Why Do All Your Knives Look The Same? || Ben Banters and EDC Pocket Knife Philosophy!

[@benbanters]

That intro is my new favorite cinema sequence. 🤣 So good. Thank you Zac and Jamie for having me on for the conversation on this one. Next time, you can have the Slurpee, and I'll have the off-brand Maverik drink.

[@zacinthewild]

So good getting together dude!💪

[@Ashton.everydaycarry]

Sometimes you have to run through fields and swim across lakes to talk about knives!

[@stephan123321]

....ich denke, ich spreche im Namen von vielen, wenn ich sage, das es stets eine Freude ist, wenn ihr zusammen eure Leidenschaft für Messer und fürs Leben vor der Kamera mit uns teilt, danke dafür! "..I think I speak on behalf of many when I say that it is always a pleasure when you share your passion for knives and for life in front of the camera with us, thank you for that!" Stay sharp & Peace, Stephan

[@olaf_industries]

ben the man, i missed u. much love

[@TODD.GO.49ers.PACKER]

Back in the saddle...Ben and Zac, with Jamie behind camera....awesomeness

[@orendz7740]

Oh my god man you 2 have no idea how big my smile is right now seeing you both together at a desk on KZbin. Makes a grown man feel all squishy inside. I might even cry a bit.

[@zacinthewild]

I felt the same! Glad you’re digging it🤘

[@wupwop]

Heck yeah

[@benbanters]

Happy crying is totally acceptable.

[@DailyDrivenBikes_1]

Ka bar has plenty of clones of the fighting knife out there. And there's plenty of clones of m9 bayonet.

[@orendz7740]

@@benbanters man it’s good to see ya on the tube ✌🏽

[@Commander_Cody7]

When the knife world needed them the most ….the horn was honked and they assembled to bring the world a masterclass in knife design. Thank you Ben and Zac! This as is everything on this channel is amazing!

[@callendavidson2054]

I can’t believe I’m watching Ben and Zac in a KZbin video again! I can tell y’all put so much effort into this video, and it shows. Well done!

[@zacinthewild]

🔥🤘

[@EverydayMinimalist]

Seeing you two together makes my heart sing… EPIC VIDEO gents 🤘🏼🥹

[@zacinthewild]

Glad you’re digging it!👊

[@benbanters]

I'm so glad you're here, Brandon. We need to do a big collaboration video one day...

[@shaquilleoneal117]

My god it’s Brandon

[@CoolWaterDave]

Thanks so much for getting together with Ben. You guys got me back into the knife hobby, and you guys are the absolute best together. Hopefully you guys can keep making content because a majority of EDC content today is horrible. ❤️ Kurt and Jamie need to be on the camera too. Great cinematography Jamie!

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you for tuning in💪

[@cameronbuckner254]

Zac, your channel has quickly become my favorite knife/adventure/just amazing awesome youtube channels! I look forward to your stuff all the time and you are one of the only channels I have notifications turned on for. Seeing you and Ben talking knives and life is amazing! I still remember watching my firs episode of Knife banter with you and him, and you convinced me to by a Spyderco Roc cause you were both talking about cleaver blades! Seeing you both now, with you finishing up your new workspace, and Ben doing his own thing with the Knafs brand and the Lander, it's so awesome to see you guys doing your own things! I hope that God blesses you both and you both continue to do your own things! You guys are the best!

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you so much! This made my whole day man!👊

[@benbanters]

Thank you, Cameron! I think I can speak for both us in saying we're incredibly grateful that folks like you have stuck with us on this weird journey of professional life. It's good to have you on board.

[@napsterninja]

The two men that got me into knives a few years ago. Thank you both, been wonderful and I have a growing knife collection. Great video, love the intro.

[@zacinthewild]

Glad you found us here!

[@bartholomausnovember7962]

You also got me into knives a few years ago. Then you lost me a bit (or BladeHQ did). And now, figuratively speaking, we three are back together here talking knives. That’s great, thanks!

[@jeromewear7603]

You guys should do this once a week or so, maybe around the middle of the week. Haha I've missed this so much, knife banter was my favorite KZbin show of all time. You guys are great, I'm so happy to see where you've gone.

[@zacinthewild]

That would be a lot🤣

[@cgunz]

@@zacinthewild once a month?!

[@cworkman92]

Wow this takes me back to 2019 when I first found Knife Banter! Love seeing you 2 on the screen together!

[@cworkman92]

To add my 2 cents on the whole discussion of knives/ same names- could have a lot to do with what some would call the collective conscious

[@zacinthewild]

Totally agree!

[@BushCraftMan]

Ben, Zac (Jamie and Austin), you guys got me started on the "knife life" years ago. Through your mentorship, humility and humor you guys have shown the world that the knife community is rooted in friendship and fun. Great to see Ben and Zac together again. Keep up the great work!

[@zacinthewild]

Got the deep cuts with Austin! Thanks for watching man👊

[@jamesirwin5887]

This video brought back all of the happiness I have been missing from the BladeHQ vids in the last years. So overjoyed to see you two in frame together. That intro sequence was definitely warranted for such an epic reunion.

[@mrnorcross]

YES!!! Please do these videos every now and then! It's so much fun to see you guys together again.

[@zacinthewild]

Glad you dug it!

[@justingarnick6021]

When u get to a point in knife collecting you understand that the small nuances in knives are what make them different and special. To a non knife nerd all knives look alike. I think it’s the small changes that make the general knife design special. The banter and baby banter are spot on designs. Haven’t gotten a lander just yet. But I can definitely see the design cues that make it different

[@benbanters]

Thanks for your support with the Banter series! You're spot on: nuance is so critical.

[@seth30v]

What a reunion! I haven’t had so much fun watching a knife video in a long time. The honest, thoughtful, and nuanced conversation is much appreciated. Banter on! But what I’m really here for is to ask the question your Sanrenmu discussion made me ask myself: are the old Schrade, Puma, Case, Camillus, Utica, and Ka-Bar folding hunters all clones of the Buck 110?

[@zacinthewild]

Traditionals are such an interesting case for this idea. I honestly don’t know enough to weigh in. I’d live to hear ideas though!

[@henrys.6333]

That’s a great point! I’ve heard a lot of those other companies back lock, brass bolster, clip point blades, called a “Buck Knife” so that’s definitely an interesting topic! I believe that they’re all “brothers” like Ben said because they are so similar, but I can totally see someone calling them all clones for a handful of reasons.

[@danielwasused]

just like the good ol days. love to see it

[@zacinthewild]

It felt great to link up again!

[@mj1653]

The OGs back again. This hits me in the feels

[@SwingCritic141]

“This looks like that, looks like that.. well they should.” 100% right and honestly a brilliant point.

[@nickmartino2839]

Lol omg..........30 seconds in and my heart is so full with joy!!!!! Lol I literally can't stop smiling!!!!!!and Jamie....... Jamie........ that intro!!!!!!! Omg BEST EVA!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol

[@zacinthewild]

Jamie is and always has been a wizard!

[@benbanters]

Filming a video about knives: 2 hours Filming an intro for a video about knives: 6 hours Time management is a social construct. 🙃😂

[@wesworswick2816]

YES! Make this a semi regular thing! Miss watching you both in the same video, and this was fantastic. Cheers guys.

[@zuology3437]

Omg it's happening again! I will buy whatever I need to fund the continued duo episodes whichever channel they are on. SO HAPPY. The way these two interact is so fantastic and open up more minds together

[@zacinthewild]

I really do love feeding off of Ben’s perspective!

[@jjabberjaw8822]

I don't know what I was expecting with this collaboration, but thanks for the deep dive on knife design. I have a feeling that this is going to shape how I look at knife designs and similarities between designs in general. Also, obviously, it's great seeing you guys working together and talking so openly. I hope this happens again at least occasionally.

[@zacinthewild]

Glad it got you thinking! Ben always looks at things from such a visually balanced perspective which is opposite me so I love hearing his thoughts!

[@jjabberjaw8822]

@@zacinthewild I really appreciate that. Ben definitely seems to have a designer's perspective. Your willingness to dive down rabbit holes and give historical context compliments that very nicely.

[@jandreoni]

Ahhhh, this is like the good 'ole days! This made my week, thanks, guys!!!

[@beefbroroni]

You guys are what got me into knives and now I thank you both truly love seeing y’all together

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you for tuning in!👊

[@jackoko3457]

YES!!! Zac thank you so much for sitting down with Ben again! Awesome job on the channel! I wish you nothing but the best and I'll be here watching every step of the journey 🤘🤙

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you so much🙏

[@adamclark99]

Without these two I wouldn’t have a love for knifes! Also I’m a anthropology major now and love the idea of looking at the knife community through a anthropological lens!

[@poncho151]

I’m so glad both of you are still around and thriving in the digital media knife space with your respective independent ventures!

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you for following along!

[@JP-8924]

The boys are back in town!

[@zacinthewild]

Guess who just got back today…

[@JP-8924]

@@zacinthewild Other than Ben? Who would that be?

[@christiancannon3364]

This definitely felt nostalgic. Absolutely rad to see you both talking about knifes like old times.

[@jamboi3000]

Such a great video! I was a little disappointed you didn''t hit that trampoline though Zac!

[@jasonscott6906]

So awesome to see you both together, I had just got Into the knife hobby and found blade HQ right around the time time that you two were doing the videos together. I subscribed to your channel Zac when you had done the very first video and you had made four or five and then you didn’t make any for a few months so I figured you had decided to stop I’m so glad you decided to keep going, I really enjoy all your content please keep them coming. And thanks for keeping it positive man 👍 I appreciate it. And Ben you are awesome and I will buy one your knives when they are available, I really love simple design as well.

[@zacinthewild]

Glad you found us here. The support means the world👊

[@jeremybernstein8808]

This was the fastest 30+ minute video I’ve ever watched. As for doing it again, I’d watch this type of content from you guys every week!!! Please continue to do all of the things you’ve been doing!

[@apoptosis4all526]

This is an amazing video/conversation between you two! You both brought so much insight and knowledge and passion that this was genuinely a fun one to watch. I’m loving the content so far and am looking forward to your next duo video! ✌️

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you for the kind words! Once we get going we kind of just keep going🤣

[@gordonmacdowell8117]

Great to see the Team back together again! I miss this in depth discussion on knives.

[@GMono-qs6cl]

Often imitated never duplicated. You can't buy chemistry. There's a way to tie in with one another to help each other with your respective goals. I'll let you guys figure that out. Whatever the means, I'm sure it will be highly entertaining and informative. Xmas is a long time away. Quarterly? Semi-monthly? Continued success. You two are killing it!

[@zacinthewild]

Thanks man!👊

[@elvinamillaneam]

Greetings Guys, What a great episode watching you guys... Looking forward to seeing you guys again...

[@PaulMunkoTV]

Such a great conversation guys! Loved hearing you guys get into the nitty gritty here. One of the biggest things I catch myself doing when designing knives is wondering "does it look to close to x, y or z". It's a pain, because it brings me to a point of indecision where some ideas just get scrapped all together. I think when sketching something, it is a lot easier to be hyper aware of your own influences in a way that far exceeds how others will see it. The sum of all of the parts is what makes something unique in it's own way!

[@benbanters]

I love hearing this from you, Paul. You've been there, my friend!

[@PaulMunkoTV]

@@benbanters Absolutely! It's ok to be inspired, slowly getting comfortable with that notion. Congrats on the Lander Ben, wishing you a ton of success on this release!

[@ml8067]

Zac, thanks for doing a video Ben. You two just have a great chemistry. This was a really good topic. You know we would welcome more of these videos. Please keep doing what you are doing now. Really good to have you back

[@joe_a_photo]

Wow. This intro was totally incredible

[@zacinthewild]

Thanks! It was an adventure answering Ben’s call🤣

[@phantom6knight]

This was such an incredible video for so many reasons! I loved the intro; I firmly believe that if your relationship with one another in “real” life - always there for each other! Having you guys together again for a video is always a treat! It was like watching an after school special, or when a guest star shows up on your favorite show! And the discourse was amazing… convergent and divergent design and cultural content… I feel much more educated! I’m glad you see the Lander as a Honda Accord, solid vehicle of choice and makes a great analogy! It makes me so excited to get that Lander to match my Accord! 🤗 Definitely do more videos like this, I miss both your perspectives on knife designs, philosophies, and general knife life. You’re both such kind and powerful voices in this community and it’s inspirational!

[@IvIidnight]

Love seein' y'all back together talking knives! You said there was a "Ham Hands" cameo in another video; do y'all know what's going on with BladeHQ's KZbin channel not putting out videos and/or why Kurt wasn't a part of their Blade Show coverage?

[@zacinthewild]

Kurt left HQ a few months ago.

[@duartduplessis1046]

Why did this bring me so much joy? Good old days

[@nicholascoulter3760]

It's kinda like how Disney and Pixar made Ants and A Bugs Life with absolutely no thought to what the other was doing but through market research both realized that a movie about bugs would do well.

[@zacinthewild]

This was an exact example I thought to use but never got too😎

[@rhoer99]

I’ll watch whatever you guys want to talk about - miss seeing you guys together 👍😘

[@Mridgwell]

This was awesome !!! Great to see you guys back together again . My obsession with knife content was fueled by your videos on BHQ I have a whole new appreciation for how great those days were . Thanks Ben and Zach great to see you both on a new journey thanks for the memories

[@jealous37]

Love seeing Ben again after so long. Please do more videos with Ben!

[@auggieedc205]

You guys absolutely exude positive vibes! Keep being the best at what you do!

[@Chriis_Perry16]

I love the intellectual depth that this conversation morphed into. I wish more in the industry would have discussions like this rather than just blurting specs and hyping the latest greatest X Y Z.

[@aldenbarbieri]

Definitely need more Ben Banter talk!!!

[@dannykampner]

What is unique here is that you all seem to be having FUN and ENJOYING what you are doing - and sharing this joy and enthusiasm with others! Keep it up !! Its not just a tech review - its a mood uplift !!

[@LarrySchwemle]

Awesome says it all! I'd like this to be more frequent than every now and then but we'll take it any time you guys are ready. Thanks for the excellent video and conversation.

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you for tuning in!

[@fredf9562]

During the first days of the pandemic lockdown your joint videos on BHQ got me to resume knife collecting, after a 35 year hiatus. My first new knife, the Elementum! You both should make content periodically. Thanks 🙏

[@zacinthewild]

Great blade choice!

[@MrBadkarma1985]

First of all it's great to see y'all collabing again. Certain other channels have not been the same since you left! It's really interesting to see how close most knife designs are. Ill watch anything the 2 of you put out so please give us more!

[@zacinthewild]

👊

[@MrBadkarma1985]

@@zacinthewild 🤘🤙

[@chrisv6321]

We needed this video? Great work guys!

[@tradesmithedc]

If I could like this video 100 times I would. It is AMAZING to see you two together again talking knives

[@wordoftruthbroadcast2632]

Love seeing y'all together

[@christopherbrendeland1206]

Wow! I didn't think I would ever see this dynamic duo together again! Please make this a regular thing 🙏. Ideas? How about more interviews from designers? Jesper is a fantastic interview! Or maybe other industry figure heads, like the great Nick Shabazz! Show off those interview skills Zac!

[@oscarbaltazar8120]

As a designer I love seeing a discussion about problem solving as an object resigned over and over again Aka (pocket knifes variations) simple or complex in appearance doesn’t always mean the same in execution. Loved this video and hope to see more like this in the future.

[@JamesMBC]

I love that Zack and Ben are doing their own thing, their own YT channels. These guys have done so much for the knife world. And they are naturals at being youtubers. Such good content, keep it up!

[@eddiecastellana9339]

Watched a lot of knife banter. You two really give us things to wrap our brains around!! Laughing most of the way! Thanks

[@ericnovella7286]

Watching you two brought out some serious nostalgia. It made me think back when Knife Banter was good. Especially with the intro. Keep up the awesome content, Zac.

[@QuackLoud]

Zac, another awesome video. I really miss Ben and his Big Brain discussions. Ordering a Lander now. Thanks for helping me spend money.

[@benbanters]

Ha! I'm not sure if they're big brain or tiny brain discussions, but I appreciate the support nonetheless.

[@srtc317]

Yooo. This makes me happy. Glad to see you 2 at the same table again!!!

[@dp505knives]

Looking forward to the Christmas Special, really enjoyed the video and truths of design.

[@zacinthewild]

I’m thinking hot cocoa, a fire, and some pointy things🎅

[@NG_Ark]

Quarterly for sure. Great to see you guys together behind a table of knives again. Always interesting to hear about the knife industry and how products come together for us consumers. And 18k subscribers?? Let’s go!

[@zacinthewild]

Honestly feeling real lucky👊

[@licustoms]

From A Ben to Zac! Yes please, your combined dynamics and banters play well together, so keep these coming!

[@J2-R2]

Can we all acknowledge that all knife links are to Amazon and not to a prior employment location. Makes me wonder if there is any animosity.....BTW I am so happy you two are back together, this just feels so natural and so needed in 2022! Happy for you both!!

[@MR.MR.DESIGNS]

Two legends. Ben is spot on with his knife design theories and philosophies. Please make this a regular series!👍

[@vanrooyendavid]

I live on the South Island of New Zealand. It's 5am. I'm secretly and quietly watching this as to not make a noise. It's freezing cold in the middle of winter but I am so happy because long last again I can watch two men that know knives! Awesome. I hope you are doing this more often.

[@benbanters]

I love this comment so much. Stay warm down there!

[@zacinthewild]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bobyu84]

So awesome to see this. Your original BHQ vids were what got me into the knife game.

[@zacinthewild]

Stoked to found us here!

[@lorihaymore6188]

Always love seeing the two of you together!

[@BoatingWithBlake]

Keep the colabs going you guys are great!

[@jbeng4620]

Glad to have you guys back together (even if it’s just now and then)

[@myvids3115]

Nice talk. Enjoyed it with some vibe of memory lane.Great.

[@kylearmstrong21]

I appreciate everything Ben says and designs because he humbly knows everything!

[@stemerickj]

Man really helps fills the void, The old knife banters are what got me to transition from Gerber’s to Benchmade’s and open the door to the knife world. Great work keep it up.

[@stemerickj]

To add something, this video is killing yesterdays BladeHQ video so I hope that tells you something

[@edc-n-stuff]

I enjoyed this video so much! It's great to see you together again. Talking knives, philosophy, anthropology, Slurpees, history... My favorite kinda nerds. I'm totally going to read that paper. As soon as I get done spending some time with my chamfers.

[@zacinthewild]

Definitely tend to the chamfers first😉

[@GenericBrandDan]

I know a guy who was an accountant for a big company, he used to work as an accountant at Ford. He told me that Ford wanted to get into the minivan market, so they called up Honda and asked if they could buy the name of this atv go-kart hybrid called the odyssey...Honda told them no, the names of our legacy products are not for sale, and released the Honda odyssey minivan the following year

[@chopperh4090]

More of this!!!! I would watch you two talk about almost anything! Great video please give us more of you two!!!!!

[@JadeGeminiM390]

We need this more!!! More podcasts and videos please god!

[@dougmanter8002]

Thanks, guys. I have to go spend some time with the chamfers on my Chaves Ultramar. But, talk about hot spots!

[@rson451]

I’ve not read the comments, but I’m sure I’m not alone in begging for more of this. You guys have such great chemistry and it’s always a wonderful and educational conversation. Thank you for sharing your insight with us all.

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you for tuning and and supporting! It makes it all possible👊

[@zachstuff]

Great to see the boys back together!! Also of course you dive into the history on Ben's new design and give a little history lesson! Have a great week! #DSKFS

[@EpicSnuggleBunny]

Not what the internet deserved, but certainly what it needed. Great work guys!

[@benbanters]

Thanks Auston. Means a lot coming from you.

[@zacinthewild]

What Ben said!😁👊

[@DailyDrivenBikes_1]

It's awesome to see Ben again, whaat is up guys. Lol and upgrading and customizing knives it's fun 😄 and everyone needs a mermaid 🧜‍♀️ in their knife collection.

[@zacinthewild]

He is the best!

[@DailyDrivenBikes_1]

I have a flytainium hardware kit coming for one of my paramilitary 2s.

[@danielwendell542]

Absolutely a joy to see you two sitting and talking knives. Love it!

[@ivanpedroni9047]

Hey guys, those were very cool topics of conversation! I'm a product designer by trade (although I work in experience design nowadays and have long abandoned physical design) and I was pleased you did such great research in the topic, based it on actual design experiences you guys had and presented it in an easy to understand manner, bravo! I think a good talking point about clones, replicas and illegal dupes can be the dollar-based pricing point for very expensive knives. This conversation goes through buying locally and supporting local shops, the actual benefits of getting a "real" grail and how far they can stretch price-wise before they begin to falter (read: maker gets too greedy or item starts to feel collectible only), and how export value of american made knives is far too entrenched into the dollar market that it fuels the copy market that, honestly, can sometimes be so close to original these days the argument about price stretch becomes very, very real, even if you get paid in dollars. Anyway, I'd love to hear your opinions on it, Zac and Ben, as these philosophical pieces are very entertaining and enriching!

[@jamesmaggio7560]

Great video guys! Nice to see yous together again❗️

[@jackb6989]

I miss the weekly videos with you two but I'm super glad with the career paths ya'll have chosen because it's bettered everyone

[@jackjackson811]

You two introduced me to knives when I was in law school. Huge fan and so glad you two are doing so well.

[@rooftopnegotiator3562]

It is SOOOO AWESOME to see you two together again, you should do this ALOT!

[@zacinthewild]

💪💪

[@ryejack]

I've noticed on top of small similarities in knife designs, people also get stuck on color. For example, I feel like nearly every knife that has blue FRN or G10 scales gets compared to base model blue Bugout. When you look beyond the color, most of those knives don't look anything like the Bugout. I read those comparisons in online comments all the time and I don't understand how people don't see the differences. Edit: Also, I love the interactions with you and the old BHQ crew. It's obvious you're all good friends and have a lot of fun together. It shows through in these videos and they're a joy for us knife nerds to watch. Thanks for making the video and keep 'em coming! Cheers!

[@knifenerd1776]

It’s so good to see you together again 🥰. I think if you 2 did a bi-monthly or monthly show , you would have tons of viewers. IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME !!!

[@joemoores1847]

The reunion video out of nowhere! So good to see you two back together, the dynamic between you two is amazing. When I saw the thumbnail I thought KZbin was starting to show me old Blade HQ videos randomly but when I saw it was only just posted I immediately watched! My clone story is from back when I worked retail. I used to break down a lot of boxes when receiving deliveries, Whenever the annual stocktake came around I would go and buy a new knife. One year I picked up one that was a little smaller than my normal carry and felt durable and good in the hand, along with being cheap because I worked retail. It turned out to be a Sanrenmu 7023 LUI-SH which is their clone of the Buck 327 Nobleman. I only learnt what it was because I carried it for a couple of years. It was so nice to carry that I was worried I'd lose it and never find another one, so I researched what it was and bought another one as a spare (two is one..). I didn't realise it was a clone until much later when I was browsing Buck's website. I left the Sanrenmu in a friend's tent over the Easter weekend this year, I'd been carrying it just about every day since I bought it back in 2011. Sanrenmu definitely lean into the 'copy' side of being a clone but are at least not one of those companies that are trying to make a poor-quality fake/knockoff. Their business model of using other name-brand knife shapes and changing the specifics of the designs is plagiarism but the fact that I had one last over a decade at least shows there is maybe a place for clone companies (but not fakes) in the knife world. If you're going to test a few clones I recommend adding that one in to your tests. I'm sure I might get my knife back when I run into my friend at next Easters camping but it was $30 and I'm not crying over it because I already had the spare ..that I bought 8 years ago.. In the meantime, I'll be pulling the trigger on that Nobleman.

[@SuperPeleke]

What a dose of nostalgia. Thanks for doing this, brings back memories!

[@Mo.89.]

This video was so great, great to have you guys back at the desk together!

[@benjaminhosaflook]

This was amazing… please do this more frequently!!! This was the absolute best duo on BHQ, this is what we miss!!! Thanks guys!!!

[@zacinthewild]

Thank you!🤘

[@InconvenientKingdom]

You guys go together like peanut butter and jelly! So good to see the band back together! I hope this is a long tour!

[@zacinthewild]

I think we could do a few more for sure🤘

[@My_kind_of_knife]

This is the video we all needed. Maybe not the video we deserve but I’m so happy we are here!!

[@Shiroiokami947]

Awesome video. I especially loved how you two discuss the intellectual concepts of "convergent" and "divergent" design. In general, it sounds like a form of evolution, especially if you stretch this back to the stone age of cutting tools to modern day knife designs. The principles of "Form" and "Function" are definitely the driving force behind tool designing.