Yuriko vs Kodama/Toggo vs Elsha vs Kenrith | CEDH Gameplay

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[@davidpabst8638]

It took me a long time to take my eyes out of Adam's playmat and pay attention to the game XD

[@DarkEinherjar]

Of course none of the opponents were able to get ahead of Zack: they COMPLETELY IGNORED HIM.

[@polkjio]

Was literally thinking this - it's so easy to shut down yuriko by bouncing or having blockers - zack didn't win the game, the others lost it.

[@alexanderficken9354]

Playing cheap counters really helped Zack force cards out of his opponent's hands

[@martinobispo8724]

Thanks to god someone pointed this out... all 3 opponents worked together to let yuriko win that game... just a mental misstep that initial one drop from yuriko and we will see a completely different game.... or just turn on the rock engine ASAP.... this is another clear example of poor threat assessment... sadly....

[@martinobispo8724]

@@polkjio That mental misstep on Elsha's hand... when i see it, as a regular yuriko player, i said "oh boy here we go no yuriko until turn 3" but they didnt realize how important is the 1 drops on turn one for yuriko

[@selkokieli843]

@Josh C.Just watched the card's designer Gavin Verney lament that Yuriko evades commander tax. Flawed design. Cool game though, I wouldn't necessarily spend a misstep to attack the slow deck, would save to help resolve Elsha just like was done in the game. Just didn't pan out that game. I think it's worthy to consider results oriented thinking may have had a role here

[@polruiz6587]

The whole game geared around yuriko having free attacks against kenrith, it was almost giving the game for free

[@clrl936]

And the Kenrith player had some good cards in his hand and did nothing for several turns...

[@antfayden4559]

That's the beauty of yuriko, usually at least one person is open

[@LemorasCards]

kenrith through when they decided not to run thoracle in their turbo naus list to appease complaining viewers.

[@onnilattu9138]

@@LemorasCardsYeah, bruh I thought we were playing cedh still

[@LemorasCards]

@@onnilattu9138 guess they're back on their thoracle ban bullshit they were doing for weeks.

[@leonamfernandesdasilva9012]

philip already had the engine of infinite rocks pretty early, he could have tried to kill zacks creatures, and control the board a little bit a long time ago, because tbh 3 yuriko triggers per turn is a lot

[@signisakanades1329]

I think the concern there was if one of the other players plays a Dockside Extortionist, they would have infinite mana and win the game, which would have happened from the Elsha side. That is why he is probably killing Adam cause Kenrith likes his Docksides.

[@leonamfernandesdasilva9012]

@@signisakanades1329 there was no need to go infinite, just 3~4, to use to kill smal creatures at the very least

[@sir_quirkus7206]

i dont understand that natures claim play. he cast it responding to the upkeep trigger. he is at 7 life. if he loses worst case scenario he is at 4. on his main phase he can use it for 2 mana THEN kill it to gain 4 life. either way he still has to flip for the trigger and thi s way he gets to actuallyt use it for mana ...im very confused by this play

[@superskaldy]

Because it's high power not cedh. And bad players

[@johnb3427]

Just like why wasn’t there ANOTHER attack on the extra turn? What was the wait for? Confused?

[@TwistedxGamer101]

As someone who also plays and loves a cEDH Elsha deck I busted in laughter seeing the counter spells resolve. Almost anytime my play group does cEDH this happens when I cast Elsha lol

[@DefinitelyNotReal627]

Always fun to see Yuriko, or any 'combat matters' deck do well. cEDH is a better format for their inclusion.

[@SoulsOnly]

I actually think commander ninjutsu is obnoxious as a mechanic.

[@SoulsOnly]

@@ESP4thaWin I just hate how it gets around Commander Tax

[@greyaye8565]

Unfortunately Commander Ninjutsu is a poorly-designed mechanic. It basically forces every single Yuriko deck to be functionally identical, and requires very little thought into how to play the deck. The fact that it circumvents Commander Tax is a huge problem.

[@skittlzism]

I thought this was virtual, and when Brandon’s arm came across the screen I was like 0.0

[@JGushi87]

It is fun to see a budget deck wins!

[@alfredolubrano8594]

I'm a simple man: I see Elsha, I like the vid.

[@bmdola]

Same but Toggo

[@mordamen]

Hell yeah! You in our discord? We'd love to have another Elsha enthusiast!

[@alfredolubrano8594]

@@mordamen sadly not :(

[@styfen]

This one had everyone just let the budget deck win. Yuriko's an incredibly dangerous threat who is super hard to remove, so the only appropriate response is to remove either all the creatures or the player piloting it. I expect better threat assessment from you guys next time Yuriko appears on the channel.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yeah that's not going to happen.

[@jasonjara3453]

Elsha is love, Elsha is life. I just think that Elsha should've tutored for sensei instead of Remora so that he can kind of lock the board with it since he already have helm of awakening in hand.

[@Snypsas]

He needed to get to the Elsha mana first

[@kylepereira5672]

@@Snypsas the point here is that sensei’s top and counter balance is the combo until elsha mana

[@Snypsas]

@@kylepereira5672 Ahhh yes, locking the table with countertop with already scarce resources

[@sir_quirkus7206]

@@Snypsas its a 1 mana activation lol

[@bouncedtv]

@@sir_quirkus7206 1 mana hurts when your missing land drops

[@manuelcamara6400]

Never thought I'd see my favorite commander pair in here tbh

[@Tbonesteakayaya]

Another great performance by Zack and Yuriko. Love to see a $100 deck kick butt!

[@skyarcher04]

That yuriko deck is constantly a threat in the pod of players.

[@Vagrantlol]

Feel like MVP should go to Adam who, unfortunately and unintentionally, king-made Zack.

[@aquablue3dsi]

Man that Kenrith deck really kicked ass didnt it. . .

[@AutkastKain]

Every time Yuriko is here, it's always a great game. Love you content!

[@passprioritypodcast]

COOLEST PLAYMAT CHALLENGE LETS GOOOO!!! #GOOSEGANG

[@km7614]

Tell me its staged without telling me its staged: Kenrith player

[@foddersfollies7494]

I don't understand why the opponents keep letting Yuriko win. Threat assessment seems to be lacking for this play group, or they're too greedy. With yuriko, everybody has to play to keep that trigger from happening, even when you're not the target of the attack.

[@antonio2708]

I think she is a very difficult creature to deal with, her ability evades commander fees, plus the psychological effect that she "harms everyone equally", so strategically there are players who think they are favored by her and at the right time will deal with her. Big mistake.

[@nharviala]

I think they underestimate it, hearing it's a budget deck. It lacks the bigger threats to hit, knows it lacks most free counterspells as well. So, my guess is, seeing as the deck runs a bunch of commons, they think they can handle it later, when Elsha and Kodama both threaten to explode at any second, and Ad Nauseum can respond after the counter war. That's my guess at the threat assessment, at least.

[@raleldor]

very hard card to interact with.. and removal doesn't really work on her.

[@foddersfollies7494]

@@raleldor but it does work on the other creatures. I guess I am just used to my play group where creature removal became a priority when Hullbreacher happened.

[@nharviala]

@@abuelovinagres4411 I think people also think that being able to handle 1, maybe 2 extra cards a turn is fine, since other players at the table will naturally outpace that, while the life loss is usually minimal, doing about 4-6 damage a turn. On paper, a Dark Confidant that takes about 10 turns to kill you sounds reasonable to handle. Issue is, it never really works out that way.

[@smolclips5996]

I like Adam's impersonation of the black knight from monty pythons

[@shilohartisan]

5:41 Phillip should make infinite rocks here yes? In response to the Kodama trigger from Priest of Titani he can tap his Taiga for green, and pay green to Living Twister to bounce Taiga. Then he puts Taiga into play to the Kodama trigger. This triggers Toggo to make a rock. The rock triggers Kodama and in response he can do the TaigaTwister thing again. Am I missing something?

[@shilohartisan]

I guess you don't want infinite rocks without a way to win. Others you're just begging to extorted on the dockside.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Infinite rocks and abjure y'all know what my heart wants.

[@jaysalvadoriiisalvosa1625]

Adam's playmat looks lit too! Fun stuff!

[@btbwilkinson]

I run Kodama/Toggo, so I was really excited to see it here!

[@whotookmcwerbenagain]

Just met you guys on OSRS, so I dropped by to say hi! Also more Rielle and 5 games in legacy!

[@heeshka]

Im always impressed by that Yuriko deck

[@adamriley6190]

this game would have been waaay different if Adam had any blockers at all … almost made the game easier for Zack

[@jaredsmith6565]

Love the budget Yuriko deck! Sad that counter balance did next to nothing this game but I still believe in the card

[@hahayes6103]

Crazy that the Yuriko deck costs less than any of his opponents starting hands alone, and still was able to win. What a crazy card.

[@TempestDacine]

Adams mat was next level haha

[@0megaMTG]

Can you guys do a cEDH and/or high power game with the planechase?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

We've done one in the past actually! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6eqZqF9pppsq6M

[@0megaMTG]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG dope! Had no idea thanks for making it easy for me and linking it 😁

[@garyoakes1869]

*SPOILER* Somebody said it already but Holy moly did all three opponents just hand zach the win through poor threat assessment

[@doriandog4335]

Great game for Adam!

[@Rh3ttD4v1s]

Let’s go Brandon! I have a good friend who helped write the Elsha primer.

[@douglasmarcondes3592]

Another amazing game for Yuriko!

[@blakemcconnell6213]

Budget Yuriko seems like something I would love to build

[@TheRDRipley]

I love that Yuriko deck so much. Just a good budget deck with a SWEET commander. Love to see it.

[@dasfabelwesen]

Abjure is insane!

[@shoroku1101]

Might be top 3 favorite counter spell for me in Yuriko.

[@johnb3427]

Why is there a Citadel in the Kenny deck list ?? I don’t see a dividing top in order to pay one life and fuel up into drawing 1 card for 1 life in the deck?? How does bolas Citadel from the deck list have a purpose ??? or maybe I’m missing something

[@RageofVaddix]

Yuriko! I love watching gameplays with her! She's my current favorite commander! :D

[@VRanger100]

It was nice of Adam to not to flood his playmat with nonlands so we can enjoy it longer.

[@thevp_ssb.]

Cool. I have a Yuriko deck and a deck that includes Toggo as a commander. My Toggo includes Akiri though, so it is all about making Akiri big.

[@InquisitorSinCross]

Commander ninjutsu should be affected by the commander tax.....

[@jonwaters3401]

Man Ryan has been kicking butt with his yuriko and selvala haha

[@JordanKarim]

Great content as always! One suggestion is to differentiate between actually responding to something (like a trigger or spell) and doing something whenever a player has priority (switching phases). "In response" doesn't really seem to apply when something happens before switching phases

[@therealax6]

Yeah, I'd phrase the latter as "at the end of , ...".

[@reapergaming8810]

Will you all ever do another cEDH planechase?

[@internaut2]

Seeing how oppressive Yuriko is.. years ago I threw a tantrum because playgroup had a Yuriko player just shredding everyones budget decks for like 10 sessions straight undefeated. Amazing how shes still so effing dominant. S+ tier commander. But tryhard and super mainstream. Seeing these games lately is triggering my ptsd. It would take a soulless unimaginative smooth brain individual to pilot Yuriko honestly its unethical outside of CEDH. REEEEeee

[@MrInvisibleJ]

That kenrith... Showing the opening hand and then never seeing Adam play a card is kinda obvious

[@nixonsback8771]

Can someone tell me what art the Nicol Bolas playmat is? I really want it, but I can't think of what card that art is from, if any. I'm hoping its not some custom job.

[@leress]

It's Commence the Endgame playmat. The art is from the card 'Commence the Endgame' from the set War of the Spark. It's not custom but by Ultra Pro and it out of print.

[@alexhill2495]

Ooh fun another game with Yuriko where the things the other players do basically don't matter. Y'all enjoy watching this?

[@kristopherwatts9466]

It might be a cEDH mentality thing.. but I don't understand Phillip taking out Adam. He didn't do anything all game, and wouldn't having someone else with removal to use on the Yuriko deck be better then knocking out an opponent?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Politics can do wonders - Zack

[@kristopherwatts9466]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG this could be me not seeing it in videos(I don't play cEDH).. but why is it politics are so.. non existent in cEDH? I get that a player can win out of nowhere.. but it feels like the other players are a resource that really don't get utilized that well

[@ElyrionX]

Because it’s clear Philip is a really bad player. So many bad plays the whole game. Nature’s Claim responding to Crypt trigger with 7 health was laughably bad.

[@skourer8107]

Is it the budget Yuriko deck again ?

[@leress]

yes

[@autoenthused]

Came for Elsa. Wasn’t disappointed

[@PrairiePridePoultry]

How do I join Playing with Power Discord? I am a Patreon member

[@connorbell5340]

Christ that yuriko list does work

[@connorl0204]

What would have been the result of getting infinite rocks off of toggo?

[@selkokieli843]

the next dockside likely winning the game

[@connorl0204]

@@selkokieli843 i get that, bit like how does he turn infinity rocks into a win? Kci got infinite mana then spine of ish sah loop sounds awful in a competitive game and that’s all that’s coming to mind.

[@onnilattu9138]

What the fuck was Adam doing lmao

[@AidanWR]

I wanted to see infinite rocks because I wanted to build a deck with infinite rocks

[@stevenlorenzo7399]

6:33-6:37 🧐

[@kylarcheng1346]

Couldn’t Kodama living twister Toggo, and the taiga make infinite rocks?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Even if he could, it would be very dangerous without a follow-up to end the game on the spot. You really don't want your opponents to drop a Dockside Extortionist with all those rocks on the field...

[@hectormorales4090]

It just never cease to impress how a budget deck like this it’s soooo dang good. GG guys!

[@Rabbit3]

Go Elsha!

[@Cormix34]

Yuriko is my favorite commander and Dimir is my favorite colors, Great job Ryan but…. Let’s Go Brandon!!!

[@jonahmatso1920]

i got a migrain watchign all these missplays

[@antonio2708]

Yuriko won, again.

[@Cormix34]

Let’s Go Brandon!

[@ManTheMaker]

Is that Everquest music at the end?

[@brettsutherland8390]

Of course yuriko wins

[@juancast22]

How did brandon cast counterbalance? did he use his luck counter on the brainstorm ? sorry if i missed something.

[@deltaaudi0]

If gemstone has a luck counter it taps for any color and the counter is never actually removed from it regardless how many times you tap it.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Gemstone Caverns doesn't lose the luck counter when tapped for colored mana.

[@juancast22]

ah ok gotcha i misread it and thought the counter came off. Thanks for clearing guys!

[@ulthunter8641]

Hello

[@djnotnice8416]

Kenrith threw the game by not mulliganing properly and boned everyone else. Of course they could've tried doing literally anything to stop Yuriko.

[@argonnas2]

Woot

[@ercolacri3500]

I see Yuriko. I click.

[@Pyroshax]

I've been trying to build gruul kodama for a while, and this is why I don't like Toggo. He does nothing. It requires so many extra pieces that do nothing unless you're comboing. Jeska, Thrice Reborn is a MUCH better partner to Kodama in the same color. Look at this game, Jeska could've put in SO much work. Kill all of Zach's 1/1s? Check. Accelerate the Kodama beats plan during slow games? Check. Jeska is just such a better piece of utility AND is also an infinite mana outlet. He's already running Tireless Tracker/Provisioner AND Scute swarm for the "Token Producing" slot for the kodama combo, why does he need a WORSE one in the command zone?

[@spiralhaze2070]

Mah boi Toggo!

[@RaydShadow]

Rocc

[@ggpt9641]

Of note, budget Yuriko has won twice, fairly recently on this channel.

[@sscjessica]

I feel like these yuriko games are just staged for budget plays. Misplays and odd Mulligan's Yuriko is a bull shit card, why is this allowed but hull breather banned?

[@onnilattu9138]

Yuriko is a fine card, as long as the amount of actually good ninjas doesn't skyrocket. But yes I agree, the games featuring Zack's deck are pretty fucking weird, like why the hell would Adam play like this?

[@OnyxANZ]

"B-b-b-b-but budget cedh doesn't exist!" - Reddit

[@superskaldy]

Why does no one ever pressure the yuriko deck. "Hey guys let's damage EACH OTHER, because 3v1 on yuriko would be MEAN, right!? Shucks....CEDH!!" Idk why you guys do patron games, or guest games, or any thing other than the actual cast. These kids dont play CEDH and it's a waste of time, honestly.

[@commanderpower99]

I'm not sure what's more impressive.

[@styfen]

I think you'll find the most impressive thing is the way the other three players sat there and did nothing to interact or stop the strongest player all the way until Yuriko won.

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Zach is masterful with Yuriko

[@tylerbrooks6063]

Really just goes to show how ridiculous Yuriko is as a commander. It's so easy to make OP. Any time someone sits down with it at a casual game I pretty much always let them know that I'm going to at the very least to what I can to not let them attack.

[@eliasfajardo6148]

lel, Kenrith was just for the lulz. Did nothing all the game. Nice to see a budget deck winning.

[@zachsuedmeyer2526]

0 cmc is different from "no cmc" lands have no cmc. At least this works when you cascade. Mox diamond can cascade into ancestral recall for example.

[@polruiz6587]

Cascade states nonland and cast that's why lands don"t work with it

[@DarkEinherjar]

You're confusing mana cost with mana value (the new name for CMC). Every card has a mana value, and if they have no mana costs, such as lands, the mana value is 0. Tolaria West, for example, can be transmuted into any land.

[@zachsuedmeyer2526]

@@DarkEinherjar Is there a rule that you can point me to that says this? I am going to a Cedh tournament soon and I plan on cascading "0" into "no" cmc/ mana value unless I see a rule that says I can't. Therefore I need to be 100% sure one way or another

[@leress]

202.3a: The converted mana cost of an object with no mana cost is 0, unless that object is the back face of a double-faced permanent or is a melded permanent. For the complete section CR 202. Mana Cost and Color.

[@zachsuedmeyer2526]

@@leress i actually read this just an hour ago, just noticed the comment. I'm kinda bummed because this used to work based on a rule my judge friend found. Now I need to rework my yidris or at least slightly change my goal of the deck. It used to be cascade >0 and go off with a ton of mana, now I'm going to need to update it to tutor for some win con ig :/

[@christoph7380]

I love to see budget decks, but can you please don't mix budget decks with "normal" cedh decks

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Why? We first got grief because it was all budget against one another and there was no proof the budget decks were "viable". So you're suggesting we don't mix them together?

[@christoph7380]

Yes, I personally would prefer it that way, but of course you can continue to bring what you want on this channel, after all, it's your channel