they're a giant rot above all. then go after that which logically comes next. though I doubt after reviewing FOX with proper scrutiny one would find that all of those places that those content creators lacking a brain/conscious, take those points and seed them, thus, the platforms could do far far far better but the content creators getting their talking points from FOX or those others who first got theirs from FOX etc.. FOX watch it. you'll know what I mean. I have had that on for years non-stop until Gaza, I am like a.. aural/mental-masochist?

[@ThePhenom777]

This guy claims to be left.

[@danielguzman6934]

I agree with Ana. Not all feeds are created equal. If you watch funny cat videos and then because of the algorithm you get nothing but funny cat videos, this is harmless. If the algorithm shows you nothing but right-wing conspiracy theories, when there has been a mass shooting every other month carried out by a right-winger, you as a corporation should have a legal duty to protect society by eliminating this feedback. Why? Because there is a harm to society with this loop of information. This is why a company like Facebook should have a legal duty to not recommend Ben Shapiro, Fox News, among other conspiracy filled disinformation media. Fox News lost almost a billion dollars because of their lies. We need to extend this type of responsibility to websites like Facebook or KZbin. Allow such information to be on it, but don’t recommend it even if the viewer likes it, otherwise, you should also be responsible for the actions of people you helped to radicalize. You wanted money, then suck it. Under Cenk’s logic, we should not ban websites with child porn, otherwise, next thing we are going to do is ban TYT. He is making a slippery slope argument. I got news for you: we are already in a slippery slope. By the way, other states already ban, not only child porn, but all types of porn. I say yes: let’s ban the algorithm that promotes websites that promote lies, and disinformation pretending to be news organizations, like the Daily Wire and Fox News. You still have a first amendment to say all this garbage, but you don’t have a right to be recommended by the algorithm. I hope these websites lose a lot of money.

[@Jbgunner2024]

Nothing you just said was genuine at all. First of all, it doesn’t happen every other month. Clearly liberals from the hood kill way more, but I digress. Secondly, it sounds to me that you believe that only LIBERAL NEWS and ideology should be on the platforms. You should just say that instead of beating around the bush.

[@jeanette590]

I listened to a podcast about a lady who had a cult following and one of her members had unalived himself because she kicked him out. I looked her up and watched part of one her videos. For months KZbin tried to drag me down the rabbit hole.

[@ohmydamn6807]

😂😂 under that logic your calling for the daily wire To be allowed on all platforms and ban the channel your commenting on now 😂

[@DellikkilleD]

@@Jbgunner2024 we have had a mass shooting a day this year alone. so I guess you are half right, its not 'every month' its 30x that and its *always* some inbred righty

[@danielguzman6934]

@@ohmydamn6807 not so, because no one is getting inspiration from TYT to commit mass murder.

[@thegorgon7063]

The problem with KZbin is that the algorithms seem to push (paid for maybe?) content from right wing creators, even when I watch a lot of left-leaning and socially progressive creators.

[@bornwithoutprivilege2050]

It’s because they have learned that right wing people are less educated and more likely to become addicted and radicalized by the propaganda. They are the most action oriented radicals. We don’t have too many left wing radicals or domestic terrorists.

[@ChazTheYouthful]

This weird little maniac almost picked my city, except he wanted to go to a slightly more black neighborhood.

[@arthurkately388]

don't worry about it cenk, you good

[@haybigal]

This is the addicted to fast food argument

[@TheDarwinProject1]

I don't think asking social media sites to block certain algorithm results, like by blocking referrals based on specific videos. For example, if a video is about conspiracies, then the algorithm could ignore when people watch those videos. I don't think the whole algorithm needs to be scrapped, just that not all videos need to be "seen" by the algorithm.

[@dimxsk]

Yeah paper isn’t going to say “hey look at page 55 it’s definitely going to piss you off and make you buy more paper!” You’re smarter than tbis Cenk.

[@Jerry-rg8mx]

Now apply that to guns and you just about right wing these days fella.

[@ihartevil]

Roundup i got a question for my hearts true desire how much do you want me to talk about it Might it create coexisting i got more numbers to call and let them know i made the wrong government offical mad at me and find out the steps to take While i show that i am a commrad with the demons either i get this stuff fixed or everybody learns the truth including about demon towns

[@romulus463]

230 protects social media from lawsuits over content, and the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act protects the gun industry from lawsuits on what some third party does with a gun. So the plaintiffs, when (Not if) they lose, will be stuck with the legal costs of the defendants, because the media hound lawyers will be writing the suits in such a way, despite they being the ones who encouraged the lawsuit, wouldn't be held liable themselves as they seek praise from like minded individuals and raise funds for their organization. Such tactics had ruined other grieving family members before and I find the exploitation sickening.

[@davidschloeder5344]

It's about time,bc the truth matters.

[@tailoredfor831]

People seem to forget that some people are weak minded and susceptible to information taking over their thoughts and lives. These sites need responsibility, no different than locations that have patrons

[@hirumbiffidum9145]

This is such BS ...

[@baconman1919]

These algorithms aren't natural though

[@Chitwnboii104]

I don't think anybody should be playing football. The injury rate in the NFL is 100%. However, I don't believe we should ban it. Come on, judiciary, make it make sense.

[@Regenmacher175]

You should not have to get videos recommended to you by these platforms in the first place and they don't have to do it...and yet they so so. If these platforms refuse to do anything against the presence of the kind of hateful content that radicalises people they should have to face some legal consequences for that decision.

[@szymon308]

Great discussion between the two of you on this topic

[@AstroXeno]

I only watch left wing and non-political KZbin, and yet my recommendations are full of right wing bullshit all the time. It's even worse on Facebook.

[@waltlock8805]

They may have lost their "safe harbor" setting as soon as they started moderating and censor content. This may force social media to go back to simply being a place for anyone to speak. We can hope.

[@LSPalm]

Reddit is full of creeps though. Real terminal online never see the sun types

[@keithwilliams744]

Am sorry Anna but I totally disagree. What algorithms feed you content you don’t want or like theirs an option to no longer be sent such content. Also if you ignore it will stop coming. It’s only when you choose to continue to engage the content you are sent that you get more. He open and read even engaged with it meaning it interested him greatly.

[@qtziu8908]

You’re blaming a social media content for what a person thinks. Should they remove everything. Or things you find offensive. Who judges what is offensive. Jewish people find what pro-Palestinian people are saying. Do we remove their speech. That’s what, Freedom of Speech, means. Our right to say what we feel. How we react is our responsibility.

[@9000ck]

the cloud capitalists love this point of view. before the internet, we had something called 'editing.'

[@Alxus503]

Yesterday I opened up TikTok and the first thing I saw, was white supremacist ideology!! I swiped down and the second thing I saw was Trump's rhetoric talk!! WHY?

[@popegeorgeringo840]

Moneyed interests lean right.

[@Sad4Gullibles]

Is there still a suit against National Labor Relations Board from Space X, Amazon and Trader Joes?

[@jozob]

Cenk, they don't serve you "what you want". They serve you what stokes up emotions. If I watch one conspiration video out of hundreds I watch, that doesn't mean I want to now have all my feed conspirations only :D.

[@YTPrenewed]

Perhaps the lawsuit should be against those who failed to be more *convincing* than such vile radicalizing propaganda in the eyes of the shooter?

[@ThePhenom777]

The Democrats.

[@_nuance]

I like the new version of TYT, Ana started to make a lot of sense these days, but Cenk is 1000% right here, and it's good that they don't agree all the time, it's refreshing to know that at least they say what they really believe.

[@danielhess39]

Blame Hollywood and video games for violent content🙄🙄🙄 just like in the 1990’s🤦🏻‍♂️

[@powerflightme]

THIS GUY IS BEING MADE A HELTER SKELTER!!! I READ THE BOOK AND THE JUDICIARY HAS NOT CHANGED!

[@lmzaadi]

Agreed Cenk

[@stephenbailey8476]

Our government is failing us, STAND UP TO THE MACHINE !!!

[@xx133]

I’m looking for the inevitable “stop radicalizing everything” comment. 🍿

[@dankafuba]

This post supports hate against lgtb2k people i shake on my whole body

[@dewilew2137]

@@dankafuba what tf does this even mean?

[@virginiachris80]

Flat Earthers draw the line at Earth being flat.